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  • Operator

  • Good day everyone, welcome to the FPL Group third quarter 2009 earnings release conference call.

  • Today's conference is being recorded.

  • At this time for opening remarks, I would like to turn the call over to Mr.

  • Jim von Riesemann, Director of Investor Relations, please go ahead, sir.

  • - Director, IR

  • Thank you, Margaret.

  • Good morning everyone.

  • Welcome to our third quarter 2009 earnings conference call.

  • Lew Hay, FPL Group's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, will provide an overview of FPL Group's performance, recent accomplishments, long-term goals and industry observations.

  • Lew will be followed by Armando Pimental, our Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss the specifics of our financial results.

  • Also joining us this morning are Jim Robo, President and Chief Operating Officer of FPL Group, and Armando Olivera, President and CEO of Florida Power & Light.

  • Following our prepared remarks, our senior management team will be available to take your questions.

  • We will be making statements during this call that are forward looking.

  • These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties.

  • Certain key assumptions which our financial outlook and wind generation outlook are based are highlighted in the appendix to the accompanying presentation.

  • Actual results could differ materially from our forward-looking statements if any of these key assumptions are incorrect or other factors discussed in today's earnings press release and the comments made during the conference call and the risk factor section of the accompanying presentation or in our latest reports and filings with the Securities Exchange Commission, each of which can be found on the investor section of our website www.FPLGroup.com.

  • We do not undertake any duty to update forward-looking statements.

  • Please note also that today's presentation includes references to adjusted earnings, which is a non-GAAP financial measure.

  • Be sure to refer to the information contained in the slide accompanying the presentation for definitional information and reconciliation of the non-GAAP measure to the closest GAAP financial measure.

  • Now, I would like to turn the call over to Lew Hay.

  • - Chairman, CEO, President

  • Good morning everyone.

  • I'm joining now from DeSoto County, Florida.

  • This is not where I ordinarily do earnings calls, but today is not an ordinary day.

  • In just a couple of hours, we will be commissioning our DeSoto next generation Solar Energy Center, which is the largest photovoltaic solar power plant in the United States.

  • As you may have heard, we will be joined by a special guest to commission the plant, President Barack Obama .

  • There is more good news, President Obama will formally announce that the US Department of Energy has chosen our Energy Smart Florida smart grid plan, which we announced in April, to be among the first in the nation to receive major federal smart grid funding support.

  • This $200 million award further demonstrates the leading role we at FPL Group are taking in making our network among the smartest cleanest and efficient in the nation.

  • We applaud President Obama's leadership in building a new energy economy nor the 21st century, the actions combined with support for renewable energy will drive expansion of clean renewable energy nationwide.

  • FPL Group has been the nation's leader in wind and solar power, and the President's visit today should leave no doubt about the administration's commitment to renewable energy as a centerpiece of the nation's energy strategy.

  • You've heard me say it before, and I'll say it again, we need a dramatic expansion of renewable energy to pull our economy out of recession to strengthen our energy security and to address the very real threat of climate change.

  • The White House understands we need to right policy frame work in place to make this vision a reality.

  • It will take a price on carbon dioxide, it will take a national renewable energy standard and it will take an expanded transmission system.

  • When I had lunch with the President and several other CEOs earlier this month, I came away more convinced than ever he is convinced to action on all three.

  • With that, let me turn to the company's performance.

  • I'm pleased to report that despite continuing challenges, FPL Group job had a strong quarter.

  • On a combined basis, adjusted earnings per share grew approximately 10% this quarter compared to the prior year quarter.

  • Our basic earnings story has remained constant over the last two years.

  • Next Era Energy Resources, our competitive energy subsidiary that leads the nation in wind and solar power, continues to grow adjusted earnings and earnings per share, while FPL Group remains challenged by the economic downturn in Florida.

  • Of course, one of the most significant developments for FPL during the quarter has been the rate proceeding before the Florida Public Service Commission.

  • There are two distinct elements associated with this, first are the technical hearings these were completed last week we believe the commission has everything it needs to render a decision.

  • Despite these proceedings taking far longer than originally contemplated, overall, we believe the hearings have gone fairly well.

  • FPL has a good story to tell and our witnesses were well prepared.

  • FPL has the lowest typical residential bill of all 54 utilities in the State of Florida and under our proposal, those bills will decline by about 9% or $9 per month for the typical customer next year.

  • FPL has a clean and efficient generation fleet, one of the cleanest in the nation with the best fuel efficiency among large utilities, FPL also has the biggest energy efficiency program in the country, and the company service reliability is in the top quartile of industry performance.

  • Unfortunately, the substantive part of the story has been completely overshadowed by a series of public attacks by our opponents.

  • They have tried to focus the public debate on the roughly 30% base rate increase as opposed to the 9% decrease in customer bills.

  • And they attacked the Florida Public Service Commission and its staff, including allegations that upon formal investigation were proven to be untrue or blown out of proportion.

  • Nonetheless, these affected public perceptions.

  • FPL has taken steps to better communicate the real story, but we need to do better and we will.

  • While the base rate proceedings captured a significant amount attention during the quarter, we continued to execute on our plan for a cleaner, more fuel efficient, safe and reliable electric system to serve our customers in Florida.

  • Not only are we commissioning our 25 megawatt DeSoto solar site today, but we're making good progress on the other two solar sites we are building in Florida.

  • Our 75-megawatt solar thermal power plant at the Martin site is on schedule with a projected commercial operation date of November, 2010.

  • At the Kennedy Space Center, we have completed a 1 megawatt array for the use by NASA, and we are on schedule with our 10 megawatt Space Coast Next Generation Energy Center.

  • Combined, these three plants will produce 110 megawatts of solar power, making Florida second overall in the nation in solar energy production.

  • In addition, they have created more than 5,000 direct and indirect jobs in Florida.

  • As a reminder, our solar projects are not part of the rate case proceeding.

