新思科技 (SNPS) 2017 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Synopsys earnings conference call for the first quarter of FY17.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Today's call will last one hour.

  • Five minutes prior to the end of the call we will announce the amount of time remaining in the conference.

  • As a reminder, today's call is being recorded.

  • At this time I would like to turn the conference over to Lisa Ewbank, Vice President of Investor Relations.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Lisa Ewbank - VP of IR

  • Thank you, Lori, and good afternoon.

  • With us today are Aart de Geus, Chairman and Co-CEO of Synopsys, and Trac Pham, Chief Financial Officer.

  • Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during the course of this conference call Synopsys will discuss forecasts, targets and other forward-looking statements regarding the Company and its financial results.

  • While these statements represent our best current judgment about future results and performance as of today, our actual results and performance are subject to many risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect.

  • In addition to any risks that we highlight during this call, important factors that may affect our future results are described in our most recent SEC reports and today's earnings press release.

  • We will also refer to non-GAAP financial measures.

  • Reconciliations to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and supplemental financial information can be found in the 8-K, earnings press release and financial supplement that we released earlier today.

  • All of these items, plus the most recent investor presentations, are available on our website at synopsys.com.

  • In addition, the prepared remarks will be posted on the site at the conclusion of the call.

  • With that, I will turn the call over to Aart de Geus.

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • Good afternoon and thank you for joining us.

  • Q1 was an excellent start to the year, as we delivered solid double-digit growth in both revenue and earnings.

  • Revenue was $653 million, notably above our target range.

  • Non-GAAP earnings per share came in at $0.94.

  • We're raising our revenue earnings per share and operating cash flow guidance, reflecting our confidence in our outlook.

  • In addition, we continue to return capital to shareholders with $100 million share repurchase.

  • Trac will discuss the financials in more detail.

  • The market that we serve through our three customer segments are semiconductors, systems and software developers, remains mostly unchanged since last quarter.

  • In semiconductors, analyst predictions are more positive than in past quarters, reflecting the investments going into the early products in the Internet of Things, machine learning, automotive, augmented and virtual reality, networking infrastructure and the continually growing need for more compute power in the cloud.

  • Fundamentally, though, the dynamics have not materially changed, as companies continue to prioritize aggressive adoption of advanced silicone and state-of-the-art design, while being mindful of their need to control costs.

  • The consolidation drive to combine forces in order to better attack certain markets or more effectively utilize resources is likely to continue.

  • Many of these consolidations have worked their way through the system and while they are a headwind, Synopsys has fared well.

  • The technology leadership and completeness of our solutions, combined with unwavering support, has made us a highly-valued partner.

  • In fact, the strength of our design, verification and ID platforms positions us well with customers readying themselves for their next wave of growth.

  • Moving to systems companies, which represent about 40% of our revenue, the intersection of hardware and software is at the core of both their needs and our ability to deliver value.

  • It's hard to overstate the promise and the challenges brought by the new applications that are emerging as the age of SmartEverything is taking shape.

  • Helping our customers de-risk as they bring all the pieces together has now become our joint challenge.

  • This is precisely where Synopsys excels.

  • Our broad portfolio, proficiency and problem-solving experience, reaching from silicon to software, continues to increase in value as the challenges grow more and more multi-dimensional.

  • Our third customer segment, software developers across many industries, is a growing differentiator for Synopsys.

  • The expansion of interconnected devices within software content and complexity, brings with it the need to find security and quality vulnerabilities early in the development process.

  • Fixing issues by sending out a stream of software patches is now untenable with systems that touch human lives, society's infrastructure, all the way to high-value industrial and financial systems.

  • Our growing portfolio of software security and quality products and services is gaining attention in market segments that only a few years ago we would never have touched, ranging from embedded to enterprise.

  • Now to some Q1 product highlights spanning from silicon to software.

  • Through our most advanced design tools we are well known for supporting adoption of 16-, 14-, 10- and 7-nanometer (inaudible) technology.

  • With our advanced lithography and TCAD platform, we're also well engaged in the development and research of 5-, 3- and 2-nanometer nodes.

  • For example we teamed up with IIT Bombay to announce an important extension of our Sentaurus TCAD for FinFET reliability modeling at 7-nanometer, 5-nanometer and below.

  • Meanwhile, adoption of advanced design with our tools continues unabated.

  • Of the 300 FinFET designs completed to date, Synopsys was relied on for more than 95% of those chips.

  • Significantly, 55 of the 56 tape-out of 10 nanometer and below were completed using Synopsys.

  • Overall, our digital design platform which is centered around synthesis, place-and-route and signoff continues to make great strides.

  • First, our leading synthesis franchise around Design Compiler, which benefits from an extraordinarily strong and broad usage base, is seeing a rapid succession of technology advances and run-time improvements, including in its ability to deal with advanced test requirements.

