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  • Operator

  • Welcome to the first-quarter 2011 ConocoPhillips earning conference call.

  • My name is Kim, and I will be your operator for today's call.

  • At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

  • Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.

  • Please note that this conference is being recorded.

  • I will now turn the call over to Mr.

  • Clayton Reasor, Vice President of Corporate and Investor Relations.

  • Mr.

  • Reasor, you may begin.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Thank you.

  • Good morning, and thanks for your interest in ConocoPhillips.

  • We're here to talk about our first-quarter 2011 results.

  • I am joined today by Jeff Sheets, Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer.

  • This morning, we will provide a summary of our key financial and operating results for the first quarter, as well as our outlook for 2011.

  • As in the past, you can find our presentation materials on the Investor Relations section of ConocoPhillips' website.

  • Before we get started, I would like you to take a look at the safe harbor statement we've got on slide 2.

  • And it's just a reminder that we will be making forward-looking statements during the presentation and the question-and-answer session.

  • Actual results may differ materially from what is presented today.

  • And factors that could cause actual results to differ are included in our filings with the SEC.

  • Now I will turn the call over to Jeff to take you through our prepared remarks and presentation.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Thanks, Clayton, and good morning to those on the call and those listening in on the Web.

  • I'll start with slide 2, which highlights some of our first-quarter results.

  • During the first quarter, our earnings after adjustment for special items were $2.6 billion.

  • That is $1.82 a share, which is up from $1.47 a share in the first quarter of 2010.

  • We had improved financial results this quarter compared to a year ago.

  • However, we experienced more unscheduled downtime than normal in both our E&P and R&M sectors, and that adversely impacted income by about $150 million.

  • Earlier in the quarter, we announced a 20% increase into our dividend, and our Board authorized a $10 billion share repurchase program.

  • And in the quarter, we returned $2.6 billion of cash to our shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases.

  • Annualized return on capital was 12% for the quarter, and cash return on capital was 21%.

  • Our first-quarter production was 1.7 million BOE per day, and our global refining capacity was 89% during the first quarter.

  • During the quarter, we generated cash from operations of $4 billion, excluding working capital changes, and ended the quarter with $8.4 billion in cash and short-term investments.

  • So let's turn to slide 3 and discuss some of the details of our performance.

  • So, total-Company adjusted earnings were $2.6 billion, up $426 million compared to the first quarter of 2010.

  • Both E&P and R&M improved earnings from -- over year ago.

  • Our E&P segment improved $282 million due to higher liquids prices, which were partially offset by lower production volumes and higher production taxes.

  • Compared to the first quarter last year, our R&M segment generated $459 million more in earnings this quarter, due primarily to higher refining margins.

  • Controllable costs were flat for the quarter compared with a year ago.

  • However, variable compensation expenses related to prior-year performance negatively impacted earnings for the quarter by about $50 million, and that cost was spread out across the operating segments.

  • This quarter's earnings were also negatively impacted by the discontinuation of equity accounting for LUKOIL.

  • So if you exclude the $385 million impact of LUKOIL earnings in the first quarter of 2010, our adjusted earnings for the first quarter of 2011 are around $800 million higher than our earnings in the first quarter of last year.

  • So we'll move to the next slide and take a look at production levels for the quarter.

  • First-quarter production was 1.7 million BOE per day.

  • That is 126,000 BOE per day lower than the first quarter of last year.

  • Field decline decreased production this quarter versus last quarter by about 187,000 BOE a day.

  • That is primarily out of the North Sea, the Lower 48, China and Alaska.

  • But nearly offsetting this decline was 175,000 BOE per day of production from new projects, as well as new drilling and improved well performance around our existing production.

  • The increase in production from projects is primarily from Qatargas 3, Bohai Bay and the Lower 48 liquids-rich shale plays.

  • Downtime also adversely impacted our production during the quarter.

  • The 65,000 barrel a day -- per day production is primarily due to civil unrest in Libya, a several-day shutdown of the Trans Alaska Pipeline System in January, a supply vessel collision with our Brittania platform in the UK, and other downtime in the North Sea.

  • The impact to production from asset disposition was 49,000 BOE per day.

  • Nearly all of this was related to the dispositions we did in 2010 in Canada and the Lower 48.

  • We sold some additional nonoperated interest in the Lower 48 in the first quarter, but that only impacted production by about 2,000 BOE per day.

  • If you looked just at North American natural gas, the reduction was about 50,000 BOE per day of this total increase -- of this total decrease in production.

  • So, if you turn to slide 5, we can talk about E&P earnings.

  • So E&P adjusted earnings for the quarter were $2.2 billion, which was 15% higher than the same quarter a year ago.

  • Higher prices and other market impacts contributed $519 million of the increased earnings.

  • The earnings improvement was partially offset by a $294 million decrease in after-tax revenue from lower sales volume.

  • And there was a $57 million benefit from costs and other items during the quarter.

  • So, if you look at the table on the bottom of the slide, you can see that the improved E&P earnings were driven by international earnings.

  • US adjusted earnings declined compared to the first quarter last year, largely driven by lower volumes, partially offset by higher liquids prices.

  • Our realized crude oil and NGL prices were higher than in the first quarter last year, while realized prices for bitumen and natural gas were flat to slightly lower, the impact of lower Henry Hub prices being partially offset by higher natural gas prices internationally.

  • So we'll move to the next slide and talk about E&P metrics.

  • Look at E&P income per BOE.

  • Both income per BOE and cash contributions per BOE increased, reflecting the improvement in prices for oil and NGL, as well as some self-help in the form of shifts in our production mix.

  • We continue to shift production away from Lower 48 and Canadian natural gas, given our view that natural gas prices are going to be pretty subdued in the near-to-medium term.

  • And Lower 48 represents a shrinking -- Lower 48 and Canada gas represents a shrinking part of our portfolio.