  • During the quarter, we also completed construction of West County Energy Center Unit One, 1220 megawatt combined cycle natural gas unit in Palm Beach County.

  • We expect an identical second unit to come on line in the fourth quarter.

  • Based on this schedule, both units will qualify for the generation base rate adjustment, or GBRA, under our current rate agreement.

  • The third identical unit in the same power park is also under construction with an expected commercial operation date in mid 2011.

  • At Next Era Energy Resources, we had another strong quarter, with adjusted EPS growing approximately 21% year-over-year; however, these results fell short of expectations primarily as a result of unfavorable market conditions for our fossil power plants in Texas, and a poor wind resource relative to normal expectations.

  • The principal drivers of growth were the company's investments in new wind energy projects and strong performance from retail operations as well as our wholesale marketing and trading business.

  • For all of 2009, we are on track to build 985 megawatts of wind energy.

  • This does not include approximately 185 megawatts of recently completed wind projects that we have an agreement to acquire from Babcock & Brown.

  • This acquisition will further our clean energy leadership, and is consistent with our strategy to profitably grow our wind portfolio.

  • In addition to wind development, Next Era Energy Resources is also looking at several solar investment development opportunities.

  • We believe that solar, with continuing public policy support, has the potential for significant growth in the United States, and we are excited that the pace of discussion around solar seems to be accelerating.

  • We recently signed an agreement with Pacific Gas and Electric, that subject to California PUC approval, will deliver 250 megawatts of solar power to California customers by late 2014.

  • Beyond wind and solar growth opportunities, I want to remind you that Next Era Energy Resources also has growth opportunities in previously announced nuclear up rates as well as in transmission construction, especially the CRES projects in Texas.

  • In fact, we just completed a significant transmission facility in Texas this month.

  • We have a host of attractive opportunities going forward.

  • Although on a consolidated basis, we are comfortable with the inventory of future investment opportunities, some of the challenges that we have previously discussed continue to manifest themselves.

  • At this time, as a result of continued weak market conditions affecting our Merchant gas assets in Texas, wind resource results that continued to be below expectations and the continuing affects of Florida economic uncertainties, we are reducing our adjusted earnings expectations for full year 2009.

  • Our new adjusted EPS expectations for 2009 are $4.10, to $4.20.

  • For 2010, although I will remind you we assume normal weather in our earnings expectations, the other challenges remain.

  • Especially the uncertainties regarding economic conditions in Florida.

  • In addition, while the amount of expected wind additions in 2010 remains the same, we are reducing our forecast of projects that will take convertible ITCs.

  • Hence, we are reducing our 2010 adjusted expectations to $4.25 to $4.85 a share, with that I will turn the all over to Armando Pimental, before returning for a few final remarks.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Thank you, Lew, and good morning, everyone.

  • In the third quarter of 2009, FPL Group's GAAP net income results were $533 million, or $1.31 per share, compared to $774 million or $1.92 per share during the third quarter of 2008.

  • FPL Group's adjusted 2009 third quarter earnings and EPS were $562 million, $1.38 respectively, compared with $506 million or $1.25 per share in 2008.

  • The difference between the GAAP results and the adjusted results this quarter is a negative mark in our nonqualifying hedge category, and the exclusion of net other than temporary impairments or OTTI.

  • Florida Power & Light's third quarter earnings contributions fell modestly relative to last year's comparable quarter.

  • The ongoing economic challenges are impacting customer growth and usage, and hence weather normalized sales volumes.

  • In just a few moments, I will provide additional color on the Florida economy and how it's affecting some of the key metrics that we closely monitor.

  • O&M expense rose $36 million versus last year's third quarter.

  • the largest contributor to the increase was clause related O&M, which has no affect on earnings.

  • Also contributing to the increase in O&M were increases in medical costs and the timing of power plant outage related expenses.

  • For 2009, we continue to see increases in nuclear and fossil generation costs, higher employee benefits expense, and higher customer service costs as being the main drives of full year base O&M growth.

  • The PSC did not approve a proposal to build the energy-secure pipeline as submitted, and instead asked that we go back to the drawing board.

  • We were disappointed that despite a lengthy comprehensive and transparent process, the Commission effectively denied the clear need for this investment, and required that the entire process start over in order to go forward.

  • FPL had conducted an extensive evaluation of more than 60 proposals from 7 different companies for both intrastate and interstate pipeline designs and found that the Florida Energy Secure line would provide the lowest cost option for FPL customers.

  • We continue to evaluate our options in regard to this project, which would have created 7500 jobs in Florida, including 3500 construction jobs, as well as generated more than $400 million in additional tax revenue across 14 counties and increased the resiliency and security of Florida natural gas supply as well as diversifying the source of Florida's gas supply.

  • Let's turn to a review of the factors underpinning FPL's results.

  • Third quarter 2009 earnings at Florida Power & Light, $306 million down from $314 million a year ago.

  • The corresponding earnings per share contribution was $0.75 this year, versus $0.78 in 2008.

  • The Florida economy is sending mixed messages.

  • Some of the metrics we follow appear to be moderating as you will see in a minute, but that doesn't mean they are getting better, per se, rather those metrics are just not as bad as they have been.

  • Let's now turn to the four graphs on the accompanying slide starting with the two on the top.

  • The upper left hand graph shows sequential changes in our quarterly customer accounts.

  • While there is an elements of apples oranges comparison given the seasonal nature of our Florida customer base, the point from this graph is that year-over-year comparisons are still negative, just not as bad as last year.

  • For the third quarter of 2009, we had about 9000 fewer customers than we did in last year's comparable quarter.

  • The table in the upper right hand corner of this slide shows the change in retail kilowatt sales versus last year's comparable quarter.

  • Overall, retail kilowatt hour sales grew by 0.4% during the quarter, due primarily to higher weather related usage.

