Washington Trust Bancorp Inc (WASH) 2023 Q4 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good morning and welcome to Washington Trust Bancorp Inc.'s conference call. My name is Seth, and I will be your operator today. (Operator Instructions) Today's call is being recorded.

  • I will now turn the call over to Elizabeth B. Eckel, Executive Vice President, Chief Marketing, and Corporate Communications Officer. Ms. Eckel.

  • Elizabeth Eckel - EVP and Chief Marketing & Corporate Communications Officer

  • Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Washington Trust Bancorp Inc.'s conference call for the fourth quarter and year-end 2023. Joining us this morning are members of Washington Trust executive team, Ned Handy, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Mary Noons, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Ron Ohsberg, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer; and Bill Wray, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Risk Officer.

  • Please note that today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from what is discussed on today's call. Our complete Safe Harbor statement is contained in our earnings release which was issued yesterday as well as other documents that we filed with the SEC. All of these materials and public filings are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.washtrust.com. Washington Trust trades on the NASDAQ under the symbol WASH.

  • I'm pleased now to introduce Washington Trust's host, Washington Trust's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ned Handy.

  • Ned Handy - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, Beth. Good morning, everybody, and thanks for joining us for our call, and we definitely appreciate your time and interest. And I know we have a busy morning this morning, so I'm going to be fairly quick in my comments, then Ron will dive into the fourth-quarter performance, and then Mary Noons and Bill Wray will join us for Q&A.

  • We continue to be focused on ensuring a durable balance sheet that is positioned to take advantage of opportunities as external conditions improve. We're concentrating on capital, credit deposits, and expense management all to prepare for what we believe will be a steadily improving external environment throughout 2024. In that way, we'll remain positioned to resume growth of our long-term focused, profitable, relationship-driven company.

  • On the capital front, we've slowed asset growth and are managing our funding base and expenses to build earnings capacity. Our lenders are primarily focused on managing existing credit, raising deposits, and attending to the needs of our all-important customer base. We're emphasizing deposit growth and are looking particularly at deposit-oriented segments of the economy. We've made some technology investments to supplement our deposit growth strategies including the addition of an omnichannel automated deposit account opening tool.

  • Our deposit franchise remains strong, although understandably more expensive. We remain committed to incremental branching and are pleased that our three newest branches opened within the past two years have almost $130 million in aggregate deposits. Our average branch size remains above $200 million. We held in-market deposits steady in the fourth quarter in a very competitive landscape. And through our continued efforts and focus, we will drive growth in future periods.

  • While there are signs of a stabilizing economy, it is difficult to gain short-term certainty about rates, inflation, the credit cycle, and other aspects of the general economy. Our focus is on what we can control and on protecting and enhancing our customer base and the experience they have with us. Included in our expense focus is a detailed look at our real estate footprint, both leased and owned. We will rightsize our footprint and look at appropriate ways to unlock capital and reduce expenses where able. Our employees always provide reason to be optimistic, both according to our customers and reflected in the recognition we've received from Newsweek, Forbes, American Banker, and Blue Cross as a great and healthy place to work.

  • In summary, we are positioned to ensure stability and to regain our customary strength in the quarters ahead. We have a strong and dedicated team and known brand, very strong credit statistics, sufficient capital, and an appropriate short-term strategy to weather the current challenges and to enhance franchise value.

  • At this point, I'll turn it over to Ron for a more detailed review of the quarter.

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Thank you, Ned. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. As Ned mentioned, fourth-quarter net income was $12.9 million or $0.76 per diluted share. This includes a tax item of $3.3 million that added $0.19 to EPS. Net interest income was $32.7 million, down by $1.1 million or 3%. The margin was 1.88%, down by 9 basis points. Average earning assets increased by $103 million, and the yield on those assets was for 4.81% up by 12 basis points.

  • On the funding side, average wholesale funding rose by $105 million, and average end-market interest-bearing deposits increased by $21 million. The rate on interest-bearing liabilities increased by 23 basis points to 3.49%. Prepayment fee income was $27,000 in the fourth quarter and $71,000 in Q3, neither having any impact to margin.

  • Noninterest income comprised 29% of total revenues and amounted to $13.3 million, down by $1.9 million or 13%. Wealth management revenues were $8.9 million, down $67,000 or 1%, reflecting a decrease of $58 million or 1% in average AUA balances. End-of-period AUA totaled $6.6 billion, up by $457 million or 7%, mainly reflecting market appreciation of $503 million. Mortgage banking revenues totaled $1.6 million, down by $554,000 or 26%. Of note, 64% of our originations in the quarter were saleable compared to 33% in the third quarter, and we expect the improvement in that ratio to continue.

  • Derivative income totaled $112,000 in the fourth quarter down by $970,000. We do expect minimal derivative gains in 2024. Regarding expenses, these were down $1.8 million or 5% from Q3. Salaries expense decreased by $3.2 million or 15% and reflected a $3.4 million in reductions to performance-based compensation accruals. For the year, these reductions totaled $5.4 million. Other noninterest expenses were up by $1.3 million or 56%, reflecting a $1 million contribution to our charitable foundation.

