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Operator
Good day ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the ABM Industries fourth quarter full year 2015 conference call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time.
(Operator Instructions)
As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded.
- SVP of IR
Thank you, Michelle. Welcome, everyone. I'm David Farwell, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Here with me today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Scott Salmirs, and Anthony Scaglione, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
There is a slide presentation that accompanies today's call. You may access this presentation now by going to our website at www.abm.com and under the tab, Investors, you will see events. Please select this tab and click, View Presentation.
Now turning to slide 2 of the presentation is our agenda. I need to tell you that our presentation today contains predictions, estimates and other forward-looking statements. Our use of the words estimates, expect and similar expressions are intended to identify these statements. The statements represent our current judgment of what the future holds. While we believe them to be reasonable, these statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These factors are described in the slide that accompanies this presentation.
During the course of this presentation, certain non-GAAP financial information will be presented. A reconciliation of those numbers to GAAP financial measures is available at the end of the presentation and on the Company's website under the Investors tab. I will now turn the call over to Scott.
- President & CEO
Thanks, David. Good morning. And thanks everyone for joining us today. By now, I'm sure you all had a chance to review last night's press release discussing our FY15 fourth-quarter and full-year results as well as this morning's announcement of the Westway acquisition in the UK, a provider of technical services.
2015 was a defining year for ABM, in which we announced the bold new vision and began our transformational process from a services-like Company to a solutions-driven business. I'm very proud of what our Company and our employees have accomplished this year and feel an increased level of energy and excitement and commitment throughout the entire business as we begin the journey towards our 2020 Vision.
Anthony will go through the numbers in much more detail but at a high level, we reported a good quarter, with revenues up 6% to nearly $1.3 billion, compared to the same period in FY14 and we achieved solid organic growth of 3.7%. Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $69.4 million which translated into a 5.4% margin. So the takeaway here is that we are keeping our eye on the ball as we move through our transformation, something that I've always signaled as critically important.
Our adjusted income from continuing operations for diluted share came in slightly above our narrowed guidance which was last communicated at Investor Day. This was not only a result of our operational performance but due to our decision to adjust a portion of the year-end bonuses to reflect our insurance results we spoke about in the third quarter. We felt this was important to do as we are focused on aligning our compensation to our business strategy and our financial performance. I'm also proud of the fact that in FY15, we were able to return just over $60 million -- $67 million in the form of dividends and share repurchases and our Board approved a 3.1% increase in our quarterly dividend.
I now want to spend a few minutes highlighting some exciting and growing areas of our business. We continue to see strong growth within our Air Serv segment. Air Serv revenues have grown double-digit over the past year and has one of our highest client retention rates in the Company at roughly 98%. Going into 2016, the Air Serv segment has a strong pipeline for new business opportunities and is well-positioned for the new year.
Within our Building and Energy Solutions segment, our ABES Technical Services business demonstrated record sales in the fourth quarter which was enhanced by new bookings from our CTS acquisition which we completed in May of this year. You may remember that in my first quarterly earnings call as CEO, I said that I believed in this group and their ability to accelerate their performance, given a slow start in the first and second quarter. I'm happy to report that they exceeded every expectation I had.
In Onsite, which comprises Janitorial, Facilities and Parking, revenue closed the quarter up 2.6% and we are so pleased with our TEGG sales in our Janitorial business which were up 16% for the quarter. We've also seen good expansion in High Tech and in our Sports & Entertainment business, including announcing an extension of our contract with the New Orleans Saints.
In addition, we continue to stay focused on technology innovation. A great example is the enhancement of the ABM applications to leverage BLE technology which is more commonly referred to as beacon technology. BLE allows ABM to track employees and assets in real-time within facilities. As an example, by tracking employees and hard assets within airport terminals, we can dynamically route employees to our arrivals and departures that require wheelchair services or to facilities that need attention. This has tremendous implications for the management of human logistics and driving improvements for our clients. We've been working closely with Microsoft and AT&T on this initiative.
