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Operator
Please stand by for realtime transcript.
Good morning my name is Joanne and I will be your conference operator today.
At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.
first-quarter earnings call.
All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.
After the speaker remarks, there will be a question and answer session.
(Operator Instructions)
Thank you, Mr.
Rice, you may begin your conference.
- EVP and CFO
Thank you Joanne, and a good morning everyone.
I would like to thank each of you for joining us this morning for our first-quarter earnings call.
With me here today are Richard Fain, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Adam Goldstein, the President and CEO of Royal Caribbean International, Dan Hanrahan, our President and CEO of Celebrity Cruises, and Ian Bailey, our Vice President of Investor Relations.
During this call will be referring to a few slides which we will have posted on our investor website www.RCLinvestor.com.
Before we get started I would like to refer you to our notice about forward-looking statements.
During this call we will be making comments that are forward-looking.
These statements do not guarantee future performance and do involve risks and uncertainties.
Additionally we will be discussing certain financial measures which are non-GAAP as defined in a reconciliation of these items can be found in our website.
Richard will begin with his comments about our strategic direction.
I will follow with a brief recap of our results, comment on the demand environment and provide our forward guidance.
Adam and Dan will then talk more about our brands and then we'll open the call for your questions.
Richard?
- Chairman & CEO
Thanks, Brian.
And welcome everyone to our first-quarter earnings conference call.
As always I enjoy this quarterly opportunity to provide an informal update on what is happening in our business.
Well, these are certainly interesting times, both in our world and in our business.
That will make this discussion a little more complicated than normal.
But while there are a lot of moving parts, the net result of all of these moving parts is remarkably positive.
We therefore tried to provide more transparency in the press release itself and we intend to publish a full 10-Q later today.
The objective is to provide you with all the information in a timely manner.
Now, I know everybody's focus is on the next three quarters.
But I don't want to ignore completely the result of the first three months.
Revenues were better than expected, costs were well controlled and that combined with our hedging program led to a blow-out quarter.
It shows the upside potential for even modest improvements.
I would like to take a moment actually to enjoy that progress before we talk about the rest of the year.
Now I was hoping that the first quarter improvements would continue for the full year and for the most part they still are.
We have asked obviously been confronted though with some significant challenges from fuel and from geopolitical events.
But it is profoundly rewarding to be able to demonstrate our people's ability to deal even with those challenges.
The bottom line is we still expect 2011 to be a great year.
Almost as strong as we had originally hoped.
Now, I do have to admit that I hate bemoaning these geopolitical events and characterize them as frustrating, given the suffering they have caused for so many.
The events are tragic by any stretch of the imagination and for the many people living through them, they are unfathomable.
Our thoughts and our prayers are with all of them.
But as it relates to our business operations, by becoming a more international Company we are more broadly exposed to events that occur throughout the world.
The plus side of that is that our exposure to any one of them is much more limited than it has been in the past.
For example, previously, a Caribbean hurricane could affect the majority of the fleet all at once.
But obviously that is less so the case today.
Diversification reduces our risk from any one event but it also means that we will feel some impact from a broader range of events.
Now as you can see from our forward guidance, Japan and Egypt have caused adjustments to our full-year outlook.
But our more international fleet allocation has afforded us the opportunity to offset the med booking disruptions by the strength for example in Alaska and the Caribbean.
Overall, our risk mitigation and diversification efforts, whether they be through itinerary planning or fuel hedging, are working as they should to reduce earnings volatility and to insulate our shareholders.
And given the magnitude of the recent worldwide events and the run-up in fuel pricing, I think a $0.15 reduction and full-year earnings would constitute a surprisingly good result.
I have probably already spent too much time talking about changing events so let's talk about what has not changed.
Namely our very bullish long-term outlook for our returns and our balance sheet.
I'm sure you noticed in our press release that we mentioned our strategic focus several times.
First, with regard to the cost, we are feeling the pressures, and we are feeling then in precisely in the areas that we said we were most concerned about, food and transportation in particular.
However our team has managed to offset these cost pressures without sacrificing our customer engagement initiatives.
On a like for like basis you will note that despite the pressures, our cost estimates in constant currency have not changed.
Pretty remarkable under the circumstances.
Now Dan and Adam will spend some time talking about their respective initiatives.
But from a corporate standpoint, we see enhanced customer and agency engagement as key drivers of yield improvement going forward.
It helps that we offer such an attractive value proposition, but going forward we are concentrating on being a little less of a value.
Our business model is highly sensitive to revenue or pricing leverage.
In fact each additional 1% we can improve pricing moves our earnings per share up by about $0.25.
Given this backdrop, going forward you should expect to see us toeing the line on costs but pushing harder than ever to enhance our pricing both by being more attractive to the guests and by strengthening the support we provide to our travel agent partners.
This will continue to include sales and marketing commitments, smart hardware investments that are deployment or enhanced websites just to name a few.
These actions do put pressure on cost but we only intend to pursue them if they generate disproportionate benefit on revenues.
