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Moderator
Please stand by.
Welcome to today's Home Depot first quarter earnings conference
call. This call is being recorded. Beginning today's
discussion is Bob Burton, vice president of investor relations
Bob Burton - VP Investor Relations
Good morning. Welcome to the Home
Depot first quarter conference call. The earnings per share
were 36 cents ahead of guidance. With us, Bob Nardell, chief
executive officer, and Carol (unintelligible), vice president and
chief financial officer, together with other Home Depot executives.
Carol will go over the results, and Bob will make comments,
and then we will have questions. The question and answer
session will be available. Questions will be limited to
analysts and investors. This conference is being broadcast
real time at homedepot.com. There will be a two-day
telephone replay available at (719) 457-0820. The confirmation
number is 777100.
Before I turn the call over to Carol, let me remind you, our
discussion will contain forward-looking statements relating to our
expectations. Additional information could cause our actual
results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements.
Additional information concerning these risks and uncertainties
are contained in the companies fillings with the Securities and
Exchange Commission, including the companies annual
including the companies annual report on Form 10 k.
We caution that these statements are (inaudible) as
of the date they are made, and actual results made from the
present expectations or projections may vary.
Here is Carol.
Carol Tome - CFO
In this choppy economic
environment our associates delivered and drove continued
improvements in labor productivity. This morning we are
reporting the highest first quarter return on sales in company
history and the highest first quarter earnings per share
gains. Equally important, Home Depot drove a 50 basis
point improvement in our key value metric. Return on
investment capital - The financial strength of the Home
Depot remains unsurpassed. A record 5.2 billion dollars
in cash. On a net basis we generated 2.7 billion dollars
in cash during the first quarter, driven by significant
improvements in working capital. This is more cash than
we generated during all of 2001. Over the next few minutes
my comments will review the quarter performance in detail
and provide guidance for the second
quarter of fiscal year 2002. First quarter 2002 net earnings
856 million dollars, up from 632 million dollars from fiscal
2001 diluted earnings per share were 9 cents better than
the prior year. Sales for the quarter totaled 14.3 billion
dollars up 17 percent from the prior year driven by new
store openings and 5 percent comp sales. Our strong comp
sales reflects favorable weather as well as merchandising
and paint initiatives. Paint, lumber and, lawn and garden
reflect an early spring season. The weather-related categories,
customers responded to the tightly focused value driven
events that drove sales in flooring and kitchen and bath.
We continue to see strong performance and stores that are
offering special services to the professional customer,
what we call our pro initiative. Through the quarter
we added 234 stores to the pro initiative. We now have
the pro initiative in 769 or 55 percent of our stores.
During the quarter, our pro initiative stores outperformed
core stores in productivity, operating margins and inventory
turnover. We saw an increase in carpet and kitchen installation.
In the first quarter, consistent with accounting principals
we record these upon completion of the job which results
in a sales deferral. This grew by 200 million dollars.
We call this to your attention; as our service business
grows, this will grow. This is reflected as a deferred
revenue liability and will flow into revenue as the projects
are completed. Due to the 14th week of the fourth quarter
of 2001, first quarter benefited from a seasonal time shift
which added 350 million dollars to sales. Based on current
economic indicators, as we told you last year we remain
cautious in our expectations for the strengthening recovery.
Against a 1 percent comp in the second quarter last year,
we expect store sales to be positive from 2 to 4 percent
during the second quarter. During the first quarter we
added 57 new stores and completed the sales of 4 stores
in Argentina. That's 1,386 stores made up of Home Depot
stores and Expo Design Center stores. Others opened
during the quarter, 23 in February, 11 in March and 23
in April. We plan to open 200 stores in 2002, a 15 percent
increase over 1333 stores at the end of fiscal 2001. In
the second quarter of 2002, we plan to open an additional
48 new stores. Including two Expo Design Centers. Store
productivity metrics - Floor store footage increased
151 million. The average store footage was up from
1600 square feet last year.
Customer transactions grew 14 percent
to 284 million for the year. Our average customer ticket
increased 3.6 percent - This is a company record and
reflects gains in large ticket items like flooring, kitchen
and appliances, as well as seasonal power equipment. Our
weighted average weekly store sales were $808,000,
compared to $807,000 last year. We are
pleased with the store productivity.
