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  • Operator

  • Good morning, and welcome to Peoples Bancorp Inc. Conference Call. My name is Chuck, and I'll be your conference facilitator. Today's call will cover a discussion of the results of operations for the quarterly period ended March 31, 2021. (Operator Instructions)

  • This call is also being recorded. If you object to the recording, please disconnect at this time. Please be advised that the commentary on this call will contain projections and other forward-looking statements regarding Peoples' future financial performance or future events. These statements are based on management's current expectations.

  • The statements in this call, which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements and involve a number of risks and uncertainties detailed in Peoples' Securities and Exchange Commission's filings. These include, but not are limited to, the completion and integration of planned acquisitions, including the pending merger with Premier Financial Bancorp Inc., and the acquisition of North Star Leasing company and any future acquisitions. which may be unsuccessful or may be difficult, time consuming, costly than expected and the risk of expansion into new markets.

  • Peoples' ability to obtain regulatory approvals of the proposed merger with Premier Financial Bancorp Inc. or Premier on the proposed terms and schedule and the adoption of the merger agreement by the shareholders of Peoples and Premier Financial Bancorp Inc. The ever-changing effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on economic and market conditions and on our customers, counterparties, employees and third-party service providers as well as the effects of various responses of governmental and non-governmental authorities to the COVID-19 pandemic as well as availability and effectiveness of vaccines.

  • Changes in the interest rate environment due to the economic conditions related to the COVID-19 pandemic and/or other factors and/or the fiscal and monetary policy measures undertaken in the implementation of related economic stimulus packages, which may adversely impact interest rates, the interest rate yield curve, interest margins, loan demand and interest rate sensitivity.

  • The success impact and timing of implementation of people's business strategies and people's ability to manage strategic initiatives, including the expansion of commercial and consumer lending activities, in light of the continuing impact of COVID-19 pandemic on customers' operations and financial conditions.

  • The competitive nature of the financial services industry The impact of assumptions, estimates and inputs used within models, which may vary materially from actual outcomes, including connection with the current expectation, credit loss model or CECL model.

  • The discontinuation of the London Interbank Offered Rate, LIBOR and other reference rates, which may result in increased expenses and litigation and adversely impact the effectiveness of hedging strategies. Uncertainty regarding the nature, timing cost and effect of federal and/or state banking, insurance and tax legislative or regulatory changes or actions and changes in accounting standards, policy, estimates and procedures.

  • Management believes the forward-looking statements made during this call are based on reasonable assumptions within the bounds of their knowledge of Peoples' business and operations. However, it is possible actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements.

  • Peoples disclaims any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements after this call, except as may be required by applicable legal requirements. Peoples' first quarter 2021 earnings release was issued this morning and is available at peoplesbancorp.com under Investor Relations. A reconciliation of the non-generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP financial measures discussed in the call to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included at the end of the earnings release.

  • This call will include about a 25 minute of prepared commentary, followed by a question-and-answer session, which I will facilitate. An archived webcast of this call will be available on peoplesbancorp.com in the Investor Relations section for 1 year.

  • Speakers in today's call will be Chuck Sulerzyski, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ms. Katie Bailey, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, and each will be available for following questions. Mr. Sulerzyski, you may begin your conference.

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Chuck. Good morning. I'm glad you are able to join us for a discussion of our first quarter results. Earlier this morning, we released our earnings at 6:00 a.m. This version of our earnings release included inaccuracies in certain reported amounts, and we issued an updated earnings release at 9:35 a.m. with corrected amounts. Please note the corrected version of our earnings release included $15.5 million of net income. I would like to start with our recent announcement, which is the 2 acquisitions we plan to complete this year. First, we have already closed the North Star Leasing acquisition at the beginning of this month. We have welcomed their team and are very optimistic and excited about the future.

  • As of April 1, North Star Leasing had assets of approximately $86 million. We are excited about the opportunities to offer new leasing products and the lift we anticipate seeing in future periods of our net interest income and margin from this high-yielding business. We also announced a planned merger with Premier Financial Bancorp, which is subject to the satisfaction of customary closing conditions, including regulatory and shareholder approvals. We anticipate this merger will be completed late in the third quarter of 2021.

