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  • Operator

  • Hello, and welcome to the webcast entitled WWE Fourth Quarter Earnings. We have just a few announcements before we begin. Please download the slide via the Resources widget at the bottom of the screen. Also at the bottom of your browser, you will find a Help icon for technical assistance. Please note the slides will not advance during the presentation. You will only see the cover page. (Operator Instructions).

  • And I will now turn the call over to Michael Weitz, Senior Vice President, Financial Planning and Investor Relations, sir, you may begin.

  • Michael Weitz - SVP, IR

  • Thank you and good morning everyone. Welcome to WWE fourth quarter 2013 earnings conference call. Leading today's discussion are Vince McMahon, our Chairman and CEO, and George Barrios, our Chief Strategy and Financial Officer. We have posted our presentation for today's call and more detailed financial release on our website corporate.wwe.com.

  • Today's discussion will include forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements reflect our current views, are based on various assumptions, and are subject to risks and uncertainties disclosed from time to time in our SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially and undue reliance should not be placed on them.

  • Additionally, the matters we will be discussing today may include non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP information is set forth in the notes to this presentation which is available on our website at corporate.wwe.com. Finally, as a reminder today's conference is being recorded.

  • At this time, it's my privilege to turn the call over to Vince.

  • Vince McMahon - Chairman, CEO

  • Good morning, everyone. You have before you no doubt the financial results for the full year. It was pretty much in line with expectations, down obviously year-over-year as we continue to invest with an OIBDA of around $30 million.

  • Some of the key metrics, which I like to, I think are certainly instrumental in where we go as from a live event standpoint, our average attendance has increased 2%. From the television audience standpoint, we increased our weekly audience 19% to about 14 million, a little better than 14 million viewers a week.

  • From social media standpoint, we continue to chart new ground as far as that's concerned with an increase of 87% up to 246 million of social media followers, which is pretty extraordinary. From the recent achievement standpoint, we've announced the new content deal with BSkyB over in the United Kingdom as well as Thailand, which are considerably better than what they were in the past, a multiple of approximately 3 and I believe 7 times for the various, for UK as well as Thailand.

  • We also have developed and monetized new content for television including Total Divas. We've launched a new toy product in the construction toy category what we have not been before, and we have very really high hopes for that. We developed some new movie contents such as working with Flintstones and Scooby Doo. And Scooby Doo is going to WrestleMania by the way this year.

  • We have enhanced our talent development to continue to, with our performance center down in Florida, we have established partnership with the blue chip companies with such as Kraft and Post Cereal. So, we are moving along well, I think in terms of our some of our recent achievements. As far as strategic initiatives are concerned, obviously the biggest one, our exclusive license period with NBCU has expired and we're out in the marketplace for the first time in a long, long-time.

  • Now, we expect to complete those negotiations somewhere around the end of April maybe a little bit, a little bit later. It depends. And of course, we've begun discussions with any number of individuals and in terms of renegotiating our content agreement coming up in India and others as well when we look to increase our television right fees.

  • As far as our network is concerned, we're going to go live this Monday at 9.00. We are really excited about that, a lot to talk about it, especially considering for $9.99 you get unbelievable amount of content as well as our pay-per-views. Speaking of pay-per-views, a majority of our MVPDs have decided to carry our WrestleMania and then from there on a month-by-month basis under the current terms.

  • And we continue rollout plans for international markets with our network, including Canada, UK, Australia, and New Zealand, Singapore and some of the Nordics, as well as Hong Kong, all in English and then from there obviously we would continue on across the globe with our network all parts of our network.

  • So that's pretty much where we are at the moment.

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Thanks Vince. There are several key topics, which I'd like to review today. These include management discussion of financial performance and progress of our key strategic initiatives.

  • For the fourth quarter, our financial results, as measured by OIBDA, declined $14.1 million from the prior year, as we maintain investments and staffing, production, talent development, and marketing to support our key content initiatives. These results were in line with management expectation, and for the full year our OIBDA results were in line with our 2013 guidance, which targeted an OIBDA range, excluding film impairment, of $40 million to $50 million.

  • Throughout the past year, our communication has highlighted critical strategic milestones, especially the launch of WWE Network and the renegotiation of our most significant content agreement. To date, we have completed all of the key requirements to launch the network in four days, on Monday, February 24. This includes creating compelling original programming, developing and testing the user interface, for each of our distribution platforms, and putting in place the technical backbone and customer service infrastructure to effectively deliver the network.

  • Regarding our content negotiations, we have recently announced the renewal of key television agreements in the UK and Thailand, which now represents our number one and number three most valuable content deals outside the US. We believe the new agreements in these markets reflect a more appropriate value for our content based on our analysis of recent transactions in those markets.

