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  • Operator

  • Good day, and welcome everyone to the Lockheed Martin First Quarter 2017 Earnings Results Conference Call.

  • Today's call is being recorded.

  • At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Greg Gardner, Vice President of Investor Relations.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • Greg Gardner - VP of IR

  • Thank you, Karen, and good morning.

  • I'd like to welcome everyone to our first quarter 2017 earnings conference call.

  • Joining me today on the call are Marillyn Hewson, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Bruce Tanner, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

  • Statements made in today's call that are not historical fact are considered forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal securities law.

  • Actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements.

  • Please see today's press release and our SEC filings for a description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements.

  • We have posted charts on our website today that we plan to address during the call to supplement our comments.

  • Please access our website at www.lockheedmartin.com and click on the Investor Relations link to view and follow the charts.

  • With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Marillyn.

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Thanks, Greg.

  • Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today.

  • We are pleased to have you with us to review our first quarter results.

  • As today's release detailed, we had a solid quarter operationally and financially, with strong top line growth and outstanding cash generation.

  • I would like to take this opportunity to thank our team for their continuing efforts as we focus the corporation on growth, successfully delivering solutions to customers and value to stockholders.

  • While Bruce will cover the financial results in detail a little later, I wanted to touch on several highlights for this quarter.

  • First, our operating profit and earnings per share were negatively impacted by 2 earnings adjustments that I will comment on in a minute.

  • Our EPS of $2.61 equaled that of last year.

  • However, our EPS would have been $3 per share without these adjustments.

  • Second, our cash from operations was strong in the quarter, and we increased our outlook for the year.

  • And lastly, we returned over $1 billion to stockholders in the form of dividends and stock repurchases.

  • I'd like to take a moment to comment on the 2 earnings adjustments that occurred this quarter, which caused an unanticipated negative impact to operating profit and EPS.

  • The first was a charge associated with an international C4I contract to produce the world's first end-to-end integrated air and missile defense system.

  • Our solution to date has proven to be less mature than needed for this highly complex effort, and we are working with the customer to fulfill their requirements.

  • We do believe, however, that once completed, this system has the potential to bring these uniquely integrated capabilities to other customers around the world.

  • The second item is a noncash impairment charge related to an international joint venture in which we participate.

  • During the first quarter, the venture, in which we own a minority interest, determined that reduced business prospects required it to impair certain assets.

  • As a consequence, we recorded our proportionate share, and this resulted in the other charge you saw in our earnings release today.

  • Finally, I am pleased to report that during the first quarter, we were able to arrive at an overall economic agreement for F-35 LRIP's 9 through 11 that allowed us to accept unilateral pricing for LRIP 9, complete negotiations for LRIP 10 and establish cash payment terms for all 3 lots that were improvements over previous positions.

  • It was the overall bundling of economic considerations and resulting improved cash terms that enabled us to increase our cash outlook for the year that you saw in our earnings release.

  • We will continue our strong emphasis on growth, cash generation and shareholder-friendly actions as our business areas continue to provide products and services that are in great demand by our customers.

  • Before discussing operational highlights from our business areas this quarter, I'd like to outline the status of DoD budgets.

  • At this time, government funding remains limited by the continuing resolution that is set to expire on April 28.

  • As you know, the continuing resolution, or CR, limits funding to prior year's levels and prohibits new programs from starting.

  • Discussions are under way to extend the CR as Congress continues to debate the regular appropriations bills.

  • We are hopeful that these discussions result in an approved FY '17 defense appropriations act as we feel a further lack of budget clarity would have longer-term consequences for our armed forces and our industry, and we continue to urge our country's leadership to reach an agreement.

  • There are, however, several encouraging indications that our nation's leaders are aligned with the need for a focus on defense funding.

  • First, the House recently passed the FY 2017 appropriations bill, and it is currently residing with the Senate.

  • This bill, which is in compliance with the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, also supports vital equipment procurement, with increased spending called out for BLACK HAWK helicopters as well as additional F-35s.

  • Similarly, we are pleased to see President Trump's 2017 supplemental defense appropriation submission and the administration's initial FY '18 budget outline, or skinny budget, both request funds in excess of the Budget Control Act caps.

  • Last month, I attended the Munich Security Conference, where well-respected leaders from the U.S. and participating countries echoed the theme that the international security environment has become increasingly more volatile.

  • Recent events around the world have only served to confirm this sentiment.

  • We as a nation need to recognize these threats and provide our military leaders relief from current budgetary constraints and allow them to address the challenges they face in defense of our country and our citizens.

  • We remain hopeful that progress will continue to be made in this area and upcoming legislation will include the increases necessary to continue to equip and maintain our fighting forces.

  • Moving to operations.

  • The quarter contained multiple mission success events, and I'd like to feature each -- one each from our Aeronautics, Missiles and Fire Control and Rotary and Mission Systems business areas.

  • As some of you may know, this past February, the U.S. Air Force held their premier air combat exercise, Red Flag, at Nellis Air Force Base outside Las Vegas, Nevada.

  • This year's training event featured for the first time the F-35A conventional takeoff and landing, or CTOL, variant, which was placed into service following its successful initial operating capability declaration in August of 2016.

  • After flying over 207 sorties, the fleet of 13 F-35A jets posted an impressive success rate of 20 to 1 against the highest-level threats known in the simulated contested environment.

  • Just as importantly, the aircraft's stealth capability and electronic warfare suite allowed it to eliminate ground-based surface-to-air missile installations, effectively securing the battle space and providing unparalleled situational awareness.

