微晶片科技 (MCHP) 2011 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good day, everyone.

  • Welcome to this Microchip Technology third quarter and fiscal year 2011 earnings results conference call.

  • As a reminder, today's call is being recorded.

  • At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Microchip's CFO, Mr.

  • Eric Bjornholt.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • - VP and CFO

  • Good afternoon, everyone.

  • During the course of this conference call, we will be making projections and other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the Company.

  • We wish to caution you that such statements are predictions, and that actual events or results may differ materially.

  • We refer you to our press release of today, as well as our recent filings with the SEC that identify important risk factors that may impact Microchip's business and results of operations.

  • In attendance with me today are Steve Sanghi, Microchip's President and CEO, Ganesh Moorthy, Microchip's COO, and Gordon Parnell, Vice President, Business Development and Investor Relations.

  • I will comment on our third quarter of fiscal year 2011 financial performance, and Steve and Ganesh will then give their comments on the results, discuss the current business environment, and discuss our guidance.

  • We will then be available to respond to specific investor and analyst questions.

  • We are including information in our press release on this conference call on various GAAP and non-GAAP measures.

  • We have posted a full GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation on the investor relations page of our website at www.Microchip.com, which we believe you will find useful when comparing GAAP and non-GAAP results.

  • I will now go through some the operating results for the December quarter, referring to gross margin and operating expense information on a non-GAAP basis, prior to the effects of share-based compensation and acquisition-related expenses.

  • Net sales in December quarter were towards the high end of our guidance, at $367.8 million, and were down sequentially 3.8% from net sales of $382.3 million in the immediately preceding quarter, and were up 47.1% from net sales of $250.1 million in the December 2009 quarter.

  • Non-GAAP gross margins were 59.8% in the December quarter, well above the high end of our guidance, and down marginally as compared to the 60.2% we achieved in the September quarter.

  • Non-GAAP operating expenses were 24.1% of sales, and non-GAAP operating income was 35.6% of sales.

  • Non-GAAP net income from continuing operations was $113.8 million, or $0.58 per diluted share, which is also at the high end of our guidance.

  • I want to point out to investors and analysts that fluctuations in Microchip's share price impact the diluted shares outstanding used in our earnings per share calculations.

  • The average share price of Microchip stock in the December quarter was significantly higher than the average share price in the September quarter.

  • This resulted in a higher share count, in part because incremental shares are included in the EPS denominator from Microchip's outstanding convertible debentures.

  • Dilution from the convertible occurs at average quarterly share prices above $29.04, which is the current conversion price.

  • The average price of Microchip's common stock in the December quarter was $33.21, and the stock is trading at higher levels than that today.

  • We have posted a schedule that shows what the incremental share count from the convertible debt will be at various share prices in the supplemental financial information section of our website, on the investor relations page.

  • This will be helpful to investors and analysts in the future, when trying to estimate the share count to use when modeling Microchip's earnings per share.

  • The increase in the share count used in the earnings per share calculation from the September to the December quarter negatively impacted Microchip's earning per share by about $0.013 on a non-GAAP basis.

  • Using a hypothetical average share price in the March quarter of $38 to calculate the additional dilutive effect from the convertible debt impacts Microchip's diluted earnings per share by about an additional $0.015 when compared to the dilutive effect from the convertible in the December quarter.

  • Investors and analysts should refer to the table on our website if they want to model the diluted shares outstanding using a different average share price for the March quarter.

  • On a full GAAP basis gross margins including share-based compensation and acquisition-related expenses, which includes a sell through of written up inventory and intangible amortization, were 58.8%.

  • Total operating expenses were $98.9 million, or 26.9% of sales, and include share-based compensation of $7.7 million, acquisition-related expenses of $1.9 million and $0.6 million in severance charges that are classified as a special charge within operating expenses.

  • GAAP net income from continuing operations was $101.9 million or $0.52 per diluted share.

  • There was a net loss from discontinued operations of $1.2 million in the December quarter.

  • In the December quarter, the non-GAAP tax rate was 12.4%, and the GAAP tax rate was 10.9%.

  • The tax rate was impacted by the retroactive reinstatement of the R&D tax credit, which favorably impacted the GAAP tax rate by $1.5 million, for credits generated in the quarters prior to December 2010.

  • The ongoing effects of the reinstated R&D tax credit were factored into our December 2010 tax rate and our forecast for the remainder of fiscal 2011.

  • Our tax rate is impacted by the mix of geographical profits and the percentage of our cash that is invested in tax-advantaged securities.

  • We expect our combined forward-looking effective tax rate to be about 12% to 12.5%.

  • To summarize the after-tax impact that the non-GAAP adjustments had on Microchip's earnings per share in the December quarter, share-based compensation was about $0.042, acquisition-related items were about $0.021, non-cash interest expense was about $0.006, and the benefit from the retroactive reinstatement of the R&D tax credit was about $0.008.

  • Microchip paid two dividends in the December quarter.

  • The first dividend was our normal dividend payment and was $0.344 per share.

  • The second dividend, which was paid on December 27 was an acceleration of the March 2011 dividend, due to the uncertainty around potential tax law changes beyond 2010, at the time of the dividend declaration.

