威騰電子 (WDC) 2014 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Good afternoon, and thank you for standing by.

Welcome to Western Digital's fourth-quarter's financial results for FY14.

(Operator Instructions)

As a reminder, this call is being recorded.

Now, I will turn the call over to Mr. Bob Blair.

You may begin.

Thank you.

I want to mention at the outset that we will be making forward-looking statements, in both our comments, and in response to your questions, concerning, among others, our position in the growth of data and the storage ecosystem, the growth areas in storage, our investment focus, our product offerings, and our customers' responses to our product offerings, and our financial performance, including our financial results expectations for the September quarter.

These forward-looking statements are based on Management's current expectations, and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially, including those listed in our 10-Q filed with the SEC on May 5, 2014.

We undertake no obligation to update our forward-looking statements to reflect new information or events.

In addition, references will be made during this call to non-GAAP financial measures.

Reconciliations of the differences between the historical non-GAAP measures we provide during the call to the comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the quarterly fact sheet posted in the Investor Relations section of our website.

The forward-looking guidance we provide during this call excludes amortization of intangibles related to the acquisitions of HGST, VeloBit, sTec and Virident, asset impairment and other charges, and charges related to litigation.

Because the amount of these items is not fully known to us at this time, we are unable to provide guidance for, or a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.

The impact of these excluded items may cause the estimated non-GAAP financial measures to differ materially from the comparable GAAP financial measures.

We ask that participants limit their comments to a single question and one follow-up question.

I also want to note that copies of remarks from today's call by Steve Milligan and Tim Leyden will be available on the investor section of Western Digital's website immediately following the conclusion of this call.

And with that, I'll turn the call over to Steve Milligan, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us.

After my opening remarks, Tim Leyden will provide additional commentary on our June quarter performance, and our outlook for the September quarter.

Western Digital achieved strong financial results in the June quarter, with better than anticipated revenue, healthy gross margin performance, and continued strong cash flow generation.

We achieved these results by addressing continued robust demand in gaming, and better than anticipated demand in notebook PCs, demonstrating our flexibility and capability in high-volume businesses.

We also saw strength in our performance enterprise business.

We anticipate better demand in the second half of the calendar year, as we benefit from an improving demand profile for PCs, as well as from growth in the capacity enterprise space.

Our recent dialogue with leading PC makers has been uniformly positive, and we are also encouraged by our ongoing interactions with data center customers.

Longer-term, we remain excited about Western Digital's strong strategic position at the center of the storage ecosystem, which continues to expand, evolve and transform.

The creation of digital data continues unabated, and the strategic value of that content is increasing.

With our deep insight and experience, we will continue to play a vital role in unlocking the value of data with innovative and industry-leading storage devices and solutions.

We will continue to focus our investments in the highest-growth areas, the public cloud and enterprise data centers, mobility, and the personal cloud.

Along those lines, I am pleased to note several recent achievements by our HGST and WD subsidiaries, including the expansion of our industry-leading enterprise-class SSD portfolio, with our next-generation Ultrastar drives with capacities up to 1.6 terabytes.

A new converged enterprise PCIe product roadmap following the integration of our sTec, Virident, and VeloBit acquisitions.

Shipment of our next generation 10K and 15K 2.5-inch performance enterprise hard drives, shipment of our third-generation WD Red product at 6 terabytes, to address continued strong demand in the home and small business mass space.

Continued global success of our WD Purple drives in addressing the high-growth demand for security surveillance in homes and offices, and the introduction of My Book Live Duo, the newest member of our award-winning line of desktop storage solutions for the home and office, with software that provides secure local cloud and system-level backups for complete data protection.

Collectively, these developments highlight our broad-based participation in the growth of data.

Combined with our ongoing investments, I'm confident of Western Digital's future as a leading technology company and storage solution provider.

Tim?

Thank you, Steve.

Strong demand and consistent execution helped us exceed financial expectations in the June quarter.

Continued strength in the gaming space, better than expected demand in notebook PCs, and strength in performance enterprise, countered the anticipated softness in capacity enterprise.

Revenue for FY14 was $15.1 billion, including $509 million from enterprise SSD, which represented a 43% increase from FY13.

We continued to make progress on our journey towards a more diversified revenue mix, with 53% of our revenue coming from our branded consumer electronics, and enterprise HDD and SSD businesses.

Our revenue for the June quarter was $3.7 billion, including $113 million from enterprise SSDs.

