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  • Operator

  • Good morning, my name is Paula, and I will be your conference facilitator.

  • At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to The Wendy's Company first-quarter earnings results call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • This call is being recorded, and access instructions will be provided via email after the call.

  • Thank you.

  • I will now turn the call over to your host, Mr. David Poplar, Vice President, Investor Relations.

  • Sir, you may begin.

  • David Poplar - VP of IR

  • Thank you, and good morning.

  • Our conference call today will cover comments from our President and Chief Executive Officer, Emil Brolick, who will highlight our key initiatives, and provide an update on the progress we are making on our brand transformation.

  • After Emil, our Chief Financial Officer, Todd Penegor, will review our first-quarter financial results, and outlook.

  • After that, we will open up the phone line for questions.

  • Today's conference call and webcast includes a Powerpoint presentation, which is available on the Investors section of our website, www.aboutWendys.com.

  • Before we begin, I would like to refer you, for just a minute, to the Safe Harbor statement in our earnings release.

  • Certain information we may discuss today is forward-looking.

  • Various factors could affect our results, and cause those results to differ materially from the projections set forth in our forward-looking statements.

  • Also, some of the comments today will reference non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, and adjusted earnings per share.

  • Investors should refer to our reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure.

  • With that, I will now turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Emil Brolick.

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone.

  • In the first quarter, we continued our brand transformation journey, as we saw the continued strengthening of The Wendy's Company economic model, and continued improvement of our restaurant-level economic model, which is critical to our franchise operators.

  • Brand relevance and economic model relevance are the two major forces that enable us to create value for our franchisees, which, in turn, enables us to provide a compelling income and growth investment scenario for our shareholders.

  • Our first-quarter efforts and results reflected continued progress and commitment to all elements of our growth model.

  • As a predominantly North American system, growing our domestic same-restaurant sales is fundamental to our success, and we are building a strong history of consecutive quarters of positive comparable sales.

  • Central to our success is our heritage of food quality that began with our founder, Dave Thomas, and which uniquely positions Wendy's to deliver our Cut Above brand position.

  • This brand position provides consumers a new QSR quality experience at a QSR price, creating a value proposition that differentiates Wendy's.

  • Our recipe to win brings this Cut Above brand positioning to life through all elements of the brand experience.

  • Our goal is that every aspect of the Wendy's brand experience communicates a Cut Above.

  • And customers are telling us this is what they are experiencing when they visit our Image Activation restaurants.

  • Consumers are experiencing bold restaurant designs, striking new packaging, friendlier restaurant teams, and innovative menu items, such as our current promotion, the jalapeno fresco spicy chicken sandwich and ghost-pepper fries, which are performing very well.

  • Through the execution of all elements of our recipe to win, we are transforming the Wendy's brand and re-igniting latent brand equities to drive sales, customer count and profit growth.

  • As we look at our first-quarter performance, we see that our brand positioning is translating into results.

  • North American system-wide sales increased 3.2%.

  • This includes a 2.6% increase at North American Company-operated restaurants, which we achieved with no incremental pricing.

  • While Company sales were slightly below our expectations, our North American Company-operated restaurants generated a 160-basis-point increase in restaurant margin.

  • Our adjusted EBITDA and EPS results were in line with our expectations, and our adjusted EBITDA margins improved 360 basis points.

  • This expansion in adjusted EBITDA margin reflects the positive impact of our system optimization initiative, which includes increased royalties and rental income, along with a significant reduction in G&A expenses.

  • Finally, our previously announced recapitalization is on schedule, and we plan to provide our updated 2015 and long-term guidance on June 3. This will reflect the impact of our planned sale of our bakery operations, our anticipated debt refinancing, and our intent to return the net proceeds to shareholders via a share repurchase program.

  • Growing North American same-restaurant sales is fundamental to achieving margin targets and enhancing the restaurant-level economic model for our franchise operators.

  • To this end, we continue to refine our marketing model, using a balance of core, limited-time-only offers, and price value messages.

  • Wendy's has significant latent brand equities, which we can tap into more effectively.

  • We are proud of our heritage of product innovation, providing consumers exciting taste variety, with products such as our pretzel bacon cheeseburger, bacon portabella melt on brioche, and now our jalapeno fresco chicken sandwich.

  • We will continue this heritage of playing a different game through product innovation, but with better balance with core messages.

  • The area of price value is a work in progress.

  • The goal is profitable customer count growth through value initiatives consistent with our Cut Above brand position and expanding restaurant-level margins.

  • Our first-quarter marketing calendar reflects the continued evolution of our marketing mix.

  • We began the year by promoting a core product, our outstanding Asiago ranch chicken club.

  • Then, featured our bacon and blue cheeseburger on brioche, which is an LTO, and finished the quarter by promoting our core salads with an ad campaign that reflected a more targeted approach to highlighting what makes Wendy's different and what makes Wendy's better.

  • That being superior freshness, quality, and the taste of our products.

  • You can also expect us to continue to use value promotions as secondary messages throughout the year to drive profitable customer traffic growth and expand restaurant margins.

