美國無線通訊 (USM) 2015 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Greetings, and welcome to the TDS and US Cellular third-quarter conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • As reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jane McCahon. Thank you. Please go ahead.

  • - VP Corporate Relations & Corporate Secretary

  • Thank you Brenda. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I want to make you all aware of the presentation that we prepared to accompany our comments this morning, which you will find on the Investor Relations sections of the TDS and US Cellular websites.

  • With me today in offering prepared comments are: from US Cellular, Ken Meyers, President and Chief Executive Officer; Steve Campbell, Executive Vice President, Finance, and CFO; and from TDS Telecom, Vicki Villacrez, Vice President, Finance, and CFO. This call is being simultaneously webcast on the TDS and US Cellular Investor Relations websites. Please see those websites for slides referred to on this call, including other non-GAAP and operating cash flow adjusted EBITDA reconciliations.

  • The information set forth in the presentation and discussed during this call contains statements about expected future events and financial results that are forward-looking and subject to risks and uncertainties.

  • Please review the Safe Harbor paragraph in our press releases and the extended version in our SEC filings. Shortly after we released our earnings and before this call, TDS and US Cellular filed SEC Forms 8-K including today's press releases and their SEC Forms 10-Q.

  • We will be presenting at the Wells Fargo Conference in New York on November 10 and at the Citi Conference on January 6 in Las Vegas. Also keep in mind that TDS has an open door policy so if you're in the Chicago area and would like to meet with members of Management, the IR team will try to accommodate you, calendars permitting. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Ken Meyers.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Good morning, and thanks for your time today. I'm glad to have this opportunity to talk about our progress this quarter. Highlights include: the completion of our 4G LTE roll-out project, delivering reliable, high-speed data services even to our more remote rural areas, continued customer and revenue growth, and strong cost management, combining to provide solid growth and operating cash flow on a business as usual basis.

  • We also wound down our rewards program which brought back $58 million of previously deferred revenue. These results have us increasing operating cash flow guidance for the year, as Steve will cover later. But it's important to note that the guidance increase is driven by both the operating results and the cessation of the rewards point program, not just the end of the rewards points program.

  • As I mentioned, we finished our roll-out of 4G LTE. This program covered four years and included some ground-breaking work, like the introduction of LTE and what we call Band 5, or honor 850 megahertz licenses. Today, this network is now carrying 83% of our total data traffic.

  • While we just finished with this 4G roll-out, we are already working on our voice over LTE, or VoLTE trials. We are modifying networks in northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin to support VoLTE. The work on the network is close to completion and we expect to begin friendly user trials on this network this quarter.

  • As mentioned in my opening comments, and as previously discussed, we terminated our rewards point program this quarter. This program was very innovative when rolled out five years ago; it served us and our customers well over the years. Now, in a more price-competitive environment, the value of the rewards program had diminished so we have terminated the program to allow us to better focus our resources in areas currently more valued by our customers.

  • Our reported financial results in quarter reflect the one-time benefit of taking the remaining $58.2 million of previously deferred revenue from that program back into service revenue. In order to help you see through this one-time adjustment, our comparisons will show as reported and as adjusted results.

  • During the quarter, we continued to grow our customer base. Net adds of 17,000 primarily reflect the benefits of continued low levels of postpaid churn. This quarter, postpaid churn, 1.4%, down from 1.6% last year. As Steve will discuss, the customer additions, similar to the past few quarters are primarily data-centric devices, like smartphones and tablets, which are taking advantage of our extensive LTE coverage.

  • Gross adds were down year over year and were lower than we would have liked, driven by declines in consumer traffic and our stores like we have seen across electronic retailers generally. Accelerating the growth of our customer base remains a priority but we need to do it on an economic basis. This means we'll focus on maintaining low levels of churn like we're now seeing and increasing revenue, generating gross adds.

  • The strategic comparative is what drives our best value position and we plan to be appropriately aggressive this holiday season to stimulate that growth. We'll also continue to run tablet promotions from time to time to stimulate store traffic and increase customer satisfaction by giving customers more ways to capture the value they receive from our wireless service. This quarter, connected devices represented 34% of postpaid gross additions.

  • Connective device penetration is now about 10% of our customer base. While still low, this area has seen increasing demand from small and medium businesses and local government accounts. Our business channels is having increasing success, showing how these connected devices can improve operational efficiency across many organizations in our markets.