  • Microchip's next dividend will be announced with our March 2011 quarterly results, and paid in June 2011.

  • Moving on to the balance sheet, Microchip's inventory as December 31, 2010, was $177.7 million, or 107 days, up ten days from the prior quarter levels.

  • We have stated that our internal target for inventory days is about 115, and we expect to continue to build our inventory levels in the March quarter to help us achieve this target,improve lead times, and support our customer's delivery requirements.

  • This has been a successful competitive advantage for Microchip over many cycles, and we expect similar positive results from our customers in the market.

  • Inventory at our distributors was 39 days, which is up 3 days from the prior quarter level.

  • At December 31, Microchip's accounts receivable balance was $187.3 million, a decrease of 7.6% from the balance as of the end of September.

  • Receivable balances are in great condition, with excellent payment performance continuing from our customers.

  • As of December 31, Microchip's cash and total investment position was approximately $1.57 billion,and was up $4.1 million from the prior quarter levels, even with Microchip paying $129.4 million in dividends during the quarter.

  • Our cash generation continues to be strong, and our total cash and investment position is projected to grow by approximately $125 million to $135 million in the March quarter.

  • Capital spending was approximately $34.2 million for the December quarter.

  • We are continuing to invest in equipment to support the revenue growth of our new product and technologies, and our capital expenditure forecast for fiscal 2011 is about $130 million.

  • Depreciation expense in the December quarter was $23.6 million, which was down from depreciation of $23.7 million in the September quarter.

  • I will now ask Ganesh to give his comments on the performance of the business in the December quarter.

  • Ganesh?

  • - EVP and COO

  • Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone.

  • Let's now take a closer look at the performance of our individual product lines, starting with microcontrollers.

  • Our microcontroller business performed better than we expected, with revenue only down 2.2% on a sequential basis, but were up 24% from the year-ago quarter.

  • We shipped our 9 billionth cumulative microcontroller in December, and finished calendar year 2010 shipping a record 1.3 billion microcontrollers.

  • For calendar year 2010, our overall microcontroller business was up 42.4%, over calendar year 2009.

  • Our 8-bit microcontroller business performed better than we expected, with a minimal sequential decline, and up significantly from the year-ago quarter.

  • Our 16-bit microcontroller business was down 2.6% sequentially, but was up 84% from the year-ago quarter.

  • For calendar year 2010, our 16-bit microcontroller business was up 113.6%, more than doubling over the calendar year 2009 revenue.

  • New customers and new designs continue to go into production.

  • As a number of volume 16-bit customers grew to over 3,300 customers.

  • Our 32-bit microcontroller product line, which took a pause in the September quarter, had another strong quarter of growth in the December quarter,up 45% on a sequential basis, achieving a new record, just as we have forecasted.

  • For calendar year 2010, our 32-bit microcontroller business was up 260%, more than tripling over the calendar year 2009 revenue.

  • The number of customers in volume production grew by over 25% to 524, as we continue to build a broad base of customers to grow our 32-bit business.

  • Moving to development tools, we shipped over 40,000 development tools in the December quarter.

  • Our development tool sales remain an excellent leading indicator of continued strong design-in activity and acceptance of our solutions by our customers, and the continued trend of strong development tool sales bodes well for our future growth.

  • Now moving to our analog products.

  • Our analog business was down 4.7% sequentially but was up 67% from the year ago quarter.

  • For calendar year 2010, our analog business was up 93.4%, almost double the calendar year 2009 revenue.

  • We are very pleased for the design win and revenue momentum of our analog business, and we continue to introduce a steady stream of innovative new products, which we expect will continue to contribute to strong revenue growth in the coming quarters.

  • Now moving on to the memory business.

  • This business is comprised of our fleet of E-Squared memory products as well as our SuperFlash memory products, and together they were down 13.5% on a sequential basis.

  • We continue to run our memory business in a disciplined fashion that maintains consistent profitability, enables our licensing business, and serves our microcontroller customers to complete their solutions.

  • With that, let me now pass it to Steve for some general comments, as well as our guidance going forward.

  • Steve?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Thank you, Ganesh, and good afternoon, everyone.

  • Today, I would like to first comment on the performance of our SST business units in our most recent quarter, and then I will reflect on the overall December quarter results, and finally I will talk about our guidance for the March 2011 quarter.

  • So let's begin with some comments on the SST divisions.

  • Our licensing revenue was up 10.3% sequentially, and reached another all-time record of $19.1 million in the December quarter.

  • When we acquired SST, some investors and analysts had shown concern regarding how the licensing business would perform under Microchip.

  • Their obvious concern was that a significant portion of the licensing business was with Microchip's competitors in the microcontroller business.

  • After acquiring SST, we created a firewall around the licensing business and decided to manage it at an arm's length to our microcontroller divisions.

  • We still have access to advanced SuperFlash technology for our microcontrollers, but the competitor's information is not accessible by our microcontroller divisions.

  • This has relieved any concerns, and our licensing business has continued to flourish.

  • The real proof of sustainable growth of our licensing business is not just in the existing business.