  • As we look to the balance of year, we are optimistic about our marketing calendar, with exceptional products such as our current limited-time offer, the jalapeno fresco spicy chicken sandwich and ghost-pepper fries.

  • This promotion has exceeded our expectation to date, and underscores the importance of differentiating the Wendy's brand on the basis of product quality, innovation and core equities.

  • Innovation is an essential component of our Cut Above brand positioning.

  • Our focus is not on playing the same game better.

  • Our focus is on playing the different game.

  • Another point of differentiation for us is our Image Activation re-imaging initiative, where we continue to produce a robust pipeline that is consistent with our 2015 target of 450 system-wide re-images.

  • We are seeing franchise adoption of Image Activation accelerating in 2015, as we announced in October 2014 that we are requiring all of our franchisees to re-image 60% of their total restaurant portfolio by 2020.

  • The vast majority of franchisees have submitted a plan to hit this target, and many are taking advantage of our turn-key construction services, called Franchise Development Program, where, for a fee that just covers our costs, we manage their Image Activation projects.

  • We continued to offer an incentive program comprised of royalty relief that lasts anywhere from 12 to 24 months depending upon the type of re-image.

  • New restaurant development is also critical to enhancing brand access, and assuring relevance to all demographic groups.

  • Our plans call for the Wendy's system to build 80 new restaurants this year, which is the most in eight years.

  • And we plan to build 1,000 new restaurants, excluding closures, by 2020.

  • We expect to achieve net positive North American restaurant growth by 2016, which will be the first time since 2010 that we have achieved this.

  • We remain encouraged that the average sales volume of our new restaurants continue to be much stronger than our previous design options, as Image Activation restaurants open at about $1.9 million AUVs on average, which is an improvement of about $300,000 compared to the previous design.

  • As we move to a 95% franchise model, we know that the new restaurant growth will be a key to our future growth.

  • Continuing to improve ROI of new restaurants is an ongoing quest, and a key to strong new restaurant development.

  • While new restaurants are an important aspect of increasing brand access, we also consider consumer-facing technology to be the number-one way to enhance brand access.

  • Accordingly, we are investing in platforms such as mobile payment, mobile ordering, and customer self-order kiosks, which have the potential to provide benefits such as consumer convenience, increased customer counts, higher check, faster speed of service, and a seamless brand experience.

  • These initiatives are essential elements of our strategy to increase brand relevance to all demographic groups.

  • We clearly see a move toward more of a self-service economy, and everyone wins in this.

  • As Todd will describe in more detail, our financial management strategies are on track.

  • We remain on schedule to complete our debt refinancing on June 1, and we are targeting a leverage ratio of 5 to 6 times our 2014 adjusted EBITDA.

  • We also announced today our intent to return the net proceeds from our refinancing to shareholders via a share repurchase program.

  • We expect to provide more information, including updated guidance reflecting these initiatives, on June 3.

  • Additionally, we believe our previously announced system optimization initiative will drive future growth by providing opportunities for expanded restaurant ownership to strong operators who have a demonstrated commitment to Image Activation and opening new restaurants.

  • The sale of our domestic restaurants will significantly reduce future capital expenditure requirements, as reflected in our long-term free cash flow outlook.

  • Given the success of our first phase of the system optimization initiative, we have re-engaged The Cypress Group to assist with the divestiture of the 540 remaining domestic restaurants targeted for sale to franchisees.

  • Going forward, we intend to buy and sell restaurants opportunistically, to act as a catalyst for growth by further strengthening our franchise base, driving development, and accelerating Image Activation adoption.

  • We also announced today that we plan to divest our bakery operations, a non-current asset.

  • We believe this divestiture will provide us with greater sourcing flexibility, as our use of artisan buns has increased with our premium limited-time-only offers.

  • In addition, the divestiture will focus our resources on our core restaurant business, and eliminate future bakery capital expenditures.

  • We expect the transaction to close in May.

  • In summary, we believe our strategic growth priorities have positioned us to continue to deliver value to our shareholders and franchisees through continued improvement in the Company and franchise economic model, by strengthening the franchise system through optimizing ownership for efficiency, by facilitating growth through Image Activation and new restaurant development.

  • We are enhancing our quality of earnings and adjusted EBITDA margins, and we are creating flexibility for sustainable, predictable long-term growth.

  • And, as we previously announced, we are adjusting our capital structure to accelerate our annual long-term adjusted EPS growth to approximately 20%.

  • And now, here is Todd.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Thank you, Emil.

  • I will start with the financial highlights from the first quarter.

  • System-wide, same-restaurant sales increased 3.2% during the first quarter of 2015.

  • Same-restaurant sales increased 2.6% at Wendy's North America Company-operated restaurants in the first quarter, while same-restaurant sales increased 3.4% at North American franchise-operated restaurants.

  • Higher sales at re-imaged Image Activation restaurants contributed to Company-operated, same-restaurant sales results, primarily from increased customer counts.

  • Our North American Company-operated restaurant margin improved 160 basis points.

  • The increase was the result of benefits from our Image Activation and system optimization programs, along with continued tight management of controllable expenses, partly offset by a 160-basis-point increase in commodity costs, primarily for fresh beef.

