達美樂 (DPZ) 2016 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the third-quarter 2016 earnings release call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • It is now my pleasure to hand our program over to Tim McIntyre, Executive Vice President of Communications, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

  • Tim McIntyre - EVP, Communications, IR & Legislative Affairs

  • Thank you, Kristin, and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining our third-quarter 2016 earnings call. I've enjoyed the opportunity to meet some of you in the past few months and I am looking forward to seeing many of you at our Annual Investor Day in January.

  • As you know, this call is primarily for our investor audience. So I kindly ask that all members of the media and others be in listen-only mode. I also refer you to our Safe Harbor statement that is in both this morning's press release and 10-Q in the event that any forward-looking statements are made today.

  • Our plan for this morning includes prepared comments from our Chief Financial Officer Jeff Lawrence and our Chief Executive Officer Patrick Doyle followed by your questions. And with that I will turn it over to Jeff.

  • Jeff Lawrence - EVP & CFO

  • Thanks, Tim, and good morning everyone. In the third quarter we continued to deliver tremendous same-store sales in both our domestic and international businesses as well as strong bottom-line results.

  • US comps grew by 13% and international comps grew by 6.6%. We are thrilled with these results, particularly when you consider that Q3 same-store sales a year ago in our domestic and international businesses were up 10.5% and 7.7% respectively. We have now had 22 straight quarters of positive US comps and 91 consecutive quarters of positive international comps.

  • We also continued to increase our store count at an impressive rate and have now opened more than 1,100 net new stores over the trailing 12 months. These factors all contributed to our diluted EPS growing 43% over the prior-year quarter.

  • With that let's take a closer look at the financial results for Q3. Global retail sales which are the total retail sales at franchise and company-owned stores worldwide grew 14.9% in the quarter. When we exclude the adverse impact of foreign currency global retail sales grew by 17.2%.

  • The drivers of this retail sales growth included strong domestic same-store sales, which as I just mentioned grew by 13% in the quarter. Broken down, our US franchise business was up 12.9% while our company-owned stores were up 13.8%.

  • Both of these comp increases were driven by order count or traffic growth as consumers continued to respond positively to the overall brand experience we offer them. Our Piece of the Pie loyalty program continues to contribute significantly to our traffic gains while overall ticket was relatively flat during the quarter.

  • Moving to the unit count front, we are very pleased to report that we opened 28 net domestic stores in the third quarter consisting of 36 store openings and eight closures. Our international division had another great quarter as same-store sales grew by 6.6% and also added 288 net new stores during Q3, comprised of 300 store openings and 12 closures. Our international growth continues to be strong and diversified across markets and we continued to benefit from an increased number of store conversions in select international markets.

  • Turning to revenues, total revenues for the third quarter were up $82 million or 16.9% from the prior year. This increase was primarily a result of three factors: first, higher supply chain center food volumes driven by strong US comps and store growth; second, higher domestic same-store sales and store count growth resulted in increased royalties from our franchise stores and higher revenues at our company-owned stores; and finally, higher international royalties again from increased same-store sales and store count growth which were partially offset by the negative impact of foreign currency exchange rates.

  • Currency exchange rates negatively impacted international royalty revenue this quarter by $1.5 million versus the prior-year quarter due to the dollar strengthening against certain currencies, primarily the British pound. For the full fiscal year we now estimate that foreign currency could have a $7 million to $9 million negative year-over-year impact on royalty revenues. As you know, there are many uncontrollable factors that drive the underlying exchange rates which makes this a harder part of our business to predict.

  • Moving on to operating margins, as a percentage of revenues consolidated operating margin for the quarter increased to 30.7% from 29.3% in the prior-year quarter. This increase was driven by positive same-store sales, higher supply chain volumes and lower insurance expenses. As a reminder, we recorded a large insurance charge in Q3 2015 which hurt operating margins last year.

  • The operating margin in our corporate stores increased to 23.5% from 19%, driven primarily by lower insurance expenses as I just mentioned. To a lesser extent, increased sales and lower occupancy costs benefited the company-owned stores' operating margin while higher transaction-related expenses and food cost partially offset these increases. The supply chain operating margin increased to 11.1% from 10.2%. The primary driver of this increase was also lower insurance expenses.

  • Aside from insurance, higher volumes benefited the supply chain operating margin. Commodity costs were relatively flat this quarter and did not have a material impact on the operating margin. We had previously estimated that the commodities we used domestically would be flat to up 2% in 2016 from 2015 levels, and we now expect commodities to be relatively flat for the full-year 2016.

  • Let's now shift to G&A. G&A increased by $11.6 million in the third quarter versus the prior-year quarter due primarily to three factors.

  • First, our planned investments in technology, primarily in e-commerce and other technological initiatives and the teams that support them. Please note that these investments are partially offset by fees recorded as revenues that we receive for digital transactions from our domestic franchisees and international franchisees.

