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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, everyone.

  • Welcome to the Dave & Buster's Entertainment, Inc.

  • Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Results Call.

  • Today's call is being hosted by Brian Jenkins, Chief Executive Officer.

  • I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning later today.

  • Now I would like to turn the conference over to Arvind Bhatia, Senior Director of Investor Relations, for opening remarks.

  • Arvind Bhatia - Director of IR

  • Thank you, Lisa, and thank you all for joining us.

  • On the call today are Brian Jenkins, Chief Executive Officer; and Scott Bowman, Chief Financial Officer.

  • After comments from Mr. Jenkins and Mr. Bowman, we will be happy to take your questions.

  • This call is being recorded on behalf of Dave & Buster's Entertainment, Inc.

  • and is copyrighted.

  • Before we begin our discussion of the company's results, I'd like to call your attention to the fact that in our remarks and our responses to your questions, certain items may be discussed, which are not based entirely on historical facts.

  • Any such items should be considered forward-looking statements and relating to future events, within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

  • All such forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those anticipated.

  • Information on the various risk factors and uncertainties have been published in our filings with the SEC, which are available on our website at www.daveandbusters.com, under the Investor Relations section.

  • In addition, our remarks today will include references to EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA and store operating income before depreciation and amortization, which are financial measures that are not defined under generally accepted accounting principles.

  • Investors should review the reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP results contained in our earnings announcement released this afternoon, which is also available on our website.

  • Now I will turn the call over to Brian.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Arvind.

  • Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our call today to discuss second quarter results and our outlook for the business.

  • For the quarter, we reported record results, increasing revenue by 8%, EPS by 7% and EBITDA by 5%.

  • We have built a high-margin business that generate strong free cash flow, which when combined with our strong balance sheet, has enabled us to return more than $200 million in share repurchases and dividend, and reduced our float by almost 13% at the end of the second quarter.

  • While we continue to profitably grow our business and returned significant capital to shareholders, our comp sales results came in below expectations as last year's VR launch proved difficult to match and our promotions were not as effective as we had anticipated.

  • We also create headwinds from adverse weather and the continued impact of competitive intrusion and cannibalization.

  • Later, Scott will provide more details on these factors and additional highlights on the quarter in his prepared remarks.

  • But first, let me share with you what we're seeing in the market and our approach to managing the business to maximize value for shareholders.

  • There is no question that we are in an attractive and growing category, as consumers continue to increase spending on experiences.

  • As a leading brand that delivers most of experiences, we are in a great position to capitalize on this favorable secular trend.

  • At the same time, this trend and our success has attracted many more players in the space, and the overall market today is quite fragmented and competitive.

  • Over the past 18 months, we've made important progress on several fronts, including enhancements to our Food and Beverage offerings and the introduction of immersive games, including our industry-leading VR platform.

  • As part of our focus on operational excellence, we've also improved our service as reflected in our consistently higher guest satisfaction scores.

  • While we've accomplished a lot, we see great opportunities for continued improvement and recognize we have a lot more to do.

  • As I have mentioned on previous calls, we see immense opportunity to drive traffic by increasing guest frequency and improving F&B attachment once guests are in the door.

  • With an annual frequency of less than 2x and F&B attach rate of approximately 50%, driving deeper guest engagement to improving these metrics is our biggest opportunity to reignite same-store sales growth.

  • In the near term, our goal is to execute on 5 priorities that we have identified to maximize shareholder value.

  • First, the revitalization of our existing stores, which in the near term includes reenergizing the dining area of many of our stores to drive Food and Beverage attachment.

  • And also includes continued food, beverage and amusement innovation to augment our offering, all of which is a part of introducing new “wow” experiences.

  • Second, we are focused on building deeper guest engagement, which includes the nationwide launch of our new mobile app in October.

  • It also includes increasing investment in digital media to more effectively reach our guests.

  • Third, we are fueling growth investments by surgically reducing costs in other areas.

  • Through the realization of operational efficiencies, both in our stores and corporate office, we expect to fund our growth initiatives organically, by redirecting resources into our P&L.

  • Third -- fourth, we are enhancing rigor on capital and resource allocation to invest in the highest returning opportunities for the overall D&B system.

  • This includes optimizing store formats to match market sales potential and managing the pace of new store growth, to maximize returns and sufficiently focus our development team and store-level managers on advancing our store revitalization efforts.

  • And fifth, returning significant capital to shareholders in the form of share repurchases and dividends.

  • I went through those pretty quickly.

  • So let me spend some time on each of these 5 priorities, particularly, the first.

  • Our #1 priority is store revitalization to reignite comparable store sales growth.

  • Our focus on this initiative begins this quarter, with our Wow Walls to reenergize our dining rooms.

  • For those of you who have been to our Dallas store, you know we have been testing this idea since late last year, the cutting-edge digital display technology, using a nearly 50-foot LED screen that can be customized by location.

  • We are very pleased with the lift we have seen in Dallas, particularly in F&B, and plan to roll out the Wow Walls technology in 35 additional stores by the end of October as the football season gets underway.