  • In addition, the F-35 flew alongside the F-22 Raptor and joint and coalition forces, including participants from the Royal Australian Air Force and the United Kingdom's RAF, demonstrating the important interoperability this fifth-generation platform provides.

  • Lastly and just as significantly, the CTOL jet excelled in the maintenance aspect of the exercise.

  • The F-35 and its Autonomic Logistics Information System, or ALIS, proved to be a highly reliable weapons system, achieving a mission-capable rate well above 90% and far surpassing legacy aircraft averages of 70% to 85% availability during the high ops simple environment of Red Flag, a design quality that has been recognized by users as a true differentiator of this product.

  • We believe the success of this event continues to highlight the unprecedented abilities of the F-35, and we are proud to produce the most capable and reliable aircraft in the world.

  • Turning to our Missiles and Fire Control business area.

  • I'd like to highlight a noteworthy milestone that occurred this quarter.

  • Last month, we were honored to have our long-range antiship missile, or LRASM, selected as the Aviation Week Laureate Award winner in the defense category for its technical achievements in meeting an urgent operational need of our war fighters.

  • LRASM is a precision-guided antiship standoff missile based on the extended range version of our Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile, or JASSM-ER variant.

  • LRASM is currently being developed and integrated for operational capability on Navy and Air Force platforms.

  • Also, in collaboration with our Rotary and Mission Systems business area and their vertical launch system technology, our Missiles and Fire Control team initiated development with our own investment funding of an innovative surface launch solution that can be deployed from ships at sea, providing the U.S. Navy with new anti-surface warfare capability as part of their distributed lethality concept.

  • We were pleased with this award recognition and with our ability to continue to bring our company's capabilities and collaboration to bear for our customers and war fighters.

  • Finally, just a few weeks ago, in our Rotary and Mission Systems business area, our Sikorsky CH-53K King Stallion heavy-lift helicopter received an affirmative Milestone C decision from the Defense Acquisition Board and will now enter the low-rate initial production phase of the program.

  • This Milestone C decision comes less than 18 months after the CH-53K made its first flight, a remarkable accomplishment for this aircraft with its unmatched payload capability and modern avionics.

  • I'll now turn the call over to Bruce to review our first quarter financial performance in more detail, and then we'll open up the line for your questions.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Thanks, Marillyn.

  • Good morning, everyone.

  • As I highlight our key financial accomplishments, please follow along with the web charts that we included with our earnings release today.

  • Let's begin with Chart 3 and an overview of our results for the quarter.

  • We had mixed results as we began 2017.

  • As expected, we had strong sales growth across the portfolio along with outstanding cash generation in the quarter, and we continued to implement the cash deployment actions that our stockholders are used to seeing.

  • On the other hand, our operating profit in the quarter was impacted by 2 negative events that detracted from what otherwise would have been a strong earnings quarter.

  • Based on these results, we've updated our outlook for the year to reflect higher sales and cash from operations and slightly lower segment operating profit and earnings per share.

  • We'll elaborate on all of these items as we progress through the next few charts.

  • On Chart 4, we compare our sales and earnings per share in the first quarter of this year with last year's results.

  • Sales were about 7% higher this quarter compared with last year, with each of the 4 business areas showing growth over last year's results.

  • Aeronautics and Space Systems led the growth, with Aeronautics driven by F-35 production and sustainment, which more than offset one fewer aircraft delivery in the quarter for both the C-130 and C-5 programs.

  • Space Systems growth was driven by the inclusion of AWE sales this quarter compared with none in the first quarter of last year.

  • Both Rotary and Mission Systems and Missiles and Fire Control grew at low single-digit rates in the quarter.

  • Earnings per share of $2.61 was consistent with our results from a year ago, but this quarter's results included $0.39 of charges associated with our revised estimate to complete the C4I contract and the joint venture impairment.

  • These 2 items offset strong performance by Space Systems in the quarter, along with higher earnings in Aeronautics due to the continued increase in F-35 activity.

  • Turning to Chart 5. We'll discuss the cash returned to our shareholders in the quarter.

  • Subtracting our capital expenditure level from the $1.7 billion from cash from operations in the quarter, our free cash flow was $1.5 billion.

  • We returned just over $1 billion of cash to our stockholders in the quarter or 70% of our free cash flow, and this was fairly evenly split between share repurchases and dividends.

  • So we're right on track to -- for the full year cash deployment goals we discussed last quarter.

  • On Chart 6, we'll provide our updated outlook for 2017.

  • We're increasing our sales outlook by $100 million based on higher expectations for Space Systems for the rest of this year.

  • Our segment operating profit outlook has several moving pieces that net to a $30 million reduction from our previous guidance.

  • We are lowering RMS's outlook by $90 million with a $120 million C4I charge, partially offset by $30 million of improved performance in other parts of the portfolio.

  • We're increasing our outlook for Aeronautics by $35 million and Space Systems by $25 million for the year, with the Aeronautics increase driven by performance improvements in a number of programs and the Space Systems increase driven mostly by higher expected equity earnings from ULA.

  • Our other unallocated expense increased by $50 million, mostly driven by the joint venture impairment we discussed.

  • We'll show how all these changes impacted our earnings per share outlook on the next chart.

  • And finally, we are increasing our cash from operations by $300 million to now be greater than or equal to $6 billion.

  • Chart 7 provides a reconciliation of our current and prior earnings per share outlook.

  • As we've already discussed, the C4I charge and the JV impairment are $0.25 and $0.14 negative impacts to our January EPS outlook range of $12.25 to $12.55.