  • The real proof is in the new licenses signed.

  • Last quarter, we signed six new licensing agreements.

  • Three of these agreements were in Europe, one in China, one in Japan, and one elsewhere in Asia.

  • Three of the agreements were with IDMs.

  • Two were with silicon foundries and one was with a design services company.

  • Three of these deals were incremental licenses with companies that we already do business with.

  • The three other deals were with brand-new companies that we have never done licensing business with.

  • As of the start of the January 2011, there were several additional new deals in the funnel.

  • Since January 1, one of these deals have already been signed.

  • Proper restructuring of the licensing division under Microchip with focused resources as well as freedom to pursue more creative business models has allowed acceleration of prospecting and deal closure.

  • Therefore, it is quite clear that we are succeeding in this licensing business across a very broad front around the globe, and with IDMs and foundries alike.

  • The central attraction continues to be the SuperFlash technology, which is the premiere flash technology available for embedded control.There are two kinds of companies in embedded control.

  • The ones that are using SuperFlash technology, and the ones who should be using it.

  • Our SuperFlash technology has penetrated about 25% of the total available market, and there is much more room to grow.

  • Now during the last quarter we also announced that Microchip had decided to retain the SuperFlash memory and RF divisions of SST.

  • In the December quarter, we continued to make outstanding progress in improving the operating margins for the SuperFlash memory division and the RF divisions through hard work in partnering with customers, targeting markets, focusing on pricing, improving manufacturing costs, and incorporating these divisions into the Microchip business structure.

  • The gross margin improvements have been excellent and we fully expect these divisions to continue to drive Microchip's overall gross margins to high levels.

  • You can see that we have we have had a laser focus on improving these divisions' gross margins, just like we have done with all of Microchip's product lines throughout Microchip's history.

  • We decided to retain these product lines as ongoing businesses of Microchip as we more fully understood the opportunities it presented and the improvements that we could achieve.

  • We believe that significant margin improvements are still ahead of us.

  • SST divisions were accretive to Microchip's non-GAAP earnings by about $0.09 per share for the December quarter.

  • We expect SST to add approximately $0.32 to Microchip's non-GAAP earnings for fiscal year 2011, and for fiscal year 2012, we expect the SST businesses to add about $0.40 to our earnings per share.

  • As I reflect on the overall December quarter, it was an excellent quarter for Microchip.

  • Our sales were better than the middle point of our guidance.

  • We beat the overall gross margin target by 60 basis points.

  • We beat the non-GAAP EPS target by $0.01, despite an additional $0.013 per share impact, due to the higher share count.

  • Our core microcontroller business was down only 2.2% sequentially.

  • And our 32-bit microcontroller business achieved another record with a gain of 45.5% sequentially.

  • Our 32-bit microcontroller is almost exactly following the performance of our 16-bit microcontroller business with now ten quarters since the introduction.

  • We continue to be pleased with the penetration we are making in both our 16-bit as well as 32-bit microcontroller businesses.

  • The December quarter also marked our 81st consecutive profitable quarter, and is a testimony to the resiliency of the business modal that we have fine-tuned over time.

  • Now, looking back on calendar year 2010, we had one of our best growth years ever, with over 64% growth as compared to calendar year 2009.

  • If you recall, a year ago, we guided to 26% revenue growth from calendar year 2009 to calendar year 2010.

  • We also guided to a non-GAAP EPS of $1.50 for calendar year 2010.

  • At that time our yearly guidance was seen as overly optimistic.

  • I apologize for not guiding more precisely, and for beating the numbers by achieving 64% revenue growth, and non-GAAP EPS of $2.26.

  • Even if you take the EPS accretion delivered by SST divisions out of the numbers, we still achieved a non-GAAP EPS of $2.02 versus our forecast of $1.50.

  • Enough said.

  • As we enter calendar year 2011, we believe we are exceptionally well-positioned for continued growth in all of our strategic businesses.

  • I will now provide guidance for March 2011 quarter.

  • We saw a mild inventory correction in the December quarter, as we said in our last earnings conference call, we expected this correction to be mild and be completed after one quarter.

  • With improving lead times in our business, our longer-term backlog visibilities decreasing, since customers are no longer placing orders many months out.

  • Therefore book-to-bill ratio is less than 1 with the December quarter at 0.77.

  • However, as you have seen before, book-to-bill ratio has no correlation to the quarterly performance.

  • 1.41 book-to-bill ratio in June quarter last year was as meaningless as 0.77 book-to-bill ratio for the last quarter.

  • The backlog shippable in the March quarter is very healthy.

  • We will also see some seasonal impact of the Lunar New Year in Asia.

  • Considering all that we expect our net sales for the March quarter to be flat to up 3% sequentially.

  • We expect our non-GAAP gross margin to be 60% plus-minus 0.1% for March quarter.

  • And we expect non-GAAP earnings per share to be between $0.56 and $0.58.

  • Earnings per share assumes an average Microchip stock price of $38 in the quarter, which adds 6.1 million shares to our share count from the December quarter.

  • The total net earnings in dollars at the mid-point of the guidance, I'd expect it to be up by about $1.2 million or $0.006 at constant share count.

