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Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Korn Ferry third-quarter FY17 conference call.
(Operator Instructions)
As a reminder this conference is being recorded for replay purposes.
We have also made available in the investor relations section of our website at kornferry.com a copy of the financial presentation that we will be reviewing with you today.
Before I turn the call over to your host, Mr. Gary Burnison, let me first read a cautionary statement to investors.
Certain statements made in the call today such as those relating to future performance, plans, goals, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Although the Company believes the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, investors are cautioned to not place undue reliance on such statements.
Actual results in future periods may differ materially from those currently expected or desired because of a number of risks and uncertainties which are beyond the Company's control.
Additional information concerning such risks and uncertainties can be found in the release related to this presentation in the Company's annual report for FY16 and in other periodic reports filed by the Company with the SEC.
Also, some of the comments today may reference non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted fee revenue, constant currency amounts, EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA.
Additional information concerning these measures, including reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, is contained in the financial presentation and earnings release related to this call, both of which are posted in the investor relations section of the company website, www.kornferry.com.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Mr. Burnison.
Please go ahead, Mr. Burnison.
- CEO
Okay, thank you David.
Hello everybody and thank you for joining us.
With me is Bob Rozek and Gregg Kvochak.
Let me talk about the results for the quarter.
They were exactly in line with what we had guided to you back in December.
Fee revenue was about $382 million, which was up 11% year-over-year, that's at constant currency and obviously that was benefited by the Hay Group acquisition that we did a year ago.
Profitability was also very strong with adjusted EBITDA of $55 million, and that was up about 16% from the prior year.
Hay Group had a good quarter with $176 million of revenue and very good profitability.
Our adjusted EBITDA margin in that business was about 17% and remember, this is always a seasonal quarter for us.
Futurestep had another strong performance.
The topline growth was 12% in constant currency and in fact, we had our best quarter ever in terms of new business in Futurestep.
In Hay Group's new business, by the way, trailing three months over a year ago, that is also up about 7%, 8%, 9%, something like that.
Our search business generated $153 million of revenue and that was driven by constant currency growth of about 20% in Europe and 11% in Asia.
We also continued our commitment to you, our shareholders, by returning capital in the form of dividends and stock buybacks.
So far, over the last couple of quarters, we've repurchased about $21 million of stock, which is about 1.6% of our outstanding shares.
If I could just maybe tap Google Earth for a second.
Over the last 18 months there has been a lot of change in our firm.
I think the Company has been transformed from really, a substantially oriented model line business to a global management consulting firm.
Revenue is up 43%, adjusted EBITDA is up 33% and annual run rate EBITDA has increased by at least $60 million.
And you know, our workforce has changed dramatically.
55% of the Company today are millennials, 70% of our colleagues are outside the United States and 61% are female, and finally, our capabilities have been enriched substantially.
So when I rewind the clock to the Hay Group combination, which was just 14 months ago, back then I really looked at the integration as creating a unified whole in really three stages.
What we had to do, what we must do and what we want to do.
And I would say that the results and the transformation over the last 14 months or so that I talked about largely are in the first two phases.
Namely we unified our solutions for scale, we have combined our IP, we are reimagining a new firm and culture.
And we're also pursuing the synergies that we've committed to you, our shareholders.
But now we have to finish the second phase and really begin the third phase.
And what I mean by that, is we've got to move now from a geographic in line of business orientation towards industries and solutions.
Particularly those that drive business outcomes for our clients.
I think that is number one and number two, we have to continue to evolve our new culture for our own organization.
So as I talk about this third phase and I think about the strategic growth initiatives, there are five or so that I wanted to highlight.
Number one is leadership development.
Believe it or not, arguably we are the biggest provider of leadership development training in the world.
About 700 of our colleagues do work in this area every single day.
For us it represents about $160 million in annual revenue, it's a large -- it's a growing market.
And what we're doing today is currently combining our IP from our legacy firms to create offerings that we can deliver at scale, with the focus on doubling the business.
The second growth initiative I would I'd say is rewards and benefits.
It is another large market for us, today it represents about $160 million in revenue, again is about 10% of the firm.
And it is a market where we have permission and established brand to engage, and the opportunities there are significant.
So I'm sure you've seen, we're not only increasing talent, and developing talent in this area, but we're also looking to see how we can wrap the reward and benefit solutions around, say, our recruiting activities.
