Southern Missouri Bancorp Inc (SMBC) 2025 Q1 法說會逐字稿

I'll now hand it over to your host, Stefan Chkautovich CFO, to begin. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Alex. Good morning, everyone. This is Stefan Chkautovich, CFO with Southern Missouri Bancorp. Thank you for joining us today. The purpose of this call is to review the information and data presented in our quarterly earnings release dated Monday, October 28th, 2024. And to take your questions.

We may make certain forward-looking statements during today's call and we may refer you to our cautionary statement regarding forward-looking statements contained in the press release. I'm joined on the call today by Matt Funke, President and Chief Administrative Officer,

Matt. Will lead off our conversation today with some highlights from our most recent quarter.

Thanks Stefan and thanks everyone. This is Matt Funky. Appreciate you joining us today. I'll start off with some highlights on our financial results for the September quarter, the first quarter of our fiscal year quarter over quarter, we showed some pressure in profitability as a larger provision for credit losses, an increase in noninterest expense and lower noninterest income weight on earnings and profitability.

Offsetting some of this pressure was an increase in net interest income which stemmed from loan growth and further net interest margin expansion. And despite the lower reported earnings, there were several underlying highlights that cause us to view the quarter favorably and remain optimistic about future periods.

The diluted EPS figure for the current quarter was $1.10, down $0.09 from the linked June 2024 quarter and down $0.06 from the September quarter a year ago. During the quarter, the bank realized onetime cost of $840,000 associated with the performance improvement project reported as legal and professional fees to enhance the bank's operations and revenues.

Recognition of this expense during the quarter reduced after-tax net income by $652,000, diluted EPS by $0.06 and ROA by 6 basis points. At this time, we're still in the early stages of the performance improvement project, but we're looking forward to considering the recommendations in future quarters with the ultmate goal of improving our customer and team member experience and creating greater long-term value for shareholders.

Reported noninterest expense was up 3.4% compared to the linked quarter but excluding those onetime performance review costs, expenses would have been flat quarter-over-quarter. Net interest margin for the quarter was 3.37% down from the 3.44% reported for the year ago period, but up from 3.25% for the fourth quarter of fiscal '24, the linked quarter.

Net interest income was up 4.5% quarter-over-quarter and about 3.5% year-over-year as we grew average earning asset balances. On the balance sheet, gross loan balances increased by $117 million or 3% during this first quarter, and they increased by $267 million or 7.2% over the prior 1 2 months. Loans anticipated to fund in the next 90 days totaled $168 million at September 30. Deposit balances increased by $97 million during the first quarter and by $208 million over the prior 12 months.

Due to attractive pricing in comparison to local markets, we utilized $89 million in brokered CDs in the first quarter In total, we have $60 million in brokered CDs maturing by the end of the calendar year when we anticipate a seasonal inflow of funds from ad customers and public units. Tangible book value was $38.26 and that reflected an increase of $5.14 or 15.5% and over the prior 12 months.

That's attributed to both earnings retention and improvement in the bank's unrealized loss in the investment portfolio from the decrease in market interest rates. Our asset quality remained strong at September 30, with adversely classified loans at about $40.5 million or just over 1 % of total loans, a decrease of about $400,000 or 4 basis points during the quarter.

Nonperformers -- nonperforming loans were $8.2 million at September 30, up $1.5 million compared to June 30 and up to 0.21 % on gross loans. Roughly 40% of the increase in nonperforming loans was due to one loan collateralized by single-family residents. Loans past due 30 to 89 days were $7 million, up $1.3 million from June and at 18 basis points on gross loans.

This was an increase of 3 basis points compared to the linked quarter Total delinquent loans were $13.4 million or 34 basis points, up $4.1 million or 10 basis points from June. This increase is primarily due to an increase on past due loans and construction, loans secured by one to four family residences and commercial and industrial loans.

From June 30th. Our ag real estate balances were up about 7 million for the quarter but flat compared to September 30th a year ago. While our ag production loan balances increased 24 million for the quarter and they're up 35.5 million year over year. We have seen a general increase in production line utilization due to increased input costs.

Our farmers are making good progress with their harvest, having completed their corn and rice all into soybeans and cotton, early planting and favorable dry fall weather led to a strong start and quicker harvest. While some have experienced drought, it had minimal impact on irrigated crops with yields reported as average to above average.

Corn yields are strong, especially for irrigated farms, but pricing remains low. We're hopeful that the better yields will mostly offset the low-price levels. Rice yields are promising and prices are stable, so we're optimistic about profitability there. Cotton farmers are optimistic despite some weather impacts with contracted prices hovering around $0.75 a pound.