  • Second, our state-of-the-art place-and-route offering around IC Compiler II is benefiting from very rapid adoption, including 19 of the 20 top semiconductor companies, better and better results and solidity by honing the product on more than 250 production designs covering now over 25 different foundry processes.

  • And as a result, we're seeing notable successes in head-to-head benchmarks and customer engagement.

  • And third, the strength of our gold-standard signoff franchise.

  • In addition to continuing drumbeat of technical improvements, the strong correlation between the design and signoff tools is a massive risk reducer for our customers while impacting their time to market.

  • During Q1 for example, we released PrimeTime HyperScale which reduces timing signoff runtime and compute costs by five to 10 times.

  • The adoption is swift as market-leading companies such as Broadcom, Juniper Networks, Mediatech, [Redept teletronics] and Samsung Electronics have already deployed HyperScale in their signoff and takeout flows.

  • The sharing of physical signoff algorithms from IC Validator natively inside IC Compiler II also greatly improved signoff time as it minimizes physical design violations during instead of after place-and-route.

  • In customer analog design, adoption of Custom Compiler is steadily progressing.

  • In Q1 a market-leading mobile [fabless] company deployed Customer Compiler on multiple 7-nanometer designs.

  • While the large semiconductor IBM is replacing our competition for the design of a growing number of custom IT blocks.

  • Now to verification, where our platform vision and technology execution have yielded excellent business and market share growth.

  • Verification is a showcase of our broadest Synopsys silicon-to-software vision.

  • Our focus is squarely on the greatest enabler of the IoT SmartEverything age, the intersection of hardware and software verification.

  • The center of our offering is our VCS Simulator franchise.

  • The product is not only doing well business-wise but also delivering great new technology advances.

  • During the quarter we announced a roll-out of massive parallelism natively integrated in the next release of VCS.

  • Advance customer partners are already experiencing substantial performance boosts, as this technology further cements our commitment to best-in-class verification products.

  • Our hardware-based ZeBu, emulation and HAPS prototyping had another strong quarter as well.

  • The combination of increasing customer demand and our ability to deliver the fastest solution on the market today gives us the confidence that our verification business will do very well again this year.

  • On to our IP products, where we continue to deliver strong results and gain customer recognition.

  • Strength was across the board with notable wins in 7-nanometer and continued momentum in IoT.

  • A major Chinese customer selected Synopsys for a wide range of IP for their 7-nanometer designs.

  • TSMC certified our AI-optimized USB 2.0 solution for IoT for its 40-nanometer ultra-low-power process.

  • The ARC SEM security processor won the Linley Group's Best Processor IP Award for 2016 based on power, performance, efficiency, as well as unique security features.

  • Our IP group is growing well.

  • This is the result of more than [15] years of investments and hard work yielding an unmatched portfolio of high-quality trustworthy IP products.

  • These characteristics are particularly important in the expanding automotive space, a key focus segment for Synopsys, touching our IP, EDA and software security portfolios.

  • Our customer base in automotive continues to widen, including new semiconductor companies as well as OEMs and noted Tier I suppliers.

  • In Q1 a high-profile automotive semiconductor company adopted our test solution for use in mixed-signal automotive IC to enable ISO 26262 compliance.

  • Their IPs are for safety-critical systems and therefore require in-system and power-on self tests to comply with the standard.

  • Key elements of our EDA, IP and software integrity portfolio are now certified for the most stringent level of automotive safety measures defined by the ISO 26262 standard.

  • Which naturally leads me to our software integrity group.

  • Succinctly stated, our focus is to provide products and services to build security and quality into the software development lifecycle and across the entire cyber supply chain.

  • Clearly security challenges are only increasing.

  • But so is the recognition of finding and fixing security vulnerabilities must be addressed vigorously while developing the software.

  • That means high-quality code checking long before the software gets deployed is a must.

  • For example, Old LIne Trust Alliance, a well-known industry organization, states that 100% of recently reported IoT vulnerabilities could have been easily avoided if manufacturers and developers took security and privacy measures into account throughout the development process.

  • Our strategy is to first broaden and deploy our software signoff platform.

  • Second, accelerate our penetration of key verticals in both embedded and enterprises spaces.

  • Third, drive demand creation with services, ecosystem partners and certification projects.

  • While it's early, we are making great progress.

  • Eight of the top-10 software companies in the world are now Synopsys customers.

  • So are seven of the top-10 automotive OEMs.

  • And illustrating the TAM-broadening potential for Synopsys, so are 16 of the top-20 commercial banks in the world.

  • Having greatly tuned our channel in FY2016, we continue to invest in a promising business.

  • In Q1 we launched a new version of our static analysis tool with enhanced security for mobile and web applications.

  • It's designed to help provide enterprise-level security analysis and broad programming language support necessary to address today's many evolving application security demands.

