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Good morning, and thank you for joining us for the neuro NetIQ's First Quarter 2024 conference call.

Joining me on today's call are n Neuronetics, President and Chief Executive Officer, Keith Sullivan, and Chief Financial Officer, Steve Furlong.

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With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to n Neuronetics President and Chief Executive Officer, Keith Sullivan.

Mark, thanks for the introduction.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today.

I'll begin by providing an overview of the recent performance, followed by an operational update.

Steve will then review the financial results, and I'll conclude with some thoughts on 2024.

Before turning to Q&A, building on the momentum we generated during 2023, we had a solid first quarter.

Our efforts to drive increased utilization and broader adoption of NeuroStar are paying dividends.

Total revenue was $17.4 million, an increase of 12% over the first quarter of 2023.

This continued solid performance reflects the outstanding efficacy of NeuroStar therapy, the demand we are generating and the ongoing execution by our commercial team NeuroStar system revenue was $3.3 million, reflecting steady demand for new system.

During the quarter, we shipped 41 systems, slightly below our plan of 45 to 50 systems per quarter.

Partially due to a number of customers having challenges securing credit for capital purchases as well as the negative impact experienced by some customers as a result of the changed healthcare, cybersecurity incident in late February.

As a result of this incident providers have seen an impact on both collections on patient claims submissions as well as determination of patient eligibility due to the benefits investigation portal being shut down during this time, provider's ability to collect cash has been significantly impaired and is still being negatively impacted as of today as a result of reduced cash collections due to change health care situation.

Many psychiatry practices were forced to reallocate cash.

They had planned to use to purchase NeuroStar in order to cover essential costs like rent and payroll, which impacted our ability to collect from customers to further emphasize the impact on providers.

The American Medical Association published an article at the end of April, discussing the results of the survey they conducted with health care providers.

Despite Change Healthcare's announcement of restored service, the survey found that 60% of providers are still facing challenges in verifying patient eligibility for treatment, 75% of providers still face barriers with claims submissions and 85% of providers continue to experience disruption and claims payment as the headwinds due to Change Healthcare subside, we expect that we'll return to our target of shipping 45 to 50 systems per quarter.

Ultimately, we still expect to ship roughly 200 systems in 2024, our NeuroStar summits have been a key driver of growth and adoption for our systems by educating healthcare professionals about the power of NeuroStar in the battle against depression and other mental health disorders.

Since we began hosting these events, we have conducted 12 summits across the United States.

Through these summits, we have sold a total of 200 systems generating over $14 million in capital sales with numbers steadily increasing each quarter.

New customer relationships we have formed as a result of this summits have enabled these practices to treat over 2,850 patients leading to $11.2 million in treatment session revenue.

Our next Summit scheduled for mid May in Phoenix, Arizona is already fully booked with 75 attendees.

Importantly, 20% of the attendees currently treat adolescents.

We are very pleased with the initial interest from the adolescent psychiatrists as we have only just begun to educate them on the benefits of the NeuroStar treatment for their patients.

Overall, we are encouraged by the continued demand for our technology and its potential to positively impact those battling depression.

Turning to an update on our commercial partnerships.

In March, we announced a five year exclusive partnership with transformational care network, one of the nation's largest mental health care providers.

They operate 47 locations soon to be 48 across the U.S., primarily in the Northeast and Pacific Northwest and currently have 20 NeuroStar systems across their network in this new agreement.

Neuro NetIQ's is now transformations, exclusive provider of new PMS systems.

Also as part of the agreement, transformations has converted from a fixed price to a consumable model for all of their system.

We have had a long-standing relationship with transformations, and we are very excited that the NeuroStar will become an increasingly bigger part of their plans moving forward as they seek to deliver exceptional care and provide their patients with access to the best possible mental health solution.

U.s. treatment session revenue was $13 million, which represents a 22% increase compared to the first quarter of 2023.

This growth was mainly fueled by a more than 32% year-over-year increase in local consumable revenue, the highest year over year increase outside of COVID, validating the effectiveness of our commercial initiatives.

While treatment session revenue growth remained strong, we did note some impact from the changed health care situation that I just mentioned as providers sought to conserve capital as a result of slower cash collection.

