威騰電子 (WDC) 2007 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Good afternoon.

Thank you for standing by.

Welcome to Western Digital's fourth-quarter financial results for fiscal year 2007.

Presently, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.

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As a reminder, this call is being recorded.

Now I will turn the call over to Mr.

Bob Blair.

You may begin.

Thank you.

We will be making forward-looking statements in our comments and our response to your questions concerning our expectations regarding supply and demand conditions in the hard drive industry and growth in the market for hard drives, the anticipated closing date of our acquisition of Komag and our beliefs regarding the advantages and synergies of sourcing media internally.

Continuation of our plans to enhance our ability to compete as a full-line industry leader, our plans for upgrading and expanding our Fremont wafer facility, and the expected production date of our first 8-in.

pilot line, our expectations regarding environmental and other benefits of our new GreenPower drive technology, the effects of seasonality in the September quarter, our capital expenditure plans for fiscal 2008, and our current financial outlook for revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, earnings per share, and other key metrics, including a possible non-cash tax charge in the September quarter.

These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially including those listed in our Form 10-Q filed with the SEC on May 8, 2007, as well as the additional risk factors reported in the press release included as Exhibit 99.1 to the Form 8-K we furnished the SEC today.

We undertake no obligation to update our forward-looking statements to reflect new information or events and you should not assume later in the quarter the comments we make today are still valid.

I would now like to turn the call over to John Coyne, Chief Executive Officer and President of Western Digital.

John?

Thank you, Bob.

Good afternoon and thank you for joining us.

With me here today are CFO, Steve Milligan and Executive Vice President Finance, Tim Leyden.

Following my remarks, Steve will provide the financial report for the fourth quarter and the full fiscal year 2007 and Tim will provide our outlook for the September quarter.

Fiscal 2007 was another great year for Western Digital, capped off with the solid fourth-quarter financial performance reported earlier today.

Customer satisfaction with WD's broad product line, superior quality and reliability, service excellence, and overall value proposition continues to drive our business growth.

We're very pleased with the continued consistent performance of the efficient business model that we have built and refined over the last several years.

The FY '07 numbers provide further evidence of steady financial performance and continued excellence in execution by the WD team.

I will take a few moments to review these achievements and I will then move on to our review of the storage market's bright future and the actions we are taking to position WD for continued success.

Revenue in fiscal 2007 was $5.5 billion, an increase of 26% from last year.

Earnings per share of $2.59 compare with $1.76 per share in the fiscal 2006, a 47% increase.

We generated over $600 million in cash from operations during fiscal 2007, a 68% improvement over 2006 and ended the year with $907 million in cash and short-term investments, an increase of 30% over the prior year.

Fiscal 2007 represented our fifth consecutive year of substantial growth in our research and development and capital spending to support a significant deepening and acceleration of our technology capability, and a broadening of our product portfolio.

Over the five-year period, we have grown our investment spending 270% from $170 million in fiscal 2002 to $630 million in fiscal 2007.

While maintaining our focus in the high-volume desktop business, we have made major strides in growing our footprint in nontraditional markets, such as 2.5-in.

notebook drives, branded products, consumer electronics, and Serial ATA drives for the enterprise space.

We more than doubled our 2.5-in.

drive shipments year-over-year to 12.3 million units.

Our branded products business grew revenue by over 180% year-over-year to more than $870 million.

In enterprise SATA, the fastest-growing segment of enterprise storage, we led the industry in introducing 3.5-in.

SATA solutions in 2003.

Our share in this segment is now similar to our position in the desktop and CE markets.

As a result of this activity in newer markets, we have seen our revenue from non desktop PC drives expand to 43% of revenue in fiscal 2007 compared with 29% in fiscal 2006.

And we exit the year with almost 50% of revenue derived from non desktop applications.

Reflecting the continued return on our technology investments, we began shipping a bevy of new products based on three new WD technology platforms during the quarter.

These include a 125 GB per platter 2.5-in.

series of products, resulting in a WD Scorpio drive with 250 GB of capacity.

A high performance 3.5-in.

platform for desktop, CE branded and enterprise applications offering up to 750 GB.

And the new AV family of 3.5-in.

drives specifically developed to address the requirements of the DVR, PVR, and surveillance video marketplaces.