We are reflecting improved in-store execution. Additionally,
new store productivity continues to improve. Gross margin
for the first quarter was 30.53 percent, 57 basis points
ahead of the prior year and the highest first quarter gross
margin in company history. This margin performance reflects
the benefits of central purchasing in several ways.
We're lowering the cost with online auctions. We are
rationalizing the inventory across the store, optimizing
the product mix, like in lighting and ceiling fans. We
are building alliances and key supplier partners. Finally,
as we said before, the increase in the number of tool rental
centers, continues to provide benefits. At the end of
the first quarter we were up from the 381 at the end of last
year. We currently anticipate that the second quarter
gross margin rate will reflect modest expansion against
the second quarter of 2001. In the first quarter, we
leveraged total expenses for the third consecutive quarter. Selling
and operating expenses decreased 40 basis points to 19.2
percent from last year. The first quarter, first we
saw continued gains as a result of initiatives like service
performance improvements, or Spy. And while we continue
to view payroll as investment and we retain the best
associates, we are using new tools to manage wage rates.
We experienced no wage rate inflation for the quarter.
This was offset by workers compensation and general liability
costs which increased against last year. Pre-opening expenses
were 25 million dollars for the first quarter compared with
27 million, 4 basis points as a percent of sales. Our
pre-opening costs on a per store basis are down 25 percent
as we have taken two weeks out of the pre-opening period.
The year-over-year comparison reflects timing of store
opening. General and administrative expenses were 1.6
percent compared to 1.7 percent last year, a decrease of
10 basis points. This decrease was driven by organizational
realignments, including the centerization of purchase
merchandising.
With the sale of South American organizations and the
consolidation of southeast operations, we remain focused on
expenses. We expect to leverage expenses in the next
quarter. Net interest income was 10 million dollars for
the first quarter against 3 million dollars in the comparable
quarter last year. As a percent of sales, 9.16, up
from 8.44 percent last year. This performance is the first
operating return on sales in company sales, and marks the
third consecutive quarter of expansion. Reflecting our
efforts to optimize our tax position through higher tax
credits and by lowering our effective state income tax rate.
For the remainder of fiscal 2002, we expect the effective
tax rate to be 37.6 percent. Net earnings were 5.99 percent
versus 5.89 ,18 percent. That's 36 cents against 27 cents
in the prior year. Dilution for the quarter were 2.365
billion shares compared to 2.347 billion in the prior year.
Our estimates of weighted earnings per share for fiscal
year 2002 are as follows - Second quarter, 2.376 shares,
third, 2.383, fourth, 2.390 and for the year, 2.376
billion shares. Now moving on to the balance sheet,
as I previously mentioned cash and shorts from investments
totaled 5.2 billion dollars compared to last year, driven
primarily by significant improvements in working capital.
Average inventory $5.4 million, down 13 percent. We are pleased
with this performance, but we focus on improving velocity.
Inventory turnover was 5.6 compared to 5.1 last year.
This is the best first quarter performance since 1994 and
reflects continuing strong performance in year-over-year
turnover improvement. Our days payable outstanding were 51
compared to 39 days in the prior year as we moved our payment
terms towards industry standard. Long-term debt at the
end of first quarter was 1.285 million dollars. Return
on invested capital is the benchmark we use as a company
to measure value creation. Computed on beginning
debt and equity, our return on invested capital 19.2 percent,
versus 18.7 percent last year. The operating performance
improvements we are driving will be reflected in this metric
as we move through the year. Capital expenditures were
$639 million for the quarter. We own 81 percent of our stores.
Our statement for fiscal year 2002, 3.6
million dollars. Based on our guidance given for the second
quarter we are comfortable with that and we'll be glad
to answer your questions on the quarter. But before we do
that, I would like to turn the call to Bob Nardelli.
Bob Nardelli - CEO
Thanks, very
much. It's a strong report and it's a tough act to follow,
as well. I would like to add my comments on this record
setting quarter, also. First and always, I want to thank
you, our loyal, orange-blooded associates who embrace the
new initiatives you have talked about, and we've talked
to the analysts about for the last year or slightly more.
