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  • Operator

  • The New York Times Company Second-Quarter Earnings Conference Call (edited) July 18, 2006

  • Good day and welcome to The New York Times quarter-two 2006 earnings conference call.

  • Today's call is being recorded.

  • A question-and-answer session will follow today's presentation.

  • For opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Catherine Mathis.

  • Catherine Mathis - VP Corporate Communications

  • Thank you and good morning, everyone.

  • Welcome to our earnings conference call.

  • We have several members of our senior management team here today to discuss our results with you.

  • They include: • Janet Robinson, our President and CEO; • Len Forman, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; • Scott Heekin-Canedy, President and General Manager of The New York Times; • Martin Nisenholtz, Senior Vice President of Digital Operations; • Jim Lessersohn, Vice President of Finance and Corporate Development; • Stu Stoller, Vice President of Process Engineering and Corporate Controller; and • Tony Benten, our Vice President and Treasurer.

  • Our discussion today will include forward-looking statements, and our actual results may differ from those predicted.

  • Some of the factors that may cause them to differ are included in our 2005 10-K.

  • Our presentation today will include non-GAAP financial measures, and we have provided reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures in our earnings press release, which is available on our website, nytco.com.

  • This conference call is being webcast, and an archive will also be available on our website, as will a transcript and a version that is downloadable to an MP3 player.

  • An audio replay will also be available; and the directions are in our earnings press release for that.

  • Given the number of announcements that we have had today, we are going to limit our remarks to one hour.

  • So we are going to try to end this call at 12 noon sharp.

  • And with that, I am going to turn the conference call over to Janet Robinson.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • Thank you, Catherine, and good morning, everyone.

  • Before I review the quarter, I would like to discuss an announcement that we made today.

  • As we have said in the past, we have been reviewing all of our businesses to find ways to reduce costs and operate more efficiently.

  • We have had considerable success.

  • Over the past two years, we have eliminated approximately $100 million in annual cost through improved productivity and other measures.

  • Today, we announced two moves that we believe will result in considerable additional savings and generate an estimated after-tax return on investments of at least 15% with a payback period of 5.5 years.

  • The first is that we are planning to consolidate printing in metropolitan New York at our newest facility in College Point, Queens, and sublease our older Edison printing plant.

  • We will also be adding a new press at the College Point facility.

  • Once the consolidation is complete and the new press is operational, we will be able to print at College Point the same number of copies we are currently printing at the two plants and still have room for growth.

  • We are able to do so because of the increased speed of the new press and the production efficiencies we have been able to achieve in recent years.

  • At the same time that we consolidate the two plants, we plan to reduce the web width of The Times in all editions across the country from 54 inches to the evolving industry standard of 48 inches.

  • This is similar in size to USA Today and, beginning next year, the Wall Street Journal.

  • Just under half of the Times' circulation comes from the New York area.

  • In the rest of the country, with the exception of Boston and Lakeland, Florida, we do not own the presses that print The Times.

  • We believe it is a better use of our capital to rent time on other press than to construct printing facilities.

  • In the past year, we have added two more contract print sites for the national edition, expanding availability outside New York.

  • Both the plant consolidation and the web width reduction are expected to be completed in the second quarter of 2008.

  • We plan to record onetime charges for severance and buyouts and other consolidation expenses associated with these projects.

  • The amount and timing of such charges have not yet been determined.

  • On an annualized basis, the savings are expected to total more than $42 million, which Len will detail in just a moment.

  • In addition, we will avoid the need for approximately $50 million in capital investment that would have been needed at the New Jersey facility over the next 10 years.

  • Since we began making significant cost reductions, we are often asked if there is still savings to be had.

  • The answer is yes, and it remains so even after this announcement.

  • Our folks are continually looking for and finding creative ways to streamline our operations and to improve the performance of our businesses while still delivering the superior content that is at the core of our brand.

  • Now let me turn to our performance in the second quarter.

  • Today we reported second-quarter earnings per share of $0.42 based on GAAP, which is equal to our EPS in the same period a year ago.

  • In the quarter, we had a charge of $0.04 per share related to staff reductions, the same as we had in the second quarter of last year.

  • Our GAAP earnings came in right in the middle of the range we provided in June.

  • As we indicated in our guidance release, our tax rate was lower in the quarter, which amounted to a benefit of about $0.02 per share.

  • Advertising revenues at the News Media Group varied significantly from property to property.

  • Overall advertising revenues rose 1.4% at The New York Times Media Group.

  • Strong categories included residential real estate, where advertising climbed sharply as a result of greater inventories of homes to sell; telecommunications, which has strength across key accounts; and transportation, which benefited from new and increased advertising from airlines and cruise companies.

  • Advertising was soft in entertainment, which saw poor holdover in the box office and lackluster support for summer blockbusters.

  • Automotive, which was soft at our other properties as well, in part due to the lack of employee discount pricing promotions that we had last year.

  • And technology products, which had difficult comparisons to last year's major campaign.

  • Revenues benefited from new products we have introduced this year, such as the second issue of Play, The New York Times' sports magazine, which came out in June.

