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Operator
Good day.
Welcome everyone to the Mattel incorporated second quarter 2005 earnings results conference call.
Today's call is being recorded.
With us today from the Company is the Chairman and CEO of Mattel, Mr. Bob Eckert.
Please go ahead, sir.
- Chairman, CEO
Good morning.
I would like to welcome everyone to the call including Mike Salaf our new Treasurer and Senior Vice President of External Affairs.
During his fifteen year career with Mattel, Mike has had the unique opportunity to work in seven positions, six departments, and in three Mattel locations including American Girl in Wisconsin and our European offices in Amsterdam.
I am confident that Mike's diverse and wide ranging experience at Mattel will bring continued success to the External Affairs department which includes Investor Relations as well as Corporate Communications, Government Affairs, Consumer Affairs and our philanthropic arm the Mattel children's foundation.
I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Dianne Douglas for her stellar leadership of the IR and External Affairs functions over the past four years, but I really want to thank her for getting up early just one more time.
Dianne, congratulations on your new position as CIO of Mike, welcome to the early morning team.
Now I would like to turn the call over it Mike.
- Treasurer, SVP, External Affairs
Thanks, Bob.
Also on the call with us this morning is Kevin Farr our Chief Financial Officer.
As you know earlier this morning we issued a press release which detailed our results for the second quarter on the call today Bob's going to provide some brief remarks about the quarter, Kevin will review the financial results and then we'll open the call up to your questions.
Before we begin the formal remarks, let me note certain statements made today may include forward-looking statements about management's expectations, strategic objectives, anticipated financial performance and other similar matters.
Such forward-looking statements will include statements regarding performance of Barbie and our other core brands and product lines.
Market share, profits and margins, cost and expenses, management of costs and expenses, including continuous improvement initiatives, supply chain management, repatriation of unremitted forma earnings and the tax effect thereof.
Capital deployment.
Returning excess capital to shareholders and the decision making process related thereto, and creation of value for shareholders.
There may be additional forward-looking statements in response to questions or otherwise.
We intend for these additional forward-looking statements to be covered by this cautionary statement.
A variety of factors many of which are beyond our control affect the operations, performance, business strategy, and results of Mattel and could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements.
Some of these factors are described in our 2004 report on form 10-K filed with the SEC and Mattel's other filings made with the SEC from time to time.
As well as in Mattel other public statements.
Mattel does not update forward-looking statements and expressly disclaims any obligation to do so.
Information required by Regulation G regarding non-GAAP financial measures is available on the investors or media section of our corporate website www.mattel.com under the sub headings financial information and earnings release now I would like to turn the call back over to Bob.
- Chairman, CEO
Thank you, Mike.
Well, Kevin will take you through the financial details I would like to take a moment and give you my thoughts on the second quarter.
As I've said before, 2005 looks to be a challenging year for Mattel and the second quarter was consistent with that outlook.
Our positive top line sales trend this quarter benefited from key contributions from entertainment properties such as Batman, Dora the Explorer and the Disney Princesses line.
We also had solid growth from American Girl, Hot Wheels, and Fisher-Price BabyGear.
As I outlined in last quarter's call our margins continue to be under pressure primarily from record high petroleum prices.
Additionally the current mix of product including sales of higher royalty related properties is having a negative effect on margins.
On a year-to-date basis, our shipments to retail customers, our customer supply POS data, and NPD data all say our business is essentially flat.
From a shipping perspective the second quarter gains offset first quarter declines.
And of course our American Girl business which isn't sold through mass retailers has been booming all year.
Overall our performance at retail compares favorably to the rest of the industry as we continue to build market share.
As I've said on previous occasions we don't run the business for 90 day intervals, we run the business for long-term and for the toy business, which is an annual cycle business with an emphasis in the second half, that means focusing on optimizing the year.
I will remind everyone that historically about 70% of our shipments occur in the second half so we have a lot of work ahead of us.
Finally, we continue to focus on strategically returning excess cash to shareholders with 12.9 million shares repurchased in the second quarter this year.
Since 2003 we have repurchased over 40 million shares representing about 9% of our shares outstanding.
We continue to focus on generating and effectively deploying the terrific cash flow capabilities of this business.
Thank you.
