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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, everyone.

  • Welcome to the Dave & Buster's Entertainment, Inc.

  • Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Results Conference Call.

  • Today's call is being hosted by Brian Jenkins, Chief Executive Officer.

  • I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning later today.

  • Now I'd like to turn the conference over to Arvind Bhatia, Senior Director of Investor Relations, for opening remarks.

  • Arvind Bhatia - Director of IR

  • Thank you, James, and thank you all for joining us.

  • On the call today are Brian Jenkins, Chief Executive Officer; and Joe DeProspero, Interim Chief Financial Officer.

  • After comments from Mr. Jenkins and Mr. DeProspero, we will be happy to take your questions.

  • This call is being recorded on behalf of Dave & Buster's Entertainment, Inc.

  • and is copyrighted.

  • Before we begin our discussion of the company's results, I'd like to call your attention to the fact that in our remarks and our responses to your questions, certain items may be discussed which are not based entirely on historical facts.

  • Any such items should be considered forward-looking statements and relating to future events within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

  • All such forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ from those anticipated.

  • Information on the various risk factors and uncertainties has been published in our filings with the SEC, which are available on our website at www.daveandbusters.com under the Investor Relations section.

  • In addition, our remarks today will include references to EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA and store operating income before depreciation and amortization, which are financial measures that are not defined under generally accepted accounting principles.

  • Investors should review the reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP results contained in our earnings announcement released this afternoon, which is also available on our website.

  • Now I will turn the call over to Brian.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Arvind.

  • Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our call today.

  • While 2018 marked a year of meaningful progress on our strategic priorities, we delivered sequential improvement and comp sales throughout the year and drove strong new store performance, leading to our eighth consecutive year of record sales and EBITDA.

  • We also returned significant value to our shareholders in 2018 through nearly $150 million in share repurchases and by instituting a quarterly cash dividend.

  • And today, we also announced that our board has authorized to expand our share repurchase program by an additional $200 million.

  • With respect to the fourth quarter, I'm pleased with our performance, including the return to positive comp sales.

  • Comparable store sales increased 2.9%, which was ahead of the casual dining benchmark by 70 basis points.

  • We believe an increased focus on value, a favorable holiday calendar, better weather and the ongoing improvement in our core offering were the key drivers of this growth.

  • On a comparable week basis, we grew overall revenue by nearly 16% and EBITDA by approximately 6% during the quarter.

  • We continue to drive 4 strategic priorities to grow our brand.

  • First, we remain focused on evolving our offering.

  • In amusements, we are providing our guests with the most compelling games in the industry.

  • We continue to have access to the best of what the industry has to offer, often on a limited-time, exclusive basis.

  • This access is due to our size, our scale and our ability to promote games on national TV.

  • In addition, our amusements team is driving the creation of new proprietary games, a key differentiator for us as evidenced by the successful launch of our virtual reality platform in 2018.

  • Our ability to efficiently execute such a large-scale national rollout is unmatched in the industry.

  • Looking at Q4, our new release, Dragonfrost VR, was an excellent addition to our VR offering and has performed well for us.

  • At the same time, Jurassic World VR Expedition, Halo and Connect 4 Hoops also remained strong.

  • Our Q1 2019 slate includes several new proprietary titles available only at D&B.

  • In mid-February, ahead of the release of the Captain Marvel movie, we launched Marvel Contest of Champions featuring highly popular characters from the Marvel Universe.

  • This title includes collectible cards designed really to foster repeat play.

  • And then just last week, we introduced Star Trek: Dark Remnant, our third VR title, further strengthening our library of VR attractions.

  • Finally, we're excited to announce today our fourth VR title, a game based on the Men in Black film series.

  • We plan to introduce the title in Q2 around the June release of the Men in Black: International movie.

  • This is the next movie in this popular franchise.

  • And based on the strength of our VR offering, in early 2019, we implemented a price increase on our VR games in just over half of our stores.

  • Turning now to Food and Beverage.

  • You may recall the underpinnings of our F&B evolution include a focus on simplification, quality and accessibility.

  • Our simplification efforts allowed us to reduce the size of our February menu by another 15% on top of 20% reduction implemented a year ago.

  • Our menu is now appropriately streamlined and still offers a great variety with approximately 40 food items and over 20 different handcrafted cocktails.

  • As for quality, we're not only focused on sourcing better raw ingredients but also on improving techniques that create craveable flavors combined with excellent presentation.

  • This is the foundation of our new key mantra, Crafting Craveability.

  • To help bring that to life, we rolled out our premium choice steaks in February in conjunction with the launch of our new menu.

  • This rollout follows last year's burger and chicken upgrade.

  • We have recrafted or rebranded some of our all-time favorites, such as the new Super Stack Burger, replacing Dave's Double Cheeseburger; and Tuscan chicken alfredo, replacing our parmesan chicken alfredo.

  • We also introduced healthier offerings, such as an on-trend Simply Grilled chicken with zoodles, zucchini-based noodles that guests can substitute in pastas.

  • For alcoholic beverages we added fresh juices and purees system-wide to further enhance flavor.

  • All told, we've replaced or recrafted about 3/4 of our menu over the past year, and we will continue to innovate and evolve with the changing taste of our guests.

  • At the same time, we recognize that games are the primary driver of guest visitation and expect it will take some time to build awareness for our new, improved offering and enhance the F&B attachment rate.