  • General and administrative expenses was $60.3 million, compared to $70.4 million.

  • The 14.3% decrease resulted primarily from cost savings related to our system optimization initiative and our 2014 resource realignment initiative, along with lower equity compensation expense.

  • Adjusted EBITDA was $84 million, an 11.6% increase compared to $75.3 million a year ago.

  • Adjusted EBITDA margin was 18%, compared to 14.4%.

  • The 360-basis-point improvement reflects the positive impact of the first phase of our system optimization initiative, including increased royalties and rental income, along with the reduction in G&A expense.

  • Finally, adjusted earnings per share were $0.06, an increase of 20% compared to $0.05.

  • Let's take a look at our adjusted EBITDA bridge for the quarter.

  • Remember that our comparable 2014 first-quarter results of $75.3 million exclude $12 million in pre-tax gains, primarily from the sale of restaurants previously not included in our system optimization initiative.

  • Off of this base, we continue to deliver strong quality of earnings, as we realized about $10 million in G&A savings, about $5 million in increased royalties and net rental income, about $4 million in core EBITDA growth, and about $2 million from Image Activation.

  • Partly offsetting these benefits were a $5-million reduction in franchise revenue due to lower technical assistance fees from the year-over-year reduction in the number of restaurants sold, and $8.5 million in lost EBITDA from the sale of restaurants.

  • The result is 2015 first-quarter adjusted EBITDA of $84 million.

  • This year, we expect the Wendy's system to open 80 new restaurants, which will be the highest number in the past eight years.

  • We also remain on target to hit our goal of 450 re-images this year.

  • Due to the expected sale of certain Company operating restaurants identified for re-imaging in 2015, we now expect our 2015 CapEx to be approximately $250 million to $260 million, a decrease of about $15 million relative to our initial projections.

  • We continue to see encouraging returns from our Image Activation re-images.

  • And many of our franchisees are taking advantage of our joint capital planning process to capitalize on this program.

  • As a result, they are accelerating their participation in 2015 by leveraging our suite of re-imaging solutions, which includes scrape and rebuilds, the ultra-modern standard design with customizable upgrades, and our new refresh option.

  • One important thing to note is that the franchisee involvement in refining our design has been very helpful.

  • And we believe that our collaborative approach with our franchisees supports the momentum that is building around growth.

  • We continue to expect to see 60% of our system-wide restaurants in an Image Activation design by 2020.

  • During the first quarter, we announced the details of the third phase of our system optimization strategy, and franchisee interest in purchasing our restaurants is very strong.

  • We now intend to sell a total of approximately 380 restaurants in 2015, including the previously announced sale of 100 Canadian restaurants, and approximately 260 restaurants in 2016, for a total of approximately 640 restaurants.

  • We expect to sell the remaining restaurants in Canada before the end of June 2015.

  • The sale of domestic restaurants will begin in the second half of 2015.

  • We believe the sale of these 540 restaurants will result in a pre-tax cash proceeds of approximately $400 million to $475 million, and significantly reduce future capital expenditure requirements, as reflected in our long-term free cash flow outlook.

  • On June 3, we will provide updated guidance that incorporates the impact of our anticipated bakery disposition, recapitalization, and share repurchase program.

  • In the meantime, we are reaffirming our 2015 adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA outlook.

  • This includes a reaffirmation of our G&A guidance of approximately $250 million.

  • We also adjusted some components of our guidance, including revising our Company-operated, same-restaurant sales outlook for the year from approximately 3% to a range of 2.5% to 3%.

  • We are also lowering our CapEx outlook, and we are raising our Company-operated restaurant margin outlook to reflect expected easing in our commodity forecast.

  • Finally, our reported tax rate is tracking to come in slightly lower than expected, which reflects increased visibility into the restaurants we plan to sell in the back half of the year.

  • As Emil mentioned, our recapitalization is on track for completion on June 1, and in line with the targets we previously articulated.

  • We believe that our debt refinancing will increase our financial flexibility, as our dividend strategy and system optimization plans remain on track.

  • We also announced today that we intend to use the net proceeds from the refinancing to return cash to shareholders in the form of a share repurchase program.

  • The details and timing are currently under evaluation, and will require approval from our Board of Directors.

  • We expect our refinancing to close on June 1, and we plan to update our 2015 and long-term outlook for the impact of the refinancing, anticipated share repurchase program, and planned bakery sale, on June 3.

  • In summary, as we step back and look at the transformation of our economic model, these are the benefits that we expect to see: a more predictable earnings growth profile, which generates higher adjusted EBITDA margins, and a higher quality of earnings stream that is much less capital-intensive; a balance sheet we can leverage to support our long-term commitments on income and growth.

  • We expect system optimization to provide a stronger platform for us to have the ability to return cash to shareholders for years to come.

  • We also remain focused on building the strongest franchisee community possible, to drive long-term, profitable, sustainable growth.

  • With that, I will now turn it over to Dave Poplar for a quick look at our calendar, and then we will take your questions.

  • David Poplar - VP of IR

  • Thank you, Todd.