  • Regarding our domestic TV licensing agreements, we are now engaged with potential partners after exiting our exclusive negotiating period with NBCU. We look forward to being in the market with the number one show on cable television and content that delivers more gross rating points than the national broadcast of most sports and entertainment programs. Additionally, we would like you to be aware that we are currently in similar discussions in India, where our analysis also indicates significant economic upside. Each of these developments represent significant milestones in our effort to realize greater value from our content and transform our business.

  • During the past year, as we prepared for change, we continue to invest in our operations. We enhanced our talent development process through the completion of the WWE Performance Center. We flexed our production muscles to develop and monetize compelling new content exemplified by Total Divas. We launched a new line of toy product in the construction category, a segment which has shown significant growth, and we continue to improve our film business, entering new production and financing partnerships such as with Warner Bros. to deliver exciting new film project such as the animated feature Scooby-Doo WrestleMania Mystery that will be released on Tuesday, March 25 of this year.

  • As we invested in our business, our overall brand metrics remain strong, with the launch of our original series Total Divas, the average weekly reach of our domestic television program grew to 14.2 million homes, representing a 19% increase from last year. As I mentioned previously, over the past 12 months, our programming surpassed the cumulative audience delivery of most sports and entertainment programs, including the national broadcasts of Major League Baseball, NASCAR, the NHL and The Walking Dead. And our total social media platform, as of today, now reaches more than $260 million followers, including more than 175 million Facebook likes and 80 million Twitter followers, representing a 90% increase from a year ago.

  • Building the strength of our brand as evidenced in these metrics, and taking advantage of that strength is a critical component of our long-term strategy. To review the key drivers of our performance in the quarter, let's turn to page six of our presentation, which lists the revenue and OIBDA contribution by business as compared to the prior year quarter.

  • Revenue increased by 3%, or approximately $3 million, based on growth in international markets. Our international revenue grew 12%, driven by the impact of scheduling three additional events in international markets, stronger performance of our Live Event tours, and contractual increases in our international television agreements. Revenue from our live events, including merchandise sales of these events increased 6%, or approximately $2 million in the quarter, due in part to the staging of three additional live events in international markets.

  • Additionally, changes in the mix of international territories contributed both to an increase in average ticket price, and partially offsetting decline in average attendance. The average ticket price rose 17%, to $81.98, as the current year quarter included three events in Abu Dhabi, an international market that has historically garnered higher ticket prices. Average international attendance declined 7% to 5,200.

  • In North America, average attendance increased 4% to 5,900 fans. For the full year, average attendance at our North American events, which we view as an important leading indicator, increased 2%, while our average ticket prices rose 7% from the prior year.

  • Revenues from our pay-per-view business increased 21%, or $2.7 million, primarily due to the timing of one additional pay-per-view in the quarter. There were four pay-per-view events in the fourth quarter 2013 as compared to three events in the fourth quarter last year. Revenue for the comparable events held in both the current and prior year quarter, increased 2%, based on a corresponding increase in pay-per-view buys.

  • Revenues from our television business increased by nearly $1 million, due to the production and monetization of Total Divas and contractual increases for existing programs licensed in international markets. Total Divas, a new original series, began airing on the E! Network in July. Since its debut, the program has averaged approximately 1.7 million viewers per week, representing an increase of more than 150% over the programming that it replaced.

  • For the full year, revenues from our television business increased 15%, or $21.4 million, driven by the production and monetization of new programs. In our Consumer Products segment, our home entertainment revenue declined $4.6 million, reflecting the continued shift in sales from new release to catalog titles. This shift derived from changes at retail, including reduced space for DVD inventory, and retail demand for lower-priced product. Home entertainment releases in shipments from our catalog historically have been characterized by lower average prices and higher return rates than new releases.

  • During the quarter, shipments of catalog titles increased 51% and accounted for 57% of total unit shipments, compared to 35% in the prior year quarter. Reflecting these factors, the average price per unit declined 33% to approximately $8, and estimated returns increased to 51% from 37% of gross revenue. Also contributing to the decline in home entertainment revenue, overall shipments fell 8% to 1.1 million units with two fewer releases during the quarter, nine in Q4 2013, versus 11 in Q4 2012.

  • Licensing revenue declined $1.2 million, or 14% from the prior year quarter, primarily due to reduced royalties from the sale of toy products, particularly products ancillary to our core action figures in the US and international markets. Despite the fourth quarter decline, domestic retail toy sales increased for the full year based on strong sales of these core products.