  • Given all the complications of accounting for a large acquisition, including purchase inventory write-up, amortization of intangibles, restructuring charges, and sale of non-core businesses, like many other companies have done, Microchip will continue to provide guidance and track its results on non-GAAP basis.

  • We believe that non-GAAP results will provide more meaningful comparison to prior quarters and we request that the analyst continue to report their non-GAAP estimates to First Call.

  • With that, operator, would you please poll for questions?

  • Operator

  • Yes, thank you.(Operator Instructions).And our first question comes from Chris Caso from Susquehanna Financial.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, thank you.

  • I wonder if you could give a little more color around how you got to the guidance levels that you put out for the March quarter, perhaps, give us some indication for what you have been seeing with regards to turns business, and what you are expecting and with regard to turns in the March quarter.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Well, the question circle around the book-to-bill ratio and turns and all that.

  • And if you go back last year, when the lead times were longer and our current lead times are four to six weeks on majority of our products.

  • When the lead times were longer, you are not only getting the backlog for the current quarter, you are getting backlog for the entire next quarter because if the lead times are much longer people have to put their orders and get the space in line.

  • As the lead times have come in, the entire impact that we have seen is, we are no longer getting orders for four months, five months, six months out.

  • But the current backlog is very healthy compared to the prior quarter, and we are getting the appropriate amount of turns needed, which are strong.

  • Turns are quite strong, because parts availability is there and people need the parts, and they need to place the orders ahead of time.

  • When you kind of look at all of that, the quarter seems quite normal.

  • - Analyst

  • In other words, it sounds like it's a really question of the longer lead orders are coming off, but the orders within the next sort of 90 days or so, seem to be maintaining a reasonable pace.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Exactly.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from Chris Danely with JPMorgan.

  • - Analyst

  • Actually, Steve, just a quick clarification.

  • Are you saying that your 32-bit microcontroller revenue has been tracking the 16-bit microcontroller revenue for the same time period, could you please repeat that time period?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • So 32-bit microcontrollers were introduced ten quarters ago, 2.5 years.

  • So if I start from the first quarter of 16-bit and line it up against the first quarter of 32 bit, after ten quarters, 32-bit is doing exactly what 16-bit did.

  • - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thanks.

  • As my follow-up, it sounds like you guys can continue to improve the gross margin.

  • Can you give us a sense of what the drivers would be after this quarter, and then maybe throw in a little-bit of color on the OpEx drivers after this quarter, too.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • So gross margin is within smaller distance of really longer-term guidance of 61% plus/minus.

  • - VP and CFO

  • 61%, 62%.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Yes, 61 to 62%.

  • It's not like it's a huge distance away.

  • It's 150 basis points or so away.

  • There are a lot of small drivers with no single driver.

  • Obviously, we are ramping up our facilities to provide for growth.

  • After the current quarter, we have two very strong back-to-back quarters coming up, June and September, which are seasonally very strong quarter for Microchip and we expect them again this year.

  • Currently, we are ramping all of our facilities both for fabs, assembly and test.

  • We are continuing to improve the gross margin of SuperFlash memory division which has improved dramatically, quite dramatically.

  • We don't break it out, but quite dramatically since we bought it and it was up again last quarter, and will be up again this quarter.

  • The licensing business is doing very well, which is overall accretive to gross margin.

  • And just a lots of normal things, the depreciation rolling off.

  • High absorption.

  • Some shrink, price management and all these other functions that are incrementally accreting the gross margin every quarter.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from James Schneider with Goldman Sachs.

  • - Analyst

  • Good afternoon.

  • Thank you for taking my question.

  • I was wondering if you could speak to linearity in the quarter, and seems like relative to your original guidance and your guidance update, it seems to be pretty much right in line.

  • If you get any commentary on how we went from October to December, that would be helpful.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Ganesh?

  • - EVP and COO

  • I don't think there was anything abnormal as we went through the quarter.

  • And I think a normal December quarter has a slower finish as we go into December, has a stronger start comparatively in October and it performed exactly to that.

  • - Analyst

  • Fair enough.

  • And then relative to your OpEx levels, I think going back through history, you have done a very good job of maintaining the OpEx at low percentage of sales and I think we were toward the low end of your circle range by quite a bit.

  • Can you talk about, as we move through this calendar year, whether if you expect that ratio to increase at all, given what you expect in terms of the overall revenue run rate, or will you be able to maintain this level here.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Well, our longer term guidance still has been 25% to 26%?

  • - VP and CFO

  • 24% to 26%.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • 24 to 26%.

  • Kind of a wider gap.

  • The reason that the expenses are on the lower end of the target is because of just dramatic growth.

  • Achieving 64% growth in the year, you couldn't add expenses if you wanted to.

  • We are well-funded.

  • All the divisions, all the product lines are really very well-staffed and we are adding people rapidly to further invest into strategic product lines.

  • So as the growth happens, and as these additional people come on board, I think it will track.

  • Overall, we are on the low end of the overall percentage of revenue and expenses.

  • And over time it will migrate toward the middle.

  • I don't know the time frame because that will depend on the growth.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • We will go next to Terence Whalen with Citi.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you for taking my question.