  • Second, our strong performance led to higher performance-based compensation expense. And, third, our continued planned investment to support the strong growth of our international business.

  • Based on our positive performance and our outlook for the rest of the year we continue to estimate that our G&A will be in the range of $305 million to $310 million for the full fiscal year. Keep in mind, too, that our G&A expense for the year can vary up or down by, among other things, our performance versus our plan as that affects variable performance-based compensation expense.

  • Moving down the income statement, interest expense increased by $5.2 million in the third quarter, primarily a result of increased net debt from our 2015 recapitalization. Our weighted average borrowing rate was 4.6% during the quarter, down 70 basis points from the prior year quarter.

  • Our reported effective tax rate was 37.7% for the quarter. We expect that 37% to 38% will be our effective tax rate for the full year.

  • When you add it all up, our third-quarter net income was up $9.4 million or nearly 25%. Our third-quarter diluted EPS was $0.96 versus $0.67 last year, which was a 43% increase.

  • Here is how that $0.29 increase breaks down. Lower diluted share counts, primarily a result of the accelerated share repurchase program completed in Q1 and our additional share repurchases in the second and third quitters, benefited us by $0.12. Our higher interest expense, primarily as a result of our higher debt balance, negatively impacted us by $0.06.

  • Foreign currency exchange rates negatively impacted us by $0.02. And, most importantly, our improved operating results benefited us by $0.25 which does include a $0.06 year-over-year benefit from the Q3 2015 casualty insurance charge.

  • Now turning to our use of cash, during the third quarter we repurchased and retired approximately 412,000 shares for $59.7 million or an average purchase price of approximately $145 per share. During the third quarter we also returned $18.4 million to our shareholders in the form of our quarterly dividend and made $9.6 million of required principal payments on our long-term debt.

  • Over the trailing 12 months we have returned more than $950 million to our shareholders in the form of share repurchases and dividends. As always, we will continue to evaluate the most effective and efficient capital structure for our business as well as the best ways to deploy our excess cash to the benefit of our shareholders.

  • Overall, our tremendous momentum continued and we are thrilled with the results this quarter. We will remain laser focused on driving the brand forward and providing great value to our shareholders.

  • Thank you for joining the call today. And now I will turn it over to Patrick.

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Thanks, Jeff. Good morning everyone.

  • Those who joined us for our Investor Day last January heard me talk about our fundamentals, our steady strategy and momentum within the metaphor of 36 Blast, a basic off-tackle football play. The point was a simple one: it's not a flashy play, but when executed properly with players fully aware of their roles and responsibilities it becomes nearly impossible to stop.

  • Instead of short-term benefit or trick plays we went to work years ago to make sure we established our identity, strengthened our foundation and perfected our fundamentals. If the third quarter is any indication, running this play is continuing to work very well and most importantly greatly benefit our customers.

  • As I think about the quarter I continue to be proud of our approach to building success. It would have been easy to shift or overthink our strategy and perhaps question our faithful emphasis on long-term fundamentals.

  • But pivoting to a short-term mentality never crossed our minds. Reason being, I have never felt stronger about the momentum of our brand and business, the performance of our outstanding group of franchisees across the globe, our unmatched, relentless, meaningful innovation and a team that has never been more energized and aligned.

  • Our domestic business, driven by our US franchisees and corporate store operators, continues to reach new heights with outstanding sales results. Our international business did what it does best by putting another highly impressive quarter of store growth on the scoreboard while notching its 91st consecutive quarter of positive same-store sales growth. And to add yet another milestone to the quarter, we surpassed the 13,000th store milestone and held a celebration at the Seattle-based location in early August.

  • The business model continued to demonstrate tremendous strength, delivering once again with solid flow through to our bottom line. A big part of this is continued meaningful, responsible investments in the business. And when coupled with an innovative customer experience, terrific food and consistent, reliable value we are left with a foundation of fundamentals that are as dependable as ever across the globe each and every day.

  • Our domestic performance was phenomenal in the third quarter. Frankly, I'm not quite sure how else to put it. Our 22nd consecutive quarter of positive same-store sales also marked plus 31% on a three-year basis, a figure that demonstrates our commitment to facing the challenge of sustaining success head on.

  • Few have done this better than our US franchisees and corporate team members. And I am very proud of the work they have done to continue to put their customers first.

  • We opened 28 net domestic stores during the quarter. And with the tailwinds of record-setting unit economics in 2015, excitement around our Pizza Theater reimage and unparalleled brand momentum I am very pleased to see this continuing to track in the right direction.

  • We added a brand-new product line to the menu, introducing our new salads with a full national launch campaign which began in mid-August. I actually think the current campaign puts it best: this is something that may help the veto vote and offer additional choice on pizza night. Also it's a terrific addition to the $5.99 mix-and-match menu offering three choices, classic garden, chicken Caesar and chicken apple pecan, and remaining consistent with our approach to value.

