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Operator
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Second Quarter 2019 NXP Semiconductors Earnings Conference Call.
女士們,先生們,美好的一天,歡迎參加 2019 年第二季度恩智浦半導體收益電話會議。
(Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
(操作員說明)作為提醒,本次會議正在錄製中。
I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Palmer, Vice President of Investor Relations.
我現在想將會議轉交給投資者關係副總裁 Jeff Palmer。
You may begin.
你可以開始了。
Jeff Palmer - VP of IR
Jeff Palmer - VP of IR
Thank you, Sania, and good morning, everyone.
謝謝你,Sania,大家早上好。
Welcome to the NXP Semiconductors' Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Call.
歡迎參加恩智浦半導體 2019 年第二季度財報電話會議。
With me on the call today is Rick Clemmer, NXP's CEO; Kurt Sievers, NXP's President; and Peter Kelly, our CFO.
今天與我通話的是恩智浦首席執行官里克克萊默;恩智浦總裁Kurt Sievers;和我們的首席財務官彼得凱利。
If you've not obtained a copy of our earnings press release, it can be found at our company website under the Investor Relations section at nxp.com.
如果您尚未獲得我們的收益新聞稿副本,可以在我們公司網站的 nxp.com 投資者關係部分下找到它。
This call is being recorded and will be available for replay from our corporate website.
此通話正在錄音中,可從我們的公司網站重播。
Our call today will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause NXP's results to differ materially from management's current expectations.
我們今天的電話會議將包括涉及風險和不確定性的前瞻性陳述,這些風險和不確定性可能導致恩智浦的業績與管理層當前的預期存在重大差異。
These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, statements regarding the macroeconomic impact on the specific end markets in which we operate, the sale of new and existing products and our expectations for the financial results for the third quarter of 2019.
這些風險和不確定性包括但不限於關於宏觀經濟對我們經營所在的特定終端市場的影響、新產品和現有產品的銷售以及我們對 2019 年第三季度財務業績的預期的聲明。
Please be reminded that NXP undertakes no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements.
請注意,恩智浦不承擔公開修改或更新任何前瞻性陳述的義務。
For a full disclosure on forward-looking statements, please refer to our press release today.
有關前瞻性陳述的完整披露,請參閱我們今天的新聞稿。
Additionally, during our call, we will make reference to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which exclude the impact of purchase price accounting, restructuring, stock-based compensation, impairment, merger-related costs and other charges that are driven primarily by discrete events that management does not consider to be directly related to the underlying core operating performance of the company.
此外,在我們的電話會議中,我們將參考某些非公認會計原則財務措施,其中不包括主要由離散事件驅動的購買價格會計、重組、基於股票的薪酬、減值、合併相關成本和其他費用的影響該管理層認為與公司的基本核心經營業績沒有直接關係。
Pursuant to Regulation G, NXP has provided reconciliations of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our second quarter 2019 earnings press release, which will be furnished to the SEC on a Form 6-K and is available on NXP's website in the Investor Relations section at nxp.com.
根據 G 條例,恩智浦在我們的 2019 年第二季度收益新聞稿中提供了非 GAAP 財務指標與最直接可比的 GAAP 指標的對賬,該新聞稿將以 6-K 表格形式提供給 SEC,並可在 NXP 的網站在 nxp.com 的投資者關係部分。
I'd now like to turn the call over to Rick.
我現在想把電話轉給 Rick。
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Thanks, Jeff, and welcome, everyone, to our conference call today.
謝謝,傑夫,歡迎大家參加我們今天的電話會議。
Today, I'll start with and provide some mid- and long-term strategic commentary.
今天,我將開始並提供一些中長期戰略評論。
Then Kurt Sievers, our President, will review the end-market revenue details of Q2 and provide revenue guidance for Q3.
然後,我們的總裁 Kurt Sievers 將審查 Q2 的終端市場收入細節,並為 Q3 提供收入指導。
And finally, Peter Kelly will review the financial details of the quarter and expectations for third quarter.
最後,彼得凱利將審查本季度的財務細節和對第三季度的預期。
As most of you remember, last quarter we discussed company-specific design wins in our focused end markets of automotive and industrial and IoT.
你們大多數人都記得,上個季度我們討論了公司特定設計在我們專注的汽車、工業和物聯網終端市場的勝利。
Today, I'd like to provide additional details and share some exciting new engagements, which reflect the momentum we have in our target markets.
今天,我想提供更多細節並分享一些令人興奮的新活動,這些活動反映了我們在目標市場的發展勢頭。
Within our automotive market, we discussed that one of our key focus areas is RADAR solutions for level 2 and level 3 ADAS vehicles.
在我們的汽車市場中,我們討論了我們的重點關注領域之一是用於 2 級和 3 級 ADAS 車輛的雷達解決方案。
Initially, RADAR will facilitate automatic emergency braking, which is being mandated by multiple regulatory groups like NCAP in Europe.
最初,RADAR 將促進自動緊急制動,這是由歐洲 NCAP 等多個監管機構強制執行的。
Eventually, new use cases will be adaptive cruise control, lane change assistance, cross-traffic alerts and blind spot detection.
最終,新的用例將是自適應巡航控制、變道輔助、交叉交通警報和盲點檢測。
These features are all dependent on RADAR as the key enabling function, and ultimately, RADAR solutions will become standard equipment regardless of the car, tier or OEM brand, making all of our driving safer.
這些功能都依賴於 RADAR 作為關鍵的使能功能,最終,RADAR 解決方案將成為無論汽車、等級或 OEM 品牌的標准設備,使我們所有的駕駛更安全。
For NXP, we have emerged as the #1 supplier for the complete RADAR subsystem, with RADAR representing almost 10% of our auto revenues in 2018.
對於 NXP,我們已成為完整 RADAR 子系統的第一大供應商,RADAR 占我們 2018 年汽車收入的近 10%。
To date, our success on the processor side has been broad-based, while the transceiver shipments have been largely driven by a single large European Tier 1, who represents about 30% of the overall radar market and services several major OEMs globally.
迄今為止,我們在處理器方面的成功是廣泛的,而收發器的出貨量主要由單一的大型歐洲 Tier 1 推動,該公司佔整個雷達市場的 30% 左右,並為全球多家主要 OEM 提供服務。
We are excited that shipments from our design win momentum will expand based on the initial ramp-up of one of the most innovative North American Tier 1 suppliers, who we ultimately expect to have about 20% of the overall radar market.
我們很高興我們的設計贏得勢頭的出貨量將基於最具創新性的北美 1 級供應商之一的初步增長而擴大,我們最終預計該供應商將佔據整個雷達市場的 20% 左右。
We are now aligned with the Tier 1 market leaders, which service a dozen of the largest global auto OEMs.
我們現在與為十幾個全球最大的汽車原始設備製造商提供服務的一級市場領導者保持一致。
Our success in the ecosystem is due to the market-leading performance, product integration and complete end-to-end solutions supported by the industry's broadest portfolio and road map of multi-generation processors and front-end transceivers, both 77 gigahertz SiGe and RFCMOS.
我們在生態系統中的成功歸功於市場領先的性能、產品集成和完整的端到端解決方案,由業界最廣泛的產品組合和多代處理器和前端收發器路線圖(包括 77 GHz SiGe 和 RFCMOS)提供支持.
And we have additional Tier 1 design wins and engagements ongoing and we'll continue to invest in the area to expand our market and thought leadership.
我們還有更多的 1 級設計勝利和參與正在進行中,我們將繼續在該領域進行投資,以擴大我們的市場和思想領導力。
These engagements continue to underpin our confidence that NXP will outgrow the overall auto RADAR market with our planned growth of 25% to 30% compounded annually over the next few years.
這些合作繼續鞏固我們對恩智浦將超越整個汽車雷達市場的信心,我們計劃在未來幾年以每年 25% 至 30% 的複合增長率增長。
Now I'd like to turn to a very exciting new solution Ultra-Wideband or UWB.
現在我想轉向一個非常令人興奮的新解決方案超寬帶或 UWB。
UWB is the technology that enables secure relative location and distance measurement with a very high degree of precision and low latency.
UWB 是一種能夠以非常高的精度和低延遲實現安全的相對位置和距離測量的技術。
This is an area we have been investing for several years in a stealth mode, and believe NXP has a unique first-mover advantage, which yields category leadership.
這是我們多年來一直以隱形模式投資的領域,並且相信恩智浦具有獨特的先發優勢,從而產生了行業領先地位。
We see clear interest from participants in the automotive, industrial IoT, smart home, smart retail and mobile markets.
我們看到汽車、工業物聯網、智能家居、智能零售和移動市場的參與者表現出明顯的興趣。
One of the first use case applications will be to revenue -- revolutionize the next generation of secure car access solutions.
首批用例應用之一將是創收——徹底改變下一代安全汽車門禁解決方案。
We have a system-level solution that leverages foundation IP at the intersection of two existing NXP application areas: automotive secure car access and secure mobile payments, both areas where NXP is the undisputed true market leader with relative market share of 2.9x and 7.9x, the #2 player, respectively.
我們有一個系統級解決方案,在兩個現有恩智浦應用領域的交叉點利用基礎 IP:汽車安全汽車訪問和安全移動支付,在這兩個領域,恩智浦是無可爭議的真正市場領導者,相對市場份額分別為 2.9 倍和 7.9 倍,分別是#2 玩家。
The overall solution leverages NXP's market leadership in connectivity, embedded secure element and digital credential management technology.
整體解決方案利用了恩智浦在連接、嵌入式安全元件和數字憑證管理技術方面的市場領先地位。
As announced by the leading German newspaper and mentioned by Forbes, UWB, today, adds a new level of security, the car key fab -- fobs that can prevent relay station attacks by distinguishing the authentic signal from the relayed or spoofed signal.
正如德國主要報紙所宣布的和福布斯所提到的,UWB 今天增加了一個新的安全級別,即汽車鑰匙工廠——可以通過區分真實信號與中繼或欺騙信號來防止中繼站攻擊的密鑰卡。
UWB is the most precise, secure and real-time ranging technology that allows coexistence with existing radio technologies.
UWB 是最精確、最安全和實時的測距技術,可以與現有無線電技術共存。
This will give various applications the ability to process contextual information, such as the position of a UWB anchor, its movements and the distance to other devices with an unprecedented precision to within a few centimeters, which enables decision-making and management of these devices to take place with high granularity.
這將使各種應用程序能夠以前所未有的精度處理上下文信息,例如 UWB 錨點的位置、其運動以及與其他設備的距離,精度在幾厘米以內,從而使這些設備的決策和管理能夠以高粒度進行。
As an example, a consumer could remotely share secure access to home or building from their phone, where the door lock identifies the new person through localization and secured credentials before opening the door.
例如,消費者可以通過手機遠程共享對家庭或建築物的安全訪問,其中門鎖在開門之前通過本地化和安全憑證識別新人。
In addition to the secured door access, our customers have envisioned applications such as indoor location-based services, highly immersive virtual gaming systems and many more use cases.