  • If you look at 2008, it was 28% of our portfolio.

  • It was 26% in 2010 and 24% in the first quarter 2011.

  • So, full-year 2010 E&P income per BOE was $10.56.

  • If you look at the first quarter, it was $14.34, so an improvement of $3.80 per BOE.

  • About 10% of this margin improvement can be explained by the shift in production away from Lower 48 and Canadian natural gas that I just discussed.

  • So, turning to R&M on slide 7, our refining and marketing adjusted earnings improved significantly over the same quarter a year ago.

  • Downstream market conditions were stronger in the US, and US market crack improved over 130%, driving a $464 million improvement in margins and other impacts.

  • Volumes were a small benefit in this quarter compared to the first quarter last year, mainly driven by increased volumes in some of our specialty businesses and in US marketing.

  • Our refining capacity utilization of 86/87% from the quarter was essentially unchanged from the first quarter of last year.

  • International refining capacity increased to 96%, up from 79% in the same quarter of last year, when we adjust for the fact that we're no longer operating the Wilhelmshaven refinery.

  • Unplanned downtime cost us about 2% of first-quarter utilization, and the majority of this downtime occurred at our Sweeny and our Borger refineries.

  • Compared to the first quarter of 2010, operating costs were $26 million higher, primarily due to higher maintenance compensation and environmental and turnaround costs, partially offset by some lower utility costs.

  • As you saw in our press release, we built inventory in R&M in the quarter.

  • Because we are in the market buying crude for our refineries and selling products both from our refineries and our upstream assets, we have a strong physical position which allows us to do some profitable trading around these positions by capturing arbitrage and lending opportunities in the market.

  • Establishing discretionary inventories is part of that trading operation.

  • And trading contributed about $50 million to R&M earnings in the first quarter.

  • So, the working capital impact that we see from these discretionary inventory builds will be uses of cash in some quarters and they will be sources of cash in other quarters, but they will tend to balance out over time.

  • So, we will take a look, a quick look at our results from our other segments on the next slide.

  • Chemicals segment posted record earnings of $193 million in the quarter, up $110 million from a year ago, this increase being driven by higher margins and lower operating costs.

  • Midstream earnings of $73 million were essentially flat with last year.

  • And corporate costs of $300 million were essentially flat with last year as well.

  • So you'll move on to slide 9 and look at cash flow for the quarter.

  • We generated $4 billion in cash from operations this quarter, if you exclude the $2.1 billion increase in working capital.

  • We generated $1.8 billion in cash proceeds from dispositions.

  • These proceeds included about $1.2 billion from the sale of LUKOIL shares and $600 million from other asset dispositions.

  • With this cash, we funded $3.1 billion of the capital program, which was $2.9 billion in E&P and around $200 million in R&M.

  • As I mentioned earlier, distributions to the shareholders were $2.6 billion for the quarter, which included the repurchase of 21 million shares at a total cost of $1.64 billion, and $940 million of dividends.

  • We have resumed the share repurchase program in mid-February following the announcement of our dividend increase and our share repurchase program.

  • Debt reduction was around $400 million for the quarter.

  • And at the end of the quarter, we had $6.2 billion in cash and $2.2 billion in short-term investments.

  • And we expect to use the majority of this cash to repurchase ConocoPhillips shares.

  • Turning to the next slide, we will take a look at our capital structure.

  • On this slide, we just give some history of our equity and our debt levels.

  • Not a lot of change this quarter compared to the end of 2010.

  • Current debt balance was $23.2 billion; debt-to-cap ratio right around 25%.

  • As we said previously, we're happy with where our debt balance is, and we'll see it drift down a little bit over time as we have debt issues mature.

  • We had $400 million of debt mature in the first quarter, and we will see about another $500 million of debt reduction for the balance of the year.

  • So we don't see a need to substantially reduce the debt balances from where they are today.

  • The debt is long term.

  • It's low cost.

  • We have a pretax average cost of this debt of around 5.5%.

  • So, we will move to the next slide and talk some about capital efficiency metrics.

  • ROCE and cash returns here that we're showing now exclude the impact of LUKOIL to our current and our prior periods.

  • So both our ROCE and cash returns improved in the first quarter, driven by growth in earnings and cash flow.

  • Capital employed was basically flat for the quarter.

  • We had a slight increase due to some foreign currency adjustments.

  • Upstream ROCE for the quarter was 15% compared to 12% in 2010.

  • Downstream ROCE annualized for the quarter was 8%, which is compared to 5% in 2010.

  • So this completes the review of our first-quarter results, and I will wrap up with some forward-looking comments before we open the line up for questions.

  • I will start with some guidance on our downstream business.

  • We expect 2011 turnaround activity to be similar to what we had in 2010, so pretax expenses of around $400 million to $450 million.

  • And this is going to be weighted toward the second half of the year.

  • We expect 2011 global refining capacity utilization rate to be around 90%.

  • And our total refining capacity now is 2.4 million barrels per day.

  • That is down [from] 2.7 million barrels per day last year due to the shutting down of the Wilhelmshaven refinery.

  • At our Wood River refinery, we still expect the new units related to the core project to be up and running in the fourth quarter this year.

  • As we pointed out at the analyst presentation, we expect that this project will increase heavy crude capability by about 130,000 barrels per day, improve our clean product yield by 5%, and increase our realized margins by about $4 a barrel.

  • So, moving to E&P, we've given guidance that we expect 2011 production to be about 1.7 million BOE per day before impacts related to Libya production or any other additional asset dispositions.

  • So, typically, our second-quarter and our third-quarter production levels are lower than our first and our fourth quarter, due to increased maintenance in the North Sea and lower production out of Alaska.

  • The events in Libya negatively impacted our production in the first quarter and will continue to do so at a rate of 45,000 to 50,000 barrels per day.

