Vodafone Group PLC (VOD) 2019 Q4 法說會逐字稿

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  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Well, good morning, everyone.

  • Thank you for attending today.

  • As usual, I intend to go through our commercial performance, and then Margherita will go through our financial overview, and then I want to talk about the progress we're making on our strategic execution.

  • Overall, while no one at Vodafone is pleased with the share price development, I am encouraged by the pace of our execution of our new strategy that I outlined in November, which I plan to expand on in a moment.

  • In terms of our financial performance, we faced a challenging competitive environment in Spain and Italy as well as increased headwinds in South Africa.

  • However, we delivered good growth in most of our other markets allowing us to deliver the EBITDA and free cash flow guidance for the year.

  • But clearly, top line growth weakened during the year, and spectrum costs were high.

  • Combined, this had an effect of reducing our financial headroom.

  • Vodafone is at a key point in its transformation, and it's critical that we have sufficient headroom to execute this transformation successfully.

  • As a result, the Board made the decision, not taken lightly, to rebase our dividend to EUR 0.09 per share to rebuild headroom and accelerate our move to the low-end of the leverage range at 2.5 to 3x within a few years, ensuring a secure progressive dividend moving forward, underpinning our determination to deliver much improved shareholder returns moving forward.

  • Importantly, our ambition is to grow free cash flow, and that has not changed.

  • We've incorporated the benefit of Liberty deal into the long-term incentive target, which is EUR 17.7 billion, over the next 3 years.

  • So turning to our execution.

  • As I came into this role, I wanted to drive a more consistent commercial performance.

  • We've made a good start, achieving record low mobile contract churn in the year and adding 1 million fixed broadband customers.

  • The digital and radical simplification transformation of the group has accelerated, and we have already executed half of the EUR 1.2 billion OpEx target, which Margherita will expand on.

  • And I will talk later about the new commercial initiatives we have around simplified price plans.

  • We've made swift progress regarding our network sharing agreements that substantially improve our asset utilization as well as unlocking tower monetization possibilities moving forward.

  • Our new focus on partnering is evident across the business from IBM in cloud to AT&T and Arm in IoT, which I will expand on.

  • And finally, we continue to actively manage our portfolio.

  • In India, following the merger with Idea, we successfully closed India's largest-ever rights issue last week, and we expect to close the tower merger in the coming months.

  • And yesterday, we announced the full sale of our business in New Zealand for EUR 2.1 billion, a valuation of 7.3x EBITDA.

  • In terms of our commercial performance, I have emphasized to all of our CEOs that I view churn as a key measure of our progress in deepening customer engagement.

  • This focus across the group has delivered the result you see on the chart on the left-hand side, a marked step-down.

  • This was also the case in Europe despite higher churn levels in Spain.

  • One of our key levers to improve churn is -- and grow revenues going forward -- is to win broadband market share, and then drive convergence.

  • And as you can see from the green columns, on the right-hand side, we added 1 million broadband customers with a strong H2 performance.

  • Long term, I believe that single-digits churn rates are a realistic target in most of our markets, given that we're already at those levels in a number of our other European markets and South Africa.

  • And I believe that churn reduction is a growth lever for us moving forward.

  • Turning to our financial performance by major markets.

  • The U.K., you see, returned to service revenue growth for the first time in 5 years in a stable competitive environment, achieving a record low churn rate.

  • A 6% underlying OpEx reduction and improved customer profitability in business fixed drove the double-digit EBITDA growth that you see on the charts.

  • Other AMAP, Turkey and Egypt both continued to deliver excellent results.

  • Our other smaller European markets contributing 12% of service revenue grew strongly.

  • Typically, these are 3 planned markets within a rational competitive environment.

  • We delivered 2% service revenue growth and almost 6 -- 8% EBITDA growth in the year, with notable performances in Portugal, Greece and Hungary.

  • In Germany, we grew retail revenues over 2% in a stable, competitive environment.

  • Wholesale revenues dragged on the service revenue and EBITDA growth.

  • Excluding wholesale, underlying EBITDA grew 8% in the year compared to the 4% that you see on the chart.

  • Vodacom had a mixed year with a sharp H2 slowdown in South Africa, given headwinds, offset by double-digit international growth.

  • Importantly, South Africa's service revenue growth stabilized in Q4.

  • And in April, we've managed pricing successfully to mitigate the impact of the new out-of-bundle data regulation.

  • We continue to expect revenue growth to recover in H2 this year.

  • The main drags in the year were Spain and Italy, and let me take the opportunity to expand on those.

  • Let's start with Spain.

  • The competitive environment remains intense, but stable over the quarter.

  • As you can see from the porting charts on the right, we are competing effectively against TEF and Orange despite our decision to step away from [football] rights at the current unprofitable levels.

  • Similarly, the effective commercial repositioning of our second brand, Lowi, has dramatically reduced ports to MÁSMÓVIL.

  • During H2, Lowi achieved around a 30% share of mobile net adds in the value segment, up 18 % year-over-year.

  • Last month, we launched our new speed tier unlimited data plans for both mobile-only and converged.

  • As I will describe in more detail later in the presentation, our main goal is to drive value accretion in our existing base.

  • We've also taken radical cost actions to simplify the business with 1,000 FTEs due to exit by the end of June, and we have announced a significant 5G network sharing deal with Orange across fixed and mobile.

  • These actions, together with lower content costs from our -- as we complete the lapping of the football in July, give us confidence that the business will return to EBITDA growth in H2.

  • Turning to Italy.

  • Competitive intensity has begun to moderate.

  • As you can see on the top chart, MNP activity has fallen back to levels experienced prior to Iliad's entry and have fully peaked in Q2.

  • We remain focused on spin down pressure on revenue, given lower pricing and larger allowances.

  • However, both main and second brand headline pricing has been rising materially in recent months, as you can see from the bottom-right chart, ultimately helping us to reduce the spin down pressure.

  • Iliad has yet to move up their pricing, and we believe it's structurally unprofitable at current levels, so we expect this over time.

  • We had a strong fixed performance with double-digit revenue growth, supported by strong broadband net adds as well as the excellent job on cost reduction with a 10% OpEx reduction in the year.

  • This cost performance, together with lower commercial cost, driven by lower MNP volumes, drove the recovery in our EBITDA margin during H2.

  • Now let me hand over to Margherita to go through the financials.

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • And good morning, everyone.

  • As Nick has already highlighted, we have achieved our guidance for FY '19.

  • Let me now walk you through the financial highlights of the year in more detail.

  • As before, please note that all the figures presented here are on an IAS 18 basis to aid comparability with prior periods.

  • On a reported basis, service revenue and EBITDA declined.

  • This was primarily due to the sale of Qatar and FX headwinds as well as distortions created by U.K. handset financing and the benefits of settlements in the prior year.

  • So I will focus on the underlying trends consistent with the approach that we took last year.

  • I need to say that I'm really looking forward to my next presentation when this concept of underlying will no longer be required.

  • Now staying on this basis, service revenue grew 0.3% and EBITDA grew 3.1%.

  • EBITDA growth was supported by a further net reduction in operating expenses by EUR 400 million across Europe.

  • As a result, our organic EBITDA margin expanded by 50 basis point to 31.1%.

  • We have now delivered margin expansion for the fourth year in a row.

  • Underlying EBIT increased by 9.4%, and free cash flow pre-spectrum was stable year-on-year.

  • The bridge on Slide 11 shows the work from adjusted EBIT to reported earnings.

  • I do not intend to go through it in detail as this movement are clearly explained in the press release.

  • Please also note that the IFRS 15 statutory numbers for the year are not fully comparable with prior year IAS 18 numbers.

  • But let me draw your attention to the material items.

  • First, as we announced in November, the results include noncash impairment charges of EUR 3.5 billion, primarily related to our Spanish business, as well as a EUR 3.4 billion loss on disposal relating to the merger of Idea with Vodafone India.

  • Second, you can see the impact from the first 7 months of the Vodafone-Idea joint venture in the associates line.

  • And third, the group's underlying effective tax rate for the full year was 24.4%, up from 20.6% last year.