除了安全門禁之外,我們的客戶還設想了諸如室內定位服務、高度沉浸式虛擬遊戲系統和更多用例等應用。
This is clearly not a science project looking for a problem to solve, we have developed products and are very actively engaged with leading customers in various target segments in a complete ecosystem.
這顯然不是一個尋找解決問題的科學項目,我們已經開發了產品,並在一個完整的生態系統中與各個目標領域的領先客戶非常積極地接觸。
We have won key designs with several customers across the mobile and automotive end markets with volume production to start in 2020.
我們已經在移動和汽車終端市場贏得了多家客戶的關鍵設計,並於 2020 年開始量產。
We see the market opportunity developing to approximately $900 million by 2024.
我們預計到 2024 年市場機會將發展到約 9 億美元。
We believe our market share will be equivalent with our first-mover advantage, unique IP, system knowledge and high RMS for foundational positions.
我們相信我們的市場份額將與我們的先發優勢、獨特的知識產權、系統知識和基礎職位的高 RMS 相當。
This is an exciting, new and incremental opportunity for NXP.
對於恩智浦來說,這是一個令人興奮的、新的和增量的機會。
Now turning to the industrial and IoT market.
現在轉向工業和物聯網市場。
On May 29, we announced the intent to acquire Marvell's connectivity assets.
5 月 29 日,我們宣布有意收購 Marvell 的連接資產。
We expect the business to add about $600 million of incremental revenue by 2022, roughly 2x its current run rate.
我們預計該業務到 2022 年將增加約 6 億美元的增量收入,大約是其當前運行速度的 2 倍。
This was not an acquisition we executed in the spur of the moment.
這不是我們一時衝動進行的收購。
We spent nearly a year looking at all the connectivity assets in the market.
我們花了將近一年的時間研究市場上的所有連接資產。
Our conclusion was that the Marvell team provides NXP with an industry-leading connectivity engineering team, a strong complementary product portfolio and a successful history of fundamental IP development.
我們的結論是,Marvell 團隊為 NXP 提供了行業領先的連接工程團隊、強大的互補產品組合以及基礎 IP 開發的成功歷史。
The product set and especially, the disruptive WiFi 6 portfolio will immediately complement our key processing, security and connectivity offerings in our strategic end markets of industrial and IoT as well as in automotive.
該產品集,尤其是顛覆性的 WiFi 6 產品組合,將立即補充我們在工業和物聯網戰略終端市場以及汽車領域的關鍵處理、安全和連接產品。
As a point of reference, looking at the recent history of all applications in cross-over processor design wins, we have been awarded in the industrial and IoT market, nearly 2/3 have included a connectivity solution, which had to be sourced from other vendors.
作為參考,回顧所有應用在跨界處理器設計中獲勝的近期歷史,我們在工業和物聯網市場獲得了獎項,近 2/3 包含連接解決方案,該解決方案必須來自其他供應商。
Connectivity is clearly becoming a must-have functional capability for IoT solutions.
連接性顯然正在成為物聯網解決方案的必備功能。
We believe our leading processor product offering, our broad go-to-market channel and the market inflection by WiFi 6 will all directly underpin the strong growth we have highlighted.
我們相信,我們領先的處理器產品供應、我們廣泛的上市渠道以及 WiFi 6 對市場的影響都將直接支持我們強調的強勁增長。
We are very excited about the transaction and look forward to welcoming the team to NXP.
我們對這筆交易感到非常興奮,並期待著歡迎團隊加入恩智浦。
Lastly, a quick comment on our efforts in the mobile market.
最後,快速評論一下我們在移動市場的努力。
As you remember from our Analyst Day, our focus in the mobile markets is primarily aimed at the evolution and adoption of the mobile wallet and associated services like transit ticketing.
正如您在我們的分析師日所記得的那樣,我們對移動市場的關注主要是針對移動錢包和相關服務(如交通票務)的發展和採用。
We said our growth in the mobile market would be a function of the increased attach rate, not the fundamental handset unit growth.
我們說過,我們在移動市場的增長將取決於附加率的提高,而不是基本的手機單位增長。
We believe the mobile wallet attach rate in 2018 was about 30% of all phones, and we are targeting this to expand to about 50% by 2021.
我們認為 2018 年的移動錢包附加率約為所有手機的 30%,我們的目標是到 2021 年將這一比例擴大到 50% 左右。
I'd like to report that a large Chinese handset OEM has aggressively deployed our mobile wallet solution now across its entire portfolio, whereas in the past, the adoption had been only deployed on limited premium models.
我想報告的是,一家大型中國手機 OEM 現在已在其整個產品組合中積極部署我們的移動錢包解決方案,而在過去,這種採用僅部署在有限的高端機型上。
This customer is strategically focused on increasing its market share in both the domestic China and global handset market, and as a result, has significantly increased its 2019 launch and build plans.
該客戶在戰略上專注於增加其在中國國內和全球手機市場的市場份額,因此顯著增加了其 2019 年的發布和建造計劃。
As a proof point, NXP experienced a significant ramp in demand during Q2, and this is a great example of how customers are perceiving the value of NXP's mobile wallet, especially in the domestic Chinese market for mass transit access.
作為一個證明點,恩智浦在第二季度經歷了顯著的需求增長,這是客戶如何看待恩智浦移動錢包價值的一個很好的例子,尤其是在中國國內公共交通接入市場。
Kurt will review the specific details in a moment.
Kurt 稍後將回顧具體細節。
In summary, our strategy continues to yield positive results.
總而言之,我們的戰略繼續取得積極成果。
We will continue to drive focus in our strategic end markets, engaging with customers to deliver superior, highly differentiated products regardless of the short-term fluctuations in demand.
我們將繼續專注於我們的戰略終端市場,與客戶合作以提供卓越的、高度差異化的產品,無論需求的短期波動如何。
I'd like to now pass the call over to Kurt to discuss the results of the current quarter.
我現在想把電話轉給庫爾特,討論本季度的結果。
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
Thanks, Rick, and good morning, everyone.
謝謝,瑞克,大家早上好。
I'm really glad to be able to speak with you all today.
我真的很高興今天能夠與大家交談。
Overall, our Q2 results were above the midpoint of our guidance with the contribution from the mobile market somewhat stronger than planned, while the demand in the auto markets was slightly weaker.
總體而言,我們的第二季度業績高於我們預期的中點,移動市場的貢獻略強於計劃,而汽車市場的需求則略弱。
Taken together, NXP delivered revenue of $2.22 billion, which, combined with good expense control, enabled us to successfully deliver operating profitability above the higher end of our guidance range.
總的來說,恩智浦實現了 22.2 億美元的收入,再加上良好的費用控制,使我們能夠成功實現高於我們指導範圍上限的運營盈利能力。
Let me turn to the specific trends in Q2 in our focused end markets.
讓我談談我們關注的終端市場第二季度的具體趨勢。
Automotive revenue was $1.03 billion, down 10% year-on-year, in line with our guidance.
汽車收入為 10.3 億美元,同比下降 10%,符合我們的預期。
Based on the most recently available IHS data, year-on-year global car protection trends continue to be revised down, especially in China and Europe, the 2 largest auto manufacturing markets, while the North American market slowed modestly.
根據最新的 IHS 數據,全球汽車保護趨勢繼續向下修正,尤其是在中國和歐洲這兩個最大的汽車製造市場,而北美市場則溫和放緩。
This had the effect of slightly weaker-than-anticipated shipments in Q2 for NXP.
這導致恩智浦第二季度的出貨量略低於預期。
Revenue in all our major product categories declined versus the year-ago period as anticipated.
正如預期的那樣,我們所有主要產品類別的收入與去年同期相比均有所下降。
Except for revenue from ADAS, especially RADAR, which was up double digits, a continued reflection of NXP's differentiated product offerings and our strong customer traction, very much in line with how Rick laid it out just a minute ago.
除了來自 ADAS,尤其是 RADAR 的收入增長了兩位數,這繼續反映了恩智浦的差異化產品和我們強大的客戶吸引力,這與 Rick 一分鐘前的佈局非常一致。
In industrial and IoT, revenue was $390 million, down 14% year-on-year, in line with our expectations as the demand for general-purpose MCU products in the broad-based China market continues to be very weak.
在工業和物聯網方面,收入為 3.9 億美元,同比下降 14%,符合我們的預期,因為中國市場對通用 MCU 產品的需求仍然非常疲軟。
However, we saw the expected double-digit year-on-year growth of our crossover processor products abate from a small overall base today.
然而,我們看到我們的跨界處理器產品預期的兩位數同比增長從今天的小整體基數開始減弱。
Remember, our industrial and IoT business is primarily serviced through our global distribution partners and relies on tens of thousands of smaller customers, which appear to be particularly affected by the continued U.S.-China trade tensions.
請記住,我們的工業和物聯網業務主要通過我們的全球分銷合作夥伴提供服務,並依賴於數以萬計的小客戶,這些客戶似乎尤其受到持續的美中貿易緊張局勢的影響。
Let me turn to mobile.
讓我轉向手機。
Revenue was $297 million, up 25% year-on-year, better than our expectations.
收入為 2.97 億美元,同比增長 25%,好於我們的預期。
As Rick just mentioned, we continue to see the attach rate of our mobile transaction solutions grow with a broader set of customers and moving from premium to volume and all the way to feature phones.
正如 Rick 剛剛提到的,我們繼續看到我們的移動交易解決方案的附加率隨著更廣泛的客戶群而增長,並從高端手機轉向批量手機,一直到功能手機。
Specifically, in Q2, we saw a large Chinese handset customer, who is focused on increasing its market share globally and locally and ramped orders on us, a touch more than what we had anticipated.
具體來說,在第二季度,我們看到了一家中國手機大客戶,他們專注於增加其在全球和本地的市場份額,並增加了對我們的訂單,這超出了我們的預期。
Lastly, our communication and infrastructure segments, revenue was $499 million, up 19% year-on-year, in line with our guidance.
最後,我們的通信和基礎設施部門的收入為 4.99 億美元,同比增長 19%,符合我們的預期。
All associated product lines grew during Q2, with our power solutions continuing to drive strong double-digit growth versus the year-ago period.
所有相關產品線在第二季度都有增長,與去年同期相比,我們的電源解決方案繼續推動強勁的兩位數增長。
And consistent with last quarter, we experienced strong annual growth in our shipments for both our massive MIMO and high-power single-channel RF power amplifiers with the increased demand spread across nearly all the global base station OEMs.
與上一季度一致,我們的大規模 MIMO 和大功率單通道射頻功率放大器的出貨量均實現了強勁的年度增長,需求的增長遍及幾乎所有全球基站 OEM。
Now turning to our expectations for quarter 3. In the auto and industrial and IoT markets, our guidance reflects ongoing subacute ordering trends due to macro uncertainty, combined with the anticipated pause in the communications infrastructure market after the blistering pace of growth over the last quarters.
現在轉向我們對第 3 季度的預期。在汽車、工業和物聯網市場,我們的指導反映了由於宏觀不確定性導致的持續亞急性訂購趨勢,以及在過去幾個季度的快速增長後通信基礎設施市場預期暫停.
