Energy Fuels Inc (UUUU) 2023 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, and welcome, to the Energy Fuels' second-quarter 2023 conference call. (Operator Instructions)

  • I will now hand the call over to Mr. Chalmers, CEO of Energy Fuels. You may begin your conference.

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Thank you very much for the introduction, and good morning or afternoon, depending on where you're joining from. And I want to thank everyone for joining the Energy Fuels Q2 '23 conference call and webcast today. We are always excited to discuss our results and our significant accomplishments that we continue to make. For those that cannot join the call today, there will be replays of this presentation available for two weeks on our website starting later today or tomorrow.

  • Every quarter, I say we're making remarkable progress on many fronts, and this quarter is no different. Energy Fuels is likely one of the biggest success stories on decarbonization, electrification, while we also emerge as a clear leader in US critical mineral production. And this is at a time when it has never been more important.

  • We are a unique investment. No other company I know has the ability to advance uranium, vanadium, and rare earth production capabilities, while at the same time advancing our medical isotope aspirations. And we're doing this while we continue to maintain a very strong balance sheet with zero debt.

  • Today, I'll elaborate on these accomplishments for the quarter and provide details of what I think the rest of the year will look like. I also want to remind everyone that you are controlling your slides to the presentation from your own device, and I'll try to remember to tell you when to say next slide. There will be time for questions at the end of the presentation, and during the question-and-answer session, Dave Frydenlund, our Executive Vice President, Chief Legal Officer; and Tom Brock, our CFO, will be available to answer any questions I cannot answer, so let's jump into the presentation.

  • This first slide showing a picture of the remarkable White Mesa Mill, which is the critical mineral hub. It's our main asset for the company, producing critical materials for the clean energy transition. And there is really no facility like it that I know of in the world.

  • Next slide. I may be making some forward-looking statements, and those are included in the slide number two.

  • Next slide. So Energy Fuels is a leading US producer of uranium, vanadium, and rare earth elements, creating clean energy for a better world.

  • Next slide. And I've talked about the periodic table before, but it is also good to talk about it again because I want to remind people of all these new elements that are required for decarbonization and electrification that nobody even talked about 10 or 15, 20 years ago. And Energy Fuels, between our uranium activities, rare earth activities, vanadium, and potential to recover radium for medical isotopes, is going to be or currently is or will be able to recover between eight and 10 of these elements on the periodic table. And I don't know of any other company that will be able to say they'll be able to recover that many elements in due course.

  • So it's very important. It's the future of decarbonization, electrification. And we're very proud of that and the way that we've been able to place and position the White Mesa Mill in our assets to do this effectively. Next slide.

  • So again, just to remind people, uranium for nuclear energy, which provides 50% of the US zero carbon electricity, which is very important for decarbonization, and it's almost impossible to meet the goals of decarbonizing without nuclear energy. Rare earths, critical elements used for the powerful magnets used in electric vehicles, wind, and other high tech appliances. And it is truly remarkable. If you want the highest efficiency electric vehicle, it needs rare earths to be the most efficient.

  • Vanadium primarily used for high-strength steel, but also used in and getting increasing uses for grid-scale batteries. The medical isotopes, as I mentioned, we're advancing our strategy to recover primarily radium-226 and 228 for emerging cancer therapies. We also continue to recycle uranium- and vanadium-bearing materials, and nobody else in the US has the ability to do that like Energy Fuels. It has been an important part of our business in up and down markets, particularly down markets. And we're always very proud of our financial strength, with significant cash in inventories, and I'll talk about that more later.

  • Next slide. So now for the Q2 highlights and the picture of the Pinyon Plain Mine that I built in 1987. And it's really, again, a remarkable deposit.

  • Next slide. So we ended the quarter June 30 with $134 million of working capital that is made up of $35 million in cash, $64 million of marketable securities, and $33 million of product inventory. If you adjust to current commodity prices, you can easily add another $18 or so million dollars to that working capital at current market value of that inventory.

