諾基亞 (NOK) 2007 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the NAVTEQ Corporation first quarter 2007 earnings conference call.

My name is Tanya, and I'll be your coordinator for today.

At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode.

We will be facilitating a question and answer session towards the end of today's conference.

(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) As a reminder, his, conference is being recorded for replay purposes.

I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's conference, Mr.

Tom Fox, Director of Investor Relations.

Good afternoon, everyone.

This is Tom Fox, Director of Investor Relations at NAVTEQ.

Welcome to our conference call to discuss financial results for the first quarter ended April 1, 2007.

With me today are Judson Green, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Dave Mullen, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

By now, you should have received a copy of our earnings release, which was distributed earlier over the wire.

Today's call is available via Webcast and is being recorded.

Information on the replay and the Webcast is available in the release and on the Investor Relations section of our Website at www.navteq.com.

Today's Webcast also includes a Power Point slide presentation, which you may access in the News and Events section of our IR Website.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of the statements made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the private Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

These statements are based on management's current expectations, assumptions and projections about NAVTEQ at the time that the statements are made.

Such statements may include, but are not limited to, expectations of future financial performance and operating results, growth in unit volume, our share of business, penetration rates, product release schedules for NAVTEQ and our customers, the decline of our distribution units and the results of the integration of acquisitions.

The forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may cause the actual results to differ materially from our past performance and our current expectations and projections.

For a discussion of these risks and factors that may effect future performance, please review the reports filed by NAVTEQ with the SEC.

In particular, note the risk factors set forth under item 1A, Risk Factors, in the Company's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2006.

NAVTEQ disclaims any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law.

We will begin today's call with some opening remarks from Judson.

Then Dave will walk you through additional details on the quarter.

Judson will add a few closing remarks.

And finally, we will take your questions.

During the question and answer session, we would ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up.

If you have additional questions, please reenter the queue.

We'll finish the call at 6:00 p.m.

Eastern Time.

I would now like to turn the call over to Judson.

Thanks, Tom.

Good afternoon, everybody, and thank you for joining us.

I am pleased to report to you a very successful quarter for the Company.

Our revenue of $160 million set a new record for first quarter performance and grew 31% over the prior year.

Excluding the impact of foreign currency and revenue from our recent Traffic.com and Map Network acquisitions, revenue grew 20% over the prior year.

Further, excluding the distribution business, which was flat in the quarter compared to the prior year, base business revenue was up approximately 25% on a currency-neutral basis.

Operating income of $38.3 million increased 85% over the first quarter of last year.

And net income for the quarter was $30.2 million or $0.31 per diluted share.

Net cash provided by operating activities was $79.1 million for the first quarter of 2007, compared to $14.4 million in the first quarter last year.

The significant increase was due to growth in net income, the successful collection of accounts receivable and the receipt of a large prepayment from a customer.

After funding the Traffic.com acquisition, we ended the quarter with $348 million in cash and marketable securities and no debt.

As indicated in the press release, European revenue grew 14% in the quarter but was up 5% on a constant currency basis.

And revenue for the Americas grew 61% over the prior year.

Excluding the impact of the two acquisitions, Americas revenue grew 49%.

Asia-Pacific revenue, which comes from our Korean subsidiary, was $1.9 million in the quarter, compared to $1.8 million a year-ago.

While I am pleased with the Q1 results, the performance was somewhat unusual due to a number of factors that may not have the same impact on results for the balance of the year.

Dave will discuss these factors in more detail in a few moments.

Nevertheless, there's much to be excited about in terms of the business fundamentals.

And now I would like to spend a few moments talking about Q1 developments in each of the major revenue areas.

Beginning first with in-dash.

The first quarter has typically been a seasonally weak period for the in-dash business.

Our European in-dash revenue was down only slightly compared to the prior year.

The decline was primarily due to timing differences in shipments of units and a lower mix of distribution units compared to the prior year.

If not for the shipment delay, European in-dash revenue would have been up slightly in the quarter.

We still expect revenue growth for this business on a full-year basis.

Overall, car sales in western Europe were down 1% compared to first quarter of last year.

Car sales in Germany were actually 9% lower than the prior year due to an increase in the value-added-tax, or VAT, which became effective on January 1 and probably caused some car buyers to make their purchases in Q4 of last year.

With respect to key models for navigation, sales of the BMW 5 series and X5 were somewhat depressed, probably due to a scheduled redesign in the first quarter.

Sales of the Mercedes-Benz E Class were up 24% when compared to its weak sales in the first quarter of 2006.

But the S class was down 13% from the prior year.

The Audi A4, A6 and A8 were down in quarter as well, but the launch of the new Audi A5 actually drove an overall sales increase at Audi.

Adoption, or the percentage of cars sold that offer navigation, remains above 80% in western Europe.

