Clearwater Paper Corp (CLW) 2024 Q4 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by.

  • My name is Kelvin, and I will be your conference operator today.

  • At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Clearwater Paper Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Earnings Call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Sloan Bohlen, Head of Investor Relations.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Sloan Bohlen - Head of Investor Relations

  • Thank you, Kelvin.

  • Good afternoon, and thank you for joining Clearwater Paper's Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call.

  • Joining me on the call today are Arsen Kitch, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Sherri Baker, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

  • Financial results for the fourth quarter of 2024 were released shortly after today's market close.

  • You will find a presentation of supplemental information, including a slide providing the company's current outlook posted on the Investor Relations page of our website at clearwaterpaper.com.

  • Additionally, we will be providing certain non-GAAP financial information in this afternoon's discussion.

  • A reconciliation of the non-GAAP information to comparable GAAP information is included in the press release and in the supplemental information provided on our website.

  • Please note Slide 2 of the supplemental information covering forward-looking statements.

  • Rather than reading this slide we'll incorporate it by referencing it to our prepared remarks.

  • And with that, let me turn the call over to Arsen.

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Thank you for joining us, and good afternoon.

  • I'm going to structure my remarks today across threee key areas.

  • First, I'll provide a summary of our major strategic accomplishments in 2024.

  • Next, I'll discuss our fourth quarter performance, including our perspective on current industry conditions.

  • And lastly, I will outline our near- and long-term priorities, including actions that we're taking to reduce our cost structure.

  • I will then turn the call over to Sherri to provide additional details on our fourth quarter and full year results as well as our outlook for 2025.

  • Let's start with an overview of our strategic accomplishments in 2024.

  • We announced the planned acquisition of the Augusta paperboard facility in February of last year.

  • This was our first major step to transform Clearwater to premier independent paperboard packaging supplier in North America.

  • The Augusta acquisition increased our paperboard capacity by around 70% and improved our geographic footprint.

  • We closed the transaction on May 1 and are well on track to integrate the Augusta mill into our network.

  • We believe that this acquisition can contribute $140 million to $150 million of annual adjusted EBITDA to Clearwater once we capture volume synergies and assuming the industry returns to normalized cross-cycle utilization levels.

  • Within 3 short months of closing on the Augusta acquisition, we announced the planned sale of our tissue business for $1.06 billion.

  • Our team worked tirelessly over the last several years to improve our tissue business, leading to this outstanding outcome for Clearwater.

  • We completed the sale on November 1 and utilized the net proceeds to significantly delever our balance sheet.

  • These 2 deals transform Clearwater and position our company for future growth in paperboard.

  • I'm very proud of our team for these tremendous accomplishments in such a short period of time and look forward to the next chapter of our story.

  • Let me now turn the focus to our performance in the fourth quarter.

  • We delivered $21 million of adjusted EBITDA across total operations, which included 1 month of discontinued operations from our tissue business.

  • The quarter was impacted by Hurricane Helene, particularly operations at our Augusta facility.

  • The mill suffered some damage, which was then followed by a planned major maintenance outage that took place within a few weeks of the hurricane.

  • These events created a very challenging operating environment, which led to higher costs and operational disruptions.

  • The Augusta team did an outstanding job of recovering and the mill was back on track as of year-end.

  • As we've discussed throughout 2024, while market demand has continued to gradually improve, the industry continued to operate with utilization rates below historical averages, resulting in lower market pricing and margin pressure.

  • Lastly, our Board authorized a new $100 million share repurchase program, and we repurchased approximately $9 million of our shares through February 7 of this year.

  • Let me now provide some comments on market and industry conditions.

  • Let's start with demand.

  • Based on AF&PA data, industry shipments increased by 4% in 2024 versus 2023.

  • Demand is further projected to grow by 3% to 5% in 2025 based on various industry publications, returning to pre-COVID levels.

  • This supports our view that demand continues to recover, and we're optimistic about the long-term prospects for paperboard packaging.

  • Now let's turn to supply.

  • Industry utilization rates improved in 2024 to 85% versus 82% in 2023.

  • Net exports decreased by approximately 250,000 tons in total driven by increased global supply and competition.

  • North American capacity remained largely unchanged in 2024, although new industry capacity is forecasted to be added in 2025.