Third, our products business is about $230 million to $250 million of revenue today.
This business has the potential to really scale, it has to be an enterprise-wide initiative for us.
We need to be focused on how we can bundle and how we can integrate these product offerings with the other things that we do for clients.
And this should be a business where we have to be thinking about 2 times, 3 times, the size that it currently is today.
Fourth is marquee accounts.
Accounts where we have a real strong opportunity to scale.
We are continuing to develop account leaders to ensure that we're bringing the full weight of the firm to clients, garnering a larger share of spend and delivering multi-business line relationships.
And finally is healthcare, today it's about 7%, 8% of the firm.
It is a market that undoubtedly is going to go through rapid change again, and it offers substantial growth for what we offer.
We have continued over the last quarter to make investments into that area, including dedicated hiring of healthcare specialists.
And what were doing right now is taking our IP and solutions and tailoring them specific to healthcare.
That's all based on our IP.
So, good quarter, in line with what we had talked about last December when we gave the guidance and so now, I'm going to turn it over to Bob.
Bob?
- EVP and CFO
Great.
Thanks Gary and good afternoon, everyone.
I'm going to start with a few key highlights.
First, as expected, our fee revenue in the third quarter reflected our normal seasonal pattern.
Globally at actual exchange rates, free revenue in the quarter was in line with our guidance at about $382 million, and that's a year-over-year improvement of 9% on our adjusted fee revenue, and as Gary indicated, when measured at constant currency, it's an improvement of 11%.
Fee revenue growth in the third quarter was strongest for EMEA in Asia-Pac executive search which grew 20% and 11% respectively.
Futurestep also continued to grow in the third quarter with $53.4 million fee revenue, which is up about 12% at constant currency.
Second, our year-over-year earnings to trend also improved.
Even with seasonally slower fee revenue, our consolidated adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter reached $55.3 million and that is an improvement of about $7.5 million or nearly 16% compared to Q3 of FY16.
And finally, in the third quarter we continue to take a balanced approach to allocating capital.
We paid our normal quarterly dividend of about $6 million and continued to repurchase our shares.
Over the last two quarters we have now repurchased approximately 893,000 shares in at an average price of $23.78.
As Gary indicated, it's about 1.6% of our outstanding fully diluted share base.
And right now we have about $128 million remaining on our Board approved share repurchase authorization.
As I look at the new business trends, let me start with executive search.
Globally our monthly new business trends in the third quarter were negatively impacted by both pre-election uncertainty, and then we had the normal year-end holiday seasonality.
As we talked about in our last earnings call prior to the US election we saw a weaker than normal October and that was followed by slow first half of November.
Our new orders strengthened in the second half of November and were, as we expected, seasonally softer in December and then we saw them surge higher in the month of January.
This trend was especially true in North American region, where new orders in November, December combined were down 5% year-over-year, but then we saw in January a nearly 4% growth on a year-over-year basis.
A spike in the number of newly confirmed executive search assignments in January will provide us with a solid backlog as we enter into the fourth quarter.
Similar to executive search, new business in the third quarter for Hay Group was seasonally slower at $175 million, and that is also reflective of a stronger performance period post election.
And then for the month of December and January, on a combined basis, Hay Group's new orders were up 9% year-over-year.
And then finally, Futurestep's new business continued to surge in the third quarter, reaching $104 million, which was an all-time high.
And of this amount, approximately $83 million came from RPO wins and that is on the heels of $74 million in the second quarter of this fiscal year in RPO wins.
At the end of the third quarter, our total cash and marketable securities were $467 million.
And when you exclude amounts reserved for the deferred comp and for accrued bonuses, our investable cash balance at the end of the third quarter was approximately $227 million, and that's up about $146 million year-over-year and up about $72 million compared to the second quarter.
As we ended the third quarter, our outstanding debt balance was about $261 million.
And then finally our adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.53 in the third quarter and that is up $0.01, or 2% compared to third quarter of FY16.
And on a GAAP basis, our fully diluted earnings per share for the quarter were $0.42.
Let me turn it back over to Gregg to review our operating segments in a little bit more detail.
- SVP of IR
Okay, thanks Bob.
Let's start with our executive recruitment segment.
At actual exchange rates, consolidated fee revenue in the third quarter for our executive recruitment segment was $152.8 million, down $1.8 million year over year.