Embedded in our Q3 mobile guidance is what we would consider normal sequential order rates from our largest premium handset customer, offset by a sequential step down from the Chinese handset customer we previously discussed.
在我們的第三季度移動指南中嵌入的是我們認為來自我們最大的高端手機客戶的正常連續訂單率,被我們之前討論的中國手機客戶的連續下降所抵消。
Taken together, this distorts what some elements would consider seasonality of our mobile business into Q3 of this year.
總而言之,這扭曲了一些因素認為我們的移動業務在今年第三季度的季節性。
We currently anticipate total revenue will be in the range of flat to up 2% sequentially.
我們目前預計總收入將在環比持平至上升 2% 的範圍內。
At the midpoint of our range, this is an increase of 1% sequentially or $2.24 billion.
在我們範圍的中點,這是環比增長 1% 或 22.4 億美元。
From a year-over-year perspective, this represents a decline of about 8% versus the same period a year ago, of which 120 basis points is the elimination of the MSA versus the year ago period.
從同比來看,這比去年同期下降了約 8%,其中 120 個基點是與去年同期相比取消了 MSA。
At the midpoint, we do anticipate the following sequential trends in our business: Automotive is expected to be up low single digits versus Q2.
在中點,我們確實預計我們的業務將出現以下連續趨勢:與第二季度相比,汽車行業預計將增長低個位數。
Industrial and IoT is expected to be up in the upper single-digit range on a percentage basis.
工業和物聯網預計將在百分比基礎上上升個位數。
Mobile is expected to be down in the low single digits on a percentage basis.
預計移動設備將在百分比基礎上以低個位數下降。
And finally, communications, infrastructure and other is expected to be down in the low single digits on a percentage basis.
最後,通信、基礎設施和其他方面的百分比預計將以低個位數下降。
We believe the short-term demand environment continues to be challenging and has incrementally weakened versus our prior view.
我們認為,短期需求環境仍然充滿挑戰,並且與我們之前的看法相比已經逐漸減弱。
And yet, we do still anticipate the second half of the year to be greater than the first half, though at a lesser rate than assumed earlier this year.
然而,我們仍然預計今年下半年將高於上半年,儘管增速低於今年早些時候的假設。
In summary, our new product introductions, customer engagement levels and design win momentum in our strategic focus areas continue to be very positive.
總而言之,我們在戰略重點領域的新產品推出、客戶參與度和設計贏得勢頭繼續非常積極。
And we continue to be very optimistic about the long-term potential of NXP.
我們繼續對恩智浦的長期潛力非常樂觀。
And with that, I would like to pass the call to you, Peter, for a review of our financial performance.
有了這個,我想把電話轉給你,彼得,審查我們的財務業績。
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
Thank you, Kurt, and good morning to everyone on today's call.
謝謝你,庫爾特,今天電話會議上的每個人早上好。
As Kurt's already covered the drivers of the revenue during the quarter and provided our revenue outlook for Q3, I'll move to the financial highlights.
由於庫爾特已經涵蓋了本季度收入的驅動因素並提供了我們對第三季度的收入展望,我將轉向財務亮點。
In summary, our Q2 revenue performance was just above the midpoint of guidance which, combined with good expense control, resulted in a very strong non-GAAP rate of profit.
總而言之,我們第二季度的收入表現略高於指導的中點,再加上良好的費用控制,導致了非常強勁的非公認會計原則利潤率。
Focusing on the details of Q2, total revenue was $2.22 billion, down 3% year-on-year, of which, 160 basis points was the elimination of the MSA versus the year-ago period.
關注Q2細節,總收入為22.2億美元,同比下降3%,其中MSA較去年同期取消160個基點。
We generated $1.2 billion in non-GAAP gross profit and reported a non-GAAP gross margin of 53.3%, up 50 basis points year-on-year and in line with the midpoint of our guidance.
我們創造了 12 億美元的非美國通用會計準則毛利潤,報告非美國通用會計準則毛利率為 53.3%,同比增長 50 個基點,符合我們指引的中點。
Total non-GAAP operating expenses were $541 million, down $50 million year-on-year and down $6 million from Q1.
非美國通用會計準則運營費用總額為 5.41 億美元,同比減少 5000 萬美元,比第一季度減少 600 萬美元。
This was $12 million better than the midpoint of our guidance.
這比我們指導的中點高出 1200 萬美元。
From a total operating profit perspective, non-GAAP operating profit was $640 million and non-GAAP operating margin was 28.9%, up 190 basis points year-on-year, despite a $73 million drop in revenue over the same period.
從總營業利潤來看,非美國通用會計準則營業利潤為 6.4 億美元,非美國通用會計準則營業利潤率為 28.9%,同比增長 190 個基點,儘管同期收入下降了 7300 萬美元。
Interest expense was $61 million.
利息支出為 6100 萬美元。
Cash taxes for ongoing operations were $30 million and noncontrolling interest were $5 million, all modestly better than the midpoint of our guidance.
持續運營的現金稅為 3000 萬美元,非控股權益為 500 萬美元,均略好於我們指導的中點。
Stock-based compensation, which is not included in our non-GAAP earnings was $87 million.
不包括在我們的非公認會計原則收益中的基於股票的薪酬為 8700 萬美元。
Now I'd like to turn to the changes in our cash and debt.
現在我想談談我們的現金和債務的變化。
Our total debt at the end of Q2 was $8.54 billion, up $1.2 billion sequentially, as we issued $1.75 billion of new debt and retired $600 million of existing debt.
我們在第二季度末的總債務為 85.4 億美元,比上一季度增加了 12 億美元,因為我們發行了 17.5 億美元的新債務並償還了 6 億美元的現有債務。
Cash was $3.03 billion; net debt was $5.51 billion, slightly above Q1.
現金為30.3億美元;淨債務為 55.1 億美元,略高於第一季度。
We exited the quarter with a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA of $3.15 billion, and our ratio of net debt to trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA at the end of Q2 was 1.75x and our non-GAAP interest coverage was 10.5x.
我們以 31.5 億美元的過去 12 個月調整後 EBITDA 結束本季度,我們在第二季度末的淨債務與過去 12 個月調整後 EBITDA 的比率為 1.75 倍,我們的非公認會計原則利息覆蓋率為 10.5 倍。
Our liquidity is excellent and our balance sheet continues to be very strong.
我們的流動性非常好,我們的資產負債表仍然非常強勁。
During Q2, we returned $716 million to shareholders as we bought about 6.6 million shares for $645 million and paid $71 million in cash dividends.
在第二季度,我們以 6.45 億美元購買了約 660 萬股股票並支付了 7100 萬美元的現金股息,向股東返還了 7.16 億美元。
Turning to working capital metrics.
轉向營運資金指標。
Days of inventory was 100 days, a decrease of 13 days sequentially and a quarter-on-quarter decline of $97 million.
庫存天數為 100 天,環比減少 13 天,環比減少 9700 萬美元。
We continue to aggressively manage our distribution channel and inventory in the channel was very healthy at 2.4 months within our long-term targets.
我們繼續積極管理我們的分銷渠道,渠道中的庫存在我們的長期目標範圍內 2.4 個月非常健康。
Days receivable were 32 days, a decrease of 3 days sequentially and days payable were 67, a decrease of 7 days versus the prior quarter.
應收天數32天,環比減少3天,應付天數67天,比上一季度減少7天。
Taken together, our cash conversion cycle was 65 days, an improvement of 9 days versus the prior quarter.
總而言之,我們的現金轉換週期為 65 天,比上一季度縮短了 9 天。
Cash flow from operations was $517 million, net CapEx was $106 million, resulting in free cash flow of $411 million.
運營現金流為 5.17 億美元,淨資本支出為 1.06 億美元,自由現金流為 4.11 億美元。
Turning to our expectations for the third quarter.
轉向我們對第三季度的預期。
As Kurt mentioned, we anticipate third quarter revenue to be about $2.24 billion, plus or minus $30 million.
正如庫爾特所說,我們預計第三季度收入約為 22.4 億美元,上下浮動 3000 萬美元。
At the midpoint, this is up 1% sequentially.
在中點,這環比增長了 1%。
We expect non-GAAP gross margin to be about 53.7%, plus or minus 30 basis points.
我們預計非美國通用會計準則毛利率約為 53.7%,上下浮動 30 個基點。
Operating expenses are expected to be about $536 million, plus or minus about $10 million.
運營費用預計約為 5.36 億美元,上下浮動約 1000 萬美元。
And taken together, we see non-GAAP operating margin to be about 29.7%, plus or minus about 20 basis points.
綜合來看,我們認為非美國通用會計準則營業利潤率約為 29.7%,上下浮動約 20 個基點。
We estimate interest expense to be about $69 million and anticipate cash tax related to ongoing operations to be about $41 million.
我們估計利息費用約為 6900 萬美元,預計與持續運營相關的現金稅約為 4100 萬美元。
Noncontrolling interest will be about $10 million, reflecting improved loadings at SSMC.
非控股權益將約為 1000 萬美元,反映了 SSMC 的負載增加。
I'd like to provide an update on our share repurchase program.
我想提供有關我們股票回購計劃的最新信息。
As previously mentioned, during the second quarter, we bought back approximately 6.6 million shares at a cost of $645 million.
如前所述,在第二季度,我們以 6.45 億美元的成本回購了大約 660 萬股股票。
Since the beginning of Q3 2018, we have repurchased just over 69 million shares for a total of $6.33 billion.
自 2018 年第三季度開始以來,我們以總計 63.3 億美元的價格回購了略高於 6900 萬股的股票。
Combined with our quarterly cash dividend, we've returned $6.55 billion to our owners over this period.
加上我們的季度現金股息,我們在此期間向我們的所有者返還了 65.5 億美元。
Our capital strategy continues to be to return all excess cash to our owners while maintaining a target leverage ratio of 2x net debt to trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA.
我們的資本戰略仍然是將所有多餘的現金返還給我們的所有者,同時保持 2 倍淨債務與過去 12 個月調整後 EBITDA 的目標槓桿比率。
During the second quarter, we announced the acquisition of Marvell connectivity assets for $1.76 billion.
在第二季度,我們宣布以 17.6 億美元收購 Marvell 連接資產。
And as we build cash to pay for this asset, we will likely pause our share repurchase program for the balance of 2019.
隨著我們積累現金來支付這項資產,我們可能會在 2019 年的餘額中暫停我們的股票回購計劃。
So for the third quarter we suggest that for modeling purposes you use an average share count of 284 million shares.
因此,對於第三季度,我們建議出於建模目的使用 2.84 億股的平均股數。
Finally, I have some closing comments I'd like to make.
最後,我想發表一些結束語。
Firstly, as previously announced, the NXP Board of Directors has decided that NXP will become a U.S. domestic filer as of August 2019, though we will continue to be a Dutch-domiciled company.