  • In Q1 we further broadened our language coverage by adding support for Fortran through a small acquisition.

  • While arguably an older language, it's a very important legacy component in many oil and energy systems.

  • And of course in Q1 we closed the acquisition of Cigital and Codiscope, a pivotal move to expand our market through a services arm that lets us reach and engage with high-level decision-makers and a broad set of customers.

  • We see Synopsys and Cigital as an ideal combination.

  • Synopsys leads with best-in-class products, Cigital with high-expertise services.

  • Synopsys has a very strong presence in the embedded space, including automotive, medical devices and IoT.

  • Cigital is a leader in serving enterprise customers with particular strength in financial services.

  • Synopsys is eminently engineering-centric while Cigital brings a demand-creation element with customer touch points early in the security strategy development process.

  • Thus far the integration is proceeding well and we had our first taste of the potential of the combination just this week at RSA, the world's largest security conference, where Synopsys highlighted the most comprehensive software security solution available today.

  • In summary, we exceeded expectations in Q1 for an excellent start to FY17 and we are raising our full-year guidance.

  • We're seeing very good momentum with our EDA platforms, continued strength in our IP portfolio, and good growth in software integrity as we continue to invest and broaden our TAM in this very promising emerging market.

  • Let me now turn the call over to Trac.

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • Thanks, Aart.

  • Good afternoon, everyone.

  • I'm very pleased with our strong start of the year.

  • In Q1 we continued to build our momentum from 2016 as we achieved financial results that exceeded our expectations across all key metrics.

  • We posted double-digit revenue growth and earnings growth, expanded operating margins and generated considerable cash flow.

  • In addition, we returned $100 million to shareholders in the form of buybacks.

  • Based on our excellent Q1 performance and confidence in the rest of the year, we are raising our 2017 outlook for revenue, earnings and cash flow.

  • Now to the numbers.

  • As I talk you through the results and targets, all comparisons will be year over year unless I specify otherwise.

  • Total revenue increased 15% to $653 million with strong results across the entire product portfolio.

  • The upside relative to our target range was due mostly to the timing of hardware sales and IP consulting deliverables.

  • 90% of revenue came from beginning-of-quarter backlog and one customer accounted for more than 10% of revenue.

  • The weighted-average license duration was approximately 2.8 years and we expect the 2017 average to be about three years.

  • Total GAAP costs and expenses were $556 million which includes a restructuring charge of $12 million, part of our plan to align resources to position the Company for long-term growth.

  • Total non-GAAP costs and expenses were $477 million, slightly below our target range.

  • Q1 non-GAAP operating margin was 27%, driven by strong top-line growth and better-than-expected expenses.

  • For the year we expect solid margin expansion over 2016 when the modest dilution from Cigital and Codiscope is excluded.

  • GAAP earnings per share was $0.56.

  • Non-GAAP earnings per share were $0.94, above our target range due to strong operational execution and the timing of hardware and IP revenue.

  • We generated $47 million in operating cash flow even with the outflows from our 2016 annual incentive compensation payments.

  • Collections were very strong, reflecting some large payments that came in earlier than expected.

  • We are raising our 2017 target to a range of $500 million to $520 million.

  • We ended the quarter with cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments of $966 million, with 16% onshore and total debt of $320 million.

  • In Q1 we returned $100 million to shareholders through our stock buyback program.

  • In 2017 we intend to slightly reduce share count and we have $335 million remaining on our current authorization.

  • Now to the quarter and FY17 guidance.

  • For Q2 the targets are revenue between $665 million and $680 million.

  • Total GAAP costs and expenses between $560 million and $579 million.

  • Total non-GAAP costs and expenses between $507 million and $517 million.

  • Other income between negative $1 million and $1 million.

  • Our non-GAAP normalized tax rate of 19%.

  • Outstanding shares between 152 million and 155 million.

  • GAAP earnings of $0.51 to $0.59 per share.

  • Non-GAAP earnings of $0.85 to $0.88 per share.

  • For 2017 revenue of $2.58 billion to $2.61 billion, a growth rate of 6.5% to 8%.

  • Other income between $2 million and $6 million.

  • A non-GAAP normalized tax rate of 19%.

  • Outstanding shares of between 152 million and 155 million.

  • GAAP earnings of $2.01 to $2.12 per share.

  • We're raising the midpoint of our non-GAAP earnings target range by $0.04 to $3.21 to $3.26 per share.

  • Capital expenditures of about $100 million and cash flow from operations of $500 million to $520 million.

  • As we look to the remainder of 2017, we now expect total revenue to be skewed to the first half of the year due to the timing of hardware and other deliverables.

  • As a result, non-GAAP earnings per share will be higher in the first half.

  • Investors should expect continued quarterly variability in revenue due to the growth of our hardware business and it's up-front revenue recognition.

