TTM Technologies Inc (TTMI) 2013 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by and welcome to TTM Technologies' first-quarter 2013 earnings conference call. During today's presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be open for your questions. (Operator Instructions). Today's conference is being recorded May 2, 2013. I would now like to turn the conference over to Diane Weiglin, Executive Assistant with TTM Technologies. Please go ahead.

During the course of this call, the Company will make forward-looking statements that relate to future events or performance. These statements reflect the Company's current expectations, and the Company does not undertake to update or revise these forward-looking statements, even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results expressed or implied in this or other Company statements will not be realized.

Furthermore, we wish to caution you that these statements involve risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond the Company's control, which could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements.

These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, the Company's dependence upon the electronics industry, general market and economic conditions including interest rates, currency exchange rates and general market -- and general market and economic conditions including interest rates, currency exchange rates and consumer spending. Demand for the Company's products, changing trends in the markets the Company serves, market pressures on prices of the Company's products, changes in market mix, the Company's ability to consummate the DMC and SYE transactions and realize the expected capacity utilization and margin benefits therefrom. Contemplated significant capital expenditures and related financing requirements, the Company's dependence upon a small number of customers, the unpredictability of and potential fluctuation in future revenues and operating results, competition in the labor markets in which the Company operates, and other risk factors set forth in the Company's most recent SEC filings.

The company also will present non-GAAP financial information in this call. For a reconciliation of TTM's non-GAAP financial information to the equivalent measures under GAAP, please refer to the Company's press release which was filed with the SEC and which is posted on TTM's website.

I would now like to turn the call over to Kent Alder, TTM's Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, Kent.

Okay. Thank you, Diane. Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us for our first-quarter 2013 conference call. I'm joined on the call today by Todd Schull, our new CFO. Todd joined the Company in late February and I'd like to welcome Todd to his first TTM conference call.

As in our previous calls, we will begin with a review of our business and then Todd will follow with a discussion of our financial performance. Then we will open the call to your questions.

Okay, let's start with a few highlights from the first quarter. Net sales were $325.4 million. Gross margin was 15.6%. Non-GAAP net income was $10.7 million, or $0.13 per diluted share. GAAP net income was $5.2 million or $0.06 per diluted share.

For the first quarter, revenue was near the high end of guidance and our earnings per share was above guidance. While we experienced normal seasonality during the quarter, we were pleased to achieve year over year revenue growth with increased sales in our cell phone and networking end markets. We were also encouraged to see an improvement in our aerospace and defense end market, both sequentially and year over year despite current defense budget challenges.

Overall, we maintained relatively high levels of advanced technology work by serving multiple co-programs for our handheld devices. Our advanced technology group of products, which include HDI, substrate, rigid-flex and flex assembly, accounted for approximately 51% of our Asia-Pacific segment's revenues in the first quarter. This compares to approximately 60% in the fourth quarter. The sequential decline reflects normal seasonality for touchpad tablets and smart phone sales.

I would now like to quickly comment on the results of our operating segments for the first quarter. Todd will add more details later in the call. The Asia-Pacific segment had sales of $202.6 million in the first quarter, a 22% decrease from $259.4 million in the fourth quarter due to seasonality. However, sales increased 18% from the first quarter of last year reflecting increased participation in customer programs. Gross margins for the Asia-Pacific segment was 17.6% in the first quarter, compared to 15.7% in the fourth quarter. Our blended capacity utilization in Asia-Pacific declined to about 67% in Q1 from 77% last quarter largely due to seasonality.

The North American segment recorded first quarter sales of $123.6 million, essentially flat with the fourth quarter and 5% lower than the first quarter of 2012. Gross margin for our North America segment decreased to 15.5%, from 16.9% in the fourth quarter. The gross margin decline primarily reflects underutilization at certain plants and an uneven order flow during the quarter. Our overall capacity utilization in North America remained consistent with the fourth quarter at approximately 65%.

Now, moving on to our end markets, first-quarter sales in our largest end market, networking and communications, comprised 34% of total sales, compared to 30% in the fourth quarter. While down sequentially on a dollar basis, sales in this end market were solid due to improved demand for products supporting mobile, telecom infrastructure, and high-end networking. We are encouraged by the trends we have seen in this end market over the last two quarters and we fully anticipate increasing sales relating to the 4G LTE network build-out in China later in the year. For the second quarter we expect sales in this end market to be up slightly at about 35% of sales.

Sales in the computing, storage and peripherals end market represented 19% of total sales, compared to 24% in the fourth quarter. As expected, this end market experienced a seasonal decline primarily related to lower demand for touchpad tablets. Sales from storage and high-end server customers were also down slightly following a strong increase in the fourth quarter. We expect that the computing end market will decline modestly to approximately 17% of sales in the second quarter.

