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Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the NASDAQ OMX first quarter 2010 results conference call.
At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode.
Later we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time.
(Operator Instructions).
As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded.
I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr.
Vince Palmiere, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Please go ahead, sir.
- VP IR
Thank you, Operator.
Good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our first quarter 2010 earnings results.
Joining me is Bob Greifeld, our Chief Executive Officer, Adena Friedman, our Chief Financial Officer, and Ed Knight, our General Counsel.
Following prepared remarks we'll open up the line for Q & A.
You can access the results, press release, and presentation on NASDAQ OMX's Investor Relations website, at www.NASDAQOMX.com.
We intend to use our website as a means of disclosing non-material public information and for complying with disclosure obligations under SEC Regulation FD, and these disclosures will be included under the events and presentation section of the site.
Before I turn the call over to Bob, I would like to remind you that certain statements in the prepared presentation and during subsequent Q & A period may relate to future events and expectations and as such constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
The actual results may differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statements.
Information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements is contained our Press Release and periodic reports filed with the SEC.
With that, I'll turn it over to Bob.
- President, CEO
Well thank you, Vince, and thank you everyone for joining us this morning to discuss our first quarter 2010 results.
I'll begin my remarks by spending a few minutes highlighting some key accomplishments and then update you on the progress of our initiatives.
Adena will walk you through the financials.
This morning we reported net income of $61 million or $0.28 per diluted share.
On a non-GAAP basis we reported net income of $92 million or $0.43 per diluted share with net revenue coming in at $360 million and expenses at $201 million.
Historically our business has been a dynamic one and the first quarter of 2010 was no different.
During the period we launched new technology and new Markets, made investments in new ventures, and continued to innovate within our existing businesses.
When evaluating developments of the past quarter, the key take away is that the core fundamentals of our businesses remain strong.
In fact this strength has been demonstrated even more so during the month of April.
We have witnessed for the first time in several years the first broad based resurgence of all of our businesses in April.
When we look at the specific results of first quarter 2010, it is most important to note that revenues from our transaction businesses were up $5 million when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009.
This, despite flat industry volumes and US equities.
Our market share of US trading remains stable with NASDAQ and BX combined share coming in at nearly 24% in the first quarter 2010 down slightly from 25% in the first quarter 2009 but on par with levels realized in the fourth quarter.
Driving an increase in US cash trading revenue is an improving capture rate which has accelerated in the second quarter following adjustments to fees we implemented on April 1.
Adena will have more to say about the impact of these fee adjustments in her remarks.
In our US options business.
we witnessed growing market share with total share coming in at nearly 24% in the first quarter 2010, up from 20% in the first quarter 2009.
This growth in share speaks to the success of the innovative maker taker pricing model that we implemented at PHLX earlier this year.
Following the introduction of the new fee structure, our share in the 51 contracts included in the program grew from approximately 10% to more than 25%, demonstrating the popularity of the service we're providing.
In the Nordics, following the introduction of central clearing and INET trading platform, cash equity trading volume continues to improve with trade volume growing 30% while value traded grew 19% when compared to volumes realized in the first quarter 2009.
Volumes in the Nordic derivatives markets are up across-the-board when compared to the first quarter 2009.
Equity derivative volume was up 23%, driven by strength in index futures and options trading as well as the impact of exiting the EDX venture.
Cleared fixed income volume was also up dramatically, growing 37% from the prior year period.
In our commodities businesses, cleared energy contracts grew 15% from levels realized in the first quarter of 2009.
Turning to issuer services, NASDAQ OMX welcomed 47 new listings, during the quarter up from 20 in the first quarter of last year.
Included in new listings were 18 IPOs, quite favorable when you consider that we didn't have any during the first quarter of 2009.
Corporate services continues to perform well, reporting revenues of $17 million.
Although it appears the revenues only grew $1 million when compared to the first quarter of last year, masking the true growth is $3 million of corporate and more revenue that was included in the first quarter 2009 results.
Recall that we sold this business during the fourth quarter of last year so if you exclude corporate and more revenues, corporate services revenues grew more than 30% from year ago levels.
Leading this growth is a 40% increase in customers for shareholder identification services.
The global index group began 2010 with a strong start, with sponsors launching six NASDAQ OMX ETF's during the first quarter, including the first inverse and leverage products based on the PHLX semiconductor index, and in China, the first fund linked to the NASDAQ 100 was launched in March.
There were, however, two areas that had challenges during the quarter.
They were data products and market technology.
In data products, we were negatively impacted by the vagaries of the SEC revenue sharing formula, under which value traded plays a part in how revenue is shared.
During the first quarter of 2010, VX increased its share of trading in low priced stocks, and since these stocks represent relatively low value traded, the corresponding contribution to our market share under the formula declined and therefore, our share of revenue declined.
In Market Technology, although revenues declined from the fourth quarter levels, the fundamentals of this business remain very very strong.
Both order intake and order value increased in the first quarter 2010 as order intake grew more than fivefold and order value improved nearly 50% from year ago levels.
We have nearly $500 million of committed order value on our books, truly highlighting the long term strength of this business.
Headlining our contract wins this quarter was the announcement by the Australian Securities Exchange that it will adopt the Genium INET platform.
By replacing their current integrated equities and derivatives trading platform with the new system, Australia will recognize significant latency and transaction capacity advantages.
This new platform will also allow them to retain the core functionality of the existing system, including the ability to trade equities and derivatives on one platform.
Now, let me touch on the status of some of our initiatives.
At IDCG, our interest rate swap clearing business, we continue to make progress.
The foresight of our investment is proving out as the financial reform debate is reaching a climax.
The legislative expectations dove tail quite nicely with the product offering that IDCG has built.
While all eyes are on Washington watching developments around the financial reform legislation, we have been very busy moving our business forward.
We currently have a working product that is in the final stages of customer testing and we continue to attract new participants,having recently announced that New Edge, a global leader in multi-asset brokerage and clearing, is joining IDCG.
IDCG's clearing house is expected to recognize new members and particular a large clearing firm within the next several weeks.
We are very pleased to have a working product proved out by our clients for the testing, and we expect to be a vibrant competitor in this space in the months to come.