  • Weather related usage growth was 2.6%, helping the quarterly earnings comparisons by approximately $0.04 per share.

  • The weather impacts relative to normal were about the same.

  • For the year to date, the weather impact has been $0.06 per share above normal and $0.04 per share higher than last year's comparable period.

  • Non-weather related or underlying usage growth remains under pressure given the economic conditions.

  • Our analysis of the customer and usage trends among our revenue classes support our view that the downturn is primarily residential, and small commercial focused.

  • The state's unemployment rate, currently at 11% at the end of the September, continues to climb.

  • At the end of June, the comparable rate was 10.6%.

  • This unemployment figure is now the highest it's been since 1975 when the state started tracking employment figures monthly.

  • The graph in the lower left hand corner of the page shows inactive and low usage customers, which we believe depict the level of empty homes in our service territory.

  • Since year end 2007, the number of inactive accounts has increased by about 72,500, to approximately 317,000.

  • This figure is higher by approximately 4000 since the end of the second quarter of 2009.

  • Finally let me put color on that chart in the lower right hand corner which looks at existing home and condo sales for the state of Florida.

  • The message here continues to be positive as the data show that number of units sold on a rolling 12 month basis may be forming a bit of a bottom.

  • As I just discussed, we aren't yet seeing those additional home sales have a significant impact on our inactive or low usage customer numbers.

  • In sum, the general economic environment remains challenging, although we are encouraged by reports of economic activity picking up in other areas of the country, we are not yet seeing many positive signs in Florida.

  • The table shown here summarized the earnings driver for Florida Power & Light for the just completed quarter.

  • In total, the quarterly comparison declined by $0.03 per share, primarily as a result of the continued downward pressure on the underlying sales volumes and the absence of certain favorable tax items.

  • The rate adjustment for placing West County unit one into service in August that Lew mentioned at the outset of the call was a partial offset to the tune of $0.03 per share.

  • Let me briefly address our pending rate proceeding at Florida Power & Light.

  • As many of you know, we are well in to the regulatory proceedings governing our base rate request.

  • Broadly speaking, our rate request is straight forward.

  • We have asked for an appropriate level of rate relief that will allow us to continue to provide the same level of service that our customers have come to expect of us.

  • Allow us to plan accordingly for the future by continuing to invest at fair returns, and efficient generation, and allow us a capital structure that keeps our cost of debt low, provides ample liquidity to fund new investments, hedges our fuel costs, and supports hurricane restorations if needed.

  • In the past, sound regulation has provided foundation for affective execution of our strategy, resulting in significant benefits to our customers through superior reliability and efficiency, low capital costs and a strong financial position, ultimately leading to low bills.

  • Over the years, that has worked extremely well for our customers, through five key areas, mainly $3 billion in fuel savings since 2002 through infrastructured investments, system reliability that is 47% better than the national average.

  • Stellar customer service, as evidence by five consecutive years as a recipient of the prestigious Service One award, declining stocks, SOX, and CO2 emissions rates, top performance and operating efficiency, and we have avoided the need to build 12 power plants.

  • Our customers have the lowest typical residential bill in the state, and below the national average.

  • In fact, compared to the typical average monthly bill in Florida, our customers save in excess of $305 per year on electricity bills, all this while operating one of the cleanest utilities in the nation from an emissions profile.

  • Later this morning, the Florida Public Service Commission will begin considering the request to delay the rate proceeding further until one new Commission appointee can be seated in January 2010.

  • We do not know out how the commission will rule.

  • A delay would likely push a final commission decision out to March of 2010.

  • Absent any change in the scheduling, the staff recommendation and the revenue requirements, an allowed return is scheduled for December 7th with a commission decision currently slated for a special agenda meeting on December 21st.

  • Let me now turn to Next Era Energy Resources, where adjusted earnings per share improved by 21% year-over-year.

  • The growth in Next Era Energy Resources earnings contribution was driven by investments in wind and better performance at our retail operations, as well as our wholesale marketing and trading business.

  • This was partially offset by the financial performance of our Texas gas assets.

  • Our 2009 wind development program continues to make progress, and we have all of the planned 985 megawatts of new wind projects either under construction or in operation.

  • During the third quarter, we announced an agreement to acquire 185 megawatts of recently completed wind projects from Babcock & Brown for approximately $352 million.

  • We expect to close transaction by the end of the year, following the receipt of all regulatory approvals.

  • For 2010 we have hedged nearly 93% of the expected equivalent gross margin for Next Era Energy Resources on our existing assets.

  • The equivalent figure for 2011 is approximately 92%.

  • For the third quarter of 2009, Next Era Energy Resources GAAP earnings were $233 million, or $0.57 per share, compared with $483 million, or $1.20 per share in the prior period results.

  • Adjusted earnings for the same periods, which exclude the affect of nonqualifying hedges and net OTTI were $262 million compared to $215 million.

  • The equivalent adjusted earnings per share contributions were $0.64 and $0.53, respectively.

  • Next Era Energy Resources third quarter adjusted EPS increased $0.11 from last year's comparable quarter, new investments contributed $0.10 per share incrementally, driven by approximately 1180 megawatts of new wind relative to last year's third quarter.

  • Approximately $0.06 per share of this $0.10 improvement can be attributed to our decision to utilize convertible investment tax credits this year on 685 megawatts of wind build.

  • The existing portfolio was flat relative to a year ago with several puts and takes across our existing wind, merchant and contracted portfolios.

  • Contributions from the existing wind portfolio declined $0.02 relative to last year.

  • The lower comparative contributions by driven by higher curtailments, and to a lesser degree, the expiration of some production tax credits.

  • This was partially offset by better comparative contributions from wind resource, although it should be noted that the wind resource for this year's and last year's quarter were well below expectations.

  • Our existing merchant fleet produced mixed results.

  • Contributions from the NEPOOL portfolio improved $0.01 per share incrementally, but financial performance from our Texas gas-fired facilities fell $0.02 per share relative to a year ago.