  • Equipment installment plan offerings remained popular with some of our customer and have helped lower subsidy costs on higher-end devices. 44% of postpaid devices sold to customers in the current quarter were on equipment installment plans. While we would expect to see our take rate increase, now that our agent stores are offering EIPs, we currently expect to offer both subsidized and financed devices to meet the needs of all of our customers.

  • Our shared data plans, which we called Shared Connect, now account for 72% of our postpaid customers, up from 35% a year ago, and with the strong tablet sales this quarter, average postpaid devices per account rose sequentially from 2.5% to -- I'm sorry -- 2.5 to 2.54 devices per account. These trends of smartphone adoption and the addition of connected devices continued to drive strong growth in data consumption.

  • These are important steps in our strategy to monetize growth and data usage. All of those activities: smartphone adoption, the connective device sales and Shared Connect adoption with larger data buckets and EIP update, partially offset by aggressive pricing competition, led to revenue growth of 1% over the prior year, excluding the impact of the cessation of the rewards point program.

  • Net revenue growth, combined with tight spending controls and other areas, worked to generate $208 million of total or reported operating cash flow in a quarter, or $150 million of operating cash flow when you exclude the impact of the rewards point revenue. Even on this adjusted basis, operating cash flow was up 57% over last year. Similarly, we posted significant growth in adjusted EBITDA and net income.

  • To summarize, this quarter, we continue to move forward across many fronts, including the completion of our 4G LTE network, continued customer growth, maintaining our low churn and strong growth in operating results. I want to acknowledge the efforts of all of our associates that made this possible, while still recognizing we have further to go to strengthen our position in our markets and to generate the long-term returns shareholders expect.

  • Now, I'd like to turn this call over to Steve Campbell. Steve?

  • - EVP, Finance & CFO

  • Good morning, everyone. I'm going to begin with a few comments on our customer results for the quarter shown on slide 6 of the presentation. As Ken said, during the third quarter, we continued to grow our customer base.

  • Postpaid gross additions for the third quarter of 2015, were 200,000 compared to 251,000 a year ago when we saw higher switching activity across the industry. Gross additions for the third quarter were actually very consistent with our results during the first half of the year, up 5% sequentially and at the same level as the first quarter.

  • Postpaid net additions of 17,000 also were consistent with the levels achieved in the preceding two quarters and reflected the benefit of continuing low postpaid churn. This quarter, postpaid churn was 1.41%, down from 1.59% last year. I'll say more about postpaid churn in a minute.

  • In the prepaid category, we had 12,000 net additions versus 2,000 net losses last year. Gross additions were up about 11% and churn improved also. It was 5.2% this quarter, versus 6.3% a year ago. The mix of our postpaid gross and net additions in the third quarter is shown at the bottom of the slide.

  • Similar to the past few quarters, the postpaid additions were primarily data-centric devices like smartphones and connective devices, especially tablets. Smartphones represented 60% of total gross additions. Connected devices represented 34% of gross additions and translated into 39,000 net additions.

  • The next slide has a chart showing the trend in the postpaid churn rate over the past nine quarters. Churn peaked at 2.29% in the first quarter of 2014 and has continued on a steady downward trend since that time, decreasing to 1.41% for the third quarter in 2015.

  • As stated earlier, our gross additions consists primarily of data-centric devices with smartphones being the latest component. To shed further light on that, slide 8 shows the positive trends in smartphone sales and penetration.

  • During the third quarter we sold 522,000 smartphones, which represented 87% of total handsets sold. This drove smartphone penetrations to 72% of our base of postpaid handset customers, up from 62% a year ago. So at the end of the third quarter, we still had about 28% of our postpaid customers with basic phones. We're working aggressively to upgrade these customers to smartphones and thereby drive additional data usage revenue.

  • During the third quarter, we also sold 72,000 connected devices. As Ken said, along with the higher penetration for smartphones and connected devices, we're also seeing more customers adopt our Shared Connect data plans. The penetration on these plans is now 72%, up from just 35% a year ago. Getting more customers on data-centric devices and shared data plans is critical to our strategy of monetizing the growth in data usage.

  • The next slide in the presentation illustrates just how much data usage has continued to grow over the past seven quarters in terms of both total system usage and on a per subscriber basis. I should point out that the average usage per subscriber shown here reflects all data subscribers including those using connected devices.

  • For smartphone users only, the average usage totaled 1,760 megabits this quarter versus 1,560 megabits a year ago. We're seeing that usage has a positive impact on revenue. Postpaid ARPU, as reported, was $58.12 for the third quarter, up 3% year over year. Excluding the impact of the rewards points expiration, which was $4.48, postpaid ARPU, $53.64, down about 5%.