We continue to expand our presence in the over-the-counter commodities and clearing for the purchases of the business of North American Energy Credit and Clearing Corp, a Chicago based clearing house for the over-the-counter power and gas markets.
Rebranded NASDAQ OMX Commodity Clearing or NOCC, this fully operational business provides us with an opportunity to deliver what the US power and gas market currently lacks, a clearing house with the flexibility to clear both physical and financial instruments.
What is appealing about this opportunity is that it has the systems, procedures and operations staff in place.
As we provide our brand, our capital, and our market experience, this business is already attracting interest from customers.
With annual power demand in the US that is more than 10 times that of the Nordics, this market provides us with another area where we can strategically apply our expertise to reduce risk, increase volume, and better serve the customer.
In the UK, our power market is moving forward with membership growing to include 13 members and four authorized brokers.
Volume has been building steadily with expected increases in the coming months, as more members commit volume to the market.
We also remain on track to launch the related derivatives market in the second quarter of 2010.
Our plans for our third US equity market is in place.
We utilized our existing trading technology and customer connectivity.
The structure of the market will differ in that it will be a price size priority market, becoming the first such market to offer this type of trading in US equities.
Shares will be allocated on price, displayed liquidity and pro rata distribution, the latter rewarding participants for committing capital and displaying large size.
The more shares you display relatively to the overall market, the more shares you are allocated and the faster your order is executed.
This structure is designed to encourage greater displayed size, increased transparency and promote market stability and enable additional trading strategies.
It is another example of how we continue to innovate within our existing businesses.
In the Nordic, system performance has improved following the launch of INET.
Peak capacity throughput has increased from 1300 messages per second to 1 million messages per second.
Trade volume is up, growing 9% from January to March as the rest of Europe has averaged an increase of 3% during the same period.
Let me spend a moment regarding our decision on Neuro.
Earlier this week, we announced we are closing our MTF due to a fundamental change in our view of the value traded in Europe, and our lack of progress in developing a sustainable business model.
Although this decision may have surprised some, those who know this Management team are familiar with our financial discipline.
Following a review of the various alternatives, we realize that the business would not yield the returns we believe are necessary to maintain operations.
Ultimately we want to insure that we deploy our resources in Europe on opportunities that can deliver true value to our shareholders and customers.
We continue to have a lot of confidence in the growth prospects of our business and nothing speaks more to this confidence than the share repurchase plan that we recently announced.
As we evaluate our performance, what's important to keep in mind is that many of the macro drivers of our business, such as industry volumes and market data subscribers tend to lag the general economic recovery.
While they may be strong at the beginning of a downward cycle, they are weak at the beginning of a recovery.
Evidence of this is the fact that US cash equity volumes were down 21% when compared to the first quarter of 2009; however, they have improved in April as the economic recovery continues to gain steam.
When you couple this improved volume with our improved capture rate that we are experiencing in the second quarter, you'll see that the economics of our cash equity businesses are on par with where we were at the beginning of last year, and they certainly are in lock step with the improved environment for our core businesses and our new initiatives.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Adena.
- CFO
Thank you very much, Bob, and good morning, everyone.
Thanks for joining us today.
As Bob highlighted, the results that we reported this morning include non-recurring charges including a charge of $40 million related to the refinancing of a credit facility and terminating an interest rate swap and $7 million in pre-tax expenses related to asset retirements, occupancy and workforce reductions.
Excluding these items, our non-GAAP net income for the first quarter of 2010 was $92 million or $0.43 per diluted share compared to non-GAAP net income of $99 million or $0.46 per diluted share in the fourth quarter of 2009 and net income of $102 million or $0.48 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2009.
Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP results can be found in the attachments to our press release and in the presentation available on our website at IR.NASDAQOMX.com.
As reported on slide nine of our presentation, changes in the interest rates of foreign currencies with the US dollar had a negative impact of $0.01 to non-GAAP diluted EPS when compared to the fourth quarter 2009 and a positive impact of $0.02 when compared to the First Quarter of 2009.
Consistent with our prior calls and the remainder of my comments, we'll address our non-GAAP results unless I note otherwise.
Net exchange revenues were $360 million, a decrease of $9 million or 2% when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009 and to the prior year quarter.
Included in these results is a $5 million increase in revenues from our transactions businesses, offset by declines in our Market Technology and market data revenue.
Within transaction services, although industry volumes and market share were essentially flat, the US cash equities revenues increased $2 million or 7% when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009 due to improvements in the average capture rate.
Recall that we modified fees on November 1 of last year and in the first quarter of 2010 reflects the full quarter impact of that fee adjustment.
On April 1, we again modified fees within our US cash equities business, changing the take rate for high volume customers from $0.285 to $0.30 per hundred shares.
With the improving volumes and the latest fee change, and assuming constant market share, we anticipate that we could experience a $6 million to $8 million improvement in our quarterly revenues for our US cash equities business starting in the second quarter.
European cash equity trading revenue remained flat when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009.
Although trade volume and turnover both increased during the period, the average fee realized declined approximately 8% as we implemented a capped fee structure during the first quarter.
Also impacting the revenue wag the partial elimination of $2 million in network vendor fees associated with the implementation of the INET trading system.
A corresponding expense of approximately $2 million was also been eliminated.
Finally, changes in FX resulted in a decline of $800,000 in revenues for the European cash equities trading business.
Derivative trading and clearing revenue was $61 million in the first quarter versus $57 million in the fourth quarter of 2009.
Driving the increase when compared to the prior quarter were derivatives revenues in Europe, which were $28 million, up from $26 million in the fourth quarter.
This increase is primarily related to the growth in cleared energy products and equity futures and options volume.
Total revenue from cleared energy and carbon products was $10.5 million in the quarter, up from $10.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2009.
Trading and clearing of stock and index derivatives contributed $11.9 million, up from $8.4 million last quarter.
Revenue of clearing from fixed income products is $4.1 million, up from $3.7 million in the prior quarter and other revenue and fees were $1 million, down from $3 million in the fourth quarter.
In the US derivatives market, our net derivatives revenues were $33 million in the first quarter, representing an increase of $2 million when compared to $31 million in the fourth quarter of 2009.
The increase is primarily due to higher volumes and market share; however, also contributing to the increase is the inclusion of the revised volume based PHLX membership fee which previously has been a fixed monthly fee and included in access services.
