Salem Media Group Inc (SALM) 2013 Q4 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Hello, and welcome to the Salem Communications fourth-quarter 2013 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Evan Masyr, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • Thank you and thank you all for joining us today for Salem Communications' fourth-quarter 2013 earnings call.

  • As a reminder, if you get disconnected at any time, you can dial back in to area code 719-325-4821 or listen from our website, www.Salem.cc.

  • I'm joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Edward Atsinger; Dr. Frank Wright, our newly appointed President and Chief Operating Officer; David Santrella, President of radio; and David Evans, President of interactive and publishing.

  • We will begin in just a moment with our prepared remarks. Once we are done, the conference call operator will come back on the line to instruct you on how to submit questions.

  • Please be advised that statements made on this call that relate to future plans, events, financial results, prospects, or performance are forward-looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on currently available information. Actual results may differ materially from those anticipated, and reported results should not be considered an indication of future performance.

  • We do not intend and undertake no obligation to update our forward-looking statements, including forecasts of future performance, the potential for growth of existing markets, the opening of new markets, or the potential growth from future acquisitions.

  • More information on risks and uncertainties that may affect our business and financial results are included in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2012, and other public filings we have made with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

  • This conference call also contains non-GAAP financial measures within the meaning of Regulation G, specifically station operating income, EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA. In conformity with Regulation G, information required to accompany the disclosure of non-GAAP financial measures is available on the investor relations portion of our website at Salem.cc.

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Edward Atsinger.

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • Thank you, Evan, and thanks to all of you for joining us for our fourth-quarter 2013 earnings conference call.

  • There have been a number of important developments since our last call, and I want to spend a good bit of my time today discussing those developments, but let me begin first with a brief overview of our financial results for the quarter. I will hand it off to Evan when I'm done, and he will give you a much more detailed look at finances and guidance for Q1 2014.

  • Total revenue for the quarter increased 3.5% with our expenses increasing 6.3%. This resulted in a 6.2% decline in adjusted EBITDA. Our topline growth included a 1% increase in broadcast revenue and a 16.6% increase in Internet revenue.

  • But to get a better idea of the true picture, you really need to factor out the impact of political revenue in both quarters -- fourth-quarter 2012, fourth-quarter 2013. In 2012, we had $2.4 million in political revenue, but in 2013 Q4, we had only $200,000, so quite a dramatic difference.

  • If political revenue is excluded from both quarters, revenue would have grown 7.6% and our adjusted EBITDA would have increased 10.3%, so there was some real progress made in our core businesses, which we think bodes quite well for 2014, with the potential revenue impact of the midyear election in 2014 added to this growing base. So we're optimistic that 2014 looks good for us.

  • Expenses were a bit higher in Q4 than we had anticipated. The biggest single increases related to healthcare costs during the quarter, which increased about $700,000. A number of years ago, we made the decision to move from a guaranteed health cost insurance program arranged by outside providers to become partially self-insured. With our employee base, which is relatively young and relatively healthy, this was a very sound decision.

  • We did review, for example, over the last four years in comparing costs, and as a result of this change, we estimated that we saved about $2.3 million over that period of time. The only minor downside is you don't have the absolute predictability of costs from quarter to quarter, so occasional spikes like those that occurred in Q4 can happen. But we are happy to trade off a lack of predictability of costs in a given period for the actual savings that we've realized.

  • Revenue from our broadcast segment was up 1%, with a 3.7% increase in expenses resulting in a decline in station operating income of 4%. Internet revenue was up 16.6%, with a 9.9% increase in expenses resulting in an increase of 33.2% in Internet operating income.

  • Virtually all of this growth, I might add, is organic, since we have not made any material Internet acquisitions until we bought Twitchy.com, but that was late, on December 10, 2013, with very little impact on the quarter. Our Christian websites were up 37.1%, while our conservative opinion websites were flat, due to the strong political revenue impact of Q4 2012. Again, if we were to exclude the political revenue from both quarters, the conservative websites would have been up 28.9%. This segment of our business continues to perform well for us.