Along those lines you'll note that we have modestly increased our CapEx estimates.
Part of this relates to Project Sunshine which we have previously announced and which we recently finalized the contract for.
Another part of the increase relates to our revitalization program, which have been underway for some time now.
Our results from the refurbishments we have already completed have been so compelling both in terms of guest satisfaction and returns that we feel it is appropriate to accelerate and expand these.
Lastly we have also been investing in new technologies to reduce our energy consumption.
This is an area I have talked about previously and one where our team has excelled.
But we keep finding new ways to drive further enhancements and these investments drive terrific savings and great returns.
On that note I will tell you that it is nice to be back talking to this audience about long-term strategic thinking.
About how to grow our business and expand our margins.
The recent geopolitical events are tough facts of life but I think we're managing through them effectively.
The increase in the price of fuel is a greater long-term focus.
Our hedging program is doing just what it was intended to do, ameliorate short-term swings.
Longer-term we note that fuel prices don't get set in a vacuum, they are interdependent with many other factors including economic activities, foreign exchange rate and demand generation.
As noted previously, our team is working assiduously to reduce our energy consumption and they have proven remarkably adept at doing so.
Another strategic goal is to improve our balance sheet and return to investment grade.
Again we have made good progress both in terms of liquidity and financial ratios.
We intend to continue building on that base.
With that I'll turn it back over to Brian.
Brian?
- EVP and CFO
Thank you Richard.
Before I go into our results I would like to mention that we recognize there are more moving parts than usual in our results and forward guidance.
As a consequence, we are trying to be more transparent and provide you with more detail than usual to help you reconcile the numbers and better understand the drivers behind them.
Our first quarter results are summarized on our second slide.
In the first quarter we generated net income of $91.6 million or $0.42 a share.
Our operating income improved by $58 million, or by just over 63%.
Net yields improved 4% on an as reported basis and 2.8% on a constant currency basis.
We saw improvements in both ticket and onboard revenues and across all of our major product groups.
Close in bookings came in stronger than expected particularly in the Caribbean and Brazil.
Net cruise costs for APCD were up 0.2% -- were up 0.2% on an as reported basis and were down 0.1% on a constant currency basis.
We did have some timing differences but overall our management team continues to do an outstanding job managing expenses.
Fuel costs were $2 million better than expected, largely due to the performance of our swaps, which in total mitigated about $36 million of fuel price increase.
I would also like to point out that our consumption on a capacity adjusted basis improved another 4% from the first quarter of last year.
In addition to our fuel swaps, as we have previously disclosed, we have numerous WTI fuel options which provide additional insurance against rising fuel prices.
These options are at stark prices ranging from $90 to $150 and have various maturities running through 2013.
A full listing of our offer portfolio available in our 10K.
Unlike swaps which largely receive hedge accounting treatment, our options are marked to market at the end of each reporting period.
The change in value is then recorded below the line in other income.
While this can cause fluctuations in short-term earnings, options provide additional protection of future cash flows at a fixed cost.
In the first quarter we recognized a gain of $24.2 million due to the increase in the value of our fuel options.
In an effort to help you model this going forward, I will mention that option values are driven in large part by changes in spot fuel prices, and changes in the forward curve, but are also influenced by volatility.
On slide three we have plotted the changes in WTI spot prices versus the changes in the value of our option portfolio for the last year to give you a sense of how the two correlate.
As you can see it is a pretty good correlation between the two but not a perfect one.
In addition to the gains from our fuel options, we have had additional improvements in other income from our equity pickups.
Which includes our joint venture in Germany, TUI Cruises.
TUI Cruises is in only its second year of operation but is already performing very well and making positive contributions to our results.
During the first quarter we sold the Celebrity Mercury to TUI Cruises, adding a second vessel to the brand.
We did have a $24 million gain on this sale but because this was a related party transaction the gain will be recognized over an extended period and it will not be material to our earnings.
Moving onto the booking environment, with the exception of itineraries affected by the events In northern Africa and Japan, demand for our brand has been very stable to slightly improving since our last call.
And despite the disruptions in total our booked load factors and average per diem's continue to outpace same time last year by comfortable margins.
The events in Tunisia and Egypt forced us to modify the itineraries of 63 sailing's across four of our brands.
In Asia, we have one ship in the Royal Caribbean brand dedicated to the region.
Prior to the earthquake in Japan we were forecasting double-digit yield improvements for the Legend of the Seas.
Unfortunately our Spring deployment of this vessel was targeted to the Chinese market with Japan as a featured destination.
In total we have already rerouted 21 sailings as a result of the tragic events in Japan and it is likely we will need to make further modifications going forward.
While the situation is still fluid our best estimate is that the total direct impact from the combination of these geopolitical events will be approximately $0.20 per share and will reduce our yields by about 1%.
Not included in these figures are the indirect costs associated with discounting we needed to do to stimulate bookings for Mediterranean itineraries is an indirect consequence of the turmoil in the region.
Prior to the Libyan uprising, Mediterranean bookings were running ahead of the same time last year despite significant increases in capacity.