首先,正如之前宣布的那樣,恩智浦董事會已決定,恩智浦將於 2019 年 8 月成為美國國內申報者,但我們仍將是一家在荷蘭註冊的公司。
As a result, in October, we will file our first quarterly 10-Q financial statements and we will submit our annual 10-K in February of 2020.
因此,我們將在 10 月提交第一份季度 10-Q 財務報表,並將在 2020 年 2 月提交年度 10-K。
We believe this will ultimately lead to NXP being included in the various broad-based U.S. equity indexes.
我們相信這最終將導致恩智浦被納入各種基礎廣泛的美國股票指數。
Secondly, as Rick highlighted, we're very positive about the acquisition of the Marvell connectivity assets, and we have now submitted all the required regulatory pre-merger notifications.
其次,正如 Rick 強調的那樣,我們對收購 Marvell 連接資產非常積極,我們現在已經提交了所有必要的監管合併前通知。
We received an early termination clearance from the U.S. Federal Trade Commission on July 11, and continue to expect that all regulatory approvals will be complete by the first quarter of 2020, with the possibility that the remaining approvals could be obtained earlier.
我們於 7 月 11 日收到美國聯邦貿易委員會的提前終止許可,並繼續預計所有監管批准將在 2020 年第一季度完成,其餘批准可能會更早獲得。
As Kurt pointed out, we are pleased with our performance in Q2.
正如 Kurt 所指出的,我們對第二季度的表現感到滿意。
Our revenue was slightly better than guidance, and with the contribution from the mobile market a bit stronger-than-expected, while the automotive market was slightly weaker.
我們的收入略好於預期,移動市場的貢獻略強於預期,而汽車市場則略弱。
Our expectations are that revenue in the second half of the year will be greater than in the first half of the year.
我們的預期是下半年的收入將大於上半年。
However, the absolute performance is likely to be weaker than we originally anticipated at the beginning of the year, so for that matter, at the end of last quarter.
但是,絕對錶現可能會弱於我們在年初的最初預期,因此,就此而言,在上個季度末。
Our non-GAAP margin improved again in Q2, and we anticipate further improvements into Q3 as we continue to work towards our intermediate target of 55% exiting Q4 2019 on flat year-on-year revenue.
我們的非 GAAP 利潤率在第二季度再次提高,我們預計第三季度將進一步改善,因為我們將繼續努力實現 55% 的中間目標,即 2019 年第四季度的收入同比持平。
I continue to have confidence in our ability to deliver the improvements under our control, particularly as regards to cost control.
我繼續相信我們有能力在我們的控制下進行改進,特別是在成本控制方面。
However, given the current environment, it's difficult to predict what the final revenue for the fourth quarter and its impact on gross margin might be.
然而,鑑於目前的環境,很難預測第四季度的最終收入及其對毛利率的影響。
So with that, I'd now like to turn the call back over to the operator for your questions.
因此,我現在想將電話轉回給接線員,以解決您的問題。
Jeff Palmer - VP of IR
Jeff Palmer - VP of IR
Sania, we'll now pull for questions, please.
薩尼亞,我們現在來提問,拜託。
Operator
Operator
(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Craig Hettenbach of Morgan Stanley.
(操作員說明)我們的第一個問題來自摩根士丹利的 Craig Hettenbach。
Craig Matthew Hettenbach - VP
Craig Matthew Hettenbach - VP
First question just, Rick, talking about the current environment.
瑞克,第一個問題是關於當前環境的。
Like you said, things have still gotten a bit worse here from a macro perspective, but just curious to see how you're seeing distributors act during this period of time?
就像您說的,從宏觀角度來看,這裡的情況仍然有些糟糕,但只是想看看您在這段時間內看到分銷商的表現如何?
I think last quarter, you mentioned you could have shipped 40 more to distribution than you did and you kind of held back.
我想上個季度,你提到你本可以比你多運送 40 件,但你有點退縮了。
And so how you managed it this quarter and as you look into Q3?
那麼你是如何在本季度和第三季度進行管理的?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Yes, thanks.
是啊謝謝。
I think the market environment hasn't changed significantly.
我認為市場環境沒有顯著變化。
We have anticipated that we would see some improvements in the second half of the year, and clearly, that's been pushed out.
我們曾預計,我們會在下半年看到一些改進,很明顯,這已經被推遲了。
We do see a little bit of improvement in China I would say, and I think that comes down to just the fact that their inventory levels are down, where now when they have orders, they have to place -- they have to order product to be able to supply those.
我想說,我們確實在中國看到了一些改善,我認為這歸結為他們的庫存水平下降了,現在當他們有訂單時,他們必須下訂單——他們必須訂購產品到能夠提供這些。
However, at the same time, we've seen Europe weaken and we've seen the U.S. weaken.
然而,與此同時,我們看到歐洲走弱,我們也看到美國走弱。
When you look at our distributor partners, they are clearly not having the same performance levels they were as you look at their announcement of their results with even one of them doing a pre-announcement associated with it.
當您查看我們的分銷商合作夥伴時,他們顯然沒有與您查看他們的結果公告時相同的績效水平,甚至他們中的一個人也發布了與之相關的預先公告。
So I think the environment continues to stay quite uncertain.
所以我認為環境仍然非常不確定。
The improvements that we had anticipated have definitely been moved out, although we still are improving slightly as we show from the base.
我們預期的改進肯定已經被移出,儘管我們仍然在稍微改進,正如我們從基礎顯示的那樣。
Clearly, automotive is improving.
顯然,汽車正在改善。
We've been fortunate that we had the strength of our infrastructure and 5G deployment over the last couple of quarters, and clearly the large mobile customer that deployed on more broadly based in Q2 that then requires a little bit of adjustment in Q3, after they filled up their supply chain.
我們很幸運,我們在過去幾個季度擁有強大的基礎設施和 5G 部署,顯然大型移動客戶在第二季度部署得更廣泛,然後需要在第三季度進行一些調整,之後他們填滿了他們的供應鏈。
So all of that comes together to kind of create a little bit of an uncertain environment, I would say, on a continuous basis and not the uptick that we had anticipated for the -- for Q3 and going forward all at this point yet.
因此,所有這些結合在一起,創造了一個有點不確定的環境,我會說,在持續的基礎上,而不是我們對第三季度和目前所有情況的預期的上升。
Craig Matthew Hettenbach - VP
Craig Matthew Hettenbach - VP
Okay.
好的。
I appreciate that, the context there, Rick.
我很欣賞那裡的背景,里克。
And then just a follow up for Kurt on the automotive side, particularly for BMS just kind of how you're feeling about from a design perspective?
然後只是對 Kurt 在汽車方面的跟進,特別是對於 BMS,從設計的角度來看,您的感受如何?
What you're seeing in the market for new designs around BMS?
您在市場上看到了圍繞 BMS 的新設計?
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
Yes.
是的。
Thanks, Craig.
謝謝,克雷格。
No, clearly, we do see continuous strong traction on the design side, since BMS is 100% a function of the traction and penetration of all levels of electrical vehicles.
不,很明顯,我們確實在設計方面看到了持續的強大牽引力,因為 BMS 100% 是所有級別電動汽車牽引力和滲透率的函數。
All the way from mild hybrids over hybrids to fully electric vehicles.
從輕度混合動力車到混合動力車,再到全電動汽車。
Our traction on the design win side is good, and we do see now in the second half of this year the first more significant shipments going.
我們在設計獲勝方面的牽引力很好,我們現在確實在今年下半年看到了第一批更重要的出貨量。
I think we talked earlier about the fact that a large European OEM is going into full production in the second half of this year with the fully electric vehicle, which we serve 100%.
我想我們之前談到了這樣一個事實,一家大型歐洲 OEM 將在今年下半年推出全電動汽車,我們 100% 提供服務。
So from that perspective, we are very much on track, Craig, with what we had expected on the BMS side.
所以從這個角度來看,克雷格,我們非常符合我們在 BMS 方面的預期。
I might want to give you a little bit more detail on the different levels and the different silicon levels -- content silicon levels in the different source of vehicles.
我可能想給你更多關於不同級別和不同矽級別的詳細信息——不同車輛來源中的內容矽級別。
So we are, especially, focused now and have a very high success rate in the low- and mid-voltage electric vehicles.
所以我們現在特別專注,在中低壓電動汽車上的成功率非常高。
This contains mild hybrids and full hybrid vehicles.
這包括輕度混合動力和全混合動力汽車。
In those vehicles, we do see silicon content from NXP in the range of $50 to $90 per car.
在這些車輛中,我們確實看到恩智浦的矽含量在每輛車 50 到 90 美元之間。
That contains the microcontroller and it contains all the analog front-end chips on each of the battery cells.
它包含微控制器,它包含每個電池單元上的所有模擬前端芯片。
Obviously, the larger the battery is, the more cells, the more analog front-ends and higher the silicon content.
顯然,電池越大,電芯越多,模擬前端越多,矽含量越高。
That's why I give you this range of $50 to $90.
這就是為什麼我給你這個 50 到 90 美元的範圍。
For those particular reasons, our design win rate continues to be in a range of, I would say, 80% hit rate.
由於這些特殊原因,我們的設計勝率繼續保持在 80% 的命中率範圍內。
So from all the visibility we have into open design win funnel, we win -- we continue to win about 80%, which is truly high.
因此,從我們對開放式設計獲勝漏斗的所有可見性來看,我們贏了——我們繼續贏了大約 80%,這確實很高。
This is next to the fully electric vehicles, where I just quoted to you that with this large European OEM, we are going into production as we speak.
這是在全電動汽車旁邊,我剛剛向您引用過,與這家大型歐洲 OEM 合作,我們正在生產。
Those cars we call high-voltage BMS systems, so they typically go all the way up to 800 volts.
那些我們稱之為高壓 BMS 系統的汽車,因此它們的電壓通常一直高達 800 伏。
They have a somewhat higher silicon content.
它們的矽含量略高。
Here we can cover between $80 and $160 per vehicle.
在這裡,我們可以為每輛車支付 80 美元到 160 美元之間的費用。
And also there, our traction is good, but not as high as the 80%, which I quoted for the low- to mid-voltage cars.
而且在那裡,我們的牽引力很好,但沒有我為中低壓汽車引用的 80% 高。
So Craig, I know that went a little bit deeper than you might have expected, but since this is such a area of high interest, I felt it was appropriate to give you a bit more granularity here.
所以克雷格,我知道這比你預期的要深入一些,但由於這是一個非常受關注的領域,我覺得在這裡給你更多的細節是合適的。
Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from John Pitzer of Crédit Suisse.
我們的下一個問題來自瑞士信貸的約翰·皮策。
John William Pitzer - MD, Global Technology Strategist and Global Technology Sector Head
John William Pitzer - MD, Global Technology Strategist and Global Technology Sector Head
My first question just on inventory management.
我的第一個問題只是關於庫存管理。
You guys did a really good job in the June quarter, both with channel inventory and inventory on your own balance sheet.
你們在六月季度做得非常好,無論是渠道庫存還是您自己資產負債表上的庫存。
Peter, I'm kind of curious if you can give us some sort of guidance looking into September of how you think your own inventory days would trend?