They helped us sell through a conflict-filled economic environment
and I want to thank you our loyal long-term customers and
the new customers who are joining the Home Depot family.
Allow me to highlight some of the record setting accomplishments
for the next 5 minutes. I promise all of you we won't look
back and we'll leave this call today ready to take on the
second quarter with all of the passion and aggressiveness
that Carol has highlighted in this report and what we've
been sharing with you now for over a year. Let's pause
for a moment and think about , we opened 57 stores. That's
the highest first quarter store opening in company history
and certainly is reflective of the momentum we're trying
to gain making sure that our proficiency investments are
gaining full-year benefit by opening more in the first quarter,
first half. We opened a record 17 stores on a single day
on February 7th. We opened our first urban store in Brooklyn
and several of you were complimentary
in your visits. We are very encouraged with
the initial customer traffic. This is proof-positive about
our comments about developing a neighborhood family friendly
store that represents a market-back approach to our mix
and assortment. We're impressed that a significant number
of customers early on were in the neighborhood and walked
to visit our store. We're encouraged the sales per square
foot and the return on capital metrics are strong, strong
to the point we continued to look favorably upon two more
openings this year - One in Staten Island in the third
quarter, and we're excited about entering
downtown Chicago, Lincoln Park. I think these new store
sets, as we've shared previously, give us many more arrows
in our quiver versus a traditional and competitive store
strategy we had been on. Think about the first quarter
gross margins that reached the highest level in company
history and at three percent we delivered the highest first
quarter earnings per share gain as Carol highlighted -
Six percent. We generated the highest return on sales in
company history in spite of an economic environment, um,
downward spiraling economy, conflicted economic metrics.
Again, I couldn't be prouder of our team as they
sold through this environment. Inventory, reached 5.6,
the highest first quarter performance since 1994 and the
50 basis points is the best since 1988. At $50.40 our
average customer ticket reached record levels. This is
attributed to our associates that have embraced, Spy.
The comments that Carol made about the pro and
cross-merchandising efforts going on in our stores:
We are starting to see traction of the
initiatives we talked about last year. And let's recognize
that the stores have not all comped, if you will,
relative to these initiatives. We're seeing the early
stages of Spy - Improved shopability, improved customer
greets, stores more navigable, easier to access merchandise,
favorable feedback from customers and associates. I
just completed a 14-day tour visiting every division and
holding town-hall meetings with store associates. I talked
to over 3500 of our associates in that period of time, and
I will tell you, the candor, the entrepreneurial spirit,
everything is alive and well as we go through transition
between Bernie and I and the transformation in our business
plan. Our cash reached a record 5.2 billion, and at times
like this, what could be more important than cash and the
debt to equity ratio Carol talked about - and an improving return
on invested capital. We've talked about this together
and separately in our analyst meetings. We continue to
be very encouraged that our initiatives are delivering improved
performance in shopability, efficiency and productivity.
Early spring brought customers in for paint, lumber, lawn
and garden products. We're excited relative to some of
the new exclusive products unique to our stores further
emphasizing the Home Depot as the store of destination
in these neighborhoods. We also saw customers respond
to great values, unique values in flooring, kitchen, and
bath throughout the entire quarter. Carol touched on the
centralization of the purchasing. We talk about Spy for
merchandising, really bringing the task here to Atlanta
and allowing a hybrid organization that allows for focus
on sales and service of merchandising in each of our store,
districts, regions and divisions. We'll continue to rationalize
assortments as well as our Pro and Spy initiatives, making
sure we're maximizing sales per square
foot to really be able to dial in the appropriate mix for
the neighborhood and optimization of our assets deployed.
We're reaching out to customers in other ways and we're
trying to change the landscape of our business. We're
expanding our appliance program by ruling out other areas.