  • Combined, the increased outlooks from Aeronautics and Space Systems, along with a partial offset within RMS, add $90 million to our segment operating profit outlook or about $0.20 to our previous EPS guidance.

  • And a lower tax expense forecast, along with several other minor improvements in our expense outlook, adds another $0.09 to our prior outlook.

  • Netting all these items results in a reduction of $0.10 in our EPS outlook for a new guidance range of $12.15 to $12.45.

  • On Chart 8, we show our revised sales outlook by business area.

  • The $100 million increase in sales is due to the improved outlook we have for Space Systems for the rest of the year.

  • We're maintaining the sales ranges for the other 3 business areas at this time.

  • Chart 9 provides the updated segment operating profit outlook by business area.

  • We decreased our operating profit outlook in total by $30 million.

  • RMS is down $90 million for the C4I contract charge net of other improvements.

  • Aeronautics is $35 million higher, and Space Systems is higher by $25 million.

  • And finally, on Chart 10, we have our summary.

  • Our first quarter performance was mixed, with a couple of earnings charges detracting from strong performance elsewhere in the business.

  • Our cash performance was strong in the quarter, and we expect that performance to carry over to a higher full year outlook than we provided last quarter.

  • We continue to provide significant cash returns to our stockholders, and we're not giving up on trying to overcome our early setbacks and making 2017 a year we can be proud of.

  • With that, we're ready for your questions.

  • Karen?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question for today comes from the line of Doug Harned from Bernstein Research.

  • Douglas Stuart Harned - SVP and Senior Analyst

  • On F-35, 2 things.

  • If you look at the situation -- if we should end up in a continuing resolution, could you talk a little bit about what that might mean for F-35?

  • And then also, you've talked about getting the CTOL version, the price down to about maybe under $80 million by 2021.

  • Can you talk about what that means for the margin trajectory for the program?

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • So Doug, just on the continuing resolution, we wouldn't expect any impact on F-35.

  • That, as you know, is a long-cycle business.

  • The contracts that we're performing on were some time ago.

  • So it -- what the CR affects are not being able to add new contracts at this point, so the program that we're producing on today is not impacted by the CR.

  • I'll let Bruce pick up the question on margins.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Yes.

  • I don't think I've got a whole lot to offer on the CR issue, Doug, other than as you well know, the F-35, I mean, the work that we're performing today was from several fiscal years ago.

  • It takes about 3 years or so to go through the F-35 life cycle from sort of the initial dollar award to the first aircraft delivery.

  • So as Marillyn said, I wouldn't expect to see, especially in 2017, much of an impact, if anything, even should CR be extended.

  • On the CTOL question and getting price below $80 million and its impact on margin, the only way that would impact our margin negatively, Doug, is if we price those contracts assuming that we can get there and obviously don't achieve that, but that's not our expectation.

  • Our expectation is that we'll bring -- be able to bring the cost down to support that price with both the U.S. government customer as well as our international customers and make the profit levels that we've talked about before that we should be making when we get to kind of full rate production on this contract -- or on this program.

  • So I would say, arguably, no impact unless we have performance that we're not expecting to have in that time frame.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of George Shapiro from Shapiro Research.

  • George D. Shapiro - CEO and Managing Partner

  • Yes, Bruce, just to follow up on F-35.

  • The sales increase seems a little low to me, given I thought we're going to get up about $2.5 billion for the year.

  • If you could just comment on that.

  • And then in return for getting better cash terms on the program, did you give up anything in potential margin?

  • Or if not, what did you give up?

  • And then the incremental margin in the quarter of about 17% would imply that there were some pickups in margin rates.

  • If you could talk about which blocks.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Yes.

  • Thanks, George.

  • Good questions.

  • So yes, sales in the first quarter probably were a little lighter than we'd expected.

  • I think it's important that we did say we're going to hold the guidance for the other business areas besides Space Systems.

  • That includes Aeronautics.

  • We still think that the F-35 program is going to have the kind of volume growth throughout the rest of the year that we saw -- or that we forecasted in the guidance that we provided to you last quarter.

  • And just to put it in some perspective, I think I looked at the F-35 program, I think the first quarter is up like 15% over the first quarter of last year.

  • So we're still seeing some pretty significant volume increases, even though we expect the full year to actually be higher than that.

  • So I still think we're going to track to the outlook we provided in first quarter, and I think we'll catch up between now and the end of the year to where we expect it to be when we talked last quarter.

  • The better cash terms that we got there, you should think of that impacting the LRIP 9 contract, LRIP 10 and LRIP 11.

  • And I think your question, specifically, George, was did we give up margins associated with that.

  • You should think of this as sort of bundling of a lot of things that got together.

  • The -- I'll say the biggest thing that -- and this was in Marillyn's comments.

  • The biggest thing that we gave up during this bundling of activities or economic opportunities was the -- we dropped the claim on the LRIP 9 unilateral, and we feel good about that.

  • Frankly, we're glad to have that behind us.

  • And we think that the economic benefits of what we got collectively justify dropping that claim going forward.

  • So we're good, and we're glad to get that behind us.

  • And then lastly, as you usually do, George, you did a good analysis on sort of the incremental margin in the quarter.

  • It is higher.

  • I think you said 17%.

  • I think that's about right.

  • A couple of things happened there, and I think it's all good news, as you might expect there.

  • One of the bigger things that happened is we actually had some step-ups associated with our international Final Assembly and Checkout facilities.

  • Think of this as both the Italian facility as well as the Japanese facility, where we're doing, as by definition, the Final Assembly and Checkout of F-35s at those 2 locations.