The new 250 GB 2.5 in.

WD Scorpio notebook drive is the clear time to volume market leader with significant OEM and distribution shipments in the quarter.

This is our third generation 2.5-in.

drive and second generation utilizing PMR, and incorporates proprietary WD head technologies, as well as significant feature innovation.

WD branded products is also shipping this drive in the popular 4 oz.

USB WD Passport Portable Drive.

Our first 3.5-in.

WD Caviar drives that implement PMR technology store up to 750 GB and have a unique combination of WD features that maximize performance, optimize power, operate at low temperatures, and offer high shock and vibration tolerance.

Off the same platform is the WD RE enterprise drive, which offers 3/4 of a terabyte for high duty cycle applications, such as servers and capacity-intensive network storage.

Branded products, new My DVR Expander also incorporates this drive to solve a growing need for capacity for high definition TV entertainment.

This device adds as much as 60 hours of high definition recording or 300 hours of standard definition TV programming.

Now, I would like to turn to the future.

This is a great time to be involved in the global hard drive industry.

Applications for hard drives continue to proliferate in both computing and consumer markets, as both workplace and lifestyle changes continue to generate massive volumes of content to be stored securely, conveniently, and cost effectively on hard drives.

The HTD market in 2006 generated revenues in excess of $30 billion with 435 million hard drives shipped.

Forecasted demand for 2007 exceeds 500 million units.

On a unit basis, the hard drive market is looking at a five-year compound annual growth rate of approximately 13%.

The strongest growth segments are expected to be enterprise Serial Apples-to-apples, forecasted for nearly 40% growth, 3.5-in.

CE at more than 30%, 2.5-in.

notebook and 2.5-in.

CE each above 20%, branded products, a category which has surged to industry prominence in the last year, is forecasted to grow at 25% over the next five years, as consumers and increasingly mobile workers continue to seek intuitive, well-designed external storage applications to securely store and access their digital content.

At WD, we're very excited about all of these opportunities for growth, both for the near-term as we head into the seasonally strong second half of the calendar year, and as we address the longer-term prospects represented in these industry forecasts.

I would like to highlight some of the important steps we are taking to ensure our continued success in addressing these outstanding market opportunities.

We have made and continue to make investments in the technologies, the infrastructure that will enhance our ability to compete as a full-line industry leader with the product portfolio required to capitalize on these growth trends, and the capacity and cost structure to do so efficiently and profitably.

Our previously announced plan to upgrade and expand our Fremont wafer facility is underway.

Our first 8-in.

pilot line is expected to the introduction by the end of calendar 2008.

We are highly focused on bringing our recently announced acquisition of Komag to fruition.

We remain confident in the advantages and synergies that will accrue to WD over the long-term in having an internal media operation.

We expect to close the transaction within this quarter and will hold a separate conference call at that time to provide further perspective on this important step and to clarify the impact of an integrated media business on our model going forward.

To date, we have commenced our tender offer.

We have submitted our requests for regulatory approvals with the appropriate authorities and the waiting period under U.S.

antitrust regulations has expired.

A joint WD Komag integration planning team has been established and is making good progress in preparation for plan closing.

In another strategic initiative, we recently completed the acquisition of Senvid, a software company well known for its MioNet software product.

The innovative remote access and sharing service that distinguishes the WD My Book World Edition from competitive offerings.

The Senvid team is being integrated into our branded products business unit and will further accelerate the development of innovative, simple, and elegant WD storage appliances and services for consumers.

The terms of this modest but important acquisition will not be disclosed.

This week, we announced yet another significant WD Company and product line initiative.

This is the industry's first line of 3.5-in.

drives designed primarily to reduce power consumption and help protect the environment, WD GreenPower hard drives.

Our recently announced 1 terabyte drive introduces this new product category.

Many of our customers have been asking for low-power drive technology.

The WD GreenPower drives have been designed specifically to reduce power consumption far below other 3.5-in.

drives in the market today, as much as 40% less than 1 terabyte drives available from competitors.

WD branded products is now shipping My Book appliances incorporating this technology that can store 2 terabytes of music, photos, video, and other content.

Subsequent applications for WD's GreenPower drive technology will be in consumer electronics and the enterprise.