  • Virtually all of this is the result of market conditions.

  • Meanwhile, our retail business in Texas, which is included as part of our existing business on this slide added about $0.04 per share incrementally, given favorable margins.

  • The remaining contributions from the existing merchant fleet amounted to negative $0.02 per share, but there is nothing notable in in one category worth calling out.

  • Operationally, the generation fleet, including the wind plants continues to perform very well, and in fact, it's having one of the best years in terms of forced outage rates, nuclear performance and safety ratings.

  • Wholesale marketing and trading activities increased by $0.03 per share, and certain market conditions were beneficial to this business.

  • As we indicated before, quarterly results from this segment will often be higher or lower than we expect, based on a number of factors, including market volatility and opportunities.

  • On a full year basis for 2009, our nonasset based business segment will be slightly higher than in past years, given the strong performance that jacks up our retail operations and our wholesale marketing and trading activities.

  • We earned $0.01 per share from the sale to a utility of a wind project that we developed and constructed on their behalf, and for which we will continue to provide on going operating services.

  • All other factors netted to a loss of $0.03 per share.

  • Of this, $0.01 is attributable to higher interest education pence, and $0.01 to corporate G&A associated with the growth in the asset base.

  • Although we were pleased with $0.11 year-over-year improvement in Next Era Energy Resources quarterly earnings per share contributions, the financial performance did not meet our internal expectations.

  • Two factors primarily drive this.

  • The Texas merchant gas fleet, and the wind resource.

  • Let me explain a bit further.

  • On the former, contributions from the Texas gas fleet were approximately $24 million, or $0.06 per share below our quarterly expectations.

  • Both spark spreads and ancillary revenues were lower than we expected.

  • As for the latter, as I mentioned a moment ago, the wind resource in the third quarter was well below normal or roughly $0.06 per share below our expectations.

  • Due to the positive weather effects in other parts of the Next Era Energy Resources portfolio, total weather affects below normal were approximately $0.04 per share for the quarter.

  • For the year, the poor wind resource reduced per share results by nearly $0.13.

  • As you might expect, we spent a significant amount of time analyzing wind metrics before and after we invest in a project.

  • While we believe our forecasting methods are rigorous and reliable over time, wind resource variability in the short-term can lead to variances in earnings.

  • This affect is greater as our wind fleet continues to grow.

  • For example given our 6374 megawatts of wind as of December 2008, a plus or minus 2% difference on the wind resource compared to forecasts, would mean plus or minus $0.03 to $0.04 per share annually given the size of our portfolio.

  • It is important to understand that we forecast wind resource based on actual observed wind speeds over long-term periods.

  • In the appendix, you'll see that the wind resource was only 87% of expected output for the just completed third quarter, and 92% for the first nine months of 2009.

  • Given the poor wind resource we have experienced both this quarter and for the year to date period, compared to normal, I thought I would provide more color in to the this important aspect of our business.

  • Specifically our wind forecasting capabilities and the natural variability of the wind resource.

  • Over the last six years we have invested heavily in our internal wind forecasting capabilities, and we believe we are an industry leader in this area.

  • Think of our wind analytical capabilities in four interrelated phases, prospecting for good wind projects, forecasting long-term average wind speeds and corresponding energy production, wind farm design and layout, and lastly, short-term forecasting for production planning and scheduling purposes.

  • We covered much of this previously with you at our investor conference in March 2008.

  • Our wind forecast are typically based on 15 to 45 years of meteorological data, including winds speeds at various elevations, barometric pressure and temperature.

  • This data is captured from many different sources, including on site meteorological towers towers and from hundreds of local and regional weather sensors, we utilize our wind farm design and layout process to optimize the configuration of the wind site.

  • This process includes utilizing sophisticated wind flow models and geographical information systems to determine the best wind turbine locations to maximize wind capture while minimizing downstream losses to other turbines in the windfield.

  • Climatic systems that impact wind resource are numerous and complex.

  • That said, it is important to understand the natural variability of wind and it's resulted impact on energy production and earnings.

  • To help understand this, on the accompanying slide, we included an illustrative example of the long-term energy production for a 120 megawatt wind project.

  • First, I will orient you with this chart.

  • Each of the bars represents actual megawatt hour production for the third quarter, and you will notice we have information for the last 30 years.

  • The black line shown horizontally in the chart is a 30 year expected mean.

  • That 30 year expected mean has been developed by us based on all of the work that I just described.

  • In this example, you can see it is normal for quarterly wind resource to vary by 10 to 20%.

  • Although we are confident in forecast models, and methods we clearly understand the variable nature of the resource.

  • We use the mean to forecast energy production for both investment decision making, and annual financial planning processes.

  • It is important to point out that when this project is toed a portfolio of wind projects in different regions of the country this variability is muted.

  • Although we are obviously disappointed with the financial impact from this variability this year, we do not see this as a longer term trend or cause for concern.

  • At the same time in June to July of this year, we started to see evidence of an El Nino climate event.

  • Historically, El Nino periods have correlated with a somewhat decreased wind resource, although normal month to month weather patterns dominate wind resource, the El Nino weather pattern could suggest that energy production this winter could on average be a bit below our long-term expectations.

  • For the three weeks of October, we are seeing the same pattern of below normal wind resource as we experienced in September.

  • We have additional details in the appendix on the wind resource.

  • We continue to believe that we will construct approximately 1000 megawatts of new wind in 2010.

  • As a reminder, the annual win development pipeline expectations we share with you exclude potential acquisitions.

  • So our 2009 program will be closer to 1170 megawatts, which includes our pending Babcock & Brown acquisitions.

  • At the end of 2009, our wind portfolio should be roughly 7550 megawatts.

