Neuronetics Inc (STIM) 2024 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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Mark Costner.

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Good morning and thank you for joining us for the Neuronetics third quarter, 2024 conference call.

Joining me on today's call are Neuronetics President and Chief Executive Officer Keith Sullivan and Chief Financial Officer Steve Furlong.

Before we begin, I would like to caution listeners that certain information discussed by management during this conference call will include forward-looking statements covered under the safe harbor provisions of the private securities litigation reform Act of 1,995 including statements related to our business strategy, financial and revenue guidance, the Green Brook acquisition and other operational issues and metrics.

Actual results can differ materially from those stated or implied by these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business.

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It's my pleasure to turn the call over to Neuronetics President and Chief Executive Officer Keith Sullivan.

Mark.

Thanks for the introduction.

Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us today.

I'll begin by providing an overview of our recent performance.

Then discuss the status of the Green Brook acquisition.

Steve will then review our financial results and I'll conclude with some thoughts on the balance of 2024.

Before turning to Q&A let me start with our performance in the quarter.

Total revenue was 18.5 million an increase of 4% over the third quarter of 2023.

Neurostar system revenue was 4.1 million.

During the quarter, we shipped 49 systems us treatment session revenue was 13.3 million which represents a 2% increase compared to the third quarter of 2023.

I'd like to turn to our acquisition of Green Brook P MS.

Last week, our shareholders approved the transaction which we expect to close during the fourth quarter.

We are incredibly excited about what this means for our organization, the employees of the combined company, our patients and customers, as well as our shareholders.

Today, we are laser focused on driving the long term success of the combined company as we work together to integrate and optimize the new neuronetics.

We have a comprehensive proactive approach that focuses on three key areas to increase shareholder value, operating, expense reduction, operational efficiencies and profitable revenue growth.

Starting with OpEx control.

When we announced the transaction, we estimated synergies to be approximately $15 million.

As we dug deeper into both our and Green Brooks Operation, we have identified an incremental $5 million bringing the new cost energy target to approximately 20 million.

We have taken definitive action to take costs out that will benefit both businesses.

On November 8th, we implemented a strategic reorganization of neuronetics streamlining departments to support our combined business model and reducing costs of programs that no longer align with our go forward strategy.

This reorganizational loan will generate approximately $3.5 million in annualized expense reduction with the remaining 16.5 million in annualized synergies to be realized throughout 2024 and 2025.

These synergies include a $6 million reduction in combined marketing spend along with additional savings from consolidating back office functions.

Turning to the operational efficiencies.

Our operational efficiency initiatives are centered on optimizing our commercial organization including our commercial team structure, the way we target customers and patients and how we train our employees.

We are beginning with a reinvigorated focus on driving improved productivity across both Green Brook sites and our existing customers to support this.

We are in the process of introducing a more efficient data driven approach to help increase patient flow into Green Brook and our other neurostar sites.

We have done an analysis of physician prescription trends in our key markets which has allowed us to identify psychiatrists and other providers who are currently treating patients for depression or other mental health disorders within a 10 mile radius of a Green Brook or a neurostar site.

Using this information, field personnel will be able for the first time to actively target providers who have patients who qualify for T MS or Spravato and will then be able to help institute a process for rapidly directing those patients who are seeking an alternative to antidepressants into a Green Brook or a Neurostar site.

We expect that this will allow us to be significantly more efficient at driving patient volume versus traditional broad based marketing efforts.

Another benefit of this data is that it allows us to more effectively allocate resources to territories and to enhance our efforts to reach the greatest number of patients and rationalize coverage areas.

However, simply identifying potential patient referrals isn't enough to improve site productivity.

We need to put best practices in place to allow our field personnel to educate providers on connecting patients with a Green Brook or other Neurostar site.

What we know from our study of patient experience is there is a significant drop off in patients continuing into T MS therapy.