  • But the earnings and cash flow impact associated with that are around $25 million to $30 million per quarter.

  • Our OECD-focused portfolio is less sensitive to PSC impacts.

  • A $10 per barrel increase in our oil price impacts production by about 1,000 to 3,000 barrels per day due to the PSC impacts.

  • So, last month, the UK proposed tax legislation, which if it is enacted in the third quarter this year, as they've talked about, which will significantly increase the tax liability to our UK upstream operations.

  • When this law is enacted, we would expect that we're going to record about a $100 million noncash charge to earnings due to the remeasurement of deferred tax liability.

  • They also announced a second tax proposal related to the tax rates applicable to decommissioning costs.

  • And if that is enacted, that will result in an additional noncash charge in 2012 from remeasurement of deferred tax liabilities.

  • And we are currently evaluating the potential impact of that legislation to our operations.

  • So, moving to exploration, in the North Sea we have two wildcat wells planned to test the Deep Triassic prospects.

  • We spud the Peking Duck wildcat in late March and expect to reach target depth late in the second quarter.

  • And we expect to spud the Pelican wildcat in 2012.

  • Also in the North Sea, we acquired two Norwegian blocks in the Barents Sea during the first quarter.

  • In the Caspian, the results of the Rak More discovery are still being analyzed, and we expect to spud the Nursultan well later this year or early next year.

  • In Poland, we expect the third well in May to further delineate our opportunities in this area.

  • This is the first horizontal delineation well, and it follows two vertical wells in 2010, which tested the play concept.

  • We continue to pursue high-quality unconventional opportunities in North America.

  • This quarter, we added 33,000 acres in the emerging Wolfcamp shale play in the Midland Basin.

  • We remain encouraged by what we're seeing from results at Eagle Ford.

  • Early production performance from the wells is better than what we expected.

  • Initial rates are strong, and the production is not declining as fast as we initially premised.

  • We expect to have 14 rigs operating in this play during the majority of this year.

  • And production from Eagle Ford in the first quarter was 71% liquids.

  • We're also active in the liquids-rich areas of the Bakken, North Barnett and Permian, with 10 rigs operating in those areas.

  • We expect to take that up to 12 rigs during this year.

  • And in addition, we are participating in around a dozen nonoperated rigs in these areas.

  • In all of the Lower 48, our plans are to have twice as many rigs running by year-end than we had running in the first quarter last year.

  • So, shifting to Australia, APLNG executed a binding sales and purchase agreement with Sinopec for the supply of 4.3 million tonnes per annum of LNG for 20 years.

  • As part of this agreement, Sinopec is going to become a 15% equity owner in APLNG.

  • And we are still targeting a midyear final investment decision, at which point we would anticipate that we will recognize around a $250 million loss related to our dilution of our interest in APLNG.

  • And we still are in very active discussions with potential offtakers for the second train volumes.

  • This was the first full quarter of operations for our QG3 projects.

  • The project in general ramped up faster than we expected, and we're very pleased with the performance of this project.

  • Our 50-50 joint venture, Chevron Phillips Chemical, announced that it is advancing a feasibility study to construct a world-scale ethylene cracker at one of its facilities along the Gulf Coast.

  • As we discussed in our analyst presentation last month, we continue to advance our asset disposition program.

  • And we expect to generate $5 billion to $10 billion of proceeds from asset sales in 2011 and 2012.

  • We have given guidance previously that we expect these sales to impact production by 50,000 to 100,000 BOE per day and take refining capacity down to 2.4 million to 1.9 million barrels per day.

  • So, on the share repurchase side so far this year through yesterday, we have repurchased 32 million shares at a total cost of $2.5 billion.

  • And we still expect to spend somewhere between $5 billion and $10 billion on share repurchase in 2011.

  • So that concludes our prepared remarks, and we will now open the line for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Kate Minyard, JPMorgan.

  • Kate Minyard - Analyst

  • Just a couple of quick questions.

  • First of all, on APLNG, what are the milestones that we're looking for in terms of gas sales agreements that would enable you to reach an FID?

  • And is there any level of gas price risk that ConocoPhillips would be willing to assume in order to advance the project to that stage?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So we have got one train sold now to Sinopec, and we're actively marketing the second train.

  • As we go through the next few months, we will be having discussions with our partner about exactly what type of final investment decision we will take, whether we take a one-train FID or a two-train FID or a one train with building the infrastructure for the second.

  • Those are all things we will be discussing with our partner over the next year as we -- over the next few months as we continue to market the second train.

  • We can't really say today the exactly what type of FID we will take.

  • We're very optimistic about our ability to sell the second train, though.

  • The market continues to have good, strong demand for LNG, both in the near term and the longer term.

  • As far as whether ConocoPhillips would take significant gas price risk to market the trains, we don't view that that is necessary.

  • There is a good, strong market out there for sales of LNG from the project.

  • Kate Minyard - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Thanks.

  • And then just quickly on CapEx in Lower 48, at current oil prices, just curious as to whether you would be looking to increase spending in the Lower 48, and if so, when might we see a production volume response from that?

  • And I will go ahead and leave it there.

  • Thanks.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, so at the analyst presentation, we talked quite a bit about our plans for the Lower 48.

  • And there is nothing new, from what we said about a month ago, on Lower 48 capital.

  • So we are continuing to evaluate the resource plays that we have there for potential incremental investment opportunities.

  • So there is a potential we could do incremental CapEx.

  • We haven't made any decision to do that yet.

  • The production guidance that we gave at the analyst presentation as far as the rate of increase from the shale plays is about -- is the same as what we had said before.

  • We ultimately think we're going to get that up to around 100,000 barrels a day coming out of the Eagle Ford, the Bakken and the Barnett.