Large enterprise data centers employing WD GreenPower drive technology will save hundreds of thousands of dollars annually in electricity costs and will reduce carbon emissions by thousands of metric tons.

We're very excited about the opportunities our customers will have to reduce energy costs and minimize their impact on the environment.

I will now turn the call over to Steve Milligan for the Q4 financial report.

Steve?

Thanks, John.

Revenue for the fourth fiscal quarter was $1.4 billion and unit shipments totaled $24.9 million, increasing by 26% and 30%, respectively, from the prior year.

Average selling prices were approximately $55 per unit, down $3 from the March quarter and $1 from the prior year, reflecting normal seasonal price declines and changes in product mix.

We shipped 3.8 million 2.5-in.

mobile drives in the June quarter as compared to 3.7 million in the March quarter and 1.6 million in the year-ago quarter.

Our growth in this important high-volume market demonstrates a broadening acceptance of our products in mobile applications.

Turning to consumer electronics, we shipped approximately 2.7 million units for use in digital video recorders in the June quarter versus 2.6 million in the March quarter and 2.2 million in the year-ago quarter.

Revenue by channel was 47% OEM, 36% distribution and 17% branded products versus 47% OEM, 34% distribution, and 19% branded products for the March quarter.

We had one greater than 10% customer for the quarter and that was Dell.

The Q4 geographic split of our business was 40% Americas, 26% Europe, and 34% Asia as compared to 36% Americas, 29% Europe, and 35% Asia in the March quarter.

Our gross margin percentage for the quarter was 15.0% versus 15.8% in the March quarter, reflecting typical seasonal factors.

Operating expenses totaled $125 million.

Operating income was $79 million or 5.8% of revenue.

Net interest and other income totaled approximately $8 million.

Income taxes for the June quarter netted to a benefit of $146 million and included a $147 million favorable adjustment to the Company's valuation allowance for deferred tax assets.

Net income totaled $233 million or $1.03 per share.

For the full year, WD reported revenue of $5.5 billion, net income of $585 million and diluted earnings per share of $2.59.

Full-year net income included the $147 million favorable tax adjustment.

Turning to the balance sheet, our cash and short-term investments at the end of the quarter totaled $907 million, an increase of $32 million from the March quarter.

Cash generated from operations during the quarter totaled $154 million.

For the full year, we generated over $600 million in cash flow from operations.

Capital expenditures for the quarter were $85 million.

Non-cash charges for depreciation and amortization expense totaled $61 million.

Capital additions for fiscal 2007 totaled $402 million and included investments in advanced head technology, new product platforms and capacity for our broadening and growing product portfolio.

Depreciation and amortization expense for fiscal 2007 was $210 million.

We repurchased 2.5 million shares of common stock during the June quarter for approximately $45 million.

Since May 2004, we have repurchased 14.2 million shares at a total cost of $188 million.

A total of $62 million remains under our existing stock repurchase authorization.

Our cash conversion cycle for the quarter was a negative three days, consisting of 46 days of receivables, 20 days of inventory or 18 turns and 69 days of payables outstanding.

I will now turn the call over to Tim Leyden, who will cover our outlook for the September quarter.

Tim?

Thank you, Steve.

This outlook is provided on a WD stand-alone basis.

It does not incorporate the impact from the potential acquisition of Komag.

We will provide updated guidance after the planned acquisition closes.

We currently expected a relatively typical seasonal September quarter.

Demand, albeit very back-end loaded, is expected to increase from the June quarter as we enter the seasonally stronger back half of the calendar year.

We expect price declines to be within seasonal norms.

Accordingly, we estimate revenue for the September quarter to be between $1.45 billion and $1.5 billion.

We expect to gross margins for the September quarter to be between 15.5% and 16%.

Operating expenses are projected to be approximately $126 million.

Net interest and other income is expected to be approximately $7 million.

As Steve mentioned, we reduce our valuation allowance for deferred tax assets during the quarter.

Going forward, this will result in a higher effective tax rate for financial statement purposes because we have now substantially recognized the future benefits of existing NOLs, tax credits, and other tax deductions.

But our fiscal 2008 effective tax rate is currently expected to increase to approximately 10%.

However, on a cash basis, we expect payments for income taxes to remain around 2% of our pretax earnings until our tax assets are fully utilized.