If they are not contacted almost immediately after expressing interest in the treatment, we are in the process of developing a comprehensive training program for our field personnel, which ensures that providers who are looking for an alternative to traditional pharmaceutical options for their patients are fully educated on our offerings and how they fit with a patient's care continuum.

Under this new process, patients who qualify for one of those services will be immediately contacted by one of our providers to begin the process of exploring the next step in their treatment paradigm to complement this.

We are also developing a training protocol for our field personnel related to managing the patient care continuum.

This ensures that Green Brook sites as well as our other neurostar customers are well versed on how to help patients move on to the next step in their treatment.

This includes the progression from traditional medical therapy to the most appropriate next therapy, whether it's T MS or Spravato.

And if they do not achieve the desired result, continuing on to the therapy, they have not yet tried well, we have been working with Green Brook over the last few quarters to operationalize key tenets of our Better me provider program.

We are scheduling comprehensive training in November at neurostar University to ensure consistent implementation of our new commercial structure and priorities.

This includes establishing a patient review process to ensure optimal treatment outcomes across our network.

Beyond cost and operational efficiencies.

We are also focused on driving revenue growth.

We are aggressively optimizing and expanding the ability to offer spravato into all appropriate Greenbrook clinics and implementing the buy and build program across all sites that offer spravato treatment.

There are currently 83 Green Brook sites utilizing Spravato and we are planning to expand to all facilities in 2025 to maximize the revenue potential of our eruo program.

We are implementing a buy and bill model across all treatment sites.

Under this model, Greenbrook directly purchases and maintains drug inventory at each practice location.

Green Brook then builds the patient insurance provider for both the drug itself as well as the administration and observation services.

While this requires managing medication inventory, it results in a higher overall reimbursement compared to billing for administration services.

This enhanced reimbursement structure creates an additional revenue stream alongside our T MS treatments.

As previously outlined, one of the key benefits of this transaction is that our scale allows us to provide broader service offerings to all of our customers.

First, we can leverage our combined network of approximately 400 customer sites across Green Brook and B MP customers to negotiate favorable regional and national payer contracts.

Negotiating a block of contracts at once offers efficiencies to the payer while potentially leading to better reimbursement rates and improve T MS economics.

Ultimately, increasing practice profitability for our customers.

These benefits also extend to medical management and spravato services making it easier for customers to expand their practice offering.

Secondly, we will also be able to offer more robust support in navigating the complex landscape of insurance reimbursement by providing billing services to our customers which could speed up payment processing and reduce denied claims.

Finally, we are also working to provide neurostar customer access to Green Brooks existing call center.

By leveraging the centralized call center operation.

We can help manage patient calls and education more efficiently, potentially increasing conversion rates and reducing the administrative burden required to meet the demand for T MS as we move forward.

We are focused on two main goals, advancing mental health treatment and increasing shareholder value through disciplined execution of our cost controls, operational improvements and revenue growth initiatives.

We have a clear path to profitability while expanding access to critical mental health treatments.

The Green Brook combination represents a transformative step in this journey and based on what we have learned since announcing the transaction, we now believe that the combined organization will achieve cash flow break even by the third quarter of 2025.

And we're confident in our ability to deliver meaningful care for our patients and true value to our shareholders.

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Steve.

Thank you, Keith.

Unless otherwise noted, all performance comparisons are being made for the third quarter of 2024 versus the third quarter of 2023.

Total revenue was $18.5 million.

An increase of 4% over prior year revenue of $17.9 million primarily driven by increased capital sales in the quarter US.

Neurostar advanced therapy system revenue was $4.1 million and we shipped 49 systems in the quarter US.

Treatment session revenue was $13.3 million.

An increase of 2% year over year revenue per active site was approximately $11,400 in the quarter compared to approximately $11,900 in the prior year quarter.

Gross margin was 75.6% compared to 65.8% in the prior year quarter.

Up 980 basis points from the prior year.

The increase in gross margin was a result of the change in product mix.

The absence of a one time manufacturing costs related to our new contract manufacturer and an inventory impairment charge in 2023 operating expenses during the quarter were $21.7 million.