Over the long-term, we continue to expect that our SSD revenue growth will outpace the growth rate of the total enterprise SSD space.

We shipped a total of 63.1 million hard drives, at an average selling price of $56.

A quarter-over-quarter decline in overall ASP was driven by business mix, consistent with the robust gaming and better than expected notebook volumes.

Our gross margin for the quarter was 28.2%.

Our non-GAAP gross margin was 29.5%, in line with our implied guidance, and excluding $39 million of amortization expense for acquired intangible assets, as well as $10 million of other charges.

Our net income for the June quarter totaled $317 million, or $1.32 per share.

On a non-GAAP basis, net income was $445 million, or $1.85 per share.

Turning to the balance sheet, we generated $713 million in cash from operations in the June quarter, and our free cash flow totaled $552 million.

For FY14, we generated $2.8 billion in cash from operations, and our free cash flow totaled $2.2 billion.

Our CapEx for the June quarter totaled $161 million, or 4% of revenue.

For the full fiscal year, our CapEx totaled $628 million, again 4% of revenue.

We expect that CapEx for the 2015 fiscal year will be at or below the low end of our 5% to 7% model.

We repurchased 3.2 million shares for $272 million during the June quarter.

For FY14, we repurchased 10.3 million shares, for $816 million.

We also declared a dividend in the amount of $0.40 per share.

In total, we paid dividends of $259 million during FY14.

We exited Q4 with total cash and cash equivalents of $4.8 billion, of which approximately $1.4 billion was in the US.

I will now provide our guidance for the September quarter.

We expect revenue to be in the range of $3.8 billion to $3.9 billion.

Gross margin, marginally above the midpoint of our 27% to 32% model, excluding the amortization of intangibles.

R&D and SG&A spending of around $625 million, excluding the amortization of intangibles.

The 14th week adds about $28 million of OpEx.

A tax rate of approximately 8.5%, and a share count of approximately 241 million.

Accordingly, we estimate non-GAAP earnings per share between $1.95 and $2.05 for the September quarter.

As a reminder, we expect the sTec, VeloBit and Virident acquisitions to be accretive early in calendar year 2015.

In closing, I want to remind investors and analysts that our FY15, which consists of 53 weeks, with the first quarter ending October 3, 2014 consisting of 14 weeks, and the second, third, and fourth quarters at 13 weeks each.

Operator, we are now ready to open the call for questions.

(Operator Instructions)

Aaron Rakers, Stifel.

Congratulations on the good quarter.

First question for me would be, as we look at the 14-week period in the current quarter, I know you talked about operating expenses.

Maybe you can help us understand what your total TAM assumption for the industry?

And, also, what are you assuming as far as the contribution for your shipment numbers for that extra week in the current quarter?

And I do have a follow-up.

Hello Aaron.

It's Steve.

Our TAM expectation for calendar Q3 or fiscal Q1 for us is around 145 million units, in that range.

And we would expect that the 14th week, when you look at it on a net basis or an operating income basis, it will be modestly positive from an earnings perspective, from our standpoint.

Okay.

And then as a follow-on I know that -- I don't know if you're going to say much at all -- but any kind of update of where we stand as far as the refiling with MOFCOM, any kind of clarity, or any expectations, or any color that you can give would be helpful there.

Thank you.

Just to comment on where we're at, and to refresh everybody's memory, in March of this year we were able to reapply to MOFCOM to request that they lift the whole separate restriction on our business.

That application process and review process with MOFCOM is ongoing and continues.

I don't have anything specific to comment on, in terms of the status, other than the comment that our dialogue remains frequent with them and is constructive.

And in that regard, we feel good about the direction that we're headed, in terms of the dialogue we're having.

Keith Bachman, Bank of Montreal.

I also had two questions.

Tim, perhaps if I can start with you, though.

If you could talk a little bit about the cash cycle, the DSOs were up quite a bit, and so your cash conversion cycle weakened significantly relative to past June quarters.

If you could just talk a little bit about what drove that and where you see that going here in the current quarter.

And then I have a follow-up, please.

I'm not sure that we can significantly on a cash conversion cycle, basically it was up one day.

Yes, sorry the DSOs are what I was referring to.

Excuse me.

We made some progress on inventory.

Particularly in raw and we funded finished goods a bit.

As far as the DSOs are concerned, that was mainly due to customer and channel mix.

As you know, in the fourth quarter, it's historically been our weakest quarter, particularly for consumer and distribution and retail.

So consequently, it's mainly due to just customer mix.