  • As you might expect, we started those efforts fairly low.

  • It's not easy to sort of establish from essentially nowhere a program of record and the ability to deliver aircraft in an international location.

  • So we started booking those -- both those locations and the work that we're doing to support those establishments pretty conservatively.

  • It turns out we're doing pretty good on those contracts, and we're actually delivering aircraft out of the Italian FACO and expect to soon on the Japanese FACO as well.

  • So because of that, we were actually able to step up from our previous conservative numbers there, and we feel good about where we are as we sit here today.

  • So thanks.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of Peter Arment from Baird.

  • Peter J. Arment - Senior Research Analyst

  • Bruce, maybe just -- it's kind of a quick one on, first, just a clarification.

  • What should we expect for kind of overall helicopter deliveries for the year?

  • I understand commercial, obviously, is way down, but just kind of expectations around kind of the government deliveries.

  • And then just also just related to -- I guess, LRIP 11 was kind of key for your overall bookings guidance for the year for 2017.

  • Are you still kind of targeting a book-to-bill of near 1 for 2017?

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Yes.

  • Thanks, Peter.

  • So helo deliveries for the year, in total, we're down in the first quarter, as you saw from the earnings release we provided.

  • I think we're down 14 in total between our commercial and the military aircraft in the first quarter.

  • We actually expect that to pick up in the next 3 quarters of the year and actually finish the year just about at the exact same spot that we ended 2016 with in terms of deliveries.

  • As you think of that, it's 180-plus helos in total.

  • We did not deliver -- I don't remember if you asked this asked this question or not, Peter, but just to comment on it.

  • We did not deliver any commercial helos in the first quarter.

  • However, if you look at the outlook for the rest of the year, we do expect to deliver about the same number of commercial helos in 2017 as we did in 2016.

  • Those helos are in the backlog as we sit here today.

  • They're just phased differently in the year than they were last year.

  • And then I think your -- let's see, I think that just bakes into what's the military helicopters or the difference between the total in that 10 aircraft that I just talked about there.

  • And I think your last question was on the LRIP 11 and booking guidelines -- or booking guidance that we provided.

  • We still expect to see -- it's probably going to come in 2 tranches, Peter.

  • Second quarter, we expect to get an undefinitized contractual action, a very large one, associated with LRIP 11.

  • So that will be a pretty significant order, pretty significant increase in book to bill in the quarter.

  • And then we're hoping, and I think the government is hoping as well, to finalize and definitize the LRIP 11 contract by the third quarter of this year.

  • We'll get another little bump associated with that definitization.

  • And we do expect -- as you said in the question, we do expect to finish the year at a greater than 1:1 -- or 1.0, excuse me, book-to-bill ratio.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from the line of Joseph DeNardi from Stifel.

  • Joseph William DeNardi - VP

  • Bruce, I'm wondering if you could just talk about, over the past 5 or 6 months, just at a very high level on F-35, has anything changed on that program?

  • Clearly, there's been a lot of discussion around pricing and contracting.

  • Has anything changed on that program at all over the past few months that would kind of affect your view on margins on that program longer term?

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • No, Peter -- or, Joe, excuse me.

  • I'm trying to think.

  • The only thing that's happened over the last 6 months sort of negatively on the program, we did have this tube issue, which we refer to as the PAO tube issue, that we had to essentially make some modifications into some delivered aircraft to remove that -- remove and replace that tubing as well as change the process going forward.

  • That had a slight hit to the overall performance on the program.

  • But other than that, there's not -- I'm thinking and I'm looking at Marillyn while I'm saying this, Joe.

  • There's nothing structural that I would point to that's different than what's -- what we've been saying for the last couple of years about our ability to sort of structurally grow the program's margins as we head into a full-rate production.

  • So I think the short answer to your question is no.

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • And the PAO tubes issue is behind us now.

  • We have modified all the aircraft.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Yes, yes.

  • Good point.

  • PAO is -- we're done.

  • I think it was done actually at the very beginning of the first quarter.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of Carter Copeland from Barclays.

  • Phillip Carter Copeland - Associate Director and Senior Analyst

  • Just a clarification on the cash.

  • And then I wondered if you could give us just a little bit more color on the booking rate adjustments as I think you called out there were several.

  • Did the LRIP finalization 9 through 11 have any impact upwardly on the multiyear cash profile that you had talked about previously?

  • Or did it impact the phasing?

  • And then on the booking rates, I noticed you -- that you were down clearly of C-5 delivery.

  • And you called out the revenues, but no mention of the profits there.

  • Was there a booking rate adjustment there?

  • And you called out a couple of negative booking rate adjustments on various programs.

  • I wondered if you could just give us some color on that.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Okay.

  • Carter, I'll take a shot at those.

  • So I'd say I think just the overall booking rate adjustments, I think you're asking about the F-35 in particular, and we mentioned a couple.

  • It was -- the biggest change in F-35 were for those 2 international Final Assembly and Checkout facilities I talked about before in Italy and Japan.

  • And as I said, this is where we performed.

  • We had a couple of setbacks with some international programs.

  • Here is some good news on the international side, where we actually did a very good job of establishing those facilities and are doing a good job at those facilities, and that resulted in the book-ups that you saw in the first quarter.

  • LRIP 9 through 11, I think your question relates to the 3-year $15 billion or more objective that we established, our goal that we established last -- I guess it was fourth quarter or first quarter of this year.

  • I think it gives us an opportunity, Carter.