  • One of the ways we are increasing awareness is through improved messaging and quality callouts on our menu.

  • And over time, we will look to feature food more prominently in our marketing campaigns.

  • To improve accessibility, we recently launched a quick casual test in our Dallas store, we talked about that on the last call, really to gauge the potential demand for a more convenient and accessible food option.

  • The offering has been well received by those who have experienced it.

  • Initial demand has not been as strong as we anticipated, and we are working to improve in-store awareness and utilization and remain optimistic about this opportunity.

  • Our second strategic priority is to enhance our guest experience by improving service and reducing friction.

  • We are putting greater emphasis on providing guest service that is friendly, available and memorable.

  • To reduce friction, we are embracing new technologies.

  • We kicked off 2019 with the national rollout of our new RFID TAP & PLAY Power Cards, which really enables our guests to experience an easier, faster and more accurate game activation.

  • Our new cards are priced a little higher than our older cards but also include more value through additional game play chips.

  • In our back office, we have completed the system-wide rollout of our new labor management system.

  • And as we climb the learning curve, we expect to improve our scheduling efficiency with a primary goal of enhancing guest service.

  • In the back half of 2019, we look forward to launching our new and improved mobile app.

  • The new app is really being designed to offer greater functionality to our guests and ultimately drive better guest connection and engagement with our brand.

  • Our third strategic priority is to effectively communicate our offering and value.

  • During the first half of the quarter, we focused on our value message through the unlimited wings, unlimited video game promotion on game days, an offer that clearly resonated with our guests.

  • Later in the quarter, we highlighted the release of Dragonfrost, our new game release for the quarter.

  • And finally, towards the end of the quarter, we introduced unlimited wing/game promotion really focused on building traffic on Thursdays.

  • Now beyond honing our promotions, we are also evolving our media mix and increasing our digital spend with more emphasis on programmatic, social media, search engine marketing and optimization.

  • We are funding our digital media investment primarily by shifting dollars away from our national cable TV but also through some incremental spending.

  • Just to be clear here, this shift to digital is gradual for us, and national cable TV continues to represent the margin -- the majority of our media allocation.

  • Finally, I'll highlight our fourth and biggest long-term driver of shareholder value, that is to expand our brand geographically.

  • With 125 stores, we are a clear leader in the combined entertainment and value space.

  • We remain confident in our long-term target of 231 to 251 stores, about 2x our current size.

  • This concept is predicated on our track record of delivering excellent new store returns.

  • Even in the face of heightened competition, our 2017 class of stores generated year 1 cash on cash returns of over 60%, really one of the best in recent history.

  • And we plan to continue to grow our store base at a pace of 10% or more annually and are confident in our ability to capitalize on the large opportunity in front of us.

  • During the fourth quarter, we opened 3 new stores.

  • The first store was in Milford, Connecticut, an existing market for us.

  • In addition, we opened a store in Birmingham, Alabama; and a store in Corpus Christi, Texas, both new markets for our brand.

  • The Corpus Christi store location is our second 17,000-square-foot location.

  • While still early on here, we are very pleased with the performance of the 17,000 and are excited about our ability to access smaller DMAs, smaller markets with this format.

  • For the full year, we added 15 new stores, representing 14% unit growth, a new high watermark for new store openings, a great accomplishment for our team.

  • During fiscal 2019, we plan to open 15 to 16 new stores, representing 12% unit growth, net of a store closing.

  • Our 2019 new store openings will skew large-format stores and new markets for our brand, really similar to last year, although we will be going to some smaller DMAs this year.

  • We've opened 5 new stores in Q1 so far, one in Louisville, Kentucky; North Hills, Pennsylvania, a northern suburb of Pittsburgh; one in Thousand Oaks, California; a store in Daytona Beach, Florida; and most recently, Fairfax, Virginia.

  • We plan to open 2 more stores this quarter, one in Ft.

  • Myers, Florida; and one in Sevierville, Tennessee, for a total of 7 new stores in the quarter with fully executed commitments now of 22 new sites, including 9 stores under construction.

  • Our confidence and our ability to execute our store expansion strategy remains high.

  • With that, I'll turn it over to Joe to discuss our financial performance and 2019 guidance.

  • Joe?

  • Joseph Benjamin DeProspero - VP of Finance & Interim CFO

  • Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone.

  • Before I discuss our Q4 financial results, let me once again remind you that 2017 was a 53-week year.

  • As a result, our fiscal year 2018 calendar shifted by 1 week and had 1 less week.

  • In Q4 this year, the unfavorable impact of 1 less week was $18.3 million on revenue, $2.5 million on EBITDA and $3.3 million on adjusted EBITDA, but it had a 60 basis point favorable impact on EBITDA margins.

  • Also, to provide a more meaningful picture of our performance, I'll be quoting our comp sales on a comparable week basis, adjusting for the calendar shift.

  • Turning now to some of the highlights from the fourth quarter.

  • Total revenues increased 8.8% to $331.8 million versus $304.9 million reported in Q4 of last year.

  • On a comparable 13-week basis, revenue was up 15.7%.

  • This increase in revenue was driven by strong contribution from our 35 noncomparable stores, which represented 29% of our store base during the quarter and a 2.9% increase in comparable store sales.

  • Noncomp store sales increased to $91.9 million, up from $53.4 million in the prior year on a comparable 13-week basis.