An increase of one point million dollars or 5% compared to $20.6 million.

In the third quarter of 2023 the increase was primarily due to transaction expenses which were incurred prior to the transaction closing during the quarter, we incurred approximately $1.4 million of non cash stock based compensation expense.

Net loss for the third quarter was $13.3 million or 44¢ per share as compared to a net loss of $9.4 million or 33¢ per share in the prior year quarter.

As of September 30th, 2024 cash and cash equivalents were $20.9 million.

Now turning to guidance for the fourth quarter, we expect stand alone revenue of $19 billion to $20 million.

We now expect full year stand alone revenue in the range of $71 million to $72 million.

We expect total standalone operating expenses for the full year to be in the range of $81 million to $82 million which excludes approximately $2 million of preclosed transaction expenses.

I would now like to turn the call back over to Keith.

Thank you, Steve.

Let me leave you with some key thoughts on our path forward.

Integration is at the center of everything we're focused on right now.

The combination of our organizations presents immediate opportunities from unified commercial teams to streamlined operations.

But more importantly, it creates a platform for sustainable long term growth.

Our progress in the first phase of integration planning has exceeded our initial expectations, particularly in identifying and capturing initial synergies.

Looking ahead to 2025 we have a clear line of sight to cash flow break.

Even by the third quarter.

This milestone reflects both our integration execution and our ability to drive meaningful growth through our expanded capabilities and footprint.

I'm particularly encouraged by how our teams have worked together.

Since the acquisition announcement, the collaborative spirit and shared commitment to our mission are evident in the early wins.

We're seeing across the organization, we look forward to updating you on our milestones and overall progress in the coming quarters.

As we work to transform both our business and patient care with that, I'd like to open the line for questions.

Thank you at this time.

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Our first question comes from Adam Mater from Piper Sandler.

Please go ahead.

Hi guys, this is Kyle on for Adam.

Thanks for taking the question, I guess first.

As we just look at the guidance reduction for full year 2024.

Can you just help us understand a bit what changed in terms of terms of your expectations and then how that should help us think about 2025.

Looking forward.

Hey Kyle, this is Steve.

Yes.

So we really base Q4 guidance on the, the trends that we continue to see.

In Q3, the, you know, essentially there's been a change in purchasing patterns from our customers due to the reimbursement and cash flow issues they experienced in Q1.

We have seen some recovery with Q3 being our largest collection quarter in about a year and a half.

But their cash flows were slowed and so it, it did change the way they were historically purchasing treatment sessions.

Right now, what we're seeing in our tracks, our databases is our inventory levels are at historic lows actually and approaching the pre COVID levels.

So, whereas customers used to purchase, you know, almost a quarter's worth of inventory to be able to treat their next quarter's worth of patients.

They really cut back and, you know, the they're probably holding or they are holding between one and two months inventory.

And so we have seen some stabilization and improvement.

But again, it's, it wouldn't be responsible to forecast a full recovery in Q4 which impacted our treatment session.

Forecast for Q4.

I will say that our system utilizations remain very strong and in our business.

If, if we have a strong October, it bodes well for the rest of the quarter.

And, and again, we had a very strong October from a utilization perspective.

So, no, we are disappointed the impact that the reimbursement had.

But we are seeing, you know, a stabilization and some improvement as we close out the year.

It is important to note though that as Keith mentioned in the script, we are focusing more on profitability and some of the restructuring that we did last week did impact the commercial team.

So that is forecast to have some impact on revenues in Q4.

Okay, thanks.

Yeah, that's, that's super helpful.

I guess as a second question then with regards to Green Book and you know, congrats on the progress there.

Are you still committed to midteens growth for the combined entity as we look into 25 and 26?

And if so, can you remind us of what is kind of driving that growth acceleration?

Thanks.

Yeah.

And so I realized we we did state that in the proxy and that is one of our internal goals, but it's there are a lot of moving parts with the transaction at this point.