  • For the year, WWE maintained its position with the second highest selling action figure property in the US market. And notably, in late 2013, we launched our first line of construction toys, a segment of the toy category that has demonstrated strong growth over the past several years. As indication of our potential, other major action figure brands, Marvel and Star Wars, generate combined retail sales from their construction toys that are roughly comparable to their combined action figure sales. Royalties from the sale of video game and apparel products were essentially unchanged from the prior year quarter, as modest growth in the US was offset by lower sales in international markets.

  • Revenue from our Digital Media businesses declined less than $1 million, based on lower overall sales of digital content. Key digital metrics such as unique visitors to the company's website, mobile app, and average monthly page views increased from the prior year quarter.

  • During the quarter, WWE Studios recognized revenue of $5 million, as compared to $0.6 million in the prior year quarter. The increase was primarily due to the performance and timing of results from our portfolio of movies. The fourth quarter reflected revenue from Christmas Bounty, a made-for-TV movie that aired in November 2013, and to a lesser extent, revenue from The Call starring Halle Berry, which was released theatrically in March 2013. Although four movies were released in 2012, these releases had limited impact on revenue recognized in the fourth quarter of that year.

  • During the 2013 year, WWE Studios recognized impairment charges of $11.7 million, primarily related to our 2010 to 2012 slate of movies that were released under a former distribution and business model. Based on the expected performance of our movie portfolio, we expect to maintain our current level of film investment and are therefore targeting film spending of approximately $20 million over the 2014 year.

  • Unallocated SG&A expenses increased $3.1 million to $35 million from the prior year quarter. As a reminder, these expenses include sales, marketing, and talent development costs which have not been allocated to specific lines of business. The rise in unallocated SG&A during the quarter was driven by increases in salary, other personnel costs, and marketing to support key business objective.

  • Salary expenses increased $1 million, or 11%, reflecting a 14% increase in headcount, primarily to develop our advertising sales and international infrastructure. These factors were partially offset by $1.4 million year-over-year reduction in accrued management incentive compensation based on our 2013 financial performance.

  • Operating income before depreciation and amortization, or OIBDA, declined $14.1 million primarily due to lower results from our home entertainment, licensing, and television business as well as continued investment to support our content initiatives.

  • Lower profits from our consumer products reflected the decline in revenues as discussed earlier. Profits from our television operations declined $3.2 million, reflecting changes in the mix of the programming, with one less episode of RAW and the new season of Total Divas, as well as increased production costs.

  • Overall, company's salary expense increased $2.7 million with a 9% increase in headcount. Talent expense increased $2.2 million and these increase in expense, which were predominately to support our strategic initiatives, were partially offset by $1.3 million reduction in accrued management incentive compensation and increased profits from the timing of additional pay-per-view events.

  • Net income declined $8.5 million, reflecting the decline in our OIBDA results and an increase in depreciation. The change in depreciation is derived from our investment in assets to support the creation and distribution of new content, including through the WWE Network.

  • Our effective tax rate was 34%, compared to 75% in the prior year quarter. The rate in the prior quarter was adversely impacted by additional tax expense as a result of differences between estimated and actual full year taxable income, an increase in unrecognized tax benefits, and the provision for dividends from a foreign subsidiary. For the full year, out net income declined nearly $29 million, with increased profits from the licensing of our television content was offset by the aforementioned investments in production, talent and staffing.

  • Page 13 of the presentation contains our balance sheet, which remained strong. As of December 31, the company held $109 million in cash and investment, and an estimated debt capacity under our revolving line of credit to be approximately $83 million. During the year we completed the purchase of corporate aircraft and in conjunction with this transaction and related aircraft improvements, utilized debt financing of approximately $30 million, which is reflected in long-term debt on our balance sheet.

  • Page 16 shows our free cash flow which declined about $30 million from the prior year. The decrease was driven by the decline in operating performance and changes in working capital, including the $11 million increase in the annual payment of management incentive compensation related to the company's previous year performance, increased spending on television production assets, including network production and timing differences in the collection of receivables that negatively impacted the current year cash flows compared to the prior year.

  • Partially offsetting that decline, capital expenditures excluding the purchase of the corporate aircraft decreased by approximately $9 million from a higher level of investment spending in the prior year to support our content initiatives. We continue to believe that these content investments will yield significant returns.

  • Now looking ahead, based on our analysis of the value of RAW and SmackDown compared to other benchmark programs and extensive research regarding consumer interest in our WWE Network, we continue to believe that we can double or triple our 2012 OIBDA results by 2015. Our programs share the key determinants of value that are attributed to live sports, significant first run hours, and the associated gross rating points, a passionate and loyal fan base and 90% live plus same day viewership, which makes WWE content like sports DVR-proof. Benchmarking our rights fees to the fees paid for sports programming and other original scripted series indicates that our license agreements could have meaningful upside potential.