  • Income taxes were a net benefit of $774,000. As noted in our release, this included a $3.3 million reduction in tax expense due to a change in Massachusetts tax law. This increase increased Q4 and full-year EPS by $0.19. Excluding this adjustment, the effective tax rate for Q4 would have been 20.4% compared to 20.8% for Q3, and we estimate our full-year 2024 effective tax rate to be 21.2%.

  • Now turning to the balance sheet. Total loans were up by $37 million or 1% from September 30 and by $538 million or 11% from a year ago. In the fourth quarter, total commercial loans increased by $36 million or 1%, essentially all in commercial real estate. Residential loans decreased by $7 million. Consumer loans were up by $7 million.

  • In market deposits, we're down by $53 million or 1% from September 30 and up by $33 million or 1% from a year ago. Uninsured and uncollateralized deposits are estimated to be 18% total deposits, and our average deposit account balance is $36,000, and we have $1.9 billion of contingent liquidity. Total equity amounted to $473 million, up by $41 million from the end of Q3. This included quarterly net income of $12.9 million and a $44 million increase in AOCI due to an increase in the fair value of AFS securities. This was partially offset by $9.6 million in dividend.

  • Regarding asset quality, nonaccruing loans were 79 basis points, and past-due loans were 20 basis points of total loans. The increase in nonaccruing loans was largely due to one pre-loan that was placed on nonaccrual in the fourth quarter. This loan was current at December 31. The allowance totaled $41.1 million or 73 basis points of total loans. The fourth quarter provision for credit losses was a charge of $1.2 million, up by $700,000 from the provision recognized in Q3, and we had net charge-offs of $406,000 in the fourth quarter compared to $30,000 in Q3, and year-to-date net charge-offs totaled $520,000.

  • And at this time, I will turn the call back to Ned.

  • Ned Handy - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, Ron, and we can go right to questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Mark Fitzgibbon, Piper Sandler.

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • You guys did a nice job on expenses in the fourth quarter. I guess, I was curious on your thoughts for expense growth in 2024.

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah. So if you take our fourth-quarter total expenses and you back out the charitable contribution and you back out the incentive reversal, that's a good run rate going into 2024. So annualize that fourth quarter normalized, and that's our expense estimate for the year. So (inaudible)

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • I'm sorry. So roughly about $30 million a quarter?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • I think it's about $35 million a quarter.

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • I'm sorry, you're right. Yeah. Okay. And then secondly, what is your net interest margin outlook over the next quarter or two, and what does that assume for Fed actions?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah. So we're looking at NIM in the first quarter of one 1.80% to 1.85%. We continue to see a lot of competitive pressure on deposits. There's a lot of exception pricing going on. We continue to see mix shift from from DDA into CDs, et cetera. So we expect to see that continued pressure on the margin at least in the first quarter. We are budgeting three Fed rate reductions, and we think that that should give us some lift in the second half of the year.

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • Okay. And then can you share any color with us regarding --

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • We have a lot of one month --

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • Sorry.

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah, Mark. I was just going to give a little bit more color on that. So we do have a large $1.8 billion, $1.9 billion one month SOFR portfolio. So when the Fed does begin to cut rates, if they do, that will reprice immediately and keep most of our wholesale funding pretty short. So it will catch up, but it won't be instantaneous. So if they cut in March, we'll see a reset on that loan book on April 1. And then we'll just need to reprice our liabilities down.

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • Okay. And then I'm wondering if you could give us any color on that one commercial real estate loan that you put on nonaccrual.

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah. Bill, do you want to handle that?

  • Bill Wray - Senior EVP and Chief Risk Officer

  • Sure. Basically our exposure is $11 million. It's a recently renovated mixed-use office retail building in Greater Boston. They had leased the first floor up bind to a restaurant. They've had difficulty with the other three floors getting office tenants, so the borrower, a very -- we've got a lot of money in this deal, more than we do at this point, has gone through an orderly liquidation process. We have credible bids.

  • We expect it to close this quarter, [a sale] to close this quarter. That will take us out without principal loss. However, there's always -- you never know when a deal is going to close. But at this point, it's on have a path to resolution within the first quarter.

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • Okay, great. And then last question I had, your dividend payout ratio on a core basis this quarter was 98%. And with the margin likely to come under a little more pressure in coming quarters in expenses kind of in that $35 million level, it would imply that you'd go over 100% payout ratio in the first quarter. How do you feel about the sustainability of the payout ratio or the dividend level?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah, sure. I mean, our payout ratio was high. We realize that. We believe that we are -- we remain well-capitalized, and we believe that the dividend is sustainable even if we, I would say, temporarily go over 100%. We're still prepared to maintain that -- we are fully expecting to maintain the dividend.