  • It surely gives us greater clarity because we've got better insight into established terms and conditions for the next 3 significant LRIP contracts in a row so we won't have to, if you will, haggle over terms and conditions associated with cash collections.

  • So I'd like to think that gives us greater clarity, and I think it gives us some potential to have some better performance F-35-related relative to what we had expectation-wise in that $15 billion as well.

  • So I think there is the possibility there that you were hinting at in your question.

  • And then on the C-5, we did mention the profit being down for the one aircraft being down.

  • There's no really change in margins whatsoever.

  • And there was, I'll say, an associated earnings reduction associated with the lower sales volume, but margin is exactly the same as it was a year ago.

  • So no change there whatsoever.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of Seth Seifman from JPMorgan.

  • Seth Michael Seifman - Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • I wonder if you could talk a little bit more about Sikorsky and whether you expect to get to a positive contribution on the EBIT line from Sikorsky this year and then whether next year promises to see kind of more meaningful EBIT contribution and if you could size that at all.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Seth, could you go through that one more time?

  • I'm not sure I followed that entirely.

  • Seth Michael Seifman - Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Sure, yes.

  • On Sikorsky, I wonder if you could tell us if you expect to get to a positive EBIT contribution from Sikorsky in '17, and then if we should think about a much more meaningful contribution in '18 on the EBIT line and maybe if you could size that.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Yes, sorry.

  • So the Sikorsky, I think we're really close -- well, let's back up.

  • Sikorsky is always going to have for -- at least for a long period of time, the intangible amortization associated with the purchase accounting, if you will, for that acquisition.

  • So you should think of Sikorsky getting $230 million or so a year, at least for the next few years.

  • And then I think it sort of gradually gets smaller than that, but we'll have that with us for -- I think the period of amortization is something like 15 years.

  • So it's going to be with us a long time.

  • That's going to be a drag there.

  • As we look at 2017, I think Sikorsky is actually going to be a positive for us in terms of absolute EBIT dollars even with that drag.

  • It's going to get a little, I'll say, messier going forward because we've actually combined some things in with Sikorsky from the heritage Lockheed Martin performance.

  • So for instance, we -- several of you have been to our facilities in Owego, New York, where we do -- or have done historically a lot of helicopter modification programs and helicopter enhancement programs, including the Navy's -- U.S. Navy's Romeo and Sierra sort of submarine-hunting helicopter and the mission packages that go with that.

  • We've combined that together with what we are now referring to as Sikorsky, at least internally.

  • And if you add that together with the piece that came from Owego, it's a strong positive to us in the year.

  • But just focusing on Sikorsky going forward into 2018, we should see an uptick there as we continue to sort of wean our away from the restructuring charges and some of the implementation costs that we have to -- in order to attain the savings that we expect to see.

  • And we do expect to see those saving start to materialize in pretty good fashion starting in 2018.

  • So that will be our expectation.

  • I think more importantly, as we'd talked about in the past, 2018's cash flow is where we're expecting to see some pretty good-sized increases, and that's predominantly because of working off a lot of the development programs and especially, things like the Canadian Maritime Helicopter Program, where we were actually at a loss position when we acquired that business.

  • And as we start to get out of the CMH -- or not the CMHP, the 53K developments and the helicopters and actually start converting these into production contracts, we should start seeing much stronger cash flows starting in 2018 to accompany the increase in earnings that I just talked about.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of Pete Skibitski from Drexel Hamilton.

  • Peter John Skibitski - Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Not sure how to pronounce this, but EDGE-T maybe.

  • Can you give us a sense of how much risk remains on that program and maybe also the timing of some of the key risk retirement milestones?

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Yes, Pete, I'll take a shot at that.

  • So it's EDGE-T.

  • I know it well.

  • Let me just give you a little bit of background.

  • Maybe just I think it'd be helpful and not just with where we've got to go in the future but maybe how we got here.

  • And I think as I look at this, what's sort of unusual about this is this is all a fair fixed-price contract that includes a pretty substantial amount of developmental work.

  • That's not something that we generally sign up for.

  • I mean, typically, in a perfect world, we like to deliver sort of products off our production lines internationally.

  • On this one, we actually chose to do some development.

  • And almost by definition, when you do that in the international environment, you're going to do it on a fixed-price basis.

  • Frankly, that's one of the reasons why we like to do most of the development with the U.S. government under a cost-reimbursable contract as opposed to a development contract -- as opposed to fixed-price, excuse me.

  • We knew going in this would be a challenge to perform this work, but we had developed capabilities under our own IRAD dollars that we thought would make this essentially an off-the-shelf solution, and we sort of priced it accordingly.

  • And as it turns out, as we got into the implementation of this, the solution ended up being far less robust than what was needed, and I'll say the implementation environment was more complex than we expected.

  • And there was also some evolving customer requirements and sort of some give-and-take that occurred the longer the implementation took to deploy.

  • So all those things led us to where we are today.

  • Where we sit today, we think we have this sized appropriately.

  • The milestones that you talked about going forward, we -- and probably what -- we won't talk about those milestones because they're not necessarily large enough in the total scheme of things of Lockheed Martin to mention.

  • But amongst them is finalizing this off-the-shelf system and putting it in place in-country.

  • We think we're about there with doing that, and we think it now has the capabilities that were promised in the contract.

  • Now it gets down to sort of the implementing and connecting a whole bunch of systems in-country to this sort of command and control structure and making sure they all talk to each other and work with each other.

  • There's probably another 2 years, I'm going to guess, Pete, worth of work to do, and we'll surely keep you apprised as we go through the next few quarters if there's any issues there.