  • I think the fiscal 2011 CapEx is $130 million.

  • I was wondering if you could perhaps comment on your expectations and your needs for fiscal 2012 Cap Ex and also just briefly comment on whether some of the depreciation treatment accounting-wise is influencing any of your purchasing decisions in calendar 2011.

  • Thank you.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Well, we don't have a fiscal year 2012 capital number for you today.

  • We are putting together a fiscal year 2012 plan internally in the Company as we speak.

  • We have a full calendar that is starting with the product lines and revenue assumptions and then going through the capacity and the capital needed to provide that and then the expenses and all that, so we don't have a fiscal year 2012 fiscal year comment for you today.

  • In terms of -- what's the change in depreciation that will impact our decision?

  • - VP and CFO

  • There is nothing on the accounting side that's going to change how we think about investing.

  • It we will continue to invest as we see it appropriate in the business.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • The change is that it's all written off in one year.

  • - VP and CFO

  • Acceleration of depreciation --

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • So this is for the tax purposes.

  • Not for the GAAP.

  • - VP and CFO

  • That's not going to drive --

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Not going to drive any decisions for us.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Then perhaps as my follow-up, you alluded to a successful quarter for the licensing business.

  • Steve, you mentioned that several new customers as well as several new contracts with the existing customers in the licensing business.

  • Can you talk a little bit about the outlook for that business over the next several years.

  • Are there any patent cliffs that could affect the revenue rate of that business?Will that be a strategic area of growth for you?

  • If you can just comment how you think about that in the longer term?

  • Thank you.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • It's absolutely a strategic area of growth.

  • The licensing stream builds over a period of time.

  • When you sign a license, it usually means nothing in the immediately.

  • You usually have some payments that come to us over step payments as technology is implemented.

  • Then as the customer's revenue ramp and there's royalty streams so it's kind of like builds up over sometime one, two, three, four years.

  • And several of these licenses are going really together in parallel.

  • Over time the business grows.

  • We currently don't see really any issues in being able to continue to grow the business.

  • The licensing business did record in September quarter.

  • Did record again in December quarter.

  • And we are fairly confident that it will do record again in the current March quarter.

  • Operator

  • We will go next to Tim Luke with Barclays Capital.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you so much.

  • Steve, you were referencing that you feel that you are likely to return to some strong growth in the June and September periods.

  • I was wondering if you could feel for what areas you are looking forward to seeing the sort of stronger growth from, as you move through the year.

  • And what are some of the factors are and sounding that you feel reasonably confident about the outlook for June and September.

  • Thank you so much.

  • - EVP and COO

  • So you have seen some of the momentum that our product lines have been building,In addition to a core 8-bit business that's growing, we have a much faster growing 16-, 32-bit and analog product lines.

  • And we have seen the design momentum that we have on those products as we go into our seasonally strong June and September quarters, we expect we will contribute strong growth.

  • We are not really market-segment-centric in many of these things.

  • We have designs that are in many, many different applications and markets and we don't rely on any one market or any one application to drive the growth.

  • - Analyst

  • And you mentioned, if I may, the usual lunar year impact.

  • When do you feel that and what is the linearity associated with that?

  • Does it mean the orders sort of slow at the beginning of February?

  • What is your expectation now?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • We are in the lunar new year right now.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • And the people return to work I think around the 8th of February.

  • So usually when the lunar new year falls early like it is falling this year, it's actually very good, because people come back after that.

  • You still have the rest of the quarter left, with strong orders and filling the pipeline and all of that.

  • Sometimes lunar new year falls very late.

  • It has fallen as late as early March, but even late February, and when that happens, it gets little more tricky.

  • And you have to get all of the orders before people leave for the lunar new year, because you don't have enough time to build in the right mix after that.

  • So this time, the lunar new year is early, so I think it should really work out really good.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • We will go next to Sumit Dhanda with Citadel Securities.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, hi.

  • A couple of questions.

  • Steve, your commentary on the turns bookings being relatively strong.

  • I guess the question was, in terms of your outlook for the March quarter, is the expectation that you have enough backlog, and that is the primary reason that you should be able to ship to that revenue outlook despite the low book-to-bill?

  • Or is the jump in turns bookings the primary driver of the seasonal or the positive outlook?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Well, the book-to-bill ratio we report is the bookings we get in the quarter for shipment over the following one year, divided by the billings or the revenue in the quarter.

  • I don't know how everybody else does it.

  • But it's reasonably standard that you take all the bookings you get in the quarter, which are shippable sometime over the next year, and divide it by the billings of the current quarter.

  • When the lead times are long, you are getting large amount of bookings for the second and third quarter out in time, and you're dividing it by the current quarter's revenue.

  • Book-to-bill ratio is unreasonably large, like it was 1.41 and 1.36.

  • Now in that kind of environment, your backlog is filled up for the current quarter, because you don't have enough lead time to ship it to the current quarter.

  • Most of the bookings are getting out and in time.

  • When the business environment transitions, and you have much shorter lead time, then all of the outer bookings dry up because people have plenty of time to place those orders.

  • You aren't getting those other bookings.