  • In summary, in Q1 we delivered double-digit growth in revenue and earnings and generated solid cash flow.

  • Based on our excellent Q1 performance, strong Q2 outlook and confidence in the rest of the year, we are raising our 2017 outlook for revenue, earnings and cash flow.

  • Lastly, we will continue to manage the business for the long-term benefit of shareholders through an appropriate combination of investing in the business to drive sustainable earnings growth and returning capital to shareholders in the form of stock buybacks.

  • With that, I will turn it over to the operator for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Gary Mobley, Benchmark Company.

  • Gary Mobley - Analyst

  • Hi, thanks for taking my question.

  • Congratulations on a strong start to the year.

  • Let's start out with the order or magnitude of your guidance for 2017.

  • You beat in first quarter by almost $15 million.

  • You're raising the midpoint of your guide by $10 million for the full year and your full-year guidance implies that the second half of the year is nearly 5% lower than the first half, where typically it's normally the inverse of that.

  • Is that sequence of fiscal-year quarters purely a function of upfront hardware revenue recognition?

  • Or are you simply trying to be a little bit conservative as we start out the year?

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • Hi, Gary, this is Trac.

  • You're heading the right direction.

  • Certainly when we entered the year our plan was, from a revenue perspective, certainly skewed more in the second half versus the first half of the year.

  • What we're seeing in Q1 and what we're seeing in our outlook for Q2 is that the profile of both hardware and IP has skewed towards the front half.

  • So that's affecting the profile.

  • Overall we still feel -- in fact feel better about our outlook for revenue this year despite that profile.

  • Gary Mobley - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Aart, we've seen some re-acceleration in semiconductor sales after what has been basically three flat years in overall semiconductor sales.

  • We are now topping year over year to the tune of close to 10%.

  • So outside of any of the impact from consolidation in the industry, are you seeing a more buoyant environment as it relates to IP and EDA licensing?

  • Or is it still status quo with EDA revenue expected to grow somewhere in the neighborhood of 2% to 4%?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • In general, when the customers feel that they have a good year, everybody is a little bit more pleasant to deal with, as you would expect.

  • At the same time, I've said many, many times that the growth rate of the semiconductor industry in aggregate over multi-years is really about 4% to 4.5%.

  • The fact that from different years there can be big swings, is more a function of individual product lines and rhythms within the buying market than anything else.

  • Nonetheless, though, if there is one positive I would take out of this, is that the predictions that we've made now for of a number of years that electronics would bring about a wave of new opportunities through this whole notion of a SmartEverything, you can also call it machine learning or digital intelligence, is starting to become visible.

  • That is very exciting because if you have something that's a little bit smart, the one thing you want it is to be smarter.

  • And one way to make it to smarter is to give it more compute power.

  • We can see that the pressure and the push for advanced nodes is very solidly driving this notion forward and it's becoming increasingly real.

  • All you have to look at is how immensely powerful automatic driving cars are, and yet how immensely far they still have to go before you can completely trust them.

  • That's all good news for us.

  • It's in that context that the combination of hardware is getting better leads to software that is much more performance.

  • That leads to applications that really, will wow us in the years to come.

  • There is a little bit of that in this picture as well.

  • Gary Mobley - Analyst

  • Thank you for that.

  • That's it for me.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Rich Valera, Needham & Company.

  • Rich Valera - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • I'd like to revisit the question about the front half loading of the year, in particular on the hardware side.

  • When you entered FY17, or at least on the last call, you talked about how you're taking a cautious stance with respect hardware because of the difficulty in predicting the timing and magnitude of hardware in a given year.

  • Now that it looks like you've got the year pretty well set with a very strong first half, curious what your thoughts are on the second half.

  • Might that come in stronger?

  • Or do you feel like you've got the funnel pretty well set and you wouldn't really expect the second-half hardware funnel to build up further from here?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • In many ways you answered your own question.

  • You said at the beginning of the year we were cautious because we felt it was fairly difficult to predict a part of the hardware waves.

  • And you were right because we have not predicted such a strong Q1; and the fact that Q2 is a strong follow up is only encouraging.

  • But it's also true that we want to remain cautious.

  • That when you look at in aggregate, raising a year is a big deal when you do that early in the year, but many things can happen.

  • There's no indication of bad news, it's just that we are digesting the good news, at a slightly slower clip than being too aggressive.

  • Rich Valera - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • That's helpful.

  • I wanted to talk about the software integrity business.

  • One, you've had close to a quarter of having the acquisitions under your belt.

  • I wanted to get your impressions of how they are fitting in and how they are integrating in.

  • Talk about where you are in your longer term goal of creating this software sign off platform and what other pieces, if there really are any meaningful pieces that you think you'd need to get to that goal?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • Sure.

  • We have -- it was close about halfway in the quarter.