And as many of you saw in your research, during the months of February and March, demand softened considerably.
Particularly out of the US and UK markets.
Over the last few weeks however, bookings have returned to normal levels albeit at reduced pricing.
Despite all of this, I think it is important to note that we still expect our European product line in total to finish the year with yield increases in the mid-single digits.
Additionally, our other product groups, including the Caribbean and Alaska continue to show strong year-over-year improvement.
We expect this strength to substantially offset the discounting you have witnessed in the Mediterranean.
Now I would like to provide you with an update of our forward guidance for the full year.
On slide four you will see we expect yields to be up 5% to 7% on an as reported basis and up 3% to 5% on a constant currency basis.
Net cruise costs excluding fuel are forecasted to increase 2% to 3% on a constant currency basis and between 4% and 5% on an as reported basis.
On slide five we have provided a reconciliation from our previous guidance to help you see the primary drivers of the changes.
In addition to the geopolitical events I have already talked about, the primary changes from our previous guidance have been changes in currency exchange rates and the expansion of tour operations within our Pullmantur brand.
As you can see the weakening US dollar has had a positive affect on revenue yield of between 1% and 2% but it has also inflated our net cruise costs by about 1%.
Our Pullmantur brand operates a tour company that includes revenue and expenses from land operations, air charters and travel distribution.
Pullmantur has recently expanded its air and distribution operations in Spain.
Both of these initiatives are expected to strengthen our brand and improve our market position in the future.
And while this area may cause some volatility in our metrics, we expect little to no effect on earnings for the balance of the year.
We currently expect about a 1% increase in yields and about a 1.5% increase in cost due to these initiatives.
Excluding currency exchange rates and the impact of tour operations our other costs have remained consistent to slightly better than our previous guidance.
We have began to see some inflationary pressures especially related to food and transportation, but we have been able to find offsetting savings in other areas.
Turning to fuel, based on current prices we have included $770 million in our full-year guidance.
We are currently 56% hedged for the balance of 2011 and a 10% change in price equates to approximately $31 million.
Not including changes in the value of our fuel options.
On slide six we thought it would be helpful to provide you with an EPS bridge reconciling our updated guidance to the guidance we gave back in January.
At that time we provided initial guidance for the year of $3.25 to $3.45.
As I mentioned previously, the direct impact of the geopolitical events is expected to be about $0.20.
At today's pricing fuel expense, net of our hedges cost us another $0.30.
But we recovered about $0.11 of this in the first quarter from the change in the value of our fuel options.
In addition, when fuel prices are increasing, the US dollar more often than not is decreasing in value, which has a positive effect on our earnings.
Since our last call we have picked up about $0.15 in our forecast from currency.
So in a nutshell, the midpoint of our guidance has been lowered by approximately $0.15.
The bad news is that oil prices have increased about 30% since our last call and the events in Japan and northern Africa have already disrupted 84 sailings directly and caused a temporary slowdown in Mediterranean demand.
On the brighter side we have been able to offset virtually all of the increases in oil prices through our hedges, options and currency gains.
The demand environment remains sound and for a vast majority of our products, demand is as good as or better than it was in January.
And with the exception of Asia, we are forecasting yield increases for all of our other product groups.
On slide seven we have provided the guidance for the second quarter on both an as reported basis as well as a constant currency basis.
The drivers of these figures are the same as I went through for the full year.
You will likely note that the constant currency yield increase for the quarter is low relative to the full year.
This is driven by two factors.
First, the majority of the impact from events in northern Africa and Japan are expected to be felt in the second quarter, and secondly, most of the revenue upside from Pullmantur's increased tour operation will fall in the second half of the year with very limited impact in Q2.
Lastly, I would like to note that in the first quarter we paid off a $500 million bond and we continue to make good progress toward our goal of returning to investment grade.
Our liquidity as of March 31, was $1.6 billion.
I would now like to turn the call over to Adam for his comments about the Royal Caribbean International brand.
Adam?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
Thank you, Brian and good morning everyone.
As Brian mentioned, we outperformed our revenue guidance in the first quarter.
Nearly all products and source markets contributed to this success, with strong late bookings bolstering our yields throughout the quarter.
In particular we enjoyed another year of progress in the markets we formally referred to as developmental including Australia, Brazil and Singapore.
We have reached the point in these regions where we no longer consider them developmental but simply important cruise markets in which we compete.
As both Richard and Brian mentioned the various natural and human events that are affecting our world began to have an impact on us near the end of an otherwise very successful first quarter.
And will continue to have an effect on us for some time to come.
I will simply note two consequences of these events.
And Asia, the prospects for Legend of the Seas in China season were bright in the days leading up to her first Shanghai departure on March 14.
The Royal Caribbean International brand is already recognized as the leading international brand in the emerging China market and our year-over-year yield outlook was for substantial growth as Richard and Brian have noted.
Our excitement at starting the season early soon evaporated, however, as the magnitude of the multifaceted tragedy in Japan unfolded.