  • During the second quarter call, we indicated that reaching the bottom end of our goal of adding 7000 to 9000 megawatts during the 2008 to 2012 period would be optimistic given the combination of economic challenges the industry was facing, as well as our view that the PPA market was no longer as robust as it had been.

  • We currently plan to maintain our capacity to internally develop at least 1500 megawatts of wind a year.

  • How much we construct however will be subject to various market forces, including energy prices, transmission infrastructure expansion, continued public policy support for renewables, and other compelling risk adjusted opportunities for our investment dollars.

  • Earlier this month, we energized the Texas Clean Energy Express, a 345kv transmission line with a rating sufficient for carrying up to 950 megawatts of capacity, and one that will connect four of our west Texas wind plants to the ERCOT South zone, a distance of approximately 200 miles.

  • The Texas South Zone pricing clears at a premium to the west, and we are capturing this premium currently.

  • From the time we began construction until the line was energized was approximately 10 months.

  • While other industry constituents believed a more realistic time to construct was 4 to 5 years, the expected significant economic benefits caused our team to be focused on execution, and we were very happy with the results.

  • This is a great example of how our breadth, depth and scope allow us to under take projects and resolve situations that others simply can't.

  • As I indicated before, longer term, we remain confident that our Texas wind assets possess substantial value.

  • For some time we have been building our capability as it relates to solar energy development.

  • Previously, we have shared with you the fact that we are acquiring control of large parcels of land that we believe are in good locations for solar energy development.

  • While our development efforts continue on approximately 1000 megawatts of near term solar opportunities, it does strike us at the level of interest as measured by requests for proposals or RFPs seems to be increasing.

  • During the third quarter of 2009, we experienced a level of interest that was up 10 fold over last year's third quarter for utility scale projects.

  • Although we are mindful that RFPs do not necessarily turn into in closed opportunities, we have signed a long-term PPA agreement this quarter for a 250 megawatt project that would have a capital cost of approximately $1 billion as Lew mentioned at the beginning of the call.

  • The project is under permitting and must be approved by a state utility regulator.

  • We indicated that we would share with you more on our solar development efforts, and we are committed to do that as our development efforts accelerate.

  • For now the accompanying slide provides the first look into our solar development efforts at Next Era Energy Resources.

  • As some of you know, we have scheduled an investor conference on May 3 and 4 in South Florida.

  • At that time, we will provide the investment community with a comprehensive overview of the company, which will include detailed information on all of our development efforts, including those in wind, solar, transmission, and nuclear.

  • Let me turn now to the hedging status for 2010 and 2011, and expected equivalent gross margins.

  • This slide shows 2011 while 2010 is contained in the appendix.

  • We believe we are well hedged in each year.

  • The key takeaways from this slide are, we are 92% hedged on expected equivalent gross margin on existing assets.

  • Our Blythe combined cycle gas asset becomes contracted in the latter part of 2010, and so 507 megawatts move from merchant other spark spread to contracted other in 2011, the wind assets we expect to build in 2010 have a full year of earnings in 2011.

  • We are not yet including any gross margin convertible investment tax credits or revenue associated with new wind or solar projects that we would expect to construct in 2011.

  • The merchant NEPOOL margins are reduced because of a scheduled Seabrook outage in 2011 and lower prices.

  • There is no scheduled outage in 2010.

  • As a reminder, we mark to market current forward curves and we report hedging position and utilize historical market clearing prices to estimate the ancillary service value of the portfolio.

  • However we do build in a small amount of judgment based on our market expectations.

  • Our hedging strategy remains largely unchanged.

  • We continue to take steps to minimize the risk and improve visibility of earnings and cash flow profile for the portfolio.

  • For example, just this year we completed a contract for the sale of capacity from our Calhoun gas plant.

  • Next year we expect to complete a 67-mile generation tie line connection that will allow us to sell power to southern California Edison under a long-term contract from our Blythe plant.

  • Regarding sensitivity, the earnings sensitivity to changes in natural gas on our 2010 open positions is modest.

  • For every $1 per MMBTU change in gas prices, the annualized impact is approximately $6 million in after tax gross margin equating to less than $0.02 per share on after tax basis at FPL Group, for 2011, the equivalent earnings sensitivity is $0.04 to $0.05 per share.

  • To summarize, 2009 third quarter results, on an adjusted basis, FPL contributed $0.75, Next Era Energy Resources contributed $0.64, and corporate and other was a negative $0.01 contribution.

  • This is a total of $1.38 a share compared to $1.25 a share in the 2008 third quarter, or a 10% increase year-over-year.

  • Until the Florida Power & Light rate case concludes, we do not plan on releasing segment earnings guidance.

  • With that, let me now turn the call back over to Lew for some concluding remarks.

  • - Chairman, CEO, President

  • Thanks, Armando.

  • Despite our recent challenges I continue to be optimistic that we can successfully and profitably grow our business, especially Next Era Energy Resources.

  • While the economic conditions remain somewhat challenging, we are proud of many of our achievements.

  • We lead the nation in wind energy development, we are making a lot of progress in solar development, we are starting to see traction in transmission development, and our backlog of transmission projects is growing.

  • Retail and full requirements businesses are doing well.

  • Our assets are well positioned for a carbon constrained world.

  • Within Florida, we continue to be cautiously optimistic that we will achieve a fair outcome in the rate proceeding as we have in the past.

  • As our economy emerges from this terrible recession, Florida should once again start growing, and FPL stands ready to support and be part of that growth.

  • With that, I will turn the call over to the conference moderator for questions.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • We will take our first question from Daniel Eggers of Credit Suisse.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • I was wondering if you could talk about with the headwinds in Florida with some of the slowing of the pipeline for wind and timing on solar, we need to contract at a lower rate given lower commodity price in generating fleet, how is that affecting the EPS growth targets is there a point where that needs to be revisited?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • You mentioned a couple of things in there.

  • I'm going to interpret your question related to the last thing you mentioned which was the 10% adjusted earnings increase year-over-year.