JERRY EDWARDSs and Larry Mercer are working to make sure that
the 1500 to 2000 square feet in new appliance set with
over 150 SKUs really improves the shopability and makes
sure we're continuing to drive the female friendly aspect
of our store. The new appliance layout will be in all
stores and we're - all the new stores we open, plus retrofitted
into as many as 200 for a total of 400 by end of this year. And our
Design Center Initiative - It's open, quiet, self-contained. It's
distinct features will add to the
overall atransactiveness emphasizing that
we're a destination store for our customers. We are retrofitting
225 stores for the design place initiative this year bringing
the total to 510 stores currently. And by year-end we'll
expect to reach over 900 stores with this program. You
can see many similarities to our pro initiative that we're
now applying to our appliance and our design place initiative.
Again, we have a champion, we have commonality of roll-
out and points of responsibility in each division to embrace
this to make sure we're focused on speed and efficiency.
We've opened our fourth Home Depot supply store in Mesquite
Texas and Milpitas, California. These stores give us an
entry to the largest volume purchasers of large contracts
being currently supplied by supply houses. Our 5th store
is planned for Denver. During the quarter, we enhanced
our presence in the 12.5 billion dollar Mexican home improvement
market with a tremendous response, and we've announced
the plans to acquire Gal Norte (phonetic) which will conclude this
quarter. This is bringing the stores to loyal customers
that have been shopping us on the border for a number of
years. We're adding two additional stores that are under
construction. We're focused on organic and inorganic growth
in this opportunity. In the area of the logistics and
supply chain management. Our suppliers are over 300 in
transportation and logistics who joined us in the community
for a ka-boom build, and then also sharing with them our vision
and the mutual partnering that will be required for us to
continue to be preeminent in the area of logistics supply
and low-cost operations. We're adding three cross dot
transit facilities. Orlando, Atlanta and Baltimore.
Total today is six with four more expected by
the end of the year. We continue to see efficiency generated
in the supply chain as a result of cross dot capacity ramp-up
I hope you agree that this continuing performance
is a credit to the leadership team, and as Carol mentioned
at our seasonal peek, 290,000 associates who took on
a downward spiraling economy last year, but embraced a whole
host of new initiatives is starting to gain traction in
the financial reporting today. It's paying dividend compensation.
We're excited for the positioning for the balance
of the year. It's my belief that most companies would
have buckled just from the economic pressure alone without
embracing the significant number of challenges that we thought
were critical for repositioning, enhancing our business -
Enhance, extend and expand. Making sure that we continue
to mirror-image a changing economy and landscape, recognizing
the demographic shifts and our consumers'
buying preferences. You've asked me
about the leadership team and about some of the changes
that have gone on. As we've gone through transition and now
transformation, the first quarter we saw great additions
to the management team. We will preserve the Home Depot
culture and address business perspective and expertise.
JERRY EDWARDSs who had over 40 years in industry
and 10 years with Home Depot was named executive
vice-president of merchandising. He is the engine in
gross margin merchandising and the overall assortment.
I would like to reemphasize to be able to have captured Bob
Burton, he has a strong background in high volume transactions.
He was instrumental in the beginning of saber technology.
Bob has been working feverishly with us to make sure our
information systems are leading edge in providing the kind
of gain changing projects necessary for merchandising,
human resources, overall project management. I would like
to reemphasize the addition of Frank Blake, our new EVP of
business and corporate operations. He was the deputy secretary
of (inaudible). He brings broad business experiences, business
law and politics. We're excited to have Frank on the team.
Millard has joined JERRY EDWARDSs as the senior
vice-president of merchandising. Excuse me. He was
the CEO of Payless, and had a long stint with Wal-Mart
in international operations. Jim Stoddart was named president
of Home Depot supply, a new emerging piece of our business
that will take advantage of the 19 billion dollars of equity.
I'm excited about the team, the new additions, the history
that we have on this leadership team. Just to give you
a perspective on that
let me tell you, in terms of direct respects, they are
over 160 years of Home Depot experience, alone. 160 years
of Home Depot experience. Add to that industry experience
and we're well over 225 to 250 years. That says the average
length of service of my direct reports within Home Depot
is 8 years and 1 month. That's almost 30 percent of the
life of this company - this very new company. So I just
want to, again, reinforce that we have a tremendous bench;
we have tremendous regard for the culture and the history,
but clearly we're transforming for the future. We have
not changed our cautious outlook for the economy in the
home improvement industry which we shared in November.