  • Over time, we also plan to extend LED technology to our sports lounges to seen in our position as one of the best and most innovative sports touring destinations in the country to drive reach, frequency and F&B penetration.

  • The Wow Walls and expanding the use of LED technology are only some of the improvements we are making to our stores.

  • In addition, we reengaged Jackman Reinvents to take a comprehensive look at our store portfolio and offerings to assist with our brand revitalization and a strategic refresh.

  • As the foremost customer experience reinvention company and an organization that we have worked with, to great effect in the past, we believe this highly successful partnership will continue to be instrumental in enhancing our integrated experience across all customer touch points.

  • We are committed to our store revitalization efforts and are excited about the opportunities in front of us.

  • In addition, as we look to keep our games and attractions refreshed, we are excited to launch Terminator VR, which will be the company's fifth proprietary title in our VR library.

  • The launch will coincide with the release of the new Terminator movie in November.

  • We're excited to continue to leverage our leadership in the industry to be the go-to place for cutting-edge entertainment.

  • Making sure we have a strong pipeline of gains and other initiatives to wow our guests and drive comparable store sales will continue to be a top focus for our team.

  • With all of the projects underway and as new strategies emerge from our engagement with Jackman, we will maintain new store development flexibility and optionality, not only for our store revitalization efforts, but also to execute new initiatives.

  • Our second near-term priority, which goes hand in hand with the first is the building deeper guest engagement.

  • We have already discussed the large and untapped opportunity to unlock guest frequency and F&B penetration.

  • Our new mobile app, growing out nationally later this quarter, is an important tool that will help us exploit this opportunity.

  • The app allows guests to use their phones to quickly purchase and recharge digital power cards, TAP & PLAY games and earn valuable loyalty points.

  • It will also allow us to connect directly with guests and deliver targeted, personalized offers, whether they're in-store or out of store.

  • The New app allows us to capture powerful actionable guest data and in a way that is highly differentiated in our industry.

  • The app will be promoted on TV and through digital media, and our 12,000 guest taking employees will also play a key role in increasing awareness and use of the app.

  • We look forward to updating you on our progress in the future.

  • Now I'll turn to our third priority, which is to surgically reduce costs and redeploy those realized savings to fuel investments and organic growth opportunities.

  • As you know, we enjoy industry-leading margins, a result of significant margin expansion over the past decade.

  • In fact, since 2006, we have nearly doubled our EBITDA margins.

  • We have achieved these results by delivering revenue growth while maintaining disciplined cost management.

  • This proven discipline continues to serve us well today.

  • Our preliminary estimate before onetime cost and reinvestment is that we can achieve approximately $15 million in annualized cost savings from near-term initiatives, including off-peak labor optimization, further centralizing our special events team, some G&A streamlining and modest changes to recipes and gaming mix.

  • We made these changes thoughtfully in order not to impact the quality of the guest experience.

  • We intend to reinvest most of our realized savings back into new initiatives to fuel organic growth.

  • And speaking of new growth investments, we are investing and building a dedicated team to support the increasing digital presence and capabilities we anticipate.

  • We have added resources to our technology group and have engaged third parties to collect anonymized privacy protected data on our guests at a macro level, data that will complement what we are learning directly via the app.

  • We are still hiring in this area with a few positions currently open to round out our consumer and data insights team.

  • As we build a more robust database and gain valuable consumer insights, over time, we will have actionable intelligence to make our digital media, promotions and offers more relevant, targeted and customized for our guests.

  • We are optimistic about the potential to drive better guest engagement by the investments we are making in our team, our technology and digital presence and look forward to reporting on our progress.

  • To provide a little more context here, I want to emphasis our balance strategy.

  • We're not simply cutting costs to temporarily boost margins.

  • Instead, we are reallocating resources to the highest return opportunities, mainly in the areas of deeper guest engagement, digital marketing and consumer intelligence capabilities.

  • We are improving our operational efficiencies, while maintaining and building on the company's strong market position and competitive differentiators.

  • Turning to our fourth priority.

  • I mentioned earlier, we have a rigorous approach to deploying our capital to the highest return opportunities.

  • In addition to some of the exciting organic initiatives I have described, opening new stores, in an attractive location also remains an important part of our growth strategy.

  • Backdrop is that during the past 18 months, competitive store openings have accelerated, presented a major headwind to the entire industry.

  • I know there are differing views among investors regarding our unit expansion strategy.

  • So I want to take a moment to clarify our process for investing in new stores, particularly as compared to other capital allocation priorities.

  • We know our stores deliver a strong value proposition.

  • It is reflected in what we believe our best-in-class AUV margins and store-level returns.

  • We only pursue unit growth, when the incremental unit delivers a compelling return on capital, both on a standalone basis and when considering its impact on our entire system.

  • Since 2011, the 29 new stores that have been opened for at least 3 years have averaged annualized returns of 45% over their first 3 years.

  • Looking at a more recent cohort such as our 2016 class, this group has also averaged annualized returns of 45% in its first 2 years.

  • Realizing less than 3-year payback on a standalone business represents a compelling opportunity for opening new stores.

  • In addition to strong return on capital, there are ancillary long-term benefits in opening multiple stores in a market.