It became clear that we would have to radically alter our program in the short term, relocating the ship to Singapore on a few weeks notice and starting from scratch.
It is a credit to our colleagues in Asia that we can generate decent load factors under such circumstances.
Our ability to respond to an unanticipated dislocation of this magnitude in a relatively new cruise region underscores the maturity of our international sales and marketing capability and the global acceptance of the Royal Caribbean International brand.
Meanwhile in Europe, the succession of events in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya have of course had an impact on our 2011 Mediterranean program.
As with Asia, we are pleased with the ability of our sales and marketing colleagues in Europe to driving encouraging booking activity for our 11-ship Europe program this summer.
We have announced substitutions for all scheduled calls in Egypt for the remainder of the year.
We have also announced the relocation of Navigator of the Seas from the Mediterranean to the Caribbean for the Winter 2011, 2012 season.
We do not aspire to change deployments after they have been announced and open for sale.
But it is an attribute of our business model that we are able to do so when necessary.
The Navigator Winter Europe program, of 14-night cruises to Egypt was an ambitious program from its inception.
Once we found ourselves in a situation where we could not count on calling out the destination highlight of the itinerary our judgment was that we will perform substantially better by bringing the ship to the Caribbean than we would have done by changing the Egypt call to Turkey and remaining in Europe for the winter.
Although there is of course very limited visibility for the 2012 Europe season at this time, we remain bullish on our brands prospects for next year in Europe and view the Navigator situation as a unique one.
Turning to our fleet, we continue to benefit from the flawless introduction of Allure of the Seas and the dual impact in the market of the Oasis Class Ship.
In addition, during the first quarter we completed dry docks of both Freedom of the Seas and Liberty of the Seas, where under the umbrella of the Royal Advantage, we added a variety of new features and technologies that have resonated incredibly well with our guests.
For example, we now offer the DreamWorks experience on both Oasis Class ships as well as on Freedom and Liberty.
And it is a wonderful offering our guests.
In May we will revitalize the already beautiful Radiance of the Seas, again adding a number of features from our report recent ship classes, and in the fall we will do the same for Splendor of the Seas.
Finally, we continue to generate high guest satisfaction ratings and receive exceptionally positive feedback from our travel agent partners and the media around the world.
For that I would like to thank all of the men and women at Royal Caribbean for continuing to deliver the wow.
Dan?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Thanks, Adam, and good morning everyone.
It is been a very interesting few months since we last spoke.
As always, there are a lot of exciting things going on with Celebrity.
Celebrity Silhouette is in the midst of the final stages of her construction and sets sail in July of this year.
Enhancing our guest vacation time with a host of industry first venues and expenses.
In addition, we started cutting steel for the fifth in the five ship Solstice Class Series, Celebrity Reflection, at shipbuilder Meyer Werft in Papenburg, Germany, last month.
The 3,030 guests ship will debut in the fall of 2012 and be the largest of the five ships.
Our first Solticized ship, Celebrity Constellation has now been selling for almost a year since we Solticized them.
I'm very pleased with the way she has been performing including her guest satisfaction rating, onboard revenue and ticket revenue.
We have also seen good support from the travel agency community for Constellation.
Celebrity Infinity is next this November followed quickly by Celebrity Summit in January and Celebrity Millennium next April.
This is been an ambitious schedule that we feel have a very positive effect on the brand.
During the first quarter we had healthy demand for all of our products, the majority of which were Caribbean, and both volume and rate came in slightly ahead of where we had thought that the time of the previous call.
Our Solstice Class ships continued to command healthy premiums to other ships in our fleet, in both ticket and on-board revenue and all of our classes generally performed as planned.
We are also pleased with our onboard revenue.
All of our revenue areas performed as expected with their Dreams Package Program continuing to drive healthy increases in our beverage revenues.
I am quite proud of how the Celebrity team here in Miami and on the ships has managed inflationary pressures we are facing.
Our continued focus on delivering the best possible guest experience and managing our cost has continued to pay off with record guest satisfaction ratings and very strong cost control.
Some of the most exciting news is the announcement and opening of our summer 2012 and winter '12, '13, deployment.
All of this deployment will be open by the end of the month but I wanted to share the most exciting highlights and new itineraries with you today.
First, and one that our loyal Captain Club members have been anticipating for some time is the announcement that we will be introducing the ships to the Far East during the winter of 2012 and 2013.
Celebrity Millennium, which will be Solticized in April 2012, will visit nine countries new to the brand including Vietnam, Thailand and China among others.
The inaugural season will consist of a series of 14-night open dock cruises between Singapore and Hong Kong.
Also exciting and new for the brand is the introduction of the Celebrity Solstice to Australia and New Zealand for the winter of 2012 and 2013.
Celebrity Century will be sailing the Australia and New Zealand run this winter.
Our confidence in our sales and marketing team in Australia was a key part of our decision to send Solstice Down Under.
On arriving in Australia, the ship will deliver a series of 12 and 13 night open dock sailings between Sydney and Auckland, New Zealand.
Many of these itineraries that include overnight stays in Sydney.
