羅技 (LOGI) 2016 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Good day, and welcome to the Logitech first-quarter financial results conference call. (Operator Instructions). This call is being recorded for replay purposes and may not be reproduced in whole or in part without written authorization from Logitech. I would like to introduce your host for today's call, Mr. Joe Greenhalgh, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Treasurer at Logitech.

Welcome to the Logitech conference call to discuss the Company's financial results for the first quarter ended June 30, 2015.

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Joining us today from Lausanne are Bracken Darrell, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Vincent Pilette, Chief Financial Officer. I'd now like to turn the call over to Bracken.

Thanks, Joe, and thanks all of you for joining us.

Just an upfront note that the sales performance we refer to will be in constant currency.

Q1 gives us a good start to the fiscal year. The growth momentum we saw accelerate through last year continued right into Q1. Our retail sales grew 7%.

While our normal trend since we started down this strategic path has been negative growth in the profit maximization categories and double-digit growth in our growth categories, this quarter we saw relative balance. Both the growth and the profit maximization categories grew upper single digits. That's better than you'd expect for profit maximization and not as good a growth.

Vincent and I will take you through this deeper now. First I'll drill down into the categories within our growth portfolio.

Our growth portfolio grew 9% in Q1, and overall continues to have a strong and improving product lineup in growing categories. Our newest edition, video collaboration, continued to perform very strongly and was our fastest growing category in constant currency in Q1.

One of the key growth drivers was the Logitech ConferenceCam Connect. That's the very well received $500 portable all-in-one video conferencing solution. We also continue to see strong sales from the $1,000 Logitech ConferenceCam CC3000e that launched well over a year ago.

Our mobile speakers continue to grow very strongly. This time, our new speaker UE MEGABOOM -- our new premium speaker UE MEGABOOM was the new star. In fact, this highest priced speaker became the second best selling product in the whole Company less than six months after launch, and with constrained supply.

UE BOOM continues to be an outstanding performer, and again was the top selling product in the Company. That's worth repeating. The number one and number two products in the Company in sales this quarter were the BOOM and MEGABOOM, a real tribute to the strength of our product innovation driven off our design focus.

But there's more in store, so to speak, in mobile speakers, as you probably know by now. Barely evident yet in the numbers is another new Bluetooth speaker, UE ROLL. It's an amazing little powerhouse speaker. It began shipping very late in the quarter. UE ROLL features a go-anywhere waterproof build that carries the essence of the original UE BOOM and is made to be part of today's ultra-mobile lifestyle.

With UE ROLL, BOOM and MEGABOOM, our mobile speaker offering is excellent, and we are well positioned to continue delivering strong sales growth and share gains.

Gaming was flat this quarter. There were two primary factors that held gaming back. The first was the steep sales decline of our legacy steering wheels. This was expected, and a result of our transition to the newer wheels we announced last month. New wheels for the PC, Xbox and PlayStation will begin shipping in the next few months.

The second driver of the slower growth in overall gaming was lower PC gaming sales in the Americas, particularly in mice, where we've had such a strong growth trajectory in the past year. Lower category growth in the quarter was, we believe, temporary, but we'll watch it closely.

Generally speaking, regardless of what happens to the gaming mouse category in the US, we have new gaming products on the way, particularly in the second half, that should generate robust growth for fiscal year 2016 in total.

Our tablet and other accessories category continued to perform poorly. While the decline in the tablet market is no longer news, as a result, neither is our decline in tablet accessories. We have begun the process to simplify our lineups and pace our innovation to a slower moving and smaller market, but you know us by now and I assure you we have innovation ahead there too.

Our profit maximization category looked like a growth category this quarter, with sales of PC peripherals up by 8%, even though PC shipments declined almost 10%. We believe we appeal to the enormous installed base of PC users with simply great innovation.