  • We made two important hires during the fourth quarter that I want to just comment on briefly. First, we hired Tony Calatayud to head our newly-created Spanish-language Christian teaching and talk division. Tony has a wealth of experience in this area, and we anticipate some significant growth over the next few years.

  • I might add, in fact, that we just closed on a radio station acquisition in San Antonio from Disney corporation, which will be formatted in Spanish Christian teaching talk, and we will launch that in about April 1.

  • In December, we announced the appointment of Dr. Frank Wright to the position of President and Chief Operating Officer beginning January 1, 2014. We created this position in 2007, but in the midst of the great recession, we cut back in this area and the position has been vacant since 2009.

  • We are delighted to have Frank on board. Frank is a team builder, a strong entrepreneurial leader. Having Frank aboard will improve the execution of our day-to-day operations and will allow me to devote more time to focus on strategic opportunities and initiatives.

  • We also made some important acquisitions, which we announced in December and January. In December, we closed on the purchase of groundbreaking Twitter -- a groundbreaking Twitter curation website called Twitchy.com. Twitchy was founded by Michelle Malkin, and Michelle will continue as part of Twitchy, promoting the site.

  • In early January, we bought the assets of Eagle Publishing. Included in that purchase was the leading publisher of conservative books, the iconic Regnery Publishing. Regnery has been around since 1947 and has probably some of the more influential works impacting and shaping the conservative movement in America.

  • Among the heritage of Regnery were some of the landmark books such as William F. Buckley's God and Man at Yale, Whittaker Chambers' The Witness. Regnery has recently published books by Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Newt Gingrich, David Limbaugh, and Michelle Malkin, just to name a few.

  • In addition to Regnery, the websites humanevents.com and redstate.com, two websites focusing on the conservative opinion community, were part of that acquisition, and we're happy to get those and integrate them with our Townhall.com and hotair.com, and, of course, with Twitchy.com.

  • With our existing multimedia platform, including radio, network, existing websites targeting the audience that is interested in conservative opinion content, we know we are uniquely qualified to expand those businesses and to increase traffic and revenue.

  • We have completed a pro forma, by the way, a financial pro forma that incorporates the impact of the Eagle acquisition on our 2013 results, and when you do that, it produces about 28% of our revenue in new media -- now new media and our publishing business. So one of our goals that we announced to the investment community as far back as 2009 is to continue to build our nontraditional media assets to keep up with what's happening in the communications world and to be a more diversified multimedia company. So we are very happy about this acquisition, and as I say, we think we are uniquely qualified to exploit those assets.

  • If you followed Salem in the last couple of quarters, you know that our Board voted last December to increase our quarterly dividend by 5% to $0.055 per quarter, which makes the third out of the last four quarters that the Board has concluded that a dividend increase was appropriate. All of us at Salem, both management and the Board, continue to be optimistic about the ability to generate free cash flow for the Company and enhance flexibility in capital allocation.

  • So with that, let me turn the call back to Evan to provide you with a more detailed discussion of fourth-quarter financial results and to provide some guidance for first-quarter 2014. Evan?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • Thanks, Ed. For the fourth quarter, our total revenue increased 3.5% to $62.7 million. Operating expenses on a recurring basis increased 6.3% to $52.3 million and adjusted EBITDA declined 6.2% to $13.1 million.

  • Net broadcast revenue increased 1% to $47.4 million and broadcast operating expenses increased 3.7% to $31.6 million, resulting in station operating income of $15.8 million, or a 4% decrease.

  • On a same-station basis, net broadcast revenue increased 0.2% and SOI decreased 4.6%. These same-station results include broadcast revenue from 97 of our radio stations in our network operations, which represents 99% of our net broadcast revenue.