In the summer 2012 we will have our largest Europe lineup ever with six ships, five Solstice class ships when Reflection joins the fleet in late October next year and the Solticized Constellation visiting 70 ports in 24 countries, sailing from 6 departure ports.
Brian?
- EVP and CFO
Thanks, Dan.
We will now open the call for your questions.
As a reminder we ask that you limit your questions to no more than two.
If you have more than that we will be happy to address them after the call.
Joanne?
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster.
Your first question is from the line of Tim Conder.
- Analyst
Adam or Dan, can you talk about how the demand from the UK is relative to the continent and then if there's any way to exclude the impact of what's going on in the and ME&A and in relation to that too maybe contrast the cruise industry demand, what you are seeing relative to that of Thomson and some of the other more land focused tour operators?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
Wow.
I don't know how many questions that actually aggregated to, Tim.
I think probably more than two.
Well, the UK market as you know is a very strategic market for us and it is a market that is actually the primary source market for our European cruise programs.
And we expect to have a solid successful season from the UK market.
We had gotten off to a good start for the market and we believe that the customers there will continue to see the value of our cruises throughout the Mediterranean and Baltic region as the season goes on so it is one of the markets that we are counting on for our sourcing of the program the summer and we expect the market to come through for us.
We do see somewhat differential performance from one market to another depending on their geography and their relationships with some of the different events that have taken place.
But in the last month or so we have seen pretty solid demand, some of it at lower prices than we would have received if we had been in the absence of these events but nevertheless we expect to fill our ships and we expect to do it at reasonable pricing as the season wears on.
It's very hard to divorce what is happening in the UK and the EMEA markets from the rest of what we are doing because they've just become so strategic and such a primary source market for us that we take them sort of integrally into the mix as we do our business.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Tim its Dan.
I can add a little bit.
I can tell you that with Eclipse, which is an ex-UK product and substantially sourced out of the UK, the demand has been very strong and we're experiencing a very, very good year at of the UK.
Prices are up pretty substantially over year-ago so we are quite pleased with the UK performance.
I cannot comment really relative to the tour operators, but I can tell you anecdotally that our team is proud of what they have been able to accomplish this year.
- Analyst
Okay.
And then maybe as my second question here.
Can you talk about whether the North American perspective or European perspective, what percent of passengers in general are fly versus drive to the ports of departure?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
Hey, Tim it's Adam.
Are you talking about on a global basis?
- Analyst
Yes.
And does that vary between North American passengers or European passengers?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
Okay, well in general, we, and to some extent the whole dinner industry over time has developed lots and lots of new home ports making it a lot easier for people to get to the cruises and that doesn't really matter at this whether your' re in Asia, Europe or in the Americas, there are major cruises departing from somewhere near you.
So if you come back to Europe what you asked about originally, more than three quarters of our customers on our 11-ship program in Europe this season are not from the US.
So while the US people who are trying to cruise with us in Europe have to figure out the air situation obviously in order to get over for the cruise, that is less than one quarter of our sourcing mix.
And in the US obviously if you live in Chicago you're probably looking at air transportation to get to the cruise but with the range of cruises that we offer around the seaboard there is a lower percentage of people that have to do that than ever before.
- Analyst
Okay.
And then is there any kind of global composite number of drive versus fly customers?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
I don't think we have that number.
We really look at it on a deployment by deployment basis and making sure the ships in the right places for the markets, but it's certainly a lot -- there are a lot fewer people flying to cruises than there used to be.
I just don't have the exact percentage.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Tim, I can tell you that the number of people that purchased their air through us is only about 10%.
- Analyst
Okay.
Thank you, gentlemen.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Can we have our next question, please?
Operator
Your next question is from the line of Sharon Zackfia.
- Analyst
Good morning.
I apologize if I missed this but did you comment as to whether or not Mediterranean pricing was leveling off?
And then if you could give us some idea as we look forward to the back half of the year, are we expecting yields to then peak in the third quarter because of the seasonality of some of the issues that you were talking about or is it more of a fourth-quarter peak and yield?
- EVP and CFO
Sharon, the Mediterranean we are still discounting.
We have got the volume back to where it needs to be but it is discounted from before the Libyan situation.
But the volume is back and our yields in aggregate from the other products are substantially offsetting that discounting.
We are looking at peak yields in the third quarter in part because of the impact of the items that we talked about, but also as we alluded to on our last call, the third quarter is probably where we have the most ground to make up to pre-recession levels.
- Analyst
Okay and then I guess just to clarify.
When I was asking about pricing in the Mediterranean I was wondering if the pricing is continuing to go down or now that you are seeing the bookings reestablish themselves if you are seeing some sort of level ground there?
I understand it is discounted versus couple of months ago.
- EVP and CFO
Okay, I'm sorry.
At this point we are not adding discounts other than the normal tactical things that go on in the marketplace.
But I think our pricing is more back in equilibrium with the demand environment.
And relatively stable at this point.