Our share count for the September quarter is expected to remain flat.

Accordingly, we estimate earnings per share of between $0.43 and $0.47 for the September quarter.

I would emphasize that this EPS range reflects the increase in our effective tax rate referred to above.

With respect to capital, we expect capital additions for fiscal 2008 to be between 600 and $650 million, including approximately $200 million for the previously announced expansion of our head wafer fabrication capacity.

Depreciation and amortization for the year is expected to be between 270 and $290 million.

Again, all of the aforementioned amounts exclude any impact of our pending Komag acquisition.

We will now open the call for questions.

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Rob Semple.

Thanks.

Credit Suisse.

Guys, if you could maybe talk a little bit more about the demand environment.

You seem relatively bullish.

If you compare that to Seagate's commentary about the TAM increasing 15%, do you think that's a reasonable assumption for the third calendar quarter?

Our review of the calendar quarter would be that it's shaping up to be typically seasonal.

That would imply to us a growth rate more in the 12% range based on the product mix that we have to offer and the segments of the market in which we participate.

Okay.

And then just one follow-up.

Where do you think industry channel inventory is at this point?

Channel inventory for ourselves and the industry has been in the four to six weeks range.

So it continues to be well-controlled, Rob.

Okay, thanks.

Rich Kugele.

Yes, Needham & Co.

A couple of questions.

First, on the branded side, especially since it's so critical to your business now, can you talk about what you are seeing there from the pricing perspective?

We've been hearing from some other companies how it's increased in aggression.

And from a margin perspective, just looking at the segment, how does it compare to some of your other business lines, desktop, mobile, etc.?

I think overall, branded is a great business, which, on a global basis, is growing rapidly.

We've seen a lot of traction in the industry in branded over the last year.

That's been reflected in its growth in importance to our overall business.

I think that success has been driven not only by the demand in the marketplace, but by the Western Digital product offering and the Western Digital partners in terms of accessing that market.

So, it continues to be of significant importance to us.

We believe it's a growth area for the future for everyone in the industry, as well as for WD.

It has a positive margin profile, it's accretive to our business.

And, however, like every element of the drive business, it remains a competitive space, and one needs the appropriate model from a business perspective to prosecute it successfully.

Okay.

And then I guess Tim, just a couple quick finance questions.

For the fourth fiscal quarter, if we were going to ex out this deferred tax asset change here, what should we have assumed for the tax rate and then does that imply something like a $0.38 number?

I just wanted to make sure my math is right.

The tax rate assuming the -- or excluding the valuation allowance would have been in like the 1 to 2% range.

So you're right, it would have been around $0.38 from an EPS perspective.

And then looking at the full fiscal '08 year, should we assume this 10% throughout the year?

What's important to remember there is that our cash effective tax rate is still at 2% and will remain at that level for a number of years.

We continue to evaluate the tax planning opportunities that could help mitigate the increase in the cash tax rate once our tax assets are fully utilized.

This tax planning will also need to incorporate any effects from the Komag acquisition.

And we will bring you up to date over the -- once the tax planning has been settled upon.

Currently, the 10% is a pretty good number to use for planning purposes.

Okay, and then just the last question is about this green line.

What trade-off did you have to make to make these lower power?

Is there any type of for performance differences or what was the give-and-take from a technology perspective?

I think the objective of the GreenPower product line is to provide customers with choices.

The particular optimization in the GreenPower series is focused on power consumption while delivering solid performance characteristics.

In our other product lines in 3.5-in., we are offering high performance, the 750 GB products announced in June and shipping in June has the highest performance in the marketplace for a 750 GB drive.

So, those are the optimizations that we do to address specific market characteristics, specific customer requirements, and we will offer -- continue to offer multiple choices to customers in terms of what characteristics are important to them.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

David Bailey.

Goldman Sachs.

Just a quick question.

Your volumes of 2.5-in.

drive continue to increase and you're rolling out more PMRs here.

What progress have you made on the gross margin side?

And are your notebook gross margins equal to your desktop drives at this point?

David, we continue to see the gross margin profile in the notebook space improve despite the fact that that remains a pretty competitive space from a pricing perspective.

So we are making good progress from a cost perspective.