Now I would like to turn the call over to Kevin for a financial review of the quarter.
- CFO
Thank you, Bob, and good morning, everyone.
My remarks regarding the second quarter financial performance will be organized in the following manner: revenues by geography, business unit and brands, key drivers in the P&L, cash flow, and balance sheet at June 30, 2005.
To facilitate my review of the financial performance for the second quarter I recommend that you refer to the exhibits in the press release.
I will begin with a discussion of worldwide gross sales shown on exhibit 2.
Total worldwide growth sales for the second quarter were up 10% which included a benefit from changes in currency exchange rates of 2 percentage points.
Gross sales in the U.S. increased 9% while international gross sales increased 11% including a benefit of 5 percentage points from changes in currency exchange rates.
On a regional basis, sales for the second quarter in Europe were up 8% including a 3 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Sales in Latin America were up 32% including an 8 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Asia Pacific was up 6% including a 6 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
And sales in Canada were up 2% including a 6 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
I will now review our four categories and brands.
Mattel brands, for the quarter, worldwide sales for Mattel brands were up 10% including a 3 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Domestic and international sales were both up 10% and international sales included a 5 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Worldwide Barbie sales were down 4% including a 2 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates for the second quarter.
Barbie sales in the U.S. declined 6% when compared to the second quarter of 2004.
In international markets Barbie was down 3% including a 4 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Worldwide sales of other girls brands were up double digits driven by new product introductions including Disney Princesses, Winx club, Furryville, and Pound Puppies.
Worldwide sales for the Wheels business was up 4% including a 3 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Worldwide sales in Entertainment business were up 27% versus the prior year including a 4 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
The growth in the entertainment category primarily reflects strong sales of Batman products fueled by the movie release in June and the Scene IT? game which more than offset declines in Yu-Gi-Oh and Harry Potter.
Fisher-Price brands for the quarter, worldwide sales for Fisher-Price brands were up 7% including a 1 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Domestic sales at Fisher-Price brands were up 4% and international sales were up 15% including a 4 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Worldwide sales at core Fisher-Price were up 5% including a 2 percentage point benefit from changes in currency exchange rates.
Reflecting strong growth internationally driven by the continued success with the Infant and BabyGear lines.
Worldwide sales at Fisher-Price Friends were up 22% including a benefit of 1 percentage point from changes in currency exchange rates.
The double digit growth was primarily driven by the continued strength of Dora the Explorer property.
American Girl brands, sales of American Girl brands were up 20% reflecting strength in the American Girls collection and American Girl today driven by the continued success of the new doll launched in January and the continued strong performances of our American Girl retail stores.
Now, let's review the P&L which is shown on exhibit 1.
Gross margin was 43.6% for the second quarter of 2005 which decreased by 200 basis points versus the second quarter of last year.
Compared with the prior year second quarter, the gross margin benefited from changes in currency exchange rates and price increases which became effective January 1, 2005.
However, these benefits were more than offset by external cost pressures including higher raw materials and transportation costs as well as sales lower margin product and higher royalty costs.
There is no question that the cost of manufacturing and distributing toys is going up.
But we remain committed to at least partially offset these upward cost pressures through continuous improvement initiatives.
These initiatives which include E-procurement and the centralization of our global spending are aimed at driving costs out of the sourcing and distribution networks as well as our overhead structure.
For the quarter advertising expense was 93.1 million or 10.5% of net sales flat versus prior year as a percentage of net sales.
Selling, general, and administrative expenses were 265.2 million or 29.9% of net sales for the quarter up 26.5 million or 20 basis points compared with last year's second quarter.
In comparing the SG&A in the current year second quarter to 2004 the following items should be noted: in 2004 there was a 4.4 million charge for severance primarily related to moving our Matchbox and Tyco R/C offices to California and a net benefit of 10.1 million related to legal settlements.
Exclusive to these items SG&A in 2005 was negatively impacted by higher employee related costs and changes in currency exchange rates on overhead costs in international markets.
Primarily the Europe.
For the quarter, operating income was 28.5 million down 34% versus last year, as a percentage of net sales operating income was 3.2% down 220 basis points compared with the prior year.
Interest expense was 19.6 million for the quarter compared with 16.4 million in the second quarter of 2004.