So if you think about 2015, we achieved solid performance in a year that saw a great deal of change. This included transitions at some of the most senior levels of management, and the announcement and articulation of our new strategy to align our business to a vertical industry-focused model. I was also pleased that we were able to accelerate one of the components of our 2020 Vision with the sale of our Security business to Universal Protection Services,
We are now in a key transition year, where we will align our new organization structure to fit our vertical approach and we will be investing in the necessary tools to support our 2020 Vision initiative. This is critical as it's going to position our Company for long-term top and bottom line growth that we expect to achieve through our new operating model. The entire management team is focused on our business transformation but also clearly understands how necessary it is to continue to run our day-to-day business. And I believe that our results in the fourth quarter are a further indicator that we can adeptly handle that balance. Looking ahead at the macro environment, we believe our business will remain stable as we move through 2016 and we do not foresee any immediate headwinds.
Finally, I'm excited to announce today's acquisition of Westway Services. Not only does it start out our year on a very positive note, the acquisition is an excellent strategic fit and in line with our focus on technical services that deliver higher margins. This also builds upon our strength in the UK with Omniserv and last year's GBM acquisition and this will allow us to deliver complete facility solutions. To summarize, for me 2016 is about navigating a year of transition and delivering on the results you expect from us and the guidance we provided. With that, let me turn the call over to Anthony Scaglione, our Chief Financial Officer, who will provide further details on our financial results
- EVP & CFO
Thank you, Scott, and good morning everyone. As Scott discussed, FY15 was a defining period in the Company's 106-year history. Our 2020 Vision clearly provides a road map for enhancing shareholder value and I'm pleased that the sale of the Security business for pre-tax proceeds of $131 million was a significant step. I will start with a high-level review of the fourth quarter. Note that the Company's financial results take into account the sale of Security, which is now classified as discontinued operations.
Please turn to slide 5. Revenues were up 6%, 3.7% organically compared to the prior year. Adjusted income from continued operations increased 16.7% when compared to the fourth quarter of FY14. There are a number of items in the quarter that impacted results. The contribution from one less working day, the strong performance of our Technical Service business, and a bonus reversal of certain incentive plans more than offset the increase in SG&A payroll and higher insurance expense, resulting in an increase of adjusted EBITDA margin of 5.4%. During the quarter, continuing operating cash flow was $39.5 million, down 40%, primarily from the timing of changes in working capital from Q3 to Q4. For the year, continuing operating cash flow was $144.4 million, up 26% and the full year benefited from approximately $20 million of cash flow from our insurance captive.
Now let's move to slide 6 for a review of operations for the fourth quarter. The Janitorial segment recorded overall growth of 3.4%, benefiting from the acquisition of GBM which has been rebranded ABM UK. Organically, the Janitorial segment (technical difficulty) by $8.1 million primarily due to strong work order, or TEGG revenue. The Janitorial operating profit margin benefited from low labor expense resulting from one less working day and for the year, Janitorial operating profit margin was 5.6%, consistent with the guidance we provided on the third quarter call.
Moving to Facility services. Revenues were slightly down compared to the prior-year period. As anticipated, operating profit margin was down for the quarter due to the timing of the KPI award, which will now occur in the first quarter FY16. For the year, operating profit margin was higher than the guidance given on the third quarter call. Rounding out the Onsite business, our Parking segment was generally in line with expectations, with margin slightly down due to certain one-time account adjustments compared to the previous guidance.
Turning to slide 7. Operating profit margins increased due to higher revenues from jobs associated with our Technical services. As previously communicated, we expected our ABES business to have a strong fourth quarter and they delivered. In addition, the ABES business ended the year with the record backlog. Wrapping up the fourth quarter segment operational results, Air Serv achieved another quarter of double-digit organic growth due to strong sales in our US operations. Omniserv, our aviation presence in the UK, continues to perform well and contributed to the growth and operating profit due to higher-margin TEGG project work.
Turning to FY15 results on slide 8. Overall, revenues increased by 5.3% as compared to FY14. The increase in revenue was attributable to organic growth of 2.9% and $112 million of incremental revenues from acquisitions. Adjusted income from continuing operations for FY15 was $92.9 million, or $1.62 per diluted share compared to $80.2 million, or $1.41 per diluted share for FY14. The increase was primarily driven by contributions from discrete tax items and the operational points previously provided. Adjusted EBITDA grew to $206 million and we ended with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 4.2%.