  • In each year, our tax rate can vary based on the country mix of profits, but our medium-term tax guidance remains unchanged at low to mid-20s.

  • Turning now to service revenue performance on Slide 12.

  • As the chart on the left shows, our underlying service revenue performance adjusted for U.K. handset financing and a one-off settlement in Germany slowed quarter-on-quarter to minus 0.6% from plus 0.1% in Q3.

  • This was primarily driven by 3 markets.

  • In the U.K., there was a tough prior year comparison due to the phasing of business-related project revenues.

  • In Spain, there was a full quarter impact from the promotional

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  • discounting seen during Q3.

  • And finally, in Italy, there was an MTR cut and an impact from the phasing of loyalty program changes.

  • On an underlying basis, growth was broadly similar to Q3.

  • Looking ahead into FY '20, we expect a gradual improvement in service revenue trends starting in Q2.

  • This reflects both easier comparisons during the year as well as the positive impact of the good commercial momentum that we achieved during half 2 and we plan to maintain.

  • From next quarter, we will focus on IFRS 15 growth rates, which, as you can see from the chart on the right, are not materially different.

  • On to the next slide where you can see the contribution from our value drivers to organic service revenue growth.

  • Within Europe consumer, revenues in Germany, the U.K. and other Europe, which represent 1/3 of the group, contributed 1 percentage point to overall growth with good momentum in both fixed and mobile.

  • Vodafone Business continued to grow as the strong performance in fixed offset challenges in mobile.

  • In Emerging Consumer, data revenues increased as we monetize strong traffic growth and prices rose with inflation.

  • Altogether, these drivers contributed to 2.3 percentage point of underlying service revenue growth in the year.

  • This was offset, of course, by Spain and Italy, which, as Nick has just described, are now commercially stabilizing, as well as by wholesale drags and MTR cuts.

  • However, we have made very good progress on our cost base.

  • Last November, I set an ambitious target for net OpEx savings of at least EUR 1.2 billion in Europe.

  • This requires us to reduce European OpEx by over 13% in 3 years, net of any reinvestment.

  • Today, we are already more than halfway towards this goal.

  • 50% of the savings so far have been driven by digital.

  • The largest savings have been in customer care, as I will outline with a case study shortly, and digital is really transforming all aspects of our operations from marketing to network maintenance.

  • A further 30% of the savings have come from leveraging our group scale.

  • We have centralized 3,000 rolling shared services whilst, at the same time, achieving 1,600 rolled efficiencies through automation.

  • Looking at the water flow chart, you can also see that in our rest of the world segment, we achieved our target of keeping organic OpEx growth below local inflation.

  • This drive for efficiency is not only an OpEx story.

  • Despite our robust commercial performance, as you can see, we were also able to lower acquisition and retention costs in the year.

  • This reflects the reduction in churn as retaining existing customers is less costly than acquiring new ones.

  • And we have also increased the proportion of online sales, which have doubled in the last 2 years, although I would say that we're only at the beginning of this journey.

  • During the coming year, we are ramping up our focus on radical simplification with deep reorganizations of our businesses already executed across multiple markets as well as simplified customer offers.

  • This is why I'm confident that we will deliver our OpEx targets for FY '20 and for FY '21.

  • In November, I shared with you a digital case study looking at German broadband.

  • Today, we are moving to Italy, where our virtual agent, TOBi, is transforming our customer care.

  • A year ago, to reach our call center, you would typically be routed through an automatic response or giving a series of preset options.

  • These contacts are shown in gray in the chart.

  • Some of these calls ended up being resolved by human agents, which is the blue area.

  • In April 2018, we launched TOBi as a chatbot, and TOBi also started handing over contacts to human agents when needed, which is the green area.

  • TOBi uses advanced artificial intelligence to provide customers with a conversational experience via voice, web and the My Vodafone app.

  • And TOBi continuously learns new skills, helping us to deliver better NPS and reduce the number of human contacts, as you can see from the blue and green areas.

  • The real turning point has come when we launched TOBi via WhatsApp and gradually replaced our old IVR system with TOBi Voice.

  • As of March, 2/3 of customer contacts in Italy were entirely automated.

  • And through the second half of the year, Italy reduced overall frequency of contact for customers by 15%, contributing to a 19% net saving in customer care OpEx.

  • This is a major opportunity across the group.

  • We spend over EUR 1 billion in customer care every year.

  • We have now rolled out TOBi in 15 -- in 11 markets, with a further 5 planned this year.

  • In Q4, the frequency of customer contact in Europe overall fell by 11%.

  • And over the full year, customer care OpEx fell by 90 [million].

  • Moving back to our performance in the year, you can see that our intense focus on cost has supported a further expansion in organic margins with underlying margins now at 31.1%, up 50 basis points organically.

  • This is the fourth year in a row that we have expanded our margins, and we aim to do so again in FY '20.

  • Our capital intensity remained broadly stable year-on-year at 16% compared to 15.7% in the prior year.

  • The chart on the left shows our current CapEx mix and on the right how we expect this mix to evolve over time, with IT, fixed and maintenance cost declining while 4G rollout will be ramping up.

  • During the past few years, for example, we have significantly invested in IT transformation in order to upgrade our legacy systems.

  • We are now over halfway through this journey, and this cost will decrease going forward.

  • In fixed, we see limited future buildout requirements post the acquisition of Liberty's assets.

  • In network and IT maintenance, we continue to drive digital efficiencies.

  • For example, 50% of our applications have already been migrated to the cloud, and we are virtualizing 25% of our core network functions.

  • Although data revenues continue to grow strongly, we are holding capacity CapEx broadly stable with the benefit of Big Data-driven smart CapEx planning.

  • In summary, we continue to believe that we can fund our 5G rollout within our mid-teens capital intensity envelope.

  • And this is also supported, of course, by our new network sharing agreements.

  • We see significant opportunities for cash savings through active and passive mobile network sharing.

  • Over the past 6 months, we have struck agreements which allow us to move from limited, passive sharing towards single, nationwide tower grids, also including backhaul, and as well as active radio sharing for 2G, 4G and 5G services outside major cities.

  • These deals will allow us to save meaningful OpEx and CapEx, especially compared to the stand-alone costs of rolling out 5G.

  • The deals in Spain and Italy are expected to generate combined annual run rate savings over time of at least EUR 200 million.

  • Italy and Spain represent just over 1/3 of our continental European towers.

  • If we are successful in replicating this sharing approach, the potential is significant.

  • In the U.K., whilst unwinding our prior active sharing in major cities, we're expanding the partnership with O2 to 5G and to backhaul.

  • Moving to free cash flow on Slide 19, there are a few items to call out.

  • First, working capital this year was broadly flat with the reversal of the EUR 200 million EBITDA benefit from handset financing, being offset by the sale of EUR 250 million of handset receivables.

  • This reflects our new policy decision to routinely sell all handset receivables going forward in order to increase our commercial flexibility.

  • These sales effectively align our cash inflows from customer receivables with our cash outflows from handset purchases, allowing us to offer longer payment terms on increasingly costly smartphones without artificially constraining volumes.

  • Second, net cash interest was EUR 250 million lower year-on-year.

  • This reflects a one-off benefit from the repayment of outstanding guarantee fees by Vodafone Hutch Australia.

  • On an underlying basis, net financing costs were flat year-on-year.

  • Third, dividend paid to minorities were EUR 200 million higher this year, primarily due to Egypt.

  • During the prior year, no dividend was paid.

  • And finally, spectrum costs were EUR 0.8 billion, reflecting the initial payments for 5G spectrum in Italy as well as Spain and the U.K. We continue to expect FY '20 to be the peak year of spectrum costs, given the ongoing 5G auction in Germany and potential auctions in South Africa, the U.K. and Spain later in the year.

  • Free cash flow for spectrum was EUR 4.4 billion, stable year-on-year and EUR 5.5 billion on a guidance FX basis.

  • Turning on to the balance sheet on Slide 20.

  • We closed the year with net debt of EUR 27 billion.

  • This was EUR 4 billion less than we have projected at half 1, principally reflecting the proceeds from the mandatory convertible bonds raised in March of EUR 3.8 billion.