When discussing the issue with customers, we have heard anecdotally that patient demand for therapy remains strong, but many of those patients have been delayed moving into treatment as a result of slow prior authorizations from insurers.

Now let's shift our focus to operational updates, beginning with an update for the better may guaranteed provider pilot program or BMGP., better MI guarantee provider program aims to establish a nationwide group of accounts following patient care and responsiveness standards developed in collaboration with expert TMS clinicians aimed at delivering timely and consistent care to those who need it most.

As discussed during our last earnings call, we officially launched the second phase of the pilot in January.

This phase included more than 100 accounts made up of both the green Brook sites from the initial launch in late 2023, as well as additional sites that met the qualification standards prior to January 22, in early April, we will enroll another cohort of approximately 100 sites and currently have 204 sites for actively participating in the BMGP. program.

We continue to be thrilled with the significant positive trends we are seeing coming out of the sites enrolled in the pilot, particularly related to responsiveness and more timely follow-up with the potential patients.

BMGP. sites are seeing up to a 6.5 time improvement in patient follow-up within 24 hours versus our non BMGP. sites, which we know is critical to facilitating the treatment of patients suffering from mental health conditions because the BMGP. sites are more rapidly connecting with patients, they can more quickly educate patients and have them begin treatment using NeuroStar on average, better be guarantee provider sites are able to move a patient from being interested in NeuroStar to completing a motor threshold test five times faster than we saw across our customer base last year.

Historically, it took an average of 82 days to move a patient from interest to treatment.

This process is now being completed in 17 days on average for BMGP. sites.

As a result, BMJP. sites are seeing a 48% improvement in the number of motor threshold tests being completed.

These providers are improving patients' lives by providing them with faster access to potentially life-changing treatments.

While we continue to closely monitor the positive impact of the pilot program as we expand to a greater number of customers throughout the year.

The continued success of the program highlights that the tactics being employed are working in a meaningful way.

Moving forward, the pilot phase will be open to all NeuroStar customers who agreed to meet the five key standards of the program we will continue to take a measured approach to a broader rollout of the program to ensure we effectively balance demand while upholding standards.

We will launch another group of 100 sites in June, bringing the total number of participating sites to over 300.

Turning our attention to NeuroStar UNIVERSITY.

This program continues to enhance our customers' understanding of the benefits offered by our five star solution, which includes educational programs and tools, clinical best practices as well as marketing initiatives as a result of the education that customers are receiving at an issue we are seeing material increases in utilization as compared to sites who have not participated.

In fact, NSU. attendees on average are seeing a 58% increase in utilization as compared to sites who have not attended because they learn how to educate patients about NeuroStar and learn the latest clinical techniques for using our system.

Because of this, we have seen a trend of sites becoming repeat attendees, with 20% of sites that attended prior classes.

Having sent additional team members to NSU. did benefit first hand from our course, this underscores that the more we are able to educate customers on best practices and the benefits of partnering with neuro NetIQ's, the more utility they are able to drive moving forward, we will continue to leverage and S. used success to drive increased adoption and utilization.

During the first quarter, we saw continued strength with our co-op marketing program.

The co-op program remains a critical component of our commercial strategy for two key reasons.

First, by matching our customers' marketing spend, we are effectively getting double the return on dollars invested to help drive awareness and educate prospective patients.

And second, by having a customer participate, it reinforces their commitment to NeuroStar and developing a successful TMS program within their practice at the beginning of 2024, we introduced significant improvements to the program based on feedback from our customers, making it even easier for our practices to use our streamlined and turnkey marketing approach, which should ultimately lead to a greater patient awareness of NeuroStar.

As of the end of the first quarter, we have approximately 300 sites participating as the participation grows.

We are continuing to see uplift across a number of key metrics.

Those accounts who participated in co-op marketing both during Q4 of 2023 and Q1 of 2024 saw a year over year increase in both motor threshold tests and utilization during the first quarter.

Turning to a regulatory and clinical update.

As of the end of March, we received our eighth FDA five 10 K clearance in the past three years.