- Analyst
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Operator
Your next question is from the line of Kevin Milota.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
I was hoping you'd give a little bit more detail surrounding the cost initiatives you have to offset the food and transportation pricing?
And then also if you could just provide a little bit more detail for the second and third quarter in terms of booked load factor and per diems for the North American and European business kind of parse out both pieces?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
Thank you, Kevin this is Adam.
On the cost initiatives which go across all of our brands, but clearly when we are under pressure for things like food costs and transportation costs we're going to be looking at our general and administrative costs environment looking at the ways that we move our crew around the world to and from the ships in their homes.
And in general looking for every opportunity that we possibly have that doesn't have any impact on guest satisfaction, which both Dan and I have noted remains at very very high levels.
Which is core to our strategy.
So while we are always attentive to cost under these circumstances we look even harder than ever and we find offsetting opportunities.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Kevin, in terms of the book load factors and ATD's, the only level of detail we are going to provide is the fact that both are up in aggregate.
I think I mentioned in my script that we are looking for all of our product groups to have year-over-year yield improvement based on the order book we have today with the one exception of Asia as a result of the events in Japan.
- Analyst
Okay thanks a lot.
Operator
Next on the line is Felicia Hendrix.
- Analyst
This is kind of asking a question another way.
But in your last quarter you mentioned in January they were 50% booked for the year so where are you now?
- EVP and CFO
Sure, I'm sorry Felicia.
We don't have a specific number that we are prepared to provide today.
I can tell you that we, as normal at -- after the post wave season, we are obviously feeling better and better about our order book and where it is and our ability to meet the projections that we have provided.
Generally speaking, we have talked about being 50% booked in the rolling 12 month period and that if you look at it quarterly it is rather linear.
And I think from there you should be able to triangulate where we are.
- Analyst
Okay.
And then you've mentioned several times in the call that your pricing is good everywhere else besides the Mediterranean.
I'm just wondering in those other regions are you continuing to be able to raise prices?
And after that in context of the promotional environment, we are seeing in the Caribbean, I know that you have discussed that as being tactical, but I'm wondering how that compares to other periods just to give us a context as to those tactical promotions?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Hi Felicia it's Dan.
The first part of your question is we have been able to raise prices but as Brian mentioned in his comments, about Alaska in the Caribbean, and another area that we have been able to get some traction on price has been Bermuda this year.
So we are seeing outside of the med the ability to raise prices we have also been able to raise some prices in northern Europe.
So we are able to largely offset the shortfall in the med.
And then the met promotions are our typical promotions that we do anywhere when we run into a situation where we are not getting the demand that we'd like.
So we have seen prices level off but there are specific sailings, where we have had to do tactical things that will help spur demand, onboard credit, travel agents et cetera.
- Analyst
I'm sorry, the promotions that I was talking about were, if you could comment on those in the Caribbean that we are all seeing?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
So we're -- I might turn that out over to Adam because Celebrity is leaving the Caribbean right now.
So we're out, so I will let Adam handle that one.
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
I think it is actually good that you referred to some of the promotional activity as possibly being normal, because one of the yield maximization techniques that is completely normal is promotional activity to help us achieve the highest prices possible on a variety of ships, working customers from a variety of markets and I would characterize what's happening in the Caribbean as completely normal at this point.
The overall situation is positive, the outlook is positive, the experience that we just had in the last quarter was positive.
So the Caribbean environment is in pretty good shape for our brand.
- Analyst
Okay great.
Thanks, guys.
Operator
Your next question is from the lives of line of Steve Wieczynski.
- Analyst
Yes, good morning guys.
Going back to Europe, you talked about pricing but the booking window there has historically been a little bit longer than what you get in North America.
Have you seen any change there over the past six months
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Steve, I would say that the booking window reflects the transition that has occurred in the business.
Which is that you have people closer to home generally cruising on the ships.
So as that mix has changed from people coming from far away to cruise toward people coming from close away to cruise, the booking window reflects that accordingly.
People don't have to do long-term planning for their air arrangements at the same rate as they would have previously done.
People who can drive to the ship, take a bus to the ship, take a train to the ship are able to make decisions later in time.
So the evolution of the booking window with respect to the European programs reflect the fact that the programs of 10 or 15 years ago which were almost entirely in our case aimed at getting North Americans to take a long haul trip over to Europe to experience the European cruise vacation have now shifted to where it's primarily for local markets to take cruise vacations.
- Analyst
Okay.
I got you.
And then Brian a question for you on the SG&A line, that spiked up there a good bit sequentially.
What caused that, is this a better level than what you witnessed back in 2010?
- EVP and CFO
I think, Richard and Adam and Dan all referenced a lot of our customer engagement initiatives, we do have investments that we're making in the new markets.
We are also investing, I think Richard alluded to websites and some of the other initiatives that we have.
I think if -- the G&A line is very well controlled right now but we are investing in the marketing side.
We think strategically that is in our best interest and will help drive the revenues where we would like to get them.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
And, Stephen, I will just add I think that we do see that the investments that we are making, most of this relates either to sales and marketing efforts in the US or to our growth internationally.