  • And if the current quarter backlog is quite healthy, which it is in that transition, because you are coming from a fairly strong backlog, then you are dividing small number of bookings largely for the current quarter, divided by the full revenue.

  • And then the equation's worst is you have a very low book-to-bill ratio.

  • - Analyst

  • I understand.

  • Maybe I don't know if you have this information handy, is there a sort of to make an apples-to-apples comparison is there a 90 day book-to-bill so to speak, that you could share with us?

  • - VP and CFO

  • We don't track it that way.

  • I think maybe to answer your question, we have strong backlog for this quarter.

  • We see the turns coming in at a rate that we need to hit the guidance we have given you, and that's why we have the guidance we have.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • One quick follow-up for you, Eric.

  • You said distribution days were up three to 39, but my recollection was it was 34 last quarter.

  • Maybe I misheard the 39 as a 37?

  • - VP and CFO

  • 39 is the correct number.

  • - Analyst

  • 39 is the correct number.

  • Thank you so much.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).And we will go next to Kevin Cassidy with Stifel Nicolaus.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, thank you for taking my questions.

  • On the 32-bit rebound that you saw in the December quarter, can you give more details what that was, if certain markets or was it just product coming through the pipeline?

  • - EVP and COO

  • It's a result of an accumulation of designs that we have been harvesting for some time.

  • When we reported for the September quarter I said we have in a smaller business, more lumpy revenue that comes along.

  • We have no concerns at all about what happened in the September quarter, and as we expected, the designs continue to grow.

  • The customers who may have take a pause in September came back in for growth in December.

  • And overall it's growing across -- we have over 500 customers now, involving production on the 32-bit.

  • It's growing across a broadening base of customers, which in time, will make it more predictable business in terms of quarter-over-quarter sequential growth.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • The backlog on 16 and 32-bit looks healthy so we should have another outstanding quarter in March.

  • - Analyst

  • Great.

  • In general, are you seeing any pressure on I guess the cost of your materials going up?

  • Any issues there?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Well, it's a semiconductor industry.

  • Constant challenges in the last year, we have absorbed the price of gold, copper, raw materials going up.

  • Fuel charges, energy costs, gas and other, but at the same time you have yield improvements.

  • You have depreciation falling off.

  • You have value added in your products.

  • And features and others you can manage ASP, and that's the basically the semiconductor business.

  • And all those things average out.

  • Would we like a lower gold price?

  • Would we like lower material prices?

  • Yes.

  • Those are not the things we can control.

  • We have a very, very strong cost reduction effort which it keeps up with these things and still produce the gross margins.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • We will go next to John Barton with Cowen.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Steve, if you could update us with the touch sensor market strategy for that market, please?

  • - EVP and COO

  • So, there are -- the touch sensor market has a broad set of applications where that feature is required.

  • Where Microchip has chosen to focus is in all of the broad sense of applications that are not in cell phone and not in tablet.So in embedded markets across the types of markets where our microcontrollers get used, touch sense is being added and in many of those applications, we have the exact solution that they need and we are growing faster than anybody else in those applications.

  • However, we don't believe that the long-term characteristics in the cell phone business is necessarily one that creates sustainable and predictable business results, and so we have chosen not to be in those areas.

  • We are doing very well in every -- all the other applications that need touch.

  • - Analyst

  • And Steve, you expressed in your prepared statements some disappointment you didn't accurately forecast 2010.

  • So using what you have learned from that pleasant mistake, what are your thoughts in 2011?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • What I learned is that whatever I say, it is not going to be believed, so I decided not to say anything.

  • - Analyst

  • But if I promise to believe, will you say something?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • You may promise to believe, just constant reports which tell us that we will underperform and we have constantly beaten those expectations.

  • Really no point in continually belaboring 2012 forecast.

  • We will just deliver the results.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • We will go next to Mark Lipacis with Morgan Stanley.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • If you normalize for the double dividend payment this quarter, looks like your dividend payout over the last couple of quarters was about as low as it's been in at least two years or so.

  • And I was wondering if you're embarking on a strategy or conscious decision to try to build cash, and if so, what would be the use for that cash.

  • Thank you.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Well, I think if you go back in history, we always said that we were going to rapidly grow the dividend, get to a healthy level, and then from there, just grow it on a very, very slow basis.

  • Not double, triple it quickly, but grow it rapidly which we did in the earlier years.

  • And then just slightly continue to grow, which we are doing right now by $0.25 share every quarter.

  • Now as far as the use of cash is concerned, there are the normal users of cash.

  • There is dividend, acquisitions and there are normal uses in business.

  • As I earlier said, our business is a very well-funded and we are generating huge cash from operations every quarter.

  • So investment in our business is not using up cash.

  • Actually, it's generating additional cash, which leaves a build-up of the cash, slow dividend increase, and essentially opportunistic acquisitions like the great acquisition we did with SST.

  • Meanwhile, the cash will continue to grow.

  • Going significantly past the current dividend level in -- doesn't really buy a whole lot.

  • Dividend is the highest in the semiconductor industry.

  • I believe there is only one company, TSMC, which is not quite an IDM, which may have a higher percentage dividend.

