Asure Software Inc (ASUR) 2011 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Assure Software's corporate conference call. My name is Mary and I will be your coordinator for today. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will facilitate a question and answer session towards the end of today's presentation.

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Sheryl Trbula of Asure Software. Please proceed.

  • Cheryl Trbula - IR

  • Thank you, Mary, and welcome everyone to Asure Software's conference call. Before we start I'd like to mention that some of the statements made by management during this call might include projections, estimates and other forward-looking information. This will include any discussion of the Company's business outlook.

  • These particular forward-looking statements and all of the statements that may be made on this call that are not historical are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could affect their outcome. You are urged to consider the risk factors relating to the Company's business contained in our latest periodic reports on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These risk factors are important and they could cause actual results to differ materially.

  • This call is also being recorded on behalf of Asure Software and is copyrighted material. It cannot be recorded or rebroadcast without the Company's express permission, and your participation implies consent to the call's recording. After we've completed our review of the quarter, we'll open up the call for questions from the financial analyst community.

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Pat Goepel, CEO of Asure Software. Pat?

  • Pat Goepel - President, CEO

  • Thanks, Cheryl, and I'd like to welcome investors, partners, clients, employees and interested parties of Asure Software. We hope that you're please with third quarter results. In our press release we announced that we have third quarter results of $0.06 per share excluding one-time items, $0.01 all-in if you will, and our EBITDA was $4.62 excluding one-time items.

  • So we were very pleased with the financial results, and Dave Scoglio will talk about that in greater detail. But we're also excited about the progress we made this quarter. Asure is becoming a very predictable business, a very strong business, and a business that is starting to get its growth legs underneath it and we're excited about that.

  • Some activities in the quarter that we're excited about is first of all we'd like to welcome the good folks of ADI Time out of Warwick, Rhode Island. We made an acquisition on October 1st. A lot of the activity or the due diligence of that acquisition happened in the third quarter and we were very excited to close on October 1st the ADI acquisition.

  • We think this strategic acquisition will help us in the time and attendance marketplace a great deal. We had products and services that were addressing the small and middle market in the white-collar environment, and now we have products and services that will enable us to serve all marketplaces. ADI was very strong in the blue and gray collar, and they were very strong in the area of clocks and biometric clocks, and so we're excited about offering that complete solution to our clients and our prospects in the marketplace. So that was a significant milestone in the future of Asure, and we'd like to welcome all the employees.

  • Also from a marketplace we developed a new website. It's just been launched now and many of the developments that happened in the third quarter were launched on Monday. You will be able to see that new website on AsureSoftware.com. We've also been very active in mobile products and mobile product development, and our clients have been asking (technical difficulty) and we think this will solidify many multi-year partnerships with them.

  • Speaking of clients, we won many clients this quarter and we're excited about that. First of all, Public Broadcasting Services or PBS was a new client of NetSimplicity this quarter. US Army Reserves, Johns Hopkins Hospital, California State College as well. Notre Dame High School and Max Properties joined the iEmployee family and we're proud of those client relationships.

  • Bookings were very strong in iEmployee where we had another quarter of double-digit revenue grow or booking growth especially in the cloud-based offerings. NetSimplicity was a little bit of a tougher compare. We anticipate returning to double-digit bookings in the fourth quarter.

  • Our partnerships with Oasis and Novera yielded results in the third quarter and we're proud of those partnerships. We also see continued growth in the fourth quarter with both of those partnerships. I'd also like to remind investors that we have about 15 partners with the ADI transaction, and now we have more products and services to offer them and we're very excited about those conversations going into the fourth quarter. One of the clients early on that added more business with us was Sun-Maid Raisins and we're very excited about that client engagement.

  • Our repetitive revenue transformation is continuing with about 80% topline revenue now on a repetitive revenue basis, and our deferred revenue is up very strongly and we're very proud of that metric and that transformation of the business. So that's going to bode well as we have a discussion about next quarter and next year, and we'll do that after Dave Scoglio talks more specifically about this quarter. Our cash and collection metrics were very strong and Dave will expand on that as well.

  • And finally visibility to continued earnings is getting much clearer for us. We're going to talk about 2012 guidance, and we're excited about the topline growth that the acquisition and the organic growth is bringing us. So from an investor perspective I hope you feel really good about the Asure story. We are continuing to build on it and grow and we're very, very proud of where we're at and we think the best news is yet to come for Asure Software.