The impact of this change was to increase trading revenues by approximately $1 million while reducing access services by the same amount.
Within market data, revenue was $80 million for the first quarter, down $4 million when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009.
Contributing to the decline was the level of volume in low price stocks as Bob mentioned, of which our BX market matched an increasing share in the first quarter.
Under the SEC's revenue sharing formula, value traded plays a role in how revenues shared and as BX's share of low price stocks increased, its corresponding contribution to our quote and trade share under the revenue share formula diminished.
Although our total market share of US equities was stable in the first quarter 2010 when compared to fourth quarter, our US tape plan revenue declined due to the unique aspect of the formula.
Also contributing to the decline in US tape plan revenues was a slight decline in subscriber population.
In Europe, market data also declined when compared to the fourth quarter 2009 primarily due to foreign currency impact of the stronger US dollar versus the Euro.
Moving on to broker services this revenue was $4 million in the first quarter down $2 million in the fourth quarter primarily due to the sale of our UK broker services business which occurred in the fourth quarter 2009.
Within issuer services, our revenues were $84 million for the quarter equal to revenues reported in the fourth quarter of 2009.
Lower US listing fees were offset by higher European listing fees and licensing revenues from our global index group.
Turning to Market Technology our revenues declined in the First Quarter to $34 million, down $10 million or 23% from fourth quarter level, however revenues increased $5 million or 17% compared to the first quarter 2009.
As I mentioned on our last quarter call, Market Technology revenue is driven by large delivery contracts as well as short-term enhancement projects and other variable revenue.
In 2009, due to the economic climate, several of our clients deferred spending until later in the year, resulting in high variable revenues in the fourth quarter coming from small enhancements, license upgrades and other contracted fees.
On a going forward basis for 2010, we expect revenues to be more stable quarter-over-quarter, with some significant deliveries deferring revenue into 2011.
As a reminder, US GAAP accounting requires that we deferral revenues and expenses related to large delivery contracts until the full implementation of the software and acceptance by the client, at which point, the revenues will be recognized over the remaining life of the contract.
In the first quarter of this year, we announced a new long term agreement with the Australian Securities Exchange to upgrade their exchange systems to INET.
Additionally, we're in the mid stage delivery phase of Osaka, and the early stage delivery phase of the Kuwaiti exchange.
We expect to begin realizing revenues for each of these contracts in 2011.
Generally for 2010, our strong order value demonstrates that we have several new long term contracts with deferred revenues.
Looking at specific numbers, order intake into total order value both improved from levels in the first quarter 2009 with order intake increasing to $50 million in the first quarter of 2010 up from $9 million last year and order value increasing to $496 million in the first quarter of 2010, up from $340 million in the first quarter 2009.
Order intake represents the value of orders signed in the current quarter and can include short-term deliveries, as well as large contracts with long term revenue benefits.
Order value is the cumulative value of all of the orders that we have signed, but for which we have not yet recognized revenue.
Because the Market Technology business is difficult to monitor on a quarter-over-quarter basis, we will begin to provide quarterly revenue guidance for this specific business unit.
For the second quarter 2010, we expect our Market Technology revenues to be approximately $34 million.
Now, turning to expenses.
Total operating expenses for the first quarter were $201 million representing a decrease of $3 million from $204 million in the fourth quarter of 2009.
Lower compensation and marketing expenses were somewhat offset by higher costs associated with our data center lease.
Also contributing to the decline in spending is the impact of FX.
Now, looking forward for the full year 2010, we expect total expenses will be in the range of $875 million to $890 million assuming current FX rates.
Included in these figures were approximately $65 million of non-recurring expenses, including those associated with the recent debt refinancing as well as the closing of Neuro.
Excluding the non-recurring expenses, we anticipate our operating expenses will be in the range of $810 million to $825 million reflecting a decrease when compared to our previous guidance which was in the range of $815 million to $835 million.
Included in this guidance are lower core expenses as well as savings associated with closing Neuro, partially offset by spending related to the recently acquired US energy clearing business, NOCC, and the expected acquisition of Nord Pool ASA in late second quarter.
Results from the quarter yielded operating income of $159 million with operating margins coming in at 44% and net interest expense of $23 million, up $1 million from the fourth quarter of 2009.
Interest expense for the quarter represents nearly a full quarter impact of the refinancing that we completed in January, and finally on the income statement, the effective tax rate for Q1 2010 was 33%, within the range of our normalized tax rate of 32-34%.
Now turning briefly to the balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents and financial investments at quarter end were approximately $945 million.
Of this amount, approximately $526 million is reserved for regulatory requirements and other restricted purposes.
In the quarter, we used $11 million for capital spending purposes and $46 million was used in the quarter to buyback shares.
Following the approval of the share repurchase program on March 2nd we moved aggressively to acquire 2.3 million shares before quarter end and as of yesterday's trade date, we have purchased 3.7 million shares with an aggregate value of $76 million.
Our total debt obligations at the end of the quarter were $2.1 billion.
As I mentioned before, we refinanced our Credit Facility in January and our new term loan requires us to begin paying down the debt at $35 million per quarter beginning in the third quarter of 2010.
Additionally, when we announced our share repurchase program, we also announced we would pay down an additional $100 million this year, bringing total expected debt repayment for 2010 to $170 million.
In conclusion, this quarter we've continued our intense focus on controlling expenses and managing the balance sheet.
We continue to drive down core operating costs and exit non-core businesses, providing us the opportunity to pursue new growth initiatives in a disciplined and capital efficient manner.
Thank you, and now I'll turn it back over to Vince.
- VP IR
Thanks, Adena, and Operator, we'll take questions now.
Operator
(Operator Instructions).
Our first question comes from Daniel Harris from Goldman Sachs.
Please go ahead, sir.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning how are you?
- President, CEO
Okay, yourself, Daniel?
- Analyst
Good.
I just want to touch on the European cash equity business.
Obviously things feel better with INET and central clearing so I'd love to get a little bit more color around what kind of uptake you're seeing from new clients as they trade in that business and then that weren't there before because of the changes you've made and then of course what impact that's having on the fee capture per basis point I guess as that was a little lower than we were looking for.
- President, CEO
Sure.
Let me just give you a couple facts in terms of what's going on in the month of April in the Nordics on the cash equity side.