  • As I mentioned, zero debt, which we're very proud of because we have probably somewhere in the order of $1 billion with assets. And we still hold 766,000 pounds of finished uranium, about 900,000 pounds of finished vanadium, and about 37 tonnes of finished high-purity, partially separated rare earth carbonate in the inventory.

  • Next slide. During Q2, we did sell some uranium to a major US nuclear utility, about 80,000 pounds. That was around $4.3 million at around $54 a pound, but a gross profit -- and I want to highlight this -- with a gross margin of about 46%. We're still producing or still readying four conventional uranium, vanadium mines. That includes the La Sal Complex, the Beaver Shaft, the Whirlwind, and the Pinyon Plain Mine in Arizona, and final production decisions on these projects will be made based on our inventory levels and market conditions.

  • We also sold PFN technology to enCore for $3.1 million. We had bought the PFN for around 500,000 pounds. We made a gain of $2.7 5 million on the sale of the PFN, but we also have the rights to use that if we need it in the future. And right now, we don't have any projects that require the PFN. So we made some -- a nice little profit on the sale of the PFN.

  • And in addition to the 766,000 pounds of finished uranium inventories, we have nearly 400,000 pounds of uranium in-circuit and raw materials at the White Mesa Mill. So we really have in the order of 1.2 million pounds of uranium in the inventory in in-circuit or in raw materials.

  • Next slide. Rare earth production. We produced approximately 99 metric tonnes of high-purity, partially separated rare earth carbonate from monazite, and that included approximately 44 metric tonnes of total rare earth oxides. And we are producing the most advanced rare earth material being produced in the United States today.

  • On our Phase 1 rare earth separation project, which should be operational last quarter this year or first quarter next year, we're very excited about that. We are modifying and enhancing the existing solvent extraction circuit at the mill to produce separated oxides. And I think this is the only example of this that I know of in the world where we'll have a uranium circuit, vanadium circuit, and rare earth circuit, all in one building. We expect to have the production capacity of the rare earth circuit up to 1,000 metric tonnes of NdPr per year.

  • Development work has begun. We have ordered most components that are expected to be delivered in Q3. And we expect the Phase 1 cost to build out the separation plant to be a remarkable $25 million which is absolutely very low cost relative to others because we're doing it in existing infrastructure.

  • Next slide. Our Phase 2 separation project. We're doing further engineering work on that to be in a position given enough monazite feed around 2026 to produce three to four times what the Phase 1 project is capable of doing. The Phase 2 project will also include a standalone crack and leach circuit at the mill, enabling us to produce and refine both rare earths and uranium and vanadium at the same time.

  • Phase 3 is focused on the heavies, but we do plan to do heavy separations later this year in the laboratory, and that will be focused on the Dy and the Tb which are two very valuable heavy rare earths required to make the most robust electric engines that are more heat -- have more heat capabilities than the Dy and the Tb or the dysprosium and the terbium -- excuse me, the NdPr. Sorry.

  • We also acquired the Bahia Project in February, and we're advancing that. We have this substantial land position around 60 square miles with a potential in time to produce between 3,000 to 10,000 tonnes of monazite sands. We've done our Phase 1 drilling. We have purchased a drill rig. We have people being trained on that rig right now, and we're shipping that rig down to Brazil here in the next month or so. And we'll start our Phase 2 drilling campaign with our own rig.

  • Next slide. Vanadium sales. We didn't make any vanadium sales in Q2, but we still have the ability to go back into vanadium production quite quickly. And we -- but what we did sell in Q1, we sold -- it was about a 37% margin. And it's still an important part of our business plan, but it's not the main focus of the company. But it is the only conventional vanadium processing facility in the United States. And as I said, we have nearly or approximately 900,000 pounds of vanadium in inventory.