  • During the year, we also started to buy back the prior mandatory bond for EUR 0.6 billion to be -- and with the balance of EUR 1 billion to be repurchased in FY '20.

  • On a pro forma basis, for the deal with Liberty Global, this means we ended the year with leverage at 2.9x towards the upper end of our 2.5 to 3x range as expected.

  • By the end of FY '19, we have successfully completed the funding of Liberty Global's asset having raised a total of EUR 20 billion at an average euro equivalent rate of 2.3% and with a weighted average maturity of 9.7 years.

  • Looking ahead to FY '20 now.

  • The waterfall on Slide 21 shows the basis for our guidance, which adjusts for the noncash impacts on EBITDA of U.K. handset financing and IFRS 15 and 16 accounting changes.

  • We expect adjusted EBITDA in FY '20 to be between EUR 13.8 billion and EUR 14.2 billion based on guidance FX rates, which implies low- single-digit organic growth.

  • We anticipate a stronger performance in half 2 as revenue growth gradually recovers and as content costs reduce in Spain.

  • As a reminder, in the second half of the year, we will also benefit from the impact of the acquisition of Liberty's assets, which has not yet been included in the annual guidance.

  • Together with sustained mid-teen capital intensity, we expect to generate free cash flow pre-spectrum of at least EUR 5.4 billion.

  • On Slide 22, you can see on the left our historic track record of meeting our cumulative 3 years free cash flow targets, which we have achieved despite capital expenditure remaining at the top end of the guidance range.

  • As the Liberty deal is expected to close shortly, we have included the accretion from the transaction on our new long-term target of EUR 17.7 billion together with the significant integration cost that we expect to incur in the initial years.

  • Excluding both Liberty and the estimated benefit from our new policy of selling receivables, which is approximately EUR 0.5 billion during the 3-year period, our free cash flow outlook for our core business has not materially changed.

  • This target range for the new LTIP implies substantial dividend cover under our new policy after taking into account historic average spectrum costs.

  • The rebased dividend level also significantly accelerates our organic deleveraging momentum, and we intend to move to the bottom end of our targeted 2.5 to 3x range in the next few years, rebuilding financial headroom.

  • The chart on Slide 23 illustrates the key deleveraging drivers.

  • At the midpoint of our new LTIP range, we will generate cash equivalent to 1.1 turns of deleveraging in the next 3 years.

  • The new dividend payout will increase leverage by 0.5 turn, a saving of 0.3 turns compared to the prior policy.

  • Over the next 2 to 3 years, we also intend to buy back the mandatory convertible bond that we recently issued, which would add 0.2 turns.

  • Finally, there are a range of other potential factors.

  • We need to fund 5G spectrum costs, which we can offset partially or in whole, through organic EBITDA growth in euro terms and through noncore asset sales such as New Zealand.

  • My priority will be to move at pace through our deleveraging as we are doing on the structural repositioning of our cost base.

  • And with that, let me hand back to Nick to walk you through our strategic progress.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Thank you, Margherita.

  • So let me first start with the strategic framework that we shared with you back in the November presentation.

  • Vodafone strives to be a purpose-led company playing a critical role in enabling a digital society.

  • To enable this future for Europe, I believe that we need a new social contract between the industry and government, where we commit to invest in leading Gigabit infrastructure, building consumer trust and driving innovation.

  • And in return, European regulators need to ensure a more balanced competitive environment supporting European operators to compete against global players, gain scale and ensure infrastructure investors earn a reasonable rate of return.

  • At the same time, we need to intensify our own efforts to improve our returns within the current regulatory structure.

  • Margherita has already gone through radical simplification and digital, so I really want to focus on the Gigabit network, customer engagement and scaling our platforms.

  • The foundation of our strategy is our commitment to leading Gigabit networks.

  • In NGN fixed, you can see on the left-hand chart the pending Liberty Group deal, along with incumbent network rollouts, will increase our NGN footprint to 122 million homes.

  • More importantly, the quality of the footprint significantly improves, passing 54 million NGN homes with our own network.

  • We're able to offer Gigabit speeds across much of this footprint, thanks to the DOCSIS 3.1 upgrade in Spain, Germany and Netherlands underway, and we plan to upgrade the Unity footprint in the next few years.

  • This gives us a long-lasting competitive advantage on network speeds, supporting market share gains with attractive incremental margins.

  • Given this growth opportunity, coupled with the EUR 6 billion of cost and CapEx synergies, I remain convinced that this deal will create substantial value for shareholders.

  • Last week, we submitted a comprehensive remedy package to address the key concerns regarding broadband competition and OTT capacity availability, and therefore, are confident that the deal will close in July.

  • Additionally, the number of homes passed by strategic partnerships, which offer superior economics to standard incumbent wholesale rates, increased to 9 million during the year.

  • This is primarily due to the success of Open Fiber, which has now reached 3.7 million homes and targeting 5 million by year-end.

  • Moving to mobile.

  • This year, we are launching Europe's largest 5G network bringing a range of long-term opportunities.

  • From a customer perspective, 5G brings real benefits.

  • Because it is 10 times faster, download speeds will dramatically drop, encouraging greater data consumption.

  • Super low latency enables real-time services like multiplayer e-gaming, a space we intend to take a leadership position, launching the world's largest competition through our partnership with ESL.

  • 5G is also a much more cost-efficient technology, which will support affordable speed tiered unlimited data plans.

  • And over time, 5G will enable a huge range of new services.

  • Vodafone really wants to be at the heart of the digital society.

  • So given these opportunities, I'm pleased to announce the official launch of our 5G network in the U.K. on the 3rd of July, and 5G handsets will be available from the 23rd of May.

  • We intend to launch in 8 other European markets over the coming months with live services in over 50 cities by the end of the year with full roaming for Vodafone customers.

  • I talked about a new social contract to enable a digital society.

  • Network sharing is an important component in that new contract where all stakeholders benefit.

  • Customers benefit from improved coverage along with more rapid 5G rollouts.

  • Society benefits from the accelerated productivity from our faster 5G deployment with a lower environmental impact, and Vodafone benefits from improved returns through industrial synergies whilst we retain our network differentiation, as covered by Margherita.

  • In addition, having captured the industrial synergies through country-level agreements, there is the clear opportunity to monetize our towers.

  • We're exploring all options that will create value for shareholders.

  • In Italy, Spain and the U.K., representing 48% of these towers, we are moving to finalize network-sharing agreements this quarter while assessing monetization options.

  • In Germany, whilst the 5G auction is ongoing, we cannot pursue discussions.

  • Clearly, once the auction is closed, we will be treating that as a priority.

  • We aim to announce further agreements in other smaller European markets, which could also unlock further tower monetization opportunities.

  • Moving to deepening our customer engagement, starting with the European consumer segment, which represents approximately 50% of our revenues.

  • In this segment, we have started to radically redesign our price plans, and I'd like to take the opportunity to go through the principles underpinning the new commercial approach taking Spain as an example.

  • As shown at the top half of the charts, the first priority is to simplify the price plans for the customer and our operations.

  • In most markets, we have thousands of legacy price plans, which create huge complexity for the customer and for the business.

  • So the second priority is to migrate our customer base over to the new plans to then simplify the IT estate, further improving the customer experience.

  • The challenge is to simplify these plans in a way that is ARPU-accretive.

  • This is achieved by a combination of the new unlimited data plans, reduced promotional discounts and through AI-enhanced base management activities.

  • Importantly, the new speed tiered plans create a clear ladder for upselling.

  • The pricing and the way we introduce the plans, whether the below the line, above the line, will vary by market, but I believe that maintaining a future monetization ladder is a significant growth opportunity for the industry.

  • Finally, by simplifying our core offering, it creates a window of opportunity to engage with our customers on value-added products and services.

  • As you can see from the bottom half of the chart, we have a wide range of options, which will help lower churn and drive revenue growth.

  • Our scale platforms also have an important role to play in driving deeper customer engagement.

  • My Vodafone app is not only our primary support channel for customers, but also a key distribution mechanism for personalized products and service offerings.

  • Across Europe, over 50 million unique customers now use My Vodafone every month.

  • Our loyalty programs, such as Happy, in Italy, that leverage discounts provided free of charge from our commercial partners plays a key role in driving frequency of use of the app.