One is we see that the average daily number of trades is about 315,000 per day.
That's up from 278 in the first quarter and a couple days ago, we set an all-time record in Stockholm.
The average daily value traded is even more impressive.
In April it's about EUR3.1 billion up from EUR2.6 billion in the first quarter, so the core drivers have improved quite dramatically.
I would say with respect to new entrants in the market, we're in the early stages of that and most of the increase in the velocity have been driven by the traditional players, and obviously enjoying the benefits of the faster system and central clearing.
That being said the pipeline for new entrants is very strong.
We're working through the classical issues of them getting co-located in the data center going through things they have to do to become a really effective Nordic competitor so we expect that to generate additional volume for us in the second quarter.
With respect to the fee cap, we're very happy with the progress there.
Obviously, our goal is to retain the market share we have.
We're proud to be I think the leading established exchange with retention of market share so I think it's working its magic, and combined with the new entrants we think we'll do very well.
- Analyst
Okay, great.
Thanks, that's great color.
Just moving on to what I would imagine will be the first of a number of questions on IDCG.
Obviously the regulatory environment here in the US is changing pretty rapidly and you guys seem like you've been early and well positioned with this product but any update on the number of clients that are testing the platform and to some extent the FCM's that may be joining, you seem like you gave some color that you'll have another dealer coming on board.
- President, CEO
Yes, I would say this, the way to look at it right now, Daniel, is theres a very small number of customers in the industry who are not testing with us at this point or not engaged with us in a productive way so certainly the IDCG office is very busy.
We feel fortunate to have a product that meets the need and likely to be regulated into existence in the near term, so we're excited about the progress and we think we can really help bring that market along.
- Analyst
Okay, and then I'll just ask a quick numbers question and jump back in the queue.
The closing of Neuro, how do you think about that?
Maybe it's for Adena in terms of the lower expenses offset by any revenues you might have had?
- CFO
Sure.
I think that we actually provide a little bit of color of that in the presentation by updating our new initiative slide so what we basically have indicated for 2010 is that the cost savings associated with closing Neuro essentially are equivalent to the new expenses we have taken on with the NOCC clearing business in the United States, so essentially what we've done is replaced the capital we're spending there with capital on an initiative that we feel has a higher return opportunity for us in the US with the cleared energy business, and but it is definitely a net savings to us in terms of the revenues versus the expenses and recognize that it's going to be a half year impact this year and a full year impact next year.
- Analyst
Okay, thank you.
- CFO
Thanks.
- VP IR
Operator, we're ready for the next question.
Operator
Our next question comes from [Rich Repeat-o].
- President, CEO
I'm not going to talk a call from [Rich Repeat-o], but maybe Rich Repetto I'll take that call.
- Analyst
My name has been a controversial topic on these calls the last couple of days but you get some interesting stuff going on here, Bob.
It requires I think a little bit in the weeds on some of this, but on BX we know you've been picking up market share.
There's been a high rebate relative to the spread in stocks like Sirius, and I guess what do you expect going forward?
I know there's been some issue on whether that pricing level can be maintained and Sirius actually moved up above a buck so any comments there on the outlook on revenue, excuse me, rebate versus the spreads on these low price stocked at BX?
- President, CEO
We certainly expect that the capture rate that we have in BX and what we call NASDAQ Classic will be relatively constant as we look at 2010.
We expect an increase in capture, we are experiencing it in NASDAQ Classic based on the pricing action we took in April and if you are looking for a dominant fact, I would definitely focus on that.
- Analyst
Okay, so you'd think you can keep your market share at BX as well with the change in pricing?
- President, CEO
Yes, we do.
- Analyst
Okay, and then next on options, it's a 700 basis point increase and I think in March at PHLX or somewhere around there at 600.
The question is with the SEC looking to cap, like at least it's been reported that your strategy has been on a maker taker to increase the rebate and to attract flow, and I guess with caps on fees I think the dominant view is that you might not be able to maintain such a high rebate.
Are we looking at it right?
How will you do option mash" share if there was a cop on fees at $0.30 per contract?
- President, CEO
The first thing I want to say on the options space and it's similar to the other news we have, the second quarter has been outstanding.
The first quarter for options volume was very strong at 13.1 and so far second quarter it's at $16 million, so it's a dramatic increase quarter on quarter and our share has held constant so certainly I think we're in the early stage with respect to the pricing discussions on the options marketplace and our position with the SEC is if you're going to look at pricing you have to look at it holistically and that holistic pricing look has to include the impact of equity ownership on pricing.
I think that message will resonate and will engender a longer debate.
With respect to the particular pricing move that's in the SEC comments, we certainly believe within the confines of the Philly pricing model, which I have to admit is relatively complex, there's different ways for us to maneuver and recognize that the capture rate that we get in Philly is around, well I will state significantly less than $0.30, so there's ways for us to tweak our pricing with what I would call a de minimus impact on the economics of Philly.
- Analyst
Okay, and very last quick thing, another one on IDCG.
One agency let's just say has actually expressed a favorable view and they've talked about the potentially even to move in clear prior to any legislative reform or any rules being written.
I guess the question is is there an expectation you could be clearing any sizeable amount any time soon or it looks like any reform is still 180 days until the rule after the reform is written so prior to that is there any expectation you could be clearing in any sizeable amount even before?
- President, CEO
Well, let me say this.
One is I'm not going to speak to any one customer or customer class directly on this call but I will say that there are market participants who are ready to clear trades with IDCG today.
We are casing what I'll call technical barriers that we have to work through to make that happen.
It's our expectation that those technical barriers, and when I say barriers these are normal course events you have to do as you want to have a seem less work flow for a new system and I would say that we should be able to work through that within the next 60 to 90 days with the different vendors and participants in it and there are people who want to trade if they could today.
- Analyst
Got it.
Thanks very much.
Thanks guys and gals.
Operator
(Operator Instructions).
Our next question comes from Alex Cram of UBS.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
- President, CEO
How we doing Alex?
- Analyst
Good.
Just want to come back to the whole Neuro closure here.
I'm not so much interested Neuro per se but maybe what kind of reach this adds to your discipline that you talked about at the beginning of the call.
Like are you doing any broader review of all of these initiatives?