  • Next slide. And again, looking at our working capital, $134 million of working capital and zero debt. I mentioned the uranium inventory that we have, both finished process and in progress, and the vanadium inventories, and if you adjust for current prices, the inventory is worth anywhere of $20 million more than what's included in the working capital. And I want to add that it does not include -- it does not include our note that we hold with enCore or some of our other investments, so we are in a very, very strong and enviable position with our balance sheet.

  • Next slide. So looking at our guidance, we'll sell approximately 560,000 pounds of uranium this year at an average price of between $58, $60 a pound. We already sold 300,000 pounds to the US uranium reserve. We sold the 80,000 pounds I mentioned earlier, and we'll sell another 180,000 pounds which is equivalent to about another $10 million of revenue that is already contracted to be sold.

  • We expect to put at least one new uranium mine in production later this year or early next year. We're seeking additional long-term supply agreements at higher prices. And we're really focused on the rare earths sector at the mill this year. We're not planning to produce any uranium, vanadium in 2022.

  • We still plan to process around 600 metric tonnes of monazite and recover around 150 to 170 metric tonnes of REO in '23. And we plan to advance and commission our Phase 1 separation plant later this year or early next year.

  • We are also seeking rare earth offtakes. We're looking to continue to build our supply of monazite. We continue to talk to a number of parties and are in advanced discussions with a number of them. It will be a really good day when I can get more information on that in advancing the Bahia project, as I mentioned earlier, and we'll advance it through SK-1300 assessment reports and 43-101.

  • So in closing, next slide, just the sun setting in Southern Utah, very pretty picture here. And I'd like to open it up for any questions anyone may have.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Heiko Ihle, H.C. Wainwright.

  • Heiko Ihle - Analyst

  • Hey, Mark, can you hear me okay?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Yeah, I hear you fine, Heiko.

  • Heiko Ihle - Analyst

  • Perfect. I'm calling in from some little island down in Italy, so apologies if the receptions isn't all that great. Anyways, excited for all these arrows in your future to have some money, so let's keep that going. Walking through the 403,000 pounds of U3O8 that you have in raw materials work in progress inventory, walk me through where we might stand by the end of the year, both -- even on the vanadium level as well, but also the U3O8 level, please?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • You want to walk -- you want me to walk you through in the 400,000 of raw materials in unfinished uranium?

  • Heiko Ihle - Analyst

  • Correct, like end of the year plans?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Okay. Well, we're not planning to do any additional finished product of uranium this year, Heiko. We mentioned the 400,000 pounds because we have alternate feed, but we also have various uranium ores. For example, we have material that came from the Mount Taylor Project, and it's sitting in stockpile at the mill. And we can process that when we decide we want to process that to make that 400,000 pounds into finished goods to complement the 760,000 pounds we already have.

  • We're mainly focused on the rare earths of getting this Phase 1 up and running during the end, last half of this year and early next year. And then we're looking at a potential mill run in the next year or two when we decide we want to do the mill run for uranium ores and potentially vanadium ores.

  • Heiko Ihle - Analyst

  • That's helpful. Thank you. You want to go for maybe some longer term expectations as well?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Yeah. As we said, when we look at the -- let's start with the uranium business. We have the assets to get up to between 1.5 million and 2 million pounds of uranium production per year. We want to build that out when we get more contracts. Right now, our contracts are going to be in the order of around 500,000 pounds a year, so we really don't have the need, unless the price of uranium goes up substantially, to produce a whole lot more than that 500,000 pounds per year. So we're going to continue to underpin that with more contracts. But we can get up to that 1.5 million to 2 million pounds with limited capital, really just working capital.

  • Now on the rare earth front, we have the ability or we'll have the ability in Q1 to produce up to 1,000 metric tonnes of NdPr. We believe we're starting to have line of sight to get to maybe half of that. We hope -- it's not guaranteed, but we hope to be able to get up to about half of that looking to 2024. And we plan to continue to build additional feeds of monazite hopefully in a material way to get Phase 1 completely booked out in at full capacity in the next year or so.