  • I haven't compared recently, but I think they were.

  • But compared to anybody else, we have the highest dividend so just continue to grow that.

  • We don't believe it's the right thing to do.

  • - Analyst

  • That's helpful.

  • Thank you.

  • And if I may ask a follow-up.

  • When you look at the growth in your 16- and 32-bit businesses, doubling and more than tripling, is there a particular vertical market that is driving the growth where you are seeing the particular demand for the products?

  • Thank you.

  • - EVP and COO

  • There are no particular vertical markets that we either focus on or that are necessarily driving that growth.

  • It's a pretty broad based growth.

  • If you look at customers-wise, there are over 500 customers on the 32-bit.

  • Over 3300 customers on the 16-bit and these are volume customers, and typically when you have volume customers at a certain level, there is two to three times that many that are customers in the incubation stage of developing new designs.

  • When you have such a broad swathe of customers, there's no single application or market that drives the growth.

  • That's the way we like it, by the way.

  • - Analyst

  • And so it's fair to say that the vertical market profile of 16- and 32-bit is similar to 8-bit.

  • Is that fair?

  • - EVP and COO

  • Similar.

  • They may be a small percentages here and there that change, but in general the profile is very similar.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • And we will go next to Steven Eliscu with UBS.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, thank you.

  • This is Steve Eliscu for Uche Orji, and just first wanted to ask on the touch controller market, I know you have talked about not wanting to pursue the cell phone and tablet markets.

  • As they gain scale, that could give them an advantage in other markets, such as industrial.

  • What are you doing to potentially offset those advantages that they may have.

  • - EVP and COO

  • We aren't aware of any particular advantage that they have that is giving them scale.

  • Obviously there are markets that have certain characteristics that we like.

  • Our products work extremely well in the markets that we are going after, for the applications that we are going after.

  • There are no technical challenges that we are seeing.

  • It's just work to go support the large group of customers and to build a productive business that design sustainable and profitable.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Steve, this is not any different than historical use of microcontrollers in the cell phone, where we did not focus on, which is everywhere else, and you could have asked that question ten years ago.

  • You aren't in cell phone with all of that high volume, competitors and others who have largely dominated the cell phone will get an advantage or whatever, and they will have it in the other market.

  • Really hasn't changed that way.

  • The cell phones are unpredictable short life cycle, lower gross margin and they always, always get packaged into ASIC, in the first couple of models not, but maybe the second design will, ASIC will take that in and then it will not be a micro.

  • Versus the places where we are in, industrial, automotive, consumer, we probably have over 500 customers in production today.

  • In all sorts of applications.

  • The margins are significantly higher.

  • The lifetime of the design is much longer.

  • Not ready to get packaged in the next design into an ASICs, there are all of these advantages that we like.

  • To do it given volume, you have to serve ten, 15, 20 time more customers.

  • It's like getting $20 million business at one customer versus getting $20 million business at 100 customers.

  • We excel at serving hundreds of customers.

  • That's where we make the margins.

  • That's our business model and always has been.

  • - Analyst

  • That's understood and appreciated that you reviewed that.

  • I guess the angle I was looking at was in terms of your large screen resistive and your inductive technologies.

  • How those are potentially augmenting the capacitive touch technology -- touch controllers that you are focused on for a specific sub segment.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Majority of our large portion of our revenue today is capacitive touch screens.We have it in resistive also, but we are very competitive technology on capacitive touch screens.

  • And I think I have said that before.

  • I think two of our competitors always win the cell phone and we win everything else.

  • Pretty much.

  • It's easy to get numbers on tablets and numbers on cell phone and smart phones and screen touch and all that.

  • That's very easy to analyze, because you can get easily the numbers.

  • You won't get easily the numbers on touch sensors everywhere else, on postage meters and thermostats and DVDs and TVs and push buttons which have touch phones and all that we got all.

  • That that's in production in high volume in a lot of places.

  • We are making huge revenue.

  • But it's harder to analyze, harder to get numbers and we like that.

  • That's why we are successful.

  • - Analyst

  • That's helpful.

  • Let me switch gears and ask about 32-bit.

  • Clearly you are getting some nice growth but what are you doing in terms of your sales and applications for us to get them oriented to the right customers.

  • I understand the segments are similar to your 8- and 16-bit segments, but I would imagine that some of the customers are new customers with new requirements you may not have seen in the past.

  • How are you making sure that they can win more often than not.

  • - EVP and COO

  • It's a good question.

  • I think we have for the longest time new customers are an integral part of our sales process.

  • Even when we had eight, there was an upper end of 8-bit that was new.

  • When we had 16 it was -- and we had 32.

  • So we are constantly going after new customers, and learning in the process, what we may not have that we need to improve on.

  • But the 32-bit in particular, if you remember from the days when we were just in 16-bit, we used to report that we played and we were winning against other 32-bit competitors.

  • We have been in the market and we have seen the customer requirements from the days when we were just for 16-bit only.

  • We continue to evolve our tools, our software, our product capabilities, our application nodes, our technical support.

  • The whole field sales force augmentation that we did.