  • Revenues from our 86 comparable stores increased to $243.3 million, up from $236.4 million in the prior year on a comparable 13-week basis.

  • Looking at overall reported sales by category, we grew Amusement and Other sales by 10.7% and Food and Beverage sales by 6.5%.

  • During the quarter, Amusement and Other represented 55.5% of total revenues, a 100 basis points increase in mix from the prior year period, continuing a long-term trend.

  • Breaking down comp sales on a comparable week basis, our walk-in sales were up 3.7% while our special event sales were down 1.4%.

  • In terms of category comp sales, amusements was up 4.4% and F&B was up 1.1%.

  • Within F&B, food and bar business were up 1.3% and 0.9% respectively.

  • The gap between amusements and F&B narrowed in the fourth quarter relative to the trend in Q3.

  • The increase in F&B costs and reduced gap with amusements was driven in part by the favorable impact of the All You Can Eat Wings promotion, partially offset by the unfavorable impact of a slight decline in special events, which has a higher mix of F&B.

  • The calendar shift resulting from Christmas and New Year's moving from the weekend last year to a weekday this year was a positive for us.

  • Also, the impact of weather was positive for the full quarter as favorable weather in November, December was partially offset by the unfavorable impact of the polar vortex in late January.

  • On the other hand, the combination of competitive intrusion and cannibalization continued to be a greater headwind compared to the same period last year, but sequentially, the impact was flat.

  • Total cost of sales was $58.8 million in the quarter and as a percentage of sales was 20 basis points better versus the same period last year, reflecting improvement in F&B margins, partially offset by lower amusement margins.

  • Food and Beverage cost as a percentage of Food and Beverage sales was 30 basis points favorable compared to last year as the impact of 2% in food pricing and 1.1% in bev pricing was partially offset by the unfavorable impact of slight commodity inflation, the impact of the All You Can Eat Wings promotion and investment in our new burger and chicken.

  • Cost of Amusement and Other as a percentage of Amusement and Other sales was 10 basis points worse compared to last year.

  • Amusement margins were favorably impacted by the ongoing shift toward simulation games, including our virtual reality games, but were offset by use tax and redemption items.

  • Our operating payroll and benefits cost as a percentage of sales was 23.8% or 110 basis points worse year-over-year due to higher incentive compensation expense, the unfavorable impact of nearly 5% wage inflation and incremental investment in labor related to virtual reality, higher medical insurance claims compared to last year and the impact of noncomp stores.

  • Other store operating expenses were up 160 basis points year-over-year, primarily driven by higher occupancy costs and increased claims expense for workers' comp and general liability, partially offset by leverage on our marketing expenses.

  • G&A expenses were $16.1 million, up from $14.4 million in the prior year, reflecting higher bonus expense, increased headcount to support a growing store base, greater medical insurance claims and higher IP and legal expenses, partially offset by lower share-based compensation expense.

  • As a percentage of revenues, G&A expenses were 10 basis points unfavorable versus the prior year.

  • Preopening costs were $6 million versus $9.1 million in the fourth quarter 2017.

  • This decrease reflected fewer store openings in the quarter as well as the timing of future store openings compared to last year.

  • As a percentage of revenue, preopening costs were 1.8% or 120 basis points better compared to the prior year.

  • EBITDA was $72.1 million, up 1.9%; and EBITDA margins were 21.7%, down 150 basis points versus the prior year.

  • On a comparable week basis, EBITDA was up 5.6% year-over-year and EBITDA margins were down 210 basis points.

  • Adjusted EBITDA of $80.2 million was down 2.8% but on a comparable week basis was up 1.2%.

  • Net interest expense for the quarter increased to $3.7 million, up from $2.6 million in the prior year, driven by increases in the underlying LIBOR rate and higher average debt levels resulting from our capital allocation initiatives, including share repurchases and the quarterly cash dividends.

  • Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 21.1% compared to 10.6% in the year ago period.

  • The year ago period included an $8 million nonrecurring, onetime favorable impact of revaluation of our deferred tax positions under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

  • We generated net income of $29.4 million or $0.75 per share on a diluted share base of 39.1 million compared to net income of $35.6 million or $0.85 per share on a diluted share base of 41.7 million in the fourth quarter of last year.

  • Net income for the fourth quarter of 2017, exclusive of the beneficial impact of certain tax adjustments related to tax reform and an additional week in the quarter, was $27.3 million or $0.66 per diluted share.

  • Shifting to the balance sheet.

  • At the end of the quarter, we had $394 million of outstanding debt, resulting in leverage of approximately 1.4x EBITDA.

  • In Q1 2019, we implemented an interest rate swap, which essentially fixes our interest rate on $350 million of debt until August 2022 at LIBOR of 2 1/2% plus an applicable margin.

  • Given our current leverage ratio, the fixed rate is approximately 3.7%.

  • During the quarter, we repurchased approximately 1.3 million shares of our common stock for $63 million.

  • The inception-to-date total as of March 26, 2019, is 7.2 million shares for $375 million.

  • We paid our second quarterly cash dividend of $0.15 per share during Q4.

  • Turning now to our outlook for fiscal year 2019.

  • Total revenues are expected to range from $1.37 billion to $1.4 billion, up 8% to 11%.

  • Comp store sales are expected to be flat to up to 1.5%.