The best example of this innovation can be seen in pointing devices, which grew by 10%. This growth was driven largely by the success of our flagship mouse, the MX Master, which sells for $99. Both consumers and the trade press give this a huge -- well, gave this a huge welcome, and its reception has been much, much stronger than any of its predecessors. It's perhaps gotten the best press for a mouse we've ever seen, and dare I say it was deserved. Building on that momentum, at the end of the quarter we began shipping an equally innovative mouse, the MX Anywhere 2 mobile mouse.

Another example of meaningful innovation is our wireless touch keyboard K400 Plus. This living room keyboard again targeted the installed base. The K400 Plus makes it easy to control your computer screen on your TV. Continued high caliber innovation in keyboards helped drive 7% growth in keyboards and desktops in Q1.

Stepping back from the categories to the regions in which we play, it's really good to see the regional growth symmetry this quarter. The Americas delivered 10% growth, Asia Pacific delivered double-digit growth, and EMEA, if you exclude emerging markets which were dragged down by the continuing story of a weak Russia and Ukraine, EMEA grew by 11%.

So, all three regions, excluding emerging markets in EMEA, grew double digits. We've grown double digits for three of the last four quarters in AMR, consecutive quarters in Asia. And while this is the first quarter we've broken through the double-digit barrier in EMEA excluding Russia and Ukraine, we've had consecutive quarters of growth overall there as well.

Now Vincent will go into more details on our performance.

Thank you, Bracken. Our Q1 results position us very well to deliver our full-year outlook. As Bracken mentioned, our retail business is achieving its sales growth target, and we saw growth in all three regions for the second consecutive quarter.

We continue to generate cost savings that have offset some of the impact from the stronger US dollar on our gross margin. We held our non-GAAP operating expenses flat, while freeing up capacity for investment in the business to drive future growth.

If I come back on a few numbers, let's start with our gross margin, which was down by 120 basis points. Currency headwinds alone, net of hedging, had an impact of 230 basis points in Q1, nearly double the year-over-year decline that we reported. We were able to offset some of this decline through our product and manufacturing cost reductions, product mix, as well as to a lesser extent the early impact from pricing increases.

While we expect the currency headwinds to remain throughout the fiscal year, we will continue to drive initiatives to offset as much of the impact as fast as possible. As an example, we expect to save at least $10m during FY2016 from our switch to more shipment via sea rather than air.

Another initiative which we discussed last quarter is increasing the prices of most of our products in key currency impacted markets. We made those price changes over the course of Q1, and the affected products are now making their way into retail shops.

We continue to demonstrate that disciplined spend management is now part of the Company's DNA, with our non-GAAP operating expenses unchanged from the prior year. At a high level, that may look like little has changed. When you look a little deeper, you'll see that we increased our R&D spending by about 9% to drive future long-term growth, and we funded that investment mostly through G&A and overall infrastructure cost reductions.

Last quarter, we announced a strategic shift focusing Logitech on our growing profitable retail business, exiting OEM and refocusing Lifesize on its smaller cloud solution. We booked a $13m restructuring charge in Q1 as part of our $15m to $20m estimate for the full year.

The OEM exit plan has been now fully developed with our customers and partners, and we will be out of that business by the end of the calendar year. We continue to work the repositioning of Lifesize, and are still evaluating all options for that business.

Finally, we are taking actions to further reduce our infrastructure functions to fund new growth opportunities, and you should continue to see infrastructure costs trending down, offset by investment in growth initiatives. We still expect the restructuring charges to be $15m to $20m for the full year, and we will give you regular updates on this important transition to growth taking place in FY2016.

Moving on to cash, our cash flow from operations was negative in Q1 and the main driver was the increase in our inventory. This increase was driven primarily by two key factors.

The first one is the ramp up to launch several new products in preparation for the holiday season. We are excited by the portfolio we are building to support our growth objectives. Exiting Q1, we had over $20m in inventory for new products not yet launched.

The second factor contributing to the inventory increase is linked to operational and strategic actions. For example, the change in our inventory strategy to utilize sea shipments rather than air means that in many cases we are building and then shipping products to our distribution centers sooner than would have happened last year.