When adjusted to a constant currency basis of measurement, consolidated fee revenue in the third quarter for our executive recruitment segment was up approximately $1.4 million year-over-year and essentially flat sequentially.
Regionally, growth rates in the third quarter were mixed, with strong growth in international markets offsetting softness in North America.
Compared year-over-year at constant currency, North America was down 9%, while Europe was up 20% and the Asia-Pacific region was up 11%.
Fee revenue growth for our global specialty practices was also mixed in the third quarter.
Compared to the third quarter a year ago, growth in our industrial practice up 14% and financial services practice up 7% was offset by slower demand in our life sciences and healthcare technology and consumer goods practices, which were down 5%, 6% and 7% respectively.
The total number of dedicated executive recruitment consultants worldwide at the end of the third quarter was 507, up 15 year-over-year and six sequentially.
Annualized fee revenue production per consultant in the second quarter was $1.21 million.
And the number of new search assignments opened worldwide in the third quarter was 1,453, which was up approximately 11% year-over-year.
Consolidated executive search adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter was $32.6 million, which was down $10.3 million compared to the third quarter of FY16.
This drop in adjusted EBITDA was due both to lower fee revenue in North America and higher compensation expense, which was primarily driven by greater market returns in the quarter on the financial assets backing the firm's deferred compensation plans, most of which affects the North American executive search segment.
The consolidated executive search adjusted EBITDA margin in the third quarter of FY17 was 21.3%, compared to 27.7% in the third quarter FY16.
Now turning to the Hay Group segment, which in the third quarter of FY17 completed its fourth full quarter of integrated operations.
Due primarily to time off during the year-end holidays, fee revenue for the Hay Group segment was seasonally slower in the third quarter at $175.7 million.
As previously mentioned, new business activity for the Hay Group post election in December and January combined improved and was up approximately 9% year-over-year, providing a solid backlog for the fiscal fourth quarter.
Additionally, the profitability of the Hay Group remains strong in the third quarter.
In the third quarter of FY17, the Hay Group achieved $30.1 million of adjusted EBITDA, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 17.1%.
A year-over-year improvement of $7.2 million, with a 150 basis point improvement in margin.
Finally, turning to Futurestep, which continues to be our fastest-growing segment.
In the third quarter Futurestep generated $53.4 million of fee revenue, which measured at constant currency was up 12% year over year.
Despite seasonally slower fee revenue in the quarter and incremental investments needed to support delivery capacity for the recent spike in new RPO awards, Futurestep maintains strong earnings and profitability in the third quarter.
Futurestep's EBITDA in the third quarter was $7.4 million, with a margin of 13.9%.
I'll now turn the call back over to Bob to discuss our outlook for the fourth quarter of FY17.
- EVP and CFO
Thanks Gregg.
As previously discussed, new business activity in the third quarter was seasonally slower, but we exited the quarter strong in January, especially for the North American search segment.
Globally, our new business and executive search for February was flat year-over-year.
And following historical patterns, executive search new business activity in both March and April is expected to be seasonally strong.
For the Hay Group, the fiscal fourth quarter is also typically a seasonally strong quarter, with greater new business awards and more time with clients to deliver the backlog of open assignments.
With regards to Futurestep, as previously discussed, new business trends in the third quarter remain strong and we continue to see a strong pipeline of new opportunities in the fourth quarter.
Assuming worldwide economic conditions, financial markets and foreign-exchange rates remain steady, we expect our consolidated fee revenue in the fourth quarter to range from $398 million to $412 million, and our consolidated adjusted diluted earnings-per-share to range from $0.57 to $0.63.
And finally, after a full year of work, our integration activities related to the Hay Group acquisition are substantially complete.
Except for the co-location of some international offices, three of which are scheduled to be completed during the fourth quarter at a restructuring cost of approximately $6.5 million to $7.5 million.
Also in connection with the last stage of our financial and operational systems conversion, we anticipate spending additional professional fees in the fourth quarter of approximately $1.5 million to $2 million.
And then consistent with prior quarters, included in the integration and acquisition cost are about $3 million of ongoing Hay Group acquisition related retention bonuses.
When you include these costs, we estimate that the FY17 fourth-quarter fully diluted earnings per share measured by US GAAP will likely be in the range of $0.41 to $0.49.