  • And we think by the end of this year, we're going to be up -- what was that?

  • Do you remember the number there, Clayton?

  • We will be probably up to 40,000 or 50,000 by the end of this year.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • That's right.

  • Yes, I think the guidance we've given on Eagle Ford, Bakken and North Barnett is around 50,000 barrels a day by year-end.

  • Kate Minyard - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Doug Terreson, ISI.

  • Doug Terreson - Analyst

  • Jeff, the quality of your E&P portfolio has improved considerably over the last several years with the success you've had on the development side and the divestitures, the plan that is underway.

  • And while your cost and on-schedule performance has been pretty good in the past, it looks likely that it's going to be a little bit challenged in the future, given the number of projects that you have in Asia, specifically in China, Malaysia and APLNG.

  • It's a pretty long list.

  • And that's true especially with competitor investment in the region rising.

  • So, my question is, how is the Company preparing to manage this phase while ensuring that you guys sustain this positive project delivery record and the returns that you expect in that area?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, so I think the challenges we have are what you outlined, is we're operating in areas where there's significant other activity.

  • So, we're being very aggressive about how we're managing developments in Queensland, for example.

  • They're working now with our EPC contractor to make sure that we don't run into difficulties there and as we execute those projects.

  • Our heavy oil developments in Canada, the same kind of thing.

  • We know that that is a multiyear development, and we really work to schedule those things out to where that gets done.

  • If you look at our resource plays in North America, like how we are developing Eagle Ford, we've made sure we had the rig commitments and the completion commitments in place early as we develop those programs.

  • So, yes, we've got a lot of things going on in terms of developing our portfolio.

  • And there's always schedule risk.

  • But part of what -- we recognize that going into these projects, and we're putting a lot of effort into managing that, that schedule and cost risk up front.

  • Doug Terreson - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And also in E&P, ConocoPhillips took an almost $5 billion noncash impairment in 2007 related to the position in Venezuela, which over the past few years has progressed through the legal system and the ICSID.

  • And so on this point, I wanted to see if we could get an update on the status, the next steps, and the possible timelines, which I know may be difficult on that situation.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, sure.

  • It is difficult to predict the timelines.

  • But as we've talked about before, we have filed -- we're working through the arbitration process through the international courts.

  • But we've had our arbitration hearings.

  • We expect to get a ruling on jurisdiction and the parameters on which values would be calculated later on in this year and then values as far as the damage calculations subsequent to that.

  • But there is also appeals processes that can be used even after these rulings are achieved.

  • So we're probably still several years away from having a judgment that we can collect on.

  • Doug Terreson - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Jacques Rousseau, RBC.

  • Jacques Rousseau - Analyst

  • Just wanted to follow up on the slide you had talking about upstream production volumes.

  • And specifically, I was curious of the field decline bar of 187,000 BOE per day.

  • How much of that is oil versus gas?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • I don't have that right off the top of my head.

  • It's a little bit more weighted -- if you look at our portfolio overall, it's particularly related to North America.

  • The shift is away from natural gas.

  • So the decline in natural gas in North America is more than the decline in liquids.

  • I think we just have to get back to you on a more precise split of how that declined.

  • But it's a little bit more gas weighted than oil weighted.

  • Jacques Rousseau - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And one other question, if I could.

  • Regarding Alaska, I know there's been a lot of discussion about potentially changing some of the tax laws there.

  • And it looks like it may get pushed off into next year.

  • And I just wanted to get your views on that.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Alaska has got a very progressive tax regime now.

  • And it's getting to be a relatively high cost, a high-tax-cost area for us.

  • We think that there would be opportunity for increased investment in Alaska that is adversely impacted by the tax regime up there.

  • So we will continue to work with the relevant people in the government there to try to influence things.

  • We're hopeful, but it's hard -- we don't know what -- it's hard to speculate on what the impact might be.

  • Jacques Rousseau - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Paul Sankey, Deutsche Bank.

  • Paul Sankey - Analyst

  • You reiterated your disposal guidance of $5 billion to $10 billion.

  • I was wondering, firstly, what the near-term potential news flow would be out of that program; secondly, whether the issues in North Africa have potentially derailed some of the potential disposals; and thirdly, any news that you might have on refining restructuring would be gratefully received.

  • Thank you.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, I think as we talked about at the analyst presentation, as supposed to what we did in 2010, where we were fairly specific about guidance on asset sales, we're taking the approach of we have several things we are pursuing, but we're not likely to give a lot of guidance about them until transactions are at an announcement point.

  • So I don't think there's really much more we're going to say other than what we have said so far regarding asset sales.

  • We continue -- we've mentioned before that we're continuing to work the Wilhelmshaven refinery asset sales process.

  • We've got other things we're investigating and working on the downstream side, but it's too early to try to comment on those specifically.

  • And as far as the events in North Africa, there's not much we -- there's not really a comment that we can make there on the impact of that on our asset sales program, either.

  • Paul Sankey - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • On the pace of the buyback, it was a little bit slower than we expected.

  • Can we anticipate that to accelerate for the rest of the year?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So, with the buyback, we've spent $1.6 billion, basically, in the first quarter.

  • That was starting in mid-February, after we were out with our dividend and share repurchase announcement.

  • As we talked about a little bit earlier, we spent basically another $900 million in April.

  • So that'd give you kind of an idea of the pace we've been going at so far this year, and we will continue to evaluate that as we go through the year.

  • Paul Sankey - Analyst

  • Yes, so it would be an appropriate run rate, then?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Paul Sankey - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Doug Leggate, Bank of America.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • A couple of I guess a little more granular things from me.

  • Your depreciation in the upstream fell about $140 million sequentially.

  • I'm guessing some of that related to the unplanned downtime, but can you just give us an idea of what is going on there in terms of how we should think about the run rate on a go-forward basis for -- I guess both for upstream and group DD&A?