彼得,我很好奇你能否給我們一些指導,看看你認為自己的庫存天數會如何變化?
And I guess, importantly, as part of your gross margin target of 55% exiting the year, were there any utilization actions that you've taken that were a headwind, that start to become a tailwind as you thought about managing inventory?
而且我想,重要的是,作為您今年毛利率目標 55% 的一部分,您是否採取了任何不利的利用措施,當您考慮管理庫存時開始成為順風?
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
As always, really good questions, John.
一如既往,非常好的問題,約翰。
First of all, on distribution.
首先,關於分配。
We've talked in the past that we just manage the distribution inventory really, really tightly and don't ship in until they're willing -- until they -- more or less, proven they shipped out.
我們過去曾說過,我們只是非常非常嚴格地管理分銷庫存,並且在他們願意 - 直到他們 - 或多或少地證明他們已經發貨之前不要發貨。
In terms of internal inventory, it's been a challenge for the last 3 or 4 quarters to show an improvement in inventory as the revenue is kind of suffering from the kind of lack of demand in the marketplace, but we finally caught up this quarter.
就內部庫存而言,過去 3 或 4 個季度顯示庫存改善是一個挑戰,因為收入受到市場需求不足的影響,但我們終於在本季度趕上了。
My internal target is 95 days.
我的內部目標是 95 天。
I'm not sure I can kind of get there in this coming quarter, but I would not expect our inventory to go up in terms of days.
我不確定我能否在下個季度實現這一目標,但我預計我們的庫存不會以天數增加。
So it should be somewhere between 98 and 100 days.
所以它應該在 98 到 100 天之間。
We have been hit by some utilization issues as you were suggesting in Q1, Q2 and Q3.
正如您在第一季度、第二季度和第三季度所建議的那樣,我們遇到了一些利用率問題。
And we'll see some of the relief from that in Q4.
我們將在第四季度看到一些緩解。
So yes, there you go.
所以是的,你去。
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
I think it's probably particularly worthwhile to point out, John, that as you can tell from our inventory, we've been very cautious and -- with our manufacturing operation.
約翰,我認為特別值得指出的是,正如您從我們的庫存中可以看出的那樣,我們一直非常謹慎,並且 - 對於我們的製造業務。
So we would not try to load them up to put product in inventory as we understand some of our competitors have.
因此,我們不會嘗試加載它們以將產品放入庫存,因為我們了解我們的一些競爭對手。
John William Pitzer - MD, Global Technology Strategist and Global Technology Sector Head
John William Pitzer - MD, Global Technology Strategist and Global Technology Sector Head
That's helpful.
這很有幫助。
And then, Rick, maybe as my follow up, I wondered if you could just comment a little bit about the U.S.-China trade issues.
然後,Rick,也許作為我的後續行動,我想知道你是否可以就美中貿易問題發表一點評論。
And whether or not either directly or indirectly, the Huawei ban impacted either your June quarter or September quarter either on the mobile or the infrastructure side?
華為禁令是否直接或間接影響了您的 6 月季度或 9 月季度的移動或基礎設施方面?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Yes.
是的。
So I think the trade issues between the U.S. and China, I think continue to be quite unclear.
所以我認為美國和中國之間的貿易問題,我認為仍然很不清楚。
And we really are not the most knowledgeable source of information.
而且我們確實不是最有知識的信息來源。
Relative to Huawei specific, well, we continue to follow the U.S. guidelines and trade policies.
相對於華為的具體情況,我們繼續遵循美國的指導方針和貿易政策。
We are -- we have been shipping and will ship again in Q3.
我們 - 我們一直在發貨,並將在第三季度再次發貨。
There are some limited product areas where we have U.S.-sourced technology that we have not been able to ship to Huawei at the current time.
在一些有限的產品領域,我們擁有美國採購的技術,目前我們無法向華為發貨。
But it's pretty de minimis impact, not really a significant financial impact for NXP.
但這只是微不足道的影響,對恩智浦來說並不是真正的重大財務影響。
Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from William Stein of SunTrust.
我們的下一個問題來自 SunTrust 的 William Stein。
William Stein - MD
William Stein - MD
First, I am hoping you can comment on margins or said another way, OpEx.
首先,我希望您可以評論利潤率或換一種說法,運營支出。
I think you've provided a sort of goalpost to get to 23.5% of revs spend on OpEx by Q4.
我認為您已經提供了一種目標,以便在第四季度達到 23.5% 的轉速支出用於運營支出。
I assume that's pushed out a little bit owing to the slightly slower demand you highlighted, but any update there would be helpful.
我認為由於您突出顯示的需求稍慢,因此這已被推遲了一點,但是那裡的任何更新都會有所幫助。
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
We continue to manage OpEx pretty tightly.
我們繼續非常嚴格地管理運營支出。
We're going full out to get to 16% on R&D and 7.5% for SG&A.
我們將全力以赴,以達到 16% 的研發和 7.5% 的 SG&A。
You've seen in -- both in our Q2 actual and our Q3 guidance, we do have some flexibility on what we can do.
您已經看到 - 在我們的第二季度實際和第三季度指導中,我們確實對我們可以做的事情有一定的靈活性。
And I think Rick talked in the past that we've not been replacing attrition as we go forward.
而且我認為 Rick 過去曾說過,在我們前進的過程中,我們並沒有取代減員。
And certainly, any hiring we do for new positions is very, very limited.
當然,我們為新職位所做的任何招聘都非常非常有限。
So that's helped us.
所以這對我們有幫助。
We do have some flexibility with our incentive compensation.
我們的激勵性薪酬確實具有一定的靈活性。
So reflecting the lack of growth in the businesses has had an impact on our incentive compensation.
因此,反映業務增長乏力對我們的激勵薪酬產生了影響。
And -- but on the other hand, we continue to invest aggressively in the programs that we think will drive the future success of our company.
而且 - 但另一方面,我們繼續積極投資於我們認為將推動我們公司未來成功的項目。
So you see mask charges in particular, usually a big item can move cost around from quarter-to-quarter.
因此,您會特別看到口罩費用,通常一件大件商品可以使成本從一個季度轉移到另一個季度。
So we -- absolutely, we've not given up on the 16% and 7.5%, well, and we'll either get there or get very close I think this year.
所以我們——當然,我們沒有放棄 16% 和 7.5%,好吧,我認為今年我們要么到達那裡,要么非常接近。
And talk about that for future years as well.
並在未來幾年談論這一點。
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Yes.
是的。
Well, it's probably worthwhile to add that we've also taken out low performers, several hundreds of low performers as we tried to manage our cost base in addition to the attrition Peter -- nonreplacement that Peter had talked about.
好吧,可能值得補充的是,我們還淘汰了表現不佳的人,數百名表現不佳的人,因為我們試圖管理我們的成本基礎,除了彼得談到的減員 - 非替代。
So we continue to be very tight relative to our investments and go through a lot of review of the strategic investments we are making to ensure that the timing is absolutely required, but yet, we want to be sure that we are not letting any of the growth plans and any of our customer relationships in any kind of risk or jeopardy at all.
因此,相對於我們的投資,我們繼續非常緊張,並對我們正在進行的戰略投資進行大量審查,以確保絕對需要時機,但是,我們希望確保我們不會讓任何增長計劃和我們的任何客戶關係處於任何風險或危險之中。
William Stein - MD
William Stein - MD
That's great and very helpful.
這很棒而且很有幫助。
I appreciate it.
我很感激。
If I can follow-up on the handset growth and subsequent sort of fall off in the coming quarter.
如果我能在下一季度跟進手機的增長和隨後的下降。
I thought that either last quarter or intra-quarter you had highlighted at least one other region where there was strength outside of China is -- are you seeing a broader than anticipated adoption of mobile wallet?
我認為無論是上個季度還是季度內,您都強調了至少一個在中國以外有實力的其他地區——您是否看到移動錢包的採用範圍比預期的要廣泛?
And did you see that in the quarter?
你在本季度看到了嗎?
Am I correct that there were -- there was more than just this one vendor in China you referred to?
我說的對嗎——你提到的中國不止一個供應商?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
There definitely is.
肯定有。
We've been very successful in India as we mentioned, where the mobile wallet has actually been deployed on phones as low as $25 phone.
正如我們所提到的,我們在印度非常成功,移動錢包實際上已部署在低至 25 美元的手機上。
Now in the current quarters, they already filled up their supply chain and they're kind of trying to absorb that and achieve their deployment to the market.
現在在當前幾個季度,他們已經填滿了他們的供應鏈,他們正試圖吸收這一點並實現他們對市場的部署。
So it's not nearly as significant an impact in Q2 or even the Q3 outlook as it has been earlier.
因此,它對第二季度甚至第三季度前景的影響並不像之前那樣顯著。
But it definitely represents that another significant proof point.
但這絕對代表了另一個重要的證明點。
But this customer in China, the encouraging thing was we've been very successful with them on their high-end smartphone deployments.
但是這個中國的客戶,令人鼓舞的是我們在他們的高端智能手機部署上非常成功。
And because of the success we've had with China transit and the ease of use of passengers getting on transit systems in a much more effective manner, they have now deployed this across their entire portfolio.
由於我們在中國過境方面取得的成功以及乘客以更有效的方式進入過境系統的易用性,他們現在已經在整個投資組合中部署了這一點。
And they are very aggressive in their intent and goals and increasing their position in the mobile market.
他們的意圖和目標非常積極,並提高了他們在移動市場的地位。
And so we're encouraged about being able to support them.
因此,我們很高興能夠支持他們。
But in Q2 specifically, they ramped up as they -- decision to go across the entire portfolio, we had to ramp up their supply chain and then we go through a normalization process in future quarters.
但特別是在第二季度,他們在決定擴大整個投資組合的同時增加了供應鏈,我們必須增加他們的供應鏈,然後我們在未來幾個季度經歷一個正常化的過程。
So the Q2 did have a ramp associated with that, that then falls off in Q3 for that specific customer in China.
所以第二季度確實有一個與此相關的斜坡,然後在第三季度針對中國的特定客戶而下降。
Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Stacy Rasgon of Bernstein Research.
我們的下一個問題來自 Bernstein Research 的 Stacy Rasgon。
Stacy Aaron Rasgon - Senior Analyst
Stacy Aaron Rasgon - Senior Analyst
I wanted to ask a little bit about the 3-year model.
我想問一些關於 3 年模型的問題。
That model was, I guess, starting in 2019 and going forward for a few years.
我猜這個模型是從 2019 年開始並持續幾年的。
But 2019 obviously is going to be weaker than anticipated.
但 2019 年顯然會弱於預期。
How does the weakness in 2019 affect that 3-year model at all?
2019 年的疲軟對 3 年模型有何影響?
And where does the, I guess, additional growth that would have to come in the last 2 years to make up for the weakness in the first 2, where does that growth come from?
我猜想,為了彌補前兩年的弱點,過去兩年必須出現的額外增長在哪裡,這種增長來自哪裡?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
So Stacy, it was actually 2018 through 2021, so the base share was 2018.