Okay.

If I can ask my follow-up then.

As it relates to pricing, could you talk about like-for-like pricing, and particularly how you see, how it was this quarter, and how you see it unfolding in the September quarter, please?

Thank you.

Just a bit of background.

As you know -- TAM was quite a bit up from where we had anticipated in our April call.

Yes.

Mostly it was up in notebook and in gaming, which we indicate is historically that those are among our weakest ASPs and our weakest margins.

Pricing continues to be competitive, and it was about 60% of the delta between the two quarters and ASP, which was a $2 delta came from the mix, and the rest of it came from price -- like-for-like pricing.

I would assume the pricing mix would be favorable, as we look at the September quarter.

Yes, in the September quarter, again there is a more favorable consumer mix, as we head into the holiday season.

Consequently we're expecting it be modestly -- it would be modestly upward momentum in the pricing in the September quarter.

Okay.

Thanks.

Ananda Baruah, Brean Capital.

Two, if I could.

The first one -- both bigger picture.

The first one is, with more hybrid drives being qualified, as we head into the second half of the year, what is your thinking around 2015 and 2016 and the potential to maybe gain back or clawback some of the share that SSDs has gained in notebooks over the last few years?

Love to get your thoughts there, and then I have a follow-up.

Sure, this is Steve.

I'll take that question.

Relative to hybrids, the first thing is, is that it remains a relatively small piece of our business, or low volumes from our perspective.

We began to see some encouraging signs from our perspective, in terms of the acceptance or utilization of hybrid drives, albeit small, still remaining small volumes.

So we should see increasing volumes as we move through the back half of the year.

I think it's a little bit too early to say how much that will stem the acceptance of pure -- of SSDs in the PC space.

I think it's just a little bit too early to call that.

We'll have to see how some of these new products that our customers are introducing, how they are received in the end user market.

Got it.

That's very helpful, Steve.

Thanks.

As a follow-up, just with regard to the CapEx model and the comment that in FY15 you plan to be below the low end of 5% to 7%.

How should we think about your thinking with regard to moving back up into that model over the next handful of years -- next couple of years, and the timing of needing to add on capacity say, if TAM stays flat to slightly up?

And then how would you go about looking to finance the capacity add-on?

Right now, we continue to expect that we'll stay at or below that 5% to 7% range.

The one wild card frankly that we have is, what happens relative to the hold separate situation.

If the hold separate gets lifted, we will then be able to rationalize our capacity across both subsidiaries, which undoubtedly would allow us to minimize capital expenditures going forward, at least for some period of rationalization.

Now if that doesn't happen, we'll have to evaluate.

Right now, we feel pretty good about where we're at from an overall capacity perspective.

Really the only thing that we're adding from a pure capacity perspective relates to either test capacity or some SSD activity.

So I think right now for the near future, we're going to continue to stay at the low end of that range, or low end or below.

Very helpful.

Thanks a lot.

Jayson Noland, Robert Baird.

A question on visibility.

Steve, you mentioned expectations for better capacity enterprise into the second half.

How has that conversation changed over the last few months?

Well it's getting increasingly more positive, I guess, is maybe the way to say it.

I mean one, order rates are improving, and also the signaling that we're getting from our customers continues to be increasing or improving.

So it's not -- I wouldn't characterize it as a step function improvement, in terms of volume, but we're seeing a nice steady gradual improvement in demand, both in terms of actual orders booked, as well as in sentiment, as we move to the back half of the year.

And then the similar question on visibility from PC OEMs.

Has that firmed up a bit also?

Yes.

Definitely.

I would say that the visibility that we're seeing from a PC manufacturing perspective, arguably is the best we've seen in quite a while.

I would anticipate that we will continue to see strength in the PC market through the balance of 2014, and we are increasingly optimistic that will carry in, at least in terms of the first half of 2015.

Thanks for the color.

Richard Kugele, Needham & Company.

Couple questions.

I wanted to dive a little deeper on the SSD front.

I saw you launched a new version of the enterprise SSD that you acquired from sTec.

Can you just caught talk about the roadmap there how you seem to be progressing with some of the products they have?

Is that considered a next generation controller, for example?

And then I have a follow-up.

Rich, just to clarify, the product that we recently announced is actually a Ultrastar product that is related to the -- our joint development arrangement with Intel.

What we have done is unified our roadmap, or rationalized the combined roadmap between sTec, Virident and HGST.

We have a single roadmap going forward.