  • From a development perspective, we are targeting 15 to 16 new stores this year.

  • In March, we closed our Duluth, Georgia store, which was at the end of its lease term.

  • Net of the Duluth store closing, we are planning on unit growth of approximately 12%, consistent with our target of 10% or more annual unit growth.

  • In terms of store opening cadence, we plan to open 10 new stores in the first half this year versus 11 new stores in the first half of last year.

  • We're projecting net income of $105 million to $117 million.

  • Net income is based on an effective tax rate of 22% to 22.5%.

  • Please note this guidance reflects new lease accounting standards, which we anticipate will have an immaterial impact on our net income.

  • We estimate a diluted share count of approximately 37 million.

  • We are projecting EBITDA of $285 million to $300 million for the fiscal year.

  • We are expecting margin compression, primarily resulting from continued wage pressure and a rising mix of new stores that, although have strong returns, are modeled to have lower AUVs and margins compared to our existing stores.

  • Net capital additions after tenant allowances and other landlord payments is projected to be between $190 million and $200 million and will support our strong new store pipeline.

  • Thank you for your interest in Dave & Buster's.

  • Now I will turn the call back over to Brian.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Joe.

  • I want to emphasize as an organization, we remain focused on 4 strategic priorities, which include evolving our offering, improving our guest experience, effectively communicating our offering and value and expanding our great brand.

  • Looking forward, we are poised to deliver yet another year of record revenue and EBITDA performance.

  • Our proven business model, strong team, robust real estate pipeline and financial flexibility are competitive advantages that position us well for the future.

  • We're excited about the proprietary games we're launching this year as well as our new menu that underscores our mantra of Crafting Craveability.

  • Our operating team is putting greater intensity and to delivering service that is even more friendly, available and memorable.

  • Our marketing team is focused on driving traffic by ensuring our message is resonating with guests and by selectively leaning in on value.

  • We remain the leader in a large growing market and are well positioned to capitalize on the unit growth opportunity ahead.

  • Finally, I want to take a minute to thank our entire D&B team for helping deliver another record year in 2018.

  • The team continues to work hard to strengthen our foundation and position our brand for a vibrant future.

  • I had the privilege, the opportunity to see many of our team members at our recent national general managers' conference in Dallas, and I couldn't be more delighted with the talent we have been able to attract and the energy and passion they have for this great brand.

  • As always, we appreciate the continued support of our shareholders and your interest in Dave & Buster's.

  • James, please open the lines for Q&A.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And we'll take our first question today from Andy Barish with Jefferies.

  • Andrew Marc Barish - MD and Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Just maybe peeling a few layers on the same-store sales guide, why you're not expecting a little bit more when the comparisons are still relatively easy.

  • You're building the VR library.

  • And how much pricing did you take on VR in terms of -- is that material to 2019 comps?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, I think I'll back up just a minute, Andy.

  • First of all, we couldn't be more pleased with Q4 right now.

  • The return to positive comps after 5 quarters was a big success for us, surpassing casual dining benchmarks for the first time in quite some time.

  • So clearly, we focused on some things around value with our unlimited wings/video promotion.

  • That was helpful to us in Q4.

  • We estimate the wing promotion helped us in the neighborhood of 100 bps for the quarter.

  • I talked a little bit about the calendar shift, the holiday shift as well as weather in the quarter.

  • We estimate that to be about a 50-bp lift in our 2.9% performance this quarter.

  • And then the improvement in the offering, which you speak -- you talked a little bit about VR.

  • Obviously, that's an attraction we have this year that wasn't in place in 2017.

  • So first of all, we're excited to be in positive comp territory in Q4.

  • And as we look to 2019, we're guiding comps of flat to up 1.5%.

  • We think that is a strong pursuit for this brand in the face of the competitive environment we face today.

  • It's early in the year.

  • We're excited about the lineup we have, as you mentioned, of our VR games.

  • We announced -- we just launched Star Wars.

  • We have Men in Black coming.

  • We think it's going to be a broadly appealing IP for us.

  • We like our evolution in food.

  • We think some of that's going to take some time.

  • It's not the primary reason for the visit at Dave & Buster's.

  • And we're going to continue to lean in on value.

  • The unlimited wing combination with games and video is telling and we're going to pivot more towards digital.

  • All those things -- and we did take some products and -- on the game side and we haven't done that in some time.

  • We're doing all those things to drive positive comps, and we think we have the playbook to do that.

  • I think it's a prudent guide.

  • I'll give you a little color.

  • We don't typically do this but I'm just going to get it out of the way.

  • We -- Q1 is a very volatile quarter for this company in that spring break and Easter shifts are significant.

  • We -- in past lives, we've hesitated really to talk about performance in the quarter.

  • But I do want to share with you that through 7 weeks before we started to hit that Easter shift, we were up about 1%.

  • We view that as good news.

  • We are in positive land in a difficult environment.

  • There's a lot of runway and year left to go and we're pursuing positive comps being flat to up and we've -- that's what our team is waking up every day trying to drive in 2019.

  • Andrew Marc Barish - MD and Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • And then just quickly on the games.

  • I mean, was that -- amusements, was that pricing broader than just VR or just the VR price increase that you mentioned?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Really 2 aspects.

  • The VR thing is relatively small.

  • We did 2 things.