  • The additional stores delivered strong returns, increased stored density, provide leverage on G&A and marketing and talent retention that help us fortress the market for the long term.

  • While we're pleased with our success in the past, we're also excited to introduce more productive and higher-return prototypes as we increasingly enter smaller markets.

  • Take, for example, our 17K format Corpus Christi store, which opened in late 2018 and is on track to generate year 1 sales of over $8 million, in line with the targeted volume for our 30K box.

  • The store is expected to achieve approximately 35% store level margins and a 50% cash-on-cash return in its first year.

  • While we're not suggesting all 17K format stores will generate this level of performance, Corpus Christi, given straight, a potential, efficiency and return of a smaller 17K format store, with such attractive opportunities are available to make compelling financial sense to pursue them.

  • As we continued to identify high-value opportunities and revitalizing existing stores, we believe it's prudent to balance the demands that store openings place on our corporate infrastructure, development team and in-store talent.

  • As a part of our ongoing review process, we are carefully considering the pace of new unit growth, consistent with our top priority of revitalizing our existing stores, we are preserving our optionality on new-store openings in the back half of 2020 and in 2021.

  • While it's too soon to announce any changes at this time, we are evaluating our options, and we'll pursue the path that we believe will create the most value to shareholders.

  • In the meantime, continuing to open high-return new stores, here's the right strategy from a competitive perspective, but also in terms of maximizing return on investment.

  • Our investment philosophy will continue to be balanced, and opening new stores will continue to be just one aspect of our overall capital spending plan.

  • As I've mentioned, in the near term, reenergizing our existing stores to drive frequency and improving comp will be our top priority.

  • And finally, our fifth near-term priority, to create long-term shareholder value is returning capital to our shareholders.

  • Beyond investing in our business, we have been using our strong free cash flows and balance sheet flexibility to opportunistically buy back our stock and pay a healthy dividend to shareholders.

  • Reflecting confidence in our long-term potential and the current valuation of our shares, the Board recently increased our share repurchase authorization another $200 million to $800 million.

  • And as you heard me say at the beginning of the call, we have been quite active on the capital return front.

  • We believe that capital return will continue to be an important contributor to our story going forward.

  • To wrap up, we expect that generating improved comps and operational efficiency, achieving high RIs from new stores and returning capital to shareholders are not mutually exclusive.

  • It will all be important contributors to value creation at Dave & Buster's.

  • We have the talent, resources and a long track record of success that shows we can effectively and simultaneously execute on our plans.

  • Importantly, I would like to stress that we will continue to maintain a strong pipeline of additional high-return ideas that we actively evaluate to supplement the initiatives already underway.

  • We are conducting a thorough review of all aspects of our business and operations as a part of our annual strategic planning process.

  • We will adjust our strategic plan in response to our business review, competitive dynamics, market conditions and other factors.

  • We are a nimble, experienced team, taking decisive action in the face of recent performance and acting with appropriate urgency to extend Dave & Buster's' long track record of delivering outperformance and superior returns.

  • With that, I'll turn it over to Scott to discuss the quarter's highlights, our financial performance and updated 2019 guidance.

  • Scott J. Bowman - Senior VP & CFO

  • Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone.

  • I'll begin by spending a few minutes discussing the highlights of the second quarter, followed by our financial performance and then finish with our full year guidance.

  • First, our key achievements in the second quarter.

  • In Amusements, we strengthened our VR library with the launch of our fourth proprietary title, Men in Black: Galactic Getaway.

  • In addition, during the summer, we launched several exciting games, including Centipede, Tons of Ticket and Ring Toss and Basketball Pro.

  • These titles have all tested well with our guests and initial read on the performance has been positive.

  • Within F&B, this summer, we introduced a Hawaiian theme limited time offer, we called [Iron Vibe] that include craveable entrees like smoky barbecue baked in Hawaiian ribs, a low hot ginger salmon and crispy Hawaiian chicken sliders.

  • For our upcoming October menu, we will introduce new items including a grilled chicken avocado ramp sandwich and drunken New York strip while removing a few slower moving items.

  • We will continue to enhance and innovate offerings in F&B as we know this will be an important contributor to our go-forward success.

  • In terms of our marketing campaigns, during Q2, we continued to run our unlimited range and unlimited video games promotion on Thursdays, as we did in Q1.

  • In addition, we tested 2 promotions highlighting food and game combos.

  • Favorable combos which we ranked for 4 weeks, followed by eat and unlimited play combos.

  • Collectively, these value-oriented campaigns did not resonate with our guests as well as we had anticipated.

  • Going forward, we will continue to test new promotions to bring value to our guests and increasingly leverage digital marketing to communicate our message.

  • For Q3, we have also brought back a 1999 Unlimited Wings on game days during the football season.

  • This promotion now includes the $10 Power Card instead of unlimited gameplay, which we believe will help improve per capita spend in amusement.

  • With respect to new stores, we have opened 3 new locations in the quarter and have opened 2 additional stores since quarter end.

  • Year-to-date, we have opened 12 new stores and we continue to expect to open 15 to 16 new locations for the full year.