  • And I have a follow-up, please.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So, for DD&A, what we guided at the analyst presentation of about $8 billion for 2011 is still what we would say for guidance.

  • That is lower than DD&A levels in last year.

  • Part of that is due to lower volumes.

  • Also, part of it is due to a shift in where our production comes from in that we're having increased production from equity affiliates, where the DD&A number is essentially part of the equity earnings number and not separate as a DD&A number.

  • So that is also a significant part of the change.

  • So, guidance of $8 billion for DD&A, $7 billion upstream, $1 billion or so downstream.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Thank you.

  • And you kind of read my mind there, because my follow-up was really on the equity affiliates.

  • Obviously, you don't break out the earnings there, but is Qatar included in there?

  • And could you maybe just give us an update on how Qatar is performing?

  • Because, obviously, that has been a big part of your incremental production this year and again is expected this year.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Right.

  • Yes, Qatar is in there.

  • And it has performed, as we've mentioned earlier, it has performed quite well.

  • It ramped up faster than we anticipated, and production has been fairly steady there.

  • So that has been -- the news has been good coming out of Qatar on the QG3 project.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • What are the volumes, Jeff?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • The volumes are about 80,000 BOE a day.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes.

  • That's net.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Net, yes.

  • Our share was 80,000 BOE per day, right.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Can you give any -- go ahead, sorry.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Well, I'm just saying, just in equity affiliates in general, the big things that go into that, of course, are our midstream and our chemicals joint venture.

  • Our two joint ventures with Cenovus on the upstream, the FCCL joint venture on the upstream and the WRB joint venture on the downstream and APLNG, as well as the Qatar project.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • And then a little bit of Russia.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • And a little bit -- right, the NMNG joint venture in Russia.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Okay, that's terrific.

  • And the last one I have, if I may, is the asset sales on the dollar side, I think the guidance is pretty clear there.

  • But could you give us just a kind of run rate to date as to what you have completed in terms of volumes in the upstream and what you still have set to do?

  • And I will leave it there.

  • Thanks.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, so the only thing we did that was closed in the first quarter was a relatively small transaction of some Lower 48 nonoperated assets.

  • It was around $300 million or $400 million.

  • The volumes associated with that are relatively small, of kind of 2,000 to 3,000 barrels a day.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Okay, so what have you got left to do, Jeff?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Pardon me, what's left to do?

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • What have you got left to do?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Well, we got left to do the rest of the asset sales program we've talked about, the whole $5 billion to $10 billion, and kind of like the earlier question, we will comment more on those things as they occur as opposed to identifying specific assets that will be part of this program.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Great stuff.

  • I will leave it there.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Blake Fernandez, Howard Weill.

  • Blake Fernandez - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • I had a question for you on the refining downtime in the first quarter.

  • The release seems to suggest there was a bit of unplanned downtime, and I was hoping you could kind of address specifically the regions that is coming from and if that has been corrected heading into 2Q.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes.

  • It was really -- it's at different places, but predominantly it was at our Borger refinery and at our Sweeny refinery.

  • So, part of the Mid-Continent region and part of it out of the Gulf Coast region.

  • Yes, both those were incidents that occurred which caused us to take portions of the refinery down for a period of time.

  • And those things are both things that have been corrected.

  • We have unplanned downtime every quarter.

  • First quarter was a little bit higher than what we would normally expect from unplanned downtime.

  • And we put a number on that of around $50 million impact to R&M for the quarter.

  • Blake Fernandez - Analyst

  • Right.

  • Okay, great.

  • Thanks.

  • And then the second question for you was on your Permian acreage, the 1 million acres you have there.

  • Have you guys identified the amount of unconventional opportunity, whether it be Avalon or Bone Springs shale?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • We are working those areas actively.

  • But we haven't fully identified -- no, we haven't fully identified that yet.

  • Blake Fernandez - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Rakesh Advani, Credit Suisse.

  • Ed Westlake - Analyst

  • It's Ed Westlake here.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • I thought you changed your name.

  • Ed Westlake - Analyst

  • Yes, exactly.

  • Hey, just on the Eagle Ford and the Bakken volumes, can you just talk through how much of that volume already has a pipeline or a rail evacuation route already signed by Conoco in terms of your targets?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So, our current production is around a little over 20,000 barrels a day.

  • We have -- what, about 5,000 barrels a day, wasn't it, Clayton?

  • -- that is curtailed as we're working through evacuation.

  • We have plans in place to cater for the full Eagle Ford production, which we expect will be up at the 65,000, 70,000 barrel a day by in a couple of years.

  • So as we go through these next few time periods, there will be periods where we are little bit behind on infrastructure, but we're confident that by the time we get to 2013 and the volumes we think we're going to have there that we will have infrastructure to take that volume away.

  • Ed Westlake - Analyst

  • And in the short term, that is more rail and then as pipelines evolve, or --?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • It's both truck and it's -- I think it's everything.

  • And I think it's -- I don't know if we're using rail there.

  • I think it's primarily truck and pipe.

  • Ed Westlake - Analyst

  • Right.

  • And just on a follow-on, obviously we have an announcement yesterday from another refining -- I'm sorry, a pipeline coming from Cushing to Gulf.

  • What are your thoughts on, as a big Mid-Con refiner, as well as the Gulf Coast, that Keystone and the other PPD pipeline will be onstream by 2013?

  • What are the challenges they face?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Well, of course, Keystone XL faces the continuing permitting challenge to get that done.

  • We anticipate that that will occur and that the pipeline will be constructed in the next year and a half or so.

  • We get the question a lot about whether we should be reversing our Seaway products -- our Seaway pipeline, which runs from the Gulf Coast to Cushing.

  • That is something we will continue to evaluate.