Navigation take rates are growing modestly, as we expected, in virtually all vehicle categories.

In the North American in-dash business, we saw healthy double-digit increases in both units and revenue.

The growth was due to the substantial increase in adoption compared to the prior year.

In Q1 alone, in-dash navigation was launched for the first time on 13 models, including a number of compact SUV's, such as the Jeep Wrangler, Ford Escape, Mercury Mariner, Mazda Tribute and Mitsubishi Endeavor.

On a full-year basis, we expect adoption of nearly 70% North America.

Overall car sales in North America actually declined about 2% in Q1 compared to the prior year.

Consumers continued to demonstrate a preference for smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles, which generally have much lower navigation take rates.

Compared to the first quarter of 2006, luxury car sales were down 12%.

Mini vans and pickup trucks were down 5%.

And even mid-sized sedan sales dropped 8%.

The only significant growth was in the compact car and compact SUV segments, which were up 7% and 16% respectively.

Take rates are growing modestly in most car segments.

However, surging adoption does have a dampening effect on the overall take rate as a number of smaller, less expensive models offer the option for the first time.

With respect to portable devices, while the first quarter historically has not been a strong sales period for the consumer electronics industry in general, this year's first quarter was considerably better, at least for our business.

We received a number of strong royalty reports, as our customers were apparently shipping to restock retail shelves in December and January, following a successful holiday shopping season.

During which, GPS device were among the fastest growing consumer technology product sectors.

One point of clarification, it is important to remember that our portable device units reflect not only maps for PND's, but also onboard maps for mobile phones and PDA's.

In Europe, Q1 map unit volume from a number of portable customers was higher than we anticipated.

And Nokia began shipping its PND, the Nokia 330, ahead of schedule.

During the quarter, Nokia also announced the new 6110 navigator phone with NAVTEQ data.

This phone will ship with a navigation-ready country map on board every unit and will be available in 60 countries around the world.

PDA-related products, which have been declining for the past several quarters, accounted for just 2% of our European portable map units in Q1, down from 14% a year-ago and 67% in the first quarter of 2005.

Portables in North America also performed extremely well.

We saw robust growth across a number of customers and early signs point to another terrific year for PND's in the U.S.

Before I move on, I wanted to make you aware of a change in NAVTEQ's business with TomTom.

As many of you know, our map was chosen last year to enable one of TomTom's new products, the TomTom One Europe, which began shipping at September 2006.

Recently, we were notified that beginning in Q3 of this year, NAVTEQ maps will no longer be used on the TomTom One Europe.

We have been assured that the decision to switch to our competitor had nothing to do with the quality of our database or our service.

With respect to the wireless business, we announced the winners of the Fourth Annual NAVTEQ Global LBS Challenge at the 3GSM show in Barcelona in February and at the CTI A Wireless Show in Orlando in March.

We received 340 applications from interested developers in this year's contest, up from roughly 250 in the prior year and had a total of 25 semi-finalists on both continents.

The semi-finalists were evaluated by judges that included executives from wireless carriers and handset manufacturers, analysts from leading market research firms and other industry experts.

Over 800 LBS applications have been submitted for consideration since the challenge began four years ago.

It has been rewarding for us to play a leadership role in the evolution of the LBS space and we look forward to the fifth installment of the challenge, which will kickoff at the CTIA Wireless Show this fall.

With respect to the integration of our two most recent acquisitions.

IT and business systems integration of the Map Network is substantially complete and we are now working on integrating its destination content into our map database.

As for Traffic.com, the transaction closed on March 6.

We have made good progress on our integration plan and to this point we have not encountered any significant obstacles.

We have taken immediate steps to rationalize overlapping administrative personnel and are in the process of integrating the traffic operations infrastructure.

We expect this to be complete by the end of the year.

Sales efforts have also been an area of focus and we are leveraging the relationships and capabilities of both companies to win new business.

Traffic.com also made a recent announcement regarding a new relationship with the broadcast division of the Associated Press, the world's largest news gathering organization.

The multiyear agreement provides Traffic.com with AP's 10-second advertising inventory for radio and television stations across the U.S.

Broadening the geographic reach of our advertising packages and thereby increasing the appeal to national advertisers.

Turning to coverage and content news.

We released Thailand during the first quarter, which brings our total navigable coverage to 60 countries and territories around the world.

During the quarter, we released a new visual content suite designed to enhance the navigation experience.

Three dimensional models of major cities and landmarks within those cities provide not only a more attractive visual representation of the road network but also relevant navigation cues for the user.

These new premium priced visual content products are consistent with NAVTEQ's single global database specification, which enables our customers to come to market quickly with new features.

The Map Network launched maps for the new Smithsonian Consumer Website, which you can view at gosmithsonian.com and produced 3 million printed Go Smithsonian guides.