You have a lot of initiatives in the air right now so there are potentially other opportunities that could be shut down as you really focus on the expense discipline or maximizing returns for shareholders and I guess tied to that, you certainly seen some of the maximizing pricing relative to market share in US cash, so is this a renewed focus on maybe not being a Jack of all trades everywhere but trying to really drive value here?
- President, CEO
Well, I would say this.
One, the discipline about reviewing initiatives has to be consistent and comprehensive and to the extent there is greater competition for investment dollars within the firm, you have to put that much more intense of a point on that review, so I think the Neuro decision came along with the standard review process as we have within the organization, and with respect to some of the tenor of your question, I think it's important to recognize that NASDAQ OMX is a global organization.
We are not a US cash equities market exclusively any longer and we have a number of people who work in our organization who come from a different walk of life than cash equities who have different business plans that's important they get the proper funding and support at the corporate level so we balance that against our financial discipline, so the actions we're taking I think are consistent with the culture and Management philosophy in NASDAQ OMX.
- Analyst
So we shouldn't expect any other significant reviews of other businesses that might underperform at this point?
- President, CEO
Well, no.
I think I'm saying that all our businesses have to be reviewed on a regular, consistent and comprehensive basis so we do that, and we will continue to do that and what I'm saying is that review in a practical way gets more intense when we have different competition for the use of our pre-defined investable capital, but we review these businesses regularly, consistently, and we certainly have to make the hard decisions when to start and when to stop and I think we take pride in our ability to do that.
- Analyst
Okay, and then let me just add something else on the European cash business.
Now, obviously, has your outlook for the pan-European Markets changed significantly at this point?
I mean, do you think there are opportunities when you look at the Nordic market to maybe start trading pan-European perhaps lever the business more towards the regional Nordic customers and give them access to the European marketplace maybe at a much better price point or better economics?
- President, CEO
Well, I will say this.
With respect to pan-European marketplace, we certainly are fully aware that the value trades in Europe has declined quite dramatically part and parcel of the credit crisis and we don't see it reviving back to that level.
We also see that on the pan-European MTF basis unlike in the US, the capture rate went right to a bottom level very quickly.
In the US, the capture rate in the ECN world declined over time and that decline over time was closely correlated to an increase in volume over time, so in Europe, we didn't have that experience and that was also from a financial point of view exacerbated by the fact that there's no market data available to the MTFs at this point in time and clearly, MTFs that wants to put together a market data product would have to have a very large share of market so that drives us, but we also when we look at pan-European, we certainly see in the world going forward, there is and will be segmentation opportunities to look outside your home market.
I think you would look to our experience in Oslo as informative of how we might take our pan-European efforts in the future.
We are at this point the largest MTF in the Oslo marketplace and we've really just begun there so we'll look at segmentation opportunities.
Okay?
- VP IR
Operator, do we have any other questions?
Operator
Yes, our next question comes from Roger Freeman of Barclays.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
- President, CEO
How we doing Roger?
- Analyst
I'm doing good, thanks.
Actually following up on Alex's question there, so if I hear you right, it sounds like you don't have a desire to acquire any MTF basically market share.
I mean, the issue being volume is a consideration given as you point out base pricing went low very quickly, buying the market share doesn't get you where you want to be, right?
- President, CEO
Well, I didn't quite say that.
I was speaking about our build strategy on a pan-European basis.
I think the key is segmentation going forward, directly leveraging the core platform that we have in place today and obviously the fact that we converted the Nordics to INET the first quarter gave us the ability to think about a pan-European operation on a different way.
As we were running the old platform, it really didn't give us a point of leverage from Stockholm.
Now, we have that.
With respect to acquisition opportunities at MTFs, as we've said previously, it is something that we recognize as our job as to understand the different assets on a global basis across the different asset classes and we would certainly consider any reasonable opportunity in Europe on an MTF basis.
- Analyst
Okay, and what would you characterize as having been the biggest challenge sort of the size of pricing because actually when you went into this, I think you yourself said that you were going to come in with basically US level pricing which was rock bottom so has the bigger issue just been the ability to get dealers on board and partnering with them successfully?
- President, CEO
Well as I said I think value traded, the value traded numbers are in the models today were not in the models two years ago and we certainly believe that two year ago number which we thought was going to increase is not real, so that's the single biggest determinant.
- Analyst
Okay, and then on IDCG, a follow-up there.
So some of the technical issues have to get worked through.
Is this more on the IDCG side, is this getting dealers from some of the operational aspects on Board or is it issues still with the FHFA, because they said they were going to do it within two months and that was two months ago so it's either starting any day or somebody is behind.
- President, CEO
First, I'm talking about the market in general.
As all of the focus has been in Washington at the end of the day, the plumbing infrastructure between the industry ecosystem is fundamental to the success, and I said we have several customers of some of our existing FCMs who would trade tomorrow but we have to make sure that we give them a seamless environment they are working on that and there are vendors involved with this value chain, it's not exclusively under our control or the FCM's control or the end-user customer, so we're working on it, and again, we wish it was done today.
It's not, but this is a normal course of business that you've got to do and obviously vendors have different priorities and they don't have to naturally line up with them as being the top of the list so we're working through it.
- Analyst
Okay, and then just lastly on the BX, looking at the pricing and the rebates that have brought in higher volumes with lower priced stocks, is that something that given the negative impact in the market data pricing formula or market data revenue sharing formula that you need to reevaluate there?
Is the benefit you're getting out of volumes worth it from the loss you're getting on the market data?
- President, CEO
Definitely.
We think BX from a market data perspective will always be a relative underperformer but we also recognize that the first quarter was probably extreme in terms of how the formula played out, but overall it's just been a great new initiative for us.
Operator
Our next question comes from Niamh Alexander of KBW.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Good morning.
Thanks for taking my questions.
Can I go to the options business where you have consecutive revenue growth again and your share has been very strong, congratulations, help me understand because you've lived through the growth of the high frequency trading community in the equities world and how far along do you think you are with the uptake in respect to the options because it seems to us like it's early stages but you would see a lot more of that than have a lot more information on that should we say?
- President, CEO
Sure.
Let me just start by saying our success in the first quarter with respect to market share with PHLX has continued in April where in the First Quarter we averaged 21.3%, April we're up to 23.4, and as I previously mentioned the average daily number of contracts is up to 16 from 13.1 so all very good drivers.