You will continue to see new product introductions coming out from us on that front.

Again, as we move to the back half of the year, and we are getting -- we continue to be increasingly optimistic about the roadmap and the products that we'll be introducing that space.

One other thing to add to that, you saw that this past quarter, our revenue was lower in the SSD space versus prior quarters.

If you recall, for the last two quarters we've indicated that we were in a sole-source situation.

That customer has now multi-sourced that product, so we're seeing our revenue, if you want to call it, normalize, as a result of that.

We will -- we expect to see revenue expansion on a quarter-on-quarter basis as we move to the back half of this year and obviously into 2015 as well.

So this is the picture off the SSD side?

That's right, Rich.

And then on the drive side, you also have announced a 6 terabyte that was non-helium, so presumably that's shingle.

But can you just talk about your view of Areal Density, and if you think we can get consistently back above 20% over the next 12 to 18 months?

Areal Density advances will continue to be modest.

Whether it's in that 20% range, until we get to some advanced technologies, and that's really an industry statement.

We feel comfortable with where we're at, as a company, from a competitive technology perspective.

And the 6 terabyte product that was recently introduced, 5-platter which is clearly a leading areal density point, is oriented towards the mass market.

So it's not, just to clarify, and it's not oriented towards the enterprise market, but more towards the mass market.

Okay.

Great.

Thank you very much.

Nehal Chokshi, Technology Insights Research.

Please talk a little bit about the performance enterprise.

What was behind that strength that you saw?

And I do have a follow-up, as well.

Relative to performance enterprise, there's two things really to comment on.

One, we saw a bit of improved demand from an overall industry perspective.

I don't think that there's anything specific to call out that was driving that, just in general, a little bit more strength from an overall industry TAM perspective.

More importantly, as it relates to our numbers, is that we saw particular strength as we continued to refresh and build out our product line in the performance enterprise space, and I think that customer acceptance of those products and the capabilities of those products is reflected in the numbers that we published today.

Okay.

And then I want to revisit the color on the PC OEM conversations, which was really great.

Can you actually get into what is behind formerly positive discussions?

Is it more than temporal enterprise tailwind from the XP end of service?

There certainly is two things in particular that we're seeing.

One is that the commercial PC market on a relative basis continues to be stronger than consumer.

Albeit -- let's be frank, PCs were still flat to slightly down, but we're seeing an improving demand profile in the commercial space, which undoubtedly has to do with a Windows refresh cycle there.

The thing that, frankly from my perspective, was probably the most encouraging, is that we're beginning to see, let's call it initial signs of strength in the consumer space.

Or maybe the beginnings of some strength.

If you look at the latest data that was published, the rate of decline in the consumer PC space is declining, and now certainly is coming off of more favorable compares, but we are beginning to see some initial encouraging signs in terms of commercial PC demand.

Now, why that's the case, I'm not sure that we know for sure.

Arguably, there may be -- there's a lot of PCs out there that haven't been upgraded for a while.

And people rather than let's say call it tablet fatigue or what have you, they're diverting dollars that may have previously gone to other devices to finally upgrading their PCs, and so maybe some encouraging news, and we're optimistic that it will continue, certainly through 2014, and we're getting more encouraged it will carry into 2015 as well.

Great.

Thank you.

Steven Fox, Cross Research.

Two questions for me.

First of all, if we look at the revenue growth for the year, it was obviously down slightly, your markets have been tough, but seem to be turning.

I'm thinking back to two years ago when you had an analyst meeting and talked about like a 4% type of growth for the Company as a whole top line.

I was curious if we could revisit that, and maybe talk about your comfort level around that as a secular trend, if some of these market do show some more modest recovery?

And then I had a follow-up.

I think that the major change that we've seen since -- gee when was that, analyst day a couple years ago -- is that we've seen -- we saw a more severe contraction, in terms of the PC market.

It was probably the principal thing that we saw.

Maybe some other changes in terms of other markets, but I think the biggest driver of that was PCs.

Right now if we were to call the TAM, we would say that we'd be looking at maybe flattish to slightly small single-digit increases with -- given that we're moving to a richer mix underneath those numbers, maybe modest single-digit revenue increase.

That is still with pretty -- if you want to call it conservative, I mean, we still have to continue to see how sustainable the PC market is, from a longer-term perspective.

And so, but as we see more encouraging signs in the PC market, we may adjust that.

But I think that's kind of where we're at right now.

I appreciate the color.

And then just, Steve, one follow-up on what you mentioned with the PCIe roadmap.