  • So far, the integration is, on both sides, a lot of learning while making sure that we continue to execute well.

  • I can state that the execution appears to be on track based on the plans that they have.

  • But the opportunity really is how does, in this case, one plus one really be more than two, in that the services can help accelerate a broader adoption of the tools.

  • Because the services tend to interact with high levels, in the strategic levels, in a company.

  • And how can the tools be a wonderful add-on to a service business that is already quite [performance] in some of the market segments, most notably the financial services market segment.

  • Having said that, I don't want to minimize at all the challenge of that learning because Synopsys fundamentally has been a product Company more than service Company.

  • We, of course, have a very large support force that service requires a certain set of behaviors.

  • We are step-by-step broadening the Cigital capability on a world-wide basis, which is a great opportunity, and at the same time making sure that both teams are well educated on the offerings that we have.

  • We are well on track to create something that is stronger again.

  • That belief is bolstered somewhat by the fact that the non-Cigital part of Synopsys, of SIG, did well again.

  • We have alluded to that the last few conference calls, that the predictability of that business, the number of large deals, was on a very good track.

  • And so that gives us a degree of solidity that gave us additional courage to make this move.

  • Rich Valera - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • That's helpful.

  • Thank you, Aart.

  • Operator

  • Tom Diffely, D.A. Davidson.

  • Tom Diffely - Analyst

  • Good afternoon.

  • One more question on the linearity of the year.

  • What is the current flow-through lead times for some of the hardware systems that you have?

  • And how long ahead of time do you typically get those orders?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • The lead times really at this point in time are only a marginal issue because typically we can execute within a quarter or so.

  • Now of course if an order comes in late in the quarter then typically it would not have much impact revenue-wise in that quarter.

  • Regarding the linearity, of course I understand that many of you are trying to handicap how good the rest of the year looks.

  • What we're fundamentally communicating is that our guidance at the beginning of the year turned out to be more conservative than the first quarter delivered and therefore we made some changes.

  • But we are maybe a conservative Company, or fundamentally we try to execute to what we say we will do.

  • And that's why after the first quarter we don't want to change guidance too much.

  • Having said that, run rates grew again.

  • We have many customers that are actually quite interested in the emulation part of the business, in the prototyping part of the business, because they're going more and more into the hardware-software part of the space that determines their time to market.

  • And so it's well possible that the second half of the year turns out to be strong.

  • It's just that we don't have visibility to that tune.

  • Tom Diffely - Analyst

  • Okay, that sounds good.

  • You had some comments earlier about your simulator coming online here pretty soon.

  • Does that close the gap at all with the emulator?

  • Or is it still a very distinct market for each of those?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • These are quite distinct markets because they have different [catches] both in speed but also in the ability to debug and look at things.

  • At the same time, one of the very strengths that our application platform has, is that it can be used very much as a continuum.

  • Meaning that one can do parts of the design in the VCS software simulator, one can do part of it in emulation or in the prototyping boards.

  • And we will continue on that track, because if we can execute well on that, while each one of these products from version to version will get faster again and higher capacity, the fact that they work well together is actually an asset for Synopsys.

  • Tom Diffely - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Great.

  • When I look out a few years, in my mind the big drivers, digital drivers of IP, the China IoT market, automotive and software integrity.

  • Curious if you think those are the three biggest drivers that you have and what are the relative strengths do you think of each?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • As you were listing them, I kept thinking about all the other products that are positively impacted too.

  • Because while things like IoT, machine learning, automotive are growing very rapidly, they pull with them an unbelievable need for more capacity and everything that connects to the cloud, to a massive amount of computing and therefore the bandwidth and the storage that goes with that.

  • That is why, as much as a lot of people call this the age of Internet of Things, the Internet of Things is almost more a catalyst to growth in all of these other dimension than anything else.

  • Now if you look at our products, there is no question that some of the products that have done particularly well happened to touch the areas that you mentioned.

  • And so IT is particularly relevant in people that want to very quickly do complex systems where they don't want to build all the blocks themselves.

  • Our IP blocks have literally been honed over many, many years and are constantly pushing the state of the art.

  • I mentioned already the verification of this intersection between hardware and software.

  • For us the promise of the software space, we originally got into that by realizing that software complexity was starting to rival hardware complexity, and that the penalty for errors was rapidly moving up.

  • Penalty for errors in hardware has always been high.

  • Software, as I said, you could get away with patches.

  • But that's not the case when the software drives things of very high value all the way to cars and human lives and so on.

  • And so you amend that with the very fact that there is a world of hacking that really with nothing good in mind.

  • You can see that the need for higher degrees of discipline in the software space is a necessity, even if it will take some time before development flows get there.

  • That is the mission that we are on.

  • While this is a new market, it's particularly rewarding now as we start to see that we are interacting with companies that literally five years ago we would never have dreamed of talking to.