With respect to the high frequency question, I will say this, that by and large, the equity high frequency trading shops have been at this point a minimal impact on the options marketplace.
We know there's a large number of them endeavoring to get their models to work in this environment.
Several have been relatively successful, but if you would have made a prediction a year or 18 months ago you would have thought they would have had a stronger impact, so I think with the early stages, I believe the high frequency firms in the fullness of time will figure out how to be a significant player in this space but they aren't quite there yet.
- Analyst
And with respect to the pricing, Bob, do you feel that there's maybe more tweaks of the pricing, there's always tweaks to the pricing should we say, do you think that maybe as more of these get on Board with the exchanges that the competition for price pressure intensifies from here?
I know you've been innovative in moving towards a hybrid price type of structure?
- President, CEO
Well I think there will always be pricing considerations and we certainly spent a lot of time thinking about it and our pricing in the options world is in certain ways fundamentally more complex than the equity world but I would caution you to recognize that the options market structure and the aggregation of order flow in the options world is in some ways fundamentally different than in the equity world, so they aren't going to follow the same path per se, it will be a different world but it will be competitive.
- Analyst
Okay, that's helpful, thanks Bob and if I could on IDCG, help me understand, if you've got the buy side that want to clear a product, typically right now the way the market structure is, it's most often a dealer that's on the other side of the particular trade.
Could the buy side put something into a clearing house and the dealer, would the dealer also have to agree to go into that same clearing house or they both need to agree on which particular clearing house they want to clear at and right now have you had many positive and supportive conversations with the dealers with respect to participating?
- President, CEO
Well, we're having many conversations with the dealers.
As I said in my early conversation, it's really a very few that are not talking to us in some full way but we're not naive also and I think the dealers are talking to us because they are receiving pressure from their customers to do so, and we're probably not their first choice with respect to the clearing house they would pick if they had complete control of the decision, so we're working hard to gain the dealers trust and we're certainly open for input from the dealers with respect to what would make the product that much more appealing to them, but we're not going to sacrifice our core mission and that is to make sure this marketplace is allowed to open up to a greater variety of competitors and competitors both from the FCM point of view and the liquidity provision point of view, so I think there's a common path we can find with the dealers and we're working towards that.
- Analyst
Okay, have you had any, should we say expect maybe some public announcements of some cooperation, is that what you're working towards?
- President, CEO
Well, we're anxious to get to first trade.
It's a little frustrating in that we are ready.
We have customers who are willing, and as we said we just have to have the plumbing right, and this business that is fundamentally important because there is a strong risk element to it and we have to make sure that we're properly automated, so if you had to highlight one thing it's the push to get the systems integration done so we can get to first trade.
- Analyst
Okay, fair enough thanks and if I could go back to acquisitions you've laid out many times how you think about levering the existing platforms so I won't ask you there but can you help me understand the pace of discussions with respect to potential acquisition targets now that your balance sheet is signed up and your cost structure you've kind of worked through what was left there, have the pace of discussions increased recently?
Are you seeing more opportunities, are seller expectations coming more in line with what you're looking towards?
- President, CEO
Well I would say this.
There are always discussions with respect to possible strategic maneuvers.
I think as compared to 2009, 2010 the discussions are at valuation points which would make sense for our shareholders.
For whatever reason in 2009 whatever discussion you had it was as if the credit crisis did not happen, so I think you see more people dealing with reality at this point in time so I think that would bode well.
Operator
Our next question comes from Howard Chen of Credit Suisse.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
- CFO
Good morning.
- Analyst
Bob, pretty constructive on the organic growth and the opportunity to buyback the stock here.
I guess how do you think about the potential pace of repurchase activity versus the M & A landscape and what you just touched on and just organic deployment?
- President, CEO
Well I'll let Adena take part of that question but let me just start and it's kind of a continuation to the last point.
With the fact we now have our balance sheet in shape and we are engaged in a share repurchase program, it's important for our investors to recognize how we look at acquisitions, so for the past number of years we have always said that the acquisition has to accrete to our shareholders within a year, slightly longer if it's a larger acquisition but certainly not so much longer that we're in the business of predicting the future, and the second thing we said, it had to be strategically significant and you could easily define that as being something that levers the mothership in some fundamental way, but there really is a third dimension to how we look at acquisitions today, and the acquisitions essentially have to provide a return superior to the share buyback program, and at this point in time, that in many cases is the highest hurdles that we look at, so we're using that discipline.
As I said, there are more targets that are dealing with realistic valuations, but we use that as our fundamental guiding post.
- CFO
And Howard, in terms of the share buyback, we've been pretty systematic in the way that we've been buying back shares and I think we would expect to continue to follow that discipline as we continue to have the plan in place.
We have a fairly narrow open window so we do tend to put in what I would call the 10 B 5-1 plans which will create more of a systematic approach to the buyback and we certainly intend right now to continue to do that.
- Analyst
Great, thanks and then just another follow-up on IDCG.
In the past, Bob, you've helped us frame the overall opportunity calling it a nine figure opportunity, Adena, I think you've given pricing in the past of just $1 per hundred thousand of notional value.
Anything you see on the competitive landscape or within the current legislative proposals that make you change that broad financial picture you've painted?
- President, CEO
No.
Not at all.
We certainly expect it to be a competitive marketplace and right now the discussions are not about fees, but how we're changing the world and how it's changing their daily lives, but certainly in the fullest of time like anything else there will be competition.
- CFO
And I would also say on the fees just recognize as that's kind of average across kind of the essentially the durations that we would anticipate coming in so there are variable fees based on the specific contracts that would come into the clearing house but that's kind of the average that we've been looking at across the duration.
Operator
Our next question comes from Bob Napoli of Piper Jaffrey.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Another follow-up question on the options business and looking at the structure of the options business it's starting to look like the barriers to competition may be no higher than it is for the equities business given the way market share is moving around.
For example, your market share is up a lot but your revenue, gross revenue was up 19% quarter-over-quarter but your rebates were up 62%.
I mean obviously your other competitors are not going to just sit back and cede market share permanently so the options business, does that mean that the operating margin inevitably is going to be much lower?
You can never compare this business to many of the future businesses that the mark has and the barriers to entry are just too low.