  • Please note that we will be returning scheduled calls with the sell side for the remainder of the day, but if you need to reach us, please email me at David.Poplar@Wendys.com, or leave a message at 614-764-3311, and we will get back to you as soon as we can.

  • Before we open up the phone line for questions, I would like to review some upcoming events on our Investor Relations calendar.

  • On June 1, we will host our annual meeting here at our Dublin headquarters.

  • On June 3, we will issue our updated outlook before the market opens, and host a conference call at 9:00 AM Eastern time.

  • We will be in touch with our sell-side analysts in the near future to schedule follow-up calls on that day.

  • On June 22, Emil, Todd, Greg Lemenchick and I will participate in the Stifel's Executive Summit at Baltusrol in New Jersey; and we will meet with investors in New York on the following day, June 23.

  • Please touch base with Paul Westra or Kerry Oelkers at Stifel if you are interested in meeting with us on either of those two days.

  • Looking further ahead, we plan to issue our second-quarter earnings on August 5, and our third-quarter earnings on November 4. Greg and I also plan to attend the CL King Conference in New York on September 10.

  • Now, we are ready to take your questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Your first question comes from the line of Will Slabaugh of Stephens Inc.

  • Will Slabaugh - Analyst

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Just had a quick question on same-store sales growth.

  • You mentioned the Company stores under performed your expectations a little bit, but the franchise stores coming in roughly in line.

  • Could you talk about the differences there, and what you think led to that under performance?

  • Then also, the contribution that you think came from the remodels?

  • While maybe that is not flowing through, as big as we may have expected at this point.

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Will, this is Emil.

  • Let me just comment on the under performance, and then I will flip it over to Todd.

  • As I mentioned in my comments, I feel that the area of opportunity we have in our calendar remains the price value area.

  • As I look at competitive in messaging and the flow of our business on the day parts, there's no doubt in my mind that was the difference between where we would have like to have been for the quarter and where we ended up.

  • And while it wasn't a significant miss, it was a little lighter.

  • As I look at the remainder of the calendar for the year, though, I feel very optimistic and comfortable on our outlook for sales guidance.

  • Todd, maybe you can provide some perspective on the --

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Yes, so a little more detail, Will, on the Image Activation program.

  • As you know, we did a lot of restaurants in the third quarter, fourth quarter last year.

  • In the earnings release, we stated that we saw a nice tailwind to same-restaurant sales for the Company of 150 basis points from IA, but we are also getting a lot more IAs now in the system.

  • The delta between the Company and the system is a little over 1 point of same-restaurant sales growth.

  • What really closed the gap down is, we just had carry-over pricing built into our plan during the course of this year.

  • The franchised community, when they saw the beef inflation coming their way, were much more aggressive on pricing during the course of the first quarter, so they took a little more pricing, which really narrowed the gap between the Company and the franchise numbers.

  • Will Slabaugh - Analyst

  • That's helpful.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Jeff Farmer of Wells Fargo.

  • Jeff Farmer - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Can you guys compare the wage inflation and crew turnover environment that you and your franchisees are seeing today versus maybe what you experienced in recent years?

  • Am just curious, if this is intensifying as quickly as we read in the press?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Yes, Jeff, this is Emil.

  • I will jump in on that.

  • I think we feel that the market has definitely tightened up, in terms of supply of labor.\ The way that we are approaching that across our system is very much on a situational basis as opposed to taking a broad-brush approach to that.

  • We are have a subscription service that we use that we are able to understand our wage rates locally versus competitors in virtually every DMA in the country.

  • We have a pretty good understanding of exact gaps that exist, not only for our team members, but also for the management positions in our restaurants.

  • We continue to manage that very, very tightly and respond as is appropriate in those situations.

  • I feel we have quite a good handle on this.

  • Does that answer the question, Jeff?

  • Jeff Farmer - Analyst

  • Yes, that works.

  • And if I can, just one more?

  • Admittedly reaching here with this question because you did make it clear that you're going to update guidance on June 3, but is there an opportunity to see a material change in your expectations for either an adjusted EBITDA or EPS as you move into the back half of 2015 or 2016 in terms of everything that is going on?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • At this stage, Jeff, we are going to pass and provide updated guidance on June 3. We have a lot of moving pieces, as we talked about in the earnings release, between the sale of the bakery, which we expect to close this month, the completion of the refinancing on June 1, and then ultimately how we want to execute share repurchase program.

  • So, we would want to wait and provide full details of that on a call on June 3.

  • Jeff Farmer - Analyst

  • All right.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Sara Senatore of Bernstein.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Hey, guys.

  • This is Jonathan in for Sara.

  • Just two quick questions for you.

  • First, just thinking about comps in the context of competition, you can just give us an update of how the competitive environment is changing?

  • Is it getting more intense or less intense?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Jonathan, Emil.

  • I would say that actually the pattern we are seeing is pretty consistent out there.

  • I don't see dramatic shifts one way or another.

  • As I mentioned, that I think the area that we have to continue to refine is in terms of price value.