  • But there is a solution plan now between Keystone XL, and the question is whether there will be incremental capacity required beyond that.

  • And we, along with a lot of other people, are studying that question.

  • Ed Westlake - Analyst

  • Right.

  • And then my final question, on the downstream, you've got better refining margins in Q2.

  • You will have your refineries hopefully back up onstream from the unplanned downtime.

  • That is good.

  • But what sort of negative impact are you seeing at this point from prices impacting demand and on the retail side?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • That's a good question.

  • We don't have as good a window into that as other companies do since we don't operate a retail marketing system.

  • We are a wholesaler for our refined products.

  • So we don't have any difficulty moving all the refined product that we can produce out of our refineries at market prices.

  • So we haven't seen any evidence of decreased demand.

  • But I'm not sure that we would be the ones to really see that since we don't operate a retail network.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, for us, I guess it would show up in the gasoline margins that we experience at the refineries.

  • Operator

  • Faisel Khan, Citigroup.

  • Faisel Khan - Analyst

  • On the refining side, if I am looking at the domestic earnings, if you could give us a little bit of color on the mix of those earnings, did most of that comes from the Gulf Coast Mid-Continent, and was the Northeast profitable this quarter?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes.

  • The strongest areas were the Mid-Con refining with the situation with WTI being what it is.

  • East Coast refining was still relatively challenged.

  • West Coast refining margins and Gulf Coast refining margins were actually stronger as well in the first quarter.

  • So, strength in the Midwest, more strength than we have seen recently in the West Coast, and East Coast was still a more difficult market.

  • Faisel Khan - Analyst

  • Would you say greater than 50% of your profits came from the Mid-Continent/Gulf Coast area?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Well, probably so.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, I would say that's a fair comment.

  • Faisel Khan - Analyst

  • Okay, got you.

  • And just looking at your bitumen price realization sequentially quarter to -- fourth quarter to first quarter, it looks like they were relatively flat for the consolidated Company, even though I think the market prices were higher.

  • If you could just help us understand what is going on there, or how are you getting your guys' bitumen to market, or how are those realizations being impacted by what is going on today?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So, yes, so I think we saw a widening of the differential between bitumen prices and crude oil prices during the quarter, which was part of what benefits refining as well.

  • There is no change into how we get our crude -- our bitumen to market.

  • There is no -- we're not constrained by any infrastructure constraints in moving that product to market.

  • So it is just the shift in differentials which caused -- which is the primary cause for the relatively flat bitumen prices compared to the increased crude oil prices.

  • Faisel Khan - Analyst

  • Okay, so you have no issues getting your product to market?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • No, no.

  • Yes, that is correct.

  • Faisel Khan - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And on Qatar gas, the LNG volumes, which way were those volumes flowing during the quarter?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • We don't go into -- provide detail on exact destinations of where our Qatari volumes have been flowing.

  • Faisel Khan - Analyst

  • Okay, got you.

  • That's it for me.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Paul Cheng, Barclays Capital.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Jeff or Clayton, on the Seaway, your ownership, the 50%, if your partner wanted to use the right of way to construct another set of pipeline to move from, say, Cushing down to the Gulf Coast, do you guys have the veto power to veto that or the right to veto that if you want to, or that is not part of your agreement?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, I don't know the details of that, Paul.

  • I would be surprised if they could since it would be a right of way that was owned by the company.

  • We have the ability to influence decisions of the company which owns the right away.

  • But I don't know the answer to that.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Clayton, is it possible that there is something you can share, you can check and get back to me?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • I think it's a question -- if there's a commercial aspect of it or there is negotiation that we're in the middle of, we probably don't want to disclose it.

  • But if it is public out there or it's part of some pipeline agreement that is in the public domain, I would be happy to.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • In your presentation, you indicate that the underlying sales decline in the first quarter -- from the first quarter last year to the first quarter this year is 187,000 barrels per day or about -- or maybe over 10% year over year.

  • Is that a reasonable base operation, the kind of run rate that we should assume?

  • Or there's a number of one-off incidents that make that number higher than we should use?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • No, I think that is similar to what we have talked about.

  • So, that number is just the unmitigated decline rate.

  • So it is similar to what you heard Ryan Lance and Greg Garland talking about at the analyst presentation in March.

  • That is kind of 10%, 11% of our production rate.

  • And then you can do things within those existing fields to bring that decline rate to more like 5%.

  • And then you can, with new projects, you can arrest the rest of that decline and have production growth.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • That would be the number before maintenance and exploitation capital.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • So this is before maintenance and exploitation.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, this is just unmitigated decline.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • And so what is the increase in production [in maintain] that the partial offset in your presentation, is that included in your new project, that the other column?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • That you show 187,000 -- that is including both the new project as well as the benefit from the maintenance work?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Correct.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Well, from exploitation work and is what -- I think of doing things within existing fields to capture additional production is included in the project's performance and other on the production chart.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Jeff, I was looking at, in your cash flow statement, you say the working capital is a use of cash of $2.1 billion.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • I thought in a rising oil price environment, because you have a longer grace period for the crude purchased and your account receivable, the grace period that you give to your customer, we should see working capital be a source of funding instead of a use of funds.

  • Am I missing something here?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, so there's lots of different impacts that are happening with working capital that are price driven that will balance out over time as prices -- as things catch up.

  • So, what we wanted to point out in the first quarter, though, was that we consciously chose to increase our inventory levels to facilitate some capturing of some margins in the marketplace that our commercial trading group had opportunities to do.

  • And that was a big driver of the working capital change in the first quarter.

  • And that is something that we could reverse if we chose to.

  • And typically we do allow our inventories to go up and down during the course of the year.

  • So you will see that that will reverse over time.

  • You could look at previous years and you will see a similar kind of pattern, where we will have usually inventory -- working capital negatives early in the year and working capital positives later in the year.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, another source of variance on working capital could also be taxes payable.