  • Happy now has over 9 million users with at least 3 million checking their app every Friday to see the latest offer.

  • We are now even trialing a subscription model for customers to access exclusive offers.

  • TV is another important platform.

  • As I highlighted in November, post the Liberty deal, we will have over 22 million paying TV customers, one of the largest bases in Europe.

  • We are moving to a single platform, which is being launched in 4 markets, with Spain coming in Q1 this year.

  • Integration plans for the Liberty assets are well advanced, obviously within the limitations pending EC clearance.

  • And it is our intention to launch VTV in the remaining CEE markets this fiscal year.

  • Our goal is to be the partner of choice for content distribution.

  • Moving to Vodafone Business, contributing 30% of our revenues.

  • Though only marginally positive, we continue to have a better performance than most incumbent peers.

  • As you can see in the gray bar on the left-hand chart, business mobile remains under pressure.

  • In the SoHo/SME segment, which represents about half of the segment revenues, we are being negatively impacted by consumer pricing, especially in Southern Europe; and in large corporates, which is around 20% of the segment revenues pricing on renewables remains challenging.

  • Our strategy is to offset this pressure to broaden our product offering.

  • And this is working, as you can see, with the purple bars.

  • In fixed, we're gaining share.

  • In IoT, our growth has been impacted by the slowdown in the automotive industry.

  • However, IoT connectivity revenues continue to grow at 15%.

  • We've had an excellent year in cloud with some significant wins, and concluded a new IBM partnership, moving from a CapEx-intensive model to a variable cost model whilst gaining a full range of cloud products and services.

  • And finally, we are starting to develop a suite of digital solutions for SoHo to underpin the ARPU premium we enjoy in the segment.

  • I'd like to reinforce 2 future growth opportunities for Vodafone Business.

  • The first is we aim to play a disrupter role in the fixed networking market by capitalizing on new SD-WAN technologies, accelerating the pace of our fixed games.

  • This new technology allows corporates to flex bandwidth requirements based on demand, achieving cost savings of up to 40%.

  • Incumbents will be slow to move, given the obvious dilution that they will experience.

  • This creates a significant window of opportunity for Vodafone.

  • We've just been awarded Leader designation in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for SD-WAN, which provides strong credentials to underpin our ambition in this space.

  • Secondly, our aim is to build the largest global IoT platform.

  • Though already a global leader, we are expanding through key partnerships with AT&T and Arm.

  • Together with AT&T, we bring together the leading IoT players for the automotive segment in Europe and in the U.S., allowing us to offer a car manufacturer a harmonized product and services road map.

  • And with Arm, we will integrate connectivity into the actual chip itself, removing the need for a SIM card ultimately with the potential to connect billions of new devices at a new price point.

  • Finally, Emerging Consumer segment contributing 16% of revenues during the year and grow at 7.5%.

  • The key drivers of this growth, highlighted on the left-hand side, were the ongoing migration of our customer base from voice to data services, from 2G, 3G to 4G handsets and our ability to cross-sell M-Pesa financial services.

  • As you can see, the penetration of all these services is still relatively low, so we see significant growth opportunity ahead.

  • In addition, we've been able to balance inflation with pricing actions, enabling this segment to grow in euro terms during the year.

  • Turning to M-Pesa on the right-hand side.

  • This is now Africa's leading payments platform with 37 million customers, processing 11 billion transactions, a platform that is significantly larger than any African alternative.

  • Given our unique scale, we believe there's an opportunity to leverage strategic partnerships to accelerate the platform's development to be the payments platform of Sub-Sahara Africa.

  • To enable this, we've transformed -- we transferred both the platform and the brand down to Vodacom and Safaricom.

  • So to summarize, the industry remains challenged with low macro visibility.

  • However, we are focused on moving at pace on our strategy.

  • We're starting to deliver more consistent commercial performance, especially in Spain and Italy, which should support a gradual recovery in service revenue from Q2 onwards.

  • We are highly confident on delivering our net OpEx reduction target, given that half of this goal has already been executed.

  • These savings are driven by digital and radical simplification, which is making us structurally a stronger business.

  • We have made good progress on improving asset utilization through network sharing deals, and we're exploring a range of monetization auctions for our towers with a clear focus on value creation.

  • We're on track to close the Liberty acquisition in July and intend to have a fast start on realizing the benefit.

  • And though the decision was not taken lightly, our new dividend policy promises and prioritizes rapid deleveraging towards the lower end of the range in the next few years, improving our financial headroom to deliver the transformation in growth and cash generation we are targeting.

  • In FY '20, we expect to continue to grow with a stronger performance in H2 as we see the benefit of our actions, and we have a clear ambition to continue to grow free cash flow, as demonstrated by our LTIP.

  • And on that, I will let Margherita join me for Q&A.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Oh, sorry, I'm being told that if you could keep it to one question, I know that is always a challenge for this audience, then everyone gets a chance to ask a question.

  • Polo Tang - MD & Head of Telecom Research

  • It's Polo Tang from UBS.

  • I have one question.

  • So the question is really about service revenues.

  • How confident are you that service revenue declines have bottomed out at minus 0.6%?

  • Or are we going to be bumping all over the bottom kind of roundabout here?

  • And if you are confident that we have reached the bottom, what are the key data points and key levers that you would point to in terms of your confidence that things potentially could reflect on top line?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • We are confident that from Q2, we will see a gradual improvement in service revenue trends.

  • We are lapping, obviously, Italy in Q1, we are lapping Spain in Q2 and we are lapping South Africa in Q3.

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • Yes.

  • And I would add that although there are some elements that are still limiting the revenue potential, such as the degree of competitiveness that we still see in the Spanish market, we have seen in the second half of the year good commercial momentum in our drivers of revenue.

  • I would just single out churn.

  • The fact that we have the lowest-ever churn in Europe is going to be a key driver in terms of revenue delivery, which is why, as Nick mentioned, we see through the year a continuous trend upwards.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Share a mic.

  • Georgios Ierodiaconou - Director

  • It's Georgios from Citi.

  • Just a question on the dividend.

  • I'd be interested, first, to give us a perspective given the free cash flow targets you said are still in line with what you have before.

  • And I appreciate the slower service revenue growth.

  • What drove you to make the decision now versus earlier?

  • And also, you are talking about a progressive dividend policy from here.

  • Do you mind sharing with us what will be the components to drive the progression over time?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • I mean, just to give a perspective on the decision around the dividends.

  • I mean, clearly, as you rightly say, that we're maintaining -- we met our guidance on free cash flow.

  • We continue to deliver against our targets on a cumulative basis on our long-term incentive plans on free cash flow, and we've increased our target to EUR 17.7 billion.

  • So -- but however, if I go to go back to November to now, I would call on a couple of factors.

  • I'd say, first of all, revenue trends have been lower.

  • We've had more pressure, I would say a more intense environment in Spain.

  • And obviously, we had headwinds in South Africa, combined with the fact that we've had the German auction, which continues to run on, obviously, at a higher level than we anticipated, along with the CapEx required for the coverage obligations.

  • So I'd say the headroom was getting increasingly tight.

  • And I think there's a moment, as management, where -- and a Board you decide you need to stand back and say, "We need to create more headroom proactively," because we're at a really important moment for the company in terms of its transformation.

  • Whether it's transformation for convergence, whether it's transformation for 5G, whether it's the digital transformation, we need to create more flexibility and more headroom.

  • And therefore, we wanted to proactively accelerate our delevering to do that.

  • Now the dividend wasn't the only mechanism to do that.

  • Of course, we are working the portfolio and other measures as well, but it was one contributing factor.

  • What we wanted to be able to do at the end of this is to say that you have a secure dividend, that the dividend is now set at an appropriate level.

  • If you take the free cash flow of EUR 5.4 billion and then you take off restructuring, let's call it, EUR 200 million, and let's take off the long-term average spectrum, EUR 1.2 billion, you're down to EUR 4 billion, and then you've got a dividend of EUR 2.4 billion.

  • So it's a sort of 60% distribution, which is why we set the level that we did because we feel that now we can have that secure dividend moving forward.