  • But when I look at the first quarter, we really had a nice start with our Asiago ranch chicken club.

  • It performed very nicely.

  • February, quite honestly, we were rolling over fairly soft numbers in terms of weather, but we had an awful lot of weather that impacted us in February.

  • Then in March, with our salad event, our core salad event, again, we had a very nice experience with that.

  • I think the area of opportunity for us continues to be refining our price value messages.

  • But as we look through the remainder of the year, we do have secondary messages planned throughout the year.

  • Also, that we look at the current event, the jalapeno fresco chicken club and the ghost fries, have started off very nicely and we are extremely pleased with what we are seeing there.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Jonathan, beyond the top line we feel very good on the margin front.

  • As you saw in the release today, up significantly on margin expansion, seeing nice flow-through on the carry-over pricing, a nice favorable mix behind the promotions that Emil had just talked about, as well as realizing the benefits of Image Activation and system optimization initiatives.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Just a question on the plans to sell the 640 restaurants.

  • I think you guys updated the numbers a little bit since the last briefing with the Street.

  • I guess any color on anything that changed since you last updated investors on those numbers?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • No, I think when we provided the guidance on February 3, we said approximately 500, knowing that we were still refining which markets, which specific restaurants, so today we want to give you a little more visibility that it is the 540 number.

  • We changed the pacing and the sequencing, so we are selling the restaurants in two phases.

  • First chunk, probably late Q3, early Q4.

  • That is the 260, which is up from the previous guidance of about 225 restaurants.

  • Then for 2016, we've got about 280 restaurants now, I would expect them over the course of the summer to get all of those sold.

  • Just some slight refinements as we fully identified which marks and how we wanted to pace and sequence and sell those markets.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Bernstein of Barclays.

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Morning, Jeffrey.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Morning.

  • Two questions.

  • Just one, following up on that, Todd, you talk about the restaurant margin improvements, which the uptick obviously is impressive, especially I think you mentioned you took a 160 basis points hit from commodities led by beef.

  • So my first question is just that, which is the leverage you saw was pretty strong, just wondering to what you attribute that to?

  • Should we still assume that 4% inflation in 2015?

  • And whether your suppliers are giving you any insight that maybe the beef market will see less inflation as we look to 2016, which is something we have been hearing?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Despite some of the weather that Emil referred to, we felt very good about the margins during the course of the quarter.

  • It really was a function of some of the carry-over pricing that we had that flowed through nicely to the bottom.

  • Strong mix, as we focused on a couple of solid LTOs and salad promotion during the quarter.

  • Importantly, as you get into the tailwinds, we are seeing the impact of the IA.

  • With the 1.5% tailwind in same-restaurant sales growth, it was nice, strong flow-throughs.

  • That falling to the bottom line.

  • Then you do get into the impacts of we did close some restaurants along the way.

  • That's why we are adding a net closure position end of last year, early this year, as well as the system optimization initiative, which we are starting to see the benefits of that flow through on the margin front.

  • And all of that was enough to really offset that higher beef inflation.

  • We did update our guidance on margin for the year.

  • Even though we have moved our same-restaurant sales number from approximately 3% to 2.5% to 3%, to reflect the results flowing from the first quarter, we did take our guidance on margin up to 16.5% to 17%.

  • That's really a function of where we thought we would see inflation at the beginning of this year, upwards of 4%, we are now tracking at about 1.5%.

  • Beef remains high, but it is not as high as we had kept anticipated when we provided guidance earlier this year.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • And might that trend -- I mean that is going from 4% to 1.5%, with some beef, do you have any optimism, or optimism into 2016 that you could see things roll over and actually turn favorable with beef, or less inflation?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Still a little too early to tell.

  • We really still think that it will be a high beef price environment into next calendar year, into 2016.

  • But the delta year on year will continue to moderate as we come off of that much higher base.

  • We wouldn't expect at this stage to actually see beef turn around and start to come down to the later part of 2016 or early 2017 at this stage, based on what we are seeing on supply and demand and where the herds stand today.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Got you.

  • My other one was just on the re-franchisings.

  • I think you mentioned the demand for the 500 plus sites was actually quite strong.

  • I know you guys are stuck with that $400 million to $475 million proceeds, which I guess is roughly $800,000 per store.

  • I am just wondering is that the level that you were seeing with your initial, or where do you come up with that range, and what time of multiple does that imply?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • It is right where we have been historically in the 5 to 6 multiple.

  • It is really a function of these restaurants being higher AUV and higher margin and higher cash flow, that we are going to see more proceeds.

  • We provided, purposely, a very wide range on analyst day of the $400 million to $475 million, because it was approximately the 500.

  • We didn't have the specific restaurants or markets identified.

  • We are still comfortable that we are within that range as we've refine the specific markets that we intend to sell in those specific restaurants within the market.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thank you.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Karen Holthouse of Goldman Sachs.

  • Karen Holthouse - Analyst

  • Hi, thank you for taking the question.

  • I am trying to understand a little bit, is the long-term guidance for new builds in the commentary on where stores opening at $1.9 million right now, could we get an update what you expect to use as economics for new builds to look like in 2015?