Can you qualitatively talk about how all these acquisitions are coming together and timeframe for maybe seeing something public that we could start to understand how far along you are?

Yes.

I think that certainly this quarter, we'll have some things that will talk about and some things will continue into the end of the year, in terms of new product introductions.

We'll get more visibility on that.

Not only that, I think we will begin to see some more meaningful, I'll call it revenue accretion from the acquisitions, and again, as Tim indicated in his prepared remarks, we are on course to have those acquisitions be accretive in the first part of 2015.

So I would say that on balance, the acquisitions are tracking to our expectations.

Great, that's very helpful.

Thanks again.

Rob Cihra, Evercore.

Thanks very much.

I wonder if I could just get a little more into sort of the pricing and competitive dynamics in the market, and if you look at the quarter, you gained some share sequentially, and I realize there's some mix elements in there, including gaming, of course.

That's probably transient.

I just wondered if you see market share shift, in some sense it seems positive, but then sort of the pessimistic side of you says, oh God, if market share is moving around, that means that pricing is more competitive or that there's any kind of competitive posturing going on.

Do you see any of that working its way into the market, given that we have had a awfully good market for the past couple of years?

Or am I being too cautious and is it simply just a quarter-to-quarter movement based on mix and that sort of thing?

Thanks.

Yes, Rob I can certainly appreciate the concern.

I think that if you look at what happened -- that is not what happened.

There was not any particular pricing dynamics that drove those share shifts.

We talked about this before on a quarter-to-quarter basis, share can move around a point or two.

Depending upon the circumstances.

Clearly the areas that -- we went into the quarter anticipating that we would gain share, because we, for frankly, a number of years, have had a particular strength with the gaming customers.

And seasonally, we knew that was going to be particularly strong in calendar Q2.

So that was no surprise to us, and was expected.

I think the thing that, if you want to call it, surprised us, was notebook PCs were stronger than what we expected.

Through both of our subsidiaries, we have a strong position in that market, and given our model, and I would say that at some level, advantaged margin structure, we were able to take advantage of that maybe a little bit easier than other guys.

But it wasn't because of any particular pricing dynamics.

Okay.

Thanks very much.

Great.

Joe Wittine, Longbow Research.

I wanted to ask on the guidance here, just to clarify, does it include a full 14th week of sales, because if it does, implied seasonality is down a few points, at least at the midpoint.

Within that, if you could address the seasonal trends by your different buckets on a sequential basis, that would help.

It does include the 14th week of sales.

It's pretty hard to identify how much of it is a difference, versus what would normally be a 13-week, because as you know, with the way that the dynamics of the quarters go, generally there's a fairly strong 13th week, and then the first week of the following quarter tends to be driven by outside factors, by customer behavior, et cetera.

So consequently, it's hard for us to figure out exactly how much.

We've taken a shot at it obviously -- we're up 7% to 8%.

It does include the anticipated uplift that we would get as well coming off the weaker June quarter, we would anticipate in normal circumstances, even the 13th week situation, we'd expect some low single-digit increase from the June quarter to the September quarter, and then some element of a full week that we've loaded in for the beginning of the first week of the new quarter, which now becomes our 14th week.

As Steve has indicated, we're moving up from somewhere around $138 million or so to around $145 million.

In those numbers, we have anticipated the 14th.

That's really helpful.

Thanks.

And can you just briefly address on a pure organic basis, how you've seen the individual segments trending on a unit basis into September, if excluding the additional week?

We expect that gaming will stay strong.

We expect that notebook will continue to retain its strength.

We expect retail, in particular, to be seasonally strong.

And we are also expecting some level of come back in capacity enterprise, and we're expecting performance enterprise to continue its strength, as well.

Just to make it real simple, basically we're expecting reasonable growth, which means that we're seeing reasonable strength in all segments, except for gaming.

Not that we're not seeing strength in gaming, but gaming from a TAM perspective will be roughly flat.

Everything else should be up a bit.

Very helpful, thanks.

Amit Daryanani, RBC Capital Markets.

Two questions for me.

One, I was wondering if you could just touch on the cash conversion cycle.

It's set up corrected pretty steadily over the last several years.

I'm curious, you have this target of 4 to 8 days.

What's it take for you to get -- is it the pool of MOFCOM, or can you get the way the structure is today?

Our 4 to 8 days is really pre-acquisition model, which is more for our client business, rather than enterprise business.