  • Operator

  • Laurie Hunsicker, Seaport Research Partners.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Just going back to expenses here, so the charitable foundation charge of $1 million, wow should we think about that in your numbers going forward? Is that something we're going to see occurring in the fourth quarter every year? Is that going to be (technical difficulty) think about that.

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah. So I would say, Laurie, we kind of guided to more in the $500 million range the last time we talked about this. And with the tax benefit that we recorded, we topped that up to $1 million. So that should carry us through 2024 and into 2025. So at this point, we're not really expecting to add more to that in calendar year 2024 at this point. At some point, we'll have to put more in as we disperse the funds. But yeah, we intentionally topped that million dollars -- that contribution up to %1 million.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Got it, got it. Okay. So just back to the expense guide that you gave Mark here, I'm just trying to hear that. So just looking at $32.6 million backing out $1 million and down $31.6 million, how am I going from $31.6 million? And I realize you've got some new branches coming online, so maybe you can comment on that, but how do you go from $31.6 million per quarter up to $35 million per quarter? Can you help us think about that? What am I missing?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah, yeah. So Laurie, we had a credit go through the expense line of $3.4 million in the fourth quarter. So strip that out, and fourth quarter is more like $35 million.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Got it. Okay, got it. That's (multiple speakers) Okay.

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • We had this reversed to $3.4 million.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • And then your --

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yes?

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Okay, great. And then the other other income line of $83,000 looks like, was there any one-time charge that ran through that?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah, there was a -- we did so up to $300,000 valuation reserve. Yeah. We set up a $300,000 valuation reserve on an asset in there.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. Okay. And then back over to NIM, do you have a December spot margin?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah, it was 1.82%.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Okay. And then just last maybe general question. We've seen some banks take some restructuring within their securities book. How do you guys think about that as you look forward?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah. I mean, we've kicked that around a lot on. We've not decided to do that. I don't think we're planning to do that. We had a nice recovery in our investment portfolio in the fourth quarter. I understand some of the merits of why banks are doing it, but it's -- I doubt that we're going to do it.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Got you. Okay. Great.

  • Operator

  • Damon DelMonte, KBW.

  • Matt Renck - Analyst

  • Hey, everybody. This is Matt Renck, filling in for Damon DelMonte. Hope everybody's doing well. You guys mentioned your slowing asset growth but came through on loan growth this quarter. So I was just hoping we could get your thoughts on full-year loan growth for 2024?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah. I would say, on a net basis, it's going to be about 0%. So we're looking at commercial growth. We had -- We're not doing a lot of originations right now. We did have a fairly sizable, previously committed construction pipeline. That's going to add about $240 million of advances during the year. That will be partially offset by amortization and paydowns, but that will give us commercial growth of about 3%, but then we'll have about a 3% decline in resi and consumer, so on a net basis, about zero.

  • Matt Renck - Analyst

  • Okay, got it. And then just a follow-up on credit. With the slower loan growth, how should we think about provision expense? Should we think of it as reserves holding steady or maybe a slight build as credit starts to normalize?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Matt. I think we're thinking a slight build. And if you wanted to put in $1 million a quarter, we're not seeing any particular trouble. It just feels like it needs to be a little higher than, say, like the $0.5 million run rate that we've had. Of course, this quarter was a little higher, but we're thinking about $1 million a quarter.

  • Matt Renck - Analyst

  • Okay. Got it.

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Matt, you're set? Okay. I just wanted to give a little bit more color on expenses. So that 0% expense growth also includes about a $1.5 million additional expense related to the de novo branches, so that's covered.

  • Matt Renck - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Operator

  • We have a follow-up question from Laurie of Seaport Research. Please go ahead.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Yeah. I was actually just hitting you guys back on the expense related to branches. What is the timing on de novo branches opening in 2024? How you're thinking about that?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah, Ned?

  • Ned Handy - Chairman and CEO

  • Yeah. Hey, Laurie, it's Ned. Actually one in end of January and one end of first quarter, potentially April. And as Ron just pointed out in his expense comments, we have covered the cost of those new branches, so they're built into that expense base.

  • Laurie Hunsicker - Analyst

  • Perfect.

  • Operator

  • You also have a follow-up from Mark Fitzgibbon at Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

  • Mark Fitzgibbon - Director

  • Hey, guys. I was wondering if you could comment on your capital position and whether you were thinking about raising additional capital?

  • Ron Ohsberg - Senior EVP, CFO, and Treasurer

  • Yeah. We're not. We are curtailing our loan originations pretty significantly. So we're expecting capital ratios to stabilize pretty close to where they are and begin to improve over the second half of the year.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Okay. We have no further questions on the call.

  • Ned Handy - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, all. I know you've got a busy morning. We appreciate you taking the time to be with us, and I look forward to talking to you again soon. Have a great day, everybody.

  • Operator

  • This concludes the conference call. Thank you all very much for joining, and you may now disconnect.