Carol and I went through a very strong econometric model
that highlighted many of the things we're experiencing today
which is why Carol and I and the rest of the team remain
cautious. Our outlook back then and continues today was
for a flat home improvement growth this year, followed
by very modest 3 percent growth in each of the extending
years for '0 2 and '03. The model that we did, results
of our store process, again, continues to indicate that recovery
would be modest this year. And I think that's reflected
in the conflicted economic indicators that we're seeing
today. We saw where the secretary of labor announced
unemployment reaching 6 percent and looking to
6 and-a-half percent by mid summer. The April housing
starts dropped to the lowest level since October, 5.4 to
a rate of 5.6 million units. However sales first quarter
annual rate of 5.78 million, is at an historic high. Home ownership
climbs as we see an increase in family formation. Home
affordability remains unchanged and certainly bodes well
for us. Mortgage refinancings are picking up, although
uncertain whether they will support ongoing home improvement
spending. Financial targets, in a continuing choppy economic
environment, you can expect Home Depot to stay on strategy.
We did not go off strategy one dollar as we told you
we would open 200 stores; we hired 40 thousand new associates;
and we would invest 3 billion dollars. We're staying right
on target with this year's strategy. We expect to see
topline benefits from our initiatives like pro and at-home
services and merchandising, and Spy, and certainly appliances
and the decor. We're maintaining very strong earnings
leverage as we deliver on productivity and efficiency investments
throughout the year. We continue to be comfortable in
our earnings guidance as Carol mentioned for 47 openings for
the second quarter. I hope you feel a sense of confidence
as we transitioned through the prior year and now clearly
are on track as a result of our store initiatives, again
strategic, operating and resource deployment. At this
point, I would like to turn it back over to Bob Burton
and we'll be ready to take questions you might have.
Bob Burton - VP Investor Relations
We're ready for questions.
Moderator
Signal us by pressing the star key
and the 1 on the keypad. We will take the questions as
time permits. We have Matthew with Goldman, Sachs and Co.
k you. Good morning. Two questions:
if I may, if you could give us a sense
as to how the tone of business might have evolved through
the quarter and how that might influence your comp guidance
for the second quarter.
And just to state the second questions - Your cash
balance has risen to astounding levels and
my sense is that you're actively thinking about
that, and I'm asking what your thought process is about
what you want to do with the cash?
Bob Nardelli - CEO
Those are two
good questions. I highlighted that basically our comp
forecast or guidance for the second quarter was
somewhere around two to four percent. And again, Matt,
I think while we're seeing conflicted economic metric,
and we're seeing, you know, certainly their ability across
the country. I mean, one of the wonderful advantages we
have is our geographic reach, and one of the disadvantages
is the seasonability and the weather. We aren't seeing
much difference in what you've heard other retailers
reporting. Not to make this a Weather Channel report, but
we're still waiting for spring up in the northeast. I'm
certainly tickled to death to be living in Atlanta versus
upstate New York that had snow the other day, putting a damper
on the seasonality. We're comfortable with the guidance
that Carol highlighted for the quarter, up two to four percent.
If you think about the second question on cash, it's a credit
to the team here who have embraced, in particular, a tough
economic environment, the importance of cash. We read -
we hear a lot now as cash being one of the key metrics
to really validate the health of a company. Because it really
is, um, reflective of what he coming in. As I've said
before, we are and have been and will continue to look at
opportunistic acquisitions. We think there's a lot of opportunity
out there. Frank Blake and the leadership team will be
working closely together. Total homes acquisition in new
Mexico are proof positive on how we will redeploy the
cash; cash that will give us geographic persons, bring
us into markets for new vendor and merchandising sources
and the logistics and the adjacencies that it brings us
along with the close relationship of the leadership team.
We're excited about it. And I think there will be other
opportunities resulting in acquisitions.
Carol Tome - CFO
We will get a return on
capital of 19.2 percent.
Analyst
Fair enough. Thank you.
Moderator
Moving now to take our next question
from Maureen (inaudible) at State Street Research. Maureen?
Analyst
I was wondering if we could
talk about the increase in the tickets, which is up. How
much of that is driven by the pro business and what's happening
with the average retail customer? And what if any correlation
does this have to the shift of more projects in the mix?