  • However, there's a lot of moving parts that affect ARPU. Some positive, like the significant growth in data usage, and some negative, like the industry price competition. Notably, with the introduction of equipment installment plans, we have seen an industry-wide shift in some revenue from service plan revenue to equipment revenue.

  • When we normalize for that shift by combining ARPU and equipment installment plan, or EIP billings, we see that the year-over-year change is actually an increase of about 3%, not a decrease of 5%. There's a similar effect for average revenue per account. Excluding the impact of the rewards points expiration, average revenue per account was $135.66, up 2%. But when we consider the EIP billings, the increase is actually about 11% year over year.

  • Going on to total operating revenues, which, for the third quarter, excluding the one-time rewards program impact of $58 million, were just over $1 billion, up 1% year over year. The major factor in the increase was equipment sales revenues, which grew 16% to $173 million, driven by higher equipment installment plan sales and accessory sales.

  • Service revenues were $838 million, about 2% below the prior year level, largely reflecting lower plan pricing due to industry competition, as well as the plan discounts that accompany EIP sales and activations of customer-owned equipment. The other significant item contributing to the reduction in service revenues was roaming revenue, which declined by $8 million, or 11%, primarily due to lower rates on data usage.

  • Note, however, that we also realized the benefit from lower rates on our outbound data roaming traffic. Total expense for outbound roaming increased by about 4% year over year due to a significant increase in data usage but reflected a $12 million benefit associated with lower rates on that usage. ETC revenues, included in the other category on this slide, were flat year over year at $23 million, as the FCC's phase down of the universal fund support remains suspended.

  • Our overall financial performance for the quarter was quite strong, as shown on slide 12. Operating cash flow was $208 million, as reported, or $150 million excluding the one-time rewards program adjustments. Even as adjusted, operating cash flow was up $55 million, or 58% over last year. Several factors contributed to that overall improvement. First, as I just discussed, total operating revenues grew by an adjusted 1% year over year. Total cash expenses of $861 million, decreased by $44 million, or 5% year over year.

  • System operations expense was flat to last year. The cost of equipment sold fell by $21 million, or 7%, driven by decreases in both units sold and average cost. SG&A expenses fell by $23 million, or 6%, due to lower sales commissions on reduced volume, lower consulting and outsourcing cost related to the impacts of the billing system conversion on last year and lower roaming administration fees.

  • This slide also highlights our adjusted operating performance for the quarter. As you see at the bottom of the slide, operating income, excluding the nonrecurring items in both periods, improved from a loss of $54 million last year to essentially a breakeven position this year.

  • Adjusted EBITDA, shown next, incorporates the earnings from our equity method partnerships, along with imputed interest income from the EIP transactions. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $257 million, or $199 million excluding the rewards program impact, up $64 million, or 47% from $135 million last year, driven largely by the increase in operating cash flow. Earnings from unconsolidated entities were $40 million, including $19 million from the LA partnership.

  • As we disclosed last quarter, we were informed by the general partner of the LA partnership that the general partner and the LA partnership entered into a transaction with respect to a spectrum license in the LA partnership's market acquired by the general partner in FCC Auction 97. We also were informed by the general partners that cash distribution from the LA partnership will be suspended until the general partner has been paid for the spectrum license.

  • Accordingly, we do not expect to receive a cash distribution in 2015. By comparison, we have received cash distributions of approximately $60 million during the full year of 2014. Cash distributions from the LA partnership do not affect the measurement of either operating cash flow or adjusted EBITDA, nor will the reduction in the cash distribution for 2015 have a material effect on US Cellular's liquidity or financial flexibility.

  • Our estimates for full year 2015 financial results are shown on slide 14 of the presentation. These estimates include the impact of the one-time rewards program adjusted. For total operating revenues, we now expect approximately $4 billion for the year. This reflects somewhat lower customer growth and lower EIP participation than previously expected.

  • For operating cash flow, we're increasing the overall guidance while narrowing the range from $100 million, to $80 million. The current estimate is $540 million to $620 million. This increase incorporates the impact of the rewards program termination.

  • It also balances the positive performance that we have had so far this year with the fact that we still have an intensely competitive market with a lot of pricing uncertainty, along with the expectation that we will need to be, as Ken said earlier, appropriately aggressive this holiday season to achieve our subscriber growth goals.