So we have significantly expanded our focus and our offices in places like China and Brazil, et cetera.
We're also investing in things that will hopefully make us even more attractive to the travel agent community in terms of systems and programs.
So all of those are expensive and they have been included in our forecast and our expectations.
And while we, coming back to a question that was asked earlier, while we are trying to control costs and seem to have done so, we are not doing it at the sacrifice of those things which we think pay off.
- Analyst
I appreciate it, thanks.
Operator
You next question is from the line of Robin Farley.
- Analyst
Great, thanks.
I wanted to clarify, there's a lot of moving parts obviously in your guidance, so just to clarify so we can think about just cruise demand.
And excludes Pullmantur because that is not really meaningful to cruise yields and then currency.
If your prior guidance was constant currency of up 4% to 5%, if we exclude the additions of Pullmantur, is the bottom end of your constant currency yield guidance now, is the range now 2% to 4%, in other words the bottom end of the range looks like it's going down by 200 basis points excluding currency in Pullmantur.
And I just want to understand where the other 100 basis points, you mentioned the other 100 basis points from the disruptions from geopolitical events, but it looks like the bottom end of the range may be going down by 200 basis points.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Robin, I think if you go back on the website and look at slide five.
We have done our best to really try to reconcile this.
I think the bottom line here is if you take currency out, and he takes Pullmantur tour expansion out, and you take the events specifically, the very direct impact of Japan and northern Africa, just the direct part,
everything else is about the same in aggregate as it was in January.
That the Mediterranean discounting has put a drag on yield but we have been able to offset that with Alaska, Caribbean, Bermuda and other products that Adam and Dan talked about.
In terms of the mechanics of the number I think we tried to lay that out as best we could on the slide
- Analyst
I do see the slide but the slide actually does not clarify.
Your specific constant currency yield increase at Pullmantur.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Our constant currency without -- taking currency and Tour out of it would be down about 1% as a result of the events in Japan and northern Africa.
All other products net out with the Mediterranean being a drag and everything else being positive and offsetting that.
- Analyst
So your constant currency excluding Pullmantur is or is not up 2% to 4% now?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
I don't have the mechanics of the numbers you are describing.
And I think I could more than work you through this.
- Analyst
Okay, that would help because it just, it looks like excluding the basis points from Pullmantur that the bottom of the range is ex currency and ex Pullmantur may be down by about 200 basis points.
I just wanted to understand what was driving that?
And then also just now clarifying the release the full-year EPS range of the $3.10 to $3.30, that's -- you are including the benefit of the fuel options there so excluding the fuel option would be to $2.99 to $3.19?
Is that right, I just to make sure?
- EVP and CFO
$0.11 is in our guidance.
- Analyst
Okay.
So thanks for clarifying that.
The other question I had was if you could comment on whether you will be hedging or are interested in hedging above, looking into 2014, you have historically hedged out starting three years out.
Will you be hedging above the $103 per barrel that you mentioned in the release or what are the plans for 2014 hedges now?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Yes, Robin, we tend to keep looking at these things on an ongoing basis.
We don't have, so we're not going to specify a specific at any one point in time.
We do tend to be a little bit opportunistic.
We have already entered in to some hedges for 2014 which we talked about and disclosed in the release and in our filings.
So I think you can assume that we will continue this kind of pattern that we have in the past where as we consume we continue to look forward.
I think you can also assume that we'll continue to have a strong focus on things that we can do to reduce the total amount of fuel we consume.
So we will yes, continue to hedging out but hopefully we will have less to hedge as we continue to conserve.
- Analyst
Okay great.
Thanks.
Operator
And next question is from the line of Janet Brashear.
- Analyst
Hi this is Jonathan Wang in for Janet.
We were wondering if you could speak about the composition of your cruise itineraries?
In terms of the break down between developed markets like the US and Europe, versus emerging markets and how you expect that to evolve going forward?
Thanks.
- EVP and CFO
Jonathon, I will mention that I think the best way to do this is if you could give Ian a call after, he can give you the specific breakdown is it currently exists.
Maybe Adam and Dan want to comment in terms of where the trend is going forward.
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
This is Adam, hi.
From an overall perspective the Royal Caribbean international fleet is now in a stable posture.
We have received our new ships, we do not have a new ship coming for some years.
So we will be roughly where you see us at.
We have made very strong commitments to Europe.
We have important involvement in Brazil and Australia and China.
And the ports we maintain a strong competitive position in and around North America and the Caribbean.
So we are probably not going to change other than at the margin because at this point with a stable fleet if we take something towards one area that means we have to reduce in another and we are pretty optimistic about all the regions in which we are competing.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
I think it's also, I would just make Jonathan one additional comment.
As Adam mentioned in his script, some of the things that we used to call developmental are now core to us.
That is the progress that we have gone through although as Adam says we think we are mostly through that progress.
- Analyst
Great thanks guys, I appreciate it.
Operator
Next question is from the line of Assia Georgieva.
- Analyst
Yes, I had a question to follow up on Robin's question on the fuel options.