  • But we think we have this thing sized about right, as we said -- as I said earlier.

  • Now this is unfortunately not the first charge that we've taken on this contract.

  • We took some charges throughout.

  • I think the last -- the biggest one was in 2015, but we sort of took some incremental charge in 2016.

  • But we think we've sized this thing about right.

  • The reason this was important to us, Pete, was -- and the reason we took the chance to do an international program with fixed-price development is, as Marillyn said in her opening remarks, no one has ever done this before.

  • I mean, this -- and to quote some people, this is hard work.

  • But the good news is if we do this hard work, there's a lot of international customers who would like to have this capability for their own integrated air missile defense systems, and we think there's even potentially a play to come back within the U.S. government for this capability as well.

  • So it's pretty unique in its capabilities, but it was pretty difficult to do.

  • And we're hoping there's a tail of business that comes along with our successful completion of this contract.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of David Strauss from UBS.

  • David Egon Strauss - MD and Senior Research Analyst

  • Bruce, Missiles and Fire Control.

  • Can you touch on the program mix and margin profile there?

  • I think margins have been coming down in that business for several years now.

  • I think you've primarily cited the mix of business within that.

  • Can you talk about when you see that mix kind of bottoming out in the margin profile from here?

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Sure, David.

  • So Missile and Fire Control, we -- I probably have sounded like a broken record on this, but there's a lot of things going on.

  • And we've talked about them in the past, but I'll probably repeat myself here a little bit.

  • We had a number of some larger programs, especially sort of the consumable OCO-type contracts, where we had Hellfires and Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems, ATACMS missiles and the like, where we did -- time after time, we'd get continual orders on top of previous orders, and we did well on those contracts.

  • The -- sort of the volume aspects of that helped us a lot because there was quick need for those products, and they did well for us.

  • We also completed a couple of larger programs relative to PAC-3s, a couple of larger contracts that we also performed better than what we'd negotiated on.

  • And all this sort of culminated at the end of 2015, middle of 2016 where we had to start renegotiating those contracts over.

  • And basically, you snap a new line in the sand and you start off with your historical good performance, and you've got to sort of achieve that again to make those sorts of margins.

  • So we had a bit of a reset, if you will, on new business where we'd done previously better than negotiated.

  • And on the new business, we started off booking essentially at the negotiated amount.

  • So that's part of it.

  • The other part is we have made some strategic bids in Missiles and Fire Control.

  • And fortunately, we've been successful on a couple of those bids.

  • Primary amongst that was the JAGM missile, the Joint Air-to-Ground Missile, which is essentially the replacement long term for the Hellfire missile.

  • We did go into that, as you might expect, pricing it as if it was a strategic opportunity.

  • We won that, but what that says is during the development parts of that program, its margin is much, much lower than what we'd historically see at Missiles and Fire Control.

  • There's a couple of other opportunities and development programs, not all of which we can talk about, that we either are performing on or we expect to and hope to win on that are also sort of drags to our historical level of higher margins on Missiles and Fire Control.

  • And frankly, if we win those and perform on them as we expect, I would not expect to see huge improvements in the Missiles and Fire Control margins over the next couple of years.

  • And that would be a good thing because the volume that we would have on that new business will be the type of business that will support us for literally decades to come.

  • So it's worth sort of the strategic investments and the strategic bids that we put forward, but it does come at the expense of historically high margins.

  • Having said that, I'm very pleased with Missile and Fire Control.

  • It's not like they're our problem child whatsoever.

  • We're still looking at just south of, what, 15% margins.

  • So it's a highly, highly performing business, highest margin within the corporation still, and we would expect that to be the case going forward.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of Jason Gursky from Citi.

  • Jason Michael Gursky - Director and Senior Analyst

  • Marillyn, I wonder if you would spend a few minutes on talking about the opportunity sets in front of your here over the next 12 to, say, 18 months.

  • I know we've got things like T-X Trainer and JSTARS.

  • And a little bit further out, there's maybe future vertical lift here on the domestic side.

  • And then maybe some of the international opportunities, MEADS, FAADs, Aegis, in the European, Middle East and Asian areas.

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Sure, Jason.

  • Thanks for the question.

  • Just starting off with F-35.

  • If you just look at the ramp-up on that program, it's very significant over the next few years.

  • And when we get to full rate production, we'll probably be delivering roughly 200 aircraft a year.

  • So that's a big opportunity.

  • The next 5 years, we think about 50% of the orders will be in the international marketplace.

  • We're continuing to see additional interest from a lot of countries around the F-35 that are currently not in the program of record.

  • So we expect that over the next few to several years that we'll continue to see additional countries that will become buyers of the F-35.

  • In the area of missile defense, that continues to be a great demand for us internationally.

  • You mentioned Aegis and PAC-3.

  • Also, FAAD is another one that we expect.

  • Areas like in the Middle East, we expect that they're -- we'll continue to see opportunities.

  • You've probably seen it.

  • There was a notification on Qatar, and we think some other countries in that region will also be considering FAAD as we go forward.

  • And then beyond that, Aegis, as we've sold some systems on Aegis, we will continue to see opportunities for -- potentially for Aegis Ashore, which is the land-based Aegis.

  • And we'll continue to sell PAC-3s.

  • So on the missile defense arena, PAC-3 MSE, the extended range, we expect will continue to see strong demand.

  • And then there's MEADS.

  • Germany has already selected MEADS, the Medium Extended Air Defense System, and we're moving forward on that.

  • We expect to get under way this year with a contract with them -- or late this year.

  • And we'll see other countries watch that space.