  • The changes for operating cash flow carry through to the guidance for adjusted EBITDA where the current estimate is $710 million to $790 million. Capital expenditures are still expected to be approximately $600 million. Next, I want to make just a couple of brief comments about US Cellular's balance sheet and liquidity.

  • Overall, the balance sheet is in good shape. As of September 30, cash and equivalents totaled $597 million, up $385 million from the year-end level. In addition to the existing cash and equivalents, we have about $282 million of unused borrowing capacity under our revolving credit agreement.

  • We believe that these resources, together with expected cash flows from operating and investing activities, provide sufficient liquidity and financial flexibility to meet our day-to-day operating needs and debt service requirements for the foreseeable future. However, these resources may not be adequate to fund all future expenditures that we could potentially elect to make, such as purchases of spectrum licenses in FCC auctions or other acquisitions.

  • It may be necessary from time to time to increase the size of the existing revolving credit facility, to issue new debt or to obtain other forms of financing in order to fund these potential expenditures. This will be a consideration as we assess our potential participation in FCC Auction 1000 scheduled for early 2016.

  • I'll mention here that as of September 30, accounts receivable related to equipment installment plans totaled approximately $310 million. These receivables represent another source of financing if needed.

  • And now I'll turn the call over to Vicki Villacrez to discuss TDS Telecom. Vicki?

  • - VP, Finance & CFO

  • Thanks David. Good morning, everyone. TDS Telecom had a solid quarter as we execute on our strategic priorities. We continue to see cable as a natural extension of our wireline business.

  • The common strategy for these businesses is to own the best price to the market and use that advantage to grow high margin broadband services, bundled with video and voice products. To achieve this objective we are continuing the integration of our cable and wireline businesses in order to take advantage of product, operational and infrastructure synergies.

  • To execute on our broadband strategy in our wireline business, we continue to invest in fiber and have focused on providing high speed data services and related products, which has led to strong growth in IPTV connections. TDS TV has been launched in 22 markets, enabling 150,000 service addresses, or roughly 21% of our total footprint. We expect to launch in additional six markets over the remainder of 2015 and are very pleased with the success of our IPTV deployments.

  • We will continue to make fiber investments to achieve our goal of enabling approximately 25% of our ILEC service addresses into 2016. As a result of continually reviewing all of our operations, we agreed to sell three small ILEC territories in Oklahoma and Arkansas and we expect that transition to close in the fourth quarter. Our costs and demographic metrics in these markets did not support the capital investment required to be the most competitive data service provider in these markets going forward.

  • In our cable business, our investment thesis is around monetizing the growing demands for high-quality broadband services. To execute on this strategy, we have made investments to increase capacity on the broadband network and we've rolled out new products to improve the customer experience.

  • Last quarter, we rebranded our Baja Cable markets as TDS Cable. For both current and prospective customers, our recent improvements in the network and product offerings in these markets will positively influence their choice of TDS Cable.

  • For the HMS segment we continued to execute the vision we have for profitably serving the IT outsourcing needs of mid-market customers. Specifically for HMS, we continued to focus on driving recurring service revenue growth by improving our ability to sell across our entire portfolio of offerings.

  • Moving to the third quarter results on slide 17, on a consolidated basis, we are seeing the success of our strategies. First, wireline IPTV and broadband services are helping to replace the continuing declines in wholesale and commercial revenues. Second, cable operations grew through both the integration of BendBroadband and organic growth.

  • Third, HMS had another quarter showing meaningful improvement. Total revenues increased 21% due to both higher equipment sales and service revenues.

  • Adjusted EBITDA, on a consolidated basis, grew 2% year over year to $76 million, primarily driven by contributions from cable acquisitions and HMS. As expected, wireline adjusted EBITDA started declining last quarter as benefits from cost reductions slowed. Our growth businesses of cable and HMS are offsetting this decline and positioning TDS Telecom for profitable growth.

  • Looking at wireline results on slide 18, residential revenues grew 2% as growth in broadband and IPTV more than offset the decline in legacy voice services. The year-over-year decrease in ILEC residential voice connections has held at about 3% over the past five quarters.

  • As expected, commercial revenues decreased 4% as revenues from increases in managed IP connections did not completely offset the decreases from our legacy voice and broadband connections. Wholesale revenues decreased this quarter as a result of the continuing decreases and regulatory recovery and lower intercarrier compensation rates. This is in line with our expectations.

  • On a combined basis, total wireline revenues declined 2% to $175 million. Wireline cash expenses increased 2%, as it increases an employee-related expenses and IPTV content cost, outpaced the reduced the cost of the provisioning legacy services. As a result, adjusted EBITDA decreased $6 million, or 9%.