For this project, we developed floor plans and exhibit layouts for all 16 Smithsonian museums, including the National Zoo, and added adjacent city content through our relationship with the Washington, DC Convention and Tourism Corporation.

We secured several pieces of new in-dash and portable business during the quarter.

Three of which I am pleased to share with you today.

First, Hyundai, the world's seventh largest auto maker, has selected NAVTEQ as its map provider for all Hyundai and Kia vehicle models offering navigation.

This decision is especially noteworthy, as Hyundai is the only top 10 OEM to have never previously offered navigation in western Europe or North America.

The first vehicle to use our maps was actually a Kia model, which was launched in Europe in December.

Second, BMW agreed to launch a pan-European map update program beginning this month.

More importantly, the DVD updates will be sold at 149 Euros across Europe.

We are excited about this new program and its potential to drive significant update volume in the second half of the year.

And third, Medion, a leading consumer electronics vendor in Europe signed a multiyear agreement with us to supply maps for their entire navigation product line.

I would now like to turn the call over to Dave who will review some of the numbers from first quarter in more detail.

Thanks, Judson.

We're quite please with our first quarter performance.

And I think it's important to understand some of the reasons for that performance.

First, a strengthening Euro had a favorable impact on our results.

The average exchange rate in Q1 was $1.31, compared to the $1.27 rate used in our guidance.

This resulted in a $3.1 million increase in revenue and a $0.01 increase in EPS, compared to the average rate of $1.20 in the first quarter a year-ago, the FX rate drove a $6.9 million increase in revenue and a $0.02 increase in EPS.

Second, we realized some residual benefits from the better than expected portable device sales in both principle geographies during last year's holiday season in the form of royalty reports from our customers that outperformed our expectation.

As a reminder, our revenue recognition in the portable area is typically about one month in arrears from when our customers actually ship their products.

Therefore, our Q1 results generally represent customer shipments to retail in December, January and February.

Third, due to a delay in executing an agreement with an Internet customer, we recorded approximately $2.7 million of revenue in the first quarter that we expected to recognize in the fourth quarter of 2006.

And fourth, our operating expenses were approximately $3 million lower than anticipated, as several projects we began during the quarter rolled out a bit more slowly than we expected.

This will result in an increase in spending for the balance of the year relative to our earlier expectations.

In addition, I'll remind you that our expenses will grow also as we fully incorporate Traffic.com spending in Q2 and ramp up on our investment in projects and initiatives we planned to complete by year end.

In light our two most recent acquisitions and the evolving nature of our business, we've added two pieces of information to our revenue and operating expense reporting.

First, on the top line, we've provided a breakdown of revenue between license-related revenue and advertising revenue.

License revenue captures the vast majority of the business and includes distribution revenue.

Ad revenue is principally derived today from Traffic.com's media and online business and the Map Network.

Second, we've added a new breakdown of database creation and delivery costs, which can be found in the appendix to the results presentation.

The database costs are now subdivided into three areas.

First, direct distribution costs, which is the non-labor cost of sales related to our distribution services business.

Second, data collection and processing costs, which represent the investment in building and maintaining our map and map-related content, traffic data collection expenses and software development expense required to manage our content.

This is the largest of the three areas and captures the vast majority of our product investment.

And third, other database related costs, which include radio and TV ad, inventory costs and the Map Network's direct costs.

Now, with respect to the Q1 revenue statistics.

License-related revenue comprised 94% of total revenue in the quarter, while advertising revenue represented 4% of the total.

Other revenue accounted for the remaining 2%.

Distribution revenue was basically flat compared to the prior year and represented approximately 15% of our total revenue in the quarter.

We performed distribution services on 39% of our in-dash volume.

The mix of distribution units in Europe was 54%, which was down from the prior year, due in large part to the loss of some distribution business at one of our OEM customers to another non-map auto supplier.

The mix in North America was 25%, which was higher than in the year-ago period, due to the timing of shipments to certain OEM customers.

Distribution mix is likely to continue to trend down gradually on an annual basis, as non-vehicle revenue become a bigger piece of our business hard disk drive navigation systems are introduced on more vehicle models over the next few years.

However, the success of our update initiative could partially offset this decline, as we distribute more map updates to the growing installed base of NAVTEQ map users.

On a full-year basis, we're still expecting distribution business to represent a low to mid teens percentage of revenue.

Onboard revenue represented approximately 87% of our revenue in the first quarter, with map units up 58% over the prior year.

In-dash map units rose 8% compared to the same quarter a year-ago.

While portable device map units grew 105%.

Excluding maps for PDA's, which have been declining sharply for the past several quarters, our portable map units grew more than 130% over Q1 of 2006.

Traffic.com and Map Network contributed approximately $6 million to revenue in Q1.

As we did last quarter, we've calculated the change in the license fees paid to us from the first quarter of last year to the first quarter of this year by each of our top 10 customers, who together represent about 2/3 of our revenue, on their most popular NAVTEQ map product in Europe and the Americas.