  • And then in terms of progressive, I mean, look, we have to see how the business evolves going forward.

  • Clearly, if you look back, we have been growing our dividend in line with inflation.

  • And clearly, at the moment, our priority is delevering, and, therefore, you shouldn't expect a higher growth from that.

  • I don't know if there's a...

  • Iain Mavers

  • It's Iain Mavers from Barclays.

  • So a question on the cost side.

  • So we all tend to focus on the EUR 1.2 billion number or the EUR 400 million, but you have called out a number of times today lower churn, and you've reduced the A&R expense by EUR 100 million.

  • But I guess, on the other side, you've seen the increase in emerging market costs through inflation.

  • So how should we think about the trajectory of that A&R spend?

  • I mean, you've said churn reducing a number of times.

  • Should we take that EUR 100 million reduction on a EUR 1 billion base and extrapolate it?

  • Is it -- would it be lumpy?

  • Or what confidence do you have that can keep trending down?

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • Yes, the A&R spend is obviously a combination of volumes commercially as well as unitary costs.

  • What we do see in terms of medium-term trends on unitary costs is 2 factors.

  • The first one that I mentioned earlier is the loyalty increase in our base.

  • Clearly, acquiring new customers is more expensive than retaining existing ones, so here we see a continued trend of efficiencies.

  • But the second point, which I think is even more important, if you look at the medium term, is digital.

  • I was mentioning earlier that we now sell 17% of our contract online across Europe.

  • And although this is twice as much as it was 2 years ago, so a good progression, I think, in that area, we're just at the beginning of our journey.

  • And if you think about the baseline that applies to, we spend almost EUR 3 billion per year in commissions across the group.

  • So clearly, evolving digital is an opportunity for further efficiencies in this area.

  • Akhil Dattani - MD and European Telecoms Analyst

  • It's Akhil from JPMorgan.

  • Can I ask a question on the Liberty deal, please?

  • You've -- as you said last week, come out with a pretty comprehensive package in terms of remedies on cable wholesale.

  • I guess I was after a bit of color in terms of the thought process that led you to come out to what you did and how you feel confident that's not going to jeopardize the strategic value of that transaction.

  • And I guess linked to that, the kind of broader question is, you mentioned the need for regulatory change in a more conducive environment at the EC level.

  • How does that tally with the decision to offer these remedies?

  • I guess, if we look at Holland, that was not necessarily for cable consolidation.

  • In Dutch mobile, Deutsche was quite hard-lined about not offering remedies.

  • What was your thought process in terms of conceding on that, given the broader construct for what you're talking about?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • Look, I would somewhat separate the 2. I'm trying to evolve a dialogue moving forward.

  • That will take years, but I want to say let's start now because I think the conditions are very different.

  • And what governments want is high-speed networks throughout the country to enable productivity in a digital society.

  • So my point is, well, if you want that, please support the industry and we will go through that dialogue.

  • So I just want to make sure that there is a change in the conversation if they want to achieve that goal.

  • Specifically to the remedies in Germany, our team and I personally have been very engaged with the EC.

  • The key concern was broadband competition in the Unity footprint.

  • The fact that by us merging with Unity, we were removing a competitor in the marketplace and that a competitor needed to get reinstated.

  • Therefore, our thought process was we would offer a package.

  • We went to the market, discussed with a number of players in the market.

  • We found a partner in TEF.

  • We think they are the right partner strategically, commercially, financially to work with going forward.

  • The package includes speeds up to 300.

  • Of course, we, Vodafone, will have the ability to market up to 1 gig, and we are very much focused in that area.

  • We were only replacing Idea's cell competitor.

  • And therefore, up to 300 we felt was a compelling offer and allows TEF to be a serious competitor in the marketplace.

  • The package proposed does not impact the economics that we discussed at the point of the transaction.

  • And what I would say is now that is going in for market testing.

  • And because it's going into market testing, I really don't want to expand any further other than I believe that is a very comprehensive package that resolves all of the concerns of the EC, which is why I believe we are very confident on completing in July.

  • Okay, going down.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • Okay, sorry for that one.

  • Okay.

  • So just a little bit on -- obviously, we have the rating agencies came out and downgraded the stock and also put you guys on negative watch.

  • I wondered if, when they did that, they obviously have some forward visibility of your business plan, I understand.

  • But I assume they didn't see the New Zealand negotiation.

  • They didn't see visibility of the dividend cut.

  • Could I ask, have you spoken to them yet about the dividend cut, and whether that could adjust their view certainly the negative watch?

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • So no, we have not spoken to them yet.

  • This will happen later this month as usual.

  • I would say that their decisions, and I think they explained them very well in their press releases, didn't include any deleveraging initiative proactively from Vodafone, although it was somehow expected that we will, for example, continue to optimize our footprint.

  • So it was very, very clear, and it doesn't include these decisions.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • So you could possibly assume with the dividend cut that there might be a more proactive debate with them, put it that way?

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • I would let them answer that question.

  • Nick Delfas - Research Analyst

  • Nick Delfas from Redburn.

  • Just a couple of things on Spain on Slide 29 with the pricing that you showed.

  • I just wonder whether you are setting your prices very high for the unlimited option, which is obviously a great product for you within the full network.

  • And the same thing would be true in Italy, where maybe Illiad or MÁSMÓVIL have to buy capacity.

  • So why are you pricing over EUR 40 when your average is around EUR 17, EUR 18?

  • So just a question of philosophy on the pricing structure.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • What I'd say is it was a little bit what I covered.

  • We try to position this to be accretive as we go into the base.

  • We have a number of levers.

  • Obviously, if we want to adjust to get different performance levels, we want to see how this lands in the marketplace.

  • This is really our more-for-more type execution.

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • It's a new concept coming into the market, so it's important to take these opportunities to do more-for-more executions, as Nick is saying, and trying to get the maximum ARPU impact.

  • Nick Delfas - Research Analyst

  • Could I just ask one follow-up on churn?

  • Have you got a target in mind of where you think it should be on a 3-year view?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • I am very much -- this is our ambition, yes, as opposed to guidance, but ambition needs to be single digit.

  • I mean, I just don't understand why we operate with double digit.

  • And we've got to be focused on that.

  • I think with everything we are doing with digital, with having that one-to-one relationship with customers, if we've got a great network, if we have a digital one-to-one relationship, if we are broadening the products and services that we're offering and going from a single mobile contract into now a broad base of many products, I have to believe single digit is possible, and therefore, everyone is focused on it.

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • And we already have 7 markets in Europe, single-digit.

  • Plus, the earlier results of convergence point there.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Can I just reinforce?

  • When I -- I really think that we are transforming our business model as well as our business.

  • So these levers we're pulling, fine, we've always been known for high-quality networks, but radical simplification and digital and the way we're working as a business is a change in our overall business model.

  • And I think we're going to see many benefits of that.

  • Guy Richard Peddy - Head of Telecommunications, Media, and Technology

  • Guy Peddy, Macquarie.

  • Not sure if we're meant to say that, but anyway a quick question on CapEx.

  • You kept your mid-teens CapEx guidance, but since like November, you've announced lots of transactions or hopeful transactions for potential network sharing, which should help your CapEx probably in the midterm as it's going to take a while to flow through.

  • So I'm thinking, for example, for your midterm target, are those network-sharing deals allowing you to do other things, i.e.

  • accelerating 5G?

  • Is it because of Germany, the fact that there will be an incremental cost to rolling out networks there because of the network rollouts?

  • I'm just trying to see what are the moving parts that we should be thinking of as how you scope CapEx going forward.

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • I think that we still need to see the full potential of the network sharing deals.

  • So we have called out, let's say, 2.5 Italy, Spain and the U.K. We are now working also on the other markets.

  • What we see in the network sharing deals is that you have a certain shape to the way the savings are coming through.

  • In the early years, you are actually investing a little bit more because you need to reset the networks.

  • We're adjusting effectively, usually, typically 2 halves of the country to operate in sync.

  • This required to decommission some sites and establish new ones.

  • Typically, what we see at the moment is that these early investments leads a sort of breakeven point in year 3, and then after that, you ramp up gradually to the full potential.