  • Then bridging to the longer-term payback goal, how much of that is the top line versus the margin?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • On the new restaurant side, we've historically talked about sales to investment ratios of 1.1 times, excluding the land.

  • We've got a stated goal to increase that to north of 1.3 times.

  • We are working towards that goal, so we are not all the way there yet.

  • The good news is even though we haven't fully improved the economics to the goal that we want on a sales-to-investment ratio, we've got a lot of engagement by our franchise community, where they actually see what these restaurants can do in the eyes of the consumers moving forward.

  • So we getting some great support, hence the visibility to 80 new restaurants in total across the Company and the franchise community during the course of this year.

  • And the follow-up, second part of the question was?

  • Karen Holthouse - Analyst

  • Just thinking about over the multi-year, getting to the target, how much of that comes from more of a top-line, so sales-to-investment sales piece of it?

  • In particularly given margin strength that we are seeing versus the margin side of things?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Yes, so we've got a balance.

  • We've provided guidance in February, that the top line for the system, and we will start to gravitate to a system-wide same-restaurant sales as we continue to sell off these restaurants, was 2.25% to 3%.

  • So we've got a realistic expectation on what we can do on the top.

  • Importantly, through (technical difficulty) that what we have, Image Activation, the system optimization initiative, and the continued good work that we are doing in the four walls of the restaurant to manage controllable expenses, we will see a gravitation of margins towards that 20%.

  • That is where you will see a lot of that expansion come through on the profit side.

  • The modest top-line growth flows through to really strong bottom-line growth.

  • That is the way the growth algorithm works.

  • Karen Holthouse - Analyst

  • Then one other question on the product side, with the salad campaign in March that was I think a little bit of a divergence from previously and it really trying to emphasize quality of ingredients and quality of sourcing.

  • Did you see that move the needle in terms of quality perceptions among particular groups of consumers, and in particular Millennials, because it seems like a campaign that was pretty narrowly targeted at that?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Karen, I think we would not have expected really one four-week or five-week window to change those trajectory on those measures overnight.

  • But I can tell that you we've got a lot of very positive feedback from that campaign.

  • One of the things that was a very nice positive surprise, is we got tremendously positive feedback, actually, from employees.

  • They went online and gave their own personal testaments to customers, that yes, this is actually what happens in Wendy's, and I build these salads and I cut the lettuce.

  • It was very uplifting.

  • I think the thing you should take away from that is, we have great confidence in the equities of our brands and the things that really differentiate and separate Wendy's out.

  • I think that we have been too modest about talking about those, and we are going to bring those out more effectively, in the future, and you will definitely see more consistently.

  • Karen Holthouse - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of David Palmer of RBC capital.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Morning, David.

  • Jack Kindregan - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning, this is Jack Kindregan on for David Palmer.

  • I was wondering if you could comment on the shift in your marketing energies toward a better balance between the core and value and the premium LTOs?

  • I was just wondering if that would be a drag on check growth but perhaps helping your traffic and through put and maybe on the margin side as well this quarter?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • No, we actually see that very much as upside.

  • It is a refinement.

  • This is not a dramatic change that you are going to see, but it is definitely a refinement.

  • I think are you going to continue to see check benefits from our promotions.

  • As well as we just wanted to get a richer mix and a more targeted mix on the price value arena.

  • Our sense is that one of the areas that has been more competitive is specifically the lunch day part, and I think that we can do a better job with some targeted messages there, in terms of a price point that is more important at the lunch day part to be more successful with that.

  • Jack Kindregan - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Buckley of Bank of America.

  • Joseph Buckley - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • I was wondering if I could get some clarification on the comment about the Image Activation restaurants contributing 150 basis points to the Company same-store sales?

  • What exactly does that mean?

  • How did it comp versus the system?

  • Is that the weighted impact?

  • I'm not quite sure what you are conveying.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Yes, Joe, that is the weighted impact.

  • On the Company same-restaurant sales side, the 2.6% growth, 150 basis points of 2.6% growth is really driven by the impact that the Image Activation restaurant have on comp sales.

  • Those would be restaurants that were constructed during the course of last year and the beginning of this year that have gotten into the comp phase.

  • Joseph Buckley - Analyst

  • Maybe just to be more transparent, could you give us what the count number was for the Image Activation restaurants?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • We don't specifically disclose the comps for the IA restaurants, but we are continuing to see lift in that range of 10% to 15% on those restaurants that are sustainable lifts, post the grand opening phase.

  • Joseph Buckley - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Then just a question on the re-franchising, how should we be thinking about the moving parts of it going forward?

  • Are there different individual deals on royalty rates or fees, depending on whether restaurants are re-imaged or not?

  • And will there be a big -- do you have a sense yet of the ownership of the real estate on the restaurants that are to be re-franchised?

  • That would obviously affect the rental income?

  • Just any help on the moving parts would be appreciated?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Joe, like we did in the sale of the restaurants west of the Mississippi for SOP 1, we are going to continue to retain the real estate on the sale of these restaurants.

  • The percentage of dirt underneath the restaurants is fairly consistent with what we have done for system optimization 3, consistent with what we did in the original system optimization 1 initiative.