  • And we're talking insurance companies, health companies, banking consortia, and so on.

  • These are all people that use software and use it in the context of very high-value propositions.

  • So they need to be safe and they need to be efficient

  • Tom Diffely - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Trac, when you look at some of these new drivers for the Company, does that fundamentally change the model over the next few years as they become a bigger percentage of the overall mix?

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • The emulation, Tom?

  • Tom Diffely - Analyst

  • The software integrity.

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • Oh, software integrity.

  • Certainly, as we -- and that's factored into the overall mix.

  • We've talked about that segment growing in the 20% to 25% range we are cognizant of how that grows as an overall mix.

  • And so when we talk about the long-term growth rates and earnings growth rate, that's factored in.

  • Tom Diffely - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Finally, when you look at some of the impressive numbers you have, 19 of the 20 top semiconductor guys for [placement], how much of those positions are sold positions versus shared positions with other employers?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • For many, many decades most positions have always been shared in various ways.

  • There are a few that are sole positions or there are a few that where one or the other company is massively dominant.

  • We are in field where constant advances are constantly being explored.

  • We have been very fortunate to do very well in this.

  • But our investment continues to be at the high speed and to race forward.

  • Customers will look at anything that helps them but they are also increasingly benefiting from the collaboration that comes out of fairly deep and long-term relationships.

  • Tom Diffely - Analyst

  • Thanks for your time today.

  • Operator

  • Krish Sankar, BofA Merrill Lynch.

  • Krish Sankar - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • I had a couple of number one hard to track.

  • If you look at your last quarter, did your EDA software revenue come down year over year?

  • I'm trying to figure out, because given we've been talking quite a bit about digital share gains and I'm trying to see if that is actually impacting the numbers quite yet.

  • Can you talk a little bit about the competitive situation and if EDA software revenue is down?

  • And then I had a follow-up.

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • Krish, revenue is actually up.

  • When you look at the year-over-year comparison and the trailing 12-month basis, it's actually up very healthfully, 8.5% year over year and 6% on a trailing 12-month basis.

  • Krish Sankar - Analyst

  • Okay, all right.

  • And can you talk a little bit about the competitive situation you are having?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • In general, we compete intensely for this market that continues to push hard and in some cases accelerate their need for technical advances.

  • And so as you know, there are not that many players in our field.

  • So it's a healthy and good thing that we are both pushing hard.

  • Synopsis has had the benefit of having a portfolio that is both well-anchored and quite complete and increasingly very well integrated in platforms that are helpful for the customers time to market and risk reduction.

  • All of these are probably statements that some of our competitors would make about themselves as well.

  • And we never underestimate them, but we are both providing tools that are similar to race cars, the faster they go, the better for the customer.

  • Krish Sankar - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Can you give us an update on this FASB ruling that's coming up, that's being implemented next year?

  • Some software companies are moving away from ratable model but the EDA companies and a few other security companies seems to be believing that the ratable change will not impact them.

  • Can you tell us where you stand in that spectrum and what gives you confidence the ratable model will continue?

  • Thank you.

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • Hi, Krish.

  • You're referring to 606, the new revenue recognition rules.

  • We have been working on this for a number of years and working closely with our auditors as well as the regulators.

  • First of all, let me remind you that this won't take effect for us until FY19, so there's a lot of time for us to implement it.

  • Right now, based on the work that we've done, we feel very confident that most of our ratable models should stay in place.

  • Krish Sankar - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Jay Vleeschhouwer, Griffin Securities.

  • Jay Vleeschhouwer - Analyst

  • Aart, I'd like to ask you about future growth potential within specific parts of core EDA, but excluding hardware, and where you might possibly see some positive inflections.

  • There are times when there are certain categories within EDA that foreseeably might grow or grow again.

  • If you go back a few years, four or five years, it was fairly foreseeable that the PCB category would see a reinvestment or retooling cycle, which it went on to do for a number of years.

  • You are not in that but just making a point about some predictability in this space.

  • Implementation has seen some renewal, obviously, with ICC and Cadence's business there.

  • So when I think about your references to DC and VCS and sign off, those are for the industry altogether about $1 billion of total EDA revenue.

  • I'm wondering if, after a fair number of years of somewhat flat results in those categories, there might not be in any or all of those, some new inflection over the next number of years?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • At a macro level, if you look at all of these products taken together, they're fundamentally anchored at least to a large portion, not entirely, in the semiconductor industry.

  • Per an earlier question, notwithstanding the year-to-year differences, the semiconductor industry has had a fairly steady growth rate and with steady R&D expenditures, and therefore fairly steady EDA growth all in all.

  • Within individual product groups, and especially when you connect them together in coherent platforms, there are actually very big changes in products in a matter of two to three years as it moves to the next generation.

  • These changes invariably are around finding a way to dramatically improve one of three characters.