So that concludes our prepared remarks and we would be glad to answer any questions you may have.
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
George Tong, Piper Jaffray.
- Analyst
Hello, thanks for taking my questions.
You had indicated with the Hay Group new business trends over the past three months are up about 7% to 9%.
Is this the level of growth on the near and intermediate term basis you think is sustainable, and can you remind us what your longer-term view on growth for the Hay Group is?
- CEO
There's two aspects to that business.
There is a consulting business and there is a products business.
The products business we would expect to have higher growth in those numbers and the consulting business would be lower growth.
The long-term growth for the combined business, I've had it as an aspirational goal, is 10%.
We haven't done 10%.
But it's certainly is good to see that the level of new business over the last two to three months is up over the prior year.
- Analyst
That's helpful.
Can you elaborate on some of the examples of cross-selling and synergies on the revenue side that you're seeing between Hay Group and the other pieces of the business?
- CEO
We've seen about over 1,000, actually, joint activity between the business lines and they range from life sciences companies to financial services companies.
The great thing about the firm that we're building is there's real organic connectivity in the things that we do.
So, whether it's executing strategy, designing an organizational structure, picking the kind of leaders to lead that business, finding knowledge workers, doing rewards and benefits, it's all lumped together.
So we're doing some cool things in the healthcare area around value-based care and physician alignment.
That is really helping to define healthcare companies define an operating model and governance structures they deal with value-based care.
- EVP and CFO
The other thing George, this is Bob.
I would also say that if you look at the number of individuals who participate in our quarterly referral program where we pay [a spit], before the Hay Group transaction, we were somewhere around 220 partners a quarter.
We're participating in that program and since the Hay Group has come onboard now, we're just north of 300 at this point.
So we've seen a substantial growth in the number of individuals participating in that program.
- Analyst
Got it.
That's helpful.
And then lastly, just turning to the North American executive search business, it's still seeing some pressure on the near-term basis.
Can you elaborate on some of the headwinds that you're seeing?
You called out a couple of verticals, are there any structural issues that you think you might need to overcome or is this more of a cycle element that you think will come to pass?
- CEO
Well there's certainly no structural elements with our business.
We could certainly up financial services business.
We could certainly increase our weighting, that is something structural that we have a choice about, and we should probably do something about that.
The technology component for us too is a little bit smaller than I would like.
So I think those two areas, maybe we need to be more purposeful about.
We are investing, the number of consultants us up pretty substantially.
I'm sure Gregg has given you the numbers for that.
You recall that last fall, there was a lot of uncertainty going into the election and what we saw was a kind of [downalater] in new business in North America.
And, it started mid-October and then there was a downalater.
There was a little bit of a rebound a bit in November, but then December, as you would expect, was down.
So, we are happy to say that we've seen in January, February, that that level has increased from the fall and in fact, it's rebounded to prior-year levels.
So that's very good.
In terms of headwinds, tailwinds, it's good to see that energy is coming back.
That's a pretty good piece of our portfolio.
So we've seen an uptick there and we've also seen an uptick in financial services.
So that would be the kind of macrotrends.
- Analyst
All right, helpful.
Thank you.
Operator
Tim McHugh, William Blair.
- Analyst
Yes, thanks.
Futurestep, I'm sorry if you gave this, but can you talk about the difference between the RPO growth part of that business versus the last -- I don't know if I just missed it or if you gave it already, but how much faster is the RPO piece growing than the markets piece that you call it.
- EVP and CFO
Tim, this is Bob.
The RPO is growing a little bit faster than the search.
One of the things we saw in the quarter was the projects component of search dropped a little bit than what we have been experiencing.
But the RPO is growing upwards of probably 15%, 20%, single search is probably in 10% to 15% range.
- Analyst
Okay.
And the hiring, Gary, is that a sign that you've made the decision strategically, there are some areas you feel you need to be bigger in, like financial services, or do feel better about the economy and the willingness to invest at this point?
Given the cycle view, if you will?
- CEO
I think regardless of whether the economy, we would be investing.
We absolutely have to create an organization that looks to scale, that looks to have impact in the world, that looks to be $1 billion, $2 billion bigger.
We have to have an organization that can grow from within, where we are developing people along the way.
In the meantime, we are also -- we're not only laying the plans and the groundwork for that kind of core mobility in talent development, we have to go to the outside.