  • Meanwhile, we'll continue to engineer and permit where required for Phase 2 which will be 3x to 4x the Phase 1. And that'll all be subject to securing a significant amount of monazite to require the buildout of Phase 2. And so -- but we are aggressively -- when we start looking at who we're talking to and the kind of quantities that we're talking to through the various parties, we think that Phase 2 securing enough feed is very possible in the not-too-distant future. But we still got to get a few more of these coordinates lined up here in binding arrangements and commitments.

  • Heiko Ihle - Analyst

  • That's helpful. Thank you. Moving on from all of that, I mean, one sentence in your release really struck my curiosity when you were talking about the engineering of the enhancements for the plants for the NdPr. And I assume the same probably holds true for most people on this call. When you're trying to get the 3,000 metric tonnes by the end of '26 with your Phase 2, can you maybe walk me through some of the investments into the area? What exactly you have to spend on your plants for the future year by year as much as you can, and also longer term monetary impacts that you are just mentally working with what you're expecting to see?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Yeah. Well, the Phase 1, as I said, that's around $25 million. And that gets us up to, say, up to 1,000 tonnes of NdPr per year. And that's low because we're doing the crack and leach in the mill. And we're using existing SX building for the separation stage. So that's very low. And it's -- but it's a very attractive strike rate, obviously, on capital.

  • We do not have all the final engineering completed on Phase 2, but we believe it could be between $250 million to maybe $350 million, somewhere in that order. That would provide a facility that would do 3,000 tonnes to 4,000 tonnes a year of NdPr. But it doesn't mean that that Phase 1 facility also wouldn't still potentially be operational. But the Phase 2 facility will include its own crack and leach circuit, so we don't have to do any flip flopping of the current uranium, vanadium mill between uranium runs and rare earth runs.

  • So we believe that our operating costs are going to be low and really is competitive, not as low as anybody outside of China. And -- but we have to show that we've secured enough monazite to run that on through.

  • Heiko Ihle - Analyst

  • Fair enough. That's very helpful. I'll stop hogging the question queue here and get back in queue. But thanks so much for answering your questions and keep on going all the different directions that you're going. I think it's very impressive.

  • Operator

  • Mike Heim, Noble Capital Markets.

  • Mike Heim - Analyst

  • You just said that you believe your operating costs for the NdPr should be as low as anybody outside of China. If I were to look at minus or one of those and talk about gross margins, which we've never really talked about, is it reasonable be thinking about 50, 60, maybe even 70?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Well, yeah, it depends a lot, Michael, on -- I mean, we have -- and again, the reason we haven't gone into real details is we're still -- I mean, we have a good handle on what we believe they are, but we're still doing some of our engineering studies. But we believe that they're robust margins. A big part -- and I've talked about this before, and had been criticized a bit before, but it depends what you acquire your monazite for.

  • And we're looking at a blended price of monazite. That includes purchasing and from our own sources a hybrid model, a little different. So those are all factors that come up with what the ultimate cost is. But, yeah, I believe we are going to be in the same order of competitiveness of others, people that you just mentioned and others.

  • And really, a lot of it, it's going to be focused on the fact that we're operating in an area that has low water cost, low power cost, very good people skills, labor skills in the United States and, compared to Australia, very favorable jurisdiction for low operating capital cost.

  • Mike Heim - Analyst

  • Not going to do the math on the 100 metric tonnes or 1 million kilograms and see the potential of $65 million if we were running at peak or so. But that's just for the NdPr. During Phase 1, what happens to the other heavy REEs? Can they still be sold off or will you inventory them till you get them (technical difficulty)

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • They can, the Sm+ we call it, samarium-plus, in heavier, we will make a concentrate that can either be sold, or we can hold it. And the most likely scenario is we'll probably hold it because really the Dy and the Tb are a couple of the elements that particularly US government is very, very interested in. And actually, a lot of people in the world are very interested in those elements.