  • The attractive market areas associated with Premier which includes access along the I-79 corridor, complements our current footprint. Citizens Deposits, a bank subsidiary of Premier has locations in Northern Kentucky, just outside of Cincinnati, which will increase our presence in that metro area. Overall, Premier has locations in West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C. and had approximately $1.9 billion in assets as of December 31, 2020. We believe our wide array of products and services, coupled with the increased credit capacity will benefit the customers of Premier. We look forward to partnering with their associates to deliver high-quality customer service. While we are pleased with our recent acquisition activity, we have also continued to focus on our core business.

  • Looking to our financial results for the quarter, this morning, we reported diluted earnings per share of $0.79 compared to $1.05 for the fourth quarter and a loss of $0.04 for the first quarter of 2020. As we have had historically, our quarterly expenses for the first quarter of each year includes additional costs related to employee contributions to associates health care savings accounts, stock-based compensation expense for certain employees, higher payroll taxes and annual merit increases.

  • For the first quarter of 2021, the health savings contributions, stock-based compensation expense and higher payroll taxes totaled $1.9 million and negatively impacted diluted EPS by $0.08. During the quarter, we also recognized certain non-core costs, which included acquisition-related and COVID-related expenses that totaled $1.9 million and $292,000, respectively.

  • These costs negatively impacted diluted EPS by $0.08 and $0.01, respectively. We made a $500,000 contribution to our charitable foundation, which reduced diluted EPS by $0.02. We also recognized annual performance-based insurance commissions, which totaled $2 million and added $0.08 to diluted EPS.

  • Our first quarter results included an additional release of $4.7 million of provision for credit losses, which was similar to the fourth quarter but at a lower rate. The economic forecast provided by Moody's, which we utilize in our CECL model, continue to improve. We anticipate that we will have continued volatility in our provision for credit losses during 2021, as the economic forecast for Moody's adjust as we emerge from the pandemic and restrictions are lifted.

  • For the quarter, on a reported basis, we did not generate positive operating leverage. On an adjusted basis, which excludes non-core expenses, we did have positive operating leverage compared to the prior year quarter. We continue to participate in the SBA Paycheck Protection Program and currently have approvals from the SBA on approximately $150 million in loans. We have been receiving forgiveness of the loans we originated last year, and at the end of March, we had remaining balances of $228 million on those loans.

  • Moving on to our loan modification. At the end of March, our COVID-related loan modifications stood at $13 million. Of this amount, $12 million represented commercial modifications, while consumer modifications were $1 million. We did have 1 large hotel operator subsequent to March 31, we request additional payment relief beyond the original 3 months we provided. We improved an additional 3 months of interest-only payments, which will take our aggregate loan modifications to approximately $31 million.

  • A highlight for the quarter was our improved credit quality. Our delinquency rates are stable, our nonperforming assets declined and our criticized loans dropped on year-end. During the pandemic, we have closely monitored our credit quality, which includes loan delinquencies and have seen a stable delinquency rate in our portfolio. At the end of the quarter, our current portion of our loan balances was 99%, which was consistent with prior quarters.

  • Our nonperforming assets improved considerably during the quarter as they decreased 9% or $2.7 million from year-end. This decline in both our 90-plus days past due and accruing loans and nonaccrual loans were attributable to a number of smaller relationships.

  • Compared to year-end, our criticized loans decreased by 10% or $12 million. Most of the reduction was due to payoffs and upgrades of a handful of credits. At the same time, our classified loans increased by $3.6 million net of payoffs, which was due to the downgrade of a $6.8 million relationship and was partially offset by upgrades of several small relationships.

  • Our quarterly annualized net charge-off rate was 13 basis points, which continues to be well below our historic net charge-off rate of 20 to 30 basis points. As for our loan portfolio, our loan balances grew nearly $7 million from year-end, which includes declines in PPP balances of $17 million. Excluding PPP loan balances, our loan portfolio grew 3% annualized compared to year-end. We had strong loan production and a healthy pipeline, which was offset by low line utilization that has been driven an unusually high amount of customer liquidity.