  • These store openings for the full year will skew for large format stores and new markets.

  • Looking ahead, we still have a significant white space opportunity.

  • We have 132 locations currently and continue to believe our long-term opportunity is 230 to 250 locations in the U.S. and Canada alone.

  • We will continue to be prudent and disciplined as we expand our footprint, ensuring we invest in highest return opportunities, while returning excess capital in the form of dividends and share repurchases.

  • And now let me turn to our financial highlights.

  • During the second quarter, total revenues increased 8%, driven by strong contributions from our 31 noncomparable stores, partially offset by 1.8% decrease in our comparable stores.

  • As Brian mentioned, our comp sales results came in below expectations as last year's VR launch proved difficult to match, and our value promotions were not as effective as we had anticipated.

  • In addition, weather had an unfavorable impact of approximately 80 basis points on comps and competitive intrusion and cannibalization remains just headwinds during the quarter.

  • With that overall sales by category, Amusements and Other grew 9.4% and F&B grew 5.9%.

  • Amusement and Other represented 60% of total revenues during the quarter, an increase of 80 basis points in mix from the prior year period.

  • Breaking down comp sales, our walk-in sales were down 2%, our special events were up slightly.

  • In terms of category comp sales, Amusements and Other was down 0.8% while F&B was down 3.2%.

  • Within F&B, food was down 3.8% and the bar business was down 1.6%.

  • Total cost of sales was $59.6 million in the quarter and improved 10 basis points as a percent of sales.

  • This was due to an improvement in amusement margins, and a higher mix in amusement revenue, partially offset by lower F&B margins.

  • Weighted average cost as a percent of sales was 30 basis points unfavorable compared to last year primarily driven by the impact of our own limited wings promotion, higher avocado prices and costs related to our shift to fresh juices within our bar offerings.

  • This decline was partially offset by the positive impact of 1.7% in food pricing and 1.9% and beverage pricing.

  • Cost of amusement and other as a percent of sales was 40 basis points favorable compared to last year.

  • Amusement margins benefited from our pricing initiatives and the continued shift towards virtual reality and other simulation games, partially offset by higher costs associated with a RFID Power Card.

  • Operating payroll and benefits expense was 23.5% of sales or 40 basis points higher year-over-year due to the unfavorable impact of nearly 5% wage inflation, deleverage on comp store sales and the impact of noncomp stores.

  • This was partially offset by the rollover of higher labor cost last year associated with the VR launch.

  • Other store operating expenses were up 60 basis points year-over-year, largely driven by higher occupancy expenses primarily at noncomp stores, partially offset by leverage on our marketing costs.

  • G&A expenses of $16 million was up 8% from the prior year, reflecting increases to support a growing store base and higher technology and stock-based compensation expense.

  • As a percent of sales, G&A was flat.

  • EBITDA increased 5.3% to $79 million and was 23.9% of sales, reflecting a reduction of 60 basis points versus the prior year.

  • Adjusted EBITDA of $86 million was up 4.4%.

  • Our diluted EPS of $0.90 was up 7% versus the prior year.

  • And shifting to the balance sheet.

  • We had approximately $568 million of outstanding debt the quarter end, resulting in leverage of approximately to 2x EBITDA, up from 1.6x at the end of Q1 and 1.4x at the end of last year.

  • The increase was mainly due to the additional share repurchases during the quarter, and we feel comfortable with our leverage ratio at these levels.

  • As Brian mentioned, we are driving value by returning excess capital to shareholders, and we have been quite active on that front.

  • During the second quarter, our Board increased the share repurchase authorization by another $200 million to a total of $800 million.

  • We repurchased approximately 3.4 million shares in the second quarter for $137 million and had approximately $270 million remaining under the existing authorization at the end of the quarter.

  • We also paid our fourth quarterly cash dividend of $0.15 per share during the period.

  • Turning now to guidance.

  • Based on recent trends, we are revising our fiscal year 2019 guidance as follows: Total revenues are expected to be in the range of $1.338 billion to $1.359 billion versus prior guidance of $1.365 billion to $1.39 billion, reflecting growth of 6% to 7% versus the prior year.

  • Based on July and August comp trends, which were down approximately 4.5%, and our outlook for the balance of the year, we expect full year comp to be in the range of negative 3.5% to negative 2%.

  • This compares to previous guidance of negative 1.5% to positive 0.5%.

  • We are projecting net income to be in the range of $91 million to $100 million which are prior guidance of $103 million to $113 million.

  • Values just based on an effective tax rate of 22% to 22.5%, which is unchanged.

  • Finally, EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $272 million to $282 million.

  • Excluding onetime charges, we expect EBITDA to be in the range of $274 million to $284 million.

  • This compares to prior guidance of $283 million to $295 million.

  • In terms of quarterly phasing, Q3 includes an estimated $2 million in onetime charges related to our cost-saving initiatives as well as increased marketing to promote our Wow Walls and mobile app initiatives.

  • Also keep in mind that in Q3 last year, we recognized $2.2 million in business interruption insurance recoveries that had a favorable impact on EBITDA.