  • We took a price increase in, as I said, a subset of our stores, a little over half of our stores, not all incremental.

  • You do get an impact on demand for the product and utilization rate when you do that, so not all incremental, that price.

  • But we did take a price, as I said in my prepared remarks, on our Power Card.

  • We launched our new RFID Power Card, TAP & PLAY.

  • So you're able to just launch it like a -- if you go to a hotel room, definitely an easier, more accurate activation of the games.

  • We did take a price increase related to that on the card, so an activation fee price increase, that you will see as we move into next -- into 2019.

  • And that's -- we haven't done that in the past.

  • So that's new.

  • It will be additive to comps.

  • Operator

  • Next, we'll hear from Nicole Miller with Piper Jaffray.

  • Nicole Miller Regan - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • I want to ask about strategy point #2 on the guest experience.

  • And I would imagine technology and the app and things you were talking about, I believe you said fell into that.

  • What I'm curious about is what kind of data are you able to get from your customer through loyalty or the app or anywhere else for that matter?

  • And how are you transferring that into strategy?

  • And then just a separate, quick modeling question.

  • What's a good share count for 1Q, please?

  • I just don't know the progression of the share repurchase in 4Q.

  • So I want to make sure we get that right.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, I mean, clearly, we are focused on driving improved service.

  • Our service scores, we've been measuring service scores for a long time.

  • And we performed well, but our research back in 2017 suggests that we can be better and we know we can be better.

  • So our team is working on being more friendly, more available and delivering a more memorable experience when guests come into our stores.

  • We are, in general, a low frequent use and we need to drive frequency and drive repeat visitation.

  • So it was a big part of our GM conference to really energize the team, and they are working hard on trying to bring that to life every day in our stores.

  • In terms of technology, we are working on a mobile app that, in our view, will be a tool that will allow us to really, Nicole, create a guest account that we don't have in a large way today.

  • Our loyalty program does allow us to reach our guests and see some behaviors but it is not broad.

  • And to have -- where we actually have an actionable guest account with the folks that load that on their phones.

  • So this is an initiative by our team, our new CIO, JP Hurtado, who we brought from Royal Caribbean, who has much experience in guest-facing technologies.

  • And we're looking to launch the first version of that in the latter part of this year, in the second half this year.

  • And as I said before, I think this is a journey for our brand.

  • This is a place where we need to get better, and we're investing more money and technology in our capital guide that Joe mentioned this year than we have ever in my 12 years with this brand.

  • Arvind Bhatia - Director of IR

  • And Joe, the share count?

  • Joseph Benjamin DeProspero - VP of Finance & Interim CFO

  • Yes, share count is projected to be, I'll call it, 38 million and change, 38 million and a little.

  • Nicole Miller Regan - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • Helpful and very excited about that creation of that guest count data eventually.

  • Operator

  • Andrew Strelzik with BMO Capital Markets has our next question.

  • Andrew Strelzik - Restaurants Analyst

  • I have a question on the guidance relative to what you provided last quarter.

  • So it sounds like the revenue growth implied by the new numbers is a little bit above where you had previously guided but the EBITDA growth is maybe a touch below prior.

  • So I guess I'm just wondering what changed.

  • Is that more value orientation?

  • Is it the composition of the size units that you're thinking about, maybe the ad spend?

  • What's changed to lower the EBITDA growth relative to the revenue growth that's moved higher?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, first of all, Andrew, we, in my view, issued strong guidance today.

  • We're optimistic about our 2019 year.

  • We are focused on delivering 12% net unit growth.

  • Net of a store closing, we're looking for comps to be up 1.5% at the high end, flat at the low end.

  • And we believe we're well positioned to really set some new revenue and EBITDA highs for next year in a very competitive environment.

  • We are looking to continue to build stores that have great returns.

  • We mentioned when we issued that preliminary high-level guidance last time that we are entering DMAs and markets that are smaller.

  • And our mix of small units relative to our current legacy base is going to be higher going forward even though we're building stores that are -- skew large, as a percent of total there's many more smalls in the new store count this year than our legacy.

  • So that's going to put some downward pressure, as we have said, on AUVs and pressure on margin as it relates to occupancy.

  • We're definitely seeing labor headwinds.

  • We don't anticipate that's really going to subside.

  • And we're investing in this business.

  • We're playing the long ball here.

  • We're a leader in this space and we're going to work hard to stay there and we're going to be investing in some places, particularly around IT.

  • And in terms of is the guide better or worse, in my view, the high end of our guide is in and around a little above what we said.

  • EBITDA at the high end is about what we said.

  • If you pick the low end, yes, a little lower.

  • We're driving towards growth here.

  • This team is working very hard to continue to propel this brand forward.

  • Andrew Strelzik - Restaurants Analyst

  • I appreciate the comments.

  • I just have one quick follow-up on that.

  • With respect to the labor management tool that you've implemented, you mentioned -- it sounds like that's going to be primarily to enhance the guest experience rather than some sort of cost savings opportunity.

  • Can you just talk about maybe what the plans are to enhance the guest experience through that tool?

  • Is there -- is that part of the reinvestment maybe from a labor perspective?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Yes, we've had a long history of labor improvements in my decade-plus with the brand.

  • I mean, we have indicated, I think, with the labor pressure particularly on wage rates that -- for investors not to think about that continuing.

  • There are some real headwinds there, and we don't think it will correct in the right strategy long term to turn the needle down on labor.