  • Turning to slide 19, our strategic focus on broadband and our IPTV product is reflected in our residential customer metrics. In our ILEC market, residential broadband customers continued to choose higher speeds, with 45% choosing speeds of 10 megabits or greater and 14% choosing speeds of 25 megabits or greater contributing to our higher residential ARPU.

  • In this quarter, we launched 2 additional IPTV markets, bringing our total up to 22. The uptake on IPTV is encouraging at an average penetration rate of 26%. IPTV connections grew 46%, adding 9,600 subscribers compared to the prior year. We are offering a variety of speeds, up to 1 gigabit service in all IPTV markets.

  • These actions are driving 98% of our IPTV customers to take all three services, which results in very low churn rates. As you can see on the table on the bottom of the slide, average revenue per residential connection increased 3%. This increase was driven by price increases for broadband and video services, customers opting for faster broadband speeds, and customer selecting higher tiered IPTV packages.

  • Looking at the cable segment on slide 20, you can still see the effects of acquisitions which impacted two months of operations for the quarter. The quarter-end customer metrics are relatively comparative year over year since BendBroadband is included in both 2015 and 2014.

  • Total cable connections are 277,000; on a same-store basis, total residential connections grew 6% as growth in broadband and voice were partially offset by a decline in video connections. Excluding acquisition impacts, revenues grew 4%, driven by an increase of residential connections. Cash expenses increased due to advertising associated with rebranding efforts and higher plant maintenance and programming content costs. The increase in cable adjusted EBITDA, was due to our BendBroadband acquisition.

  • Turning to the HMS segment on slide 21, we had another positive quarter. HMS operating revenues increased $14 million, or 21% year over year on very strong equipment sales as well as improved service revenue growth of 9%. Whereas recurring service revenues, which are comprised of co-locations, hosted, managed and cloud services were up only 2% for the quarter. We expect stronger growth in the future.

  • Cash expenses were up 16% compared to the same period in the prior year, which reflect higher costs of goods sold and cost of services needed to support the revenue growth. Due to efficiency improvements, other operating expenses were down. HMS generated adjusted EBITDA of $5 million, which is beginning to show evidence of our efforts to integrate and streamline operations of our five acquisitions.

  • As slide 22 shows our guidance continues to remain unchanged, as it reflects operating results through September. Overall, we are pleased with the results of our third quarter and we'll continue to update you on our successful execution of our strategic priorities at year end. I will now turn the call back over to Jane.

  • - VP Corporate Relations & Corporate Secretary

  • Thanks, Vicki. Brenda, we're ready for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Our first question comes from the line of Ric Prentiss, Raymond James. Please go ahead with your question.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks. Good morning.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Good morning, Ric.

  • - Analyst

  • I want to ask you a couple of questions around subscribers and then one on margins. On the subscriber side, on the EIP, you mentioned, I think, 70 -- trying to think what you said. Sorry, EIP was 44% of sales. Does that mean your base is up to about 23% on EIP? I'm just trying to figure out where we are on the base.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • That's a good number.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And in the guidance, you mentioned that one of the reasons for revenue changing was now EIP assumption would be at a lower take rate. What are you assuming the EIP take rates are going to be now?

  • - EVP, Finance & CFO

  • So, Ric, as you said, we had the 44% in the third quarter and as we look out to the fourth quarter of this year we think the rate will probably notch up to about 50% for the fourth quarter.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • We actually expect it to see a little higher rate than we have been running. Part of the rate variance, so to speak, has been a slow deliberate roll-out of EIPs to our agent channel and part of it has just been a customer base that still likes the subsidized model. And so we haven't seen as fast of migration to EIP as maybe others and our view is, we're going to make sure we have the right products for the right customers and then those that want subsidized plans, as long as we can make the economics work, we'll offer those as well as EIP.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. So fourth quarter may be more like 50% whereas before you were thinking it might have gone even higher?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Yes.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Seeing of subsidies, what are you seeing as far as loss on equipment on a subsidy model these days, given the competition and handset pricing?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • First of all, what we're seeing is a bifurcation by mix, I guess I'd say. Higher end phones are all migrating to the EIP, and that's part of the -- that's just our management of the pricing. If I think about LOE on a subsidized phone, I don't have the exact number in front of me, but I'm guessing, it's like $200

  • - EVP, Finance & CFO

  • Yes. Roughly speaking. It's about $215, on a subsidized phone

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, cool. Then final question on the subscriber side is upgrades. What did you see in the quarter? We heard some of the other US carriers' upgrades came in a little lighter than some people might have been expecting.