This percentage change reflects base license fee reductions, as well as volume discounts and other considerations.

For the first quarter of 2007, license fees at our top 10 customers decreased by an average of approximately 9% compared to last year's first quarter.

Turning to expenses.

Database creation and delivery costs were up 18% over the year-ago period.

The growth was driven by increases to investment in our map database, as well as the consolidation of Traffic.com's data-related expenses beginning on March 6.

In terms of the components of database creation and delivery costs, direct distribution costs represented approximately 24% of total database costs in Q1 and grew 11% over the prior year.

Data collection and processing costs represented 71% of total database costs and grew 17% over the first quarter of last year.

Other database costs represented 5% of the total and roughly doubled from the prior year.

In increase is due primarily to the consolidation of Traffic.com's costs of advertising inventory and the Map Network's direct costs.

SG&A expenses grew 22% in the quarter compared to the year-ago period.

Growth was driven by the consolidation of Traffic.com's results, increases in our sales and business development resources and heavier trade show activity, including four major events in the quarter, CES, CTIA, 3GSM and CBIT.

Total stock-based compensation expense in the quarter was $4.3 million, of which $2.5 million was related to stock options.

Of the total expense, $3.6 million was recognized as SG&A.

Traffic.com and Map Network added approximately $9 million to first quarter operating expenses, including the amortization of intangibles.

Total amortization of intangibles included in our operating expenses was $2 million in the quarter, compared to $800,000 in last year's first quarter.

Our operating margin in the quarter was 24%, compared to the 16.9% margin in the year-ago quarter.

Our effective tax rate was 28.2% in Q1.

This rate was slightly lower than the rate we assumed in our annual guidance, due to mix of income among taxing jurisdictions.

We expect the effective tax rate for the full-year to be between 28% and 29%.

To remind everyone, we are now a full cash taxpayer in Europe but not yet in the U.S.

Effective January 1 of this year, the Company adopted the provisions of FIN 48 Accounting For Uncertainty In Income Taxes.

The Company did not record any cumulative effect adjustment to retained earnings as a result of adopting FIN 48.

With respect to our 2007 guidance, ignoring the potential impact of foreign exchange rates, we're still comfortable with the range of revenue and earnings per share that we issued back in February, including our estimates for the revenue contribution and earnings dilution from the two acquisitions and our expectations for operating margin expansion in the base business.

Obviously, the weaker dollar has a favorable impact on our year-to-date results compared to the guidance rate of $1.27.

However, the rate is constantly changing and it's not our practice to update guidance based solely on changes in FX rates.

As a reminder, for each $0.01 difference in the annual average FX rates, there's a $3.1 million impact to full-year revenue a $1.1 million impact to full-year net income.

While Q1 results were particularly strong, we do not feel it is appropriate to change our full-year guidance at this time, primarily for three reasons.

First, a significant portion of the Q1 earnings performance was due to the timing of certain revenue and expenses that I described.

Second, car sales conditions in our primary geographies remain uncertain.

In-dash business is our largest source of revenue and with gas prices again rising sharply, we would like to see evidence of improvement in the marketplace before changing our expectations.

In particular, we'll be looking at the kinds of cars consumers are buying to see whether SUV, crossover and luxury car sales might recover.

Third, PND business is heavily weighted toward the back half of the year in Q4 in particular.

It's simply too early in the year to adjust our expectations in this area one way or the other.

Also, the loss of the TomTom One business, which we did not expect, represents a head wind that we'll need to overcome.

I would also like to point out that the full impact of the roughly 4 million shares issued for the Traffic.com acquisition in terms of weighted average shares outstanding will be reflected in subsequent quarters.

In terms of modeling the business for the remaining three quarters of the year, first quarter operating expenses were lighter than expected.

And spending for the balance of the year will be meaningfully higher as we invest to expand our coverage and deliver a number of content features to our customers by year end.

Of course the second quarter will also be the first one that will reflect the full operating expense impact of the acquisition of Traffic.com.

And with that, I would like to turn it back over to Judson.

Thanks, Dave.

I would like to wrap up the call this afternoon by offering a few comments on the business.

Only a few years ago, NAVTEQ was completely focused on serving the automotive industry, with more than 90% of our revenue coming from these customers.

Over the past three years, our business has changed with the emergence of the portable navigation device and we expect it will change even further as wireless opportunities take shape.

As the GPS marketplace has exploded with new devices and applications and our customer list has grown, we have been driven by a desire to not only respond to our customers' requests for new content, features and coverage, but also to anticipate where they will want to go with their applications and to be ready when they are with the right combinations of products and services.

With the addition of the Map Network and Traffic.com and our sponsorship of events like the LBS Challenge, we are evolving our business to satisfy the emerging demands of the mobile consumer.