Sales in the cell phone end market represented 17% in the first quarter compared to 21% in the fourth quarter. It is important to note that beginning in the first quarter of 2013, we are reclassifying sales for our substrate printed circuit boards which were formerly included in our other end market, to the end markets which they are sold. Predominantly, cell phone. We expect sales to the cell phone end market to be up sequentially at approximately 19% of sales in the second quarter.

The aerospace and defense end market represented 16% of first-quarter sales, compared to 13% in the fourth quarter. First quarter booking and shipping dollars were up both sequentially and year over year in our aerospace and defense business. We continue to benefit from a broad program participation in both defense and commercial aerospace. We expect second-quarter aerospace and defense sales to remain stable at about 16% of total sales.

The medical/industrial instrumentation end market represented 8% of sales in the first quarter, compared to 7% in the fourth quarter. On a dollar basis, sales were down slightly in this end market primarily due to lower demand in the test and measurement market. This end market is expected to be 8% of sales in the second quarter.

Sales in the other end market were 6% of total sales in the first quarter, compared to 5% in the fourth quarter. We expect this end market to remain constant at about 5% of sales in the second quarter.

In summary, we liked our position in our diverse group of end markets. Our strategy is to serve the higher technology and faster growing segments within each of our targeted end markets. We are seeing encouraging signs of improvement with many of our customers and end markets and in some cases, gaining market share.

Now, onto customers. Our top five customers accounted for 35% of sales in the first quarter, compared to 40% of sales in the fourth quarter. In alphabetical order, our top five OEM customers were Apple, Cisco, Ericsson, Huawei and Juniper. We had one customer who accounted for 14% of sales during the quarter. ASPs decreased 6.5% in Asia-Pacific from the fourth quarter, largely as a result of a shift in our product mix due to the normal seasonal decline in demand for products utilizing advanced printed circuit boards such as tablets and smart phones. In North America, ASPs increased approximately 4.5%, primarily due to mix changes.

Our prior capital investments in advanced technology enabled us to win business in the computing and cell phone end markets as we manufactured printed circuit boards for smart phones and touchpad tablets. In 2013, our capital investments are focused on improving our advanced technology position with capacity additions in our advanced HDI, rigid-flex, and substrate businesses. We are also investing in CapEx for productivity improvements, environmental compliance, and maintenance. We plan to invest approximately $100 million in 2013. Our CapEx was $12 million during the first quarter.

Looking ahead, we expect to close the transaction with our minority partner to sell our 70% equity interest in our SYE plant and to purchase the remaining 20% interest in our DMC plant in the July timeframe. This transaction will reduce our footprint for conventional printed circuit boards in Asia-Pacific and increase capacity utilization. We anticipate a profit margin improvement in Asia-Pacific from this transaction beginning in the second half of 2013. We also expect to net approximately $40 million in cash for these transactions.

We are encouraged to see both stabilization and some modest improvements in our end markets. In North America we are experiencing some market share gains in networking and end market. And our aerospace and defense business levels are holding steady in the face of sequestration and US budgetary concerns.

In Asia-Pacific we are not facing the same headwinds as we had in 2012. In April we did implement a pay increase of 8.5% in order to remain competitive in the labor market. The 8.5% increase was below our expected increase of 10% to 12%.

In summary, our results this quarter demonstrated the importance of being involved in the right customer programs, the ongoing strength of our business model and the continued execution of our growth initiatives. We remain positive about the prospects for improvement in the demand environment for the second half of 2013. Based on current projections for customer programs, we expect a similar ramp of sales in the second half of this year as we experienced last year with potential upside based on when 4G LTE is released.

We are confident in our growth strategy as we deliver advanced printed circuit board technology to a broad base of customers within targeted segments of each of the end markets we serve.

Now Todd will review our financial performance for the first quarter.

Thanks, Kent, and good afternoon, everyone. Before I jump into numbers, let me just say how pleased and excited I am to be part of the TTM team. I believe TTM has an excellent future and I'm looking forward to working to help make that future a reality. I'm also looking forward to meeting and working with the investment community.

Onto the numbers. First-quarter net sales of $325.4 million decreased $56.3 million or 15% from the fourth-quarter due to seasonality. Please note also that Q1 was a standard 13-week quarter whereas Q4 was a 14-week quarter. The one less week during Q1 as compared to Q4 negatively impacted our revenue results and favorably impacted our expenses.