  • With that I'll turn the discussion over to Dave Scoglio, our CFO, who will talk about the very specific results we had this quarter. And Dave, why don't you take it from here.

  • Dave Scoglio - CFO

  • Thanks, Pat. I'm going to take a few minutes to go over the third quarter financial highlights and I'll be happy to answer any and all questions during the Q&A session at the end of the call.

  • In the third quarter revenue at $2.5 million grew by 3% over the last quarter driven by higher recurring revenue, particularly our cloud-based revenue stream. Both iEmployee and NetSimplicity posted increases sequentially at 2% and 4% respectively.

  • As Pat mentioned, recurring revenue was flat at 80% sequentially and grew by 8% compared to the comparable quarter of 2010.

  • Pat talked a little bit about NetSimplicity cloud bookings and iEmployee cloud bookings. iEmployee did post strong sequential growth at 24%, and from a total bookings perspective iEmployee was positive both sequentially and compared to 2010 third quarter at 39% and 22% respectively.

  • As Pat mentioned, EBITDA excluding one-time items was at $462,000. All-in we were at $302,000 which was a 28% improvement over a year ago.

  • Gross margin increased by 5% to 81% in the third quarter versus the comparable quarter of 2010 and declined by 1% sequentially due to much higher hardware revenue this quarter which amounted to almost double that of last quarter.

  • From an expense basis we were down slightly around 44 basis points over a year ago, and this is really due to the management team's continued focus on cost control in a post-turnaround environment.

  • On the balance sheet we have additional gains, as well. We're happy to report our fifth straight quarter of improvements in quick ratio and cash. Cash grew to over $2.7 million, up 35% from last quarter, and our quick ratio 5 basis points sequentially. Both metrics I just presented are excluding the ADI acquisition funding that we received on the last day of the quarter for our 10/1 close. Additionally, deferred revenue as Pat mentioned grew 13% sequentially and 36% over a year ago.

  • As outlined in this morning's press release, we have updated our earnings guidance. We're forecasting profitability for both the fourth quarter and the full year of 2011. We expect Q4 EBITDA excluding one-time items to fall within the range of $540,000 to $630,000, up from previous guidance of $290,000 to $410,000. Q4 revenue with the addition of ADI Time is expected to fall between $3.53 million and $3.63 million.

  • Lastly, as Pat mentioned, we'll be presenting at many upcoming investor conferences and the full presentation is available on today's 8-K filing.

  • At this time I'd like to turn the discussion back to our CEO, Pat Goepel, for closing comments and questions.

  • Pat Goepel - President, CEO

  • Thanks, Dave. And I hope the investors and interested parties are pleased with the fourth quarter and some of the positive momentum that we're attaining. I'd also like to highlight a few things in addition to what Dave spoke about.

  • One is we're guiding for a fourth quarter that's going to be positive all-in, and what's significant about that is we're also guiding that for the year Asure will be positive. This is a significant milestone. As a management team and an investor and a board member I take this -- I take the positive momentum and the results of being positive in earnings to heart, and we have striven -- driven to this result really over the last two years and we're proud to put a stake in the ground that we're going to make it and that sets us up very well for next year.

  • We're going to integrate the acquisition of ADI in the fourth quarter. We've given that guidance. We've been on several partnership calls and we're really excited about topline growth and we want to grow topline growth. As a small-cap company, we know that as you -- your first stake is profitability and fixing the business model. We think we have achieved that. Now we're really going after growth, and the early winds of the ADI transaction are apparent and we're excited about building on that for the future.

  • For next year we did have a stake in the ground of $15.5 million in revenue and $2.8 million in EBITDA so we feel good about that guidance. We also feel that from a product perspective we're enhancing our mobile applications, our cloud-based applications. We see the move to the cloud as the long-term vision of Asure and we feel like we're making great progress and we'll continue to make great progress in 2012 towards that goal.

  • Finally I'd like to remind people that we have net operating losses that go out to year 2029. They're significant, well over $100 million, so as we get profitable we grow under the current environment tax-free, and we think that's a very positive aspect to the Asure story.