Compared to last year, this year's interest expense reflects the impact of higher short term borrowing rates, partially offset by the benefit of lower long-term debt outstanding.
Other non-operating income net was 4.7 million versus 1.5 million a year ago.
This quarter's other non-operating income net primarily relates to gains from the sale of marketable securities.
As of June 30, 2005, the Company had approximately 9 million in unrealized pre-tax gains on the balance sheet associated with marketable securities.
The second quarter provision for income taxes reflects 112.9 million of tax expense related to the repatriation of unremitted foreign earnings under the American Jobs Creation Act.
The tax expense recognized is based on the total planned 2.4 billion to be repatriated this year and includes the favorable effects of the most recent guidance on the Act issued by the IRS.
So, to summarize the P&L for the quarter, we reported a net loss of $94 million or $0.23 per share versus last year's second quarter net income of 23.5 million or $0.06 per share.
In addition to the negative impact of the HACA related tax expense, the financial results reflect the positive impact from higher sales volume that was more than offset by lower margins.
Now, turning to the cash flow and balance sheet shown on exhibit 3, cash used for operations in the first half of 2005 was approximately 551 million, an increase of 33 million versus the first half of 2004.
Cash use for investing activities was approximately 32 million including capital expenditures of 59 million.
Cash use for financing activities and other was approximately 212 million including 231 million used to repurchase shares of the Company's common stock.
During the second quarter the Company repurchased 12.9 million shares at an average cost of $18.30 per year -- per share.
Cash on hand at the end of the second quarter was 362 million consistent with cash on hand a year ago.
Our receivables were 692 million, up 70 million with 70 days of sales outstanding which is consistent with last year.
Before factoring which was 120 million down 7 million versus the prior year receivables were up 63 million with day sales outstanding improving by two days.
Inventory at 580 million were up 22 million or 4% versus last year's second quarter and represented 56 days of supply improving by 1 day compared to last year.
Our total balance sheet debt decreased by 86 million and our debt net of cash decreased by 84 million from the second quarter of 2004.
Our debt to total capital ratio was 23% at the end of the quarter compared with 26.3% at the same time last year.
Despite the positive top line growth during the quarter, the environment continues to be challenging.
We had some successes with key entertainment properties like Disney Princesses and Batman and continued growth in Fisher-Price and American Girl but rising input costs and overhead cost pressures are more than offsetting our top line progress.
It's still early in the year and we remain focused on rebuilding profitable growth across all of our brands in all of our markets because we believe that will drive long-term value creation.
But this will take time and will require continued investment in the near term to ensure success over the long-term.
That concludes my review of the financial results.
Now we would like to open the call to questions.
Operator?
Operator
Thank you, sir. [OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS] We'll take our first question from Sean McGowan with Harris Nesbitt.
- Analyst
Hi guys, thank you.
A couple of detail questions, Kevin, on product performance.
Can you tell us what the performance was in the U.S. for Hot Wheels specifically, that brand, and for Fisher-Price?
- CFO
Sure, Sean.
Hot Wheels in the U.S. were -- for the second quarter was 2%, up 2% and with regard to Fisher-Price, domestic, was basically up -- was flat.
- Analyst
Flat.
Okay.
And then a follow-up.
- CFO
I am sorry, was at a 4%.
- Analyst
4%.
Okay.
- CFO
Sorry about that.
- Analyst
Great.
And on Barbie, can you just kind of talk generally about where you're seeing strength in terms of both shipments and retail sales by segment.
There's a lot of -- at this point almost everything is relatively new and the new program and the new world and everything.
Can you just give us an update on how that is working?
Thanks.
- Chairman, CEO
Hi, Sean, this is Bob.
Since the beginning I said that the Barbie turn-around will take time.
So it continues to be a top priority for us.
We have seen some improvements across some of the lines including Fairytopia, Fashion Fever, our Collector business, and with some customers, but on year-to-date basis if you look across everything our total shipments, the customer supply POS and NPD still show mid-teens declines.
Really driven by the category we call Barbie Forever which tends to be some of the older products.
They are new but it is not tied to the world.
We still have a lot of work to do on Barbie and the competitive environment will continue to be challenging.