Gross margin was 15.6% for the first quarter, compared to 16.1% in the fourth quarter reflecting primarily lower utilization of our operations. Selling and marketing expense for the quarter was $9.2 million compared to $9.6 million in the fourth quarter. As a percentage of net sales, selling and marketing expense in the first quarter was 2.8%, up from 2.5% in the prior quarter primarily due to lower revenue levels in the current quarter.

First-quarter G&A expense was $26.6 million, or 8.2% of net sales, compared to $28.7 million, or 7.5% of net sales in the fourth quarter. The increase in G&A expense as a percentage of revenue was also due to the lower revenue levels in the current quarter. Amortization of intangibles was $2.3 million in the first quarter, compared to $2.5 million in the fourth quarter.

Operating income for the first quarter was $12.7 million, compared to operating income from the prior quarter of $20.7 million.

The Asia-Pacific segment's first-quarter operating income, before amortization of intangibles, was $11.1 million, compared to operating income of $17.6 million in the fourth quarter. The North America segment's operating income before amortization of intangibles for the quarter was $3.9 million, compared to $5.6 million in the prior quarter.

Interest expense was $6.3 million in the first quarter, compared to $6.6 million in the fourth quarter. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 11%, a decrease from the fourth quarter effective tax rate of 30%. The decrease was due primarily to two R&D tax benefits, a super R&D tax deduction for one of our Asia-Pacific companies, and the retroactive approval of the R&D tax credit in the United States.

Net income attributable to stockholders in the first quarter was $5.2 million, or $0.06 per diluted share, compared to net income in the fourth quarter of $13.7 million, or $0.17 per diluted share.

First-quarter non-GAAP net income attributable to stockholders was $10.7 million, or $0.13 per diluted share. This compares to the fourth quarter non-GAAP net income attributable to stockholders of $18.6 million, or $0.23 per diluted share. Non-GAAP net income adds back amortization of intangibles, stock-based compensation expense, non-cash interest expense, and income tax effects related to these expenses.

EBITDA for the first quarter was $39.1 million, or 12% of net sales, compared with the fourth-quarter of $49.6 million, or 13% of sales. Cash and cash equivalents at the end of the first quarter totaled $284.1 million, essentially unchanged from the fourth quarter. Net debt was $290.9 million at the end of the first quarter, roughly the same as prior quarter. Although our total debt this quarter is essentially unchanged from yearend, please note that $48.1 million of our term loan comes due in March, 2014, and therefore, it was reclassified as short term.

Cash flow from operations in the first quarter was approximately $10.4 million. Net capital expenditures in the first quarter were $11.5 million and were evenly divided between Asia-Pacific and North America. Depreciation expense in the quarter was $23.1 million.

Now I'd like to turn to our guidance for the second quarter. In the second quarter, we expect revenue to be in the range of $320 million to $340 million and GAAP earnings attributable to shareholders to be in a range of $0.01 to $0.07 per diluted share. We expect non-GAAP earnings attributable to shareholders to be in the range of $0.08 to $0.14 per diluted share. This is based on a diluted share count of approximately 83 million shares. Our second quarter EPS guidance reflects the wage rate increases in Asia-Pacific noted by Kent earlier, as well as the absence of the favorable R&D tax benefits which we recorded in the first quarter.

We expect that SG&A expense will be about 11% of revenue in the second quarter. We estimate amortization of intangibles to be about $2.3 million and depreciation expense to be approximately $23 million. We expect interest expense to total about $6.5 million and we estimate our effective tax rate to be between 20% and 25% for the first quarter.

Now let's move on to your questions. Operator?

(Operator Instructions) Shawn Harrison, Longbow Research.

Hi, good afternoon, everyone. Just first a clarification. The substrate business, what was the quarterly revenue run rate?

Shawn, we can look at that in an annualized basis. It continues to go up. And one of the reasons our substrate business had been classified in our other category, mainly because it wasn't significant. But as we continue to invest in that business, it continues to go up. That's why we're going to reclassify that back up into the cell phone category. The revenue for that, for the last quarter, was about $13 million.

Okay. My second question is somewhat interrelated. I guess getting into kind of the view on the back half of the year, it seems as if most of this is Asia related. And so that goes into the second aspect of the question is, is that all Asia related? And if it is, what are you looking at with North America? The EBIT margins this quarter were about 3% or I guess the lowest we've seen in a number of quarters. So if you don't get the revenue growth, what is occurring in North America?

Yeah, let me dissect that question. You're right on the second half of the year with most of the increase being in Asia-Pacific. And if you just focus on Asia-Pacific segment, historically we've invoiced about 55%, 56% of our revenue in the second half of the year and that's all driven by the seasonality in the computer and the cell phone end markets with touchpad tablets and smart phones.