Our new indication for NeuroStar is as a first-line adjunct treatment for adolescent patients aged 15 to 21 who are suffering from major depressive disorder for this patient population.

Neurostar can be used in combination with other therapies without requiring failed prior courses of medication.

This is a significant milestone for the Company and more importantly, adolescent patients as the NeuroStar is the first and only TMS treatment can be cleared for this age group.

Adolescent depression is a complex mental health condition that impacts an estimated $4.3 million patients in the United States and its prevalence has been accelerating since COVID-19 pandemic.

Currently, treatment options available for adolescents are extremely limited, and this advancement has the potential to set a new treatment paradigm for how clinicians address depression within this large and growing patient population with the size and scale of the adolescent patient population, our total addressable market within MDD. has increased by approximately 35%.

This clearance was two years in the making and is a testament to our clinical team and highlights the increasing value of the data we are accumulating within tracked Star, leveraging over 1,100 real world adolescent patients who were treated using NeuroStar.

Our track STAR data analysis showed that 78% of adolescent patients achieved clinical meaningful improvement in their depression following a full course of treatment, relying on the FDA's commitment to consider and utilize real-world evidence in evaluating new indications we combined our track STAR data with clinical data from published literature to demonstrate that NeuroStar TMS was safe and effective when used in a first line add on therapy.

This clearance highlights the immense power of our proprietary tracks to our platform, in particular, for the advancement of our regulatory strategy, we will continue to leverage the growing repository of real-world data from our customers' daily use of tracked star in administering NeuroStar therapy to evaluate opportunities to make NeuroStar more widely applicable to treat additional mental health conditions.

Moving forward, we will work to educate clinicians as well as adolescent MDD sufferers and their parents on the benefits that NeuroStar can deliver beyond the adolescent patient population that may exist within our current customer practices.

There are approximately 8,000 adolescent psychiatrist and an additional 6,000 adolescent nurse practitioners in the United States who we now have the opportunity to educate prior to recent clearance.

The providers had no TMS option available to them.

The interest we have already received from the physician community has been extremely encouraging.

To date, we have received interest from dozens of providers, both current customers and prospects.

Some have expressed appreciation for expanding treatment options for this underserved adolescent population.

While others have sought to clarify specifics around the approved indication for use in this age group to further educate providers.

We held a seminar last week to review the clinical data supporting our adolescent clearance.

This allowed us to address common questions as practices look to incorporate NeuroStar TMS for their adolescent patients.

The webinar had over 140 physician attendees with roughly two thirds being current customers and one-third being prospective NeuroStar users highlighting strong interest from clinicians for this new indication.

We have a comprehensive launch strategy for expanding our indication to treat adolescents 15 and up.

That includes increasing awareness and education among practices and Penryn.

Our goal is to ensure that everyone suffering from MDD knows about NeuroStar and has an understanding about the benefits of the treatment to amplify our outreach on digital and social media platforms.

We are hosting a press event in New York City on May 15th with Editors and Writers from top consumer trade and health media outlets.

This event will feature the transformative experience and perspectives about NeuroStar from a top psychiatrist, a patient advocate, a company by their parent and a key representative from NeuroStar.

This new indication is the most newsworthy event at NeuroStar.

Since our initial clearance in 2008, we anticipate a significant increase in media coverage will help reach MDD sufferers and their families leading to a higher level of awareness and education, which will help more people in need get treatment.

We expect to see some contribution from this new indication in the second half of the year, and we believe the positive impact on our business will be even more material in 2025.

After the end of the first quarter, we announced the publication of some significant findings in brain stimulation a premier journal in the field of neuromodulation, highlighting the criticality of patients completing a full course of treatment when using NeuroStar therapy.

The analysis confirmed that if patients in treatment showed early improvement in their MDBs symptom.

It was a strong predictor of a successful clinical outcome.

Importantly, it also confirmed that a substantial number of patients who had low levels of improvement early in their treatment course, ultimately experienced a meaningful reduction in symptoms once they completed a full course of therapy.