  • So as I said, it's a very tricky business here. The -- and I believe that the Chinese continue to manipulate the market at some level because they want to continue to be the dominant force in rare earths in the world. And so we're trying to position ourselves in a way that provides us and decouples from -- to have our own capabilities internal as much as possible.

  • Mike Heim - Analyst

  • Can you give us any indication how much the NdPr represents in terms of the overall value of the heavy metals?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Yeah, in NdPr it varies because not all ore sources have heavies in them. For example, basanite has very little heavies. But the NdPr is, generally speaking, around 75% of the total value of the rare earth oxides that you recover. A lot of people try to count every element in the rare earth feeds.

  • We really could count the neodymium praseodymium and dysprosium and terbium. And so the heavies are generally about 25% of that value, and the NdPr is around 75%. It could be 80%, 70%, somewhere in that order.

  • Mike Heim - Analyst

  • Okay. And final question for me. You said twice that talking about Phase 2 and Phase 3, if you get enough monazite, does that imply that you feel, if contracts are lived up to, you have enough for what you want to do with Phase 1?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Well, as I said, I think, we're rounding up what I'm believing is around 50% of our line of sight to Phase 1. We are talking to multiple parties, and I know I've said this before, but we're talking to probably half a dozen different groups. And those all have the potential, any one of them, to fill up Phase 1. But again, we've got to get them signed up.

  • And one of the things I've found is that a number of parties that were looking at where and who they could do business with, a lot of them have come back to us because they feel that Energy Fuels offers something that others don't. And the main thing we offer is operating in the United States of America, processing in the United States of America, and also being able to operate in an environment where we don't have to pay these extraordinary operating costs like you're seeing currently in Australia.

  • Mike Heim - Analyst

  • Okay, all right.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Joseph Reagor, Roth MKM.

  • Joseph Reagor - Analyst

  • So first thing, and a lot of stuff I wanted to touch on already was, but just kind of a little bit of a housekeeping thing. Your G&A expense seems that the last four quarters, it has been quite a bit elevated. Is there anything driving that or is that like the new normal?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Well, the new normal is we're under increased operational activities across the company. So we've hired, I think, last -- since the beginning of the year, I think we've hired like 30-some people. We're developing a number of different projects in different locations. We're capitalizing some of that, but it's -- I think it's just the new normal of getting the flywheel going on the various projects that we have.

  • So it doesn't just happen without making it happen. And when you go from more of a standby mode to an operational mode, there's a certain amount of burn rate that you just have to increase to get there.

  • And Tom, I don't know if you -- Tom Brock, our CFO is on the line. I don't know if he has anything to add there.

  • Tom Brock - CFO

  • No. Mark, thanks. And thanks for the question. I agree, as we move out of this standby care and maintenance mode into an earnings mode. Of course, we've upgraded some talent, added more boots on the ground to those projects that are underway. And I'd also add in that G&A, you've got -- for the three months ended or six months ended June 30, you've got stock-based compensation of $2.7 million. So with additional heads comes additional units. But again, that's noncash.

  • Joseph Reagor - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. Second thing, there were some reports a couple of weeks back about there being a potential moratorium on mining uranium for a certain section of Arizona. Does that impact you guys in any way or all of your assets like outside that specific area?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • We don't believe so because we have valid existing rights. We have a number of assets that are fully permitted, ready to go, like the Pinyon Plain. We're advancing that right now. And we're just full tilt on that project.

  • There is discussion of a monument. We haven't heard exactly what the outcome is going to be there, but we do not believe it's going to change our activities at all with the Pinyon Plain Mine.

  • Joseph Reagor - Analyst

  • Okay. So to be clear, your asset is outside where the proposed monument is or just cut out as an exemption?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • No, it's inside, but it is a project that is fully permitted, been supported by the US Forest Service for 35 years. They've defended that. So we believe the valid existing rights are sound, and we're going to go forward with the project.

  • David Frydenlund, our Legal Counsel is on the call. Dave, do you have any comments?