Our North America business, we think that will be solid for the rest of the year. It won't have the same increase, but we're optimistic that it will continue to grow. I think for the next quarter we've got that forecasted for about a 3%, 4% increase. In Asia-Pacific on a comparable basis, we're up about 1% in the second quarter. And then the second half of the year then, towards the end of the second, or towards the end of the second quarter, that's when the orders will start to come in as we get new product introductions from our smart phone customers and touchpad tablets.

As far as margin goes, Shawn, I think we had just some -- the challenge we had in North America this quarter was, and I mentioned this earlier, the unevenness of the orders as they came to our facilities. And while our capacity utilization rates stayed constant at about 65%, it varied between our facilities. And we have one of our facilities now that the lead time is extending out and the backlog has built and we're actually hiring people. And that's a facility that services the networking end market. We have another facility where the orders come very irregularly, if you will, where we might work overtime for a couple of weeks and then we're looking at some idle capacity. So it was a challenge this quarter as some of our facilities ramped and other facilities had a very uneven order flow.

How much of that Chippewa Falls recovery, Kent, is new markets versus the commentary that you made about taking share?

Well, it's both, Shawn. There is some overall improvement in the networking market from a broad range of customers and then another big part of that was some wins from existing customers as we captured market share.

Okay, thanks so much. Very helpful.

Rich Kugele, Needham & Co.

Thank you. Good afternoon, gentlemen. So just a couple questions for me. One, on the gross margin side, you did talk about how much the labor rates went up. Is it solely because of labor that the gross margin, or that if you take the low end of the revenue range, that that's why the EPS would be so low versus this quarter? I'm just trying to figure out the sensitivity on the guide and if the gross margin and the labor rates is a primary factor.

Rich, I'll go ahead and take that one. If you look at our forecast or guidance that we're offering for the second quarter, the margin deterioration that you see is being dominated by the wage increases that we commented on. We also get fluctuations in material mix in terms of material content and as that varies, basically a mix issue for us, depending on the products that we're making in a given period of time. And that's also providing a little bit of a headwind for us.

But notwithstanding those negatives, we're actually not down, not forecasting a decline that large. We are offsetting some of that through efforts in productivity and efficiency initiatives that we're got within the company and we're actually expecting to mitigate a significant element of both of those headwind issues, if you will, in the second quarter.

Okay, that's helpful. And then actually in terms of the debt, the portion that's moved to current, what is your intention for that? Do you think you can just refinance it or pay it off? What do you think is the best course at this point?

It's a little premature to speak to that. I think our expectation at this stage, if I was to get pinned down, would be to pay it off in due course. But we will look at our overall capital strategy as we go forward here and determine what's the best use of our cash. Which is really you look at organic growth, you look at M&A opportunities, you look at paying down your debt. And we have to weigh those alternatives at any point in time to figure out what's going to be the most attractive use for our cash at that point in time.

Okay, and then just lastly, Kent, you had mentioned I guess at least one of the facilities here in the states working on networking gear is actually seeing extended lead times. I can't remember the last time that's happened. It's been I guess a couple of years. Do you think the customers are starting to feel better about the orders that they can place or are they just concerned about inventory levels? Have they given you any second level commentary as to why?

That's a good question [Shawn]. I mean it's generally about all of the above. There are various reasons depending on the customer's particular situation. I think there is overall a tone of more optimism. It's not a gigantic step function in optimism, but clearly there is some nice, positive I guess momentum here that customers are getting a little more confident about the future. Willing to place orders, maybe rebuild inventories to some degree. We won some market share, I think that's helping, and will to continue to. I think the position we are in and some of the opportunities we have with customers I think will continue to ramp with that networking end market. Particularly because of the segments we serve within that end market.

Great. Well done on the quarter and even the guide. Thanks.

(Operator Instructions). Jiwon Lee, Sidoti & Co.

Thank you. I just wanted to ask about the potential margin improvement you might be expecting in the second half given the transactions you did and also given some of the revenue ramp that you're expecting from the Asian side.

That's a good question, Jiwon. Let me just talk kind of at a high level about that for a minute here and then maybe we can synthesize that down into, I don't know, somehow quantify that some. But the SYE transaction, that's going to benefit us in a number of ways. First of all, it will eliminate some of our conventional capacity which kind of matches what we're doing within the marketplace. We don't need the conventional capacity that we have right now, so that will improve our capacity utilization. And that translates into some improved gross margins.

Over time I think through our modeling, we've anticipated that we'll improve our gross margins about 1% in Asia-Pacific. That transaction also enables us to get in line with our strategy as we move forward with more advanced technology type products. It also simplifies our organization structure. We're able to focus on facilities that we own 100%.