  • Programming and viewership data provides similar support to the renegotiation of our content agreement in international markets. Our licensing deals that were recently renewed in the UK and Thailand bolster this view. We are looking forward to our discussions as we negotiate our content agreement in India.

  • The launch of WWE Network is another major source of future earnings growth. Based on our consumer research, we estimate that a full distributed domestic pay network could ultimately attract between 2 million and 3 million subscribers.

  • At a price of $9.99 per month, this would represent incremental OIBDA between $50 million and $150 million at a steady state. Similarly the roll-out of WWE Network in international market also has significant earnings potential. We expect the launch of WWE Network in the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, and the Nordic countries by the end of 2014 early 2015. To reiterate -- based on the raising valued content that has a broad way of following we believe we can realize significant upside potential from the negotiation of our key content agreement. We continued to believe that our efforts including the launch of WWE Network will enable us to achieve our 2015 financial objectives.

  • Although our key strategic initiatives holds significant potential, our financial performance for 2014 could fall within a wide range of outcomes, depending on the rate of subscriber acquisition for the network, potential pay-per-view capitalization, and the outcome of our content negotiations.

  • Based on the ramp and network subscribers and the late 2014/early 2015 start date for our key content agreements the wide range of outcomes for 2014 includes potentially lower earnings in 2013.

  • For the first quarter of 2014, we expect net income to decline on a year-over-year basis by $15 million to $18 million, resulting in net loss of $12 million to $15 million. The first quarter decline reflects the impact of the network launch including marketing and customer service costs, the absence of a $2 million net benefit related to the transition of our video game partner, timing of video game royalties and continued investment in staffing and the reset of management incentive compensation.

  • As we expect they had better visibility regarding network subscriber acquisition and the outcome of our constant negotiation by the end of April, we expect to discuss our full-year business outlook for 2014 and 2015 in greater detail in our first quarter 2014 earnings call, which will occur in early May.

  • Regarding the disclosure of network subscriber levels, we will initiate reporting after WrestleMania on Monday, April 7, 2014. Looking ahead we believe that over time we can generate economic returns that better reflect WWE's tremendous global appeal and brand strength.

  • That concludes this portion of our call and I will now turn it back to Michael.

  • Michael Weitz - SVP, IR

  • Thank you, George. Vanessa, we are ready now. Please open the line for questions.

  • Operator

  • And thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions). And our first question comes from Daniel Moore with CJS Securities.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Good morning Dan.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • How many distinct media companies or carriers do you view as being realistic potential bidders for the RAW and the SmackDown properties?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • At this point, we are not going to characterize the negotiation at all Dan, but we are very optimistic given the numbers that our content delivers, and the fact that for the first time ever, all our properties are available at the same time.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Okay, and regarding the network -- what have you think so far in terms of response, inbound inquiries et cetera that give you confidence and the ability to reach the initial 1 million subscriber mark at some point this year?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Yes, it's less around inbound call but certainly the chatter in social media which we monitor pretty closely has been really, really positive, and I think when you look at the media coverage, I think people see the values, so it just supports all the research we done to date.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Okay and given the value proposition if 1 million subscribers is the target for this year, how many would you expect to have signed up by WrestleMania?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Yes, we haven't given any guidance on that. So we said we thought if we exited the year with about 1 million, we'd feel pretty good.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Okay, and then lastly and then I will jump back in queue, I know it's tough to break out -- but what would be a ballpark range total spend in 2013 on the P&L for the build-out our anticipation of the network?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • We probably had about $12 million that you could directly associate with the network on the P&L, but obviously that doesn't include the marketing cost, customer services cost, transmission cost and so on so forth that, come about when we go live.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Okay, I will jump back in queue, thank you.

  • Operator

  • And thank you. Our next question comes from Mike Hickey with Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

  • Mike Hickey - Analyst

  • Hey guys. Good morning and thank you for taking my questions.

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Hi, Mike.

  • Mike Hickey - Analyst

  • I'm guessing this is fairly sensitive, but on the NBCU deal, can give us any color as just some regards to why you were not able to reach an agreement? And do you think that, that the media buyer paying a lower CPM theoretically for the content was a factor?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Yes, Mike, I don't want to characterize any of the discussions we've had including with NBCU. As I have said before, right behind the NFL and NBA comes WWE in terms of generating live gross rating points in the US. So that's ahead of NASCAR, ahead of NHL, it is ahead of Major League Baseball, and all their national deals. So we feel good about the value that we bring to a partner both in advertising, being able to drive their CPM as well as and more importantly in the value to their affiliate revenue streams.