Is that fair or not?
- President, CEO
I don't believe it's fair.
When I say it's not fair to directly compare it to the cash equity business because it is a fundamentally different business, the number of players involved with the options marketplace is different at this point in time, and the competitive characteristics are different.
The market structure is different.
I do need to highlight that, and certainly with respect to the great gains in share we've had at Philly, it's been through the innovation of trying to combine the maker taker market structure that we know in the equity world but put it in the context of the existing options market structure.
That's proved to be the right place to be and you see it.
That NOM for NASDAQ OMX has been a reasonable success, certainly relative to the investment we made in the new initiative it's providing an outside return but it didn't sweep the world the way maker taker price time did in the equity world.
It's only when we combined it within the existing infrastructure in Philly that we had a greater return so if I was to put any single fact that tells you that there are differences that would be it.
- Analyst
And your pricing share, Bob, you said is up strongly again but it is up in April.
Was there any pricing adjustments in April, were there any pricing adjustments in April versus the first quarter?
Well there weren't pricing adjustments, but I would say this much.
Our capture rate in April has improved as compared to the first quarter and that's been as a result of the different mix of business, the improved mix of business so if we look at April for the options we see overall industry volumes are higher, our share is higher and our capture is higher, so we call that a trifecta.
Operator
Our next question comes from Matthew Heinz of Stifel Nicolaus.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
Just another question on the clearing business.
As you move forward with customer discussions with IDCG, how are you thinking about balancing the competitive aspects in terms of margin requirements versus the duty of risk management for the clearing house and just what are your thoughts as to how the competitive environment will play out.
assuming the legislation comes down as expected.
- President, CEO
Well, one, any time you run a clearing house, the risk manager walks their own path and that path is independent of the particular business requirements, so we've spent a lot of time with the risk model, we feel quite strongly that it represents the best of breed for clearing houses so we feel strong and very comfortable with how that is constructed and it's important to recognize we are taking this over-the-counter product and putting a futures wrapper on it so as is a reference point, the clearing house model in the futures world, not in the over-the-counter world, so we feel good about that.
I'm not sure we remember the first part of your question.
- Analyst
Really just kind of getting down to how will you compete other than just the fee that's charged for clearing contracts, will you compete on margin requirements and how do you feel that conflicts--
- President, CEO
No, no, you don't compete on margin requirements, so we have at this point in time a unique product construction and as I said we've taken an over-the-counter product and given it the flexibility that you would have in the futures environment, so we clearly have a product lead with that.
Our clearing house represents best of breed so that's a plus for us, others will be able to follow that more closely.
We have spent a lot of time making sure the technology is in place to make this as seamless as we can with our customers and as we've discussed in this call and other meetings, we've spent more time with the integration efforts, so we clearly have a head start in that arena and then you have the basic model of the clearing house.
As I said, our core principle is we want this clearing house to be in all to all market a true clearing house and that at this point in time is unique in the marketplace.
- Analyst
Okay, great and then how do you think the NFX futures business fits into all of this?
Do you think they are pretty significant capital efficiency opportunities alongside the futures?
- President, CEO
Well I think we're at the beginning of time with over-the-counter derivatives coming into the cleared environment so that's the dominant decision point.
Who can take these products, move it forward into a clearing house environment and process the work in a seem less way and provide not just to our clearing house but to our FCMs and their customers the proper risk management tools and that's how we'll compete and win in this space.
- Analyst
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from David Grossman of Thomas Weisel Partners.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Thanks.
Just two really quick follow-up questions.
Back to BX just quickly, given that it's doing what it's supposed to do, is the first quarter really an aberration or will there always be a few low price stocks that will be high volume names and we'll see that impact on market data so we kind of have to just wait until you anniversary kind of that impact out four quarters.
- President, CEO
Well, I think I said this before.
I think BX will always underperform with respect to the market data formula as it exists today, so that's a constant but we also believe that the first quarter was extreme so there will always be some negative drag it's not likely to be as strong as it was in the first quarter.
Do you want to add anything, Adena?
Adena used to run market data.
- CFO
Yes, so the SEC formula has been something that things can move around based on the way that you quote, the way that you trade, what stocks you trade in, so it is something where the way the market develops which stocks end up with more volume, which stocks the way that the quoting behavior changes and could change even under any sort of SEC rules that come through, I think that it is something where you'll always see some movement around and as Bob said, I think that the first quarter was more extreme for BX, but BX being a strong marketplace for the lower priced stocks is something that will create some level of market data challenge within the formula, but it will be to a varying degree every quarter really.
So this would be the extreme but there will always be some impact.
- President, CEO
Okay, and then just one quick question.
- Analyst
I think Adena, if I heard you right and maybe I didn't get all of the information you put forth but it sounded like you expect a $6 million to $8 million benefit sequentially from the pricing actions that you took, and if that's kind of what you said, I think you said also market share would be flat sequentially.
How should we think about the volume growth assumption that gets you to those numbers?
- CFO
Well, I think we're not going to give any specific projections but I would say that as Bob had mentioned, volumes are up in April over the first quarter and if we continue to see a similar level recovery there along with the pricing moves we feel comfortable in saying that we should see a $6 million to $8 million sequential quarter-over-quarter increase in revenues for the US cash equities business and I did say assuming market share remains constant and I think that really remains relatively constant to the first quarter levels and so far, the pricing action has been fairly well received and I would say that our market share has been relatively consistent, so that's, we're not going to break it down completely but that's essentially where we're coming at and looking at the second quarter and beyond.
- President, CEO
I'll add a couple things.
With respect to the volume, the first quarter we averaged about 8.6 billion shares in US equities, April we've been averaging 9.7 and yesterday we did 10.8 so those are all positives.
With respect to the revenue item that we gave you for growth, it obviously represents a witches brew of different impacts and our motive is to not have the effect of the price increase be out there clear to everybody but to put it all together, but it's working very well I would say.
Operator
Our next question comes from Edward Ditmire with Mcguire.
- Analyst
A quick question on the market data you talked about a lower number of subscriptions along with the formulaic aspects.
Can you just clarify, were you talking about NASDAQ proprietary products or is the consolidated tape association pool been reset at lower levels?