With competition particularly this fall like Dora the Explorer which is a Mattel property, Disney Princesses which is Mattel, the Baby Brats line and Hasbro's My Little Pony.
In fact if you look, Sean, across our broader girls portfolio, that is including Barbie and Polly Pocket and Disney Princesses and American Girl among others, we're growing mid-single digits on a year-to-date basis which supports our strategy to broaden the portfolio and be less reliant on any single brand.
That said, we love all of our children and we want them all to grow including Barbie so we need to continue working on regaining relevance with girls, rebuilding market share and restoring retailer confidence.
Barbie is still the number one brand of anything girls.
In fact, Barbie is still the number one brand in stores this year despite the success of things like Star Wars and Batman.
So it continues to be an important sizable business for us.
Parts of it are working, but parts of it need more work.
- Analyst
Great.
Thanks, and Kevin, just one quick question on the status of the buy back and where we are on that and what can we expect?
Thanks.
- CFO
Okay.
I think in the -- over the past two years we've repurchased over 40 million shares for nearly 740 million representing 9% of our sales at an average price of $18.25.
I think in the quarter and year-to-date 2005 we've purchased 12.9 million shares for 236.5 million at an average late of $18.30.
- Analyst
So you've still got a little further to go, then.
- CFO
Yes, we have a $250 million authorization that was approved by the Board on March 22, 2005.
- Analyst
Thank you.
- Chairman, CEO
That, Sean, is almost fully depleted.
- Analyst
Right.
Okay.
Thank you.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Margaret Whitfield with Ryan Beck Investments.
- Analyst
Good morning, everyone, and welcome back, Mike.
- Treasurer, SVP, External Affairs
Thanks, Margaret.
- Analyst
Just curious, Bob, what the early read is on Batman and any early read on fall products such as The Magic of Pegasys?
- Chairman, CEO
Batman has clearly done well all year for us, Margaret.
In fact, ever since we've had the property.
It was up double digits at POS even before the movie hit and before the advertising hit, so with the advertising and the movie, we're particularly encouraged by sales at retail.
Our customers are pleased with Batman, and we see a lot of action continuing on Batman throughout this fall and in fact into next year.
Because we still have once the movie is done and after it comes out on DVD, we still have the cartoon show and we have comic books, so even without a movie, Batman has historically been one of the top ten male action properties and this year I suspect it will come in second place behind Star Wars, but it's done really well.
The Magic of Pegasys is only in a handful of stores right now.
It has done well, but it is very early and again we'll have a lot of competition this fall from DVD and movie related themes.
Disney Princesses will be very big behind the Cinderella launch.
We of course support the dolls, and there will be other competition within DVDs for girls, but the early read on The Magic of Pegasys is encouraging.
But it's fairly early.
- Analyst
I take it the gross margin trends we've seen this quarter, you're not looking for any near term relief and have you considered or are you thinking further about price increases for the '06 line?
- Chairman, CEO
Well, as I have said before, Margaret, we're really not priced to petroleum or oil based at 50 to $60 a barrel which is what it's been running.
Should the input costs continue and that is not only petroleum based costs but labor and other costs, should the costs continue to be at the level they're at today, we'll have to do something about it next year.
- Analyst
Okay.
Thank you.
- Chairman, CEO
Thanks, Margaret.
Operator
[OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS] We'll take our next question from Tony Gikas with Piper Jaffray.
- Analyst
Good morning, guys.
Could you be a little bit more specific on the increases to cost of labor and manufacturing portion of the business and how quickly can you transition away from some geographies to some new geographies to lower that cost and then could you just clarify the amount of what's left on the current 250 million buy back?
- Chairman, CEO
Let me start, Tony, with the transition geographically.
It would take a long time to transition out of one country into another, and I will remind you that 80% of the world's toys are manufactured outside of the U.S. and in fact in Asia and specifically, I think it's 70 or 80% in China.
I suspect that Chinese production will continue to be very high in the toy business and we're not looking to make short term moves out of China.
Now, we do have other facilities in which we self manufacture in Indonesia and Thailand, Mexico and in other countries, but I suspect that the entire industry will be in China for at least the mid-term.
- CFO
And then looking at margins, Tony, coming into the year we expected the gross margin to be under pressure as we faced cost pressures for raw materials, transportation, and as we continue to invest in our brands and regain sales momentum.