  • As we've discussed previously, we believe a balanced market will have utilization rates between 90% and 95%.

  • Let me provide you with an overview of the actions that we're taking to drive revenue growth and reduce our cost structure.

  • We recently signed a major long-term supply agreement with a customer that should help us fill out our open capacity and capture volume synergies from the Augusta acquisition.

  • We expect this volume to gradually ramp over the next several years.

  • We have incorporated this volume into our 2025 assumptions that Sherri will discuss in a moment.

  • In addition, we're taking actions to reduce our cost structure.

  • We're targeting $30 million to $40 million in cost savings in 2025 across SG&A and operations.

  • We took a major step in January with a 10% reduction in all positions across the company.

  • This action eliminated more than 200 positions in salaried and hourly roles.

  • We're also targeting spend reductions in other areas, including contractors, professional services and maintenance.

  • We expect benefits from these initiatives to ramp through the year.

  • We have also incorporated the impact of all these actions in our 2025 outlook.

  • Finally, we're continuing to explore ways to broaden our product offering to better service our converter customers.

  • We are focused on compostability, increasing the recycled content of our products and lightweighting to name a few.

  • We have product development efforts underway to deliver these solutions to our customers.

  • These are near-term initiatives, and we expect that they will require modest capital investments that fit into our overall capital outlook.

  • We're also exploring options to diversify into additional paperboard substrates.

  • This may include beverage carrier grades, white top or recycled board.

  • These are larger and longer-term investments that will likely take 24 to 36 months to execute.

  • We're kicking off market studies as well as engineering efforts to explore these options.

  • Let me conclude my comments by reiterating our view of the industry.

  • We operate in an inherently cyclical industry driven by supply and demand.

  • With demand being relatively stable, this balance is greatly impacted by changes in supply.

  • And across the cycle, we would expect utilization rates to average around 90% to 95%, while in an up cycle, these rates can exceed 95% with increasing margins.

  • SBS is currently in a down cycle, which we believe to be a temporary condition until supply and demand come back in the balance.

  • As we navigate the current environment, we're focused on actions that are within our control, including improving our operational performance, reducing cost and strengthening our product offering.

  • With that, let me turn the call over to Sherri for a more in-depth review of our financials.

  • Sherri Baker - Chief Financial Officer, Senior Vice President

  • Thank you, Arsen.

  • As Arsen mentioned earlier, we delivered $21 million of adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter down from $63 million in the previous year.

  • This decline was driven by 2 fewer months of contributions from the tissue business, which we divested on November 1.

  • The other sources of the decline were major maintenance expenses at our Augusta mill and lower paperboard pricing.

  • This was partly offset by higher sales and production volumes from the addition of the Augusta mill and lower input costs.

  • As we turn to the full year 2024, adjusted EBITDA from total operations was $182 million, down from $281 million in 2023.

  • The change in year-over-year results was predominantly driven by a $90 million impact from lower paperboard pricing. 2 fewer months of contribution from the tissue business also lowered our results versus 2023.

  • Partly offsetting these headwinds was additional volume as a result of our Augusta acquisition and some input cost deflation.

  • With the completion of the divestiture of our tissue business, we generated significant value.

  • When recognized a gain on the sale of the business of $307 million in Q4, contributing significantly to our full year net income.

  • We utilized the approximately $850 million of net proceeds to significantly delever our balance sheet and meaningfully reduce our debt.

  • For full year 2024, we reduced net debt by $199 million and as of year-end, we have $275 million of notes outstanding due in 2028 and a net leverage ratio of 1.1x.

  • Turning to our outlook for the first quarter of 2025.

  • In the first quarter, we expect to deliver $20 million to $30 million of adjusted EBITDA.

  • We will not incur planned major maintenance outage costs in the first quarter, and we'll continue to match supply to meet demand.

  • We expect approximately $4 million to $5 million in higher energy costs in the quarter due to higher seasonal pricing and usage.

  • This will also be our first full quarter as a paperboard only business with no tissue impact.

  • And as Arsen mentioned, we took initial actions to reduce our fixed costs in January, including a 10% reduction in all positions across the company.

  • We expect the savings from these actions to ramp throughout the year.

  • For full year 2025, we are making the following assumptions.

  • We expect a continued demand recovery but with utilization rates remaining low as the industry absorbs new capacity that is forecasted to come online beginning in Q2.