  • So our view of the labor -- the new labor tool is to really try to match demand and peak labor needs and make sure we have the right number of people at the right time and we scale down at the appropriate time.

  • And we think the new tool is more nimble than our old one.

  • We've had a tool for a long time.

  • It actually helped us a lot back in 2010, I think, it was.

  • And this one is more nimble and I think we're -- there's a learning curve here.

  • We -- I think we completed the launch somewhere in Q4.

  • I can't remember the exact date, but that takes time to figure that out.

  • So I would be thinking about it more now delivering a better guest experience by matching labor with demand.

  • Operator

  • We'll now hear from Jake Bartlett with SunTrust.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • Brian, you opened up the box here -- the bag in terms of the kind of the current trend in the first quarter here.

  • So I wanted just to ask a couple of -- one question about that, and that is I think you said 1% comps for 7 weeks for the quarter.

  • How does weather affect you?

  • I know it's been affecting restaurants.

  • I would have actually thought that some of the rainy weather in California and Florida would have helped you.

  • But maybe if you could just help us understand that 1% and what were some of the factors in that.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Actually, we -- I don't want to dissect too much the first 7 weeks.

  • I've done enough.

  • I'm being really transparent here with you guys on where we're at during the first 7 weeks.

  • We don't really show any weather tailwinds in the first 7 weeks.

  • I'll say that, Andrew (sic) [Jake].

  • I will -- what I didn't say and I probably should have is Q1 is volatile.

  • Through 7 weeks, we think it's pretty comparable here.

  • We are in the Easter shift time right now where Easter and spring breaks are shifting out really to week 11 and 12 for us.

  • So we have big, big weeks to go, particularly in the Northeast.

  • And how this quarter ends up -- and our guide is for 0 to -- flat to up 1.5% is full year guide.

  • So I'm not trying to guide a quarter here, but how this quarter goes will depend a lot on how the weather flows really later in the quarter, which is in front of us.

  • We've got some big, big weeks with this big shift.

  • So...

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • That makes a lot of sense.

  • And could you just...

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • I'm sorry.

  • I'm sorry.

  • Did I say Andrew?

  • I'm sorry, Jake.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • That's all right.

  • That's all right.

  • That's fine.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • You can be Andrew if you like.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • I would be Andrew, yes.

  • And just in terms of kind of thinking about the attractions or the VR as you roll out throughout the year, would it be right to assume that the Dragonfrost -- I think it's been -- you mentioned it's been successful but it's not as a name that consumers recognize on television and maybe potentially less of a draw than something like Star Trek and Men in Black.

  • Is that a correct assumption?

  • Or did you find that Dragonfrost was -- kind of have a similar impact that Jurassic Park might have had earlier in the year?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, there's no doubt.

  • The launch of our VR platform that we scaled nationally, we're proud of that as a brand, national brand that scaled 120 units across this country.

  • With Jurassic World, that's a strong IP.

  • It's broad -- has broad appeal, it's an experiential title, a little less interactive game play, more experiential.

  • It was a great launch.

  • Dragonfrost, in our view, appeals really a little bit more towards the younger audience.

  • The game play is a little more -- is much more dynamic.

  • Star Trek is sort of a flip of that, Jake.

  • It flips back, in my view, towards a little bit of an older audience.

  • And Men in Black, we're going to come back with a -- I view, a very broad appeal with Men in Black.

  • So I think we're not -- we're developing a very good mix of offerings here for consumer groups.

  • And we've got a really good attraction list growing.

  • So Jurassic World is still the #1 game and I think it is because of the appeal.

  • So -- but we've got a good nucleus we're building right now, and we're going to lean into this platform.

  • It's one of the avenues that we have as a brand to introduce proprietary content, something that others don't.

  • The industry produces what they produce and -- but we can actually control our destiny a little more with this particular platform.

  • So we're excited about it and we're going to leverage it.

  • Jake Rowland Bartlett - Analyst

  • Great.

  • And then last question, real quick.

  • Would you describe your -- how you look for the pipeline of amusement content throughout '19?

  • How would you compare that to what you did in '18?

  • A lot of new things happened in '18, but do you feel like 2019, you're going to have more games more frequently or maybe more impactful games less frequently?

  • Or how would you kind of describe on a year-over-year basis?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • So as we've said before, our overall game strategy is looking for compelling game content.

  • We really want games that people can't have at home that are larger than life, that has pushed us towards bigger, better, more marquee titles.

  • We definitely want a nice mix of proprietary games or -- and exclusive launches when we can.

  • We, as I've said before, our VR platform, I think, gives us the best vehicle for introduction in proprietary platform.

  • So in terms of the 2019 game lineup, we've announced what we're going to announce right now, Marvel that we already launched.

  • We just released Star Trek and we announced Men in Black.

  • And we're continuing to work -- the team is continuing to work on securing other titles that really fit that strategy.

  • And I don't really have anything further I want to announce on the 2019 game lineup today.

  • Operator

  • Next, we'll hear from Brian Vaccaro with Raymond James.

  • Brian Michae Vaccaro - VP

  • I wanted to start with 2 quick clarifications if I could.

  • Back on the amusement pricing that you took on VR and the RFID card, what does that equate to in terms of effective year-on-year pricing within that segment?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Actually, it's a long year to go and we're measuring that right now.