所以 Stacy,實際上是 2018 年到 2021 年,所以基本份額是 2018 年。
So really we don't see that being a material impact.
所以我們真的不認為這是一個實質性的影響。
I think what we could see is some of the categories, the areas that we have, changing somewhat.
我認為我們可以看到一些類別,我們擁有的領域,有些變化。
But we believe that in total, we're still on track.
但我們相信,總的來說,我們仍然在正軌上。
But we have to go through the process, and it depends obviously on how long this slowdown in industry were to continue.
但我們必須經歷這個過程,這顯然取決於行業放緩的持續時間。
But really the key for this is the design wins and the company-specific ramp in revenue that we have associated with that, where we continue to be very encouraged in the growth areas of automotive that we talked about, specifically in RADAR in the near term for level 2 and 3. The crossover processors, they continue to be a strong contributor and will continue to add more and more as we go forward in the future quarters with the increased revenue associated with that.
但真正做到這一點的關鍵是設計的勝利和我們與之相關的公司特定的收入增長,在我們談到的汽車增長領域,特別是近期的雷達領域,我們繼續受到鼓舞對於第 2 級和第 3 級。交叉處理器,它們仍然是一個強大的貢獻者,並且隨著我們在未來幾個季度的發展,與此相關的收入增加,它們將繼續增加更多。
And clearly, 5G representing an opportunity above what we actually had in the growth guidelines at that time.
顯然,5G 代表了一個高於我們當時在增長指南中實際擁有的機會。
So I think we're still in the ballpark associated with it.
所以我認為我們仍然在與它相關的範圍內。
But we clearly have to do some work and understand where -- how long it takes us to get through this industry slowdown to actually be able to confirm that, Stacy.
但我們顯然必須做一些工作並了解在哪裡 - 我們需要多長時間才能度過這個行業的放緩才能真正確認這一點,Stacy。
Stacy Aaron Rasgon - Senior Analyst
Stacy Aaron Rasgon - Senior Analyst
Got it.
知道了。
And I guess to follow up on that around auto.
我想圍繞汽車跟進。
So the auto business for the first 3 quarters of the year with the guidance down, call it like mid- to high-single digits.
因此,今年前三個季度的汽車業務在指引下調的情況下,稱其為中高個位數。
And with the strength in RADAR and BMS and some of the others that are growing quite a bit, it implies sort of the more traditional part of the portfolio is even worse than that.
隨著 RADAR 和 BMS 以及其他一些正在增長相當多的其他方面的實力,這意味著投資組合中更傳統的部分甚至比這更糟糕。
So like -- and obviously, SAAR was down this year, but it's going to be down, I don't think that much.
所以就像 - 很明顯,今年 SAAR 下降了,但它會下降,我不這麼認為。
I mean is this just inventory correction?
我的意思是這只是庫存調整嗎?
And if that's the case, I mean, is it reasonable to expect that to rebound as the inventory sort of flush out as we drive into next year?
如果是這樣的話,我的意思是,隨著我們進入明年庫存的沖刷,預期這種情況是否會反彈?
Would it be reasonable to assume that we could do better than normal next year coming off of this?
假設我們明年可以做得比正常情況更好,這是否合理?
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
Yes.
是的。
Stacy, this is Kurt.
斯泰西,這是庫爾特。
Let me try and answer that.
讓我試著回答一下。
So first of all, yes, the latest SAAR forecast, and you know that we typically use -- IHS has deteriorated unfortunately again.
所以首先,是的,最新的 SAAR 預測,你知道我們通常使用 - IHS 不幸再次惡化。
So I think a quarter ago, we talked about a 3% SAAR decline this year.
所以我認為一個季度前,我們談到今年 SAAR 下降了 3%。
The latest IHS forecast we got just 10 days ago was minus 4%.
我們在 10 天前得到的最新 IHS 預測是負 4%。
So a 4% decline.
所以下降了4%。
And actually, if you look through the reports from the big Tier 1s, so like Continental, Aaptiv, Bosch and others, they estimate more like 5%.
實際上,如果您查看大型一級供應商的報告,例如大陸、Aaptiv、博世等,他們估計更像是 5%。
Now our model still sits on IHS, which is the firm's third-party source, but indeed, it has deteriorated.
現在我們的模型仍然基於 IHS,這是該公司的第三方來源,但實際上,它已經惡化了。
Obviously, then somewhere in the minus 4% to minus 5% area.
顯然,然後在負 4% 到負 5% 區域的某個地方。
Now coming back to your question.
現在回到你的問題。
Yes, this inventory effect is something we've seen through the past cycles too, which means that the auto semi market declines stronger going into this and bouncing back stronger going out of it.
是的,這種庫存效應也是我們在過去的周期中看到的,這意味著汽車半成品市場在此期間下跌更厲害,而在之後反彈則更強勁。
The question is obviously, when is that moment of change of direction, which I don't dare to forecast.
很明顯,問題是什麼時候改變方向,我不敢預測。
The only thing I would tell you is that if you look on an annual growth basis into our quarters, then in quarter 2, we did report a minus 10% decline in automotive.
我唯一要告訴你的是,如果你看一下我們季度的年增長率,那麼在第二季度,我們確實報告了汽車行業的負 10% 下降。
And the quarter 3 guide, which we just gave you is now minus 7%.
我們剛剛給您的第三季度指南現在是負 7%。
So we see, at least from a Q2 -- or against Q2 comparison perspective annually, it's getting slightly better.
所以我們看到,至少從第二季度或每年第二季度比較的角度來看,它正在變得稍微好一些。
If this is the indication of things really moving out, I don't know.
如果這表明事情真的正在發生變化,我不知道。
But at least also the SAAR is reported by IHS in the second half to get slightly better, less by China, because China seasonally always has a much better second half than the first half.
但至少 IHS 報告的 SAAR 在下半年也略有好轉,而中國則較少,因為中國的下半年總是比上半年好得多。
And IHS is thinking about a 14% second half over first half growth in auto production in China.
IHS 正在考慮下半年中國汽車產量將比上半年增長 14%。
I don't know if that is true, but certainly directionally, it should be right that this is changing now second half to first half.
我不知道這是否屬實,但肯定是有方向的,現在下半年到上半年的變化應該是正確的。
Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Ross Seymore of Deutsche Bank.
我們的下一個問題來自德意志銀行的羅斯·西莫爾。
Ross Clark Seymore - MD
Ross Clark Seymore - MD
Thanks for letting me ask a question.
謝謝你讓我問一個問題。
And I want to focus on the industrial and IoT side of things.
我想專注於工業和物聯網方面。
I know the crossover processors are a great source of growth and you guys have been in line with your guidance in the last quarter and seem to be accelerating seasonally in the third quarter.
我知道跨界處理器是一個重要的增長來源,你們在上個季度一直遵循你們的指導,並且似乎在第三季度出現季節性加速。
But overall, it's still down about 15% year-over-year.
但總體而言,它仍同比下降約 15%。
Can you talk a little bit about what's weighing on that?
你能談談這有什麼影響嗎?
Is it just the inventory burn in the channel or is there anything else?
只是渠道中的庫存燒毀還是其他原因?
And how do you expect that growth to resume, somewhat similar to the last question, once that inventory burn is done, is there kind of a supersized re-acceleration as the channel starts to refill?
你預計增長將如何恢復,有點類似於最後一個問題,一旦庫存消耗完成,隨著渠道開始重新填充,是否會出現超大規模的重新加速?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
So Ross, I think you're absolutely right.
所以羅斯,我認為你是完全正確的。
If you look at it, our industrial and IoT for the last couple of quarters have been down around 14% year-over-year.
如果你看一下,過去幾個季度我們的工業和物聯網同比下降了 14% 左右。
And our guidance, while up 8% in Q3, would still be down around that same level year-over-year.
我們的指引雖然在第三季度增長了 8%,但仍將同比下降大約相同的水平。
I think -- I don't think that we can be specific on the inventory levels.
我認為 - 我認為我們不能具體說明庫存水平。
You got to remember that on the industrial and IoT, probably 80% of that goes through the distribution channel.
您必須記住,在工業和物聯網中,可能有 80% 是通過分銷渠道。
And so we're really kind of at the mercy, if you will, of our distribution partners to understand what's happening with the customers.
因此,如果您願意的話,我們真的有點受制於我們的分銷合作夥伴,以了解客戶的情況。
There is not any perception of ongoing inventory, it's really this quagmiring what I said last quarter, the market is kind of frozen, specifically in China with the fear about what's going to happen in the trade tensions.
對持續的庫存沒有任何看法,這真的讓我上個季度所說的陷入困境,市場有點凍結,特別是在中國,擔心貿易緊張局勢會發生什麼。
And we don't see a significant improvement overall, although I do think we see a little bit of improvement in China.
而且我們總體上沒有看到顯著的改善,儘管我確實認為我們在中國看到了一些改善。
But at the same time, we've seen a weakening in Europe and the U.S., that kind of offsets that.
但與此同時,我們看到歐洲和美國的疲軟,這抵消了這一點。
So in total, we're kind of in the same position in industrial and IoT.
所以總的來說,我們在工業和物聯網方面處於相同的位置。
Now at the same point, as you look at the new design wins that we have in the crossover areas, as those begin to ramp, we should see a revenue contribution from that.
現在同時,當你看到我們在跨界領域獲得的新設計勝利時,隨著那些開始增加,我們應該會看到由此帶來的收入貢獻。
But that's going to be at a slow rate and it will be a positive contribution, but it won't move the needle significantly on any individual quarter.
但這將是一個緩慢的速度,這將是一個積極的貢獻,但它不會對任何一個季度產生重大影響。
It's more of the cumulative impact of those design wins and how they get deployed in the market, which clearly, should put us in a better position as we go out a few quarters.
更多的是這些設計勝利的累積影響以及它們如何在市場上部署,這顯然應該讓我們在幾個季度後處於更好的位置。
Ross Clark Seymore - MD
Ross Clark Seymore - MD
Okay.
好的。
That's helpful.
這很有幫助。
And for my follow-up, I just want to switch over to the comm infrastructure and others segment.
對於我的後續工作,我只想切換到通信基礎設施和其他部分。
You talked about the 5G side pausing a bit.
你談到了 5G 方面有點停頓。
Can you just walk through how you see that rolling out for the different stages of 5G?
您能否簡單介紹一下您如何看待 5G 不同階段的推出?
And maybe remind us what percentage roughly of that kind of 21%, 22% of your total revenues in that segment, the comm infrastructure side truly represents?
也許提醒我們,在您在該細分市場的總收入的 21%、22% 中,通信基礎設施方面真正代表了多少百分比?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Yes, on a percentage of that, it's...
是的,按百分比計算,它是...
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
It's probably 2/3, yes, between the RF Power and the Digital Networking business.
是的,可能是 RF 電源和數字網絡業務之間的 2/3。
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Yes, if you include Digital Networking associated with this, because it's probably about 1/2 for the RF Power, just slightly under 1/2 based on the growth we've seen.