  • Our internal utilization rate is projected to be around 85% with expected revenue of approximately $1.5 billion to $1.6 billion as we benefit from a full year of incremental Augusta sales volume.

  • We are expecting that improved mill operating performance will offset pricing and inflation headwinds.

  • We are also expecting less impact from weather-related events and other operational disruptions that we experienced in 2024.

  • In addition to improved manufacturing performance, we are targeting $30 million to $40 million of fixed cost reduction with actions that should translate to an overall $40 million to $50 million annual run rate.

  • As previously announced, we are migrating to an annual major maintenance outage cadence, which we believe will lead to smaller, less costly and more predictable outages.

  • We expect to incur $40 million to $50 million of outage costs with the bulk of the cost coming from Lewiston in Q3 and Augusta in Q4.

  • We expect capital expenditures of $80 million to $90 million, which includes our projected $70 million to $80 million of annual maintenance CapEx plus additional carryover spend from our large projects that we will complete this year.

  • As Arsen noted and we stated last quarter, we remain confident in a market cycle recovery and our ability to deliver mid-cycle margins in the 13% to 14% range with free cash flow conversion of 40% to 50% which would produce more than $100 million in annual free cash flows.

  • I will close with a brief overview of our capital allocation philosophy.

  • Our first goal is to maintain and improve the performance of our assets. which will require approximately $70 million to $80 million of annual maintenance capital.

  • This excludes large strategic or replacement projects, which could add another $10 million to $20 million per year on average over the long term.

  • Please note that these additional expenditures are episodic and come in large increments.

  • We will communicate these large projects ahead of time, just like we did with the recovery boiler project in Lewiston and the emissions project in Cypress Bend in 2024.

  • Second, we aim to maintain a strong balance sheet with a net leverage ratio of 1 to 2x through the cycle.

  • We may temporarily go above or below that range to provide us with strategic flexibility.

  • Third, we aim to return capital to shareholders when it provides a better return than reinvesting in the business.

  • Let me now turn the call back over to Arsen for closing remarks.

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Thank you, Sherri.

  • I'll summarize where we are today.

  • We completed 2 major strategic transactions in 2024 that transform Clearwater into a paperboard focused company.

  • We're now focused on strengthening our position as an independent supplier of paperboard packaging products to North American converters.

  • We will look for opportunities to expand our product offering, which may include new applications for existing paperboard as well as new substrates.

  • We have a well-invested asset base and a strong balance sheet that will help us weather this part of the industry cycle.

  • We remain optimistic about the medium to long-term prospects for our industry and our company.

  • As a result, we expect strong margins and cash flows through the cycle and aim to strategically deploy capital to create long-term shareholder value.

  • Finally, I'd like to thank our people for their efforts to remain focused on operating safely and providing excellent service to our customers during this time of change and transition.

  • I would also like to thank our customers for putting their trust in us and our shareholders for their continued interest.

  • With that, we'll open it up to your questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Matthew McKellar from RBC Capital Markets.

  • Matthew McKellar - Analyst

  • Hi, good afternoon.

  • Thanks for taking my questions.

  • Maybe first starting with -- just starting with the new agreements you mentioned, recognize that is supposed to ramp over several years.

  • But are you able to help us get a better sense of how meaningful those incremental volumes could be over time or what the shape of that ramp-up curve looks like?

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah, So we incorporated into our '25 volume assumptions.

  • This was part of our assumption set that we were contemplating with the Augusta acquisition.

  • So it's going to take several years to ramp, but it should provide us with enough volume to fill out our open capacity and capture Augusta synergies.

  • And Matthew, if you recall, when we purchased Augusta, the mill was approximately 70% full, which provides us with approximately 150,000 to 200,000 tons of open capacity.

  • So I think it provides you a bit of an idea of what this could look like over the long run.

  • Matthew McKellar - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • That's helpful.

  • And maybe one other kind of cleanup just in your opening remarks there.

  • You talked about you're expecting improving operating performance to help offset the pricing and inflation headwinds which in your, I think, initial 2025 assumptions, you kind of dimensionalized is $40 million to $50 million year-over-year.

  • Just wanted to, I guess, make sure I'm understanding the moving parts here.

  • Are you expecting, I guess, incremental benefits now versus your initial assumptions around how you run your mill system?