  • I will now take a look at that broadcast revenue by format. 39 of our radio stations are programmed in our foundational Christian teaching and talk format. These stations contributed 44% of total broadcast revenue and remained flat for the quarter. Block programming was up in this format by 2.9%.

  • Our news talk stations had a decrease of 4% in revenue for the quarter, entirely due to a lack of political revenue. Overall, these stations contributed 15% of our total broadcast revenue.

  • Our 12 contemporary Christian music stations contributed 24% of total broadcast revenue and increased 5% for the quarter. Again, we are seeing some strong results from many of our music stations, most notably this quarter in Dallas and in Atlanta. The seven stations that we have in Spanish-language Christian teaching and talk moved revenue by 11%, and this format is now 2% of our total broadcast revenue.

  • Finally, in terms of formats, we have 10 stations doing a business talk format. This format contributed 3% of total broadcast revenue and increased 15% for the quarter.

  • Our network revenue increased 1% for the quarter and is 9% of total broadcast revenue. Publishing revenue was flat at $3.4 million and is representing 5% of our total revenue.

  • Finally, revenue from our Internet and e-commerce businesses increased 17% to $11.9 million. Our Internet revenue is 19% of total revenue.

  • During the quarter, we repaid $750,000 of our term loan B and $2.5 million of our revolver, and now that since we refinanced in March 2013 and put this credit structure in place, we have repaid $15.7 million of debt. At December 31, we had $291.3 million outstanding on our term loan B and nothing was drawn on our revolver.

  • Leverage ratio was 5.49, compared to the compliance covenant of 6.75. Interest expense for the quarter declined 40% to $3.7 million from $6.1 million as a result of the refinancing earlier in the year.

  • For the first quarter of 2014, we are projecting total revenue to increase 9% to 11% over first-quarter 2013 total revenue of $55.6 million. We're also projecting operating expenses before gains or losses on disposal of assets, impairment losses, and stock-based compensation expense to increase 13% to 16% as compared to first quarter of 2013 operating expenses of $48.2 million.

  • Let me provide some additional information with respect to the fact that these expenses are growing faster than revenue growth. Primarily, it is due to two items. First, as Ed mentioned, we hired two new senior executives.

  • Additionally, this guidance -- our guidance for Eagle contemplates a loss of $0.4 million for the quarter. This is caused by a combination of the assumption of some unfavorable contracts that will fairly rapidly unwind and due to the fact that the first quarter is typically a soft quarter in the book publishing business, with the big titles being released in the spring and in the fall.

  • We expect to see Eagle deliver strong financial performance for us for the year as a whole and look forward to updating you on upcoming calls.

  • And this concludes our prepared remarks, and now we would like to answer any questions that anyone may have. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Tom Kerr, Singular Research.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • I have several questions here. First one on the expenses, that increase of 5.3%. You mentioned the healthcare. That $700,000 and the two additional hires, was that the bulk of what the expense was, the increase?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • The largest increase from what we had given guidance in anticipation for fourth quarter was the healthcare. The new hires are starting in 2014, so that's impacting our 2014 guidance.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • Okay, so nothing really material besides the healthcare that was responsible for that?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • Certainly, revenue outpaced the guidance, so you have commissions associated with that. But that's really -- the biggest increase as far as expenses from what we were anticipating when we gave guidance was the medical.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • Okay, okay. And on Eagle, and sorry if I missed this, but are you guys prepared to give more financial information on Eagle? What revenues were in 2013 and what you expect revenues to be this year?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • We are not planning on providing necessarily their operating results of what they had in 2013. Certainly, we think we're going to be able to operate better than they were able to, so we are not providing any historic information, as it could potentially be misleading.

  • Trying to give a sense for what it is going to add, revenue we said was going to be 9% to 11% increase. If you back out Eagle, you probably would be looking at about a 4% to 6% increase on an organic basis of just Salem's business without Eagle.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • Okay, I can do that. And it is still -- despite the first quarter, I think, you said breakeven or small loss, it is expected to be accretive for the whole year or -- (multiple speakers) as expected? Okay. (multiple speakers) and accretive.