And so again, our primary focus is not top line growth, it is profitability.

And you know, our goal is to get to cash flow break even in Q3.

And it may come at the expense of losing some top line revenue to improve profitability.

And so that's, you know, really our focus.

And I think as we work through and a reminder, we obviously haven't closed yet.

We will be providing updates as to where the top line number will be in 2025.

That's all for me.

Thanks.

Thank you one moment for our next question.

Our next question comes from William Plovanic from Conord genuity.

Please go ahead.

Hey, great, thanks, good morning.

Just can you just give us, you know, in quarters past we've talked about kind of the business and separated out between Green Brook and non Green Book.

I was wondering if you just give us a little granularity on kind of how those separate businesses are trending today and then even including the the threshold testing, which is predictive for kind of future treatments.

Yeah, I I this is Keith Phil.

I, I'm hesitant to comment on on Green Brook's progress since we haven't closed the deal yet.

But our our business with Green Brook is, is still very strong.

In one of the things in our Q4 guidance was the in our company revenue had been removed also, so that that was taken out of it.

But I think we're looking at our local consumable business and as Steve mentioned that business is, is up significantly and continues to be strong.

So, on the Green Brook side, their business on both well, on T MS is is is very strong and they'll report on their business on, on both sides, Bravado and, and P MS shortly.

Okay.

And then just Steve, could you help us understand in terms of that guidance?

I mean, it's a pretty big cut down to 1,920 street sitting at 25.

How much of that was just removal of the inter company revenue?

I to clarify that the guidance that we had it it does, it is stand alone.

So it does include projected Greenberg purchases.

And so I would say the bulk of the shortfall to the street of 25 is due to the restructuring.

And so it did impact the commercial team across the board.

And again, you know, internally we've made the decision to really focus on profitability and getting the cash flow break even.

And you know, that, that did come at the expense of some commercial team members.

And, and it will have an impact on our Q4 revenues.

Okay.

And then just, you know, last question for me, just as you talk about the commercial restructuring, just help us understand exactly strategically what you're doing differently.

I mean, is it, you know, you, you know, was it a change in capital rep?

So you sell less capital, was it a change in force?

It sounds like, you know, you, you're tightening up the territories when you talked about the 10 mile radius and the physicians, you know, just, just help us understand, you know, how we should think about this.

Was this a 20% R to the commercial or a 10% R just any, you know, anything you can help us, give us, provide us to help us understand a little better.

And thanks for taking my questions.

So Bill, the the, the change in commercial strategy is really just a shift.

One of the, one of the aspects, one of the business models that Greenbrook has is utilization of what they refer to as rams the regional area managers.

The rams responsibility is to work with local providers around their Green Brook Centers to talk to those providers about spravato and TM SS and the benefits that they can bring to patients that have failed multiple drugs.

These are providers that currently don't offer T MS or don't plan to offer T MS or Spravato.

So that model has worked very well for Green Brook.

And that team has been an excellent driver of revenue to Green Brook locations.

So we are using the data that we have to help make so that group more efficient.

The and we are also going to be doing the same training with our practice development managers so that they can also work with our B MP accounts with local providers around their locations and drive patients more efficiently into those practices.

So that's really the the major shift in in the business model.

With that would come a, a true focus on these accounts on the treatment session side of the business.

And as a result, we will be driving more capital systems as second system sales into those existing.

Accounts.

Thank you one moment for our next question.

Our next question comes from James Beers from William Blair.

Please go ahead.

Hey guys, it's Jimmy on for Margaret.

Thanks for taking the question.

I just want to clarify one thing.

You know, in terms of your guidance reduction, is this primarily coming from treatment sessions, I guess as I'm looking at it and then just maybe talk to why or maybe just give us an update on, on adolescent adoption and then also opened up B MP to, to all accounts.

So maybe just talk to why that isn't you know, offsetting or, or contributing and then are you assuming any contribution in Q4?