  • David Frydenlund - EVP and Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary

  • Mark, I think you summarized it. Under the law, you can't -- the President cannot -- any national monument proclaimed is subject to valid existing rights. The area where our mines in Arizona are subject to mining withdrawal right now, which is subject to valid existing rights. We've established valid existing rights which have been upheld by the court for the Pinyon Plain Mine. So we expect that those will be honored if a new monument is proposed.

  • Joseph Reagor - Analyst

  • Okay. I appreciate the clarity there. I was under the impression you guys were exempt, but I just wanted to make sure we're clear on it. And then kind of a last thing, as you guys look at current operating expenses and growing the business, how should we think about when you guys will start to sell extra inventory or restart operations? Are we at the point where you guys do have a fixed price in mind even if you can't disclose it? Or is there a fixed timeline that you guys are aiming for? How should we think about that?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Well, we're really focused on building a book where we have at least a $20 margin on our uranium production. And as you can see with a number of our inventory sales, we're getting more than that currently with a lot of our inventories. Now a lot of that has come from alternate feed. But we're trying to build a book with at least that $20 margin, likely more with some of our operations like Pinyon Plain.

  • So -- but that's how we're trying to approach it is everybody's got to get to a point where they're making money here. And we're not out there to do recreational mining, but we're just trying to build the book. And really, frankly, with the increased cost, the difficulty of getting additional labor, reagents, we really need uranium prices to go up somewhere in the $70s plus before we'll continue to build that book.

  • Joseph Reagor - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks. I appreciate the color. I'll turn it over.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Reed Rubin, private investor.

  • Reed Rubin - Private Investor

  • Mark, Niger [I gather] they produced 5% of uranium worldwide. And the mine is owned by a French company. Do you have any intelligence as to what might break there?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Look, I mean, there's certainly unrest, coup going on in Niger. It does -- it's a country that has a long history of uranium production, Reed. And -- but I really don't -- I'm not close enough to the coal face there to figure out where that's going. But it does highlight a number of things, doesn't it, that when you look at where the uranium comes from around the world, places like Niger, in Russia, in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, there's risk in a lot of these developing countries.

  • So, yeah, I don't have any real optics. I mean, I've been reading some of the releases from like Global Atomic and others. But I don't have a crystal ball on where that's going.

  • Reed Rubin - Private Investor

  • Any implication in today's pricing?

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • You say any implications on current prices? Is that what you're saying?

  • Reed Rubin - Private Investor

  • Yes, sir. Yeah.

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • Yeah. Well, I think that whenever you look at -- historically, if you look at the uranium market, when the price starts to move, it usually isn't any one thing. I mean, if you go back to 2005 and '06, we had a number of floods in Athabasca, had some flooding at the Ranger Mine in Australia. And so a lot of times, a number of these things working in concert really can move the price. Now I think that a number of things that are likely to move the price is, one, the price is too low for replacing uranium at current prices.

  • You got the increasing demand. You got reactors staying online. You got Japan firing up. And then you have something like Niger, putting a bit of a red flag over that country.

  • And I think when you start looking at these things in concert, it has the potential to really move the price where it should be, which is at $70 or north of $70 to get additional new production coming to the market.

  • Reed Rubin - Private Investor

  • [Cost roughly] Thank you very much, sir.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed, sir.

  • Mark Chalmers - President and CEO

  • All right. Well, firstly, again, thank you for your interest in Energy Fuels. It is a unique story as I said earlier. We're working hard. We're working really hard as a company. We're working well as a company, and we have got what I believe is an extraordinary future. It's difficult out there to actually deliver new production in our company as a company that delivers new production.

  • We're not a promotional company, and we're trying to build these fundamentals on something that will basically capitalize on the clean energy tech going forward and the energy transition. And I think we're well on our way. But I do appreciate our shareholders and the support of our shareholders, so thank you very much, and have a good day.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now ended. Thank you all for joining. You may all disconnect.