As you mentioned, there's deferral in that, as well.
Bob Nardelli - CEO
I would like
to give a few comments and I'll turn it over to Carol for
the specifics. As we announced a year ago, and we looked
at the demographic shifts, we saw two things that really
drove our strategic initiatives - At-home services to
make sure that when loyal customers were moving from the
do-it-yourself to do-it-for-me, we could extend the product
from in the box to out of the box; and in that shift, some
would go to repair, remodel and contractors. So we needed
the duality of at-home services and pro. We asked Tom
Taylor who was running one of our divisions to come in and
he's reflective of how we're running it today, he's putting
highly regarded champions into position. You heard the
number of stores, over 500 last year and 900 this year
with pro set. We're seeing seasoned associates on the
desk. Our pros are telling us they like the stability
of having licensed plumbers, general contractors, licensed
electricians. We're seeing cross merchandising, and the
professional shopping the entire store. So we think this
initiative is really providing a tremendous base for improving
our average ticket. Carol, you commented earlier.
Carol Tome - CFO
When we look at the pro initiative,
the average ticket is higher than the core DIY stores.
The real driver between the 3.6 percent increase we posted
was an increase in large ticket items, flooring, kitchen
and appliances, and seasonal power equipment. And
the new Toro line. Jerry?
We have had a
successful season and the new Toro line, exclusive
line to us, in the home improvement industry has been remarkably
successful in the mid range price points. This has helped
our outdoor power equipment sales.
Bob Nardelli - CEO
The other thing -
Larry Mercer, I would like to have him comment - who is
the father of Spy and who has really, not only driven this
thing from a launch, but also the fact that we now have metrics
in place that are monitoring the actual Spy implementation,
to make sure we're getting the traction.
We're really seeing in the
first quarter of this year a real productivity shift in
terms of the staffing on the floor and it's part of the
Spy platform, and even though we haven't comped it yet in
all stores across the country, we're seeing a
lift in terms of our average ticket and better staffing
on the floor. As Bob mentioned, we have a very rigid 30-day
measurement of every store in the Home Depot and we're
able to look at the opportunity of customer demand versus
actual staffing. It's been a challenge that Home Depot
has been continually improving on. And we're pleased with
what we're seeing off of the two-year build up of Spy
Analyst
That's great. Thank you.
Moderator
Moving on, we'll take a question from
Dan Weaver, at Deca Bank (phonetic).
Analyst
My question is regarding the
same store sales guidance. If you think about the, um,
the two-year comp trend, um, you're coming off of a 2 percent
increase in the first quarter and advertising at 3 to 4 percent
outlook. And at the same time you are
expressing cautious views.
Carol Tome - CFO
Based on the economic drivers Bob set
forth for you. And based on the current stores. We're looking
at the initiatives, we have to drive same store sales. We're
comfortable with the 2 to 4 percent guidance we've given
you.
Analyst
When you have a 10 k
discussing cannibalization - and I would estimate diluted
the same store sales by four percentage points from last
year. Based on the real estate strategies in place, would
that be less or equal to a year-ago trends
Carol Tome - CFO
That's the ongoing rate of cannibalization.
We don't comment on that, because we deliberately cannibalize.
Analyst
I was thinking if the cannibalization
was less it might build more in-store sales.
Bob Nardelli - CEO
Let me comment.
You're on the fringe of an important area for us.
And here's two responses. No. 1, we have changed the
format of our store relative to size and location. Let
me comment on two things we're doing. You know that we
had an additional 120 thousand square foot store and that's
the culture and heritage of the store that got us where
we are. In going forward we had to re-examine that business
model and we have to the point we have the 120 thousand
square foot box, 90, 95,000 square foot, and a 60 to 65,000.
square feet. We've added an arrow to our quiver. As
we look at the markets, we're putting in the right size
and assortment to maximize the return on that investment.
Carol mentioned new store productivity and inventory.