  • Additional issues of publications are scheduled for the balance of the year.

  • In addition, we plan to introduce a new real estate magazine in September and expect to have multiple issues of it next year.

  • At the International Herald Tribune, advertising revenues grew 23% in the quarter as advertising rose in a broad array of categories.

  • The New England Media Group had a challenging quarter as it continues to grapple with a difficult economic climate and consolidation among major advertisers.

  • Advertising decreased 10% in the quarter, as key categories such as department stores, automotive, travel, telecommunications, and entertainment declined.

  • The group continues to be affected by the consolidation of two of its largest retail customers, Macy's and Filene's, as well as advertisers and telecommunications and airlines.

  • Looking ahead, several significant retailers have announced plans to enter or expand in the Boston marketplace in 2007, including Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus.

  • As you can see in the earnings press release, one area that has performed well in New England is other revenue, up 16%.

  • This was driven mainly by commercial printing.

  • The Worcester Telegram & Gazette prints Metro Boston and the New York Daily News.

  • In June, the Globe also began printing the New York Post.

  • Our Regional Media Group's advertising revenues rose about 5% in the quarter.

  • Like the Times Media Group, real estate advertising was particularly strong.

  • New products such as weekly newspapers, magazines, direct marketing, and local Internet products contributed significantly to the improvement.

  • Other revenues increased strongly, up about 12%, driven by outside printing revenues and distribution.

  • The Company's total circulation revenues were up slightly in the quarter.

  • Circulation revenues improved by nearly 3% at the Times Media Group as a result of home-delivery price increases we initiated in February and improved sales of the daily paper.

  • At the New England Media Group circulation revenues decreased 7%.

  • Circulation revenues increased slightly at the Regional Media Group due to subscription rate increases.

  • The Web sites in our News Media Group had very strong growth in advertising revenues, up 25% in the quarter, a particularly good showing given the large revenue base for this increase compared to others in the industry.

  • TimesSelect, our premium subscription offering on NYTimes.com continues to grow and now has approximately 513,000 subscribers, 63% of whom are also print subscribers; 37% are online-only subscribers.

  • During the quarter, we relaunched NYTimes.com and have received very strong responses from readers and advertisers.

  • It is much more dynamic and easier to navigate.

  • We have significantly increased the number of videos on the site.

  • At the same time, we provided advertisers with more choices including larger units and sponsorship opportunities around video and audio.

  • This month, we are introducing in beta MyTimes, a new feature that enables readers to create customized pages with RSS feeds from NYTimes.com as well as other sites on the Web.

  • About.com had another outstanding quarter and continues to exceed our expectations.

  • As we said in June, we expect About.com to add to earnings this year, earlier than we had initially anticipated.

  • In June, it reached 40 million unique visitors worldwide, up 22% from last year.

  • The improvement in visitors has translated into revenue.

  • In the quarter, About.com's total revenues climbed 63%, against a very strong quarter a year ago.

  • All three of its revenue streams – display advertising, cost-per-click advertising, and e-commerce – showed strong growth because of higher rates and increased spending from blue-chip advertisers.

  • In the first half of 2006, we have added 42 new guides and more are planned for the balance of the year.

  • About.com continues to drive traffic to NYTimes.com, Boston.com, and our other Web sites.

  • It also continues to cross-market our sites, further promoting our brands and extending our reach into readers' homes and offices.

  • With About.com, NYTimes.com, and Boston.com, we are now offering over 1 billion monthly page views to the marketplace.

  • In total, our digital businesses generated revenues of $66 million in the second quarter, accounting for almost 8% of the Company's total revenues, compared with about 6% in the same quarter last year.

  • This includes About.com, NYTimes.com, Boston.com, the Web sites of our Regional and Broadcast Media Groups, and our digital archives.

  • Revenues at our Broadcast Media Group rose 5% in the second quarter mainly because of the additional revenues from KAUT-TV, which we acquired last November, and increased political advertising.

  • Excluding KAUT-TV, revenues were up 2%, as political campaigns got underway.

  • Pacings in July are currently up in the mid-single digits.

  • In July, print advertising continues to be challenging, especially in categories such as studio entertainment, automotive, and corporate where we are experiencing declines.

  • Our Broadcast Media Group expects to see continued improvement in the quarter, especially as we move closer to mid-term elections.

  • Our digital properties continue to record solid gains, particularly About.com.

  • Across the organization, we remain focused on improving our margins by continuing to enhance our existing businesses.

  • We will continue to develop our leadership positions in key content areas and to stay ahead of the curve through our research and development unit.

  • As demonstrated by today's plant consolidation and web width reduction announcement, we remain dedicated to finding ways to reduce costs and to improve efficiencies.

  • There is another announcement that we made today that I would like to mention.

  • Len Forman, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, plans to retire next year.

  • We have hired an executive search firm and will look at both internal and external candidates.

  • Len has been an outstanding CFO.

  • His strategic insight and financial discipline have been critical elements in positioning the Company for the future.