  • We are not updating that 10% adjusted earnings per share increase year-over-year at this time.

  • Our plan is to provide you and the rest of the investment community with a longer term view of our earnings at the investor conference in May.

  • Based on the number of the items that you mentioned, the uncertainties in the Florida economic environment, and some of the other challenges that we mentioned on the call and we have talked about before we believe it's appropriate to be conservative in the disclosure of that long-term guidance at this point.

  • But having said that, we understand how important long-term guidance is to investors and we are not at the point where we are just not going to provide the long-term guidance in the future.

  • Depending on what happens in the first quarter, with all of the things that you just mentioned our plan is to provide new guidance at the investor conference as opposed to fourth quarter earnings or first quarter earnings.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • From a wind development, solar development perspective, RFP activity sounds good in solar what is the receptivity to people signing long-term PPAs for wind and solar today, seems like that's been a bottleneck for most of this year, is that showing signs of changing at this point?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Actually I want to choose my words carefully but it's better than what it was last time I spoke about it on the wind side.

  • Clearly, the number of folks that were interested in signing on longer term PPAs I would say was a smaller batch earlier this year than it is now.

  • We signed quite a number of long-term PPAs this year.

  • Some of those PPAs contracted wind that we had constructed last year but at the end of the year we did not have long-term PPAs.

  • I would say it's a little better.

  • I wouldn't say that certainly, it's where it was in 2007 or earlier in 2008.

  • But the number of RFPs for wind we are comfortable with.

  • We got either long-term PPAs or good visibility and to signing all of our approximately thousand megawatts of construction in 2009, except for maybe 150 megawatts or so, and so that, about that much might be open at year end.

  • Even on those, I would say that we have a warmer and fuzzier feeling today than we did three to four months ago.

  • I'm sorry the solar, I meant to also say something on solar, Dan, you asked about solar.

  • We are quite excited about the agreement we signed with PG&E, we are quite excited about the project and the prospects we got with solar development.

  • There is just a significant amount of RFP activity we are seeing this year that we weren't seeing a year ago, we were talking about solar development for quite a long period of time, and we at this company, as you might expect, we try not to toot our horn too much before we actually have something in the ground, and even now, we debated whether it was the right time to provide details on development portfolio in our pipeline.

  • We agreed that it was.

  • We agreed we are doing some good things here.

  • That activity is picking up and now would be the right time at least to provide details on our pipeline.

  • But we feel pretty good about our prospects.

  • Now having said that, solar's still expensive.

  • It's going to continue to require some significant public policy support in order to make that a viable energy alternative in the future.

  • - Analyst

  • I guess one last detailed question, Armando, why did you guys assume ITC contribution in 2010 is coming down as the nature of the projects or some other issue?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • No it's really the projects, we have, as you might expect when we line up our projects for 2010 or 2011 if we say we are going to build approximately 1000 megawatts, you should assume that we have a lot more than a thousand megawatts sitting in our portfolio that's ready to build in 2010.

  • We continue to get wind data on those projects.

  • We continue to understand where permits may be moving faster than others, where it might be a better economic situation to do that.

  • As I mentioned in the first quarter call, we are just not going to blindly do one or the other.

  • We are going to look at the economics of each of the sites and decide on economic basis what the right thing to do.

  • As projects moved around, we decided that for 2010 it would be a better move to take less convertible ITC.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • We will now hear from Leslie Rich, Columbia Management.

  • - Analyst

  • As you think about capital spending at the utility level, how might those forecasts change if the regulatory outcome is not one that you're not as optimistic, as what you asked for.

  • Clearly the gas pipeline project won't go forward unless you get approval to spend for that, but what level of spending is could be dialed back if the rate case outcome is not in line with what you believe to be a good return on invested capital option?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Leslie, it's a good question.

  • I hate to speculate on what the outcome might be and I certainly don't want to do that.

  • But I do think it's important for all of us to realize we certainly do realize here, that an outcome from the rate case that is not that's not constructive, certainly could have ramifications on our future investments significant ramifications on the number of jobs created in Florida as a result of those investments and the amount of tax revenue that goes along with those construction jobs and investments.

  • At this point, West County Energy Center number three is under construction and expected to be built in 2011, our Riviera and Canaveral plants have been approved by the PSC.

  • Our Canaveral plant actually at this point doesn't need siting approval, we expect the same decision on our Riviera plant.

  • Those are clearly on the board, our nuclear up rates continue at both Turkey Point and St.

  • Lucie.

  • But I don't want to sit back and say that no matter what the outcome, that we will continue on the same path that we are in today.

  • I think there could be some significant changes to what we have if we don't get a constructive outcome.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • We will now go to Greg Gordon with Morgan Stanley.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning, guys.

  • (technical issues)

  • - EVP, CFO

  • I'm going to answer the question I think you asked.

  • You are breaking up.

  • I think you asked are we taking less convertible ITC in 2010 than 2009.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Could you quantify that number?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Oh, okay.

  • Right now the convertible ITC that we have in earnings through the end of the third quarter for 2009 is 685 megawatts.

  • What we have in 2010 in our earnings expectations is 800 megawatts.

  • What I will say is that it is more likely than not that that 685 megawatts that we have for 2009 could increase up to around the 800 megawatt level.

  • We didn't do that as of the third quarter because we're continuing to look at the projects.

  • There is no juice if you will, if you're not sure about a project to do it before the project is COD.

  • But it's more likely than not at this point that we will end 2009 with about 800 megawatts of convertible ITC taken which is about the same that we have in 2010.

  • - Analyst

  • Your new forecast assumes up to 800 megawatts in 2009, and about the same amount in 2010.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Yes.

  • Again I'm having trouble hearing you, you are breaking up.

  • But I think the question was that 2009 earnings expectations that we gave assume 800 megawatts.

  • If that is your question, the answer is yes.

  • You're still breaking up.