Soybean yields vary with prices fluctuating the farmers who can may benefit from holding some of the crop in storage until 2025. Overall, this year, farmers faced higher input costs but early planting help with fuel savings and USDA loans on stored grain may assist with cash flow at this late point in the yean

We could see less paid down next quarter. on credit lines due to crop storage. Equipment values are softening, and lenders are preparing to help any distressed farmers restructure loans as our farmers generally have strong equity positions to allow them to withstand this tough period.

Due to our stringent underwriting, including stressed commodity pricing and assumed higher operating costs, we anticipate that our borrowers will genera Ily be able to navigate this challenging year Speaking to the loan portfolio as a whole, the growth mentioned earlier would equate to 12% annualized, led by construction, aq production lines and 1-4 family loans.

We experienced strong growth in our East region where we have much of our ag activity and our South region was just behind with good growth in those markets, too. The September quarter is historicaIly our strongest period of loan growth, and we would expect to see this pace slow next quarter as we start receiving ag line paydowns and a general slowing in new projects in the winter months.

That said, we had a great quarter of loan growth, and we feel optimistic about achieving at least the mid-single-digit level of loan growth that we've discussed for the fiscal year.

Stefan, I know you have some thoughts on our performance.

Thanks, Matt Going into a little more detail on the income statement Looking at this quarter's net interest margin of 3.37%, up 1 2 basis points quarter-over-quarter and it included about 9 basis points of fair value discount accretion on acquired loan portfolios and premium amortization on assumed deposits. Compared to the linked June quarter of I O basis points and 16 basis points in the prior year September quarter

Now that we are well past the Citizens merger, we would expect to see these lower levels of discount accretion going forward. The net interest margin expanded as the yield on interest-earning assets increased 21 basis points, primarily due to loan yield expansion, while the cost of interest-bearing liabilities increased 11 basis points. In addition, the net interest margin benefited from an increase in the loan-to-deposit ratio.

Also, as we annualize it, the NIM benefited by 4 basis points compared to the linked quarter due to the higher 92-day count in the quarter. With the improvement in the margin, and growth of our earning asset base, we expect to see continued net interest income growth through the year. Recall that the December quarter from the Company, we historically see a slowdown in loan growth and an increase in deposits that will weigh on the margin.

But we still expect positive improvement in net interest income overall. As we have indicated on prior calls, our liability-sensitive balance sheet should benefit from rate cuts and we expect to see this benefit in net interest income and the NIM next quarter due to the 50 basis point Fed funds cut in September

Looking at the drivers of near-term impacts we have about 23% of our deposits or close to $950 million tied to the 91 -day treasury compared to loans of close to $500 million indexed to adjust within the month, mostly tied to Prime. Although our balance sheet has changed a little for better quantification, looking at the last interest rate cutting cycle in 2019, our deposit beta was about 39% compared to loan beta of about

With the increase in index deposits since then, I would expect a slightly higher deposit beta the cycle. Looking at noninterest income, we're up 22.6% compared to the year ago period, but down 7.6% compared to the linked quarter. The decrease in fee income compared to the linked quarter is primarily due to the seasonal increase we have historically recognized in the fourth quarter for tax credit benefits and additional card network payouts tied to card volume incentives.

In fiscal 2025, the fees associated with these items will be more evenly realized through the year. The year- over-year increase was primarily due to an increase in other loan fees deposit account charges and related fees and higher gain on sale of SBA loans. Noninterest expense was up 9% as compared to the year ago period and up 3.4% from the linked quarter

Excluding the $840,000 expense associated with the performance review, operating expenses would have been up 5.4% year-over-year and flat compared to the linked quarter. The increase for the year-over-year comparison stems primarily from the increase in compensation and benefits due to a trend increase in employee headcount as well as annual merit increases. The bank has experienced less turnover this year and has also had more success in filling open positions.

Our provision for credit losses was 22 point or 2.2 million in the quarter ended September 30th 2024 as compared to [PCRO] of 900,000 in both the same period of the prior fiscal year and the June quarter, the increase in the provision this quarter was due to an increase in reserves for individually evaluated loans, loan growth and a slight increase in modeled expected losses. We had a small increase in the provision attributable to off balance sheet credit exposure due to a modest uptick in our calculated expectations for line utilization, the individually reviewed loans that require additional reserves. This quarter are primarily collateralized by two metro hotels.