  • We aren't doing anything special around royalty rates as we move forward.

  • A differentiate in these bids, is if they come in at a full-price bid and they want to do something a little bit different around pacing and sequencing of IAs or more on the new restaurant build scenario, those are items that they can put forward.

  • But all of those will be out there to help solidify our goals of 60% IA restaurants by 2020 and 1,000 gross new growth restaurants by 2020.

  • Joseph Buckley - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Michael Gallo of CL King.

  • Michael Gallo - Analyst

  • My question is just as you have a little more time and you've refined the program around system optimization, I was wondering if there is any change to your thinking about we should think about SG&A per store once you ultimately get through this initiative?

  • Obviously, the SG&A in the quarter, which might have been timing-wise, certainly was at a lower pace than we would have expected.

  • Thanks.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Yes, Michael, so we re-confirmed today that we are at the approximately $250 million G&A for this year.

  • Now, our guidance post system optimization 3 is to have that gravitate down to about $230 million, so we will see an improvement over time at a per restaurant level.

  • Like we've always said in the past, we will continue to look at G&A to make sure we are getting a nice reinvestment for the expense that we have on the books.

  • What we did as part of the realignment and G&A cuts that we did in the fourth quarter of last year, we did take some of that money and put it back into development and into technology, because we do believe that we will get a return for that investment.

  • We will continue to look at those things as we move forward, post system optimization 3.

  • Are we getting an adequate return on investment for the support that we are providing to the franchise community?

  • Michael Gallo - Analyst

  • Then also, just a follow up, I'm not sure if you commented on it, but is there any thought as to how much you would expect to get for the bakery business?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • We haven't commented on that.

  • We will provide more specific details on that when we get to the June 3 date.

  • We are hoping to finalize the negotiates and complete the sale by the end of May.

  • Michael Gallo - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks very much.

  • Operator

  • And next question comes from the line of John Glass of Morgan Stanley.

  • John Glass - Analyst

  • A few follow ups.

  • First, Emil, just on the value component, did you forgo a traditional value message in January that maybe you had done in the past, or the competitors?

  • How do you think about how you want to address that specifically?

  • I know you are focusing on margins, so are you trying to get away interest that dollar messaging now and maybe that's one of the nuances you're trying to work through?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • John, I do think that there is a migration that is taking place in terms of the use of value menus and the role that they play in QSRs.

  • I think a lot of brands are seeing that.

  • We did have a $1.29 Monterey ranch chicken sandwich underneath the message in January, and really, we were very happy with the start we had to the year.

  • As I mentioned then we hit some tough weather in February that definitely had an impact, followed that up with a salad event that we were pretty happy with.

  • So that is definitely part of the migration that you will see us take place, John, in terms of how we use that message and where we use it.

  • John Glass - Analyst

  • Thanks.

  • Then Todd, just what is the size of the bakery business?

  • Do you make money from it right now?

  • How do we look at it in the P&L currently?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • If you go back to the K at the end of the year, it is about $62 million of revenue from the bakery business.

  • It is around $16 million of EBITDA, but you've got to recall that EBITDA for last year had us out of the pension plan.

  • We had the pension withdrawal liability that we had taken last year.

  • We are now back into it, in advance of that, or going back into it, in advance of the sale of that facility.

  • The $16 million of EBITDA is probably not a fully-loaded EBITDA, because we don't cross-charge for all the support services that we provide here.

  • Those would be the metrics that would be specific in the P&L from 2014 actual, so just under $62 million of revenue, $16 million of EBITDA.

  • John Glass - Analyst

  • That's helpful.

  • Finally, on mobile order and pay, what is the gating factor?

  • Is it getting everyone on a common POS system before you can do that system wide?

  • I think you said 2016 is the goal, is that still the goal and is that the limiting factor right now, or is there other elements?

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • John, this is Emil.

  • It is getting the Aloha system in place is important, but we are looking at this as more DMA by DMA basis.

  • 2016 is the definitely the target and the goal and we have confidence in that, but we don't need to wait until the end of that time to start rolling that out DMA by DMA.

  • I think we mentioned to you that we do have this in place in Phoenix.

  • We are in the process of developing the rollout scenario for markets beyond that.

  • John Glass - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Gabe Segner of UBS.

  • Gabe Segnor - Analyst

  • Thanks, two questions.

  • First one, Emil, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about some of the recent leadership changes in the marketing and innovation side of the business with the appointment of a new Chief Concept Officer and maybe some other departures?

  • Just talk a little bit about the changes to that leadership team, if you wouldn't mind?

  • Thanks.

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Sure.

  • First of all, we did have our Chief Marketing Officer, Craig Bahner, leave us.

  • As you may have read, that Craig has been appointed the president of a significant business in a packaged goods manufacturing business, and so that was his transition.

  • We had the opportunity to bring in Kurt Kane.

  • Kurt was someone who I knew from my time at Yum!

  • Brands.

  • He is an outstanding leader.