And I'm sorry, what was the second part of your question?

It was just all rolled into one.

Are they equal to the desktop margins yet?

Oh, our desktop margins, they still are below the corporate average, but they are improving.

And then awhile back, you talked about entering enterprise and gaming segments.

Can you give us an update on this and has that taken a lower priority now that you have the Komag integration in front of you?

No, I think our commitment to provide our customers with full line support remains.

Our commitment to profitably grow the business remains.

We have many current opportunities with the current product set to continue to grow the business, but we are, as we indicated previously, looking at the remaining areas in which we don't currently participate and as our judgment of opportunity and fit to our business model matures, we will go at that.

I think we've, in terms of the impact of the Komag integration, while certainly that will require our attention, our track record of integrating component businesses has been that they fuel rather than hinder the prosecution of the overall business for us.

Thank you.

Jeff Brickman.

UBS.

Just wanted to ask a couple of questions, one on desktop growth.

Seemed very solid in the quarter.

Can you just talk about both the price and even the demand environment that you experienced?

Yes, I think the -- as an overall statement both in notebook and desktop environments, pricing in the last quarter continued to be competitive.

I think as we look forward into the traditional stronger seasonal period in the next couple of quarters, we've already begun to see evidence of our customers understanding that supply is a critical element as well as pricing.

And so I expect that we will see our customer set placing more value on supply and the ability of companies to reinvest in the technologies and the product breadth that will support their future needs.

And just from a demand perspective, it seems like obviously Dell is back now to above 10%.

Did you see kind of an uptick specifically from them in desktop or was it more a statement of just overall growth being there?

I think it was a pretty healthy quarter for the industry.

And modest movement in our overall product mix affects that largest customer issue.

So, I wouldn't see any really significant movement there.

It was a very marginal thing.

Okay, and then just lastly, back to branded again; I know it's kind of been asked.

But obviously growth here continues to be solid, but it seems like it slowed a little bit from the previous quarter.

Are you seeing anything specifically from a competitive perspective or even market share or price perspective that's driving that or is it just kind of the seasonal part of the year where you think you'd see maybe a little bit of slowness?

I think the primary influence was the slowness.

I think branded is more seasonal in the June quarter than most of the other business segments.

Great.

Thanks a lot.

Mark Miller.

Mark Miller with Brean Murray.

Just wondering since we're talking about branded products, what do you attribute your success in that market?

It's certainly grown very significantly for you.

I think, Mark, the critical success factors have been our product line in that the product itself both in its industrial design and in its software-embedded features make it extremely easy to use and extremely intuitive for our customers.

And then I think our channel partners, who take that product to market, I think our relationships there and our choice of those channels and the way we work with them has been a significant element of our success.

You're kind of projecting a 12%, CH projecting 12 to 15%.

To me, that's a very healthy September quarter.

At the same time, however, I think implicit in your projections and also CH a fairly stiff degree of price erosion.

And I guess historically, when we've seen a quarter that's going 12, 15% sequential growth, that it's unusual to see that much price erosion.

Are you guys being conservative or you really feel we're going to continue in that vein?

We are putting it together, Mark, from a historical seasonal perspective.

We'll have to wait and see how it shapes up.

But as you know, this is a very back-end loaded quarter.

It's really September that's decides the outcome.

One final question.

Any -- can you give us any feeling on where you are at in the perpendicular ramp in terms of percentages either in the June quarter or the next quarter, will you be up to 40, 50 or more percent in the September quarter of total drive ships being perpendicular?

Well, you know, Mark, we don't focus on that element.

We focus on the performance of the business and tuning the business model to the customer requirements.

What I can say is that virtually all of our 2.5-in.

programs shipping today are on PMR.

We have several programs in the 3.5-in.

space that are shipping off PMR.

And we will continue to blend the technologies in use to satisfy our business model and our customers' requirements for capacity, quality, and reliability.

Just -- and I guess why it's interesting to me and maybe other people is that the general belief is that as you convert to PMR, and other people reported it that your yields improve.

So we're just trying to factor in if there -- how much upside there might be from the conversion of a launch in [two-wheel] of the same density to a PMR driver, the same density or capacity.

See my point?

I understand your point exactly.

I think you have to look to the bottom-line performance of the Company and its competitors to determine whether that's a good metric to be monitoring.