And so we have been very aggressive in bringing in talent across the entire business, that can help us broaden the conversation, that can help us elevate the conversation with clients.
That is something we would be doing, really regardless of the economic climate right now, given where we are with our business.
- Analyst
Okay.
And do you have enough room, given margins are, to be as aggressive as you want with that?
Or is that in inhibitor at all, if you wanted to step on the accelerator?
- CEO
Look, we've been stepping on the accelerator.
You can see that we're paying as you go.
We're not going to bring the plane down to 18,000 feet.
So, I don't really -- I don't see that.
Obviously, we're doing this within a band of reason, right, and we'll continue to run that game plan.
- EVP and CFO
I think, Tim, if you look at our guidance for the fourth quarter, in order to get to those numbers, you won't see any significant deterioration in the margins.
- Analyst
Great.
Thank you.
Operator
Tobey Sommer, Suntrust.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Start with executive search, if I could.
What are you hearing from multinationals on the search side?
It sounded, based on your comments on recent trends in North America, that animal spirits are a little more evident.
Thanks.
- CEO
Animal spirits -- (laughter) are more evident.
That's a great line.
Well, look, you've got certainly, with an equity market that's at an all-time high, you have CEO confidence that probably goes hand-in-hand with that.
But, I think there has been more intent, but less action.
So I can't say that the CEO confidence has really translated into something we can put our fingers on.
With multinational companies, it continues to be -- what we've seen for example, in China, is there's a big desire on the part of that economy to go to privately owned and locally-based companies.
I think multinationals are struggling with that.
I think that people are wondering about the vote in France and what that means.
And we still haven't seen, really, anything with regard to Brexit.
And so those are the three or four things that are on CEOs' minds.
- EVP and CFO
And Toby, this is Bob.
I would say if you look at the new business activity in North America search, in the quarter, November was down year-over-year, December was down year-over-year, and January came on back for us, to the point where we ended the quarter flat year-over-year.
So we saw a really strong January, and February is strong for us for as well.
- Analyst
Okay, thank you.
And what kind of -- Gary, you talked about several areas, I think many of them, you talked about doubling, the product business eventually tripling.
Are all of the segments on a gross trajectory today as we speak or are those more long-term comments?
- CEO
No, look, when you really look at our Hay Group business, it's essentially flat.
So that's the reality.
But the other reality is we're only 14 months into this and we had to go through and we've combined 100 offices, we've combined systems and I could go on and on.
We ask a lot of talented people to leave the Company.
So there's a phase of this that's really tough stuff.
But when I speak to 2 times, that's certainly not next quarter, but that kind of opportunity is certainly there.
And that's how we're trying to orient this firm and develop talent and bring in talent and go to market and all that.
So, no, we're not at all on that kind of pace, but that's where we have to be headed.
- Analyst
Okay.
Can I get your thoughts about revenue generating headcount growth?
And you can answer the question however you would like to, whether it's search consultants or across segments.
Just trying to get a sense for how you're managing to your own internal hiring to build towards those aspirational growth metrics.
Thanks.
- CEO
Yes, we are.
We are bringing in consultants in a pretty broad fashion across the three business lines.
We certainly have a greater interest in financial services and technology on the search side, given our footprint.
As you know, our industrial is spectacular, it's 30% of the firm.
In the Hay Group business, we are bringing people in in essentially three to five big areas.
One would be people that can do org design and strategy execution.
That would be number one.
Number two would be people who can do leadership development.
Number three would be people that can do rewards and benefits.
So, those three areas in our Hay Group consulting business are certainly areas of focus for us.
And again, we have to over time, shift the orientation of this Company so that we're not in the emergency room business, but we're in the business outcome business.
So we have to move the focus from geographies and lines of business to solutions in business outcomes, and so we have to bring in people that have that solution capability.
We have to bring in people that have account management kinds of skills.
We have to bring in people that have solution architect.
We have to bring in people that can compete in the boardroom and not just compete in the sense of Futurestep or search, but in the sense of enterprise-wide solutions.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Just a couple of numerical questions if I could.
Bob, should cash flow normalize even further as we get past this fiscal 4Q of 2017, cash flow conversion down to free cash?
And could you did us a sense for the tax rate and CapEx as we look into next year?
- EVP and CFO
Sure.
Let me take the first question on the cash flow.
It will normalize, Toby, as we exit this year.