Positioning NAVTEQ as a hub for an almost limitless amount of map and map-related location content.

And developing the capabilities to offer our customers more options in terms of business models.

The changes do make the Company more complex in some ways but I feel these moves are critical to defending and strengthening our position in the value chain.

It is still early but I am pleased with the progress we have made and I am excited about working to achieve our shared vision of the Company's future.

This concludes our prepared remarks, and thank you for your attention.

Now, I would like to ask the operator to open the lines so that we might answer your questions.

(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Your first question comes from the line of Jay Vleeschhouwer of Merrill Lynch.

Please proceed.

Thanks, good afternoon.

Judson, I would like to follow occupy your comments regarding the evolution or growing complexity of the business, specifically a question about how you maintain technology differentiation.

Both you and TA are clearly investing heavily back in your databases, which seems entirely appropriate.

But do you foresee a map database arms race, let's say, or some other kind of new competition around the services and the content that you offer?

That's question one.

And secondly, in terms of the PND outlook for the year, do you have your own forecast for what the market might do in '07, or do you have any particular views about elasticity in the PND market?

Clearly, saw a lot of that effect in Q4.

Thanks.

Well, the second question is easier to answer than the first one because in fact it's, it's impossible for us to come up with a realistic forecast for PND's for the year.

This is still a very popular and evolving consumer technology.

There are still a mix shift in terms of the players who are coming in and out of the space.

There continues to be differentiation with respect to the product and more product segmentation.

And therefore, we're going to see a lot of continued evolution there and I know that is a modeling challenge for many.

But it's just not something that we can realistically and fairly do a good job of.

Until obviously, the year rolls on and we get smarter from getting intelligence from our customers.

But it's very difficult from a Corporate point of view at the beginning of the year to make such forecasts.

With respect to the first question regarding database and services, think what guides us here is more than anything else is listening to our customers.

I think I have made reference to the fact that we have an almost limitless amount of things that we could do.

And we have a pretty detailed process in place that takes us six months every year to refine what we might be doing and focus on what we think is the most important thing to be doing.

And what really drives the selection of what we offer up is what we think the breadth of our customers' need to compete in this evolving space.

And we think we're well positioned to do that.

And we think we'll continue to listen carefully and execute appropriately.

But that's -- I don't think there's anything else for me to say other than that.

Your next question comes from the line of Noelle Swatland of Lehman Brothers.

Please proceed.

Thanks.

First, just a clarification, not a question.

Dave, regarding your ASP commentary of the 9% down year-over-year, is that excluding currency affects?

And then my question is, you talk a lot about the wireless opportunity and specifically Nokia, san you give us some sense of the contribution of some of these wireless units in the quarter?

Our market basket of price changes is currency-neutral, so there are no impact of FX on that.

And with respect to the wireless contributions, at least with respect to -- I think you were asking, Noelle, about the phones.

And I think that that was not particularly meaningful in the quarter.

That's right.

Okay.

Your next question comes from the line of Brandon Dobell of Credit Suisse.

Please proceed.

I wondered if I could get a sense of contribution, either from a revenue or a unit perspective, from the update opportunity and how we should think of that relative to your distribution, revenues or costs?

Will that -- if you see more and more updates, will that impact that distribution line?

Or am I thinking about that the wrong way, that it's not correlated to distribution?

It does impact distribution.

Even if an OEM goes to a hard disk drive for their latest model, they still have an obligation to support their installed base, which is DVD or CD systems and those will require distribution.

So we're discovering, as we get into the update business, that there's actually demand for distribution on an ongoing basis, which we thought was going to go away.

And it turns out, that it's not going away as fast as we thought because of the update business.

It continues to be a meaningful but we want it to be a more meaningful component of our in-dash volume.

I think it represented about 17% of units during the quarter were update units.

We have higher hopes for it than that but that's nice growth from a year-ago.

Okay.

And then one quick one if I could.

Last year you talked a couple times about new PND launches.

Companies launching or devices that were somewhat meaningful.

Anything on the near-term horizon you guys see from that perspective?

I don't -- you mean in terms of a major new customer entering the PND market?

Right, or aggregate.

Obviously, last year's was Sony with their fits and starts.

Anything you guys see, obviously not naming names, but --?

I don't think we would be able to comment on it.

I think it should be obvious that it has been discovered as a product sector in consumer electronics.

I think it was the most popular or second most popular consumer electronics category in Q4.

And it's safe to assume that the consumer electronics giants are all interested in robust markets.

Okay.

Thanks.

Your next question comes from the line of Maynard Um of UBS.

Please proceed.

Hi, thank you.

First question, in trying to capture the value of the mobile opportunity for NAVTEQ, can you just share your thoughts on how you see the business model evolving in mobile handsets in particular?