  • The digital loyalty program continued to perform very well. It has proven to be a strong case study, demonstrating the importance of consumer insights, simplicity and implementing the program that through its focus on order counts is consistent with our overall strategy. It's fair to say we are very pleased with where the program stands after a full year in existence, providing yet another great boost to the momentum created by our domestic leadership, corporate teams and operators and, of course, an efficient, determined US franchisees base that is second to none.

  • Staying on the topic of digital, we launched yet another ordering platform to the expanding AnyWare suite with ordering via Facebook Messenger available beginning last month. Much the same as our partnerships with Apple and Amazon, to name a couple, we seek to partner with leaders within their space. And Facebook clearly remains the largest social network in the US.

  • Between that and an easy order platform that is simple to execute, featuring a box that is actually quite fun, we are very excited to be the first pizza Company to deliver this technology to our digital customers and fans.

  • Our worldwide digital participation keeps ramping up. We continue to increase participation in our global online ordering platform and now have nearly 70% of stores outside the US using Domino's PULSE, our proprietary point-of-sale business.

  • We continue to take advantage of the master franchisee model by sharing digital best practices and remain committed to technology growth as a true worldwide initiative for the business. I continue to be extremely encouraged by our relentless approach to innovation and our unquestioned lead within a competitive technology space.

  • And speaking of competitive spaces, our international business once again came through with tremendous store growth during the quarter with 288 net openings topped off with very solid sales performance. Two of our four public master franchisees announced double-digit same-store sales increases in their most recent quarters. And we hit a few store milestones including the opening of our 2,000th store in Europe with a celebration in Hamburg, Germany last month.

  • We also reached 600 stores in Australia, 100 stores in New Zealand and 200 stores in Saudi Arabia during the quarter. Our current conversions are on track in South Africa, France and particularly Germany which is ahead of schedule. As we have noted, it will take some time to see direct revenue impact from these markets, but we have green lights related to the progress, timelines and potential of each market to sooner than later find itself in a strong position to compete.

  • We've come to expect this type of performance from the best international modeling QSR. And I commend our master franchisees worldwide for once again getting it done.

  • In summary, the energy and alignment of our entire system continues to amaze me. The results are fantastic. But beyond that I continue to be most encouraged by the passion and vigor of our franchisees, operators and team members.

  • Getting a lead is one thing, maintaining it is another and not always an easy task. We remain as determined as ever to build upon our success.

  • Thanks. And we will now open it up for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Gregory Francfort, Bank of America.

  • Gregory Francfort - Analyst

  • Hey guys, congratulations on a good quarter. I just had a couple of questions. One on the food cost line, and I know you guys mentioned in the Q some promotional activities that drove that higher, are those ongoing promotions or is that something specific to the third quarter as we look out?

  • Jeff Lawrence - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, great question. This is Jeff.

  • In the food line item for corporate store specifically there is definitely have been and will continue to be some mix and promotional activity that runs through there that may cause that to bounce around a little bit. I think the bigger picture point, though, is that commodities continue to be fantastic in 2016 and as we look out a little bit, certainly to the end of this year, we continue to expect them to be pretty flat. But other than that, nothing really pushing that margin around.

  • Gregory Francfort - Analyst

  • Got it. Thanks.

  • Then just as I think about domestic store growth, how much of it is being driven by new franchisees versus existing franchisees? And when you look across the market, can you comment on what you think cash-on-cash returns are for some of the independent and small chains? I know you guys have been taking share from them, and I'm just wondering what sort of -- like, you guys are getting low 40% cash-on-cash return and maybe what the average is in the marketplace?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • So Greg, in terms of who's building the stores it is mostly existing franchisees. In fact, it's really all existing franchisees.

  • We have typically 20 to 25 new franchisees every year but those are people who come up through our system. They are managers before. And then typically their first store they wind up buying as opposed to building their first store, so essentially all of the openings are coming from our existing franchisees.

  • In terms of cash-on-cash returns for others in the category, clearly I don't know in terms of the overall. I guess what I would say is we have been seeing net closures amongst the mom-and-pops for a number of years now, really going back to the downturn and that has continued as the category has been consolidating.

  • So my assumption if they're closing is those are stores that don't have great cash-on-cash returns. But in terms of the overall averages, honestly I don't know.

  • Gregory Francfort - Analyst

  • Got it. Thank you very much. Helpful perspective and congratulations again.

  • Operator

  • Brian Bittner, Oppenheimer & Co.

  • Brian Bittner - Analyst

  • Thanks. Good morning guys. If you could let analysts become franchisees that would be great, too, based on these numbers.

  • The numbers are amazing. I'm just trying to better understand the acceleration that you've seen the last few quarters in the US business. As you look at the drivers of your performance internally, how important has the benefits of the loyalty program played in the improving results and just the traction you are getting from that?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • It's certainly been important and we're not going to break apart the specific components as you would guess for competitive reasons. But the quarter was about order counts as has been the consistent pattern. We are clearly taking share within the category.