  • Thank you for your interest in Dave & Buster's.

  • Now I will turn the call back over to Brian.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Scott.

  • Our decision to reset guidance was not taken lightly.

  • And it was taken in contrast of what we've seen in the marketplace since our last earnings call and the recent comp trends Scott mentioned.

  • We have many reasons to be encouraged for the back half of the year, but at the same time, we are cognizant of recent volatility and potential risk.

  • As such, the midpoint of our revised guidance assumes no near-term improvement from current trends, and the upper end of our guidance assumes modest impact of initiatives starting in Q4.

  • I'd like to close by thanking our team for their dedication and hard work as we focus on our 5 near-term priority, namely revitalizing existing stores, building deeper guest engagement, managing costs to fuel organic growth, investing in high-return opportunities and returning capital to shareholders.

  • As always, we appreciate our shareholders through your continued support and interests in Dave & Buster's.

  • Now we'd be happy to answer your questions during Q&A.

  • Lisa, please open the lines.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) We'll take our first question from Andy Barish with Jefferies.

  • Andrew Marc Barish - MD and Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Just wondering if you could give us a little bit more color on sort of a nonimpacted stores and maybe an update on the percentage of the system you think is impacted.

  • The question is, are you seeing deterioration kind of in the core that hadn't been impacted by competition, which is leading to some of the other changes that you discussed today?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, I'll answer that, this first question about impacted stores.

  • The base of stores impacted by either competition or cannibalization did grow in the quarter, Andy, from 40% in Q1 to 45% of our store base -- comp base in Q2.

  • So we did see an acceleration of impacted stores.

  • But that's not the only factor here in the second quarter.

  • We mentioned on the call the rollover of VR was a significant factor for us, but lapping of that platform launch last year with Jurassic World, we underestimated the impact on traffic in our view.

  • And weather was not particularly great for us in the quarter.

  • We estimated about 80 bps of pressure in the quarter.

  • And we mentioned that a little bit actually on the Q1 call as we started off in May.

  • We had some difficult weather around Memorial Day weekend and we had some weeks in July.

  • So there are a number of factors, but definitely the competitive landscape is something that continues to accelerate in our view.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair.

  • Sharon Zackfia - Partner & Group Head of Consumer

  • I guess I'd be interested in hearing more about the Wow Walls and if you could quantify any kind of lift you saw there in Dallas, whether it related to traffic or food and beverage attached.

  • And maybe compare or contrast that initiative versus prior remodeling initiatives you did around D&B Sports and so on.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, we're very excited about the Wow Walls.

  • We, as you know, began that test in late 2018 in our Dallas store.

  • A 50-foot LED screen really reenergizes, brings a whole new energy to that space.

  • It's a very contemporary look.

  • It's latest and greatest technology LED panels, high resolution.

  • So we're combining that Wow Wall kind of technology with some improvements in furniture, flooring and other elements to really revitalize the dining experience.

  • And our view is that is one -- a great path towards F&B -- further F&B penetration, drive people into that space that it is today highly underutilized, our dining rooms today.

  • It brings a whole new experience.

  • And we have seen outsized performance.

  • I really want to get into the specifics of Dallas here, but it is one of our top-performing stores right in the top couple of stores in terms of performance in our system, and F&B, in particular, is performing very well.

  • So we like the look and we like what it does to the energy of our brand and we like what we see with this investment.

  • Sharon Zackfia - Partner & Group Head of Consumer

  • And can I just ask a follow-up?

  • I mean is it fair to think that those comps are positive in Dallas?

  • And then when you complete a Wow Wall, I mean is there a big initial lift?

  • Or is it something that builds?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, they are definitely positive.

  • It's one of our top 2 to 3 performing stores in the system.

  • So it is a highly positive store in our system.

  • And we did this -- we made this improvement in -- I think it was December of '18.

  • And initially, we really didn't advertise that.

  • We also did build over time building awareness.

  • So it did take a little time to be noticed for what we had invested there, but it's impressive.

  • And the difference here is, we are going to invest in our third quarter in digital media to drive awareness of this offering.

  • So we will be investing to build that awareness.

  • But I think it does take time.

  • As I mentioned, our frequency is fairly low as a brand, less than 2x.

  • So I think it does build over time, but we feel very confident in what this is going to do and add to the brand experience.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Joshua Long with Piper Jaffray.

  • Joshua C. Long - Assistant VP & Research Analyst

  • I wanted to circle back to the VR.

  • You said -- you mentioned a couple of times the difficulty in lapping last year's rollout.

  • So I'm curious how you're thinking about VR.

  • Is it a function of awareness?

  • Or if it's content?

  • Or what you're learning about how the consumer is engaging with that VR platform?

  • And then also I want to see if you might be able to provide an update in terms of pricing.

  • I know we had talked about some optionality in terms of higher pricing into our bundling offers with the VR.

  • And any sort of latest updates in terms of what you learned there.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Josh, for the question.

  • Well, clearly, we learned a few things as we lap that introduction of a platform in many ways.

  • We introduced the roller coaster last year with both platform and a very popular title in Jurassic World.

  • And that proved to be difficult to match and roll over.