In the guidance that you've provided us, the $3.10 to $3.30, have you included any other potential accounting benefits from the fuel option mark-to-market other than the $0.11?
- EVP and CFO
Assia the $0.11 is in there but because we won't mark-to-market to the end of the quarter there would be no additional in there.
- Analyst
Okay.
So that would come--?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
That is done at the end of each quarter.
And it is based on a market value of the options of that target value.
- Analyst
Okay, thank you.
And my second question is three months ago when you were looking at Q2 during a key booking timeframe for that quarter, how have your expectations changed relative to today's guidance?
I imagine they have come down can you give us the magnitude?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Again, I think the best way to say it is that the Mediterranean became softer as a result of Libya.
Obviously the events in Asia and Egypt and Tunisia had an impact, I would say all those product lines are down from our expectations when we had our last call.
But our expectations related to the Caribbean, Alaska and the other product lines are the same to slightly better.
And the net effect of it is, excluding the direct impact of Egypt, Tunisia and Japan, that net is all about the same as a was three months ago.
- Analyst
And would it be fair if today our core yield guidance constant dollar of 1% to 2% three months ago maybe you were looking at 3% to 4%?
Is the magnitude that we are looking at?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
As it relates to the second quarter?
- Analyst
Yes.
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
Yes.
I would say that the expectations are probably down in the range of between 2% to 3%.
Mainly because of the events that we have talked so much about today.
- Analyst
Okay.
And if we assume Q3 yields of about 6% would we be far off from kind of your expectations?
- President & CEO, Celebrity Cruises
What we have said is that Q3 will be the peak and I think given the guidance that we have you should be able to back into that number.
- Analyst
Well, we also have Q4 which is always tough so.
- EVP and CFO
Right.
Ian will be more than happy to help you with that one.
- Analyst
Okay, I will bother him after the call.
Thank you, Brian.
- EVP and CFO
Okay thanks, Assia.
Operator
Your next question is from the line of Greg Badishkanian.
- Analyst
Yes, great thanks.
My two question, the first one is as you look out to 2012, are you seeing any discounting there or is really just the discounting in the summer sailings from the disruption?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
Hi, Greg, its Adam.
As we've kind of alluded to earlier in the conversation, the discounting in general as a part of revenue maximization.
And we are certainly not seeing anything unusual with respect to that far forward.
So it is very early days and there is limited visibility.
But at this point we are optimistic about that timeframe and the tactical activities are what you would probably expect this far in advance.
- Analyst
Okay, all right.
Good to hear.
And then second question, just in terms of a consumer perspective, the reason for the discounting -- I understand the disruption, is the consumer thinking it's more economic, is a more economic there also?
Is there a safety issue or just the itinerary change led to lot of disruptions that led you to need to discount to fill up those itineraries?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
Greg, it's probably a combination of all those, but I think really it's what's going on in northern Africa, and people taking a wait and see approach to that.
And what we have done is we have stimulated the market with price and we've been able to get the demand to come back as a result of that.
- Analyst
And you hear maybe that it's more of a safety issue is that also somewhat of an issue for the consumer there?
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
I think it is uncertainty is what is driving this.
I don't think that the consumers, are definitely concerned about their safety being in parts of southern Europe but I just think it's the uncertainty that these kind of events make people be a little slower to pull the trigger on booking their vacation.
- Analyst
Right.
Thank you.
- President & CEO - Royal Caribbean International
You bet.
Joanne, I think we have time for one more question, please?
Operator
Your next question is from the line of Steve Kent.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
Maybe I could go back to Robin's question because I think that it's one that I'm struggling with too, which is it just looks like you have lowered the second half of 2011 pretty dramatically and I still don't get it.
And I know you spent now an hour reviewing it but it does look like that's happening and then the second question I have is you said that your expenses were lower in the first quarter due to timing and that's the second time you've said that because in the fourth quarter you said the same thing.
So are all of these expenses -- is that why the second half is going to be lower?
Because some of these expensive that happened in the fourth quarter 2010, first quarter 2011 are going to get shifted to the second half?
- EVP and CFO
Steve, the primary reason the last nine months of the year would be down is $0.30 is related to fuel prices.
All of which is hitting in Q2, Q3 and Q4.
If you remember we actually beat Q1 on fuel by about $2 million because there was $0.30 there.
There is $0.20 related to the events in northern Africa and Japan.
And then a distant third-place would be some cost timing shifts.
They are not substantial shifts, we are probably talking in the high single millions of dollars and it's more the timing of things like maintenance on our vessels and some of the marketing investments that can shift easily between quarters.
There is no structural shift in cost.
But the events and the fuel prices are all concentrated in Q2, Q3 and to a lesser extent Q4.
- Analyst
Okay.
Thanks I guess I'll talk to Ian.
- EVP and CFO
Okay.
Well, we thank everybody for joining us today and Ian will be available throughout the day for any follow-ups you may have and we wish everyone a great day.
Thank you.
Operator
This concludes today's conference call, you may now disconnect.
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