  • But I would be thinking in the kind of mid-1% range, 1.5% or so on games from that right now.

  • And we'll see what happens with any impact, but right now, we're not thinking that we have a lot of impact related to Power Card in terms of what we've seen so far.

  • But it's a long year so -- but it should be -- we expect it to be additive and accretive to comp.

  • Brian Michae Vaccaro - VP

  • Okay, all right.

  • That's helpful.

  • And on the EBITDA guidance, Joe, I know you said lease accounting is immaterial to net income.

  • But was there any geography changes to the lease accounting that might have had an impact on EBITDA?

  • I just wanted to check on that.

  • Joseph Benjamin DeProspero - VP of Finance & Interim CFO

  • No material geography changes.

  • It results in an immaterial increase in some expense, but once again, that's immaterial.

  • Brian Michae Vaccaro - VP

  • Okay.

  • And then just on the topic of cannibalization and competition, can you comment on how you expect each dynamic to play out in 2019 maybe compared relative to what you saw in '18?

  • Joseph Benjamin DeProspero - VP of Finance & Interim CFO

  • Sure.

  • We think the combined impact of competitive intrusion and cannibalization will remain a headwind to us for the foreseeable future.

  • I will say in 2018, it was, I'll call it, incremental headwind relative to 2017.

  • Given what we see with some of the units of our competitors and we do know what our new store pipeline looks like, we think that, that impact in 2019 will be relatively flat to 2018.

  • We are an attractive space and generating strong returns.

  • We continue to attract some competitors, but once again, we expect the impact in 2019 to be similar for the full year 2018.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Just to add, that doesn't mean that's not a significant headwind for us.

  • We've talked about this -- started talking about this a couple of years ago, it's just that it has accelerated over the past couple of years.

  • I mean, it is a meaningful headwind.

  • Our stores that are not impacted by competitive entrants or ourselves are -- you know, perform very well.

  • It's a drag on our comps and it's something that we are working very hard to offset with our initiatives.

  • So it's a meaningful number.

  • Brian Michae Vaccaro - VP

  • All right.

  • I appreciate that color.

  • And last one from me, just thinking about that '19 guidance, what are you seeing or expecting in terms of the food cost inflation outlook, commodity inflation?

  • And did I hear correctly, marketing spend as a percent of sales might go up a little bit?

  • Or I think you said spending might be up a little bit on marketing in '19, Brian?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Yes, we're -- food inflation is up a little bit.

  • We haven't...

  • Joseph Benjamin DeProspero - VP of Finance & Interim CFO

  • Yes.

  • So first of all, food inflation for Q4 and for next year, we expect some moderate inflation.

  • But keep in mind, food cost for us is only about 8% of our sales.

  • So it's less important for -- it's less of a factor for us as it is for casual dining, but once again, relatively low inflation, as I'll call it, very -- low single digits in both Q4 and next year as well.

  • Arvind Bhatia - Director of IR

  • Marketing...

  • Joseph Benjamin DeProspero - VP of Finance & Interim CFO

  • Marketing inflation.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Yes, marketing.

  • I don't want to give the exact marketing number.

  • We expect at the high end of our range we would still leverage a little bit.

  • But yes, we will be increasing our marketing above kind of inflationary kind of pressures here partly due to some incremental spend in digital, partly just due to the environment in general and the marketing environment in terms of pricing, so a little bit of leverage at the high end.

  • Now we're in the low 3% of overall as a percent of sales right now.

  • And we're not really trying to reduce that here too much right now.

  • So we've got some investments we're going to make in the digital space and we've had some success there and we think that's a good pivot for our brand.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) We'll hear from Jeff Farmer with Gordon Haskett.

  • Jeffrey Daniel Farmer - MD & Senior Analyst of Restaurants

  • Just diving deeper into the Q4 numbers.

  • What did same-store sales look like both during and after that 6-week run of unlimited wings and games?

  • And I guess just looking forward, how aggressive can you be with running that type of promotion in the future?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, I pretty much gave you the pickup that we got -- that we estimate related to unlimited wings at 100 bps.

  • That promotion ran early in the quarter, Jeff.

  • So clearly, the first part of the quarter was strong.

  • I indicated actually on our year-end call and now confirmed again today that weather and the calendar was a net positive.

  • And that too was in and around, let's call it, the December holiday period.

  • So we were stronger in the front.

  • That's what that says.

  • The positive strength was in the front.

  • The polar vortex in January that hit around Martin Luther King, was a net negative for us.

  • We gave back a little there.

  • So that's a little -- you know, give you a little color on the cadence.

  • And as I said, before we get into the spring break, Easter shift here, we're pleased to be in positive comp territory at 1% to kick off this year as we shoot and move towards 0% to 1.5% for the full year.

  • So...

  • Jeffrey Daniel Farmer - MD & Senior Analyst of Restaurants

  • Okay.

  • That's helpful.

  • And then it sounds like unit productivity for that class of 2017 was greater than you had expected.

  • Assuming that's what I heard and heard that correctly, what's driving that strength?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, we had some stores in some pretty big DMAs with big potential, and it was a great, great lineup of stores for us, no doubt.

  • I -- our target -- our internal target is 35% year 1, which we think is a very, very strong target.

  • I wouldn't condition yourself to a 60-plus, we're -- we couldn't be more happy with that class, but we think we have a great pipeline and we're targeting 35%.