  • But as I said in the comments and as you've heard us say before, this is about getting the fundamentals right. This is about the power of momentum that is causing franchisees to build more stores. It's increasing the amount of advertising that we're able to do.

  • We continue to with growing scale be able to with our supply chain folks do a better and better job of buying commodities based on higher volumes. So there are just an awful lot of things that are going right that are driving the momentum.

  • But, most importantly, when you put up a 13 I will tell you that you don't go into the year planning a 13. And what I am most proud of within our system is our franchisees and our store managers handling that kind of volume growth and doing it well and giving great service to our customers because it isn't easy.

  • And they've done a terrific job of trying to keep up with the volume. And only with that kind of execution do you continue the momentum. So hats off to our whole system.

  • Brian Bittner - Analyst

  • Indeed. Patrick, historically I think you've talked about another 1,000 stores being able to be built in the US. Is that still how you think about the domestic store growth opportunity or has that changed?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • No, what I've always said is I think that there are at least 1,000 more and I continue to believe that that's the case and you are certainly seeing that playing out. All I would add to that is that as volumes go up and as our share goes up that only creates the opportunity to build even more stores because places that might not have been viable become viable as your overall volumes and market share go up. So, yes, we continue to believe that there are 1,000-plus more out there that can be built.

  • Brian Bittner - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Karen Holthouse, Goldman Sachs.

  • Karen Holthouse - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking the question. So you had another quarter of accelerating store growth if you look at the overall system. And, I guess, how should we think about that relative to any visibility you have in the pipeline?

  • Are there timing things that are affecting that? Is you have meaningful ramp-up in the conversion rate/ or is that something that we could think of as manageable or continulable for the foreseeable future?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Yes, it's a good question. So our long-term guidance has been 5% to 7% and that is still the best number. We certainly feel very good about the growing momentum.

  • But one of the important things to keep in mind is we had about 100 conversions in Europe in the third quarter. And so that's not something that continues long term. And so there's a little bit of one-time in that number on the international side.

  • There is still more to be converted, but we are going to see the bulk of that done by the end of this year and the third quarter was the largest quarter of those conversions. But apart from that, you are seeing the base continue to grow as we open the 13,000 in the quarter. And so that 5% to 7% range continues to get bigger on an absolute store count basis.

  • So we clearly we feel very, very good about the momentum around store growth. We are particularly excited to see the domestic store growth moving because as we've talked about before, there are fundamentally four ways you can grow the business: same-store sales, domestically and internationally and store growth domestically and internationally.

  • We've had three of those four for quite some time. We now have the fourth part which is nice growth on the domestic side, as well. So the momentum there is terrific, but there was a little bit of a short-term boost from the conversions in the third quarter.

  • Karen Holthouse - Analyst

  • Then one other question which I will apologize in advance for something that's a little bit more short term in nature, but there's been both in the third quarter and then into the fourth quarter a couple of events between the Olympics, debates that I think folks have been pretty focused on as potentially nights that benefit the pizza players. So just anything you are willing to share on is that something that you think can flow through into additional demand?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • I really don't think so. We've looked at that very hard this year and in the past.

  • And events like that at the margin could have an effect, but in terms of any real material effect in our business you really don't have to think about those. They don't drive enough in any given quarter to really register.

  • Karen Holthouse - Analyst

  • All right, great. Thank you and congratulations.

  • Operator

  • John Glass, Morgan Stanley.

  • John Glass - Analyst

  • Patrick, in the past I remember you saying that there was some seasonality in the business in terms of new users using the brand for the first time in the third quarter in back-to-school, back-to-college. Was that dynamic still in place this quarter?

  • Was it exaggerated this quarter? In other words, are you finding you are getting incrementally even more users than you've ever had before this quarter? Any color around the seasonality particularly this quarter would be helpful.

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Yes, so the seasonality is really more into the fourth quarter typically in terms of growth on digital orders. So it starts in the fall but most of that just based on when the quarter ends is really hitting in the fourth quarter.

  • So that's the sort of thing that we have very consistently seen now for five, six, seven years, that the ramp-up is September to, call it, January, something like that and then it tends to flatten out as a percentage of sales, may even see a slight tick-down in the summer and then you get the ramp-up again through the fall. So the real answer is that pattern we wouldn't have seen much of through the third quarter, but we continue to be very happy with the overall growth on the digital side.

  • John Glass - Analyst

  • Thank you. Then just on the category itself, most of your gains have come from share gains as you've talked about over time, but how has the category performed? Has it been a tailwind for you now? Maybe ex-Domino's is the category a little better or conversely as we've seen in a lot of restaurants has the category actually decelerated so these gains are even more profound in that context?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • I think the category is -- the pizza category is continuing to be up in the 1% or 2% range, something like that. I don't know that we've seen a material change in the overall momentum, but clearly this kind of growth has been far more about share gains than about anything going on in the category.