  • Mike Hickey - Analyst

  • Fair enough, I mean did you think going in at this sort of an expected outcome that you'd work through this negotiation that sort of exclusive period and take it to the market, was that something that you are anticipating?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • We are always ready for all of that. So we didn't really go in with any predisposed mindset, we have a kind of clear view and a sober view what we think the value is for our content, and we are just excited to have the chance to talk with everyone, including NBCU in this period. Just to be clear -- just because we exited the exclusive window doesn't mean conversations have ended.

  • Mike Hickey - Analyst

  • Okay, now fair enough. And on your upcoming WrestleMania, I was just hopeful you could kind of give us kind of a meter towards the excitement level from fans maybe relative to prior years, and then any updates on the CM Punk situations, that would be great.

  • Vince McMahon - Chairman, CEO

  • It's WrestleMania 30 so obviously it's a big number for us. In terms of talent, in terms of storyline, we think this WrestleMania would be really, really big. As far as CM Punk is concerned, one of our, one of our performers, he's taking a sabbatical. Let me just put it that way.

  • Mike Hickey - Analyst

  • Okay, awesome. Thanks guys, best of luck.

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And we have our next question from Russ Silvestri. Sir, can you state your company?

  • Russ Silvestri - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning, my name is Russ Silvestri. I'm with Skiritai Capital. I have really one question. The movies -- why are we continuing to do them? I mean you tried football, made a good decision exiting that. The movies haven't made any money, and why do you think we have skill in the movie business?

  • Vince McMahon - Chairman, CEO

  • We have a new business model. It is our third business model actually, this one is working, and it is making money for us. We are a content company. We understand a good storyline is an opportunity for our stars to appear again other forms of entertainment other than just in the ring and we think again going forward that this is going to be considerable contributor to the bottom line.

  • Russ Silvestri - Analyst

  • Is there a realistic timeframe that you want to associate to judging the success or --

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Yes, when we went into the third model that Vince described, we said we would have evaluate the performance starting with our first release, No Holds Barred, in mid-2012, and then through 2013 in the final release being Christmas Bounty. And right now, based on the results and obviously the expectations in the second and third windows for those movies. We're expecting an 11% cash on cash return. It's less than what we would have liked, but certainly something that we view as creating shareholder value. And that doesn't if we can get into some of the second-order economics that we think accrue over time hard to put finger on, but as you expose the brand in a different way to a broader audience around the world, we think that has value. So we want to make money on the film business directly, but we think there is a second-order benefit as well.

  • Russ Silvestri - Analyst

  • Okay. I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Sure.

  • Operator

  • And thank you. Our next question comes from (inaudible).

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Hi, this is [indiscernible]. Just a question guys. On the TV rights deal, will we see the benefit in 2015 all at one time, or will it be a gradual benefit? Just looking at your past financial TV, the TV rights line usually has a gradual increase.

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Yes, so the domestic deal starts, the new deal starts in the fourth quarter of 2014. The deal for the UK and India will start on January 1, 2015 and our deal in Thailand has already begun. Generally those deals have escalation clauses built in, but that's a general statement. The final terms are to be negotiated. But you'll have an average value for the deals over the time period and usually it starts slightly lower than the average and grow because it has an escalation built in. Does that help?

  • Unidentified Participant

  • That helps. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • And does that conclude your question?

  • Unidentified Participant

  • It does. Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Thank you so much. Our next question comes from Daniel Moore with CJS Securities.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Thank you. Just a clarification. You said most or all MVPDs have agreed to carry the pay-per-views through WrestleMania, is that correct?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Most. So we've got roughly 85% coverage of US households. We're not going to talk about the specifics, but the folks that we have give us about 85% coverage.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Okay. And just a follow-up. What percentage of pay-per-view revenue roughly do the satellite, Dish and DirecTV comprise of?

  • George Barrios - Chief Strategy Officer, CFO

  • Yes, it's roughly relative to their coverage of the homes in the US, but you're looking around at 35% or so.

  • Daniel Moore - Analyst

  • Got it. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • And thank you. (Operator Instructions). And we now have a question from Jim Rogers. I'm sorry. His line has dropped from the queue. I apologize.

  • Michael Weitz - SVP, IR

  • Vanessa, thanks for hosting the call. We appreciate it and we thank our investors and the analysts for participating today. If you have any questions, feel free contact us at WWE and thank you for participating in the call today.

  • Operator

  • And thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's webcast. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.