  • - EVP, Finance & CFO

  • Yes. That would be true for us as well. Our upgrade rate for the quarter was about 6.5% and it was about 8% in the comparable period a year ago.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Again, for us, that upgrade rate had been running 10% not too long ago, and part of that was the whole migration from a strategy that did not involve contracts to bring in the customer base back under contract. So before, a year ago, we were running about 10%; it was probably about the third quarter of last year, it started marching itself down and now I'd say we're more in line with the kind of industry average. But we had been running hot before.

  • - Analyst

  • Sure. One of the other major friends in the industry and you guys talked to it, was churn. Slide 7, you show your quarterly seasonal churn numbers. Do you expect that churn can continue down on a year-over-year basis? And what is driving that?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • So, I'm looking across the table to Jay Ellison, who is Executive Vice President, Operations, and you used that word, expect, and I like to use that world a lot when I talk to him about churn. I think there's a lot of things that are driving it. One is, we believe that expansion, and it's also when you get more and more lines or -- and devices on an account and it's more and more difficult to move all of those. I think it's both satisfaction as well as difficult, your barriers almost

  • - Analyst

  • And just quickly, with the completion of the LTE roll-out this year as well as, to Ken's point, and then the broad based portfolio, including the tablet selection, I think, I expect to see us continue to have good churn results.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Thank you, Jay.

  • - EVP, Operations

  • You are welcome, Ken.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Simon Flannery, Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead with your questions.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you very much. Good morning. So on the auction for 600, you talked about the funding requirements about that. Can you just talk about how you think about that spectrum? It obviously won't be available for a few years but you've have a lot of rural territory presumably that could help with some coverage but you also have quite a bit of low band already. Capacity needs, given some of your territory may not be as great given the density. So how do you weigh all of those things? Can you talk a little bit about return of capital? It's a little while since you've done an M&A deal. We didn't see buy-backs this quarter. I understand there's auctions coming up but how are you thinking about other uses of cash beyond the auction in terms of acquisitions or buybacks? Thanks.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • So let me start with the auction question. You listed many different factors that all go into the great big black box to see what comes out but as we think about it, we want low band spectrum everywhere and with our 850 and the 700 A-block licenses that we have, we have a real nice kind of coverage over most of our markets. There's a few that we don't have any 800 or 750 blocks, and so those would be the first targets for the 600 auction so that we can ensure that we've got the coverage everywhere.

  • After we've got the coverage spectrum, then we start thinking about capacity and to date we've got AWS and PCS, and other higher band frequencies but our engineers are working on carrier aggregation. And some of the recent work shows what we were concerned about in the past which was called the low-low aggregation, after the aggregating multiple lower bands of frequency together is looking more promising. So some of the 600 actually could be capacity additions for us.

  • So, all that says is, we've got the 600 coming up. We are preparing both from a liquidity financing standpoint, as well as from an engineering and analytical standpoint to be ready for that auction once it gets here. In terms of M&A, or use of cash, I'm going to throw that question over to Doug Shuma, who is in the room, from TDS.

  • - SVP and Corporate Controller

  • Hi Simon. How are you? As far as M&A, we're absolutely still interested in acquiring additional cable companies to help improve our returns. Obviously, we haven't done any of that this year. We're committed still to the 75/25 invest in the business return to shareholder strategy. We've said consistently that we would do that pretty modestly, moderately, and we're doing that at any point in time. We may be in or out of the markets for a bunch of different reasons.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. Thanks for the color.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from the line of Sergey Dluzhevskiy, Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Good morning, Sergey.

  • - Analyst

  • A couple of questions. The first one is for Ken, just following up on the question about the auction. One of your competitors, I guess, voiced concerns of 600 and 700 megahertz spectrum bands don't play well together due to interference. I was just wondering, maybe a bigger question is, as the interference concerns related to the bands, so maybe if you could talk a little bit, how you look, it sounds those interference issues. How big of an issue it is do you think that is, and what all of those things could be done to alleviate all of those concerns?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Sergey, asking me to talk about engineering, and technical conclusions is probably not the best idea. But Mike Irizarry, who is our CTO is in the room. I'll let him talk about it, but the big thing is, we think that there's a lot of work going on that's going to make that low-low more concerned applications. Mike?