This is not a business, Dan, and you know that, this is
not one size fits all. There are places for consistency
or uniformity, compliant entrepreneurial. There's also the
entrepreneurial spirit; that's alive and well. Geographically,
we're making sure that when we reach a point when the store's
120, 125 million dollar stores - can we really take care
of the customer? What we'll do is put a store in an adjacent
store to better serve the customer base. A
portion will peel away from the existing store, but we
want to improve accessibility and shopability. We're
going to locations that represent net new. And when we
sit in the monthly real estate meeting, we're exploring
on a geographic basis, not only the need to better serve
a customer where we have, you know, where we're being, um,
stressed at a high volume, but we're also looking for net
new. And this urban concept allows us to reach customers
previously we haven't gotten to. We're excited about it.
So I think while you're point about cannibalization
is correct, our goal would be to stabilize and work through
it to a lesser degree as we go forward.
Analyst
Thanks a lot.
Moderator
Up next, we'll take a question from
Raymond James, Bud Bugash (phonetic).
Analyst
Good morning. A question
on the margin issue. The modest improvement in gross margin.
Could you quantify where the shifts in margins are,
and did much of that come from increased reliance
of imports as acquisitions?
Carol Tome - CFO
As we talked about with regards to our
centralized purchasing groups, going forward, we are
projecting modest gross margin expansion. As we continue
to look at ways to increase customer value, today
our import penetration is 6.2 percent which is the same
as the at the end of 2001. We hope to increase that penetration
over the next several years, but it is something that takes
time to develop those vendor supplier relationships to ensure
we're delivering the best quality and best product
offerings.
Analyst
What was that at the
end of the first quarter of 2001?
Carol Tome - CFO
5.2 percent.
Analyst
It's 100 basis points from
this just past - up 57 is more than just
modest?
Carol Tome - CFO
57 is more than modest in my estimation.
Analyst
Two more. Can you give
us a number on accounts payable?
Carol Tome - CFO
As a percent of accounts payable?
Analyst
You gave us 51 days. I
just wanted to know if you would give us the actual number?
Bob Burton - VP Investor Relations
Bob Burton here.
I'll call and give you the number.
Moderator
Peter Caruso.
Analyst
What happens in this
industry is you get comparisons with the major competitors
in the industry, that being Lowes. And you know, when you
look back over history, you have outcomped each other and
sometimes you're in line. I'm not making a big deal with
the fact that Lowes is outcomping Home Depot right now. I think
there is a merit where they have expanded the classes of
trade. And they've taken up the average ticket. Can
you and Jerry address your merchandise content within your
store, on the consumer side - not the pro side - how you
may try to expand classes of trade, and whether you see
a merit in taking up the average price point in order to
have a better class of goods in some categories within your
store?
Bob Nardelli - CEO
I think those
are fair questions. And we're doing a number of things
within our store. I want to, number one - I'm
not sure if this was your question or not, but you know
gross margin from our standpoint is going to be earned
gross margin. We don't see a lot of pricing out there
as a way of enhancing gross margin. Quite honestly in
our tradition of everyday low prices we think bringing
value to the customer is critically important. Point one and
two. That's point one and two. I think your other question
goes to the point of mix. And what are the opportunities
to enhance our mix to help drive, um, the profitability
of our stores. I think Jerry can talk about some of the
things we've seen in those categories. In those categories,
I think lawn and garden represent - I'll
let Jerry comment.
Jerry Edwards - Executive VP Merchandising
As an oversight, I think lawn and
garden, the merchant, and the whole team have positioned
us far better than we've ever been positioned, whether
you look at power, power equipment. If you think about
the way we've organized now, centrally, to get some of the
large buys, but keeping the hybrid of lawn and garden.
For the local nurseries. I think we have more color,
more vitality. More freshness than we've had in a long
time. If you look across the store in flooring and some
of the values Jerry and his team have been able to bring,
it's evidence if you walk the store, but our customer reaction,
certainly on the hard flooring, has been phenomenal. And
of course our side, we've been able to gain tremendous leverage
for some of the best hard flooring
in the industry. You want to comment? We are -
we are rolling out a proprietary traffic master. The designs
and colors are all unique to Home Depot. And they offer
tremendous value as highly competitive price points. This
will be a winner as we roll this out in the third and fourth
quarter. We have greatly expanded our lighting and ceiling
fans. And in Hampton Bay, the largest ceiling fan, we have
7 energy star rated ceiling fans. Nobody else has this.