- CFO
It really looks at some slightly lower populations in what we call the level one product which is the consolidated tape product and that product is really more indicative of overall industry populations, people in the financial industry, employees and it does tend to lag behind, so it goes on the way down and on the way back up it tends to lag behind the economic downturn in recovery.
Also what we also tend to see is some level of seasonality to the retail use of market data and that can swing things a little bit here and there but that impact was relatively minor both the professional and non-professional population decline was pretty small for Level 1 and in the proprietary products we've seen actually very continued strong demand and strong populations and it definitely has not followed the same trend for as the consolidated team.
- Analyst
Got you, and one follow-up question.
The financial reform package does seem to contemplate equity index derivatives falling under CFTC regulation as it reads today.
Can you talk about maybe implications both for your options exchanges but also if there's any potential to kind of regain revenues around licensing your indexes if that were to happen?
- President, CEO
Well, Ed's on the phone but my understanding is that Blanche Lincoln has stepped away from that position and in the revised Dodd-Lincoln Bill options would stay underneath the SEC, so Ed am I correct on that?
- General Counsel
Yes, you are.
- Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from Mike Carrier of Deutsche Bank .
please go
- Analyst
Thanks.
Adenia, actually two questions on the Market Technology segment.
Did you say that the $34 million would be a decent run rate for the rest of this year and then I guess the second question on it is there tends to be some big revenue numbers and not just for you guys but just across the industry in this market segment and I'm just trying to understand when I look at that $500 million in order value I think you did a good explanation in terms of the timing of that but just trying to understand, are these contracts over like five years, three years, just so we can kind of gauge expectations for 2011 and 2012?
- CFO
Sure.
So the $34 million was specific to the second quarter and each quarter will give you guidance for the next one but one thing I did say in my comments is that in 2010, we are anticipating a relatively I would say less chunkiness in the quarter-over-quarter revenues as we saw in 2009 and that was my comment, but we were only providing guidance for the second quarter right now.
In terms of the order value and the duration of the contracts, it does vary by customer.
Most contracts are probably in the five to seven year time frame but we do have some longer term contracts like 10 year contracts that we are starting to see come across and it was particularly with some of our long term clients, so I think that I would say on average you can look at a five to seven year time frame for the contract, the order value.
And as I said before, it's really comprised, the orders are comprised of licensing fees as well as maintenance and service contracts and in some cases facilities Management but not very often, and the way that the fees will work is if there's an annual service and maintenance contract that will be brought in annually but then the license fee will be amortized over the life of the contract.
- Analyst
Bob, just on IDCG, it seems like most players in the industry, just from a due diligence standpoint should be testing each of the platforms because there really aren't that many out there at this point.
So just trying to understand, the dealers, they're siding with LCH, because they've been using them for a while.
The buy side are kind of mixed but not in any rush.
I'm just trying to understand when we look at the different aspects of the different platforms, it seems like there's obviously the fees and you guys mentioned the competitiveness and then there's also the capital and margin requirements and based on what we understand it seems like CME and LCH, their margin requirements are based on a little bit more of a robust standard so VAR of like five to seven days versus IDCG using one to two, so just trying to understand, all of this is in flux so nothing is down pat, but just trying to understand from your guys' perspective, what's the differentiation that brings whether it's the buy side, probably the buy side to that platform.
- President, CEO
Right.
Well, with respect to the margin, we certainly believe that our margin is the proper margin and I know IDCG put out a paper on that last week, so we'll be happy to cover that with you offline in more detail.
With respect to our product offering and its core benefit is one, it's here, it's real today, but as I said previously, you have to recognize that it is in many ways fundamentally different than the other offerings, which has some appeal or less appeal depending upon who you are in the space, but it's important to recognize that it's meant to be in all platforms, it's meant for the FCM model to allow more entrants into the space so clearly, we're looking at a space where there are five players controlling 95% of the environment, and we think in the new world, that will change and our platform is welcoming to those new players in the world and similar to what we saw in the US equities that doesn't mean bad things for the five players and I think of the five players some of them certainly recognize that and it's a question of moving forward and it could be opportunities for all.
This market has the ability or will I should say transform and not look anything like it does today, several years after the regulatory change, so we're there as an all to all platform.
The only true all to all platform in the space, we're operational, and we're ready to go.
- Analyst
Okay, makes sense, thanks.
Operator
(Operator Instructions).
Our next question comes from Celeste Brown of Morgan Stanley.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
- President, CEO
How we doing?
- Analyst
Good.
How are you?
- President, CEO
Wonderful.
- Analyst
Just a quick housekeeping question first.
I assume you've bought the shares back late in the quarter, just wondering what your quarter end share count was?
- CFO
We bought -- our share count was, well, our average for the quarter was 214.7 million shares, our quarter end was around 213 or a little under 213 million shares, so we can give you an exact number after the call but I think that we did start it on March 2nd so just recognize we only had one month in the first quarter to buyback shares and that's how we also gave you the up-to-date number for essentially the end of April.
- Analyst
Great, thank you.
And then in terms of the NECC or I guess renamed NOCC acquisition, was this driven by reform as well?
It's certainly commodities are going to be one of the products that will need to be cleared in the new environment?
- President, CEO
Not so much in that you have to look at our experience now at NASDAQ OMX so we have acquired Nord Pool which basically has 100% share of power trading in the Nordics.
We were invited into the UK based upon the trade associations, wanted to bring some additional organization to the marketplace, and these individuals have spent their career.
We've charted them well over a year ago to look at the US market report back, and tell us where there are opportunities so as a result of that experience and that effort over the last year that we uncovered this opportunity and that's why we made the move.
- Analyst
Okay, great, thank you.
Operator
I'm showing that our final question comes from Daniel Harris of Goldman Sachs.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Yes, just last question on the access services, any change in what's going on with co-location on the equities front here in the US, that would be different from what we've been seeing trend the last few quarters?
- President, CEO
No.
I think our strong demand for co-location services, we have more than enough capacity to meet the demand in the quarters to come so we're very comfortable with our position.
You want to add anything?
- CFO
No.
- President, CEO
Okay, I thank everybody for their time here today.
We appreciate it and we look forward to talking to you certainly in this format next quarter and we will be available through the next days and weeks to answer any questions you may have so thank you.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference.
You may all disconnect and have a wonderful day.