We've got all of the integration, structuring type activities will essentially be behind us.
We have three more offices to deal with in terms of the co-location.
Those will happen -- two will happen in Q1 next year, one will happen in Q2.
And so that will be it.
But the one will be more of a non-cash charge.
So we would expect our conversion ratio to be somewhere in the 70% to 75% of EBITDA.
The tax rate, right now we're looking at an effective rate for this year of about 28%.
We're starting to see -- as we talked when we first did the Hay Group transaction, bringing so much more of our operations outside of the US where the rates are lower that we would see some downward pressure on our rate, and I think you're seeing that in the rate that we have in place today.
- Analyst
Thank you.
- EVP and CFO
I'm sorry, Gregg remind me of CapEx.
CapEx, I would think that that would normalize down to a number that's in the $21 million to $23 million range.
- Analyst
Thank you very much.
Operator
Mark Marcon, RW.
Baird
- Analyst
Good afternoon, thanks for taking my questions.
Gary, you talked about the strategic initiatives.
I'm wondering, should we anticipate any charges in terms of aligning the business in order to go after the five areas?
And secondly, you went through three distinct areas in terms of where you are recruiting aggressively in terms of org design and strategy, leadership development, rewards and benefits.
Can you just discuss a little bit about the types of people that you're bringing in, the levels of seniority, whether there's any guarantees, how we would think about that in terms of the investment that's still to come?
- CEO
Yes, I would think about the investment exactly as we have operated the business, Mark, over the last several years.
There is nothing that is, oh wow, these guys are committing to things.
That is not -- we are staying within the operating principles and the commitments that we've made to shareholders.
So we're not going outside the operating boundaries.
I think we're being pretty smart.
Those businesses have more leverage than, say, a search business does.
Which is one of the interesting things about getting into these other markets.
So, there are two kinds of people -- let me just step back, Mark.
One thing that is interesting, since you when I first met many years ago, today about 55% of the Company is millennials, which wasn't the case when we met.
So that's changed dramatically and it looks like the workforce looks like the demographic of say a big four, consulting firm look.
So you've got, in terms of the profile of the people it will be two camps.
There will be those that are younger in their career, that you would classically think of, whether it was investment banking or consulting, that are more professionals, that are early stage in their career.
We're bringing those types of people on and as importantly, we are bringing on what would be more senior partner types of profiles that have probably been in business for 20 years.
They probably are coming out of some global consulting firm generally, they probably have advanced degrees.
That would be the profile.
- Analyst
Great.
And it sounds like on the Futurestep side, you've got a lot of new wins.
Can you talk about when those would layer on?
And it sounds like we should see a reacceleration with regards to Futurestep's growth rate, am I accurately interpreting the comment?
- CEO
Well, I would certainly think that -- look, we only guide out a quarter.
So the fourth quarter should definitely be better than the third quarter.
There's no question about that, and that growth rate should look pretty good.
What's happening here is that for some of these, they're big, big massive projects, sometimes companies delay, they don't get their act together in terms of how fast they want to implement things.
The growth rate in that business, excluding say the last quarter or two, that was an 18% to 20% number for like 12 quarters.
I don't think that's reasonable, Mark, to think about, I just think that was pretty special.
But I would think that what you'll see sequentially in the fourth quarter should be much better than what you saw sequentially between the second quarter and third quarter, which actually went down.
- Analyst
Are the wins coming from clients that have not used RPO before or are they basically replacing some incumbents?
- CEO
No, no, no.
I would say it's still primarily new logos and companies that have not done RPO before, Mark.
There's some where they're taking it out to bid, but I think those are the exception.
- Analyst
And just on the numbers, it sounds like we basically just have $6.5 million to $7.5 million left in terms of the offices that are going to be co-located, professional fees of $1 million to $2 million.
And then we just have four more quarters of the additional $3 million of a group compensation.
Is that correct?
- CEO
Yes, that expires in December of 2018.
- Analyst
Great.
Thank you.
- CEO
Okay David, was that it?
Operator
It appears there are no further questions, Mr. Burnison.
- CEO
Okay.
Well listen, I want to thank everybody for joining us.
I am confident that we are establishing a new category for people and organizational advisory and redefining Korn Ferry as the preeminent global leader in that white space.
So, thanks for your time and we will talk to you next time.
Bye-bye.
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