  • The trial -- the per capita lift that we saw with that launch was impressive and the rollover was difficult.

  • We'll begin to move away from some of that outside performance as we get further away from the summer, but we still have great aspirations for that platform.

  • It is a platform that allows us to introduce new content, proprietary content and movies, so to speak, new experiences, and we're excited about the launch of Terminator, which is an IP that we secured.

  • It's going to launch in and around the time of the launch of the movie in November.

  • We really like what this game is going to deliver.

  • And as you asked, the notion of bundling is something that we expect to pivot into as we head into this launch of Terminator.

  • We have built at this point 5 really great experiences.

  • And our media campaign, as we launch Terminator, is going to not only launch and feature Terminator, but we are going to tie in a breadth of experiences that we've built in this library.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Jeff Farmer with Gordon Haskett.

  • Jeffrey Daniel Farmer - MD and Senior Analyst of Restaurants

  • I appreciate the comments on lapping the VR launch, but can you provide a little bit more color on the daypart, weekpart trends, any type of customer demographic factors that might also be weighing on sales for you guys?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • It's similar, Jeff, to what we have seen over the last more than 4 quarters.

  • Our strongest daypart was earlier in the launch daypart over the course of the quarter, and we continue to have our toughest daypart in late night.

  • Jeffrey Daniel Farmer - MD and Senior Analyst of Restaurants

  • Okay.

  • And then in terms of the incremental costs associated with the mobile app introduction, I'm just curious how much of those costs are already flowing through the income statement or if there are more to come.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, they are flowing through our capital guide as well as some incremental expense associated with our technology team.

  • So they are reflected, our efforts, as it relates to 20 and teen are reflected.

  • So you want to add, Scott?

  • Scott J. Bowman - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • One thing I'll add to that, most of that is flowing through.

  • I think what you'll see, as I mentioned in Q3, that from a marketing standpoint, we will kind of overindex on marketing in Q3 to promote the rollout of the mobile app as well as continued rollout of this Wow Walls.

  • Jeffrey Daniel Farmer - MD and Senior Analyst of Restaurants

  • All right.

  • Just one final follow-up here.

  • I think the amusement same-store sales number came up, but did you guys share the level of menu pricing or pricing that was captured within that amusement same-store sales number?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So amusement pricing was up about 2% for the quarter.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Jake Bartlett with SunTrust.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • My first question was about on the engagement with -- maybe I have written this down wrong, but Jackman Entertainment or Jackman.

  • And I think you referred to it as a strategic refresh.

  • So I'm just -- I'm trying to understand what that might mean for just your mix of games.

  • Or just maybe a little detail on what that's going to entail.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • So we're very excited about working with the Jackman team again.

  • We are really taking a comprehensive look at our portfolio, our offering as we think about our brand and revitalizing the brand.

  • We have a very, very successful partnership with Jackman and his team dating back between the years of early 2010 and 2014.

  • And they were very instrumental in the success that we had in revitalizing the brand and some of the outperformance that you -- that we had in the years of 2014 and beyond.

  • So we're really excited about working with them again.

  • They are a very bright team.

  • They're, in my view, better today than they were a decade ago, and we're really optimistic about some of the initiatives that are going to come out of that work.

  • This is not a thing that happens over overnight.

  • We worked with this group for 3 to 4 years and -- but it did result in new offerings, new approaches to our business, and that's what this process is about.

  • We are early on here, but really excited about this project.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • And then you mentioned with the Terminator VR release in November, I'd be interested to hear what else is on the docket, especially the kind of important holiday season.

  • And whether we should expect kind of similar cadence from last year with Dragonfrost being launched before the holidays.

  • And I also just had a larger question about content.

  • And I'm wondering whether the -- because the more exclusive focus on VR for the last -- in the 1.5 years since Halo, is that an attachment of some of the gains that you're more -- your core consumer appreciates?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • It's a great question, Jake.

  • We are focused on delivering a balance of titles.

  • Clearly, with the launch of the platform, the VR platform does offer us a great opportunity to introduce proprietary titles.

  • And we have leaned in on that obviously over -- since we introduced the platform mid last year.

  • So we're still looking at the cadence of how many.

  • We obviously did 3 this year, but we're evaluating that cadence.

  • But it is not at the detriment of introducing other highly popular titles.

  • We introduced, I think, Scott in his remarks mentioned some of the titles that we introduced over the course of this summer that are very popular interests that resonate well with guests that bring new experiences.

  • So we're not solely focused on VR's piece of the introduction of games.

  • But it does one that is able to command a pretty good spot on our TV campaign and in our media message.

  • So -- but it's not -- we're not abandoning all games here.

  • We are working to deliver multiple games.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • Got it, got it.

  • And then last question.

  • The unlimited wings and then now the $10 Power Card.

  • It's still different than last year with the unlimited gameplay.

  • Do you see much risk around that?

  • Or is that something, I believe, something you've done both before?

  • But I just want to take the gauge on any level of risk around kind of making that switch.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, another great question.

  • We continue to work on our promotional toolkit, really kind of test-and-learn approach here.