  • And we wanted just someone with a broader perspective on the business in terms of not just the marketing and the food innovation, but his title of Chief Concept Officer reflects a broader influence we want him to have on the organization.

  • Clearly, we move in a very rapidly-changing world today, and assuring brand relevance is something that becomes extremely important.

  • So I think Kurt is going to have an important influence on that.

  • The other thing is Kurt has very extensive experience globally.

  • He was responsible for not only the domestic marketing at Pizza hut but also the global marketing.

  • Certainly, we have high hopes and expectations, and we are very enthusiastic about things we are seeing in our global business.

  • And we believe that Kurt can play an important role in having a positive influence on the success of that part of our business.

  • Gabe Segnor - Analyst

  • Thanks.

  • Just one quick follow-up one, Todd.

  • That is a fairly meaningful adjustment in the inflation outlook from the previous updated 4% to now 1.5%, especially given B50s have been up.

  • If you could talk about where did the savings come from?

  • Was this actual commodity prices?

  • Are you doing something more effective in terms of hedging and/or purchasing?

  • Anything on that front would be helpful?

  • Thank you.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Nothing different on how we are purchasing the beef.

  • It is really against an expectation of where we think beef prices are coming out.

  • As you know, we buy them basically three months in arrears, based on where the average prices are in the marketplace.

  • That program has been consistently applied year on year.

  • We were getting very nervous when we looked at supply and demand at the beginning of this year and where we thought beef's prices might run during the course of the summer, when you get into the summer barbecue season.

  • Our anticipation was much higher inflation on beef than what we are actually experiencing.

  • We are starting to buy into the middle of the third quarter right now, so we got a pretty good sense of where the beef costs are, so had the confidence to update the guidance for the year.

  • Gabe Segnor - Analyst

  • Thank you much.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of David Carlson of KeyBanc.

  • David Carlson - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • I just wanted to circle back around on the G&A question that was asked earlier.

  • Can you guys talk about the cadence of G&A throughout the year?

  • I'm just really trying to understand what could possibly cause G&A to build throughout the balance of year, given the system optimization initiative, a lot of it, the vast majority of the re-franchising has yet to take place?

  • At this pace, it looking like about $10 million positive benefit to EBITDA, but you guys reiterated $250 million.

  • Just trying to get a better handle on that?

  • Thank you.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • Some of it, if you look at the first quarter, it is much lower than what the run rate obviously is to get to the $250 million.

  • Some of that is a function of when we did the G&A realignment initiative at the end of last year.

  • We had several individuals leave the organization, and we've reallocated resources and we're rehiring some resources, so it is really the pacing and sequencing of when they come back into the business here during the course of the second quarter.

  • It is really more of a timing function than anything else, so you will see that uptick.

  • Then you will start to see how things start to transpire as we sell restaurants later in the year.

  • The first tranche of restaurants that we plan to sell as part of system optimization 3 happens very late in the year, so you don't start to see any of the real significant G&A savings until you flow though into 2016.

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Does that answer your question, David?

  • David Carlson - Analyst

  • I'm good.

  • Thank you, guys.

  • Emil Brolick - President & CEO

  • Okay.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your final question comes from the line of John Ivankoe of JPMorgan.

  • Amod Gautam - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • It's Amod Gautam filling in.

  • Todd, you talked about the profitability for the bakery.

  • What was the CapEx spent in 2014 for bakery?

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • We spend about $7 million of CapEx at the bakery.

  • It is one of those things that we have lines that need to be maintained and upgraded.

  • We do direct distribution to the restaurants and to the freezers.

  • And it is one of those investments that over time is going to need some more CapEx put into the facility to continue to keep that facility upgraded.

  • As we looked at the long-term outlook for the business, and looked at where the uses of cash needed to go, and with the evolution of moving from high-speed buns to artisan buns, we looked at that as a non-core asset and thought the appropriate thing to do would be to put it in the hands of a true bakery operator to support our business appropriate moving forward.

  • Then, get a nice return for the sale of that bakery.

  • Amod Gautam - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Then it seems like, just taking a little bit of a longer-term view, because are you obviously going through this multi-year transformation.

  • 2018 seems like the first steady-state year, post-refranchising, and at that point, you've got it to $75 million of CapEx.

  • So can you just bucket out how much of that is growth CapEx or associated with IT et cetera versus maintenance?

  • It still seems relatively high given that you will be 95% plus franchised.

  • And think there is a number of peers that probably spend less CapEx as a percentage of EBITDA at that point.

  • Todd Penegor - CFO

  • We will provide more specific guidance on the breakout of the ongoing run rate of CapEx on June 3 when we update the full-long term guidance.

  • But in that number you have some new restaurant development that we will continue to do.

  • You get to that stage where the restaurants that we have retained, that 5%, we've re-imaged them early in the game, so we will need more money to go back in to keep those restaurants fresh and up to date.

  • And we're going to continue to invest in technology.

  • So those are the three big components that go into that bucket, but we will give you more visibility and clarity on that as part of the June 3 discussion.

  • Amod Gautam - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • At this time, we have no further questions.

  • This does conclude our conference call for today.

  • Thank you for your participation.

  • You may now disconnect.