  • A couple times a year, we make a big tax payment, and so that number will be -- taxes payable will obviously be a source of funds.

  • And there's some variation that comes from that as well in a high-price environment.

  • But the big move this quarter was obviously inventory.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Okay, so this quarter's inventory is not taxed, even though there could be fluctuation factors in the future.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • That would be hundreds of millions of dollars.

  • It wouldn't be the magnitude that you are seeing this quarter.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Jeff, any insight that you can share with us on the Ekofisk redevelopment effort, where we are in the process, what kind of estimate, development costs on the actual, as well as on the per-barrel basis of the incremental reserve that you would be able to recover, and what kind of production impact?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • We don't -- nothing incremental to what we shared at the analyst presentation just about a month ago.

  • We do anticipate that sanction of the Ekofisk -- South Development Ekofisk 2 -- Eldfisk 2 will be among the major projects that we sanction this year.

  • They've got attractive both F&D and rates of return.

  • Over time, those are projects which will cause us to move from having a declining production -- well, first they arrest near-term decline in Norway, and ultimately will get Norway production to where it turns around and sees some slight increases.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, I think -- I don't think the -- what we said, $1.5 billion in capital in 2011 for North Sea.

  • So, sanctions this year, and then capital will ramp up in subsequent years.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Right.

  • Clayton, any kind of number that you can share?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • On total capital?

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • On the Ekofisk.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, I think we want to wait until we get to actually deciding what we're going to do on those projects.

  • Let us sanction the projects first and then come up with a total project capital number for you.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Okay, and final question.

  • There's some rumor on the industry newsletter that the Bohai Bay, the performance has not been up to their expectation and has been a little bit challenging.

  • I'm wondering, any comment you can give?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • There had been one particular platform in Bohai Bay which has been a challenge.

  • But that has been that way for several quarters now, and that's reflected in the production numbers that you have seen from Bohai.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Right.

  • What is the Bohai current production?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • What is it, 60?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, I would have to look at probably in our supplemental information.

  • I'm going to say it's around 50 or 60, but --

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • 50 to 60 net to you, right?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So, international, actually, out of China, it was 77 in the first quarter.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Right, but that is more than just Bohai or not?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • That is mostly -- well, yes, it's Bohai and Panyu as well.

  • Bohai, I don't know off the top of my head what Bohai is.

  • We can probably get back --

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Right, it's 90% of it.

  • It is most of that number.

  • Paul Cheng - Analyst

  • Okay, very good.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Iain Reid, Jefferies.

  • Iain Reid - Analyst

  • I've got a couple questions about Australia.

  • You're still trying to sell the second train.

  • I wonder if as part of this negotiation you're also going to sell a similar amount of equity and development that you have sold to Sinopec.

  • So could we see potentially being diluted down to below 40% in this development?

  • That's the first question.

  • Maybe I will hold on for the second one.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Okay.

  • So, yes, we are continuing to sell the second train.

  • The buyers we're talking to who are likely buyers on the second train will probably want some, perhaps some equity position.

  • Some of the buyers we're talking to do not want equity.

  • Some want a small equity position.

  • It would be unlikely that it would be an equity position of the size that Sinopec came into.

  • So it would be unlikely we would dilute substantially from where we are today.

  • Iain Reid - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And second question is, your partner, Origin, seems reluctant to confirm your costs for the overall development.

  • Do you have a kind of harder total development cost going forward from here for the LNG trains on the upstream development?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So, yes, I think you're going to get the same answer from us that you're going to get from Origin, that we're working through that as part of our decision on getting towards the final investment decision in the midpart of this year and that we will be able to give you more information on that once we have gotten to that point.

  • Iain Reid - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • I'll just try a last quick one.

  • Any update on the potential development of Poseidon?

  • And you're drilling a program in the Browse Basin which I think is starting around now?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • No, there's not really an update there.

  • We're still working through getting the permitting process done there.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • I think as Larry talked about, we were planning I think it's four appraisal wells around Poseidon and other discoveries in Browse.

  • I think the permitting is taking longer than we had hoped.

  • So I don't have a new time to give you right now on when we start the appraisal drilling around the discovery.

  • Iain Reid - Analyst

  • Okay, but those wells are actually being -- are appraising Poseidon rather than exploration wells on separate prospect?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • That's correct.

  • These are appraisal wells.

  • Iain Reid - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Mark Gilman, Benchmark.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • I had a couple things.

  • I just want to go back to that decline rate issue for a sec.

  • Jeff, I just thought you mentioned China both as a source of incremental production as well as a contributor to the decline.

  • Can you clarify that for me?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So we have declined --

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • From existing.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, so, yes, we did.

  • And we have a decline from existing production in Panyu and Xijiang -- well, Panyu, sorry.

  • And then the way we bucket these things is we have different -- we have wells and platforms in Bohai which may be in decline and new things we're bringing on in Bohai as well.

  • So, yes, I did mention it in both buckets.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • So Bohai itself all in is in both buckets?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Right.

  • But you can see overall production levels from China from the details that we give you in the international E&P page in the supplement.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • When you talk about -- this is just a point of clarification -- when you talk about declines at something like Bohai, that's ex-price-related entitlement effects, I assume?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • You know, we don't have large price-related entitlement effects.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • But you do at Bohai?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • We have some, but not -- but that is included in our decline numbers.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • So the PSC impact would be included in the numbers.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • So, in an environment like this, it is being overstated, Clayton, right?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Well, I don't know if -- it's just -- I guess whether or not it is a decline as a result of the terms or a decline as a result of the -- I guess the field life, we don't differentiate those two things in this graph.

  • That's right.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Hey, Jeff, regarding this trading-oriented inventory build, were there any LIFO inventory effects associated with it in your booked downstream earnings other than the $50 million in trading gains?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Not substantial in this quarter.