  • So I think very modest growth in the category, though I would remind you when you look at overall growth in the category you are typically going to be looking at maybe 2% ticket growth. So modest category growth means fundamentally flat orders with a little bit of ticket. I think that's what we've continued to see in the category and thankfully we've been able to outperform the category.

  • John Glass - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Alton Stump, Longbow Research.

  • Alton Stump - Analyst

  • Good morning and once again great job on the quarter. Just two quick questions.

  • I guess first off on the salad launch, obviously it's very new here, so probably don't have a whole lot of data back on it yet. But just is there any color that you can give us as far as how much of that is coming from ticket as an add-on purchase versus, of course, veto votes being less standard? Anymore color that you could give us on how salads are faring so far.

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Salads are performing very nicely, very much in line with what we had projected. It all fits into our $5.99 mix-and-match. And as you've seen with the advertising when we launched salads it was as much about pizza as it was about salads.

  • Salads were, they only launched in mid-August. So you are looking at basically one out of three periods for us that have the salads in them, but we are very happy with how they are performing. I think very, very much in line with what we had expected there.

  • Alton Stump - Analyst

  • Got it. Well, I've had the salads myself and they are shockingly good. So great job.

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • (multiple speakers)

  • Alton Stump - Analyst

  • And the one other question real quickly, just as far as US unit count growth was up just over 3% year over year here in third quarter which is a great number. Obviously, you have already got almost 5,200 stores. Is there any reason to think that you guys couldn't hold that kind of 3-ish type of growth number into the foreseeable future in the US?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Well, I guess what I'd say is I'd go back to the overall guidance of 5% to 7%. Globally we certainly like the momentum that we've built in the domestic business.

  • I'm not going to start pulling together specific projections on international versus domestic. But we are very pleased to be getting a nice contribution from the domestic business. And with more stores to be built, as I was just discussing, there is certainly room for momentum to continue, but we are not giving a specific projection around domestic versus international.

  • Alton Stump - Analyst

  • Got it, thanks Pat and team.

  • Operator

  • Matt McGinley, Evercore ISI.

  • Matt McGinley - Analyst

  • Good morning. I have a follow-up on that unit growth comment you made on the US stores. So my question is what is the limiting factor on US store growth among franchisees?

  • These guys have done exceptionally well over the past years with large increases in the NAV and the profit per store has been I think just about a double and yet your growth is around 2% 3%. You did a little bit better this quarter, but why hasn't that growth rate even accelerated more given the unit economics are looking so much better than they did even five years ago?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • You are tough to satisfy, Matt.

  • Matt McGinley - Analyst

  • We have to be tough whenever you comp 13 and ticket any minimal (multiple speakers)

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Honestly it is, I mean clearly the capital is there. The will of our franchisees is there to do it. They are busy right now.

  • And I will go back to the comment that I made about execution, you do a plus 13 and you are very, very busy just keeping your stores staffed and managing your existing stores well.

  • I will tell you actually, I remember questions a few years ago when we announced our reimaging program, which we are still on track to substantially complete by the end of 2017. But our franchisees are busy running the stores they already have. They been busy doing reimages on stores.

  • The capital has not been a constraint at all. But they've also been busy swinging hammers, building new stores. And so you've got to find real estate, you've got to groovy through the construction process.

  • So it is not constrained by capital, it's not constrained by return on investments. At some point it becomes constrained by just how many available opportunities there are. But that's well off over the horizon for us.

  • And we like the fact that it's been just continually progressing the last few years. The new stores are opening very well. Our franchisees who have been opening on average are very happy with their decision to do that. So I think the constraining factor is really just the ability to find the new sites and work through the progress.

  • Matt McGinley - Analyst

  • Got it. Thanks for that. And I had a quick follow up one for Jeff probably on the company-owned transaction-related expense.

  • In the Q you called out about 140 basis point increase to 3% of sales for this transaction-related expense. My first question is what's actually in that 3%?

  • Because if it's just interchange that seems to be a pretty big number as a percentage of sales. And then given that tender is such a small percentage of sales, it's hard to imagine you would've had a mix shift in tender that would have driven that up so much. So I guess what is that and what actually drove that number up so much on the company-owned side?

  • Jeff Lawrence - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, Matt, transaction-related expenses as we pointed out mostly credit card related. Over time our credit card mix of our sales, particularly when you think about the success of our online presence with the profile ability to have a card securely stored, continues to push up the credit card mix of our business.

  • Credit card companies don't give us a break the more we actually send their way. So that actually is going to increase.

  • And the other thing we are seeing a little bit there are just some chargebacks. You get certain locales that have customer bases that basically charge back to the stores saying that they didn't get the pizza or things like that. Again, certain locations have been a little bit more of a thorn in the side than others.

  • But it's really a bunch of things that add up to move that. At the end of the day it's a couple of points of margin there, but it's something that we're focused on, particularly around the chargeback to make sure we limit those in the stores.