And then as we look at 25 I guess, do you start seeing those initiatives begin to bear fruit or, or is it, you know, our expectations pushed further along?

Yeah.

Hi Jimmy.

I would say the majority of the Q4 weakness is related to treatment sessions.

You know, we have seen a stabilization of the credit and lending environment.

So, you know, we may be a little short from historic Q4 capital levels.

But again, you know, with the change of focus on really getting our existing customers as well as Greenberg's current systems to capacity, it will take a little bit of time.

And so I would say the the shortfall is more related to the treatment session side and regarding adolescence, you know, it remains extremely strong, it's a big opportunity with Green Brook as well.

And so, you know, if we look at the adolescence treated and we look at both patients and providers, it's significantly up through the end of Q3 as to where it was in March when we received approval.

Okay.

That, that's helpful and then maybe just one on, on international and it's something we talked about last time.

But in terms of Japan, I believe there was a, you know, an over the air update opportunity and that would drive some sort of upgrade cycles.

So maybe you can just talk to what you're seeing there.

And if that's still the, the, you know, implication for Q4.

So our, our business in Japan is is growing also in in Korea.

So our focus over there is really to take advantage of the hospital systems that are now providing are, are now broadening it throughout their their entire system.

It's quite H1stly though and we've said it before.

Our, our focus is to sustain our business in on the international markets.

Our focus is in the United States.

And as Steve indicated, we have a great opportunity with with the Green Brook team, you mentioned adolescence, the focus at in the Green Brook location has has not been on the adolescent front, but we have an opportunity now through the training that we're going to provide the rams which starts tomorrow and it goes for a few days to really educate them on the benefits for adolescence and continue that growth.

Our number of centers that has is now treating a adolescent patients has grown significantly.

Okay.

That's helpful.

And just maybe one last clarifying question.

I believe you said reaching cash flow break even by the third quarter, I might be reading this wrong, but I believe the press release says the second quarter.

So if you could just clarify what the timing is there.

It's the 3rd, 3rd quarter.

Okay, great.

Thanks.

Guys.

Thank you one moment for our next question.

Our last question comes from the line of Danny Stoddard at J MP.

Please go ahead.

Yeah, great.

Thanks for the question.

Just on synergies, you know, you updated that number to 20 million.

Where is that other 5 million coming from?

Is it primarily the strategic reorg you called out?

And you know, just as you sit here today, having had more time to digest what this combined entity will look like.

Are there any other areas where there could be some additional opportunities for syn synergies or do you feel that 20 million is more the ceiling at this point?

Hey, Danny.

Yeah, the the newest increment came from the restructuring within Neuronetics.

So that really wasn't anticipated during the summer as we were working through the definitive agreement.

I I do not think the 20 million is the ceiling.

A again, a lot of these activities have been at the higher level and have not included, you know, all of the parties within specific departments.

So I think you'll see that number inch up as we work more closely with more involvement post close.

Great and then just one follow up on the cash flow break, even timing.

How should we think about cash, cash usage in four Q into the first half, 2025?

Just given that new timing and then you know, how comfortable are you with the cash position here.

And do you anticipate drawing down that second tranche of debt?

Thanks.

Yeah, I mean, we're comfortable with our cast position right now.

And also with the burn that's forecast by both companies in Q4, you know, there are significant deal expenses that will incur on close.

So a again, you know, we think we're exiting with a healthy balance and our forecasting a reduced burn in Q1 of 25.

We are in conversations with our lender perceptive advisors.

And so I think it's a little early to say if we're going to draw down or not.

Again, from a company perspective, we'd always like a little bit of cash cushion.

But again, you know, our forecast and models do predict that, you know, a decent cash balance as we work through the, you know, initial months of the transaction close.

Great.

Thank you very.

Much.

Thank you.

The question and answer session is now closed.

I will now turn it back to Keith Sullivan for close remarks.

Thank you for your interest in Neuronetics and we look forward to updating you on the next quarterly call.

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