  • I don't know why, Greg.

  • Was that the question?

  • - Analyst

  • It was.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Okay.

  • - Analyst

  • Sorry about the connection.

  • My second question is regard to 2011 gross margin guidance of Next Era, why have you chosen not to include any new gross margin from additional projects when you do have a pipeline of 1000 to 1500 megawatts in terms of aspiration.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • I got that question.

  • You are still breaking up but I got that one.

  • Same thing we did last year the first time we provided the 2010 gross margin guidance, we did not provide a number dealing with the amount of new projects that we believe we would construct in 2010, the first time we gave investors that number was actually the fourth quarter so the January, the end of January call we are considering doing the same thing this year.

  • There is -- as I mentioned in the second quarter call and now on the third quarter call there is a little bit more uncertainty.

  • We thought we would follow the pattern that we did last year and not initially provide that in the 2011 gross margin table.

  • - Analyst

  • Clearly earnings will be up in 2011 assuming you build some of those projects.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Yes.

  • I mean, look, I I don't want to keep anybody in the dark.

  • If we build what's in our plan for 2011, and you include the wind and some of the solar that's in our plan, and the convertible ITC that we believe that we would be entitled to you are looking at gross margin somewhere between 275, and $350 million.

  • That's a wide range and now that I said it everybody wrote I down.

  • I might as well have just given it.

  • I didn't do it because I want to wait a quarter and be more comfortable with our plans for 2011.

  • - Analyst

  • Great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Our next question will come from Steve Fleishman with Merrill Lynch.

  • - Analyst

  • One of the questions one of the reasons you mentioned for the 2010 guidance reduction was uncertainty about the economic conditions in Florida.

  • Is that -- is that a statement that it maybe hard to achieve essentially the sales forecast that's embedded in the rate filing no matter what the outcome of the rate filing is.

  • Or is that statement more a reflection over the actual rate outcome.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • It's the former, Steve.

  • It's just a little bit of detail.

  • If the third quarter the University of Florida, which is the what the Commission uses and what we use to estimate population in Florida, came out with a new population forecast which was lower than the previous population forecast.

  • If you do nothing other than plug that information in to the rate case forecast that we have provided, that would be a reduction of approximately $0.02 in 2010.

  • I also mentioned in my prepared remarks that the usage, lower usage that we are seeing in Florida was primarily residential as well as small commercial.

  • We started seeing some reductions in small commercial usage that we hasn't seen at end of the second quarter.

  • If you take that out, plug that in to the forecasts, that's also potential reduction of $0.02 to $0.04.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • One other separate question on your comment in the quarter on wind curtailments were higher could you explain exactly what that is and why those are going up.

  • That's where your plants are available to run but actually not able to sell in.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • It's -- that's right Steve.

  • And the issue continued to be in Texas.

  • Obviously, that issue is going to be helped by the new transmission line that we just built but that's a situation where at times winds are really blowing well, although as I indicated the third quarter was kinds of tough on wind resource but when the wind is blowing well you got issues with too much power trying to move from west to north in Texas and you got some constraint.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Now we will go to Kit Konolige with Soleil.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • I was wondering if you could give us a little color on the economics of the new transmission line in Texas.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Kit, I am going to since I have the ability to interpret your question, I am going to answer it this way.

  • The way we looked at the economics of that transmission line was we -- obviously, there is some construction costs associated with the transmission line.

  • But that cost, the goodness if you will, is the price difference between what you can get in West Texas and what you can get in South Texas there is goodness associated with the other assets in west Texas.

  • Steve Fleishman asked about constraint.

  • If you have less constraint in Texas that means the other assets that you have in Texas are going to do better than they would have otherwise done because you taken up to a maximum 950 megawatts out of that.

  • We had to take a look at our entire portfolio of what's the betterment of the assets we have in the west, what's the betterment of the assets we are moving from the west to the south and the construction costs of the line.

  • And the long-term value of having that line, which is absolutely critical to the Texas plans and when we put all that together, we are quite satisfied with the economic results of what we have done.

  • - Analyst

  • Obviously that would seem to imply that that holds, even though the market pricing in Texas is under pressure these days.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Yes on the whole the market pricing in Texas.

  • I would agree.

  • That's one of the things that I pointed out and one of the issues we had with our Texas gas assets.

  • But I'm sorry I just lost my train of thought for a second, Kit.

  • Looking at this specific pipeline, transmission, though, we got to look at the differences between the West and the South, and we got to take a look at the benefit of moving that power to our other assets, so although there is pressure on prices in Texas, when you put all that together, our Texas wind assets today overall, not just the ones that we are moving power to the south are in a much better position than they were in the second quarter.

  • Your point also touches on the fact that just so everybody is aware, our Texas wind assets, most of those -- those wind assets are essentially hedged in the short-term, and folks should recognize that.

  • - President & CEO - FP&L

  • Hello, can you guys hear me?

  • This is Armando Olivera, I would like to go back to Steve Fleishman's question for a second, and when you talk about the outlook for Florida, what we see in the horizon for next year, and Armando is absolutely right, our confidence level and what is going to happen in the economy next year, we're not sure what is going to happen with customer growth or usage in really the both residential and commercial segment.

  • I think it's also fair to say there is a lot of uncertainty around the rate case and what the rate case outcome will look like.

  • That certainly factors in to our thinking about next year.

  • Operator

  • Now go to Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates.

  • - Analyst

  • Can you hear me?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Yes.

  • - Analyst

  • Just to follow up on that to sort of understand it, so basically part of the outlook in Florida is associated with the economy, but also you guys maybe are thinking that there might be little bit more risk I guess associated with the rate case than you guys previously thought before.

  • Is that what I should gather from that comment?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Look, we don't want to make any specific remarks on the proceeding that's currently in place, and there is a vote later on this morning or this afternoon regarding whether the Commission is going to finish up this year or whether it's going to push it off, push a decision off on our proceeding and Progress's proceeding until the first quarter of next year.