The allowance for credit loss as of September 30th 2024 totaled 54.4 million representing 1.37% of gross loans and 663% of nonperforming loans as compared to an ACL of 52.5 million, which represented 1.36% of gross loans and 786% of nonperforming loans at June 30th 2024. Our fiscal year end net charge offs in the first quarter remain low at one basis point compared to the length quarter of three basis points.

An uptick in our construction lending increased our non owner CRE concentration as defined by regulatory guidance at the bank level by 2.6% points quarter over quarter to 320% of our regulatory capital.

A decrease in our multifamily loan portfolio partially offset other CRE growth on a consolidated basis. Our CRE ratio was 307.5% at September 30th. Our intent would be to hold relatively steady on this measure and grow CRE in line with capital, but we expect it may uptick a little bit somewhat over the next few quarters with construction draws.

As Matt touched on earlier, total broker deposits increased about $99 million in the first quarter to fund the strong level of loan growth while we lost a larger public unit depositor.

In addition, the decrease in rates during the quarter led to more attractive pricing of brokered CDs compared to our local markets that did not move as swiftly since the FMC cut rates in September, we have seen local deposit pricing decrease and though and remained. I'm sorry, and we expect to see a little bit better results on deposit growth in our local markets since the FMC rate cuts and local competition has decreased a bit in pricing to wrap up. We started off the fiscal year 2025 on a good foot with strong loan growth and with the September rate cuts, we're optimistic about both earnings and profitability for the fiscal year. Matt, any closing thoughts?

Thank you, Stefan.

Last week, we held our annual leadership meeting with market leaders from across our footprint and within our administrative functions. It was great to hear from them about their activities to get feedback on initial results from our efforts to improve our organizational culture and to visit about the work we're beginning on our performance improvement project. We're really excited about performance improvement. Not only because we think it can make us better at quickly and effectively meeting our customers' needs, but also because this project represents a great professional development opportunity for our team. And they've embraced the entire process with enthusiasm.

We're optimistic that the improving yield curve slope continued strong business activity in our markets and credit quality that remains pretty strong across the industry by historical standards. But all of that will provide a good setting for our fiscal '25 results.

Finally, we're continuing to see small incremental pickup in M&A conversation, but we'd still say that everything remains preliminary for us. We do think it's reasonable to look for more interest from potential sellers as regional bank valuations have improved pretty significantly so far this calendar year.

Thank you, Matt. At this time, Alex, we're ready to take questions from our participants. So if you would please remind folks how they may queue for questions at this time.

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Our first question for today comes from Matt Olney from Stevens. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks. Good morning, everybody.

Good. Morning, Matt.

Good morning. I want to ask you about just local competition there in your, in your footprint start on the deposit side. And stan you made a comment a few minutes ago about just deposits and, and seeing some of the competition move their pricing down just, just in general. Looking for some commentary about, you know, how much the competition is lowering pricing and, and, and how well you've been able to successfully lower some of your more promotional rates. Thanks.

And at so I guess prior to rate cuts, when treasury yield curve started to decrease in the midpoint and longer end, we were able to lower our rates and sort of our local markets were not as swift, but after the FMC cuts, we were seeing them move them down. So, our rates became a little bit more competitive and in line with them. But we've been able to drop them in line with sort of where treasuries have gone over time.

Okay, I appreciate that. And then what about on the other side, on the loan pricing side? Any any notable data points there as far as kind of the competitive pressures?

I would say that we were probably on the high end of our asking rates for loans 2 to 3 months ago. We're seeing the market come back to us a little bit right now. With the uptick on the longer end of the treasury curve had heard some commentary from some of our lenders that we, we're doing a better job being competitive with the rate sheet even though we haven't really adjusted it here recently. But really with our, our pretty strong demand where we're at on loan to deposit ratio and everything, there's not a lot of reason for us to try to be a whole lot more aggressive on the loan rate side than what we're what we are right now.

Okay, thanks for that, Matt. And then I guess on the margin and the NII commentary just want to make sure I understand kind of the guidance here. It sounds like you expect continued NII growth but, but seasonally in the December quarter end, it sounds like that margin could move sideways or down just from a liquidity build that we typically see in the quarter. But outside of that, it sounds like with lower rates, you've got some nice tailwinds there to continue to grow the margin in the NII maybe over the next year or so. Is that, is that reasonable?

The trajectory should continue that way? I'm hope I'm hopeful that sideways at worse in the December quarter would, wouldn't be what we see. But but yeah, long term, we're pretty optimistic there.

Yeah, Matt, just for a frame of reference, our deposit uptick in the the December quarter sort of been in the low to lower end of the mid single digit sort of growth quarter over quarter. So looking at a normalized period, that's sort of what we could expect.