  • Over the past several years, he has championed several productivity improvements and efficiencies that have been enormously beneficial to the Company.

  • In his more than two decades of service, he has provided strong leadership, helping to develop the next generation of financial executives.

  • We are deeply grateful for all that he has contributed to the Times Company.

  • With that, let me turn the call over to Len.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • Thanks, Janet.

  • I appreciate your kind words.

  • I do plan to continue working with Janet and our team until a new CFO is appointed, and then to stay on for a short period of time with the new CFO to ensure a smooth transition.

  • I have gotten to know many of you listening in today, and I have enjoyed our discussions and our occasional debates about our industry, our Company, and our future, which we remain confident about.

  • Let me now turn to the quarter.

  • Total costs rose 2.9% in the quarter, driven primarily by increased raw material expense, higher benefit cost, increased distribution and outside printing expense, and higher promotion expense in support of our circulation initiatives.

  • We expect that the rate of growth for costs, excluding those for staff reductions and the extra week in the fiscal calendar, to continue to trend lower for the balance of the year.

  • Newsprint expense rose 7.4%, largely as a result of higher prices, which were partially offset by lower consumption.

  • As Janet mentioned, the web width reduction at The New York Times will help us continue our drive to decrease newsprint consumption.

  • When the conversion is completed, we expect to save around $12 million a year.

  • This is in addition to the steps we have taken over the course of the past year, which include moving to a lighter-weight sheet and eliminating the TV book at The Times, and the daily stock tables at both the Globe and The Times.

  • With the consolidation of the new printing plant, we expect to save approximately $30 million in operating expenses from a combination of reduction in payroll, plant overhead and maintenance, and real estate.

  • We plan to reduce our workforce by approximately 250 FTEs when the consolidation is complete in 2008.

  • These reductions are on top of the 700 positions we have eliminated over the course of the past year.

  • To put it in perspective, at the beginning of 2001 we had approximately 13,800 employees; and by the end of 2006 we expect to be around 11,400, or down 17% excluding acquisitions and divestitures.

  • Capital expenditures for the consolidation and web width reduction are expected to total approximately $150 million.

  • Of that amount, approximately $20 million is expected this year, and it's included in our current guidance.

  • The balance will occur in 2007 and the first half of 2008.

  • And as Janet said, we will avoid the need for an estimated $50 million in capital at our Edison plant over the next 10 years.

  • Looking at capex in the quarter under GAAP, the total amount of capital expenditures for our new headquarters for both the Company and our development partner must be included on a consolidated basis in our financial statement.

  • In the quarter, total capital expenditures were $79.7 million.

  • Of this amount, our development partner's responsibility was $24 million.

  • The balance of $55.7 million was the Company's responsibility, including $39.7 million for our portion of the cost of our new headquarters.

  • We expect to move in the second quarter of next year; and our capital spending on the new building will come to and end.

  • With the reductions in our staff that have taken place in the past year, we will be able to lease at least four of our floors to generate rental income.

  • As you may know, the midtown Manhattan real estate market has improved significantly.

  • We believe that the value of our new building in today's real estate market is worth considerably more than our cost, and we're looking at ways we might realize these gains once the building is completed.

  • We will evaluate the long and the short-term benefits to our shareholders of recapitalization alternatives, considering the economic and market conditions at that time.

  • With that, we would be happy to take your questions.

  • Operator

  • (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Alexia Quadrani with Bear Stearns.

  • Alexia Quadrani - Analyst

  • A couple of questions.

  • First, you have had a lot of great growth coming from your new products.

  • Could you just give us an idea how the profitability compares versus your core newspaper product?

  • Then I have a couple others to follow up with.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • I will address some of the products at the Regionals and The Boston Globe and Worcester; and I will have Scott address The Times.

  • We have entered into the launch of many weeklies and certainly magazines in every one of our regional markets and pay strict attention to launching these, with the thought that we have instant profitability.

  • We have been extremely successful in making sure that that is indeed the case.

  • Many of our magazine products, just to note, are database focused, so they are not included in the newspaper.

  • They are sent very efficiently to people who are requesting them or are our specific target.

  • In regard to the weeklies, we have particularly focused on making sure that those weeklies are launched in areas that show a great deal of growth, not only in population but also in advertiser availability and expansion.

  • At the Globe, with Sidekick and the with the relaunch of their magazine, The Boston Globe Magazine, about two and a half years ago, we have seen again strong profitability in those new products.

  • As we have redesigned products as well in Boston, we have seen very good profit margins and profit increases in regard to those as well.

  • Alexia Quadrani - Analyst

  • When you talk about your profitability improvement, maybe you had also a bit implied in the conference call, should we actually see operating income margins improve in the second half of the year?

  • Or is that more of a 2007 event, when you see a lot more of these cost savings realized?

  • Catherine Mathis - VP Corporate Communications

  • One of the things that we would note too, Alexia, is that the magazines that we have in our Regional Media Group use the same newsrooms as the newspapers that we publish.