There is a lot of moving parts in second quarter margin.
We don't want to get too detailed.
But if you look at it, our price increase initiated in 2005 and the benefit of foreign exchange were not enough to offset sterile cost pressures including higher raw materials and transportation costs.
And additionally margins were negatively impacted by lower margin products and higher royalty costs and when you look at those cost headwinds we expect them to continue throughout the year for things like oil and resins and transportation costs.
And to partially absorb the increasing (INAUDIBLE) costs as we said earlier today we instituted modest price increase at the beginning of January, whether these increases are enough to fully offset the continued rise in oil prices and other labor costs remain to be seen, but I can tell you we're not priced for oil in the 50s or higher for that matter.
We're going to continue to extend possible working savings and procurement initiatives to help offset at least some of the pressure in gross margins but there's no assurances that we will be successful in offsetting these costs.
Then with respect to your other question with regard to how much is left with respect to the share repurchase authorization, the Board approved a $250 million authorization in March.
We spent 236.5 million.
So approximately 13.5 million more available to spend under that authorization.
- Analyst
Just a quick follow-up on the labor.
I thought we talked about at the analyst day two, three weeks ago that there were -- you were planning on and looking at some new geographies to move to shift a little bit of manufacturing, of course the majority of it will remain in China, is that a process that continues to be underway and how material is that?
- Chairman, CEO
Yes, Tony, I would consider it a long-term prospect however and certainly near term it would not be material.
- Analyst
Thanks, guys.
- Chairman, CEO
Thanks, Tony.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Linda Bolton Weiser with Oppenheimer.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Can you actually give us a quantification of what kind of pricing you did achieve in the quarter?
And also can you comment as to whether the mix of the Barbie business dolls versus accessories had any effect on the gross margin in the quarter?
- Chairman, CEO
Well, I think, Linda, we talked about pricing going into this year being up about 3 or 4% across the line, and that is an average, but that's a pretty good number on a worldwide basis and across most of the major brands.
Regarding mix shift of Barbie, it was not significant in this past quarter.
The dolls are doing a little bit better than the accessories business but that's not a real key driver of the business overall right now.
- Analyst
Okay.
Great.
Thanks very much.
I appreciate it.
- Chairman, CEO
Thanks, Linda.
Operator
We'll take our next question from John Taylor with Arcadia Investment Corporation.
- Analyst
Good morning and welcome back, Mike, from me, too.
- Treasurer, SVP, External Affairs
Thanks.
- Analyst
Could you talk a little bit about the -- what your expectations are for the revenue mix by sort of gross category and I guess what I am going to drive at here is do you expect that royalty as a percent of revenue or having an impact on gross margins is going to change in the second half very much versus the first half.
That's the first thing.
Second, I unfortunately wasn't able to make your thing a couple of weeks ago.
Could you give me a quick sketch of what you've got going on for the Potter movie coming out.
Thank you.
- Chairman, CEO
Hi, JT, it's Bob.
I tell you, Allison Eckert read Harry Potter 6 this weekend.
So the preview on Harry Potter 6 was good.
Movie 4 out around Thanksgiving.
We have a very limited line supporting Harry Potter 4, and broadly speaking, I think we'll continue to see this year relatively higher revenues out of our royalty related properties.
Batman's done really well.
Dora the Explorer is absolutely on fire, and even games like Scene It? require a higher royalty than most other things, so I wouldn't want to get into specific projections but I think I would characterize this year as being relatively higher on the royalty related properties.
- Analyst
Okay.
Thank you.
- Chairman, CEO
Thanks, JT.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Dean Gianoukos with JP Morgan.
- Analyst
Hi, I'm pretty much all set.
Just one thing, were there any write downs in the quarter on product affecting the margin or is it pretty much everything you mentioned.
- CFO
It is pretty much what I mentioned.
I think as I said, Dean, favorably impacted by the price increase and foreign exchange and then that was more than offset by costs, mix and royalties.
- Analyst
So you're happy with inventory or retail overall?
- CFO
Yes.
- Analyst
Okay, thanks.