  • We did make the pivot here to a $10 card.

  • That's the way this offering started back when we initially introduced it.

  • We have optionality to think about it differently, but based on some of the per cap impacts related to the unlimited video, we are going to open this -- open the year with what we feel like is a very compelling offer on the heels on unlimited wing offer combined with a Power Card.

  • And we're excited to start the year with it.

  • As you recall last year, we didn't have this wing promotion -- unlimited wings promotion running in the first half of the football season or so.

  • So this year, we'll be starting with that in combination with this Wow Wall investment in a large nucleus of stores, and we think that's going to make for a powerful combination.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Then I actually have one other quick question.

  • I apologize for that, but it sounds like there's some variability around development in -- on the back half of '20 into 2021.

  • Your comments about the store size though, should we expect beyond just the success of 17K format stores?

  • Should we expect a greater mix of smaller stores?

  • Is that going to be a little more certain than maybe how many you do in the year?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, I'll take the first question or the last part of the question first around store format size.

  • We -- the 17K or the Corpus, for example, is really -- we're really excited about what that store is able to produce in terms of volumes, margins and returns.

  • So we have discussed the fact that we are beginning to enter into smaller DNA, smaller market sizes.

  • So we have always been looking for a flexible format and one that can deliver great returns.

  • So we like this format because as we think about some of the smaller markets where we may have thought about putting a 30K box in, and you can look at our model, our target out there for 30K, putting in a 19K that can do $8 million is going to deliver superior returns.

  • So we're excited about what that means as we get really more into our 2021 class and beyond, not able to impact too much in our 2020, which we've been under it for quite some time.

  • So we like the format.

  • We like what it shows and what it means for enhancing our margins as we finish out our addressable market and continue to march down that road.

  • As it relates to flexibility, we're heavily focused on revitalizing the stores.

  • We have a 130-plus store chain right now.

  • And we are highly focused on investing, reinvesting in that, starting with this Wow Wall.

  • So we are trying to maintain some flexibility.

  • And then when I say that, I'm really talking about our late 2020 openings and into 2021 to give us flexibility in terms of the pace as we look at that revitalization effort and what that means in terms of demand from the team.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) We'll take our next question from Jon Tower with Wells Fargo.

  • Jon Michael Tower - Senior Analyst

  • Awesome.

  • And I appreciate all the color around the near-term initiatives and particularly around the unit growth side.

  • But I was hoping to focus a little bit on the sales drivers in the existing store base.

  • Two things and they're kind of related.

  • First on the Wow Walls.

  • Can you discuss with you kind of envision for these walls over time?

  • I know it sounds like it will be trying to drive more traffic to the dining room area around sporting events, but can it also be used for e-gaming events in stores and other initiatives that you might be able to do?

  • And then separately, but somewhat related, a larger bar and grill competitor that's focused on the sports viewing space announced the -- an initiative into sports betting during -- that was actually on Friday.

  • So I'm curious given the fact that you're pre-engaging with the Jackman team, are you considering that?

  • Would you even put that on the table as an option in the future if the relationship or the consultancy with Jackman kind of point you in that direction?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Jon.

  • As it relates first to the Wow Walls and really the sports betting question, they kind of go in some ways a little hand-in-hand it.

  • Our view is that our dining rooms based on the square foot that we've allocated to the spaces and the utilization rate that we get today that it speaks to a need to revitalize the area.

  • So the Wow Wall is our answer to that.

  • We are looking to bring a whole new energy to the space.

  • These are very, very large screens.

  • We have an ability -- capital allocation ability to scale this.

  • It's going to be combined with improving some of, as I mentioned, some of the flooring that -- and some of the furniture to create, really, a new experience.

  • Bring energy to an area that lacks that today.

  • So we're excited about what that means and how we might, as you said, leverage that and use that in other ways than just sports.

  • We have been working and testing a number of things around e-sports, did a few events in the month of May and June with a partner.

  • So we think as we improve this offering, it will bode well for how we might be able to leverage that, both in our e-sports leanings as well as what it may mean in terms of our position with partners in the sports betting arena.

  • So we're open-minded to that.

  • We're open-minded at the partnerships.

  • We're aware of the wild announcements here, and we think that could represent an attractive opportunity down the road.

  • Right now, though, we're focused on the 5 priorities I mentioned today.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Andrew Strelzik with BMO Capital Markets.

  • Andrew Strelzik - Restaurants Analyst

  • My first question.

  • As you kind of reflect on some of the missteps on the food side, some of the -- whether it's promotional constructs or value that may haven't resonated as much as you would expect it.

  • What have you learned from that?

  • And how are you kind of changing your approach going forward?

  • And more broadly, what is your work, your kind of consumer insights suggest drives the F&B decision for your guest?

  • What I'm -- I guess what I'm trying to get at is longer term beyond the Wow Walls kind of what structurally changes the performance of the F&B business longer term?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • That's a great question.

  • Right now, I mentioned a statistic in my prepared remarks that we are attaching -- or penetrated about 15 -- 50% of our guest providing a food and beverage item in our store.

  • So it does -- this does represent a great opportunity for us.