  • We can have, as we've talked about in previous quarters, exactly how physical inventory gets marked compared to how paper positions that are hedging, trading positions around that inventory get marked, there can be some noise around that from quarter to quarter.

  • This quarter, no, there were not a significant number there related to the inventory impacts.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Are those barrels in a separate pool?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Do you mean outside of R&M?

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Well, sort of as a separate pool within R&M, Clayton, what you're doing in terms of trading activity?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • We probably could take that discussion offline as far as the complexities around inventory accounting.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Are you talking about like a different layer?

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Well, not necessarily a different layer, Clayton.

  • I will take it offline.

  • Okay.

  • Last one for me, I just wanted to try to clarify some of the unconventional liquids production numbers.

  • Jeff or Clayton, I think a few moments ago you referenced a 20,000-a-day current number.

  • Is that just Eagle Ford, or is that all of the three unconventional liquids-rich plays?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • That is just Eagle Ford.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • How many wells is producing currently?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Out of Eagle Ford, I don't have that number.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Probably north of 50.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • 50 net wells?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • At least.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • If we include the other plays, the Bakken as well as the North Barnett, the current level of production would be roughly what?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • 50.

  • I think we do about -- I think we do, I don't know, somewhere between 15 and 20 out of the Bakken and probably between 10 and 15 out of North Barnett.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And remind me of the year-end objective?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • What do we want to be around, 70, 65 to 70?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Right, 65.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • You're talking about those three fields?

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Yes, those three plays.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, that is what we're talking about.

  • Mark Gilman - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Guys, thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • John Herrlin, Societe Generale.

  • John Herrlin - Analyst

  • Following up on Mark's shale question, what was sequential growth fourth quarter to first quarter for the shale plays volume-wise?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Well, most of the growth came out of Eagle Ford.

  • And I would say it's probably between 5000 and 10,000 barrels a day.

  • John Herrlin - Analyst

  • Okay, that's great.

  • Any change with Kenai in terms of the shutdown?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • In Kenai?

  • John Herrlin - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • I'm sorry, yes.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • As for shutdown on Kenai, I don't think we're -- I think there was additional cargo sold, but I don't think our -- I think the issue is availability of gas.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, we would -- obviously, there would be a market for that gas if we can produce it.

  • But, yes, with the decline in the Cook Inlet area, as Clayton says, it is mostly an issue with gas availability, and that compared to domestic demand in the Cook Inlet and the Anchorage area.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • So I don't really see any plans to prolong Kenai.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • If we do prolong it, it is just for a short period of time.

  • John Herrlin - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • No, that's fine.

  • Last one for me.

  • Regarding the trading that you're doing on the refining end, how much of a capital commitment is it?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So, it is all capital that we can choose to deploy or not deploy in that business.

  • So the inventory positions that we have can be taken out.

  • So it is not a long-term capital commitment in that business.

  • John Herrlin - Analyst

  • I was just trying to figure out how much you were swinging, that's all.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • So the swing in the first quarter was $2 billion in the downstream part of our business.

  • And that is a mix of inventories, payables, receivables, all those kinds of working capital impacts.

  • That is a fairly large swing for a particular quarter.

  • If you look historically, we have probably been more to the $1 billion to $1.5 billion swings in working capital in a quarter.

  • John Herrlin - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Pavel Malchanov, Raymond James.

  • Pavel Malchanov - Analyst

  • Just two quick ones.

  • One on Libya, I realize visibility there is pretty negligible, but do you have a sense of just the physical state of your assets in terms of damage, et cetera?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • No we do not.

  • Yes, we don't have a good -- we don't know production levels, physical state of the assets.

  • Really, we don't have good information coming out of Libya.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Our employees were -- we got our employees out, what, was it mid-February?

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, really before everything happened there.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, we really don't know.

  • Pavel Malchanov - Analyst

  • Okay, no, completely understood.

  • And then if I can get a quick update on your program in Poland.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Not much more to say than what we talked about as we were going through the presentation.

  • We've drilled a couple of wells there, vertical wells.

  • We're moving now to drill a horizontal well, and we will continue to just evaluate that program as we move forward.

  • Not a lot more we can say about it at this time.

  • Pavel Malchanov - Analyst

  • Very good.

  • Well, I'll try back in a couple months.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • [Hernon Liddell], CLSA.

  • Hernon Liddell - Analyst

  • I have a question on the international refining side.

  • We saw some realized margins went down quite sharply quarter on quarter, when market indicators went up.

  • What would be the reason for that?

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • So you're asking why international -- well, I'm not sure --

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, so maybe, in which segment again?

  • Hernon Liddell - Analyst

  • International refining (multiple speakers) went down 50%.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • So, our international refining, if you think about it, it is fairly limited.

  • It is the Humber refinery in the UK, the Melaka refinery in Malaysia, and then we have a joint-venture refinery in Germany.

  • Humber did well, but I'm not sure market indicators -- you're saying market indicators were higher in --

  • Hernon Liddell - Analyst

  • It went up in Singapore.

  • Singapore went up, Europe a little bit up, but your realized margin went down by 30% or more.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Yes, I don't have a good answer on that.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • Yes, we'd have to get back to you on that one.

  • Hernon Liddell - Analyst

  • We can talk later.

  • Jeff Sheets - SVP of Finance and CFO

  • I expect it has to do primarily with changes in co-product pricing, which are not part of the market indicators.

  • Hernon Liddell - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • That was our final question.

  • Clayton Reasor - VP of Corporate and Investor Relations

  • Okay.

  • Well, thanks, everybody, for listening.

  • Appreciate your interest.

  • These comments and transcript will be posted on our website along with the presentation material.

  • Thank you again.

  • Operator

  • Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

  • This concludes today's conference.

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