  • So we are talking about a time horizon that should get us from 2022 onwards to start seeing the benefits in our CapEx.

  • I would say it's early days to think about how we will look at the mix at that point.

  • For sure, this only, I would say, adds to our level of comfort in thinking that we can operate within the mid-teens targets.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • I mean, just to build a couple of points.

  • I would say that, clearly, the benefits of sharing is we believe we can deliver a leading network in terms of quality.

  • We're also ensuring we have still a high degree of differentiation because we're not doing the active in the metro areas, so it is a differentiated experience, plus we have our own spectrum, et cetera.

  • And then we're creating strategic flexibility by doing this because it gives us the opportunity to invest in other areas if we want or actually take it to free cash flow.

  • So I think it ticks a lot of boxes.

  • And also, it's good for, if you like, coverage obligations, good for commitments to governments, et cetera.

  • So I really think it's a very good positive development, and, of course, ultimately, gives us optionality on tower monetization on the second step.

  • Let me just see -- it's easier if I just go through and then roundabout.

  • Usman Ghazi - Analyst

  • It's Usman from Berenberg.

  • Under service revenue trends, I guess, going into H2, one of the biggest risk factors is Spanish TV customers, if Telefónica decides to have another go at whatever remaining football customers you have remaining.

  • I know that their cost savings that are coming in, that will offset that.

  • But just in terms of your confidence in the second half recovery, how are you thinking about the potential risk that Spain flares up again and you lose a bunch of TV customers?

  • And just related to that, I guess, if you could -- if it is possible to tell us how many of the football TV customers you have lost so far.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • So we've lost 90,000 football customers, which, frankly, was in line with our expectation.

  • These are, if you like, the more hardened football fans, so they would definitely switch.

  • You could argue that the others are not quite as passionate, if there's such a thing as a non-passionate football Spanish customer.

  • We would expect to lose some customers, further losses, so that is in our expectations for Spain.

  • But as you saw on the porting charts, I think we are performing well against TEF and Orange.

  • We're competing head-to-head.

  • We're competing well against MÁSMÓVIL.

  • So I think what we've done in Spain is really reposition the company.

  • It doesn't now matter how intense the market is, we have a really effective second brand in Lowi.

  • We're competing well in the higher end, and we're taking a lot of costs out.

  • So we have financial flexibility, given the OpEx reduction in cost.

  • So that's why we're very confident on second half EBITDA growth.

  • Sorry, go to the back, and then we come across.

  • Jeremy A. Dellis - MD & Senior Telecommunications Analyst

  • Yes, it's Jerry Dellis from Jefferies.

  • I'd be grateful if you could outline, please, the components that would put Vodafone in a position of sustainably growing group organic service revenues.

  • See, once you get through the near term lift from the sort of easier comps in Q1, Q2, Q3, what is it that really keeps the Vodafone Group growing?

  • It strikes me that some of the areas in which you are doing commercially better, such as consumer fixed broadband and also enterprise, essentially require a situation in which you're taking market share as another operator's expense, and that feels like quite a competitively disruptive sort of thing to be doing.

  • So is there a way of Vodafone growing in perhaps a more oligopolistic fashion over the medium and longer-term?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes, I'm not so sure I'd quite answer it like that.

  • But what I would say, I mean, I think the framework that I tried to present in the second half, so I apologize if it wasn't effective enough for you, look, they -- what I would say is unlimited 5-tiered 5G going forward, I think, is an opportunity to move customers up the ladder and monetize.

  • Of course, is that in our [gist].

  • Do other large incumbents need to follow a similar path?

  • Yes, they do, which is why we felt it's really important to go out quickly with the concept, and let's see how it's adopted.

  • Of course, it can be undermined.

  • If it's undermined, the opportunity goes away for the industry, not just for Vodafone.

  • I'd argue, and I'm trying to stress in my presentation, that I think it's a constructive development for the industry that they should take.

  • I would also say fixed broadband, I mean, we have a fantastic asset, especially post Liberty Global, unique compared to any other player in the marketplace.

  • So that will be a unique engine of growth for us going forward.

  • We are being very successful in converged.

  • So we added 1 million converged customers over the year.

  • And you can see the process we're doing, simplify [how we sell] so we sell more product.

  • So we see a number of opportunities for us to execute a growth in revenue that maybe others would struggle to do in that sector.

  • So I wouldn't necessarily put us within the sector in that respect.

  • I think enterprise, we have a unique set of assets and footprint, and we have demonstrated systematically that we are taking share at other people's expense.

  • SD-WAN is a massive opportunity for us because that's a moment when corporate customers decide, "Okay, I need to move to SD-WAN." They will all move over the next 5 years.

  • They will need to move to that next.

  • And I think it's a reevaluation moment that we've never had before.

  • So it's a little bit how I'm looking at it.

  • Over the next 5 years, we have a number of unique opportunities to grab, but we have to go aggressively now to grab the opportunity.

  • And then I think our enterprise -- sorry, our merging footprint is a strong set of #1 leading positions through Africa, and M-Pesa is a fantastic platform.

  • So look, I see you're right to say we've a got to lap a number of things, Q1, 2, 3. Once we're through there, where's my confidence coming through, is this.

  • Robert James Grindle - Research Analyst

  • Yes, it's Robert from Deutsche Bank.

  • Firstly, a point of clarification on the LTIP free cash flow guidance over 3 years.

  • I think it includes the integration cost for Liberty.

  • I don't think we've been given the 3-year integration cost for Liberty, so if we could have that, please.

  • And my question is you were early to engage with CityFibre in the U.K. on the first 1 million homes taking the volumes off them, but you've been quite quiet since.

  • Are you engaging with the other alt FTTH builders in the U.K.?

  • How do you see that developing from a Vodafone perspective in the near-term?

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • Yes, I can take Liberty.

  • We did indicate that we expected EUR 1.2 billion of integration costs, of which circa 70% in the first 3 years.

  • So that gives you a reference.

  • Clearly, the net number after this integration cost in terms of contribution is relatively limited.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • CityFibre, I would say good, solid delivery, live in 5, I think 2 more cities coming up, a bit early to talk about really commercial progress.

  • What I'd say is, have we made the decision to go from 1 to 5 yet?

  • No, because we need to see the performance.

  • So we need to keep seeing them continue to drive forward.

  • You want to do it for me?

  • Robert James Grindle - Research Analyst

  • I was wondering if he's finished.

  • Since you're wholesaling broadband in Germany, would you consider wholesaling in broadband in the U.K. if that was offered -- cable broadband, I mean?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Sorry, 4G want to us offer cable?

  • Robert James Grindle - Research Analyst

  • Yes, would you do that?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • No, of course, we will.

  • Look, we just want to focus on driving fixed broadband ads and convergence over time, securing our mobile position in the marketplace.

  • I think we're doing a really good job.

  • I mean, I think, Nick Jeffery, our CEO in the U.K., has really energized the business.

  • He's driving it forward.

  • And we did, what, 200,000 -- more or less 200,000 fixed broadband net adds over the year?

  • I mean, that's pretty good performance.

  • In terms of the net adds in the marketplace, I think that was significant.

  • I haven't got the percentage, but I think we are the strongest player.

  • So what I'd say is we want to keep that momentum.

  • So we will talk to all providers clearly on good commercial terms.

  • John Karidis - Analyst

  • It's John Karidis here from Numis.

  • One big question and a tiny one, given that Nick Jeffery isn't here, if I may.

  • The big question is about 5G.

  • So you talked about the sort of various benefits.

  • If I look at Verizon or AT&T, they talk about edge computing.

  • They talk about millimeter wave spectrum.

  • I haven't heard Vodafone talk about either, and I just sort of wonder whether 5G for the next couple of years in Europe is going to be more marketing rather than true things -- true services like ultra-low latency and all the other good stuff that we're talking about, given that we're missing fundamental network enablers for 5G.

  • So that's the big question.

  • And the second question, given that Nick isn't here, again, back -- I'll try again.

  • CityFibre, does it deserve mention in your quarterly numbers?

  • I sort of wonder -- you said you haven't given -- it's too early to talk about commercials, but can you talk at least about how many -- how big is the footprint?