  • Either characteristics of the quality of results, meaning the power of the chips or the performance of the chips, or the time to results, meaning make the product run much faster, or the cost of results which is reduce the area of chips.

  • These evolutions are not linear because often you work for two or three years on a set of profound algorithms and then suddenly it makes a difference.

  • If you look at a little bit higher level, and this is where it intersects with the strategy for our Company, the big inflection points from my perspective have been the addition of the IP business to EDA.

  • And this, of course, now already quite a number of years ago but now it is a significant portion of our business.

  • I've alluded the last couple of years to the inflection that is coming with the addition of the software side of hardware-software.

  • It's not a surprise that so many of the verification expenditures are increasingly focusing on that.

  • And then we have predicted that the software side itself would go through this by virtue of the complexity growth.

  • And so that is how we are looking at our opportunity space.

  • And to the earlier question of how does our financial profile evolve, be it in growth and profitability, while we're managing Synopsys as a portfolio of a number of specialty areas that are very related but somewhat independent in their growth spurts.

  • And in large arrangements with customers, the allocation of the individual revenue streams can be somewhat fuzzy just by virtue of accommodating how the customer wants to look at it.

  • I'm not sure I completely answered your question sharply, but I did give, what are the big things that actually bode well for us for a number of years to come.

  • Jay Vleeschhouwer - Analyst

  • Second question with respect to software integrity.

  • At the Investor Luncheon in New York back in October you made two interesting points about that business.

  • Number one, that you were seeing or would expect to see more large deals in that business.

  • So the question is if you are in fact beginning to see that?

  • Secondly, that business would necessarily have a services component to support customers pre- and post-sale and so forth.

  • You addressed that with the Cigital acquisition but the question is, do you think that makes you sufficiently capacious in services?

  • Or do you think you need to do more building, organically or otherwise, in services to support the SI business?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • Listening to my predictions through your mouth, I almost feel clairvoyant because indeed the deals did get larger.

  • And that's not surprising because this is the same history as EDA many years ago in many other fields where automation and verification gradually takes hold.

  • And yes, it takes hold faster with people that look forward and so on.

  • But really it happens very often when people have a catastrophe or an issue to deal with.

  • On the services side, you're right, we mentioned that then.

  • And to be honest, I don't recall if we were completely engaged with Cigital at that point in time already.

  • But we have felt for a while that the issues around security are so large that when you get the opportunity to talk to, let's say, the CIO or CSO or CTO of a large company, and they tell about all the security issues, the next answer is, well, we have this one product, why don't you just buy some, feels pretty shallow.

  • In that context, the Cigital acquisition was great because these are people that are accustomed and knowledgeable about reflecting the broader picture than advocating what is a good approach for the company to deal with it, while not necessarily pushing for individual products but, of course, now highlighting what we have.

  • So in that sense, I think that we will first learn how to run that business well.

  • And assuming that goes well, my guess is that this will broaden more and more on a world-wide basis.

  • Operator

  • Farhan Ahmad, Credit Suisse.

  • Farhan Ahmad - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • My first question is related to your recent law suit against [EB quitting].

  • And secondly, if you can talk about how big of issue is policy of software for you.

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • If you don't mind, we don't want to talk about individual legal situations, so let me more generalize.

  • From time to time we obviously see glaring cases of misuse of software.

  • We try to respond forcefully but gracefully to it.

  • It is always better if we can guide a customer towards a healthy long-term solution, if I can call it that.

  • [Everysoft] is more difficult and maybe legal situation is resulting from that.

  • We've had a few of those in the past, they have been resolved, professionally and positively.

  • Let's hope this yields the same.

  • Farhan Ahmad - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • My second question is in regards to the overall China market.

  • Are you seeing increased growth coming from China design companies?

  • And in relation to that, why isn't your Asia-Pacific revenues as a percentage of mix not growing?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • If you looked at our distribution of revenue over many, many years, you would see that Asia-Pac for decades has been growing substantially faster than other parts of the world.

  • Asia-Pacific itself has multiple components and Taiwan and Korea have been big parts of that for many years.

  • In the last number of years China has grown immensely, and of course has the potential to continue to do so.

  • Simultaneously, we know by virtue of having been in China since really the early 1990s, how the competence of the engineering teams and the companies that have grown and some have merged and have grown again, have progressed quite superbly.

  • And so in that sense, a number of companies that do state-of-the-art design in China just like anywhere else in the world.

  • We have been very fortunate to be, I believe, the largest contributor to that from an EDA-space point of view.

  • Farhan Ahmad - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Than my last question is on the [competent of dinamix].

  • Krish talked about it earlier.

  • Can you give us a sense of where are we in terms of production of (inaudible).

  • And do you think that can be a driver of share growth for you?

  • And also if you can touch on the on the IC Compiler on the custom side.