  • So from that vantage point, the profitability is very good.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • Just to be specific, at the Regional Group, when you exclude startup costs – and even with startup costs – these products are profitable right out of the gate.

  • Margins are comparable or better for these products.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • And we are monitoring those, to your point, Alexia, on a monthly and a weekly basis to really look at margin improvement.

  • The point that Catherine made in regard to these products really being used by the same newsrooms at the Regionals and certainly again at the Globe is an important one.

  • It is really goes to the integration that has taken place within our Company, certainly in print but online as well, really fully utilizing the content resources across a broad array of products to really drive profitability throughout the Company.

  • Alexia Quadrani - Analyst

  • I would guess, going sort of bigger picture, companywide, looking beyond the new product, is it realistic to assume actually margin improvement?

  • Given I know you have had great efforts in cutting costs; but the revenue environment remains very challenged.

  • Do you still think we will see margin improvement?

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • Yes, I do.

  • As I noted in my remarks, we are constantly looking at creative ways in which to look at productivity and profitability increases.

  • We're doing that certainly by better cost control and strict discipline.

  • But we are also doing that by expansive use of the resources that we do have and certainly driving revenue initiatives throughout the Company.

  • Alexia Quadrani - Analyst

  • Just lastly on the classified sector, the help-wanted decline, is that predominantly in the New England area?

  • Or do you have negative help-wanted growth across all your major properties?

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • We have declines at all of our major properties.

  • We are seeing softness in that category in print.

  • However, we are seeing very strong growth in regard to the online recruitment activity.

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • I'd add a little bit of color to the New York Times' recruitment story, and this is inconsistent with our past statements, but we are continuing to see agate declines; we are seeing growth in print display; and we are seeing quite robust growth at our Web site.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • Just a correction in regard to the Regional newspapers.

  • They are seeing an increase in recruitment of 1%, not a decline.

  • Alexia Quadrani - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Steven Barlow, Prudential.

  • Steven Barlow - Analyst

  • Janet, based on your remarks on July, you had a 3.9% increase in ad revenue last July.

  • Would we see negative ad revenue in July?

  • Secondly, you talked about reviewing all of your assets.

  • Have you thought about, with the good sale prices we saw in the Knight Ridder papers, of selling the New England Group?

  • Thank you.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • In regard to the July, as I said in my remarks we are seeing some softness in July in some of the major categories.

  • Entertainment and automotive being two at our major properties.

  • It is a little early, still, in the month to tell, because we are still seeing opportunities in the last two weeks.

  • We are still seeing extremely strong growth in regard to our digital properties.

  • So to predict that we're going to be in – we are showing a decline in July is still a little early, Steve.

  • As I have said often, we constantly review our portfolio in regard to what we have now and, importantly, what we would invest in going forward.

  • New England continues to be a very strong element in our portfolio.

  • We have a 70% penetration in the New England market.

  • It is considered by many in the area as a must-buy.

  • We have been working very hard in regard to new people that have taken on leadership positions in Boston, as well as new products, to really refocus our efforts not only in regard to expense control, but also in regard to revenue generation.

  • We continue, as I noted, to make sure that profitability and productivity be part of what our game plan is, not only at our other properties but certainly in New England as well.

  • Steven Barlow - Analyst

  • Lastly, in June of '05 you announced Marketplace Weekly.

  • Has that disappeared?

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • Yes, we have withdrawn Marketplace Weekly from the market.

  • We came to the conclusion that it was the right concept, but not the right execution.

  • So you may have also noticed about three weeks ago we made the announcement of a partnership with Metro New York to supply classified ads that will run beginning – we have not got an exact date yet, but probably beginning about the end of August.

  • You will see recruitment ads on Monday, and real estate and automotive ads on Friday.

  • This in a sense borrows a page from The Boston Globe's playbook, which introduced such a product several years ago.

  • Steven Barlow - Analyst

  • Thank you, both.

  • Operator

  • Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank.

  • Paul Ginocchio - Analyst

  • I had two questions.

  • One for Scott – what was the circulation in '92 when you opened the Edison plant in the New York City Metro area versus today?

  • Then second, for Len – did you think about outsourcing all the printing in New York City?

  • If so, what kept you from doing that?

  • Thank you.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • I will take that last question.

  • We have been looking at outsourcing throughout the organization.

  • It's very difficult to outsource all of our printing in New York.

  • Plus the utilization of the printing facility doesn't leave a lot of margin for somebody coming in to take it on.

  • But just as a reminder, 50% of our circulation is already outside of the New York market, 50% of our circulation is already produced on an outsourced basis.

  • As those trends continue, increasingly more of our circulation will be essentially printed on a contract basis.

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • I just happen to have my history with me.

  • Back in 1992, our total circulation on Sunday was about 1.7 million and on daily it was about 1.1 million.

  • Paul Ginocchio - Analyst

  • That was all New York?

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • No, I'm sorry, that was total.

  • New York was approximately 700,000 daily and approximately 1 million on Sunday.

  • Paul Ginocchio - Analyst

  • Great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • William Bird with Smith Barney.