Moving to our capital structure. Please turn to slide 10 for the look at the Company's leverage profile. We ended the quarter with approximately $158 million of debt outstanding under our $800 million line of credit. Including letters of credit of approximately $113 million, we ended the quarter with an adjusted leverage of 1.31. As mentioned, we announced the acquisition of Westway Services today, which will increase our pro forma adjusted leverage ratio going forward.
Turning to slide 11. During the quarter, we repurchased 403,000 shares at a cost of approximately $11 million, leaving $189 million available for future repurchases under our $200 million share repurchase program. We will continue to allocate capital prudently to drive long-term shareholder value while maintaining a strong balance sheet to ensure we have adequate liquidity to execute our strategic plan. And yesterday, I'm pleased the Board increased the quarterly dividend by 3.1% to $0.165. This will be the Company's 199th consecutive dividend. Before going into our FY16 guidance, I want to make sure we explain the impact of a couple significant items from FY15 that when re-cast, impact the beginning run rate for FY16.
Now turn to slide 13. First let's bridge adjusted income from continuing operations per diluted share. As described in our press release, including Security, we would have achieved adjusted income of $1.81 per share, which was $0.01 better than the top end of the guidance previously provided. Factoring for the sale of Security, adjusted income from continuing operations was $1.62 per share.
Now let me bridge a few significant items. As previously described, our insurance expense for 2016 is expected to increase by roughly 35 basis points, or $0.16 to $0.20 per diluted share, due to the increase in our main insurance program. Other changes include the estimated benefit of our 2020 Vision savings, which is primarily driven by the organizational design and projected absence of the bonus reversal in FY15 and one additional working day. With these adjustments and no assumed benefit of discrete tax items, which I will discuss in further detail, the 2016 guidance for adjusted income from continuing operations is $1.30 to $1.40 per diluted share.
Now a little more detail on discrete tax items. The GAAP effective tax rate for 2015 was 25.3% compared to 39.5% for 2014. The effective tax rate for 2015 was lower than the rate for 2014, primarily due to employment based tax credits, a benefit related to the recognition of previously unrecognized tax position and tax deduction for energy efficient government buildings. In aggregate, on an EPS basis, FY15 included approximately $0.21 of these discrete tax items. For FY16, we have not assumed any discrete tax items will be recognized. Therefore, our guidance does not include benefits of up to $0.40 per diluted share from the potential 2015 and 2016 WOTC, energy tax credit or other unrecognized tax benefits.
Moving to adjusted EBITDA margins on slide 14. As mentioned on our third-quarter call and at our Investor Day, the increase in our insurance rate is anticipated to adversely impact adjusted EBITDA margin going forward. In addition, the reversal of the bonus accrual in the fourth quarter FY15 increased margins for the full year. Taking into consideration these two items, our recasted adjusted EBITDA margin would have been roughly 3.8%. Adding in the projected savings benefits from our 2020 Vision, plus one additional working day, we expect full-year adjusted EBITDA margin to be in the range of 3.9% to 4.1% in FY16.
Turn to slide 15, which summarizes our main assumptions for our FY16 outlook. FY16 is the year when ABM will begin the transformation for achieving 90 to 110 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin improvement by FY18. We recognize that the improvement will come from a combination of operational realignment and better business mix as we move towards becoming a more vertically-focused solutions provider. Our 2016 guidance assumes savings between $10 million to $20 million from 2020 Vision, which is consistent with the numbers I shared at our Investor Day. This is primarily related to organizational design, including putting the right people in the right seats to accelerate our vertical focus. Let me emphasize this is realized savings, not run rate savings. Partially offsetting these savings is one additional working day. To note, the acquisition of Westway is not expected to materially impact our guidance. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Operator?
Operator
Thank you.
(Operator Instructions)
Andy Wittmann with Baird.
- Analyst
Hi guys thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start and just dig into a couple things on the guidance. And maybe, Anthony, I'll pick up with the tax, the up to $0.40 of tax.
So the items for 2015 were $0.21 WOTC energy employment tax credits seem like the buckets where that came in. Obviously, you're not guiding but $0.21 is probably the benchmark that most people will work off of; what gets you the other $0.19? It seems like a lot and maybe some color around that would be helpful.