  • Matt McGinley - Analyst

  • Great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Chris O'Cull, KeyBanc.

  • Chris O'Cull - Analyst

  • I wanted to follow-up on the increased promotional spend. Jeff, is the increase in promotional spend related primarily to the loyalty program?

  • Jeff Lawrence - EVP & CFO

  • Promotional spend, I think the original question was what impact does promotional activity have on food I think was the original question I think we kicked the call off with. As far as advertising specifically as you can imagine when you do a 13 and our stores contribute about 6% of their sales in the US into the advertising fund, we are not short of cash to chase really good ROI projects right now when it comes to building the brand for marketing and promotional activities, etc. So very healthy on the cash flow coming in.

  • The ROIs of where these guys are spending the money, this is the first time in my 20-plus year career in QSR where the marketing guys think like finance guys and if they don't find a great ROI they won't spend it. The good news for us is they are finding great ROI with the dollars that are in the advertising funds.

  • And, again, we take that very seriously. Those are 95%-plus franchisee money. We need to put those to work in a good way, not just to build sales but to build profitable sales.

  • So we feel great about the money coming in. We feel great about how we are spending it. And you can't get a 13 without getting that part of the business right.

  • Chris O'Cull - Analyst

  • Should we expect the cost of sales to continue to be impacted by promotional spend as long as commodity prices are down? Or if commodity prices start to inflate do you expect that you will pull back on some of those discounts?

  • Jeff Lawrence - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, I think the biggest thing when you think about food as a percentage of sales in corporate stores is if commodities move significantly you are going to see that move around. If the cost of cheese and meats and flour start to go way up you're going to see that percentage suffer. If it goes the other way you are going to see a benefit.

  • As far as promotional mix not as big of an impact possibly, it's really going to be the way commodities move and, again, as we look at commodities 2016 has been a really good year for us. We expect it to finish out that way. And early look into 2017, at least based on the independent consensus that we get from economists, at least at this point not appearing to be significant in 2017 either, either way.

  • So, again, it's more about driving the sales. We are less concerned about the percentage, more concerned that corporate stores are making more money than they have ever made, even with those little bit of margin bouncing around a little bit.

  • Chris O'Cull - Analyst

  • But the commodity prices deflated this quarter and your cost of sales went up year over year. If commodities start to go up or let's say the cheese prices start to go up for some reason, should we expect the rate of growth in your cost of sales to increase even further?

  • Jeff Lawrence - EVP & CFO

  • No, not significantly.

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • The one thing I would say as you know we are one of I think only two largely franchised restaurant companies that talk about our franchisees' profitability. They had a terrific year last year and they are going to have a better year this year on overall EBITDA. And we feel very good about how that's trending.

  • So look, you manage all of it. At the end of the day you've got to have a compelling offer for your customers and you've got to generate a great return for your franchisees on the investments in the stores. As long as we're crossing both of those hurdles, then we're feeling pretty good about where we are and we are certainly continuing to see that.

  • So you may see some movement in the components of that: food, labor, all the rest of it. But our job is to continue to generate a strong return on investment for our franchisees.

  • Chris O'Cull - Analyst

  • Fair enough. Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Alex Slagle, Jefferies.

  • Alex Slagle - Analyst

  • Thanks. I'd like to get some perspective on your carryout business and how your success with the fast-growing digital ordering platform and the rollout of the loyalty program and reimages is driving your carryout business relative to delivery?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Yes, so carryout has continued to do well. Both are growing, and I think the one thing that we continue to see is the majority of our stores are now reimaged. It is a better experience for our customers than it was in the past.

  • There have been questions in the past about specific return on investments from reimaging a store. And we've always talked about the fact that any individual store simply reimaging where they are is a 1% or 2% lift but that our expectation has always been that you are going to see a catalytic event as the majority or all of these stores are reimaged. I think we are seeing that.

  • I think part of what's driving our comps right now is that these stores look better, it's a better environment for carryout customers to walk into and that's an important part of our business. So we are getting growth on both sides. Delivery is growing, carryout is growing but I think the reimaging is certainly going to have at least a near-term more positive impact on the carryout business than it does on the delivery business.

  • Alex Slagle - Analyst

  • Okay. And then one question on the domestic supply chains. Given the significant volume growth in the last few years, do you see a need to meaningfully expand supply chain capacity and if so when should we see that and to what magnitude?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • We absolutely are going to have to increase capacity in our supply chain. The team, Troy and the team have done a great job keeping up with the volume that's been coming through but we've talked about this before. There are certainly in the next few years are going to be some increased investments into the supply chain.

  • Volumes are up very dramatically if you go back six, seven years now. And we've been in an ongoing repair and maintenance mode as opposed to a significant capacity increase.

  • We have excess capacity but we are certainly using that up. And we think that there's an opportunity to build more capacity which, frankly, will help efficiencies because they are getting busy enough that at some point you are not going to be as smooth with operating those supply chain centers as you would have been otherwise.