  • We've had interest from Poland and others.

  • And then continuing on in the international front, F-16, as you probably have seen, there's been an informal Congressional notification for selling F-16s to Bahrain 19 or 20 aircraft.

  • And we continue to be looking at the opportunity for selling F-16s to India, which could be a much bigger buy by India over time as they move through their process.

  • So -- and then F-16 upgrades, we're doing from South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and others that have made a selection on that.

  • We think with that large fleet that's out there that we'll continue to see other countries that will look at F-16 upgrades.

  • So on the aircraft front and missile defense front, continued operation -- continued opportunities.

  • And beyond that, I mentioned LRASM in my discussion on the front end with my opening remarks.

  • We think there's a big opportunity for LRASM for the U.S. government as we move forward.

  • We've sold JASSMs to other countries, so LRASM even could be a potential for international opportunities.

  • T-X and JSTARS are 2 bids that -- this year that we're participating in.

  • We think we have very strong offering on T-X, the next trainer replacing the T-38.

  • That capability we're offering is the T-50A.

  • It's a very mature program that is low-risk, and we can accelerate the schedule and meet the needs of the Air Force up to 2 years earlier than probably what a clean sheet design can do or maybe more.

  • So we're very much ready with our offering on that.

  • We expect to be very competitive in that opportunity.

  • At JSTARS, we've got a great team pulled together on JSTARS as well, and we're bidding on that opportunity.

  • Future vertical lift is a little further out.

  • But of course, we're in the demonstration phase and the technical demonstration in that and are teaming on that capability, so we expect to be in a good position for future vertical lift as we go forward.

  • And then the ground-based strategic deterrent, we will participate in that competition, and we think we have a strong offering and LRSO.

  • So we are engaged in not only our current portfolio that we believe is very strong and there's a strong demand for, but we are pursuing some big opportunities in other areas.

  • And I didn't mention our Space Systems area, but commercial satellites and the satellites for the military as we continue to grow that portfolio as well.

  • So I think I've kind of walked around the system.

  • I did mention the C-130.

  • I mean, there continues to be interest in the C-130 in countries like India and Saudi Arabia and France and Germany.

  • And we hope to -- we are currently on a multiyear with the U.S. government, and we would expect them to continue to purchase C-130s going forward.

  • And I think that -- Bruce, any others maybe you can add to that?

  • I've tried to walk around the portfolio.

  • We have a very broad portfolio, as you all know, and a very strong portfolio.

  • So we're really pleased with how well it's supported in the current budget and what's in the budget deliberations going forward and -- for the U.S. government.

  • But around the world, we've got great opportunities internationally.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Yes.

  • I think you covered it.

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Okay.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of Rich Safran from Buckingham Research.

  • Richard Tobie Safran - Research Analyst

  • Marillyn, maybe I'll follow up a little bit more on the F-16 comments you were just making here.

  • Just a couple of items here -- or a few items here on that.

  • So I saw you moving the line out of Fort Worth to Greenville.

  • I thought that was an interesting decision considering you only have a few remaining in backlog.

  • So what does it mean that you're moving the line?

  • You mentioned Bahrain as a possible order here.

  • Is that something you could see happen this year?

  • Because I think you don't have enough in backlog, I think, to finish the year, if I'm correct about that.

  • And then also, it seems that the Air Force is interested in extending the life of the F-16, some kind of SLEP program.

  • And maybe you could discuss the implications of that and what your expectations are there.

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Sure.

  • Thanks, Rich.

  • Well, first off, yes, we are moving the line to Greenville, and we'll just give a little background on that.

  • I think we've let you all know that we will be delivering our last F-16s off the line in Fort Worth later this year.

  • And actually, the line will stop for a period of time.

  • It was important for us to continue to look at restarting that line.

  • We know how to do that.

  • We have a robust supply chain that has been able to increase and decrease over the life of the F-16 and deal with changes in quantities, and we're ready to restart that line.

  • The reason we're moving to Greenville is we're ramping up production on the F-35 in Fort Worth.

  • We need the facilities there for what we're doing.

  • Greenville has a great operation that has a strong talent and good facilities there, so it will be a Final Assembly and Checkout facility for the F-16 there.

  • It's just we basically produce the aircraft through our supply chain elements of it, and we will assemble it there and deliver it from Greenville.

  • And we're excited about that.

  • It's -- we've also selected Greenville as our site for producing the final assembly of the T-X, of our trainer opportunity as well, the T-50A.

  • So we've demonstrated the capability for doing fighters in that facility.

  • So we're excited about it being the place for the future F-16s.

  • In terms of it being this year, for Bahrain getting an order this year, we feel pretty -- we feel good about it.

  • It's really government to government, so we will have to go through the -- finishing up on the formal congressional notification and get an order under way.

  • And so we look forward to that opportunity.

  • We're very encouraged by that, and we would produce those in Greenville for that reason.

  • In terms of the F-16 SLEP, the Service Life Extension Program, we were pleased to see that it was -- that the F-16 was designated to have an extended useful life.

  • It has been a strong program for us, and so we continue, as I said, to do upgrades around the world.

  • So that airframe and its capability has demonstrated it can fly many more hours, and that will open the opportunity for putting new systems on it, new weapon systems, new mission systems and radars and things of that nature.

  • So we see that as a very positive for that fleet for it to continue to serve our customers, not only the U.S. Air Force, but the customers around the world for many, many years to come.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from the line of Cai Von Rumohr from Cowen and Company.

  • Cai Von Rumohr - MD and Senior Research Analyst

  • Maybe if you could give us a little more color on the JV adjustments you took.