This data reinforces one of the pillars of the BMGP. program, which is that clinicians are required to educate patients on the benefits of completing a full course of 36 treatments, which the data shows provides the best clinical outcomes with this data, and we will continue to work to educate clinicians and patients on the benefits of finishing a full course of treatment.

We are excited about what we were able to accomplish during the first quarter, we continue to deliver solid financial performance as a result of the successful execution of our educational and awareness initiatives.

Beyond that, we achieved significant milestones by being the first and only TMS manufacturer with an adolescent indication approval.

This not only validates the safety and efficacy of NeuroStar, but also allows us to help clinicians provide better care to the growing population of 15 to 21 year olds suffering from MDD.

We also made progress in expanding commercial partnerships agreements and increasing access to care with NeuroStar.

We are incredibly excited about the future at zero net.

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Steve.

Thank you, Keith.

Unless otherwise noted, all performance comparisons are being made for the first quarter of 2024 versus the first quarter of 2023.

Total revenue was $17.4 million, an increase of 12% over prior year revenue of $15.5 million, primarily driven by increased treatment sessions sales in the quarter, U.S. NeuroStar Advanced Therapy system revenue was $3.3 million, and we shipped 41 systems in the quarter, U.S. treatment session revenue was a record for the Company at $13 million, an increase of 22% year over year.

The revenue growth was primarily driven by continued strong performance within our local consumable customer segments.

Revenue per active site was approximately $11,300 in the quarter compared to approximately $9,700 in the prior year quarter.

This double-digit increase in revenue per active site is due to the ongoing success of our commercial education and awareness initiatives, as well as the fact that we are continuing to see an increasing percentage of system shipped per quarter going into existing customer sites where there are now operating multiple NeuroStar gross margin was 75.1% compared to 73.3% in the prior year quarter, up 180 basis points from the prior year, driven by a higher mix of treatment session revenue.

We plan to continue this consistent improvement in gross margin as we work towards our longer-term target of being above 80%.

Operating expenses during the quarter were $20 million a decrease of $1.4 million or 7% compared to $21.3 million in the first quarter of 2023.

This year over year and sequential reduction in operating expenses comes directly as a result of our ongoing prudent cost management efforts.

During the quarter, we incurred approximately $1.3 million of noncash stock-based compensation expense.

Net loss for the first quarter was $7.9 million, or $0.27 per share as compared to a net loss of $10.5 million or $0.38 per share in the prior year quarter.

Ebitda was negative $6.3 million as compared to negative $9.4 million in the prior year quarter.

This significant reduction in EBITDA loss reflects our continued success in creating operational leverage through strong top line growth and prudent expense management.

As of March 31, 2024, cash and cash equivalents were $47.7 million.

Cash collections in the quarter would have been higher absent the cybersecurity issues experienced by changed health care, which in addition to delaying some customer purchases also delayed some customer payments.

As a reminder, Q1 is typically our highest cash burn quarter of the year, and we continue to remain confident in our path to profitability.

And we continue to expect to be cash flow positive in the fourth quarter of 2024.

Now turning to guidance for the second quarter, we expect revenues of $18 million to $19 million in the quarter, we anticipate that we will continue to see revenues modestly impacted by the change healthcare issue.

When this issue was resolved, we expect that revenues and cash collections will rebound.

As a result, we continue to expect full year revenue in the range of $78 million, to $80 million.

We expect total operating expenses for the full year range to be in the range of $80 million to $84 million.

I would now like to turn the call back over to Keith.

Thank you, Steve.

In conclusion, the momentum we built in the first quarter positions us very well for the remainder of 2024.

Our commercial initiatives are clearly working, driving increased adoption and utilization of NeuroStar therapy across our installed base.

We expect these programs and the better may guarantee provider program in particular, to continue yielding strong results as we systematically roll them out more broadly.

Looking ahead, we have several key growth catalysts.

Most notably, our recent adolescent indication approval represents a significant market expansion opportunity that we are just beginning to unlock with our focused education and awareness efforts ramping up, we anticipate interest and demand from the adolescent psychiatric community to ramp up over the course of the year with even more material impact in 2025.

Additionally, our robust clinical data pipeline and collaborative partnership should further increase neuro NeuroStar applicability across mental health condition.