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • IC Compiler II has seen, actually, an enormously rapid adoption rate which continues.

  • And which is solidified more and more by the fact that we are also getting increasingly excellent results, especially when used in conjunction with some of our other tools.

  • So from that perspective, while I certainly don't want to be negative on any other competitive products, we have a high degree of confidence in this product line and we expect it to continue to grow.

  • Your second question was on Custom Compiler.

  • There too, this is a smaller product, less visibility and typically a slower adoption rate by virtue of the longer history that people have in the custom space.

  • And our focus has been primarily in the more advanced node, the FinFET technology.

  • And we are seeing some very good adoption, especially in the last few quarters.

  • We will continue to watch this space.

  • Farhan Ahmad - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • That's all I have.

  • Operator

  • Monika Garg, Pacific Crest Securities.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • This is Jason on for Monika.

  • Thanks for take my questions.

  • My first question relates to maintenance and service revenue.

  • I'm showing that it's up 20% quarter over quarter.

  • Is there any reclassification of revenue in this?

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • No, Jason.

  • The maintenance and service line should reflect the strength in IP.

  • In this quarter when we completed the Cigital acquisition, that business should flow through that line as well.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thank you.

  • That's helpful.

  • My next question was to the stock buyback.

  • How are you guys thinking about doing the rest of the $325 million for the rest of the year?

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • As I said, we will look at what's necessary to bring the share count down to the guidance range.

  • And we continue to evaluate whether or not it's expense to do an ASR or an open market.

  • That remains to be determined.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • My last question, with Siemens buying Mentor Graphics, have you seen any change in competitive dynamics in the market?

  • Do you see competition increasing, decreasing because of that position?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • For starters we certainly don't underestimate what the change can do for Mentor.

  • I certainly can not say that we've seen an increase in competitiveness.

  • But let's see what the future brings.

  • It's a very capable Company with very capable products.

  • Maybe if I can toot our own horn, I think that we are -- we have very capable products too, and increasingly a lot of our top customers reflect on the strength of our platforms.

  • That will certainly be a continued angle for competitiveness in this regard.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Mitch Steves, RBC Capital Markets.

  • Mitch Steves - Analyst

  • Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question.

  • I'm going to look at the linearity, not from a top-line perspective, but for operating margins here.

  • Typically the back half you get a lot of operating margin expansion, so I'm wondering if you're essentially saying that the operating margins will be down on year-over-year basis in the back half?

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • Hey, Mitch, this is Trac.

  • It will vary quarter to quarter.

  • We typically don't see it necessarily increasing through the year.

  • And it will vary depending on the profile of revenues and that could flow depending on hardware or IP services.

  • Then throughout the year, what we'll see is the change in variable comp as it ramps up or particularly on the commission side as it ramps up depending on shipments.

  • So I would not interpret that as something -- a longer term trend.

  • Mitch Steves - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • One quick follow-up.

  • On the IP business in your software investment, it should be growing materially higher than the rest of the Company.

  • I'm curious if this means for the next couple of years here, that you will see revenue re-accelerate if it's going to come down in the back half?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • I'm not sure if we understood the question.

  • You are saying that we will see the software business and the IP continue to grow well.

  • And what was the question attached to that?

  • Mitch Steves - Analyst

  • Essentially if the back half comes down low single digits by the implied guide, will you then re-accelerate because of a much higher mix of essentially software assets and IP?

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • If you're referring to the profitability part, obviously these businesses as we grow them, we also have in place a discipline to make them gradually more profitable.

  • The question is always when you have something that grows very fast, is it better from a competitive position, growing the value of the Company over time, to push on growth or on profitability.

  • That decision gets made on a continual basis.

  • But fundamentally we will be following a belief system that says once a business starts to grow, it also has to increase it's profitability.

  • And while the high-growth businesses are less profitable than the lower growth businesses, in aggregate I think we're ushering in a very good balanced portfolio situation.

  • Trac Pham - CFO

  • Mitch, let me add to Aart's comments.

  • I would not take the second half of the year and annualize it in any way or extrapolate off of that.

  • We are very comfortable with the overall business and the growth rates that we've identified from core EDA, IP and software integrity.

  • Those trends, remain intact.

  • The shift from the back half to the first half of the year is really the timing of the hardware and IP.

  • But overall, I think when you look at the business over a multi-year trend, those growth rates that we previously communicated for each of the segments remain intact.

  • Does that help?

  • Mitch Steves - Analyst

  • That's very helpful.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • I will turn it back to our speakers.

  • Thank you.

  • Aart de Geus - Chairman & Co-CEO

  • I guess we have reached the end of the hour.

  • Again, thank you very much for attending the earnings call.

  • We had a very strong quarter and we look forward to Q2 with a fairly high degree of confidence and a strong year as well.

  • As usual, we will be available for the after-call phone calls.

  • Thank you very much.

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