  • Our decline in line of credit utilization contributed to a nearly $30 million decrease in outstanding line of credit balances compared to year-end. We had some shift in our mix of commercial real estate and construction loan balances compared to year-end as some of our construction loans converted to permanent financing as they were completed during the quarter, causing fluctuations between these categories of our portfolio. At the same time, our commercial and industrial balances, if you exclude PPP loans, grew 5% annualized. Our consumer indirect loans continue to grow and increased 13% annualized compared to year-end. We have been pleased that during the last year of the pandemic, despite our branches being appointment only for extended periods of time, we have been able to grow our total households by 3% compared to March 2020.

  • I will now turn the call over to Katie for additional details around our financial performance.

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Thank you, Chuck. Our net interest income grew 4% compared to the linked quarter and 3% over the prior year quarter. Actions that we took in the fourth quarter to reduce the impact of premium amortization on our investment securities income had a positive impact for the quarter. Our net interest margin improved by 13 basis points over the linked quarter and was largely due to PPP loans. We were able to keep our margin, excluding PPP income, stable compared to the linked quarter.

  • During the quarter, we recognized $4.7 million of income related to deferred fees and costs on the PPP loans, which was an increase of nearly $1 million over the linked quarter. For the quarter, the PPP income added 28 basis points to net interest margin. We also recorded $383,000 of net accretion income related to prior acquisitions during the quarter, which added 4 basis points to net interest margin compared to $207,000 or 2 basis points for the linked quarter.

  • Compared to the linked quarter, net interest margin was reduced by 5 basis -- reduced by 5 basis points due to inflated cash balances. This excess cash was held on the balance sheet during the quarter in preparation for the purchase of the leasing company, which was an all-cash deal. As a result, we anticipate a reduction in cash balances during the second quarter.

  • Our net interest margin declined 25 basis points compared to the first quarter of 2020. This was largely due to the sharp decline in interest rates as a result of the pandemic, which began impacting our yields late in the first quarter of last year.

  • Looking forward, we believe the high-yielding leases we purchased with the North Star Leasing acquisition will benefit our net interest margin in future periods. These leases have an average growth yield of around 18%, which is much higher than the result of the rest of our loan portfolio, and we expect to grow both our leasing and premium finance businesses in 2021.

  • Our efficiency ratio was impacted during the quarter by annual recurring costs Chuck mentioned earlier. As a result, our adjusted efficiency ratio, which excludes non-core expenses, was higher compared to the linked quarter and prior year quarter, but improved compared to the first quarter of last year as we were able to grow our revenues beyond our increase in expenses over that period. Our fee-based income, which is noninterest income, excluding gains and losses, was flat compared to the linked quarter.

  • We had considerable growth in insurance income, which was bolstered by the annual performance-based insurance commission. This increase helped to offset the reduction in mortgage banking and commercial loan swap fee income along with our continued decline in deposit account service charges, which have been heavily impacted during the pandemic.

  • Compared to the first quarter of 2020, our fee-based income experienced growth provided by insurance, trust and investment and electronic banking income. Annual performance-based insurance commissions we received this year were 50% higher than what we received during the first quarter of 2020. We also had higher trust and investment income due to the recovery of market values of assets managed compared to at the end of March last year, along with new accounts opened that added to the increased fee income.

  • Fee-based income comprised 33% of total revenue for the quarter compared to 34% for the linked quarter and 31% for the prior year quarter. Our total noninterest expense grew 14% compared to the linked quarter. As we noted earlier, we traditionally have higher expenses in the first quarter of each year as merit increases are given to our associates, we fund a contribution to our associates' health savings and flexible spending accounts and we grant stock awards.

  • Our marketing expense during the quarter grew largely due to the contribution we made to our charitable foundation, and we incurred $1.9 million of acquisition-related expenses compared to $77,000 in the linked quarter. Total noninterest expense increased 11% compared to the first quarter of 2020. Our salaries and employee benefit costs caused the most significant increase and were driven by the additional salaries associated with the premium finance business and annual merit increases at the beginning of this year. Also contributing to the increase was higher sales and incentive compensation from our increased sales revenue and corporate performance compared to last year.

  • Our acquisition-related expenses were $1.9 million higher during the first quarter of 2021 than they were during the same period of 2020. At the same time, our data processing and software costs grew as we added new software during 2020 and our core processing costs increased. We also had higher FDIC insurance expense as our previous credits were fully utilized in early 2020. And the PPP loans result in higher FDIC expenses, we have not utilized the Federal Reserve PPP liquidity facility, which would have reduced our FDIC insurance expense. We utilized alternative lower cost funding sources that provided more savings to us than what we would have been saving by using the PPP liquidity facility. Our normalized expenses for the quarter were around $35 million, which excludes the noncore and additional annual costs we incurred.