  • So...

  • Jeffrey Daniel Farmer - MD & Senior Analyst of Restaurants

  • Okay.

  • And then just last question related again to some of the new unit productivity, but as it relates to competitive encroachment, how has that impacted your site selection, your market selection strategy?

  • Have you pivoted in any way to help -- I guess, to help offset some of that unit productivity -- or those competitive encroachment headwinds?

  • Anything you can do on that front in terms of either what market you go to or where you open sites in a certain market?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, our view, we -- as I said, we're the leader in the space.

  • We are a traffic donor to our landlords.

  • When we come into a space, we are helpful.

  • So we continue to get the first call.

  • So our view is to continue to play offense.

  • If a site is on our total addressable market list, which we've mapped out and continue to update each year and it is on our list, we're going to seize the day.

  • And we want to be on offense as it relates to sites and not give it over to a competitor.

  • It doesn't mean we're going to prevent them from getting into a space and it's clear that they're coming -- they're opening in and around our stores every day.

  • But we, in our view, are getting the prime sites.

  • We get the first call.

  • And our view is that we're not going to slow down.

  • We're not going to dial back, slow down and let a competitor take a site that we want to open.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Jon Tower with Wells Fargo.

  • Jon Michael Tower - Senior Analyst

  • There we go.

  • Got to take it off mute.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • That was a good question, Jon.

  • Easiest one of the day.

  • Jon Michael Tower - Senior Analyst

  • There we go.

  • On the marketing side of the equation, just going back to your spend on television, can you just talk about the evolution of your TV marketing spend?

  • Your dollars have obviously grown over the past few years, if that percentage, that low percentage, 3% or so, has stayed in place.

  • So are you hitting the market or television airwaves with more effective GRPs than in the past or are you guys at similar levels?

  • And then thinking about the digital side, how should we think about your digital marketing presence?

  • Will it be more of a call to action on social media or some of these platforms through either some offers on food or on amusement?

  • And then how should we think about your digital presence with it integrating into your mobile app relaunch in the latter half of this year?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • That's a lot of questions.

  • Well, I did say pivot to digital.

  • We have consistently advertised on national cable TV, moved it up over the years.

  • So historically, the GRPs are pretty consistent, if anything we've added on a week or 2 here or there over time.

  • And we are pretty well covered in terms of media weeks as a brand today as we sit here today.

  • And my view is still that if we have a strong message, whether it be capital or games and/or value message, that can move the needle and drive traffic.

  • So we are not abandoning our TV, national cable TV.

  • What we are doing is, in a test and measure kind of environment, definitely leaning more into the digital environment.

  • And I'm not going to -- for competitive reason, I'm not giving you our mix, but we are pivoting a meaningful amount away from TV into digital.

  • But we want to make sure that it's paying back and we are -- our tendency is and what we've seen work tends to revolve around promotional messages more so than just content, and we've had probably the most success on social media work and programmatic over the TV top spot stuff as well.

  • So that's an evolving effort by our head of marketing and marketing team, and I think we learn more each day on what works and what doesn't here.

  • And that's how we're going to be measured in how we pivot and make sure we're investing in things that make sense for us.

  • Jon Michael Tower - Senior Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then just earlier, I think you had mentioned on the call -- and maybe I misheard this, that you're doing the unlimited wing promotion again right now.

  • Is that correct?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Yes, we're -- well, we're doing really 2 elements of the unlimited wing/video.

  • Obviously, it was impactful.

  • Our value message, one, is driven by the offering.

  • If we can change the numerator, have a better offering, better guest experience and deliver that piece of equation, we're definitely focused on that.

  • The wing thing -- the wing offer shows that price can make a difference as well and so -- and I think we need to do both things to drive people in and we were successful.

  • So -- with that promotion.

  • So what we are doing right now is using that promotion to drive and try to build up our Thursday day, that day part.

  • We have half-price games on Wednesday.

  • That's the biggest day -- weekday that we have.

  • So we are looking to see if we can build that day of week with this combined offer.

  • And we are running that offer right now around March Madness on Mondays and Thursdays -- I'm sorry, Sundays.

  • And it'll be -- we have 2 more days here coming up.

  • Operator

  • We'll now hear from Stephen Anderson with Maxim Group.

  • Stephen Anderson - Senior VP & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Just maybe a quick question.

  • I know in the past, you talked about a potential for international expansion then, I just want to ask about the progress on the location in the Middle East?

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, candidly, I'd hoped to have some news to report.

  • Look, we still view international as a good, long-term opportunity for our brand.

  • We think it will translate very well.

  • We are in discussions with a number of partners.

  • We have a partner in the Middle East.

  • That's been going slower than we expected.

  • So we're excited about the opportunity.

  • Clearly, near term, we are much more focused on our domestic business right now.

  • We think it's a long-term opportunity.

  • It is going slower than we had hoped right now.

  • Operator

  • That will conclude today's question-and-answer session.

  • I'll now turn the conference over to Brian Jenkins for any additional or closing remarks.

  • Brian A. Jenkins - CEO & Director

  • Well, thank you for your time this afternoon.

  • We look forward to reviewing our first quarter results with you in June.

  • Guys, have a good night.

  • Operator

  • That will conclude today's conference call.

  • Thank you for your participation.

  • You may now disconnect.