  • And then ULA, I guess, was strong in the quarter.

  • My understanding was it was expected to be down about $150 million from the $3.25 billion last year.

  • What's changed there?

  • And then maybe on the revenue recognition, an accounting change is expected to come next year.

  • Just a quick thought on what that should do.

  • I assume that would be a big plus for the CH-53K.

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • So Cai, maybe I'll take the JV and then let Bruce pick up on the AWE.

  • And Bruce, you can fill anything more than that.

  • The JV itself, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, this is a noncash impairment charge, and we are actually a minority interest in this JV.

  • Back in the mid- to late 2000s, the UAE was looking for U.S. partners that would help them to develop their fixed-wing and rotary wing sustainment capabilities so that they could support their aircraft in-country and look at broadly supporting, beyond the UAE, other countries' aircraft.

  • And we entered in this joint venture in 2010.

  • At the time, we were a 20% owner in it from the Lockheed Martin standpoint.

  • Sikorsky was a 20% owner, and the UAE ended the year at 60%.

  • Of course, when we acquired Sikorsky in 2015, that increased our position.

  • So we are a 40% owner in the joint venture.

  • The joint venture has been successful.

  • It's been a good joint venture.

  • It's got about 4,000 employees, sales of about $1.5 billion a year.

  • It's been very profitable every year with equity earnings that come back to us -- to Sikorsky and now to us, both our share and Sikorsky's share.

  • And it's generated offset credits for us that would satisfy a lot of obligations for us for the programs that we have in-country.

  • So from that standpoint, it's successful.

  • The ambition, though, for that entity is for it to grow regionally and become a sustainment center for the region.

  • And so we -- facilities were built and machinery and equipment procured in order to prepare for growing beyond just the UAE market.

  • And unfortunately, those projections haven't materialized.

  • The fact that oil prices have been lower has not helped matters, but it's been a damper on what the outlook was for it.

  • So the charge basically recognizes the diminished value of those assets and a lower-demand environment.

  • We still have aspirations for that entity and, hopefully, we will see longer term that outlook.

  • But as we looked at it today, the reduced business prospects, the entity determined that they needed to impair certain assets, and so that's what we dealt with.

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • And Cai, I'll try to take a shot at your other 2 questions.

  • ULA, I think your analysis is right on.

  • And you should think about is really just the phasing in the year.

  • We're still expecting that ULA will be about 2/3-or-so of the equity earnings that we'll get from that entity this year versus what we received last year.

  • It just so happens the first quarter was disproportionately higher than it was compared to the first quarter of last year, but we would expect that to come back down to the levels we talked about -- other than the upper that we mentioned in the first quarter, they're going to come down to levels we talked about in the January call.

  • That's still our expectation for ULA.

  • And then lastly, you asked about rev rec, revenue recognition standard that becomes effective January 1, 2018.

  • We're -- I'll speak for myself here, Cai.

  • I'm starting to get insight into sort of rev rec the old way, if you will, and rev rec the new way.

  • Our expectation and what we've disclosed in the Ks and the Qs is that we wouldn't expect to see a large change relative to our sales and or earnings, even though we are going to be changing some contracts that are currently on a delivery-based -- or what we call units-of-delivery-based method of sales recognition to a cost to cost methodology.

  • So that will have some impacts on sort of our opening balance sheet out of the new rev rec approach as well as sort of our opening backlog position.

  • But I wouldn't think the sort of the run rate, if you will, of sales and earnings going forward would be a material difference at all.

  • And that's sort of what we're -- what I'm seeing as I look at the data so far.

  • We'll give you a whole lot more insight into that in the second quarter.

  • And when we give you our third quarter trend information for 2018, my expectation is that we'll be able to give you a better insight as to exactly what we're expecting to see 2018's impact as a result of the rev rec change.

  • But again, I wouldn't expect it to be very large.

  • Operator

  • The final question for today comes from the line of Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank.

  • Myles Alexander Walton - Director and Senior Research Analyst

  • Bruce, I was hoping you could touch on cash flow and a couple of things you brought up in the call.

  • One was the Sikorsky cash flow growth expectation into '18, and the second is the resolution of the F-35, kind of the trajectory there.

  • And I want to put it in context.

  • So you have a $1 billion after-tax pension headwind to operating cash flow in '18 that we know about.

  • Are the 2 things you mentioned, the F-35 and the Sikorsky, enough to give you confidence that you can grow operating cash flow exclusive of the pension after tax?

  • Bruce L. Tanner - CFO and EVP

  • Exclusive of the pension after tax, I think the answer is pretty close.

  • If you take out the planned pension contribution for next year, I think the short answer is yes to that question.

  • We're doing the outlook right now.

  • It's $6 billion for the year, 2017.

  • We'd sort of teed up when we gave the $15 billion 3-year goal of every year at or around $5 billion.

  • So with that $5 billion, I think it's pretty close.

  • It's close enough that that's probably a good challenge for us to try to figure out how to make that happen.

  • Marillyn A. Hewson - Chairman, CEO and President

  • So let me wrap up since that was our last question.

  • I want to conclude the call today, and I'll end by reinforcing our commitment to our strategy of growth in top line sales and strong cash generation while, at the same time, providing our customers with world-class solutions to their continuous challenges and delivering our stockholders long-term value creation.

  • Thank you again for joining us on the call today.

  • We look forward to speaking to you on the next earnings call in July.

  • Karen, that concludes our call today.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference.

  • This does conclude the program, and you may now disconnect.

  • Everyone, have a great day.