  • Moving to our balance sheet. We grew our investment portfolio during the quarter, as we had an influx of cash from deposits and the forgiveness of PPP loans. We typically like to maintain our investment portfolio at around 18% to 20% of total assets. Our core deposits, which exclude CD balances, grew nearly $410 million from year-end. Most of this growth was in noninterest-bearing and money market accounts. along with governmental deposits, which typically get seasonal funding during this time of the year. Our demand deposits grew to 45% of total deposits at March 31, 2021, compared to 43% at year-end. We continue to maintain well-capitalized status for our regulatory capital ratios. We have been repurchasing shares in prior periods and announced a new share repurchase program earlier this year.

  • As we are currently working toward the completion of the merger with Premier, we will not be repurchasing shares for the foreseeable future. We will continue to monitor our capital levels to determine the appropriate deployment for excess capital. I will now turn the call back to Chuck for his final comments.

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Katie. As we look to increase our market share with our announced acquisitions, we are also anticipating creating efficiencies that will contribute to our future profitability. We are pleased with the fact that the Premier acquisition should be immediately accretive to earnings and should have a relatively short earn-back period for tangible book value of 2.6 years. Even more exciting is that these 2 deals should add $0.75 to $0.80 to EPS in 2022. We continue to focus on driving shareholder value, and during 2020 we completed share repurchases in each quarter and raised our dividend, which provides an attractive yield. We also just announced another $0.01 increase to our dividend this morning. During 2021, with market conditions changing, we are leveraging our capital base to complete 2 acquisitions, and we'll continue to be opportunistic as it relates to capital deployment.

  • Turning back to our results for the quarter. Some of the highlights were positive operating leverage on an adjusted basis compared to the first quarter of last year, improved net interest income and margin compared to the linked quarter, loan growth of 3% annualized compared to year-end excluding PPP payoff, a 1% improvement in tangible book value per share compared to year-end, stable credit quality compared to prior quarters, increased households compared to both year-end and March 2020. And we are proud to report that our associates donated nearly $34,000 to local food banks that served our existing footprint during the first quarter of 2021. We also surpassed $5 billion in assets at March 31.

  • I would like to share a couple of thoughts as it relates to 2021. We anticipate our second quarter core noninterest expenses, including North Star Leasing will be between $37 million and $38 million. We expect to produce loan growth of between 3% and 5% annualized for the second quarter, excluding PPP loans and acquired leases. However, that will be dependent on line of credit utilization rates remaining stable.

  • We are optimistic about the economy, and we have a healthy pipeline. We believe our gross charge-off rate will be between 25 basis points and 35 basis points, given our historic gross charge-off rate of between 15 and 25 basis points and the North Star Leasing historic charge-off rate of between 3.5% and 4%. We are very optimistic about our ability to grow income in 2022 versus 2021. Our 2 acquisitions should give us EPS growth of $0.75 to $0.80 in 2022. This represents an increase of around 35% compared to current 2021 Street estimates.

  • This concludes our commentary, and we will open the call for questions. Once again, this is Chuck Sulerzyski, and joining me for the Q&A session is Katie Bailey, our Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call back to the hands of our call facilitator.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • And the first question will come from Scott Siefers with Piper Sandler.

  • Robert Scott Siefers - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • Let's see, Katie, maybe first one for you. I think if we -- if I did the math correctly, we removed PPP and purchase accounting benefits, it looks like the sort of the core margin is running around 2.94% currently. Maybe some thoughts on where that goes from here? And I guess, what you would be including in a perfect world, if we could include the leasing transaction in there just as you look for second quarter, but sort of I'm all ears on what you're thinking.

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes. I think on the core side, we have to see what these deposits do. We will have some of the governmental deposits runoff. As we've noted, they're seasonally here in the first quarter and kind of we'll pay as we get through the quarter. So that will help us from a liquidity perspective, get some of that cash off the balance sheet with the core margin, as we said, I think that cost us about 5 basis points for the quarter. So it gets us somewhere into core being around 3%.