  • For a number of years, things we did to retool our capability to be successful in 16-bit are now paying off, not just the 16-bit but for the 32 bit.

  • - Analyst

  • That's really helpful.

  • One last quick question.

  • On just the Board's thought on share repurchases.

  • I realize you're opportunistic but are you thinking that just to hold back continued increases in share count, assuming the share price continues to rise?

  • Or would you like to actually see the share count get back under 200?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Well, I think we fundamentally do not believe in the strategy of continuously of buying shares at all levels.

  • And just trying to dollar cost average it, or something like that.

  • And I have said that on this conference call before.

  • That I personally own stocks of lots of other technology companies that have bought the billions of dollars of stock, billions and billions of dollars of stock.

  • Large technology companies over ten years, having no effect on the stock.

  • So Microchip does stock buybacks very opportunistically when we believe the stock is undervalued, and the Street has thrown the baby out with the bath water which seemed to happen more often than we would like.

  • In 2008 in the middle of the crisis, the stock was $16 and people were calling it to $12.

  • That was the last time we bought stock.

  • And you can see where the stock is today.

  • And there was a great return on our investment.

  • - Analyst

  • That's helpful.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).And we will go next to Ian Ing with Gleacher & Company.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Calling for Doug Freedman, here.

  • Your SST business, where are you in training your sales and FA teams to better sell licensing and SuperFlash and uncover incremental opportunities?

  • Is something you are benefiting from already, or that lies ahead.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • So, the Microchip sales team does not sell licensing.

  • There is a fire wall around the licensing business.

  • This doesn't need a broad distributor and chain of sales force, because we largely go sell it to the foundry.

  • We sell it to the IDMs, and other design services companies, and these are not the kind of people our sales people call on.

  • Our sales people call on original equipment manufacturers trying to sell our microcontrollers and our analog products.

  • And our sales force should not be going and selling it to our competitors, our technology.

  • The sales force for licensing business is totally separate.

  • It's firewalled.

  • It's not a very large sales force.

  • It doesn't need a large sales force, because you are dealing with handful of licenses at any one point in time.

  • So it's totally firewalled.

  • It's totally separate and the rest of the SST business, the RF business, the SuperFlash memory business is integrated and our sales force is trained and is selling those products today.

  • - Analyst

  • Understand.

  • Thanks.

  • And last quarter, I think you had a series of international masters conferences.

  • Is there any read in terms of the broad-based economy.

  • Things like customer travel, registration, other activities?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • We had record attendance in our masters conferences in Scottsdale, which was in August.

  • In India, which was last year.

  • In China.

  • We also did one in Brazil.

  • So the attendance is record attendance everywhere.

  • And obviously it's driven by good prospects, great products.

  • A lot of new products in 8, 16, 32, analog.

  • So people come to learn what they don't know and we have a lot to offer, usually that drives the attendance as much as the economy.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you, Steve.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • You're welcome.

  • Operator

  • We will go next to Ray Rund with Shaker Investments.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you for taking my question.

  • Steve, I was curious, has your success with 16- and 32-bit necessitated any changes in your fab process technology thinking?

  • Are you content to keep these types of products in foundries?

  • Or do you think at some point in the future you may want to take them inside?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • We are not making them exclusively in the foundries.

  • Nor are we making them exclusively inside.

  • It's a hybrid today.

  • It's product-by-product.

  • And some products you know may have characteristics of limited size or performance requirement that we may not have inside and others we can do inside.

  • So all of the 16, 32 business is neither inside nor outside.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • And just want to say congratulations on a good quarter.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • And we will go next to Craig Ellis with Caris & Company.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you for taking my question.

  • This is Brett Piira for Craig.

  • Can you give us any color on regional strength and weaknesses in the quarter?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • The March quarter or the December?

  • - Analyst

  • Just reported, December.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • So in December quarter, what was very strong was Europe.

  • It's usually a seasonally very weak quarter for Europe, because of the holidays, their Christmas holidays is longer than anybody else in the world.

  • But Europe had a strong economy, driven by Germany.

  • And we did very, very well in Europe.

  • Everywhere else was normal, Europe was the exception.

  • - Analyst

  • Maybe broadly, normally you talk about gaining some share.

  • How is your market share looking across the microcontroller?

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • So based on the numbers that we see, we believe last year, we gained market share in 8, 16, 32 and analog in all of our strategic product lines.

  • Our 8-bit microcontroller did all time record sales in September quarter.

  • Was down very marginally in the last quarter,December quarter,like the others were.

  • And when the numbers come out, 2010 numbers will confirm that.

  • But the level of growth we had on 2010 was incredible on the 8-bit.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you and congratulations.

  • Operator

  • This concludes our Q&A session.

  • I would like to turn the call back to Mr.

  • Steve Sanghi.

  • - President, CEO and Chairman of the Board

  • Thank you.

  • So we will see some of you at the Thomas Weisel conference, which we are going to, and presenting on the tenth of February, I believe.

  • Tenth of February.

  • And we will see some of you on the road again.

  • In various R&D shows we will be conducting this quarter and next.

  • So thank you very much.

  • Bye-bye.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's call.We thank you for your participation.