  • - EVP and CTO

  • Good morning, Sergey. Certain low-low combinations, we believe, are easier to carrier aggregate than others and it has to do with filtering limitations, and I would say that carriering aggregating 600 and 700 is probably one of the more challenging low-lows to be addressed but there's a lot of work going on to improve filtering, improve antenna bandwidth, to make all low-low combinations possible but definitely 600 and 700 is one of the more challenging low-low combinations.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • We're seeing progress, even on the standards front, to include that in the standards. So we're optimistic.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. One question on the cable side for Vicki. Obviously, we've seen additional cable deals I guess since last quarterly call and I also -- I mean, given the recent market volatility, could you talk a little bit if you've seen an impact in the environment, cable space, and your potential pipeline. Have you seen prices come down on some of this, as you are looking at, given market volatility?

  • - VP, Finance & CFO

  • Sure. I think the activity you've seen in the cable acquisition space says a couple of things. I think it says, one, obviously, how competitive the space is and, then two, more importantly, I think how attractive the space is.

  • As you know, our strategy is around growing that broadband opportunity and so as we're looking at -- and I think we've been clear about that -- as we're looking for cable acquisitions and we continue to be disciplined buyers, and we'll only do the deal if we can make it work. But overall, we really like the business and the opportunity from the broadband growth perspective.

  • - Analyst

  • All right. And the next question, going back to Ken, if you could talk a little bit about your machine-to-machine opportunities that you see in your markets. It's probably a small component of your business now but where do you see it going over the next few years, what are some of the biggest opportunities for you?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • I don't know that I can do justice to that question. Right now, our focus is more in the connected device space, especially bringing efficiencies to operations in some of our local government operations.

  • We're seeing strong receptivity to solutions, that help, whether it be the county government or the city government here, operate their fleets, operate and provide information to their citizens in a more efficient basis. Where that evolves long-term into, really, M2M stuff, we're more of a -- as I think about our customers in that area, they are more followers than they're going to be leaders. Right now it's all about connected devices.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from the line of Phil Cusick with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

  • - Analyst

  • I think I remember you telling us that you're more conservative on EIP modeling in terms of residuals and things like that than your peers. Do you have any idea what the EBITDA might be if you took a pure level assumption?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • I don't know that I'm more conservative than my peers. I think that we are appropriately conservative and when we recorded EIP transactions, we're looking a residual value of 20% at the end of -- effectively, year one, the way it works under our original offerings. What that means in terms of margins or whatever, I think about it that you really don't know until after you played through your first cycle of EIPs, but in our case, the first upgrade eligible ones were about four months ago. And we're seeing a much lower and slower upgrade on those than we thought.

  • But I don't know that I can convert, do a-- this is what some one else says, this is what I said, and work it down to the bottom line. I think we are -- until we get enough history with these, we don't want to be in a position where we've got a great big surprise that's a balance sheet someplace. I'm not suggesting anybody else has one. I'm just basically saying that our team here, Steve and Doug, have been working to make sure that we don't wind up with one.

  • - Analyst

  • Good. And then second, gross adds on the phone side continue to be fairly slow, even with a pick up in Verizon and AT&T and T-Mobile. How are you working to drive the customer knowledge of the business and increase gross add share?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Now you are getting to the tough questions. What we're doing is a lot. One of the big opportunities for us was just awareness still of customers outside our base of the availability of the Apple products. Jay, why don't you talk about what we're doing there.

  • - EVP, Operations

  • We're using all of the standard vehicles obviously. We have a tremendous amount of win back direct mail campaigns, to Ken's point, relative to making the -- continue to make the awareness grow relative to our iPhones. We've got our second tranche of Apple -related TV that hit the air recently and we're extremely that it is Apple. Excited about the caliber and the quality of the spots that we're putting out there

  • We've got ongoing pulsing of our tablets sales, which really have just been about a year in the market for us in an aggressive way. As I mentioned, TV, print, radio, all of the standard methodologies have really been our focus this year and we will continue with the strong portfolio in that effort going into Q4

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • The other thing, Mike -- not Mike, Mike's right here. Other thing, Phil, what our study shows is that most customers, or prospective customers, will shop online before they ever hit a store. They will still buy in the store but they shop online.

  • Part of our whole pricing strategy is making sure that we get -- that we stay in the consideration set. That's why we're just under Verizon and AT&T in networks that are similar in quality to ours so when the customer is looking at it online but they see that value difference and keep us in the consideration side.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. I think the challenge for a lot of investors in thinking about the stock, I think, is that while churn has come down, that's awesome. EBITDA is better, that's awesome. The question is just the relevance of the Company, and with a -- we could argue whether it's a two or three competitors in your market. It's pretty clearly not four.