Our financial outlook remains strong, and we are on a clear trajectory towards profitability and cash flow positivity.

With our comprehensive commercialization strategy and expanding treatment indications, neuro NetIQ's is uniquely positioned to drive long-term sustainable growth.

Before we open up the line for questions, I'd like to thank everyone throughout the neuro NetIQ's organization for their dedication and tireless work towards our mission of helping those suffering from mental health disorders.

I'd also like to take a moment to thank three members of our Board of Directors, Joe Capper, John Bakewell and will be eager for their dedication and contribution to Neurodex and me personally, as they will not be standing for reelection.

We wish him the best as they move on to their next ventures.

With that, I'd like to open the line for questions.

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Our first question comes from Bill Plovanic of Canaccord.

Please go ahead, though.

Break-even.

It's John on for Bill this morning.

Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the quarter.

I just wanted to first touch on guidance.

Why keep guidance why you're still expecting the full 200 system sales, you saw the strength in treatment revenues in Q1 despite all the headwinds that you highlighted on the call.

And also you still have a tailwind now from the adolescents and adults contribution in the second half?

I highlighted.

I just want to understand it that methodology keeping guidance flat there.

Yes, I mean, John, thanks for that question.

It really comes down to the uncertainty due to the cyber breach.

As we indicated, it did impact system sales in the quarter, although although we do think it will rebound in Q2, and Q3, it just felt like we'd be getting ahead of ourselves if we increased guidance at this point and the impact on adolescence this year is still unknown.

It's still very early.

And as a reminder, many of the private payers were already reimbursing for adolescent TMS down to either 17 or 18 years of age.

So it is a nice tailwind, but we think the most significant impact of that is going to be in '25 and '26.

Okay, thanks.

And then just as for the Q2 guidance, a little bit below the Street.

I'm assuming most of it probably isn't going to be a capital sale that being pushed out, but not for the motor threshold tests chart.

It looks really strong towards the end of this quarter.

So maybe just some puts and takes for what you expect for Q2 revenue?

Thanks Again.

Yes, again, the capital equipment market is impacting all of med devices.

And it's not that lenders are denying credit, but they're doing a lot more diligence.

And so it's taking longer to get our transactions funded.

That's one of the reasons why we continue to schedule our summits earlier in the quarter.

Our first Summit was scheduled four weeks before quarter-end, and now we're scheduling them between seven and eight weeks before quarter end and so we do forecast a rebound from Q1 for the NeuroStar sales.

But again, you know, 60% of our customers or even slightly higher are really in US single office doctors and they are impacted by cash flow.

And so not only other claims being held up by prior authorizations for new patients are also being held up.

And so know again, we do think it's going to recover.

But some of the statistics that Keith mentioned previously, there's still some wood to chop before they fully recover.

And then regarding empties, you're right it's that's a significant metric for us to watch, and it was up nicely in the quarter and quite frankly, was very strong in April as well.

So again, I think it's just more of a timing thing, which is why we're comfortable maintaining the full year guidance at this point.

Got it.

Thank you again.

Thanks, John.

One moment for our next question our next question comes from Adam Maeder of Piper and Sandler.

Please go ahead.

Hi, Keith and Steve.

Thanks for taking the questions here.

Solid start to the year and very nice U.S. treatment sessions number.

I wanted to follow up on John's questions and I guess just kind of wanted to see if we could get a little bit more granular with the temporal headwinds that arose in Q. one from from change the cybersecurity issue, customers securing credit.

Maybe just talk about kind of the impact in Q1 that you saw both from a system revenue and treatment session revenues standpoint?

And then are you able to give us, you know, any numbers around kind of anticipated headwind in Q2?

I think I heard modest impact and then what's kind of baked into the full year guide for those?

Yes, transient headlines.

Thanks, Adam.

Yes, we do.

We do estimate that the Q1 impact was about 500,000 and that was primarily capital equipment sales.

And again, with the reaffirmation of doing approximately 200 systems in the year, we do think there's going to be a recovery in Q2 through Q4, not a big impact in treatment sessions?

Yes, I would say the most significant impact that we felt was on collections.