When you look at the second half of the year, we have over the years structured our company through some of the challenges we've had as we've seen some labor costs increase and some other costs rise so that I think we're better positioned now than we have been in the future when the revenue comes to us. So there's a lot of leverage in our model. Clearly we need revenue to overcome some of the fixed costs and in Asia-Pacific we go up generally 25% to 30% over what we did in the first half of the year, so that will be a real positive for us

And in North America, when you look at all our business there, we've got some more coming to us from the networking end market. On the aerospace and defense side, I mean we're doing well there even with the sequestration and some of the budget talks or challenges that we're having. I think if we had that resolved, there's some aerospace and defense orders that are kind of on the sidelines that if they had a little more clarity, I think we can boost our work there.

So we've got some things working for us to our advantage that we haven't had in the past. I don't know how to start to quantify all those things. It's a little dangerous to start quantifying, but a lot of good things are happening. Todd, did you have anything to add to that?

Well maybe we can probably just provide a little bit of guidance on the SYE transaction Kent eluded to which is a strategic step that we're taking to improve our margins here as we go forward. I'd like to give you a little bit of information, so as Kent indicated in his earlier comments, we're now targeting to complete that transaction in the July timeframe. So for purposes of the second quarter guidance, it really doesn't have an impact. But as you start to look at the rest of the year, a couple of things. We'll have a slight decline in the revenue, we'll have a reduction in our revenue related to this specific transaction. And that will be in the neighborhood of $20 million to $25 million per quarter for the SYE plant that we'll move off and will no longer be consolidated in our results.

Secondly, the profit related to that plant, the percentage if you will, the portion of that profit that we do not recognize, will be beneficial to us. That is a nominally, modestly profitable, breakeven type of a situation so there's not a big negative hit there.

And then for the other plant where we're acquiring the minority interest, we'll actually pick up some profit that for the ratio or the portion of the ownership that we don't presently have. So when you net those two things out, as Kent commented earlier, we expect to see an uptick in our margins in the Asia-Pacific segment of approximately 1% once that transaction is completed.

And then on the cash flow side, as we've tried to give some indication earlier, we would expect to realize net, after all of the -- we sell our interest, we buy the other interest, there's also some intracompany debt that needs to be liquidated and some taxes associated with the transaction. When you net all those things out, we would expect to realize approximately $40 million of cash benefit to the Company. So that's a rough picture in terms of the economics of the transaction.

Okay, that's very fair. And I just wanted to make sure that I understand the fairly wide EPS range you're seeing for the second quarter. So that's mainly a function of the mix and the materials that's associated with that mix? Did I get that right?

Yeah. There's, Jiwon, I think we're more stable now than we kind of have been in prior quarters. When you look at our revenue, our gross margin, I think that's been fairly constant at the 15.5%, 16% level. So I think it was just a precautionary measure maybe to have that a little wider than we maybe could have. But it's probably in line with what we've done in the past, too, with a $0.05 or $0.06 range. I wouldn't read anything into that one way or the other. We've got a lot of good things working for us. I think our mix will improve, too. When you talk about mix of advanced HDI, rigid-flex, substrate, I think that will continue to work in our favor as we go forward.

The other thing that I want to mention, that I probably overlooked on my earlier comments, is we're also looking at within our facilities, how do we better load our facilities and how do we better have our capacity aligned within our facilities so we become more efficient? So there's some opportunities we have there that we're still in the process of researching. But we have quite a few things in the positive side of our business.

I think I understand. That's all for me. Thank you.

Shawn Harrison, Longbow Research.

Just a follow-up. With copper prices up so significantly, what would be the earliest that you could potentially maybe see a little bit of giveback on laminate, particularly within Asia?

I think on the copper prices, certainly the price of copper is going in our favor. And that probably kicks in sometime in the middle to the end of the second quarter. We have some contracts and so forth, so it will probably kick in in the second half of the second quarter.

Okay, and then just as follow up, where are lead times right now that you're seeing in Chippewa Falls verses maybe where they were in the back half of last year?

They've extended out. I think we ran at about 3 to 4 weeks last year for the most time, and we're at 6 to 8 weeks on those products. Lead times overall. We're somewhere 4 to 8 weeks in North America, about 3 to 4 weeks in Asia-Pacific with 8 weeks at their networking facility.

Okay, thanks so much.

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. Mr. Alder, I'd like to turn the conference back to you for any closing remarks.

Okay, I'd like to thank everybody for joining us today. We appreciate the questions. If you have follow-up questions, feel free to call myself. Todd is also ready to go with questions. And we'll look forward to meeting you again next quarter. Thank you, everyone.

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