  • But as Sprint slowly rolls out their 800 megahertz and T-Mobile, I would think eventually by spectrum across your markets, might be a few years before they can deploy it, I would think that the competitive level goes up. Is this -- do you see three or four years from now that you can be more advantaged competitively today than you are now -- excuse me, than you are today?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Well, that's the whole strategy. That's the whole sort of challenges in front of us, right? As you said the churn is down. That was something that was up; we've addressed it. As you said, the financials are better than they were. We have addressed that.

  • Our local positioning, our continued investment in network quality, our local and convenient distribution and the increased focus on small and medium-sized businesses are all the next steps that we're taking around continuing to grow the business. So as you said, no matter what you've done, there's always something else that needs to be done and that's where our focus is now.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it. Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Michael Rollins with Citi. Please proceed with your questions

  • - Analyst

  • Hi. Thanks. Two, if I could. First, could you update us on your AWS-3 spectrum and what your expected timing is to get that spectrum from the FCC? And I'll follow up with a second one, if I could, please.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • If you're talking about our investment in Advantage Wireless, that's the -- it's their spectrum. They are the owner of that. They were in the auction and we know that they've got -- they are working with the FCC around getting the license grant but I don't know what the timing is of that and until such time as I hear from them, I'm here just on hold.

  • - Analyst

  • Has there been any issues identified as to what the -- why the duration that it's been?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Not that I'm aware of.

  • - Analyst

  • And then secondly, if you could talk a little bit more broadly about allocation of capital. So from a TDS and the US Cellular level, how is the -- how are the companies looking at monetizing more of the wireless assets, whether it's the spectrum? Do you have other assets like towers? The minority investments in wireless properties?

  • How are you looking at all of this as possible funding, whether it's for cable interests that you described earlier in the call or whether it's to create some opportunities, return more capital to shareholders? Is there an update on the thinking of this allocation of capital? Thanks.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Let me try it from the cellular standpoint and take them one at a time. So let's talk about the minority investments. When you talk about those, you are talking about investments. Primarily the biggest one is LA. It is a very nice annuity that has paid for many, many years. They just bought a big license out there, so for the first time in as many years as I can remember, the cash flow has been redirected for this one year.

  • But we fully expect to see the same level of cash coming out of that in the future as we have and that's been running $60 million, a zero tax base asset that has -- you can run your numbers and put a value on that. And until such time as there's another way to get similar value out of that to monetize that at some much lower potential return, it just doesn't make sense.

  • Towers, told you, we just finished the LTE roll-out but we're about to start down the VoLTE trial and what we're seeing in VoLTE is more cell site modifications that are needed and to be able to do those on at least half of our cell sites without incurring substantial lease renegotiation fees as well as give us some leverage on those. Those remain a strategic asset and I don't see that changing right now.

  • I think, as Steve pointed out, as we think about the auctions coming up between cash balances, what did you say, Steve? $300 million of EIP-related receivables, unused lines of credit; I think we're pretty well there. In terms of other uses at TDS, I'm going to punt on that one because there's people on the other side of the table.

  • - SVP and Corporate Controller

  • Mike, it's Doug. As far as TDS, we don't look to any assets that US Cellular could or potentially sell or finance as a source of course for TDS to invest in cable. Cable acquisitions, we look in the same place as the cash available on our balance sheet, potentially accessing the debt markets if we have to. We think they are available to us but we would not be selling assets at US Cellular to fund cable acquisitions.

  • - Analyst

  • Just finally, as you are in the Board meetings for both USM and TDS, at times, how do you measure the success? Is there one metric that you look at for US Cellular where you measure the success of your strategy? Is it revenue performance? Is it a metrics of return on capital? Is there one thing that you guys look at and say, this is the key thing you guys deliver on to demonstrate long-term success of your strategy?

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • There are many factors that the Boards look at to evaluate the performance of this business and the management team here. One that we have talked about in the past that we continue to focus on but it's not the only one but a very, very critical one to the Board is return on capital and making sure that we are on a path to change that result.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks very much, Ken. Thank you.

  • - President & CEO of U.S. Cellular

  • Thanks, Mike. Have a great weekend

  • Operator

  • Thank you. This concludes today's question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to management for closing remarks.

  • - VP Corporate Relations & Corporate Secretary

  • We'd like to thank you all for joining us today and please let us know any follow-up questions. Have a great weekend.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And thank you for your participation.