  • I don't want to speculate on the rate case.

  • Armando's comment were just an acknowledgement that look there is tough economic uncertainties going on in Florida and part of that is the fact that a rate case always has uncertainties.

  • We acknowledge that this rate case has some uncertainties in it.

  • He and I want to make you aware of that.

  • - Analyst

  • I don't want to press you on that.

  • What I'm trying to get a sense of is that when a we are looking at the decline in earnings guidance particularly for 2010, going to next year, looks to me like when I'm looking at slide 25 and I'm looking at the hedged amounts there seems to be a decrease in the expected margins that were hedged quarter over quarter, particularly in Texas as a clear example on the higher end of the range.

  • What is it about the hedging that caused that amount to be lower in 2010 than we saw for the previous quarter?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Actually a couple of things, right.

  • Let me talk about 2010 for a minute and then I want to talk about, then I will talk about maybe Texas for a little bit more.

  • If you look at the top end of our range before, which was about $5.05, top end of our range now is $4.85.

  • This is now how think about it, this is how I think about that $0.20 reduction.

  • You got $0.06.

  • $0.07, $0.08 in there relating to our Texas gas assets.

  • If you look at the chart that you were just referring to, you will notice we reduced our gross margin on those gas assets by $40 million or $45 million.

  • So when you do that after tax and divide by number of shares we have outstanding that gets to be $0.07 or $0.08 lower convertible ITC, 200 megawatts lower than what we were estimating Q2, that's $0.04 to $0.05.

  • New population forecast that I mentioned before in Florida, that's about $0.02 lower commercial usage of that trend commercial and other usage of that trend were to continue somewhere between $0.02 and $0.04.

  • We have also seen some pressure, not only we, other companies as well from the state budgetary issues that states are facing.

  • They're using tactics to try to raise additional revenue by changing some of the ways that they've they are looking at taxing corporations, and that cost us about $0.02 to $0.03 this year, might continue next year.

  • That's about another $0.02 to $0.03.

  • Somewhere around $0.20, a little over $0.20 from $5.05 to $4.85.

  • That's how I get there.

  • Now your question also talked about Texas gas assets specifically.

  • There is a number of things for us to take a look at there.

  • When we reviewed our 2010 guidance for the third quarter, we took a hard look at ancillary revenue that we expected to receive in Texas.

  • Clearly it's down this year from what we had expected to receive in the second quarter.

  • That's one of the reasons we are changing 2009 guidance.

  • We have been able to enjoy some fuel basis issues out at those gas plants that's starting to dry up.

  • We are not sure that's going to come back.

  • We reduced 2010 for most of those fuel basis gains that we had seen in the past.

  • I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we do mark we do mark the forwards, but we do include estimate in there regarding what we expect the market to do next year.

  • And a great example of that is if we see day ahead pricing clearing at a premium to forward pricing for the following year, we often build that in in to future periods because our assumption would be that it would repeat itself and we would see higher spot prices than forward prices.

  • We reduced that quite a bit in 2010.

  • That doesn't mean that we don't have a little bit of that left in there.

  • So that's the Texas story.

  • More specifically, if I take a look at our Texas numbers for July, they were okay, they weren't great.

  • But some of the weather, some of the weather historically hot weather in the summer drives up spreads for the entire summer.

  • We didn't see that for the late summer in Texas.

  • All that put together was reduced was one of the factors that reduced 2009, that's how it affected 2010.

  • As I have one last comment, as I have said before, we are certainly not happy that ancillary revenue is down at our gas plants in Texas.

  • One of the reasons that Texas retail business is up $0.04 quarter over quarter is because they didn't have to pay the ancillary costs to our gas assets assets and other gas assets, that's probably a much longer answer than you wanted but that's how I look at it.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, and the $0.40 difference on the bottom of the thing, not that you have to go through that much detail, but why is there such a bigger delta on the lower end of the range than on the top end of the range.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Primarily variability in the things that I have already mentioned, including other uncertainties that we have including those that Armando pointed to.

  • - Analyst

  • Appreciate it, thanks a lot, guys.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, we have time for one additional question and that question will come from Edward Heyn with Catapult.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • I had a quick question on when we look at the 2011 gross margin, I know you are excluding the gas, I'm sorry the wind build incrementally but seems like the margin excluding that is slightly down relative to the 2010, I was wondering if you could point to when we are thinking about the 2011, although you are waiting until May to give us more detail, what kinds of drivers should we think about for growth on the regulatory side and on the Next Era side.

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Ted, I think the biggest as I look at the detail I have in front of me, doesn't include the 2011 assets but we also got a Seabrook outage in 2011 that we don't have this 2010, so when you look at the -- you don't have the side by side, I do, but if you look at 2010 Merchant NEPOOL other and 2011 Merchant NEPOOL other this is $55 million or so related to the Seabrook outage and little bit lower prices in NEPOOL.

  • That's the biggest drop if you will if when I look at -- besides -- besides the new assets -- let me just kind of look here and see if there is any other big significant changes.

  • That's really the biggest one that I've got.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • So when we are thinking about 2011 we have the gross margin, impact of Seabrook, gross margin from the wind you laid out at least in your comments and then on the regulated side, should we expect growth from 2010 to 2011 or is that all dependant on what sort of clauses and treatment you get in the rate case or is there expectation that that segment of the business is going to be growing as well from 2010 to 2011.?

  • - EVP, CFO

  • Ted, that's -- I tried to address that earlier.

  • We are not going to be providing segment guidance or more detail on Florida Power & Light.

  • As I indicated in my prepared remarks until the rate case is settled.

  • - Analyst

  • Fair enough, thanks a lot for the time.

  • - Chairman, CEO, President

  • Thank you for joining us on this conference call, we look forward to catching up with you later.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude today's conference, we thank you for your participation