  • William Bird - Analyst

  • Yes, I think you mentioned plans to sublease the Edison facility.

  • Just wondering if you have a contract in place, and how much of this is captured in your cost savings estimate.

  • Thank you.

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • We don't have a contract in place.

  • But we have started those discussions, and based on our preliminary discussions we feel the real estate market is quite favorable.

  • Those costs have been included in our calculations.

  • William Bird - Analyst

  • Also, I was wondering if you could give any specific numbers on print versus online recruitment ad growth.

  • Thank you.

  • Martin Nisenholtz - SVP Digital Operations

  • At The Times, help-wanted growth for the quarter was 38.5%; year to date it is 42.9%.

  • In Boston, help wanted grew more slowly because of the agate upsell issues.

  • It grew 5.1% for the quarter and 7.4% year-to-date.

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • And overall, print help wanted at The Times declined double digits, close to 20%.

  • That is Q2.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • And at the Globe, print help wanted declined about 12% June year to date, and at the Regionals it grew about 3%.

  • Operator

  • Lauren Fine with Merrill Lynch.

  • Lauren Fine - Analyst

  • I'm wondering if you could tell us, are you assuming that you're going to have to have any change in ad rate with the web width reduction?

  • Or have advertisers really just become accustomed to this?

  • Then also, you changed your interest expense assumption.

  • I am wondering if you could tell us what led to that change.

  • Then also there had been a time where you had been expecting margin increases for the year.

  • Are you backing away from that now?

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • Based on the past history of web width reduction from roughly 54 inches to 50 inches, both from our view of our sister newspapers within The New York Times Company and our understanding of how that transpired in the industry, we do not expect this web width reduction to have an impact on our revenue.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • On interest rates, we basically lowered interest expense, for a few reasons.

  • One, related to the Discovery put, slower cap spending on another, and some of the additional interest income that we received from our construction partner in return for the loans that we guaranteed.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • To your third question, we are not backing off on margin improvements, as evidenced by what we are doing not only in regard to new product development, our digital push, and certainly the many things that we have done in regard to solid expense reduction.

  • We think that we will continue on the course of margin improvement.

  • I would just add to Scott's note in regard to our conversion to 48-inch width, that we are also adding franchise positions for a lot of our advertisers, as we are looking at the 48-inch conversion, which will be sold very proactively to a lot of our advertisers.

  • Lauren Fine - Analyst

  • If I could sneak in one more question, with the consolidation of the plants, could you discuss what you think the change in D&A will be?

  • Because obviously when you built Edison, I'm sure you imagined a longer life for it.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • We haven't really worked all through those calculations, yet.

  • We will have more to say on that when the numbers get firmed up.

  • Lauren Fine - Analyst

  • All right, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Debra Schwartz with Credit Suisse.

  • Debra Schwartz - Analyst

  • I was wondering, could just give us an update on your cost initiatives at the Globe?

  • Maybe give us a sense of how costs and margins were there for the quarter.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • There has been a very concerted effort at The Boston Globe for a number of years, a program in fact entitled Streamline to Grow, that has been looked at – really has looked at all departments.

  • It has looked at certainly the workforce, the workforce needed, but also in regard to how we are looking at the use of newsprint.

  • If you remember correctly, there has been a consolidation in printing there primarily at Billerica and at the Morrissey Boulevard facility as well.

  • So from all aspects, whether it be newsprint conservation, looking at the workforce, costs attributed really across the Globe, across the entire organization.

  • Particularly with the back-office consolidation of the Worcester Telegram and Boston, we have been able to look at very, very strong savings in Boston and continue to going forward.

  • They too are looking at the opportunities to really look at print and digital working very collaboratively together, to better utilize the resources built on the news side and on the business side, which of course, will add towards productivity.

  • Debra Schwartz - Analyst

  • Great, thank you. b

  • Craig Huber - Analyst

  • With this new $150 million capex project, I was just wondering – is your thoughts of doing further Internet acquisitions over the next year and a half – is that sort of curtailed for a while?

  • Or are you comfortable really jacking up your debt leverage quite a bit?

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • I think we are fine with where we are.

  • It's certainly a number that we have been thinking about for some time, even though we haven't talked publicly about it.

  • We are comfortable that we will have enough cash flow being given from our investments that we currently have made, with our current levels of debt, to be able to handle any acquisition.

  • Obviously, we're not talking about an acquisition of the size of About.com, which would require us to do something.

  • But our building expense, as you know, will be done next year, so that frees up an additional resource.

  • Craig Huber - Analyst

  • As a follow-up, could you break out your real estate trends in the quarter for Boston and New York City?

  • Then my final question.

  • Can you just elaborate, what your non-newsprint cash cost percent change was in the quarter?

  • Thanks.

  • Catherine Mathis - VP Corporate Communications

  • Craig, could you repeat the second part of your question?

  • Craig Huber - Analyst

  • Just non-newsprint cash cost percent change in the quarter, please, for the newspaper division.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • Real estate in New England, April was down about 10%;

  • May was down about 5%; and June was down about 9%; for a total of about 9% in the quarter.