  • Dave mentioned that I will be out at some investor conferences. Red Chip is the 9th in New York, and the SRE Stock Conference which is a growth stock story in San Francisco will allow us to have some West Coast visibility and we'll be there on the 15th of November. And many of the investors that I've talked to wanted opportunities to talk with management because they're excited about the story. And I think the first two years we really spent a lot of time fixing the business, getting the business right, and now as we look towards the fourth quarter in 2012, we are going to tell our story to the small-cap investors and the growth investors because we have a good story to tell.

  • So with that I want to thank all the employees that work very hard at Asure every day. They've been part of a two-year (technical difficulty) and their results are really starting to pay off, and I thank them and their families for their tireless efforts. From a client perspective, we have great clients and I'm excited that they've hung with us in the transition and they're reaping the rewards of great client service, and we really have a partnership with our clients. I'm excited about the acquisition. It gives us a new story to tell and our prospects for Asure are bright.

  • At this point in time I'm going to turn it over for questions to see what questions we have, and I want to thank you for your interest in Asure.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) We do have a question from Mike Chadwick who is a private investor.

  • Mike Chadwick - Private Investor

  • Hello, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my question today.

  • Pat Goepel - President, CEO

  • Sure, Mike.

  • Mike Chadwick - Private Investor

  • Congratulations by the way on what I call a very significant quarter. Looking forward to the future with Asure. In terms of the ADI acquisition, after reconciling out the payments and so forth, can you share with us what the current cash balance is at Asure as of today?

  • Dave Scoglio - CFO

  • We don't usually give those kinds of updates, Mike. We don't usually do that, Mike.

  • Mike Chadwick - Private Investor

  • Okay, fair enough. Okay. And then in terms of the NOLs, I'm not sure if you can answer that as well. You mentioned $100 million in NOLs, Pat, roughly, and so I was just wondering if you can disclose at this point what the expected impact to the NOLs was from the ADI acquisition and how much we might have remaining.

  • Pat Goepel - President, CEO

  • First of all, Mike, the NOL impact, we have done some cash flow models and we feel that the net asset of the NOL is roughly $8 million to $10 million going out into the future. We've posted five-year plans back in January at the Sidoti conference. We have a long way to go to still use up those NOLs. That being said, we feel that we're positive and we've announced guidance already of $2.8 million. We'll have further refined guidance next quarter as we talk to net income and we get through some valuation and depreciation as it relates to net income.

  • So we feel that 2011, the fourth quarter, I agree with you. The third quarter was a significant stake in the ground. We also feel that 2012 we'll start using those NOLs, and as we continue to grow we want to use them more each and every year. But we have plenty of NOLs left. As far as losing any NOLs, they run off in various years, but it was important to note that the way we structured the deal, we didn't lose any NOLs based on this acquisition.

  • On the cash aspect, what I would say is, Mike, while we don't release a specific number, I am very encouraged by the cash flow as a result of the ADI acquisition. ADI, we bought that company to be accretive and to be cash flow positive on its own, and you've seen the metrics around the cash flow. I'll remind you that if you look at the last five quarters, we were 100 and change, 200 and change, 300 and change, 650 and now close to 700, so we've been increasing our cash flow each quarter. There's no reason to think we can't continue to do that both with the acquisition and without. So we've taken on debt for the first time but our cash remains very strong.

  • Mike Chadwick - Private Investor

  • Okay. No, that's great, and I appreciate the updates and again congratulations. I'm looking forward to the future with Asure.

  • Dave Scoglio - CFO

  • Great. And, Mike, I appreciate your support as an individual investor as well as your long-term support of Asure.

  • Mike Chadwick - Private Investor

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. (Operator Instructions) If there are no further questions, I'd now like to turn the conference back over to the speakers for any additional remarks.

  • Pat Goepel - President, CEO

  • Thank you for your time today. We really appreciate the opportunity to tell the Asure story. We feel really good about the position we're in and we thank you for your help in getting there. We are going to tell our story out in New York and San Francisco. Also I'm available if you want to have an investor call.

  • We're excited about the Asure story and to our employees, clients, partners, we want to thank you for helping us get to this point and we want to thank you in advance for the Company that this will be. So that's it today. Thanks so much. Bye now.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. Thank you and have a great day.