  • We have a lot of square foot dedicated to this area.

  • In my view, it could be utilized better.

  • I -- we're committed to improving our F&B comps here.

  • And that does mean to us continuing to create a fresh and new menu.

  • We've talked about our simplification efforts, and so we're going to continue to look at that and further refine our menu.

  • We've introduced a number of LTOs to create a new experience.

  • And our guest stat scores have improved, both from food quality perspective as well as speed of service.

  • The awareness challenge still exists.

  • So in our view, one of our biggest near-term opportunities right now is to drive guests in the door and drive F&B penetration by having an area that is immersive.

  • And that is why we are, right now, heavily focused on the Wow -- the physical plant nature of our dining rooms by bringing in an experiential element.

  • We're really pleased with what we've seen in the Dallas lift.

  • This doesn't mean we're not going to continue to look at our F&B offering over time.

  • We certainly will.

  • But we believe investing in the dining room physical plant right now as we continue to work our menu is the biggest near-term opportunity we have.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Steve Anderson with Maxim Group.

  • Stephen Anderson - Senior VP & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • And you evaluate your recent results, it's certainly some of the press talking about the increase -- like the consumers crossing a bit less confident.

  • From a higher level, what you -- what's your read on the guests right now versus what your reading was maybe 3 or 6 months ago?

  • Scott J. Bowman - Senior VP & CFO

  • You're breaking up, Steve.

  • You were asking about the consumer?

  • Is that the question?

  • Stephen Anderson - Senior VP & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Whether you sense that the consumer has maybe a little bit less confidence or -- than what you've seen maybe in the last 3 to 6 months.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, I think the consumers overall are still very healthy.

  • I know there's been some movement around with some of the tariffs, the noise and some of that stuff, but we still feel like we have a very healthy consumer.

  • Unemployment is still very low.

  • And we have a lot of confidence in our ability to reach more of them through the things that we're doing and drive more frequency at the same time.

  • So...

  • Scott J. Bowman - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • And I'll just add on to that.

  • I think overall the consumers are in a pretty good shape from an economic standpoint.

  • I think some of these uncertainties can wait from time to time, but I think the outlook is fairly good, especially with the unemployment picture, some wage growth.

  • I think we're doing pretty well.

  • There are some headwinds on the expense side, but I think the uncertainty and the environment will kind of ebb and flow.

  • But we feel like the economics also of the customer is really good right now.

  • Arvind Bhatia - Director of IR

  • As well income.

  • Scott J. Bowman - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Joshua Long with Piper Jaffray.

  • Joshua C. Long - Assistant VP & Research Analyst

  • Right.

  • I just wanted to follow up, just as a clarification.

  • You mentioned a couple of times about the, I guess, the optionality in your real estate pipeline.

  • And then I think later, as a response to someone's question, you said that, that doesn't, in terms of say the 17,000-square-foot stores, there's really not an opportunity to layer more of those in earlier.

  • That's really kind of a 2020 or 2021 opportunity.

  • Is that the right way to think about it, Brian?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • We actually have a couple of units that were in our pipeline in 2020 in the 19K format.

  • So we have a couple in our -- in that 2020 class that were already planned.

  • The pivoting that we see potential for really is a -- for 2021, there are a couple of those that we are evaluating right now in terms of what's the proper size is.

  • And then obviously, as we begin to underwrite into 2022, this will be a key part of our decision-making as we, again, optimize the size of the store to our market sales potential because we just really like what we see in Corpus and its ability to generate some really big numbers with a very efficient box, much smaller back of the house.

  • So it's kind of where we stand on that.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Brian Vaccaro with Raymond James.

  • Brian M. Vaccaro - VP

  • I just wanted to circle back on the recent comp trend, and I think you said July and August down 4.5%.

  • And just trying to get a better understanding of what you think might be driving that incremental weakness.

  • Is there anything, as you look beneath the surface, anything to add amusement versus F&B segment comps, day of the week, maybe geographic or mall versus nonmall that might help explain some of the incremental softness?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, Brian, July and August were -- both of them were down in the mid-4% range.

  • We -- the comments that I made about difficulties in Q2, which relates to the VR rollover, continued into August.

  • So that is definitely a part of it.

  • And weather played a part as well.

  • We saw weakness up the Mid-Atlantic and Eastern Seaboard, and the competition continues to grow.

  • I mentioned that we're expecting right now 80 units this year on the names that we're tracking.

  • That's up from 60.

  • Or maybe I didn't mention this.

  • That's up from 60 last year.

  • So a lot of the headwind is continuing to grow.

  • I said we're optimistic about what we're doing in our pipeline to work to offset that, and that's related to our efforts and heavy focus on revitalizing the existing stores and working on building better destination, which is a big opportunity for the brand right now.

  • Operator

  • And this does conclude the question-and-answer session.

  • I would like to turn the call back over to Brian Jenkins for any additional or closing remarks.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, thank you for your time this afternoon.

  • We look forward to reviewing our third quarter results with you in December.

  • Scott J. Bowman - Senior VP & CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • And that does conclude today's presentation.

  • Thank you for your participation.

  • You may now disconnect.