  • At the Regional Group, it was up 36% in April; 37% in May; and 42% in June; for a second-quarter performance up 38%.

  • What was the other category, Craig?

  • Craig Huber - Analyst

  • The same numbers for New York City, if you would, please.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • New York was up 16% in April;

  • May was up 19%;

  • June was up 19%; so the second quarter performed positive 18%.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • Craig, I think you asked about non raw material cash costs?

  • Craig Huber - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • They were up a little over 2%, 2.2% for the quarter.

  • Craig Huber - Analyst

  • It sounds like from your comments you would be able to hold it to that or hopefully better in the second half of the year.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • Well, we are looking; we think our trends are going in the right direction.

  • You remember what are cost increases were in the first quarter; this is a big improvement in the second.

  • As all of the programs that we put in place over the last 12 months begin to kick in, we continue to expect good cost improvement.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • This goes directly to the drive on productivity that really started about 18 months ago.

  • Continually we have seen the benefits, and we certainly will see that going forward in the second half.

  • Craig Huber - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Edward Atorino with Benchmark Company.

  • Edward Atorino - Analyst

  • Most of mine have been answered, but could you go into the July trends a little bit on advertising at The Times?

  • Given the changes taking place at Federated, would you think Macy's would be back as a bigger advertiser up in Boston?

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • With regard to July, just to reiterate what Janet said in --.

  • Edward Atorino - Analyst

  • I didn't get it all, I'm sorry.

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • That's fine.

  • Happy to repeat it.

  • We are seeing strength in July in our fashion categories and in banking.

  • We had a great second quarter in banking.

  • With regard to residential real estate, – we're starting to comp against the growth of last year.

  • So while it is strong it is not quite at the robust levels that we saw in the first half.

  • The challenges continue to be studio entertainment for all of reasons we have discussed and reported over the first half of this year.

  • Automotive, we are cycling against the discount programs of last year and the promotion behind those.

  • Corporate is up against some very tough campaigns, large campaigns from last year.

  • We had a very good first half in corporate, but it is cycling against those difficult comps.

  • So that is really going to affect our performance.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • In regard to the Boston situation, we [deal] with certainly Macy's very strong push that you have read about.

  • They are a very strong branding advertiser.

  • We expect that we will see some growth from them as the months progress and certainly next year.

  • But is also important to note what I said earlier about the changing retail scene in Boston going into 2007.

  • As I think you know, Barneys opened a flagship up there.

  • We have gotten some nice revenue from them.

  • Neiman Marcus plans to open a second store in 2007.

  • Nordstrom plans to open three stores over the next three years, starting in 2007.

  • We are also seeing some strong growth from Coehoe's and Ikea.

  • Also, there is an opportunity in regard to a new mall, which is more of a lifestyle mall that will be opening shortly in the Burlington area.

  • So all in all, it impacts us in September of this year.

  • All in all, there is an opportunity, we think, for retail growth going forward in Boston.

  • Edward Atorino - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • John Janedis with Wachovia Securities.

  • John Janedis - Analyst

  • I think you expanded your auto section during the quarter at The Times.

  • Can you talk about how that impacted your revenues and where your incremental ad pages are coming from?

  • Then I have a brief follow-up.

  • Thank you.

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • We introduced an enhanced, redesigned Sunday automotive section in April.

  • We expect it to add quite substantially to our budget expectations for 2006.

  • We are seeing new dealers come into the environment, and we are in a position to capture the national spending trends.

  • John Janedis - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Just on About.com, clearly you have had some pretty great growth since the deal closed.

  • From your comments, is it fair to assume that the inventory is close to a level where you feel comfortable and most of the growth going forward is from the pricing side?

  • Also, on the margin side, do you think you are nearing a steady state there?

  • Martin Nisenholtz - SVP Digital Operations

  • On the inventory question, again, it is important to keep in mind that the mix of revenue at About is both CPM-based inventory and CPC-based.

  • So to the extent that we are adding pages, we are adding CPC; and to the extent that we are adding pages, we are adding CPM.

  • The pages have increased, I think as Janet suggested in her earlier remarks, quite dramatically.

  • So for example, June-to-June page views grew from 420 million to 543 million.

  • So we are still seeing a lot of benefits from the SEO side.

  • With respect and margins, you know, margins have increased this year.

  • We expect to continue to see robust revenue growth.

  • Obviously, we need to continue to invest in the business in order to make it as quick growing and as robust as we want it to be.

  • But the model is one where we have a variable cost on the Guide side.

  • So in a sense, the more successful we are the better margin performance should be.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • It is also important to note that the e-commerce line continues to grow also.

  • So to Martin's good point, it is three streams.

  • It is display, it is cost-per-click and e-commerce.

  • John Janedis - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Christa Sober Quarles with Thomas Weisel.

  • Christa Sober Quarles - Analyst

  • Actually just a follow-up on that.

  • I was wondering if you could give the mix of those three categories, display, CPC, and e-commerce at About.