  • And I think we'll have maybe a little bit more upside on the investment book as it relates to yield there with the restructuring that we noted in the release. And as we've noted, the leasing acquisition, those are gross yields of about 18%. We brought on $86 million, and I think they'll have some growth from that starting point in the second quarter.

  • Robert Scott Siefers - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay. Okay. Perfect. And then maybe, Chuck, just sort of the nuance of the -- that loan growth expectation ex PPP. I think we've all been a little surprised that some of this excess liquidity hasn't gotten drawn down more quickly, and we haven't seen line utilization. Just sort of when you're talking to your customers, sort of what gives you confidence in accelerating trends and sort of what are you seeing out there?

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, I think what gives us confidence is that the new business that we've been able to do. I mean our -- under normal circumstances, our loan growth with the reduction we've had the last few quarters would be low double digits. So we're really fighting some headwinds, the line utilization, the liquidity and medical deposits are like 27% higher than they were a year ago.

  • People are getting all this PPP money, paying off stuff. So it's just a lot of headwinds. But I am really excited and optimistic in terms of some point that line utilization is going to go the other direction, and that's going to be wind in our sails. We've also been able to bring in a lot of customers and will eventually get their insurance and we'll eventually get their retirement plan. So it's a little -- we feel like we're running on a treadmill super fast and not getting that much. But at some point, those trends are going to reverse and it'll be pretty positive.

  • Operator

  • The next question will come from Steve Moss with B. Riley Securities.

  • Stephen M. Moss - Analyst

  • Just following up in terms of the pipeline here. Do we think it's primarily as focused in consumer and commercial real estate? Just kind of curious those dynamics that you're seeing outside maybe the C&I commitment growth.

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, on the consumer side, our indirect business has seen a tremendous amount of growth, and we believe that, that will continue. The unknown there is really inventory as car dealers don't have much inventory at this point. Also on the consumer side, the mortgage business is hampered by inventory, but we think that it will continue to do well. On the commercial side, we've enjoyed good C&I growth and CRE growth. It's been pretty balanced for us, and we're optimistic that it can continue.

  • Stephen M. Moss - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And then just in terms of the investment securities with the restructuring and the additional purchases, kind of how do we think about the yield on that portfolio here for the upcoming quarter?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes. I think what we've been buying has a yield of around 1.5% to 2%.

  • Stephen M. Moss - Analyst

  • Okay. And so between the purchases and the restructuring, look for that to head higher to some extent here, I guess.

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes. I think it will inch up. It won't be as drastic as probably what we saw from Q4 to Q1.

  • Stephen M. Moss - Analyst

  • Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And just in terms of -- in terms of just the reserve ratio here, just kind of curious, guys kind of tempted at more reserve than we see here, what do you think could be the bottom on the reserve ratio? Do we think about the day 1 CECL reserve as kind of maybe where it heads longer term?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes. I think day 1 was pretty optimistic outlook. I think the economy was ticking along at a pretty good clip at that point. I think getting to that level will be a while, if ever. So I think we're -- I think to your point, we still have some room potentially to go if loan balances were to hold flat. But that's not the expectation with the growth that we have forthcoming. Yes. And then with the leasing company, as we noted, their loss rates are historically higher than what the core bank has been. So that will increase that percentage or that coverage ratio.

  • Operator

  • The next question will come from Russell Gunther with D.A. Davidson.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • I appreciate the color on the near-term outlook for expenses. Maybe a bit bigger picture and assuming no change at the short end of the curve, what's the outlook for the efficiency ratio with these 2 acquisitions fully in the run rate and expense saves realized? Is there a target that you're -- or a range you're shooting for?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes. I think in the deck that we put together back when we announced the 2 acquisitions in March -- on March 29, we set about a 60% efficiency ratio, it was the all-in.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • 60% is the target by the end of...

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • 6-0.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • At the end of 2022. Got it. And then assuming some short -- some help at the short end of the curve, we could see that positive operating accelerate a bit.

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • That would be nice.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • That would be nice. So to that end, could we talk about loan floors and again, maybe getting ahead of ourselves in terms of when the Fed may move. But with say, 25 or 50, are there floors that need to be worked through that mitigate some asset sensitivity in the early innings of a rate hike cycle?