And so we had $20 million in US revenue in Q4 of '23, you would like to think you'd be able to collect the lion's share of that in your first quarter than we did.

And so we estimate that we were probably short paid about $3 million.

And again, we do forecast that to recover as the security issue was fixed.

And but it did have an impact on our balance sheet.

Okay, that's got Keith.

I'll just add one piece to it is on the capital equipment side.

As Steve said earlier, the it's really getting the financing through and it used to be that we could get financing done in 10 business days and now we're looking at several weeks.

So we do have a summit coming up in Arizona.

We have 75 providers coming to that Summit.

And so it's the interest is certainly there.

It's just of now with seven weeks before the end of the quarter, are we able to get those systems through the financing process.

That's good color, guys.

Thanks for all that and follow up on the Q2 guide and sorry for the near term focused question and the sequential quarter-over-quarter step step-up is smaller than in past years.

It certainly sounds like you guys anticipate again some kind of carryover impact from the temporal headwinds.

But I guess I'm still kind of trying to square the $18 million to $19 million guidance rate range for Q2?

And just any color that you can give us thus far on the trends in the business in Q2 and kind of how that may or may not be informing the Q2 outlook?

And then I had one follow up things.

Thanks.

Yes, again, the weekly metrics that we review with the team continued to be strong.

But again, as I said to John, the majority of our patients are single site offices, and they are very dependent upon reimbursement and if they can't get if they can't get cash and it's difficult for them to spend money.

And so again, we believe we took a responsible approach to setting guidance where it was, but it's by no means an indication that we're sensing weakness out there.

It's this issue is out of our control.

And until it's fix, regretfully, it will have some impact near term on our business.

Again, I think our reaffirmation of full year at this point, I mean, we're still only to early May.

It tells you that it's going to be a good year.

And it's Adam, Keith again, you also said that our motor thresholds look strong and they continue to be strong.

We just in speaking with several of our accounts and some of the big ones of their prior authorizations are taking longer to come through as a result of Change Healthcare.

So worse, we're seeing the activity out there, but we have to be sensitive to the situation with Change Healthcare.

Sure.

That makes sense.

And if I can squeeze in one more just on the adolescence approval.

Congratulations.

I think I heard, Keith, you mentioned that this is the most newsworthy events since original FDA clearance.

Or maybe just talk about the strategy on the kind of, I guess, pursue this new patient population from pursuing new clinician base, which practices will you target?

How do you grow the customer base, but but not of the same, but at the same time, not lose focus on the existing customers, which have seen some some pretty good utilization trends.

So just talk about kind of the strategy and approach there.

Thanks for taking the questions.

Thanks, Adam.

We submitted for this five 10 K approval back in June of last year.

And we the soonest that we expected that approval was September 28th.

We have been geared up for it since that time and have a PR firm lined up, have a marketing plan all put together and have been adjusting it for the last nine months.

So we are ready to go to talk to adolescent psychiatrist with the adolescent nurse practitioners.

And we have a marketing campaign directed at the parents of the adolescents.

So all of that will be kicked off on May 15 in New York City with that with our press event.

So we're we think that there is significant interest.

And as we said in the script, we have already seen it.

And at our Summit, we have about 15 physicians that prior to the clearance, I had no knowledge of TMS in their practice and no thought that they would be able to use it to help the adolescents that they're treating.

So I think this is a good opportunity for us.

Thank you.

One moment for our next question.

Our next question comes from Margaret Kaczor at William Blair.

Your line is now open.

And good morning, everyone.

Thanks for taking my question.

Add benefits and want to focus on treatment sales news driven growth.

I mean, we're seeing an acceleration on a slightly tougher comp on a year-over-year basis relative to what we saw in Q4.

You've got two quarters now of 20% á¹£plus, but I understand part of that is comps and so on.

But it still seems pretty powerful.

And then to the extent that you're talking about average local treatment growth over 30%.

I mean those are numbers that appears back.

I'm not sure anyone would have expected.

So I don't know if that's a better me guarantee if that's an issue at all of it all combined, obviously.

But I guess I'm just trying to dive into that a little bit more.