  • Then I think you guys are starting to cycle over some of the dramatic improvements in terms of monetization that you were able to get out of them since owning.

  • I think June moderated; obviously, still strong at 39%.

  • But I guess as you look out, are some of those low-hanging fruits sort of done?

  • Then finally, also if you could just highlight what the CPM trends are at The New York Times digital?

  • Thanks.

  • Martin Nisenholtz - SVP Digital Operations

  • Sure.

  • Obviously, these numbers move around a little bit, because the CPC to CPM ratios change month-to-month; and as Janet said, e-commerce has been growing as well.

  • But in general, the ad and pay-and-click lines are roughly 50-50.

  • E-commerce has grown from a very small base.

  • It was around $1 million in the second quarter.

  • But from a small base it's been growing very rapidly with that PriceGrabber deal.

  • So we saw strength in CPC over the quarter, so I would say that there was a little bit more than 50% for CPC, a little bit less than 50% for CPM.

  • But in general it is a very, very healthy mix.

  • With respect to the Times CPM trends, the CPMs continue to climb in certain parts of the Web site.

  • So for the large ad positions in rich media, CPMs continued to climb.

  • For run of site, they have been fairly flat.

  • That has been true I think pretty much across the digital side.

  • Having said that, we have laid in several price increases over the last year.

  • Our overall CPM and productivity per page has risen by about 33% over the last year.

  • So our ability to extract value from the marketplace on that Web site continues to improve.

  • I think as Janet said at the outset, the redesign is only going to enhance that over the coming months.

  • Christa Sober Quarles - Analyst

  • Can you also -- I guess, just one quick follow-on.

  • You mentioned rich media, but we're hearing that video ads, for example, have gotten tremendous.

  • There is tremendous demand for those, and whether or not you're able to I guess monetize those as well?

  • Martin Nisenholtz - SVP Digital Operations

  • Yes, in fact, part of the reason that we introduced a video player on the Times Web site was to improve or enhance the amount of inventory we could generate from the site.

  • So I would say at this stage, pretty much as much inventory as we can generate we can sell.

  • The issue is not so much the demand.

  • There is a tremendous amount of demand for rich media.

  • But how do we continue to push out rich media to the users’ side?

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • In answer to your question in regards to the low-hanging fruit at About, we have continued to expand About.

  • I noted earlier, that we have 42 new guides already this year, with many more to come.

  • Certainly the video that we are adding is creating lots more inventory and certainly premium price opportunities for About.

  • What Martin said earlier in regard to the search engine optimization expertise that we acquired with About, it's certainly monetizing very, very nicely for us going forward.

  • Christa Sober Quarles - Analyst

  • Great, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Lisa Monaco with Morgan Stanley.

  • Lisa Monaco - Analyst

  • Yes, Janet, could you just give us a little bit more color or specifics on retail at the Globe versus The Times?

  • Then, secondly, Len, if you could give us an idea of what you expect, quote unquote, maintenance capex will be kind of in the '07-'08 period.

  • Thanks.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • Retail advertising was soft in New England.

  • It was primarily driven, as you have heard several times, by the closing of Filene's.

  • But one of the areas that is showing a great deal of improvement – that has performed extremely well, estimated upward trending, a very pronounced upward trending – is home-related category.

  • That category has performed well all year long, and we think it will continue as the year goes on.

  • It is based on, certainly, a competition between Home Depot and Lowe's, really, with head-to-head combat there.

  • As I said, when you are looking at the retail openings as the year goes on and going into 2007, there is some opportunity for very good replacement dollars in regard to the Filene's loss, with Barneys, Nordstrom's, Neiman Marcus, and many of the others that I noted earlier, Lisa.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • It is a little too early to talk about capex going out for two years.

  • But our maintenance capital has typically been between 90 and $110 million, and no reason to believe it will be anything more than that.

  • Although keep in mind, once the building ends we have got some incremental spending on the plant consolidation, which we just talked about, and on SAP.

  • But our overall rates are within the 115 (inaudible).

  • Catherine Mathis - VP Corporate Communications

  • Lisa, what Len meant to say is that -- on the plant consolidation.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • Sorry about that.

  • Lisa Monaco - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Janet, is there any way to quantify retail in New York versus New England?

  • Then just secondly, on the other revenue line it looks like growth moderated just a bit in June.

  • Can you elaborate on what we should expect for the second half?

  • Thanks.

  • Scott Heekin-Canedy - President, General Manager

  • With regard to the second-quarter retail, we saw modest growth in New York, roughly 3%.

  • It was driven by a very strong May.

  • The New England Media Group saw a very strong May as well.

  • But overall for the quarter, they were down around 7%.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • One of the major elements of differential between New York and Boston is really Filene's.

  • When you look at how the Globe really benefited from Filene's for several years and the accelerated pullout of Filene's in Boston, which has been the thing that has had the major effect in regard to the retail performance in Boston as opposed to New York.

  • Lisa Monaco - Analyst

  • Then just on the other revenue line for the Company as a whole?

  • Catherine Mathis - VP Corporate Communications

  • The other revenue line, Lisa, includes TimesSelect, and we will begin to anniversary that in September.