- EVP & CFO
Sure. Andy, when you look at the tax credits that came into FY15, primarily the WOTC, the energy tax credits and we had some reversals from previously unrecognized tax benefits, if you think about retroactive and prospective WOTC, that could be anywhere in the range of 20% to 25%. And it's hard to pin down based on the cumulative impact.
The remaining items, which we described are like the energy tax credits of $179 million, again based on legislation passing and then there's certain unrecognized tax positions from the previously positions that we have on our balance sheet, that will bridge the remaining $0.19.
- Analyst
What has to happen for the previously unrecognized items? What has to break for those to come out, do you have to -- is it -- those don't sound like legislation at all. Those seem like operational things that the Company would have to achieve or not achieve for those to be recognized; is that right?
- EVP & CFO
It's really based on passage of time. We have positions that we've taken related to previously unrecognized items associated with acquisitions in the past. Those positions, based on the passage of time, so it's really statutory passage of time that will allow us to recognize that but it's always subject to risk and audit.
- Analyst
Yes. Okay. So those passage of time credits would have been part of the $0.21 last year and some amount of those is certain for 2016. We just -- you just don't how much; you're not guiding towards how much; is that fair way to (multiple speakers) --
- EVP & CFO
I would say it's reasonably certain.
- Analyst
Yes. Okay. And then just, was there any -- what's the share count, Anthony, that's assumed in the guidance?
- EVP & CFO
Roughly $57 million.
- Analyst
Okay. So nothing incremental beyond what you've already announced here today then.
- EVP & CFO
That's correct.
- Analyst
Okay. And then Scott, on Westway, any more detail that you could provide there in terms of what you expect? We heard EPS, not a lot of accretion, probably because of the amortization but EBITDA expectations out of that deal, a deal multiple. And then it's always been our assumption that your UK business is largely through your Air Serv business.
I know that's not totally true but I'm trying to understand the cross-selling opportunity here. Is your base business there big enough to cross-sell through or is this really the launch point for your UK Onsite work?
- President & CEO
So, well, first of all, I want to say we're just so excited about this acquisition because when we started -- so we've had the OmniServ business through the Air Serv acquisition, as you know, and that's really sequestered towards airports, airlines. We did the GBM acquisition, which got us into our core Onsite businesses that we're traditionally known for but that was primarily janitorial.
So we didn't have a complete facility solution because we didn't have a High-Tech portion which is, as you know, Andy, in our 2020 Vision, what we're looking to do is leverage these high-margin businesses. So for us, this kind of completes our ability in the UK to now service clients in a more, I would say, more thorough and complete way because before, we couldn't offer these services.
So we're excited about this and they're such a high-quality company. We spent a lot of time on due diligence, talking with the principals. So I think what you're going to see now, as our total UK business approaches $250 million, which is a big shift, right, from where we were a few years ago, you're going to see us really be able to operate as a complete ABM business in the UK with this offering. Again, for what we are trying to articulate as a firm which is to move up our margin profile, this is going to be tremendous for us.
- Analyst
Are there any financial details at this time that you can give us? And when do you expect this to close?
- EVP & CFO
Andy, we actually closed today so we're excited about having Westway as part of our portfolio. It's a great book of business, as Scott mentioned. It's a high single-digit, low double-digit EBITDA margin business so the blend is going to be a great story over the next couple years.
- President & CEO
Andy, what I would say is, if you think about our ABES business in the US and how that's been performing and what it does, it's literally a mirror image.
- Analyst
Okay. Thanks guys.
- President & CEO
Thanks Andy.
Operator
Michael Gallo with CL King.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning. One follow-up and then a couple questions. Anthony, I'm not sure I heard you right in response to Andrew's question. Did you say the WOTC and prospective WOTC was $0.20 to $0.25, or 20% to 25% of the tax items?
- EVP & CFO
$0.20 to $0.25, so that's (multiple speakers) --
- Analyst
That's what I thought you said. I thought I heard percent, but great. Second question I have is just what kind of organic growth rates do you have embedded in 2016? Obviously, you had a very strong quarter organically. Do you think you can continue to grow organically in the 3% area because 3.7% was quite strong and obviously, you had a good quarter in a couple areas there.