  • Or I just wanted to make sure we're thinking about that message in the correct way.

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I think there's probably 3 areas to think about.

  • I think the first area is improving operational performance.

  • As you mentioned, that should offset that -- those price and cost headwinds.

  • I mean we talked about $40 million to $50 million last quarter.

  • The next set of improvement will come from, hopefully, fewer disruptions due to the major weather events that we experienced in 2024.

  • Hard to predict, but it's also hard to imagine having such 2 large events like we did last year in Lewiston and Augusta.

  • And the third bucket is the $30 million to $40 million of cost reductions that we're pursuing.

  • And we took actions here in January to capture some of those savings.

  • So I think those are the 3 buckets of improvement that we're expecting in '25 versus 2024.

  • Matthew McKellar - Analyst

  • That's very helpful.

  • Maybe sticking with those headcount reductions and other fixed cost savings.

  • Are you expecting much benefit from those initiatives in Q1?

  • Or does that really start to show up in Q2?

  • Sherri Baker - Chief Financial Officer, Senior Vice President

  • It would be, I'd say, a modest amount that you'll see in Q1.

  • It will start to ramp more through Q2 with the, I'd say, the bulk of the savings really happening in the second half of the year.

  • Matthew McKellar - Analyst

  • And then just backing up a little bit here.

  • If the U.S. applies tariffs to Mexico and Canada and they apply reciprocal tariffs in return, what do you think the impact to the SBS market would be?

  • Or I mean, SBS and other grades you consider yourself competing against and then how are you thinking change if we also see tariffs on the European Union?

  • I realize there's a lot of moving parts there and a lot of ambiguity, but just any high-level thoughts would be helpful.

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah, So let me talk about how it potentially could impact us.

  • We purchased some of our supplies from Canada chemicals and pulp would be 2 good examples.

  • We do some export into Mexico and a little bit into Canada.

  • So there will be an impact that we would feel, but it will primarily come from higher costs passed on to us from our chemical suppliers potentially and pulp suppliers.

  • Our goal in that scenario would be to pass on those cost increases to our customers.

  • But it's kind of -- it's hard to predict how all those tariffs and the flows would be impacted by these tariffs.

  • So that's how we think about impact on Clearwater.

  • It's higher cost to us, which we would then pass on to our customers.

  • We're primarily a domestic supplier.

  • So there could be some impact in the global flow of paperboard, but it's really hard to predict what that would look like.

  • Matthew McKellar - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • That's fair.

  • And if I get one more in.

  • Obviously, your balance sheet is in a great place now.

  • And I recognize there are options you're considering that you could have to put some capital against over the medium term.

  • But where the stock is today, do you think you have more room to get aggressive on the share repurchases versus I think the $9 million you've done since November?

  • Or how are you thinking about that option for capital allocation?

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I think what we said all along is we'd be opportunistic buyers of our shares when they trade at a sufficient discount to what we think our intrinsic value is.

  • Our top priority remains investing in our assets and maintaining a strong balance sheet.

  • And as we see our cash flow generation in 2025, I think we'll make adjustments to the share buyback program.

  • But again, it's -- we view this as an investment, but our top 2 priorities are investing back into our assets to maintain their competitiveness and also to maintain a really strong balance sheet.

  • Matthew McKellar - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • That's great.

  • And if I could do one more, just looking at how demand has started the year here versus maybe where you saw things trend in Q4.

  • Any comments on what you're seeing, any differences across folding carton versus cup and plates?

  • Any other trends to call out here?

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah, I think this is maybe a little bit anecdotal, but the conversations we're having with our customers are positive.

  • I think they're expecting '25 to be a better year than '24.

  • I would also tell you that some of our food service demand is more robust than our folding carton demand.

  • In fact, we are on several of our machines -- on a couple of our machines, we are close to being sold out, especially on what I'd call extruded products, so think cup.

  • We're essentially being pretty close to being sold out.

  • So it really depends on the category, but we're seeing some hopeful signs of demand continue to recover.

  • Matthew McKellar - Analyst

  • Okay, great, thanks for all the color.

  • I'll turn it back.

  • Arsen Kitch - President, Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • There are no further questions at this time, and with that, ladies and gentlemen, that concludes your conference call.

  • We thank you for participating and ask that you please connect your lines.