It seems like if the average is over 30%, the folks in better MI or it is you should be much higher than that at So one, is that the right assumption to be had?

And then two, what does that mean for sustainable growth because that doesn't have a lot.

It doesn't it assumes a couple of hundred folks right now and better meager two.

So just trying to as we look towards 2025 understand what these trends could mean?

Thanks, Margaret, this is Keith.

To better meet guarantee program is working exactly as we had hoped.

It's I actually think it's better than we had thought with 204 sites in the program now we are actually accelerating the the access to the program.

So we are going to add 50 new sites on May 15 and 50 more on June 3, we are seeing that is a a site.

He's not in the program on average.

They do about three patients a quarter.

If a site has committed to be in the program and is working towards getting at meeting all five of our standards.

They treat about 6.2 patients a quarter that if they're in the program and they've met all the standards and they're keeping up with all of them.

And we have to monitor them on a monthly basis.

They are treating 10.7 patients a quarter.

So we are doing everything we can right now to accelerate access into the program for the accounts that are are trying to meet the standards.

So I think now that we have a program that does incorporate NeuroStar UNIVERSITY, which I would say probably has the greatest impact on the success of BMGP.

I think we are demonstrating to these accounts that if they follow these steps, they will be successful in treating more patients and educating them and then getting them into treatment.

So I think it is sustainable growth.

Okay.

And yes, maybe I'll keep going unless it seems like a key topic, but we are now that you've had the tenure of folks going that as you know, first tranches, BMG.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I think at least six months at this point.

So are you seeing some of the trends and statistics that you had referenced get even better the longer that they are a part of it and ultimately, where can you go because, yes, 200 to 250, 300 by midyear is a part of the at least the BMG. program or BMGP. sorry.

And of the 1,100 to 1,200 accounts that are out there still seems like a sizable multiyear opportunity.

Could you get most of them in there?

Our goal is by June 3, we'll have a little over 300 into the program.

And I think that as we continue to get momentum, we will have somewhere 300 -- 350 to 450 in the program by the end of the year.

And does the kind of tranches or 10 years of folks with in these programs and then a fewer to do their statistics continued better or do they top out at some point?

They get better and better.

Honestly, there are motor thresholds on the people in the program continue to go up there.

We monitor whether they follow up with patient leads and follow up with PPHT. tens and continue to be responsive to patients on the phone.

And all of them are doing exactly what we need them to do.

And their business continues to grow and now with adolescence, I think is another opportunity for all of these accounts to be able to communicate with the parents of the adolescent.

It's just going to show as congrats.

Thanks.

Yes, one moment for our next question.

Our final question comes from the line of Danny Stauder of citizen, J and P. Your line is now open.

Yes, great.

Thanks.

And just wanted to ask quickly on average revenue per active site and nice to see another quarter of double-digit growth and it stepped down a bit sequentially.

So I was just curious if this was more of a factor of normal seasonality?

And then how should we think about this metric for the rest of the year, especially given the longer capital sales cycle we saw first quarter and what's maybe implied in second quarter?

Thanks.

Hey, Danny, it's Steve.

Yes, there was some seasonality, seasonality that impacted that.

And then also there's always a bit of variability in our overall site count.

And so we are forecasting that metric to continue to improve.

Yes, again, with the increase in treatment session revenue and utilization, again, I think and double digit growth throughout the rest of the year, and that metric is not out of the realm of possibility.

Great.

And then just one follow-up.

Touching back on the clearance in adolescent really good to see.

And you gave some great details on how you're approaching patient education, education and outreach here.

But just wanted to clarify, how should we be thinking about the impact to overall marketing spend this already in your plan budget, you're shifting more dollars to this area or will the increase or will it increase the total?

Just any more color you could give would be great.

Thank you.

Thanks, Danny.

This is Keith of our marketing spend has been consistent for the last three years with the better may guarantee program, we are able to make those same dollars that we've been spending more efficient.

So we're able to market directly around the better meet guarantee providers and be able to monitor the patients as they go through the system into their practices and then whether they get treated or not.

So our spend will be will be consistent with last year and there is no plan to increase that budget.

Great.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

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