Do you see that as kind of being subscription-based, per-map fees, or transaction-based?

And second question, in terms of the linearity for the rest of the quarter and the next three quarters, can you give us a sense of how we should think about that in terms of relative to your guidance?

Thank you.

Okay.

I'm not going to be able to help you much on the quarterly guidance because as you know, Maynard, we don't spend a lot of time on that.

And I think history is about all you can look at but you have to factor in the full impact of the acquisitions.

Traffic.com did not close until March 6.

So, we only got 25 days worth of their results in the first quarter.

We'll have the full impact of that for the balance of the year and we've given guidance as to what we think those acquisitions will contribute for the year.

With respect to the business model in wireless, the answer is all of the above.

For off-board solutions where the map resides on a central server and the customer accesses it, the consumer accesses it when they wish to, that is typically a subscription product.

That's what the VZ Navigator product is.

For the smartphone business, where the handset has more processing capacity, storage capacity and screen display, there -- and you have the capability of having the map on board in its entirety and the application on board in its entirety.

And that typically would be a licensing model.

Now, that model will probably evolve longer term into a hybrid model where the base map is on the phone.

But you're downloading additional content from a central server, which may be on a subscription or transaction basis.

So each of those models is in place.

I think the right way to think about it is to think about how our customer gets paid and that's probably how we'll get paid.

Your next question comes from the line of Bill Benton of William Blair.

Please proceed.

Hi, afternoon, guys.

Just a quick question on the TomTom One situation.

If you could just -- I know you said it wasn't a customer service or quality issue.

From your standpoint, can you tell us what you think it was that maybe caused that decision?

And if you could just maybe comment on the overall pricing environment, I'm not saying that is was pricing, but in general what the pricing environment in the PND market looks like right now?

Well, I think the answer to your first question is that, it was explained to us that it was not related to the quality of our database, nor our level of service, nor our relationship but was more likely a set of compelling commercial terms that they were presented with, which they wanted to accept.

I think I would answer your second question by saying that the pricing environment has always been competitive and I think it's going to remain that way.

We've got some concern about the pricing environment.

We hope that if there are situations or isolated instances that we see more aggressive pricing, that in fact they are isolated.

But I don't think we see much change from what we've seen historically over the last two or three years.

So, no incremental degradation there?

I can't -- no, I don't think so.

I would say, in general, we're going to continue to see a competitive pricing environment.

Your next question comes from the line of Ronald Tadross of Bank of America Securities.

Please proceed.

Hi, this is [Jero Nathan] for Ron.

Just a couple of questions.

On a revenue basis, was the vehicle in-dash revenues up on a year-over-year basis or was it down?

In-dash vehicle revenue?

Yes.

It was up.

It was up, okay.

And I'm noticing that your -- was it -- I have here that your distribution gross margins in dollars were much better than normal.

Is that right?

Actually, they -- I think there was a deterioration in the profitability of the distribution business from last year.

Okay.

And on the TomTom One, can you give us any idea of what the revenue or revenue impact would be?

Not from an individual customer, no.

Was it one of your biggest programs?

The revenue was meaningful but they were not a 10% customer.

Okay, thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Yair Reiner of CIBC World Markets.

Please proceed.

Thank you.

Congrats, first of all, on the great quarter.

A question to follow up on the distribution costs.

If I'm looking at the model correctly, it looks like the distribution costs have remained relatively flat over the last number of quarters.

As revenues from that side of the business continue to decline, should we look forward to some kind of restructuring or how much ability do you have to kind of right-size that business as volumes decline?

The lion's share of the cost in that line item are directly variable with revenue.

So, why have margins been declining in that part of the Company?

Well, the price pressure on distribution.

It's generally viewed by our customers as a commodity or available from a number of different people, who view it as just reproducing disks.

And so you get more price pressure and some of that is mix.

Fair enough.

One follow-up on the in-dash part of the business.

Can you give us a sense of how the in-dash updates performed during the quarter?

They're obviously very important in the fourth quarter of last year.

Well, I think we answered that question just a moment ago.

And I think we said that units were -- about 17% of our total in-dash units were updates, which is up probably about 10% or so as a percentage from last year.

I think last year at this time it was 13% or 14%.

Your next question comes from the line of Rob Sanderson from American Tech.

Research.

Please proceed.

Rob?

I'm sorry.

He has disconnected.

Your next question comes from the line of Jeetil Patel of Deutsche Bank.

It's actually [Hazim] here for Jeetil.

Can you talk a little please about the inclusion of December revenues in your Q1 results?

I understand that you're taking the royalty reports and booking the revenues from -- whenever you received the royalty reports and one month in arrears.

Can you try to quantify for us, please, how much of the Q1 results reflect -- was coming from December?

Or said another way, can you help us understand what the January/February/March numbers kind of look like?