是的,如果您包括與此相關的數字網絡,因為它可能約為 RF 功率的 1/2,根據我們所看到的增長略低於 1/2。
But really the growth that we've seen, Ross, has been in the massive MIMO deployment, where they're expanding the capacity associated with their installed infrastructure.
但羅斯,我們真正看到的增長是大規模 MIMO 部署,他們正在擴大與已安裝基礎設施相關的容量。
And now, in the future, when they move to 5G deployments, they can upgrade that with a software deployment to be able to facilitate 5G.
現在,在未來,當他們轉向 5G 部署時,他們可以通過軟件部署對其進行升級,以便能夠促進 5G。
So really what we're seeing that's creating a significant increase in revenue has been the massive MIMO deployment and not 5G per se.
因此,我們真正看到的帶來顯著收入增長的是大規模 MIMO 部署,而不是 5G 本身。
We've seen some 5G impact, but it's really been much more significantly weighted towards massive MIMO.
我們已經看到了一些 5G 的影響,但它確實更顯著地偏重於大規模 MIMO。
And we basically have a pause as we've been saying that we would anticipate a pause after our customers are ramping up their supply chain.
我們基本上有一個暫停,因為我們一直在說我們預計在我們的客戶增加他們的供應鏈之後會暫停。
We still see very positive scenario in what's going on and clearly continue deployment through the rest of this year and next year in massive MIMO, and believe our success is quite positive in that area.
我們仍然看到正在發生的事情非常積極,並且顯然在今年和明年的剩餘時間裡繼續部署大規模 MIMO,並相信我們在該領域的成功是非常積極的。
And then we would anticipate seeing the 5G ramp itself happening much more strongly in 2020.
然後我們預計到 2020 年會看到 5G 斜坡本身發生得更加強烈。
And that kind of depends on when it gets rolled out in China.
這取決於它何時在中國推出。
We've seen some pull in of the rollout of 5G base stations in China as they appear to want to accelerate their 5G deployment.
我們已經看到中國推出了一些 5G 基站,因為他們似乎希望加快 5G 部署。
Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Vivek Arya from Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
我們的下一個問題來自美銀美林的 Vivek Arya。
Vivek Arya - Director
Vivek Arya - Director
I had two as well.
我也有兩個。
First on gross margins.
首先是毛利率。
I believe, Peter, you mentioned that you're still kind of targeting 55% exiting Q4, so that would be about 130 basis points or so sequential improvement.
我相信,彼得,你提到你仍然以 55% 的目標退出第四季度,所以這將是大約 130 個基點左右的連續改進。
I'm curious what are the puts and takes around that?
我很好奇什麼是看跌期權?
What kind of revenue or mix assumptions underlie that?
什麼樣的收入或混合假設是其基礎?
Because usually, your Q4, that has been up some years, it's been down some years.
因為通常情況下,您的第四季度已經上升了幾年,下降了幾年。
If I assume it's flat, that would signal some year-on-year sales decline.
如果我假設它持平,那將表明銷售額同比有所下降。
So I'm just curious to understand what is the sensitivity of gross margins to that kind of revenue profile?
所以我只是想知道毛利率對這種收入狀況的敏感性是什麼?
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
Peter Kelly - CFO, Executive VP of Strategy, M&A and Integration
Well, what I have talked about in the past, I've said based on a flat revenue from Q4 '18 to Q4 '19, we would move up from 53% to 55%.
好吧,我過去說過的話,我說過根據 18 年第四季度到 19 年第四季度的穩定收入,我們將從 53% 上升到 55%。
And I talked about we saw some headwinds -- normal headwinds from price of ASP and they'd be offset by mix.
我談到我們看到了一些不利因素——來自 ASP 價格的正常不利因素,它們會被混合抵消。
So we had about 230 basis points of self help.
所以我們有大約 230 個基點的自助。
And I think just over half of that was in supplier pricing or maybe just less than half.
我認為其中一半以上是供應商定價,或者可能不到一半。
So where am I at the moment?
那麼我現在在哪裡?
So at the moment, I'm really, really confident on the self-help part.
所以目前,我對自助部分非常非常有信心。
So I think that's in the bag and we've started to see some of the impacts of that from Q1 into Q2, and Q2 into Q3.
所以我認為這是在包裡,我們已經開始看到從第一季度到第二季度,從第二季度到第三季度的一些影響。
I -- at the moment, I really don't know where we'll end up on revenue.
我 - 目前,我真的不知道我們最終會在哪裡獲得收入。
As we said in our comments, although the situation hasn't gotten worse, it's -- versus where we were 90 days ago, it hasn't strengthened, and we feel a little bit more uncomfortable with -- than we did then.
正如我們在評論中所說,儘管情況沒有變得更糟,但與 90 天前相比,情況並沒有加強,我們感到更不舒服 - 比我們當時的情況。
So flat revenue, I'd say, 55% is in the bag.
所以我想說,55% 的收入是固定的。
The revenue is not flat off Q4.
第四季度的收入並不平坦。
Then previously we've said, and it's a very, very rough guideline, a 5% drop in revenue is about 100 basis points of impact to gross margin.
然後我們之前說過,這是一個非常非常粗略的指導方針,收入下降 5% 對毛利率的影響約為 100 個基點。
But it really depends on what the mix of the change is and is it internal or external?
但這真的取決於變化的組合是什麼,是內部的還是外部的?
So it's not an absolute.
所以不是絕對的。
So I guess, in terms of things I have under our control, very, very confident, incrementally more confident than I was 3 months ago, but we'll need to wait and see how the revenue plays out for Q4.
所以我想,就我所控制的事情而言,非常非常有信心,比三個月前更有信心,但我們需要等待,看看第四季度的收入如何。
Definitely think we've done the right thing structurally and hopefully is in good shape for when things come back.
絕對認為我們在結構上做了正確的事情,並希望在事情恢復時狀態良好。
Vivek Arya - Director
Vivek Arya - Director
And for my follow-up, I'm curious about the 30% of your business in automotive tied to ADAS and electrification where you -- I think breaking the past, set at 25%, 30% growth target.
對於我的後續行動,我很好奇你們 30% 的汽車業務與 ADAS 和電氣化相關——我認為打破了過去,設定了 25%、30% 的增長目標。
And how did that do in Q2 and what are the trends in the second half?
第二季度的情況如何?下半年的趨勢是什麼?
Do you think the macro environment is impacting that growth part of the auto's business or there is a secular aspect to it?
您認為宏觀環境是否正在影響汽車業務的增長部分,還是存在長期影響?
And that is still continuing for your original targets?
對於您的原始目標,這仍在繼續嗎?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
I'll make a couple of comments and I'll let Kurt talk.
我會發表一些評論,然後讓 Kurt 談談。
I think the fact that -- the thing is as we see clearly a softness in auto demand, it does have some impact on those growth areas as well.
我認為事實是——我們清楚地看到汽車需求疲軟,它也對這些增長領域產生了一些影響。
They're not ramping up quite as fast, they still are growing very significantly, but not quite as fast as we would have anticipated originally.
它們的增長速度並沒有那麼快,它們仍然在顯著增長,但沒有我們最初預期的那麼快。
So it does have some impact, but clearly, we see a strong growth associated with those areas, and specifically, RADAR.
所以它確實有一些影響,但很明顯,我們看到與這些領域相關的強勁增長,特別是雷達。
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
Yes, Rick.
是的,瑞克。
So clearly, we do confirm double-digit growth.
很明顯,我們確實確認了兩位數的增長。
I mean, we did achieve that in Q2 as expected.
我的意思是,我們確實在第二季度實現了預期。
But versus -- SAAR being maybe then more in the minus 5% area versus a 0% or plus 2%, obviously, there is some impact.
但是與 - SAAR 可能更多地處於負 5% 區域,而不是 0% 或正 2%,顯然會有一些影響。
But -- I mean, this is nothing of any relevance for the mid to longer term because the rents are still very much dependent on penetration of the functionality as Rick had laid out for RADAR in the -- in his prepared remarks.
但是——我的意思是,這與中長期沒有任何關係,因為租金仍然在很大程度上取決於 Rick 在他準備好的評論中為 RADAR 制定的功能的滲透。
So over and above, we are very confident to continue to expect 25% to 30% revenue growth over the next 3 years in that portion of the auto business.
因此,除此之外,我們非常有信心繼續預計未來 3 年該部分汽車業務的收入將增長 25% 至 30%。
And I just want to remind you, again, that it's mainly ADAS, RADAR, digital clusters and somewhat later because it comes today from a smaller base, the battery management business.
我只是想再次提醒您,它主要是 ADAS、雷達、數字集群,並且稍晚一些,因為它今天來自一個較小的基礎,即電池管理業務。
Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Blayne Curtis of Barclays.
我們的下一個問題來自巴克萊銀行的 Blayne Curtis。
Blayne Peter Curtis - Director & Senior Research Analyst
Blayne Peter Curtis - Director & Senior Research Analyst
I have two.
我有兩個。
Just one, just on the OpEx side.
只有一個,就在運營支出方面。
I noticed you moved about $80 million to asset held-for-sale, I know it's fairly small.
我注意到您將大約 8000 萬美元轉移到持有待售資產,我知道這相當小。
Just wondering if you could comment on that or if you can't, just maybe just strategically any comments on that kind of initiative?
只是想知道您是否可以對此發表評論,或者如果您不能,也許只是戰略性地對這種倡議發表評論?
And then you mentioned UWB, maybe -- sounds like that will get maybe some adoption on the mobile side this year in the market.
然後你提到了UWB,也許——聽起來這可能會在今年的移動端市場上得到一些採用。
I'm just kind of curious for you, when you see that ramping and see any way you can kind of size that market?
我只是對你有點好奇,當你看到這種增長並看到你可以用什麼方式來衡量這個市場?
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
No.
不。
So the asset held-for-sale, we can't tell you specifically what it is.
所以持有待售的資產,我們不能具體告訴你它是什麼。
But we're doing due diligence to dispose of a very small part of our business at the moment.
但我們目前正在盡職調查出售我們業務的一小部分。
And hopefully, we'll wrap that up before the end of the year.
希望我們能在今年年底之前完成。
So we moved that asset to held-for-sale.
因此,我們將該資產移至待售。
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
And it's nonstrategic and a business that we just felt was better off being in somebody else's hands than ours.
這是非戰略性的,我們只是覺得在別人手中比在我們手中更好的業務。
On Ultra-Wideband, it really won't start shipping till 2020, not this year.
在超寬帶上,它真的要到 2020 年才開始發貨,而不是今年。
And we're extremely excited about the opportunity there.
我們對那裡的機會感到非常興奮。
In fact, I'm going to let Kurt make some comments on that as well.
事實上,我也會讓 Kurt 對此發表一些評論。
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
Yes.
是的。
So it's really a ecosystem play which leverages in an excellent way our strong foothold from a technology end market perspective and secure cars as well as mobile transactions and security.
因此,這確實是一個生態系統遊戲,它以極好的方式利用我們從技術終端市場的角度和安全汽車以及移動交易和安全性的強大立足點。
Revenue impact, we will start to see by mid of next year ramping.