  • How many -- the cities that you're talking about, how many potential households will you be able to reach at the end of this year or next year?

  • Is it a few thousand or a few hundred thousand?

  • We have no idea at this stage, I'm afraid, so any help would be useful.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • On CityFibre, to be honest, I have to come back.

  • Look, at this point, it's not material for us, but in terms of their execution, they're tracking solidly to the plans they committed to, but, yes, if you can follow up with the IR team on specifics.

  • In terms of 5G, I think you have the wrong read there in terms of 5G.

  • We are very committed to 5G.

  • And I wouldn't say that we are seriously launching and now rolling out.

  • I mean, 50 cities across the year, I think, is a serious operation launch.

  • We're doing 19 in the U.K. this year.

  • So we are very committed to 5G.

  • Of course, we have to get the combination of equipment, handsets and spectrum available.

  • And so spectrum has been holding us back, and also the equipment availability as for the rollout.

  • I'd say all of those things are coming together over the next 2 months that we're good to go in a good number of markets.

  • So I'd say then you're going to start to see the momentum.

  • I think what you will see is that there is a good cost play for us in major metro areas, where there is large data volume.

  • And therefore, I think you're going to see that from all players, work the major cities out rather than any other type of execution.

  • And I would draw a distinction between us and the U.S., which is our millimeter wave.

  • That is the spectrum that we are executing on in Europe.

  • And of course, we want to do more integrated 4G-5G play.

  • Stephen Howard - Head of Global Telecoms, Media and Technology Research

  • It's Stephen Howard at HSBC.

  • The topic is network sharing in towers again.

  • I was hoping I might get you to talk a little bit more about some of the risks here.

  • So if I take the various Italian agreements that you've been busy signing, as far as I can see, this is going to create Italy's dominant mobile infrastructure provider.

  • That sounds, to me, like the kind of thing that's going to go Brussels for review by the European Commission.

  • We've just seen with the Unitymedia deal that you've had to offer up what I consider to be some fairly worrisomely extensive remedies in order to get that through.

  • Not your fault, I'm sure, but that just is the prevailing regulatory attitude.

  • So perhaps you could just reassure us that you won't find yourself compelled to give away more access than you would like to the infrastructure.

  • Because going back to your early point about why is churn high in this industry, well, surely, one reason churn is high is because customers don't see the differentiation and see sufficient differentiation between the networks.

  • So is there a risk here that you wind up compromising your ability to differentiate because of the remedies that you've got to offer up?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • I think, Stephen, you're making some important points, of which, of course, we went through our consideration.

  • So if I just sort of summarize how I'm thinking about this is, so fine, when we do a tower company, the tower company will have to offer towers to other tenancies in the countries.

  • I think the possibility of just making it between 2 large players, I think, would have a major issue in terms of competition, whether local or Brussels.

  • I think Italy itself, I think our view is it will remain local, but there could be the possibility it goes to EC.

  • Don't see it's a given that it goes to EC.

  • What I would say is it comes down to pricing of the rates to go on towers.

  • There's other considerations like do you put your strategic towers in?

  • Don't put strategic towers in.

  • So you have a choice of what goes into that entity or not.

  • You've also got other considerations like loading on the towers.

  • So fine, the tower might be able take 2. Can it take 3?

  • No, therefore, there's a cost for someone to upgrade the tower if they want to come on.

  • So to be honest, there's a lot of details that we go through.

  • So that's why when we announce an MoU, it takes 5 or 6 months to go through contracting because we have to align around the number of these principles.

  • So I'd say that's the sharing of the passive.

  • Then you have to think about the active sharing.

  • From an active sharing perspective, the large metros are not included.

  • It's only outside of that.

  • And therefore, we don't see that as part of any requirement from a competition perspective.

  • We see that as a benefit on coverage being delivered, yes, but not on a national basis.

  • And so, therefore, we see less regulatory intervention on the active side.

  • And then finally, you've got your spectrum holding.

  • So Italy would be a really good example.

  • Ourselves and TI obviously got a significant amount of spectrum for 5G.

  • The others didn't.

  • They have to use their own spectrum.

  • So look at it as we analyze the various components within a package, so that we can land the industrial synergies without undermining our differentiation in the marketplace.

  • Jakob Bluestone - Research Analyst

  • Jakob Bluestone from Crédit Suisse.

  • If I can just get back to the service revenue topic.

  • And obviously, it was an important part in the decision to change the dividend alongside leverage.

  • I'm just sort of hoping to understand a little bit better where do you think service revenue can sort of end up 1 or 2 years out.

  • And particularly also how -- and how important is -- or what sort of revenue growth do you think you would need to get back to start growing the dividend again?

  • I mean, would you be willing to grow the dividend with flat revenues?

  • Or do you really need to see sort of meaningful revenue growth before we start talking about growing the dividend more meaningfully?

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • So on the service revenue performance overall, without sort of going back again through the dynamics of this year because we have mentioned them before, but let me tell you that the key element in this progression for the remaining part of the year is going to be the degree of competitiveness in Spain, which is still quite high.

  • Once you go through the various phases I was mentioning before, which is quarterly lapping of our earlier FY '19 impacts, you can get to a position where you go more towards long-term projection of revenue, which are based differential on the various factors that Nick was declaring before.

  • I would say if you look at our markets today, you will see that outside of Italy and Spain, you have good revenue format today in Europe.

  • So what we need to get to is a position in which this performance is the European performance overall, driven by low churn, good growth in broadband and a more stable competitive environment.

  • Samuel McHugh - Analyst of Telecom Operators

  • It's Sam McHugh from Exane here.

  • Just kind of a big-picture commercial question for you, if you like.

  • So a year ago, we talked a lot more about more-for-more pricing and you getting your fair share of the high, medium and low-end of your markets, given that after you stopped doing a lot of MVNOs you felt like some other people were perhaps taking advantage of you in those segments of the market.

  • Now that strategy has ultimately led to negative service revenue growth.

  • And today, you seem to have shifted a bit by talking about simplification of plans, but still hoping to take ARPUs up.

  • And also, you mentioned an increasing focus on monetizing your existing base.

  • So I guess, what I'd like to ask, is this a signal that you want to be more rational again to all your competitors?

  • And then isn't there a risk that this just plays out exactly like it did in the past with people trying to take advantage of you again as you kind of shift to raise prices and focus just on your own customer base?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • I think it's important to go back to what I was saying in November because the point I was trying to register about driving more consistent commercial performance was saying we have to compete at the high, the mid and the low.

  • Now, actually, let's start at the low.

  • What we did was we came out of wholesale because we said, "Okay, we're not going to wholesale the great network that we did on 4G." Others did, so we lost that revenue.

  • But the mistake that we made was we didn't really replace it with a second brand or a value proposition.

  • And so we under-indexed in the low-value segment.

  • What I said was, "We will correct that." And we are going to compete in the value whether it's for a second brand, whether it's through a product.

  • It could be through wholesale, but not at discounted prices.

  • So the point is we just need to be participating in that segment.

  • And I think you'll see in the performance, whether it's Italy, Spain, et cetera, of us doing that.

  • I think in the mid, we sort of said, look, there's an opportunity in digital.

  • So what we do is we essentially delve down the proposition and have lower cost of delivery, whether it's commissions or whatever it is, and therefore, protect the margin but at a lower price point.

  • And we are doing a number of offers there.

  • At the top end, we're simplifying the proposition.

  • We are doing the tiered unlimited in a number of markets, not all markets and not all above the line.

  • I won't call that -- I mean, it's a rational approach to monetizing unlimited.

  • The market can follow or it can't.

  • If it doesn't, we will compete.

  • So don't see it as we will sit there all principled under-indexing on performance saying, "Well, I wonder why no one followed us." We're saying we think that's the right approach for the industry.

  • We highly recommend the industry goes down that path.

  • But if they chose not to, by market, we will respond.

  • So we will compete on all 3 levels.

  • Andrew J. Lee - Equity Analyst

  • It's Andrew Lee from Goldman Sachs.

  • I had a question on your deleveraging activities and the role of infrastructure funds in investment houses in that.

  • If you could just give us some more color on the opportunity.