- EVP & CFO
As you guys know, we don't give revenue guidance but I would tell you could look to 2015 as you think about 2016. We feel like there's no real economic headwinds that's going to get in our way. The business continues to perform just as it's been performing so for us, that's kind of how we want you to look at 2016.
- Analyst
All right. Okay. Great. And then question for you, Scott, I know you've had a little more time now to start the transformation and the integration and start to really move the Company forward on the new path. I was wondering what you are seeing early on? What kind of reaction you're seeing in an organization? How that's going relative to your expectations at this point?
- President & CEO
No, that's great. Well, it's a tremendous amount of work, as you can imagine, because we're -- this is really a process where we are changing our operating model, right, our go-to-market model. We're moving from a Company that's been focused on services and thought about as Janitorial, Engineering, Parking, to now moving towards industry focus.
So there's just a lot of work in redesigning the organization but I think one thing that's been so positive for me is people are really embracing it in the organization. I think our employees know that this is essential for our long-term. So it's just a lot of energy around it and because it's such interesting and I think exciting where people are just energized by it.
Typically, it's around the holidays, you don't want to be working twice as hard as you've been working but again, so far so good. We're on track. We've laid out a pretty well-articulated process that we're sticking by. We're on track and so far, I just have to say, double thumbs up right now.
- Analyst
Great.
Operator
Joe Box with KeyBanc Capital Markets.
- Analyst
Good morning, guys.
- EVP & CFO
Hi Joe.
- President & CEO
Good morning Joe.
- Analyst
So, Scott, thanks for the commentary on the organic growth, FY16. I just want to dig into that a little bit and the EPS bridge slide that you have. One thing I noticed was there wasn't a EPS contribution from organic growth or M&A in that $1.30 to $1.40. Clearly, you guys have some good momentum in a few of your businesses and if you're expecting more of the same in 2016, why aren't we seeing that contribution in the bridge? Is that really just maybe conservatism as you start to execute on 2020 Vision?
- President & CEO
When we build these bridges there's so many things we can add and what we're trying to do is kind of be as simple as we can to create clarity and not overwhelm. And because we see so much consistency, we didn't think it was relevant enough to highlight as a major bridge but Anthony, being the architect of the bridge, you may have another comment on that, Anthony.
- EVP & CFO
I think you articulated it well. So, Joe, if you think about what we try to accomplish is the major drivers of the change year over year and try to provide transparency around items that impacted FY15 and how those items would impact FY16 or unique items for FY16.
So if you think about the base book of business and then what we characterize as other, that's intended to capture some of that pull-through business from an organic standpoint or pull-through margin from an organic standpoint.
- Analyst
Okay. Thank you for that. What is pro forma debt accounting for Westway and I guess is Westway the sole reason why interest expense is going to end up being flat year over year?
- President & CEO
Yes, so the thing about Westway, obviously we're not disclosing the purchase price at this point but if you think about Westway, the impact is going to increase our leverage from where it ended on FY15 and then projecting going forward, we see slight increases in base rates based on where we think the Fed may increase rate. So we built a little bit of that into our plan for FY16 so the combination of those two events is why we see our interest expense to be relatively flat year over year.
- Analyst
Okay. And then Anthony, can you just talk your insurance claims in the quarter. I'm curious just maybe they took a step back from that more elevated level that we've had over the last couple of quarters, maybe implying that there could be an insurance reversal at some point next year.
- EVP & CFO
Joe, that's really tough for us to forecast any adjustment to insurance at this point. What we committed to, as we continue to look at safety and risk management as a key component of our strategy going forward, we feel confident that the rates that we have built in our plan for FY16 are the right rates for the business. Those rates have been cascaded down through the business so fully transparent from that standpoint so it's too early to say whether that's the right rate on a long-term basis, either up or down.
- Analyst
Okay. Did you see a trend in line with the claim levels for last quarter or has there been a significant change?
- EVP & CFO
No significant change at this point.
- Analyst
Okay. Great. I'll turn it over. Thank you guys.
- President & CEO
Thanks.