And we've held off from revising it because of the fact that, since we are operating two separate businesses, it's -- it could be a wasted effort until we manage to get over the challenges on efficiency that we have from MOFCOM.

So it's something that we're watching, something that we're really paying attention to.

I think we've got opportunity in inventory, in particular.

Although we are funding inventory -- funding finished goods, in order to improve our cost, and also to invite capital expenditure, because we're trying to operate linearly, so that we don't have to deal with spikes and have equipment and all the deal with spikes.

We're also trying to be cognizant of the challenges in the supply chain so we're also trying to have a friendlier approach towards the DPOs, as well.

But we've got a high mix from an enterprise viewpoint, and from a regional viewpoint, we've got a high mix of OEM customers, and that does put a little bit of a crimp on the DSOs.

That's helpful.

And then as a follow-on, I was wondering if you could touch on 6 terabyte helium-based drives that you have for enterprise markets.

I believe Seagate has a comparable 6-terabyte drive, not based on helium.

But are you seeing a better adoption of these high-capacity drives, especially entering the back half, given the fact that customers now have a dual source option in that space?

The first thing that I would say is that the introduction of our 6 terabyte helium-filled drive, really two things -- one, it has been well received in the marketplace, and two, it is meeting our expectations from a volume perspective.

The second thing that I would say, which we talked about before, is that the 6 terabyte product that we introduced was principally -- I would call it a technology demonstration.

Not that it's not a real product, I don't want to imply that.

But from a customer perspective, we want to say look, this is a platform that we are introducing, that we want you to get comfortable with.

We will continue to introduce follow-on products from a helium filled perspective that we believe very competitive in the marketplace, and we also believe will drive further increases from a volume perspective.

So the 6 terabyte product was not an end-all to be-all, so to speak.

Thanks a lot, and congrats on the quarter.

Katy Huberty, Morgan Stanley.

Given the incremental units in revenue in the September quarter from the 14th week, does that create a flat to down sequential trend in December?

Do you think the industry can still grow sequentially, even though you're comping that 14th week?

And then I have a follow-up.

Katy, I think that's a very good question.

I think it's a little bit too early to call.

But if we were to look at it today, we would probably see a decrease going into calendar Q4.

If nothing else, really two things.

One, seasonality has shifted over time.

Q4 is not as strong as it used to be.

People are putting things on boats to save, in terms of transportation cost, and those kinds of things.

And also going from a 14th week to a 13th week will impact our volumes.

And so at this point, we would expect that we would be down going into calendar Q4.

The question is how much, and it's too early to call that.

Okay, and then given the strong outlook for the September quarter, better visibility among PC OEMs.

Why not step up the share buyback, given you're running at higher cash levels versus your peer?

It is something that we look at on an ongoing basis.

We're currently pursuing the plan that we outlined in September 2012 at the investor day, and we recently, actually twice in the past year, we increased the dividend, but we're continuing to execute on the plan for 50% of free cash flow.

We're falling sometimes down a little ahead of it, sometimes falling behind, and this last quarter we did actually about 62% or so of free cash flow.

But it's something we evaluate on an ongoing basis.

It was a pretty big change for us in the Company, so consequently, it's something that we do on a measured basis, but it's something that's on the radar screen all the time.

Great.

Thank you very much.

Monika Garg, Pacific Crest Securities.

If you look at the last quarter, you had talked about some of the inventory addition at some of the cloud customers, and then rearchitecting of systems and enterprise customers.

You've talked about that you expect a strength in that quarter to quarter, but could you maybe talk more qualitatively the demand trends you're seeing from your cloud customers?

I think from a cloud customer perspective, it ties on a comment I made earlier -- we are continuing to see an order flow and the sentiment of our customers improve.

Somewhat gradually, again it's not a step function increase, but we believe that we're going to continue to see an improving demand profile as we move through the back half of the year.

And so some of the issues that we talked about last quarter on our call, those have been resolved, and sorted out, and we're looking at a more favorable demand environment.

Thanks.

The last one for me.

Does that respective issues close, so could you maybe talk about if you are seeing any impact on the share in the enterprise market because of that acquisition by Seagate or the test equipment support from Teradyne or from Veritec?

There's been no impact related to that.

Thank you.

Thank you very much for joining us today, and for your interest in Western Digital.

I would like to close by thanking our employees worldwide for their dedication and performance throughout FY14, and our shareholders for their continued support.

We look forward to keeping you informed of our future progress.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This does conclude the conference.

You may disconnect at this time.