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • We're expecting it to be profitable for the full year.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • And accretive.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • And accretive, okay. And just some 2014 guesses, if you guys can look out a little bit farther. How are you looking at the debt paydown? How much could you pay down, would you want to pay down? Is there a goal in terms of total debt that can be paid down in this calendar year?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • I would say the big wild card to figure out what we're going to pay down or how much we could pay down is really what unique acquisition opportunities are out there.

  • Clearly, we are focused on paying down debt. Since we have put this credit facility in place in March, we have paid almost $16 million of debt. We'd certainly want to continue to do so. But it really depends what acquisition opportunities present themselves.

  • I would say if there are no good acquisition opportunities, you will see a bigger paydown in debt, and if there are great opportunities, you might see a little smaller paydown in debt.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • Okay, and that leads to my next question, so what is the M&A market that you are seeing for Internet properties or radio? Similar to the last 12 to 18 months, getting better, or getting worse in terms of things to buy?

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • I think it is getting a little better, perhaps, on the broadcast side, maybe a little tighter on the Internet side.

  • The opportunities just seem to develop in the course of the year, and you just flesh them out and you find them, and there is usually an opportunity that is challenging and complicated that you have to pursue. So it's really difficult to say.

  • We have got a certain -- we're anticipating a certain amount of free cash flow that will allow us some flexibility in capital allocation, so there's no question that we will pay down some debt and there's no question we will have some dry powder for appropriate acquisitions. And our Board has returned cash to shareholders in the form of return of -- you call them dividends, but in our case they're actually -- actually return of capital, because we are not a net taxpayer at this point.

  • But we will have flexibility to certainly pay down the debt, and we will -- on your M&A question, I would be quite surprised if we don't have some opportunities, but they just present themselves along the way.

  • Tom Kerr - Analyst

  • Okay, last question for me is on the CapEx, still around $10 million, less than $10 million, greater than $10 million? Any comments on the CapEx for 2014?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • CapEx was a little high in 2013, but there were some unique situations. For example, Superstorm Sandy caused a bit of damage in New York. We probably had about $1.2 million in CapEx just related to that during 2013.

  • So if you back that out, you'd probably get to a more normalized number, except 2014, we do have a few unique situations where we are going to have some relocations. Partly, in certain cases, it's eminent domains takings where we will have some relocation costs.

  • So the number in 2013 is probably a good number to use for 2014, but I would say that's a little abnormally high than what we should see in the future.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Pete Enderlin, MAZ Partners.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • When are you going to file the 10-K?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • We are going to be filing the 10-K on Monday, March 3.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • Okay, and that, Evan, that will not have pro formas for Eagle Publishing in it?

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • Correct, yes, it falls pretty short of the Rule 305 requirement by the SEC to provide pro forma financial statements.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • Okay, and can you give us an idea what revenues Eagle has to achieve to get the earnouts that you have laid out -- equal to what you paid upfront or what you are paying in upfront and installments?

  • David Evans - President Interactive and Publishing

  • This is David Evans, President of new media. The purchase price on Eagle is $8.5 million. There is contingent compensation that could add a further $8.5 million to that, depending upon the financial performance over the next three years.

  • We are looking for a 15% to 20% ROI from this investment. We think we can get there relatively quickly. The first year will be profitable and accretive; the second year, we will grow from that as we leverage the sale and marketing platform to drive revenue and profitability.

  • So, profitable and accretive year one, and on a net present value IRR basis, we are looking at a 15% to 20% ROI, regardless of what the purchase price ends up being. If revenues and profits do better, yes, we have to pay out more, but it gets you back to the same ROI almost regardless of the actual outcome. So I feel very good about the acquisition, and I think we will see a strong ROI quite rapidly.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • Are the payouts based on both revenues and earnings?