- Chairman, CEO
Yes, I think, Dean, just to follow-up on that, when we look at our shipments in and POS at retail supplied by our top customers, our calculation of retail inventories is that they're down right now on a low single digit basis.
- Analyst
Great.
Thank you.
- Chairman, CEO
Thanks, Dean.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Leia Zolser with Citigroup.
- Analyst
Thank you.
I just had two quick questions.
First, I was hoping maybe you could break out the gross margin increase between what was license related and what was just general cost related?
- Chairman, CEO
What's your second question?
- Analyst
With respect to the Barbie strategy, you commented earlier that part of the weakness came from Barbie Forever and products that weren't tied to Worlds.
Can you give us a sense maybe of what percentage of Barbie sales relate to those non-World product and whether or not that will be going away over time?
I was under the impression that most of the new product coming out this year was going to be linked to the Worlds.
- Chairman, CEO
Yes, we don't get into a specific contribution of the line by segment but you are right.
Most of the product today is related to World.
Some of the Worlds are doing well.
Some of them like Cali Girl didn't do as well this spring as it did last fall or as we had hoped for too, this fall.
Generally speaking more and more of the line is shifting towards Worlds, but we don't get into the split of contribution by World.
- Analyst
And any comment on the gross margin and what we might attribute to the license properties versus general cost increases?
- CFO
Again, we're not going to get into that level of detail.
I think we've indicated that input costs, royalties, and mix negatively impacted our gross margins.
- Analyst
Okay.
Thanks, guys.
- CFO
Thanks, Liz.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Tim Conder with AG Edwards.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Could you just remind us what your strategy is or philosophy is on hedging relative to the resident transport costs and then along the same vein European pending regulations, just maybe give us an daylight of your thoughts there and how you're going to deal with those relating to various chemicals and the plastic season toys that they're trying to I guess restrain?
- Chairman, CEO
Tim, this is Bob.
Let me start with what's going on in Europe as it relates to fallates (ph).
We diligently monitor the safety of our products.
I am proud to say that our toys are some of the safest and most rigorously tested children's products in the world.
We use only ingredients that are in compliance with the European regulations and the regulatory environment is changing.
We've led the way in meeting and in most cases exceeding those standards.
For example, I think it was back in 1999 that the EU banned the use of fallates in all mouth toys designed for children under 36 months.
We eliminated fallates from all of our mouth toys and we've even shared our research for safe and reliable alternatives with the rest of the industry.
So we've been participating with the current regulations, that temporary ban is being lifted, and there's some other details that haven't yet been totally defined going forward, but safety is really important to us and I know we'll be compliant with whatever the final regulations turn out to be.
- CFO
Tim, as you know, petroleum based materials are key inputs in many of our products.
We don't -- we do not hedge oil, but the majority of our products we enter into supplier contracts and ocean freight contracts in advance that partially insulate us from increases in oil prices in the near term.
But if increases in oil prices are sustained, it is only a matter of time before price negotiations with their suppliers and freight tailors will be impacted and the increases will be passed on to us, and as I said, we didn't price this year for oil in the 50's or higher.
So we're seeing that impact in our results.
- Analyst
Is there any remaining flexibility, say, in some of the shipments for the fourth quarter for additional pricing or not?
Or would that have to really wait until you show the line for '06, you show the line in the fall and then you would see what type of pricing you get for '06?
- Chairman, CEO
No, Tim, our prices are locked in for this year including in fall and we've begun shipping fall products and the prices are set.
So the earliest we would change our prices is going into next year.
- Analyst
At the fall meetings in New York?
- Chairman, CEO
Well, I wouldn't want to get into specific on what we would do when, but the line is priced for this year.
- Analyst
Okay.
Thank you.
- Chairman, CEO
Thanks, Tim.
Operator
Mr. Eckert, there appears to be no further questions at this time.
I would like to turn the call back over to you, sir.
- Chairman, CEO
Thanks, Mike?
- Treasurer, SVP, External Affairs
Thanks Bob, thanks operator.
I would like to thank everyone for joining us on the call today.
There will be a replay of today's call available beginning at 11:00 eastern time.
The number for the replay is 719-457-O820.
The ID number for confirmation is 4559083.
Thanks very much.
Operator
And this does conclude today's conference call.
At this time you may disconnect.