收入影響,我們將在明年年中開始看到增長。
We think this will be a market which is almost $1 billion in 2024.
我們認為這將是一個到 2024 年接近 10 億美元的市場。
And as Rick explained earlier, with our first-mover advantage, with our strong foothold and creation of the ecosystem itself, we do think we will have a leading market share in that field.
正如 Rick 之前解釋的那樣,憑藉我們的先發優勢、強大的立足點和生態系統本身的創造,我們確實認為我們將在該領域擁有領先的市場份額。
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
So very exciting, Blayne.
非常令人興奮,布萊恩。
Operator
Operator
And our next question comes from Matt Ramsay of Cowen.
我們的下一個問題來自 Cowen 的 Matt Ramsay。
Matthew D. Ramsay - MD & Senior Technology Analyst
Matthew D. Ramsay - MD & Senior Technology Analyst
I just wanted to follow-up to the last question there on UWB.
我只是想跟進關於 UWB 的最後一個問題。
Kurt, maybe you could talk a little bit about what other standards are out there that are competing with UWB?
Kurt,也許您可以談談與 UWB 競爭的其他標準嗎?
And then on the flip side, are there other ecosystem partners and potentially other chipmakers that are involved such that this could be an industry-wide standard as it rolls out?
另一方面,是否還有其他生態系統合作夥伴和潛在的其他芯片製造商參與其中,以便在推出時成為行業範圍的標準?
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
Yes.
是的。
So on the standard side, there is an IEEE initiative underway for a very firm standardization of the physical layer hardware protocol to make sure that indeed different vendors can ship competitor product.
因此,在標準方面,IEEE 正在製定一項非常嚴格的物理層硬件協議標準化計劃,以確保不同的供應商確實可以提供競爭對手的產品。
That has been underway for a while.
這已經進行了一段時間。
It is supported by all the key companies through the whole value chain.
它通過整個價值鏈得到所有關鍵公司的支持。
So clearly, any ingredients from our experience, which is needed for a successful connectivity side, is fully in place.
很明顯,我們經驗中的任何要素,對於成功的連接方面來說,都是完全到位的。
Relative to competing technologies of standard, the only one which directionally comes somewhere in the proximity, but really doesn't get there really is Bluetooth low energy, which has some ranging capability, but it lacks by far the precision of Ultra-Wideband.
相對於標準的競爭技術,唯一一個有方向性地靠近某個地方,但實際上並沒有真正到達那裡的是藍牙低功耗,它具有一定的測距能力,但它遠遠缺乏超寬帶的精度。
So I just want to reiterate, the key feature of Ultra-Wideband is it measures time of flight and through that it can detect exactly where the communicating options are relative to each other.
所以我只想重申,超寬帶的關鍵特性是它可以測量飛行時間,並通過它可以準確地檢測到通信選項相對於彼此的位置。
So it's all about distance -- precision in distance measurement.
所以這一切都與距離有關——距離測量的精度。
Bluetooth low energy can do a little bit of that, but it's far from it from a precision spec.
低功耗藍牙可以做到這一點,但與精確規格相差甚遠。
That's why our key partners along the value chain have clearly decided for Ultra-Wideband.
這就是為什麼我們價值鏈上的主要合作夥伴已經明確決定採用超寬帶。
I mean it's a very, very clear and definitive choice in that field.
我的意思是,在該領域,這是一個非常、非常明確和明確的選擇。
The other one which maybe didn't come across clearly, a lot of this has to do with security.
另一個可能沒有清楚地看到,這在很大程度上與安全有關。
So we always play in door access or car access applications which we are seeing here, together with our secure element.
因此,我們總是使用我們在這裡看到的門禁或汽車訪問應用程序,以及我們的安全元件。
So it is the combination of the secure element and the Ultra-Wideband connectivity technology which makes the use case fly in.
因此,正是安全元件和超寬帶連接技術的結合使用例飛速發展。
That combination, I dare to say, is pretty unique.
我敢說,這種組合非常獨特。
Matthew D. Ramsay - MD & Senior Technology Analyst
Matthew D. Ramsay - MD & Senior Technology Analyst
Got you.
得到你。
Just as a quick follow-up, I continue to get the question from investors, so I will bring it up again, the visibility towards doubling the Marvell revenue run rate of the business you're acquiring.
作為快速跟進,我繼續從投資者那裡得到問題,所以我將再次提出它,你所收購的業務的 Marvell 收入運行率翻倍的可見性。
If you guys have any more color on design win pipeline visibility, or I guess, the focus WiFi 6. It's just a question that keeps coming up, so I'm just relaying it along.
如果你們有更多關於設計贏得管道可見性的顏色,或者我猜,焦點 WiFi 6。這只是一個不斷出現的問題,所以我只是轉發它。
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Sure.
當然。
I think our confidence comes from the combination of the portfolio, their leading technology in WiFi 6, our broad-based distribution channel that's much more broad-based than Marvell, while Marvell has a fine distribution channel, our position in distribution clearly puts us in a better basis.
我認為我們的信心來自於產品組合的組合,他們在 WiFi 6 方面的領先技術,我們基礎廣泛的分銷渠道,其基礎比 Marvell 廣泛得多,而 Marvell 擁有良好的分銷渠道,我們在分銷方面的地位顯然使我們處於更好的基礎。
And the fact is as we talk about our processing customers, 2/3 of our design wins have had WiFi connectivity associated with it.
事實上,當我們談到我們的處理客戶時,我們 2/3 的設計勝利都與 WiFi 連接相關聯。
And being able to supply a WiFi 6 solution in combination with our processing puts us in a really unique position to be able to grow that business much faster.
能夠提供與我們的處理相結合的 WiFi 6 解決方案使我們處於一個非常獨特的位置,能夠更快地發展該業務。
So I think all of those things are the combination that really gives us the ability to project doubling that business in a relatively short period of time.
所以我認為所有這些都是真正讓我們有能力在相對較短的時間內將業務翻番的組合。
And the reason why it was so critical to us to be able to meet our customers' requirements.
以及滿足客戶要求對我們如此重要的原因。
We're very fortunate to have the funds available from the Qualcomm breakup fee to be able to put connectivity in place.
我們很幸運能夠從高通分手費中獲得資金,以便能夠建立連接。
And so we're looking forward to closing the transaction, so we can offer a complete solution for our customers.
因此,我們期待完成交易,以便為客戶提供完整的解決方案。
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
So let me maybe just add that now where we're someway into this process, also with customers.
所以讓我也許只是補充一點,現在我們在某種程度上進入了這個過程,也包括客戶。
Clearly, the customer reactions are very positive and very reconfirming on the fit of the portfolio complementary nature of WiFi 6 with our app store to them.
顯然,客戶的反應非常積極,並且非常確認 WiFi 6 的產品組合互補性與我們的應用商店對他們的契合度。
So what was theory in the first place?
那麼,什麼是理論?
Obviously, we get now more specific feedback from customers and that's both for industrial as well as for auto is very reconfirming to the numbers which we have put out.
顯然,我們現在從客戶那裡得到了更具體的反饋,無論是工業還是汽車,都非常再次證實了我們公佈的數字。
Operator
Operator
And our last question comes from Toshiya Hari of Goldman Sachs.
我們的最後一個問題來自高盛的 Toshiya Hari。
Toshiya Hari - MD
Toshiya Hari - MD
I just had one on capital allocation.
我只有一個關於資本配置的。
After the Marvell acquisition, assuming a close in line with the schedule, how should we think about the balance between M&A and dividends and buybacks?
收購 Marvell 後,假設按期完成,我們應該如何考慮併購與分紅和回購之間的平衡?
Would it be fair to assume that you feel like your technology and IP portfolio is somewhat complete post Marvell?
假設您覺得您的技術和 IP 組合在 Marvell 之後有些完整,這是否公平?
Or would M&A continue to play a critical role in your strategy?
還是併購會繼續在您的戰略中發揮關鍵作用?
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Richard L. Clemmer - CEO & Executive Director
Yes.
是的。
Thanks.
謝謝。
I think we have most of the critical components that we really feel like we need going forward.
我認為我們擁有我們真正需要的大部分關鍵組件。
I'm sure that we will always have some tuck-in acquisitions that we need to do to either strengthen the technical position or with some other pieces that happen, but the Marvell acquisition on the connectivity side is clearly one that was significant and one that we were getting a lot of demand from our customers.
我敢肯定,我們總是會進行一些收購,以加強技術地位或發生其他一些事情,但在連接方面的 Marvell 收購顯然是一項意義重大的收購。我們從客戶那裡得到了很多需求。
So I think that really builds out the -- most of the requirement.
所以我認為這確實構建了大部分要求。
I think as we look at analog attach, we are trying to see what we can do to improve that.
我認為當我們研究模擬附加時,我們正在嘗試看看我們可以做些什麼來改進它。
That's a focus area for us.
這對我們來說是一個重點領域。
Fortunately, we have a lot of internal capability associated with that, specifically in the PMIC area that we can ship alongside of our processing capability to drive a complete solution.
幸運的是,我們有很多與此相關的內部能力,特別是在 PMIC 領域,我們可以將其與我們的處理能力一起提供以驅動完整的解決方案。
But I think, you're absolutely right.
但我認為,你是絕對正確的。
Most of our focus on the cash return post the Marvell transaction will be focused on share repurchase and our dividend as we move forward.
在 Marvell 交易後,我們對現金回報的大部分關注將集中在股票回購和我們前進的股息上。
And we've talked about that we would anticipate or plan to increase our dividend on an annual basis moving it up to more in line with our normal industrial -- semiconductor industry peers.
我們已經談到,我們預計或計劃每年增加我們的股息,使其更符合我們正常的工業 - 半導體行業同行。
So thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning.
謝謝大家,今天早上加入我們。
We clearly felt like that we had a good performance in Q2.
我們清楚地覺得我們在第二季度有很好的表現。
And while we see improvements off that Q2 base continuing, they are not at the same rate we would have anticipated 90 days ago, as we have seen a little bit of reset in the marketplace based on the continued trade friction and the uncertainty that's now beginning to have an impact in other regions of the world as well.
雖然我們看到第二季度基數的改善仍在繼續,但它們與我們在 90 天前預期的速度不同,因為我們已經看到基於持續的貿易摩擦和現在開始的不確定性在市場上進行了一些調整對世界其他地區也產生影響。
But we're encouraged about our design wins and the portfolio we have and continuing to be in a position to outgrow the market going forward and create -- and continue to increase significant shareholder value.
但我們對我們的設計勝利和我們擁有的投資組合感到鼓舞,並繼續能夠超越市場並創造 - 並繼續增加顯著的股東價值。
Thank you very much.
非常感謝你。
Kurt Sievers - President
Kurt Sievers - President
Thank you, everyone.
謝謝大家。
I appreciate your attendance today.
感謝您今天的出席。
Have a good day.
祝你有美好的一天。
Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference.
女士們,先生們,感謝你們參加今天的會議。
This concludes today's program.
今天的節目到此結束。
You may all disconnect.
你們都可以斷開連接。