Okay, that's helpful. And just lastly for me, the you mentioned in the prepared commentary and in the earnings release, the performance improvement project, it sounds like it's still early to go into too much detail, but maybe just big picture would love to kind of maybe appreciate kind of what your expectations are and, and, and what, what parts of the bank that the consultants are reviewing and then from a financial standpoint, what are the, maybe the, the, the goals of kind of the review?

Yeah, they're really reviewing just about everything but internal audit compliance and SARS management, risk management. But, but everything we do to serve customers is is on the table for them. Our goal really in the short term is to pay for itself, you know, over the course of a year or so longer term, we would hope to do a little better than that on a run rate. But I think what they're talking about would be low, single digit percentage of our non interest expense spend. Is that about right, Stan? Know whether we'll get there, whether we will decide everything is feasible as far as the recommendations. We'll see that, you know, that it's not just a financial play, we really want to use this to improve our operations, be better positioned for the next merger opportunity, be able to implement effectively and you know, just keep the team, team members satisfied about the tools we're giving them to serve the customer.

Okay.

Well, thanks for taking my questions and I'll step back.

Thank you, Matt.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Kelly Motta of KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. Following up on the margin, it looks like loan yields popped, pretty significantly just, and I appreciate all the moving color that, that you guys gave in the prepared remarks that's really helpful as we look to forecast ahead. I was wondering though if, if this September quarter included any, you know, outside loan fees or, nonaccrual interest recoveries in there just, ever thinking about, you know, normalizing the loan yields ahead or if that, what you reported is a pretty, pretty good run rate number for the last quarter.

There might have been a couple of basis points of impact from, from non accrual, but it wasn't significant enough that we thought we should comment on it in the release. Really if you look at what we've seen quarter over quarter with the loan yields repricing over the last, I don't know, 5-6 quarters I, if anything, it's been trending down just a little bit, the sequential improvement, we'd expect that trend to continue since we've topped out. And even now as we've begun to turn around a little bit, but hopefully by, by maintaining the pricing expectations we have, we'll continue to see some loan yield improvement quarter over quarter in December.

Yeah, Kelly, looking at some of our fixed rate loans that are repricing, around the corner this next quarter, there really isn't a material upside to yields when they're price. But sort of looking in the, the March quarter, there may be a little benefit there but nothing too big. I wouldn't expect a material increase from here on that front.

Got it. You preemptively asked. I answered my follow up question. Thanks. Thanks Stefan. Maybe, maybe the last one for me. I didn't hear any commentary on M&A on the prepared remarks. Your currency has, improved here. And I just wondering if there's any update on you guys have been a pretty skillful choir in your past couple of deals wondering if you could provide any color on the landscape here.

Yeah, still nothing beyond preliminary conversations, we do think it's likely it'll pick up a little bit. We've seen a few more conversations taking place but nothing that nothing that's imminent.

Understood. Thank you. I'll step back next quarter.

Thank you, Kelly.

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Our next question comes from Andrew Liesch of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning, guys. Just wanted to ask you, you mentioned $60 million of brokered that mature here this quarter, I guess. Do you have the runoff rate of what those are and what you think those are going to be replaced with? And then if you have any, the numbers handy, what, matures in, in the next quarter or two?

Yeah. As, as far as those yields, that they came around with a four handle on them, that we sort of did a structure of four plus. Yeah. Yeah, they range. So, we bridge some of the shorter end, the longer end, but these are coming off of probably higher fours. And then after that $60 million is the biggest bucket that we have sort of coming up here in the near term. I think after that looks like we maybe in the 7 to12 month bucket. We have another $1,820 million overall.

Andrew that, you know, we took it to mature when we, we took it to mature when it does because we're expecting seasonal inflows to allow us to repay that without that without going back to broker.

Yeah. And it looks like that rate, that average rate on that. What's coming due this quarter is 464.

Got you. All right.

Very helpful. Then just on, on fee income, sounds like some of the items will be more smoothed out throughout this year. But it is this $7 million - $7.2 million number a decent place to begin with here? Going into the second quarter?

Yeah, I think that $7 million, that we sort of gave as a guideline, still a good run rate to use from here.

Great, great.

Thanks. You've covered all my other questions. I'll step back. Thanks.

Thanks, Andrew.

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Okay. At this time, we currently have no further questions. So I'll hand back to Matt Funke for any further remarks.

Thanks Alex and thanks everyone for joining us. We appreciate your interest in the company and we'll speak again in January. Have a good day.

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