So we're showing tremendous growth in this category this year.
We're also rolling out an expanded lamp program, 150 new
SKUs' of portable lighting that's beginning to show very
positive results for us. And power tools are - Reoby (phonetic)
power tool line is showing a lot of growth for us - which
is exclusive to us. And we mentioned that Toro and Honda
are both proprietary and are showing us good growth this
year. Our affiliation, with YOW, allows us to provide next-day
delivery at a cost of only $7.50. This will enable us to
scale back existing inventory and greatly improve our capability
of providing much higher price points of faucets to our
customers
Analyst
When Lowes do come into
a Home Depot market, same store sales will decline about
10 percent in the first year and then get back to normal
- breaking even in the second year, and get back to normal
in the third year. Can you give us an update on that metric?
Bob Nardelli - CEO
Geez, Peter,
I can't. I'm not familiar with what Arthur was talking
about there. What I have seen is both sides of that
equation. We've seen, you know, our nearest competitor
put up a store right across the street with no impact,
quite honestly. Obviously what we've done is, make sure
that that store is better prepared than ever. We have
seen some stores that have lost some sales - just the novelty
effect of a new store in the neighborhood - and we'll come
back again. I can't comment on the 10 percent, number.
Carol Tome - CFO
I will tell you, Peter, they recently went to
look at the markets where we're competing against Lowes - Dallas
Seattle, et cetera, and I was pleased with
what I saw.
Moderator
I think we have time for one more
question. Wayne Hood at Prudential.
Analyst
I was - you made a comment
about improved labor productivity. And that had a positive
impact on the sale and in store sales. I'm wondering,
what's systemic in that that's preventing you from getting
back to those historical levels? Workers
compensation or other things?
Carol Tome - CFO
Several things go into that equation.
Things like increased depreciation. If you think about the number
of stores we now own versus the number of stores that we
owned in the 1998, 1999 time frame. We have higher property
tax expense, we have higher utility expenses.
There are a number of factors that suggest we
can't get back to those levels quickly, but we're driving
productivity and a wonderful experience for our customers
so we drive that top line
Bob Nardelli - CEO
It's almost redundant,
but what we're seeing on the measurements, in the second
year of Spy, it would indicate a much higher degree of customer
demand in the aisles of the store. What we can control
on a day-to-day basis, we are pleased.
Analyst
Retraction, managing the
improved profitability, what do you see in the first quarter
in comp store sales trends?
Bob Nardelli - CEO
Let me comment,
Wayne. I know that from the standpoint of previous numbers
your term, retraction, but, again, we're talking about doubling
over three years, the number of stores that we have. Going
from the 40, 44, up to 80 stores. And Carol commented that
the number of stores that we opened in the first quarter and
we have a few more to go yet this year. I think we've
gone through a transformation with Expo. And again, as you
know, we have taken what was a separate merchandising
organization, and blended it in with Jerry to maximize our buying
leverage, so we're buying on a host basis, but
have maintained the individuality and the merchant that
is unique to Expo. We have re-aligned our labor productivity
model and are working closely with Jerry and his team. We
have taken a different approach to the roll-out of Expo.
It was mirror imaging of putting in a store and get in-fill.
We're now looking for geographic reach versus density.
And we're starting to see the benefits of that now, Wayne,
this year. Now while we changed the strategy, we had
commitments for real estate we fulfilled, but we're now starting
to see that we also, as you know, have broadened
the band of our served market. So by doing that, we doubled
the population, the potential targeted population. We're
still tuning this thing up and we're still on track as we
shared with you in November in the rest of the analyst
meeting, the rest of you that were in the analyst meeting.
We're not coming off strategy. We're challenging
ourselves. It's a unique niche that allows a solution
for that particular customer segment
Analyst
Did they have improved
profitability in the first quarter?
Bob Nardelli - CEO
We don't break
that out Wayne.
Analyst
You can.
Carol Tome - CFO
But we don't. (laughter)
Bob Nardelli - CEO
We know but we
don't share that.
Analyst
Thank you.
Moderator
That concludes the question and answer
session. Mr. Burton, I'll turn things back to you.
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