Just so we can get a sort of run rate idea of what your calendar year Q1 revenues would like that?

That's the first question.

And then the second question, could you also just describe a little bit more in the U.S., do you think that this sort of upside came mainly from the PND segment or was also the in-dash units much better than what you thought it was?

Thank you.

I think the -- both of them contributed to our results.

I think we're pleased with what happened in both areas.

With respect to your first question, I'm unable to quantify that at this point in time.

I have no idea how much of our revenue came in December versus January or February.

And this is a phenomena -- it's not a phenomena unique to this year, it happens every year.

It's just, by the time we get the timing -- by the time we get the reports, our year end books are closed and we typically would record it in the following year.

It's just that the growth in the PND business year-over-year has had a more pronounced effect this year than it might have last year.

Would it be fair to say that the fourth quarter of '07 therefore we should expect the same sort of -- a similar manner of the December numbers for the fourth quarter of '07 to be pushed out into your 2008 financials?

It probably, yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Rob Sanderson of American Technology Research.

Hi, thanks.

Sorry I got bounced there earlier.

I think you may have been talking about this but just now the previous question.

But when you provided full-year guidance back in February, you were talking about a lower proportion of full-year revenue to come in the first quarter.

Even if we back out the FX and the catch-up on the Internet contract here, it doesn't play out into your full-year guidance that way.

So do you see any specific factors that influence seasonality this year or is this just an effort to reflect conservatism,given uncertain outlook, particularly, in the automotive end markets?

Well, you didn't one other thing that we'll have an impact and that is the Traffic.com acquisition.

The full impact of that isn't felt until -- for the balance of the year.

We only got 25 days.

And the second is the TomTom business, which really has an impact in Q3 and Q4.

That's in Q1 but won't be in Q3 and Q4.

Okay, right.

So -- and then on the TomTom business, our analysis is kind of of pointing to something like a 10% to 15% of their units for Q4 and Q1.

Is that the ball park, or are you willing to --?

I don't have visibility on their units.

In terms of what the One represents of their total shipments?

Right.

I don't know what their total shipments are.

Okay, got it.

And then, I wanted to follow up, European auto in-dash, you mentioned timing of shipments in your comments.

Can you elaborate on that or did something maybe slip from Q1 into another quarter or what was that --?

Yes, in the distribution business, we ship when the customer orders product.

And if they order product on the 30 of March, it's in our first quarter.

If they order product on the third of April, it's in the next quarter.

So there can be differences and sometimes the orders are good-sized orders.

And in this case, we were expecting one that would have come in right at the end of March and it didn't come in until April.

Your next question comes from the line of Jack Rath of Canaccord Adams.

Please proceed.

Thanks.

Most my questions have been answered.

Just a question on your geographic coverage.

You announced that you're at your 60th country here.

You're presently breaking out revenues in just a couple of buckets and most of that clearly, your revenues being driven from the United States and western Europe.

I was wondering if you'd care to elaborate on your expectations going forward of your geographic revenue splits?

Do you see any areas, now that you've got 60 countries under coverage, how do you think about the lag time before those other countries will start to pick up?

And any particular countries that you're see something really interesting activities?

Thanks.

It's a really good question.

We record geographic revenue based on who the billing entity is, the legal billing entity within our organization.

It turns out that many of our, what we call, world market countries, which are other than Europe and North America, are typically billed by our European legal entity.

And so, that's where the revenues show up.

I would say that beyond our two principle geographies, we're very excited about the opportunities that seem to be arising in Asia.

But as you point out, it will take some time for that business to ramp up in terms of -- it's not a meaningful car market yet but it's growing very quickly.

It's a huge cell phone market but you need capability in terms of the phones to really make a meaningful impact.

But I think that we think that that market could be as exciting as our two principal geographies but it will probably take four or five years for that to really come to fruition.

Okay.

Just a second, again, longer-term oriented question.

If you're looking at different end market applications as you sort of diversify your business, you've clearly got one that's developing now in the wireless and that might be -- it gets somewhat confusing off-board, onboard with wireless.

But if you were to weigh, say the ADAS opportunity, which is again a multi -- it's not revenue generating today versus the wireless opportunity, and particularly the handset and smartphone opportunity, which do you think is the bigger revenue opportunity for your Company?

Thanks.

Well, I would say we're excited about both of them.

I think just given the magnitude, hundreds of millions of phones, whether it's an onboard or off-board model, it just seems like this is a natural application for location-based content.

And the whole environment of location-based service applications that we've been hearing about for years, we think, is going to happen.

So it's hard for us to know exactly where that's going to go in five years, but we think it's not out of the realm of possibility that you would have some sort of location-based content, including potentially maps on virtually every phone at some point in the future.

We just don't know how to predict that.

With respect to ADAS, we actually are realizing minimal amount of revenue from that today.

It is real.