  • So you need to keep that in mind.

  • The other component, though, of the other revenue includes commercial printing, and that has been growing very, very nicely.

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • You have seen that particularly with what I mentioned earlier in regard to Worcester and the Globe printing other newspapers, that have been decided increases in revenue streams in the New England Group.

  • Lisa Monaco - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • John Janedis with Wachovia.

  • John Janedis - Analyst

  • I'm sorry, just a quick follow-up related to the TimesSelect product, Janet.

  • I think you had something like a 13,000 increase in paying subs during the quarter.

  • Are you planning to, I guess, up the promotion to take that higher?

  • Have you been able to sell advertising on that vertical, if you will, at higher rates because of better demographic data?

  • Janet Robinson - President, CEO

  • We are right now at 513,000.

  • As I noted, 37% of those are online-only subscribers.

  • The remaining are print subscribers that receive TimesSelect as a benefit, which really has nicely positively affected retention.

  • We are pleased with what we have seen with TimesSelect.

  • We are coming up on the anniversary in the late September time frame in regard to renewals and do plan to do some very effective promotion centering around that, to not only retain what we already have but certainly to grow that as well.

  • That includes some very unique content, good creative content, original content, a lot of video, and also some wonderful opportunities regarding our archives.

  • So yes, there is a strong promotional opportunity in play right now.

  • Martin Nisenholtz - SVP Digital Operations

  • With respect to the advertising question, yes, we have sold TimesSelect as a special audience; and we do extract a higher price for that.

  • John Janedis - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Peter Appert with Goldman Sachs.

  • Peter Appert - Analyst

  • Yes, it looks like over the last couple of quarters, the share shift from print online in help wanted has accelerated.

  • So two questions.

  • One, are you seeing that phenomenon in the other classified categories?

  • And two, maybe for Martin, do you think that suggests there might be an opportunity for a change in the pricing model on the online side?

  • Specifically more aggressive pricing online or maybe increased discounting on the print side.

  • Martin Nisenholtz - SVP Digital Operations

  • I think it depends on the category.

  • I certainly don't think that real estate has followed the same trend as help wanted, if you look at the numbers.

  • In fact it followed the opposite trend.

  • Automotive is as well.

  • It differs by property, but help wanted is kind of its own category.

  • With respect to the pricing issue, we consistently look at pricing.

  • We have raised prices in help wanted just as we have across all of our digital categories over the last year.

  • We will continue to do that as the market accepts those increases.

  • I might add that we have layered in search engine optimization in help wanted, and it is one of the strongest growth categories with respect to traffic at The Times Web site.

  • I think it is up almost 200% in terms of search refers.

  • If you go, for example, onto Google, which I did today, and you type in New York jobs, you will find that our job Web site is the third-linked Web site on Google.

  • So our ability to extract value is dependent upon our ability to grow the site; and we have been endeavoring to do that through SEO for the last year.

  • Peter Appert - Analyst

  • Martin, I know this is tricky, but is there a way to quantify the price differential or equivalent ad, print and online, in the help-wanted category?

  • Martin Nisenholtz - SVP Digital Operations

  • I really don't think that is possible to do.

  • It's a very, very different format.

  • Peter Appert - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Then Len, can you remind me what the major components of joint venture equity income are?

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • We have income from our investments in our newsprint equities.

  • We have from Discovery until we continue to exercise our put, and from New England Ventures.

  • Those are the major components.

  • Peter Appert - Analyst

  • Is the newsprint -- can can you just give us a rough idea of sort of percentages from each of those?

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • No, Peter.

  • We don't disclose that information.

  • Peter Appert - Analyst

  • Well, you're leaving, so now could be the time.

  • By the way, we're going to miss you a ton, Len.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • There’s a disclosure agreement, Peter.

  • Peter Appert - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Michael Kupinski with A.G. Edwards.

  • Michael Kupinski - Analyst

  • In the last quarter, you repurchased a fairly modest amount of shares, 500,000.

  • You have a fairly large share repurchase authorization.

  • I was wondering if you can give us some thoughts about share repurchases at current levels; and whether or not you expect to pick up the pace of share repurchases in the coming quarters.

  • Len Forman - EVP, CFO

  • As you know, we have slowed down our share repurchases, given our other uses of capital.

  • Our decision on whether to increase or decrease our share program really is a function of where we see the best return for our investments.

  • So rather than make a forecast, I will simply say that we will continue with our policy, which is to basically offset any options that are exercised.

  • We have not had very many, given where the stock is, so we have obviously slowed down our repurchases.

  • We have got a discovery put option that we have exercised; and certainly share repurchases are a reasonable use of that cash unless a better investment comes along.

  • Michael Kupinski - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • That does conclude today's question-and-answer session.

  • I would like to turn the conference back over for any additional or closing remarks.

  • Catherine Mathis - VP Corporate Communications

  • Thank you very much for attending our earnings conference call.

  • If you do have any other questions, please feel free to call me.

  • Thank you very much.