  • It's a very high-class problem. I love trying to figure out how to deal with higher volumes going through our system. But it is something that we're definitely going to be addressing.

  • Alex Slagle - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • John Ivankoe, JPMorgan.

  • John Ivankoe - Analyst

  • Thank you. It's been a little while since we've talked about the digital ordering fees that you charge the franchisees. So I hope you could shed some light on that both in the US and international.

  • I think it was a couple of years ago you took up the fee from $0.17 to $0.21. So I just wanted to see how much flexibility that you had in terms of taking that fee up more and what the franchisees would think about that? And if we could talk about what percentage of the international stores are currently paying the fee and if that is a long-term opportunity?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • So we're still at $0.21 domestically. It's a little bit higher outside of the US just because there are some costs of getting smaller markets up and running on the platform. Today we have a reasonable number of international markets that are operating, I think it's kind of 20-plus countries that are operating on the global online ordering system.

  • Many of those are smaller, so it is still a relatively low percentage of the system. The biggest market that is on our platform today is Canada. But we've got a lot of markets in the Caribbean, a few in the Middle East, South Africa, some of our newer markets that have been opening.

  • Certainly as that expands more around the world and it has been growing we have been adding countries to that. It's an opportunity. It is a global enabled so we have got a system that will operate in multiple markets.

  • So there is an opportunity there that those digital fees will grow just as the number of stores around the world are added to the platform. In terms of that charge right now it's at $0.21. Clearly investments that we've been making have been working.

  • As we've talked about often the return on investment on our digital platform has been terrific. You are seeing that playing out in our comp growth. And we are committed that we are going to generate a good ROI off of that, and what that means for the future we will work through but right now we are still at that $0.21 that you quoted domestically.

  • John Ivankoe - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Jeffrey Bernstein, Barclays.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Great, thank you very much. Two things.

  • One, Patrick, just you mention in the sustained success and how you don't necessarily plan on a 13% comp when you go into any quarter or year. But maybe on that, are there any hidden challenges that maybe we don't appreciate whether it's capacity in store? I think you touched upon the supply chain or from a labor or guest satisfaction perspective, are there any areas that you get caught off guard when you have this type of volume growth that you are then forced to play defense on?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Not really other than we've already talked about in terms of just the sheer volume. You've heard me say before in terms of what I worry about, I wake up every day and I worry about cyber security and I worry about food safety. Those always have to be top of mind.

  • And you are never going to be in a position where you can relax on those things. But in terms of the volume growth and what worries me there, the stores have been doing a terrific job of handling it. We are building more stores, which will help any capacity constraints there at the supply chain we've said we are going to need to invest in, but the team has done a great job of keeping up.

  • Our technology folks have to make sure that we've got enough capacity and that the pipes are big enough to handle all the volume that's going through. But in general we've been in awfully good shape on those fronts. So we know where those constraints could be and actively have been managing that.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Got it. Then Jeff, just on the return of cash I think you mentioned in your prepared remarks the Board looks at the return pretty regularly in terms of presumably I guess right now the balancing of a dividend and share purchase.

  • But with the stock price appreciation, now the dividend is a modest, right now I guess it's a sub-1% yield. So just wondering is there a target level or what goes on in the boardroom discussions and is it just preferred flexibility of share repurchase over dividend or could in any one year those flip? Or just wondering what the thought process is behind the choices there.

  • Jeff Lawrence - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, I can't tell you everything that goes on in our boardroom. But what I can tell you is that we have a very astute Board who has been around a long time with us who understand that we're serious about optimizing our capital structure. We will continue to be serious about optimizing our capital structure, and if that provides us with an opportunity to have some excess cash we roll through with them the different menu options that we have.

  • As you know we have a history of really being flexible depending on what's going on in the marketplace, both with capital structure choices as well as use of cash choices. We feel good about the choices we have made in the past. Going forward we are fully flexible.

  • We do have about $925 million of debt which is due in January of 2019 which is par callable without a penalty in July of 2017 next summer. And so, again, it doesn't mean that we are going to hit it at that point in time. We could go earlier or later.

  • But back to use of cash, our Board has liked the fact that we have done an ordinary dividend in the past. I can't control the yield, obviously. The investors control the yield.

  • But no, listen, we are comfortable with the way we spend our cashier here. And it's going to continue to be a challenge hopefully going forward if our operators continue to perform the way they have.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Good problem to have. Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Peter Saleh, BTIG.

  • Peter Saleh - Analyst

  • Great, thank you. I just wanted to come back to your philosophy on menu pricing.

  • I think every quarter we are hearing traffic is up pretty dramatically but the check is flat. So are you taking any price and we are seeing maybe mix declining or what's your philosophy and how should we be thinking about pricing going forward?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Ultimately pricing is getting set by our customers. And customers continue to be a little bit cautious as they have been since the recovery and we've been finding ways that we can create great value for them and continue to accelerate the profitability of stores. So we feel good about the balanced approach that we've taken there.