Operator
David Gold with Sidoti.
- Analyst
Good morning. Just a couple points to follow up. So first, when we look at the $1.30 to $1.40 guidance, so given everything we put out there, is the $0.10 variance largely from that $0.10 to $0.20 band that you gave for 2020 savings? In other words, is that the only area of upside right now that we're pointing to?
- EVP & CFO
No, I don't think so. I think that the $1.30 to $1.40 is typically we provide guidance range for other things that are unknown so we want to have some flexibility in the range for things based on our budget or based on our view or unknowns.
The $0.10 to $0.20, we feel real confident about that and we articulated that and as I mentioned earlier, that's a realized savings. It could place a factor in the $1.30, whether there's at the low end or at the high end, but we feel confident in the plan that we have in place that will allow us to achieve the range for the guidance that we provided.
- Analyst
Okay. All right. And then just following up on Joe's question, it sounds like on the organic side or for contribution, you're taking a fairly conservative approach then to next year. Would you consider that to be fair?
- EVP & CFO
That's fair. I think as we look at 2020 and as we start to migrate from a service-led business to a vertical business, one of the things that we want to make sure that we articulated, that process is obviously going to take time but it's also going to allow us to continue to look at our contracts and where we may want to grow more aggressively or not grow as aggressively.
So the pluses and minuses makes it a little bit challenging in 2016 to, really, hedge what we feel comfortable from a long-term trajectory or organic growth rate could be and that's why, with those changes, is why we have the guidance, as Scott or at least for the range that Scott articulated.
- Analyst
Perfect and then just one last one. The TEGG revenue side, can you give a little bit more color there as to their particular pockets, where that's coming from? Obviously, it's consistent with the ABM story and what we'd expect, or certainly support what we would expect at this point in the cycle but just outlook there and how you feel about things and what the drivers are just now?
- President & CEO
Sure, sure. So particularly in this quarter, we had strong TEGG revenues in the Northeast and the West, and there's not a lot of strategic reason why it's happening in one region versus another; this stuff runs in cycles, David.
So I think the bigger picture here about TEGG revenue is as we're going through this 2020 Vision, as we are learning more and more about our business, we're figuring out where to focus. And as you know, over the years, TEGG revenue is higher-margin business, right? So as we get focused on raising our margins, we're keenly adapt to areas where we can pull those levers.
For us, it's been a big focus on TEGG revenue and I'm hoping we're going to continue to be able to tell you the story about how TEGG revenues are increasing because when you hear that, you know that, that means it's a focus on margin. So I don't think it's necessarily an economic trend.
I don't think there's good reason again why it's East versus West. Next call, we may say it's in the Midwest. We don't know but we do know that there's a tremendous focus on where we can push our margins.
- Analyst
Perfect. Thank you both.
- President & CEO
Thanks, David.
Operator
I'm showing one final question. George Tong with Piper Jaffray.
- Analyst
This is Adrian Paz on for George Tong. Can you discuss how pricing trends have evolved over the last few quarters in the Janitorial segment and where do you think those trends could go to?
- President & CEO
I don't know that there's been any significant trends in pricing over the last few quarters. Like anything else, we are always working in a difficult environment where we're fighting every day for business and for coming forth with the right pricing to retain and win business.
So for us, no real pricing trends and the good news is, as the economy relate remains relatively strong, we're not seeing pressures from customers to cut back on services. We're -- it's been a very stable environment right now in the Janitorial business.
- Analyst
All right. So I know previously you guys had pushed back on some of these customers that were really looking for pricing concessions and walking away from some of these contracts. I don't know if -- do you expect that to continue or are you seeing better negotiation leverage now that the economy has improved?
- President & CEO
No, I think for us, I would take us back to that -- the 2020 Vision and how we're trying to grow in certain segments. We will be looking at our portfolio constantly now of where we're making money, where we're not making money, clients that we can grow with. I don't think there's any real change here.
- Analyst
All right. Great. Well, thank you.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time and I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Scott Salmirs for any closing remarks.
- President & CEO
Thanks everyone. Thanks for joining and hopefully we answered everybody's questions and I just want to wish everyone a safe and happy holiday season. Thank you very much.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.