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • In terms of rate floors on a rate hike, I'm not quite following. I mean as the rates have gone up. We've hit floors, some floors now on some of our customers. But if the rates went up, we'd be moving away from the floors.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • You would break through any remaining floors with a 25 basis point increase in Fed funds? And capture the full benefit to the commercial yield on the floating rate?

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • I hate to be thick here, but let me go ahead and try. So if rates rise, you're going to move further away from the floors and help us.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • It sounds like, Chuck, that there are no floors in place that would mitigate receiving the full benefit of rising rates. Is that correct?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Say that again, I'm sorry.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • Are there any floors in place on your loans that would mitigate the impact of the short end of the curve moving higher?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • No, I don't think there's any floors that you're describing on our loan portfolio.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • If you're asking if there were any floors in the money now, not many. This is a small amount.

  • Russell Elliott Teasdale Gunther - VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • Yes. Switching gears to the loan growth. I appreciate the guidance you put out for this year ex PPP. Could you talk a little bit about how the recent acquisition as excess liquidity is out of the system. All else being equal, do you expect that to be accretive to the legacy growth rate at PEBO or just perhaps diversified from a geographic predictive, but the growth rate similar?

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • I think it's a combination of different things there. In the deck that we did, we modeled a 3% growth rate in the acquisition. I think part of it -- parts of those markets are going to grow much faster as you get in and around the DC area. A lot of it is very similar to what we have and will be consistent with what we have. We do expect the leasing company to grow faster than the bank and the Premium Finance company to grow faster than the bank.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Our next question will come from Michael Perito with KBW.

  • Michael Perito - Analyst

  • A lot of my questions have been asked. I did want to just clarify, and I apologize if you touched on this in the opening remarks, I'm going back and forth between calls here. But the -- with the North Star deal closing at the end of close on the 31st, Katie, I was wondering if you could just kind of walk through if the -- any of the metrics or anything like close was different than you guys kind of communicated initially? And if you could maybe just share with us the final goodwill number as we try to kind of think about the 2Q book value starting point with that transaction now closed?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Sure. So that -- we're in process of getting all the financials in order for Q2. Like you said, it closed end of business on the 31st, we'll record it in our financial statements, including the goodwill effective April 1. So we don't have goodwill at this time. But I think what we bought or what we announced on March 29 is consistent with what we acquired on March 31.

  • Michael Perito - Analyst

  • Okay. So I mean, it's fair. Can you just remind me what the -- I'm sorry, the purchase price was on North Star was about -- sorry, I'm just trying to look it up. Do you have that number?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • It was $47.5 million plus we paid off a line that they had with another institution that was almost $70 million. So in our balance sheet at 3/31, there's about $116 million sitting in other assets for those 2 items that we paid March 31.

  • Michael Perito - Analyst

  • And then just conceptually then, I mean, the goodwill would minimally have to probably be $45 million, $50 million. Is that fair? I mean could it be more than -- I mean just -- because I'm not trying to lock in a number, so I mean is there's any kind of conceptual thoughts you could share on how that impact could be impacted by the purchase price and then the liabilities that you paid off?

  • Kathryn M. Bailey - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes. I don't -- I think your number is high. I think it's going to be less than half of that.

  • Michael Perito - Analyst

  • Okay. All right. That's helpful. And then just a question for Chuck, just a quick 1 here. I think I saw in the press release this morning that you guys increased the dividend by another $0.01 to $0.36 in the second quarter. Curious just if -- you got these deals, you're increasing the dividend. Just any updated thoughts on capital going forward? I mean it would seem like closed -- North Star's closed, closed Premier, dividends, just increased organic growth hopefully accelerates. Is that kind of the playbook for the next 2 to 3 quarters and then reevaluate at the end of the year, is that fair?

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I think that that's fair. I think that -- I think the earnings potential, if you -- with these deals behind us is quite high, and I think that next year, we have the opportunity to reexamine the dividend and hit off historic targets of 40% to 50% payout and got upside to increase the dividend further.

  • Operator

  • At this time, there are no further questions. Sir, do you have any closing remarks?

  • Charles W. Sulerzyski - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I just want to thank everyone for joining our call this morning. Please remember that our earnings release and webcast of this call will be archived at peoplesbancorp.com under the Investor Relations section. Thank you for your time. I wish everyone good health, and have a great day.

  • Operator

  • The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.