  • David Evans - President Interactive and Publishing

  • The payouts are based upon revenues, so the seller doesn't have to worry about our cost structure. We have to worry about that. But we were pretty careful about how we set those thresholds.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • So, can you give us an idea of what the revenues would have to be to get the additional $8.5 million?

  • David Evans - President Interactive and Publishing

  • Not off the top of my head. The thresholds -- there are four businesses that we acquired. There are different thresholds for each of the four businesses. Each stand alone, and there are different thresholds for each year, with higher thresholds for political years and lower thresholds for nonpolitical years.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • The third year is a big political year, obviously.

  • David Evans - President Interactive and Publishing

  • 2014 and 2016 are both big political years, and we address that in the specific thresholds.

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • I would say just one final qualitative thing, for us to pay out all $8.5 million, it would be pretty impressive revenue growth for us to be able to do that, so that would actually -- if we have to pay it out, it's not so bad, because we have (multiple speakers)

  • David Evans - President Interactive and Publishing

  • And our ROI in that particular case would be north of 20, so.

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • So, I guess we would say we'd be delighted to pay it out.

  • And by the way, one of the reasons that we used revenue as the benchmark and didn't get into expenses, we think there is a very substantial -- we know there is a substantial opportunity to reduce expenses because we rolled many of these assets, these businesses, onto our existing infrastructure, and much of their infrastructure, we didn't acquire in this acquisition, so we left some of their expenses -- we will consolidate a lot of them with our existing platform, certainly on the website, and consequently there will be substantial cost savings over how they have operated, and that's one of the reasons why we haven't provided historical information about their financials because I think, as Evan said, it would be misleading.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • Okay. They had some land sales in the Cleveland. Are there other stations that have land that could be sold or monetized?

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • There are none that come to mind right now. That, it was excess property in the transmitter site. We spun off a piece of it. It was in a very interesting area, quite valuable for a lot of uses.

  • I might add that on that particular transmitter site, there is also an active oil well that they -- there was an oil discovery some years ago, so you never know what's going to happen with these real estate assets, and we do have a lot of them. We have had oil discoveries on at least three of them over the years, not real big gushers, but interesting.

  • But no, I don't have any that I know of right now. There is probably still some additional land in Cleveland we could spin off of that transmitter site that is unnecessary for that purpose, but the deal we've done is the only one we have done.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • Are there other possible asset disposals that could happen this year, outside of land? Other operating assets or other types of assets that you could sell?

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • I don't think so. We have got some stations that do well for us that are not strategic that we would consider selling, and we have had some conversations, but there is nothing pending at this point on any of those.

  • We have got some real estate that we acquired some years ago for a possible transmitter site relocation in Los Angeles, a fairly large tract of land in southern California that as the market improves, we will try to see if we can't spin off. We don't need it.

  • I'm not sure that it will generate a lot of revenue, $1 million or $2 million, perhaps. But that depends on the market, and at this point, I don't know that there is any -- there is nothing that leads me to believe that we will do something in the near future on those.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you. And Evan, what is the outlook for interest expense for this year (multiple speakers)

  • Evan Masyr - EVP, CFO

  • Our term loan B is LIBOR plus [350] with a 100 basis-point floor. Any projection I have seen of LIBOR does not show it going above 1% during 2014.

  • We did enter into an interest rate swap back in March of last year that kicks in March 27 of this year. If rates stay low, and at that time, we swapped $150 million of our debt -- if rates stay low, that swap will be 5.5%, so blended will be closer to 5% for the year.

  • Pete Enderlin - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • It appears there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference back to Mr. Edward Atsinger, Chief Executive Officer, for any additional or closing remarks.

  • Edward Atsinger - CEO

  • Thank you, Operator, and again, thanks to all of you for joining us for the conference call. We hope that you will visit with us in three months when we report on first-quarter performance. So thanks, and we will see you then.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. We thank you for your participation.