  • There is certainly over the course of the last few years on average we've seen a little bit of ticket growth but the majority of our growth has been through orders. We think that's the healthier way to do it. Ultimately, the health of the business is going to be driven by order counts and how many people are choosing to do business with you each day.

  • But we have cautiously found ways to get ticket. Remember, ticket is a function both of price but also of how much is in that basket. And so when you see us launching salads or we launched the marble cookie brownie last year, those sorts of things are allow us to have smart upsells that can be way of growing ticket without necessarily taking price.

  • Peter Saleh - Analyst

  • Got it. And then can I ask on the salads, are the salads, are the gross margin on the salads, are they higher or lower than the overall pizza menu?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • I'm not going to get into the specific on that. But we feel very good about where they are and how they are performing. They fit nicely into our $5.99 mix and match.

  • Peter Saleh - Analyst

  • All right. And then, lastly, given the store performance, the comps and the EBITDA improvement that are likely coming for this year, are we going to see more of the DXPs or are the franchisees asking to get more of the DXPs in the market?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • They are. And our initial run is done but there is some demand for more out there. There was a model change, the model that we put it on, so if we were going to do more we would actually have to produce new tooling and so I'm not sure that we wind up doing that unless there was a lot of demand for more.

  • We certainly could have our franchisees buy more if they were available today, but something we will look at. But what I will tell you is customers love it. For the relatively few number that are out there, the visibility of those cars is terrific and we get an awful lot of comments about them.

  • Peter Saleh - Analyst

  • All right. Thank you again and congrats on the quarter.

  • Operator

  • Steve Anderson, Maxim Group.

  • Steve Anderson - Analyst

  • -- has been answered but I do want to ask a broader question about the pizza industry. And you mentioned about the 1% to 2% growth in the broader industry. Do you include fast casual pizza players within that 1% to 2%, and do you see any sign of a potential shakeout in that segment and do you see any lift-off from that?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • We do include them in the overall category and the overall category growth. You have continued to see stores getting built. I don't know that I would call it a shakeout, but I am relatively confident that at some point you will see consolidation.

  • There are an awful lot of players that decided it was a good idea at roughly the same time and enough similarity in approach that I wouldn't be surprised that you saw some consolidation at some point. In terms of shakeout, I don't know, that implies closures.

  • But I guess what I would say what you have heard me say before which is fast casual pizza to me is really about the idea of a better environment, great food, still needs to be fast value, still needs to be there. And we are working hard at all of those consumer benefits and that's why we think we are growing so strongly.

  • So they are out there, they are growing. I just don't view it as a new category. I view it as new competitors who, frankly, have been taking share from mom-and-pops and regional chains that simply haven't been performing as well.

  • So the overall thesis on the category I think remains the same which is there is limited growth in the category. You are seeing big players take share from smaller players on average. We have thankfully been getting more than our fair share, though we'd always like even more than that.

  • And the fast casual players as they are referred to, I just think there are people who are doing a nice job with their pizza restaurants. And they are taking share from existing players.

  • Steve Anderson - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Mark Smith, Feltl and Company.

  • Mark Smith - Analyst

  • First, can you just talk about your ability to compete with grocery stores versus maybe the rest of the restaurant industry? And, secondly, if you can talk about any competition that you see coming from gas stations as we look at Casey's or grocery stores within the pizza category?

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • Yes, at the end of the day I suppose anybody who is feeding anybody in the US is competition. As it relates to pizza and frozen pizza or take-and-bake, there is some interplay between our category and those categories but not much.

  • During the time when you saw a lot of growth in frozen we just couldn't see that it was directly affecting us much if at all. And so the same is true of gas stations, any take-and-bake, it's out there but I'm just not so sure that there is that much interplay there.

  • My view on frozen pizza in particular has always been, and I think frozen pizza despite how they try to position themselves tends to just cannibalize other frozen food as opposed to cannibalizing the fresh pizza category. So I think despite how they've tried to position themselves one more sale of frozen pizza is one less sale of frozen lasagna. And I think that's why you haven't seen the overall frozen category grow much in grocery over the last few years.

  • There was some time when they were adding doors of frozen pizza and that was growing the frozen pizza category. But I don't think you saw a lot of net growth in frozen prepared foods overall. So I think that is more a competitive issue within grocery and within the frozen aisle than it is necessarily to the pizza category.

  • Mark Smith - Analyst

  • Great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • That does conclude our questions for today's call. I will now turn the program back over for any closing remarks.

  • Patrick Doyle - President & CEO

  • All right. Thank you everyone for joining the call today.

  • We look forward to seeing many of you at our Investor Day in January. And following that we will be discussing our fourth-quarter and full-year 2016 results with you on Tuesday, February 28.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining the third-quarter 2016 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful afternoon.