It's been something that has been worked on for many, many years.

And that probably has a slower growth profile but if it continues to deliver in terms of helping a variety of applications in the automobile and in delivering greater safety and security and functionality, that's the kind of thing that also could have an enormous potential over many years.

That's going to have a slower growth curve, I think, than the wireless opportunities but we're excited about both of them.

Your next question comes from the line of Rob Schwartz of Jefferies.

Just one clarification and then a question.

I think you used to give a breakout of the server-related and advertising revenue, other.

I don't know if you could do that.

And you mentioned that some of your projects were delayed.

And I know you're not in the habit of giving quarterly guidance on expenses but if you could help us understand when those projects are likely to be picked up?

And are they likely to start -- have they already started in Q2 or are they likely to be second half, maybe even Q4 events?

I -- yes, that's -- I don't know whether I can give that kind of precision.

I understand why you're asking, Rob.

The $3 million that we didn't spend in the first quarter, we expect to spend later in the year and I can't give you any more precision on it than that, unfortunately.

I would like to be helpful but I don't even know exactly how that would spread for the balance of the year.

I think you would probably be safe spreading it evenly but I don't know.

With respect to the onboard versus off-board in our remarks, we mentioned that the onboard was 87% of our revenue and the off-board and other was 13%.

That would include -- that's where the server would be with the off-board then?

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Friedland of Soleil Group.

Please proceed.

Hi, guys, could you just clarify the non-core NAVTEQ operating expenses for the quarter, so Traffic.com and TMN?

You mean what are they, Pete ?

Yes, just specific numbers so it's helpful just to model out the Q2 and beyond.

The non-core -- $9 million was what we said was the first quarter.

Okay.

So, $9 million and that's basically one month?

Well, yes, it's three months from Map Network.

It's 25 days from Traffic.com.

Got it.

Your next question comes from the line of April Horace of Janco Partners.

Hi.

Thanks for taking my question.

Real quick, you had talked once that PND growth this year was going to be another 50%.

But now having this time lag of this December royalty payment, can you give us any color as to how to model that out for the rest of the year?

Is it still 50% or do we take some portion out or add some portion into '08 -- or '07?

I don't think our point of view has changed in terms of what we think the growth in the market will be.

Do you -- historically each quarter, the PND revenue is increasing, or at least the number of map units is increasing.

Do you expect any volatility come Q2?

I'm not sure -- in the consumer business, I think we're all sort of on pins and needles as to what's going to happen in the marketplace.

We follow the same kind of statistics that I'm sure you do, the PND data and in Europe the -- what's the?

GFK data to kind of tell us what's happening there.

So I don't know that we have any insight into what's going happen in the second quarter.

Probably the Garmin's and the TomTom's have a better view of that than we do.

We're always the last to know.

Your next question comes from the line of Ben Radinsky of Bear Stearns.

Good afternoon.

What do you plan on doing with all the cash that's building on the balance sheet?

We have kind of three objectives.

The first is that we want to have what I would say an appropriate balance of cash for emergencies or flexibility or whatever.

In our surveys, the median cash balance of companies with our market cap and cash balance of companies with our market cap and our revenues in the public space is about $400 million.

We're fast approaching that.

We should be there by the end of the year, if not sooner.

We want to make sure that our internal opportunities, which are abundant, are appropriately funded.

And then I think that we have an appetite to look at perhaps external growth opportunities through M&A transactions.

And to the extent that we satisfy those three things, I think we would look at some point to returning excess cash to shareholders.

Okay.

And then just one housekeeping question, can you tell us who your 10% customers were for the quarter and if possible, what percent they were?

We had two 10% customers for the quarter, BMW and Garmin.

And what percent were they?

We don't disclose that.

We would only disclose that on an annual basis.

Your final question comes from the line of David [Neederman] of Pacific Crest.

Good afternoon.

Could you please provide the penetration rates for North America and Europe for in-dash?

And secondly, we've seen a couple of announcements recently, OnStar and MapQuest announced a service whereby subscribers can send itineraries directly to their cars from their PC's and and that kind of mirrors an announcement we saw earlier from BMW with Google.

I'm just curious as to what steps NAVTEQ is taking, if any, to ensure that these Internet routing don't do end-runs and provide dynamic routing for non-dynamic routing pricing?

Thank you.

On the first question, David, we actually don't provide penetration rates on a quarterly basis.

Because of the nature of in-dash units and revenue, it's simply not representative of progress or growth in the business.

So, we report those on an annual basis.

We'll do so again at the end of the year.

With respect to the OnStar solution, they are a customer of ours.

They have been one for some time and the arrangement that comes to them by MapQuest is -- we are part and parcel to that solution and participate in it, in a way that is not Internet pricing.

Ladies and gentlemen, this now concludes the Q&A session.

I'd like to turn it over to management for closing remarks.

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