All right.

Thank you.

Christian Schwab.

Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

I have a quick question.

Do you think, Steve, that you'll have a decent opportunity for mix-up in September as far as high capacity drives within the desktop or do you think that will follow historical standards and be more of a December quarter event?

Right now we're mapping historical seasonal performance.

I will say, however, that we have seen a tightness particularly in the 500 GB 3.5-in.

space.

There appears to be significantly stronger demand around that capacity point than the industry is currently geared to support.

Okay.

So that would be in line with what we've been hearing that your largest competitor stopped discounting that drive and you guys followed suit.

Are you seeing -- do you think that comes down to the 250 GB or do you think it just remains at that capacity point?

Can you explain why the demand there would be so much stronger than anticipated?

I think we are, perhaps, seeing an emergence of a series of strong capacity points -- 250, 500, 1 terabyte that are, to some extent, breaking the pattern of the 160, 320 pattern that was in existence previously.

And so I think we are seeing some conversion of what historically, if you trended from a historical basis, demand that would have been 320 demand has migrated up to 500.

And so I think that's why we're seeing a stronger than typical trend pattern on the 500 GB capacity point, and the industry is adjusting itself to support it.

Fantastic.

And then just to -- on OEM pricing, the terms for the September quarter, was there anything out of the ordinary there in regards to certain OEMs being any more or less aggressive than you typically have seen?

No.

I wouldn't -- we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary.

Great.

Fabulous.

No further questions.

Thanks.

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Andrew Neff.

Bear Stearns.

Just to clarify two things.

One, when you report your numbers going forward, which tax rate are you going to show next year?

We're going to show the financial statements tax rate.

The onetime.

10%.

You'll use a 10% tax rate?

Around 10%.

Yes.

And then how long will that tax rate run for?

As I indicated, we are evaluating tax planning at the moment, which could mitigate the increase in our cash tax rate once our tax assets are fully utilized.

And the Komag acquisition, the potential Komag acquisition, will actually have to be taken into account in that tax planning.

And that will impact the amount of time.

But for right now, it looks like about two to three years under the current situation.

Okay.

And EPS, so the EPS you gave were based on that 10%.

Okay.

And lastly, just on a competitive basis, any sense of or general comments on competitive environment, any supply constraints you see out there?

I don't see any significant supply constraints.

We're seeing good seasonal demand and hopefully that will continue.

Thank you.

Paul Mansky.

Yes, it's Citigroup.

Best of my recollection, this is the first time you've actually talked a little bit more specifically about your enterprise endeavors in that you actually called out some rough market share mentioned.

Can you drill down a little bit further, maybe even go so far as to talk about absolute unit volumes there, just to provide us some context?

Well, we're not going to go there on this call, but yes, I think it's probable that in the future, we will see the industry categorize that enterprise SATA space, either as part of the enterprise or as a unique subset of the enterprise.

Okay, and I apologize if you mentioned this, I was talking through a few different calls.

But, did you call out exactly what stock-based compensation was in the quarter?

It was similar to what -- we don't break that out separately, Paul, but it's similar to what we've seen in prior quarters which, it gets disclosed I guess in our SEC filings, but it's been in the like 4 to $5 million range.

Great.

Thank you very much.

Christian Schwab.

Great.

I'm sorry, the movement on your desktop drives from 80 to 160 and the single platter solution, can you give us an update on where you stand there?

We are --

As far as maybe possible percentage of units that are shipping at the 160 level, where you'd expect it to end at the end of the calendar year?

I think I can tell you that we are shipping a mix of desktop products that's pretty similar to the mix in the industry, and that that's being delivered off of a variety of technologies that meet our business model.

Thank you.

I would now like to turn the call over to Mr.

John Coyne.

Thanks, Holly.

So in closing, I'm very excited about the outstanding opportunities for growth in the storage demand.

I'm confident that the WD team values of passion, action, productivity, perseverance, innovation, and integrity will continue to drive profitable growth for the Company and create value for all of our stakeholders as we address the opportunities in the months and years ahead.

I thank all of you for joining us today and look forward to reporting on our progress in the next call.

Thank you.

This does conclude the conference call.

You may disconnect at this time.

Have a great day.