  • I mean, we've seen you monetize in New Zealand overnight.

  • And how much more scope is there for you to benefit from this?

  • How widely would you look across your portfolio of assets to monetize rather than do things like network sharing?

  • And how wide is the interest from these funds?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Look, what I'd say is I think we've been very active on the portfolio.

  • I mean, you look back, we've done Qatar.

  • We've done lots of activity in India.

  • We've done -- or we're trying to do Australia, New Zealand.

  • We've put Safaricom into Vodacom.

  • We monetized some of our stakeout of Vodacom.

  • So I think the one message I'd have is, when we say we continuously optimize our portfolio, we're continuously optimizing the portfolio.

  • I think the additional opportunity is things we can do with towers.

  • And I think the important thing is there's a window of opportunity with 5G coming to do the industrial synergies around network sharing.

  • So at the moment, the focus is to land those deals in each of the key markets, so that we land the future profile of a strong network, as we discussed before.

  • But I think, simultaneously, we can review opportunities around monetization.

  • And the key is the -- obviously, the multiples that potentially these infra funds are willing to pay that multiple compared to, you could argue, the incremental financing cost of hybrids, et cetera, sitting at 4%.

  • So I think that we would do something if we can see a clear path to value creation.

  • In some instances like Italy, to realize the industrial synergies, you have to do the monetization [anyway] because TI has already done that.

  • So we unlock the industrial synergies.

  • So see it as like a market-by-market situation, always with the mindset of not wanting to undermine our differentiation or strategic position.

  • Andrew J. Lee - Equity Analyst

  • I just want to ask a quick follow-up on that just in terms of the balance.

  • You mentioned the balance in terms of the multiples you get versus your funding cost, but can you just talk briefly maybe about the balance between selling at a high multiple, but then committing your retail business to a ratcheting cost base that's involved in selling to certainly tower companies?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • Look, there's a little bit here around if you've done the sharing, then by definition, there's a partner on the other side, and these are the considerations you go through, yes?

  • So what I'd say is not just in (inaudible) we will be discussing with them because it's all about where you set that anchored tenancy ratio is really fundamental.

  • And then what are the MSA's escalations?

  • I mean, I don't want to bore you with it all, but these were all the considerations.

  • That's why it takes 5, 6 months to go through these things, it's because you've got to go through all those details to set your business correctly up for the long-term.

  • And with a number of these relationships, our sales, along with the partner, want to maintain control of the tower company, which will be the situation in Italy as an example.

  • Emmet Bryan Kelly - Head of European Telecoms Research

  • It's Emmet Kelly, Morgan Stanley.

  • I have a question, please, on the Italian business.

  • So it's exactly 1 year since Iliad launched in Italy.

  • And it obviously was a bit of a shock and awe when they launched 1 year ago.

  • But if I look at what's happening in the last couple of quarters, you see price rises from Vodafone, from TI.

  • You've also seen a big net-add slowdown at Iliad.

  • I think they were attracting 500,000 to 600,000 subs a month originally, announced down to 400,00 or 500,000 per quarter.

  • Is it fair to say the worst is probably behind us?

  • And are you comfortable that you have repriced a very large portion of your back book, the ones that needed to have their price adjusted?

  • Or is there still much more to go on that?

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • Sure.

  • As usual, I would preface by saying being a prepaid market, Italy tends to be quite volatile on, I would say, both directions over time.

  • What we have seen in the last year is, as you mentioned, a gradual spin down of our base towards lower ARPUs as the result of the price wars triggered by the entrance of Iliad and, in some cases, preceding the actual entrance of Iliad.

  • What we see now is 2 strong signals of stabilization.

  • The first one is that the volumes of mobile number portability have drastically reduced.

  • We are now back to levels which we have not seen since 2016, so well before Iliad's entry.

  • And then we have repositioned the pricing of not just the new connections, but also the customer base gradually throughout the last 2 quarters.

  • The entry-level pricing, just to give you an idea, for the top tier players at the moment in Italy is EUR 19.

  • And for the second brands, we are talking about EUR 13.

  • So the fact that these price points have grown gradually effectively acts as a limitation in terms of the movement of the customer base towards lower price plans.

  • It's effectively sort of closing the gap at the moment in this direction.

  • And by the way, similar price movements have happened on the fixed side of the business.

  • So that, at the moment, is all positive.

  • I think if you look forward, the critical element for the development of the Italian market is still going to be Iliad's pricing.

  • They are still, at the moment, at EUR 7.99, a position that we believe is margin-negative on a variable basis.

  • The question is when and how will they move out of that position, where there was actually a quick glimpse because a month ago, they tried something which was called a flash sale at EUR 10.

  • Yes, it sounds like the opposite of a sale.

  • In reality, were a few more gigabytes in the price plans, but still it stayed on the market, I think, for about a week and then came out.

  • I think in terms of longer-term development of the market, it's quite critical to understand how this pricing repositioning at their end can happen.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • James, you've been really patient.

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • You are our last question of the day.

  • James Edmund Ratzer - Europe Team Head & Analyst

  • Hopefully I can take advantage of my patience and maybe ask 2 quick questions then, please.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Abused.

  • James Edmund Ratzer - Europe Team Head & Analyst

  • Abuse, sorry, yes.

  • So just first one on the balance sheet, please.

  • I mean, you have guided quite clearly that you want to manage down to 2.5x net debt-to-EBITDA.

  • Why 2.5x out of interest?

  • I mean, it seems like your free cash flow guidance is moving up.

  • There's maybe less regulatory intervention in the sector.

  • You just raised EUR 20 billion at 2% cost of debt in the credit market for what your rate -- your leverage is going to be 3x.

  • So you're not doing equity investors a disservice by deleveraging the balance sheet.

  • Could it not be run more aggressively?

  • And then the second question, quick one just on EBITDA guidance.

  • It looks like you're guiding to around 2% growth at the midpoint of the range, similar to what you did last year organically, but yet you've given pretty clear guidance that Spain should improve.

  • I'd like to think Italy should as well.

  • So what's getting worse?

  • Or is the EBITDA guidance conservative?

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • These are both great questions for you.

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • In terms of EBITDA guidance, you're right, what we see in terms of mix of countries going into the year is Spain improving.

  • But equally, if you look back at the year that we have just closed, we had some strong performances in markets which may, this year, not replicate at the same level.

  • An example for everyone could be the U.K., where we have grown EBITDA double-digit this year.

  • And it's unlikely that we will replicate these, for example, in a market where the annual license fee is increasing.

  • So that's for the mix.

  • Clearly, the guidance is ranged, so it could move between the 2 extremes depending on the overall conditions.

  • What is sure is that in terms of phasing throughout the year, we are seeing that half 2 is going to be the strong point.

  • Remember that in half 1, we are lapping some very tough comparatives.

  • Last year, in half 1, the revenue growth was 1%.

  • So clearly, we will see the difference from that.

  • We do see half 2 as the really step change in terms of speed.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Balance sheet?

  • Margherita Della Valle - Group CFO & Director

  • On the balance sheet, why 2.5?

  • I think Nick talked to the fact that we see our cash flow generation on change guidance hit, but at the same time, we see around us a more uncertain competitive -- uncertain environment more broadly.

  • And we want to be really flexible and maintain headroom in terms of how we operate within this environment in the context of all the transformations that we are executing.

  • We think our shareholders will value the fact that we are strengthening our positions on moving quickly towards the bottom end of our leverage range.

  • As Nick was mentioning earlier, we plan to do this with a package of initiatives.

  • It's not just the dividend.

  • If you take, for example, what we have announced today, we have the dividend.

  • We have the sale of New Zealand.

  • Collectively, this take-out 0.4 of a turn in the next 3 years and are part of this intention to really lighten the load of debt as we move forward to gain flexibility.

  • Nicholas Jonathan Read - CEO & Executive Director

  • Yes.

  • I think, importantly, this is a proactive move that if you sit back and you say were that to be a downside to an REO recession whatever or a lower economic cycle really competitively positions us with a strong balance sheet and a very secure dividend to do the transformation we're looking for.

  • And on that, thank you very much for attending.

  • If you've got further questions, I'm happy to take them outside over coffee.