Other operational shifts result from our strategy to build more products in our own factory in China. We are doing this to improve confidentiality, take on more complex projects, achieve more flexibility and reduce costs through the increased use of automation. We are now targeting a long-term ratio of 60/40 as the new norm for the split between products we build in-house and those that we outsource.

Looking at our inventory balances going forward, the incremental impact from the ramp of our new products will dissipate towards the end of the year as we ship to our customers. However, our overall inventory balance will be up year over year throughout the fiscal year, due to the strategic and operational actions we are taking. As a result, we expect that cash from operations will be unbalanced during the year, with a weak first half and a stronger second half.

Our strong total net cash position continues to be the foundation for our capital allocation strategy, focused on investing in the business and small acquisitions as a priority. As an example of using our capital to invest in our business, we acquired earlier this year the exclusive rights to use an automated ear scanner for our professional UE custom ear monitors, which will help continue to develop that business line.

Annual dividends and opportunistic share buybacks complement our overall capital allocation. As we announced earlier in confirming our preliminary proxy, we are requesting shareholder approval at our September AGM for a dividend in the amount of $85m, nearly doubling the payout in the prior fiscal year.

Regarding buybacks, we have about $240m remaining on our current program.

And on that note, I'll turn it back to Bracken.

Thank you, Vincent. Now I want to close with an overview of the brand transformation we announced a few weeks ago. We've spent the last two years reinventing Logitech from the inside. We are back to creating great products. We are gaining market share in our legacy categories, while we are creating powerful products in new categories like music and video collaboration.

We have dramatically improved our profitability, so we can afford to invest more in growth. And within that lower cost envelope, we've moved R&D resources out of legacy and into new categories. Both our current growth areas are new seeds.

We've built a strong internal design team for the first time in the Company's history, placing design at the center of everything we do. This complements the long and powerful history of engineering on which Logitech was built.

And we are transforming culturally. We are making progress on the path to make Logitech a great small company again, to shrink our behaviors, act humble, small, fast and creatively, to grow our topline faster. We are shaping a small company culture that's based on increased collaboration, flatter hierarchy and faster moving, fully empowered teams. It already feels different here now.

So we are transforming our products, the categories in which we play and even our Company culture, and now we'll start to transform our brand identity. Or as one of our leaders said it, our brand will catch up with the change that's already happened inside the Company.

First we'll change the Logitech logo. With simple geometry, circles and lines, the new logo is more open, smarter and approachable. It doesn't carry the eye symbol that was with us for decades that only a small percentage of consumers associated with the brand.

Second, we announced another sub-brand, Logi. Some of our most loyal consumers began to call us by this nickname years ago. And we believe that in today's world, but especially in the world we'll be part of in 5 to 10 years, technology will be so pervasive that it will be in the clothes we wear, the tires on our cars, the chairs on which we are sitting.

With that as a backdrop, we believe that the term tech in our brand name will make us sound like part of a past generation of tech companies rather than a leader of a new set of consumer companies using technology to improve people's lives. We'll continue to use the Logitech name for the Company and brand in our PC related categories. The rest will be Logi or, if it's mobile music, UE.

We've begun the process of gradually introducing Logi on our newest products and categories. Last week, we introduced our first family of products under the Logi label, the Logi BLOK family of protective cases for the iPad. This lineup is both strong and beautiful.

That brings me to our outlook for fiscal year 2016. Our outlook for fiscal year 2016 non-GAAP operating income remains $150m. We are also confirming our outlook for 7% constant currency growth for our retail sales.

Our first-quarter results put us soundly on track to deliver our fiscal year 2016 goals. We are on the offensive. We are consistently growing the future of Logitech, our retail business. At the same time, we are decisively exiting OEMs and restructuring Lifesize for a new world. We look forward to sustaining our momentum through the remainder of the fiscal year as we begin to launch big, new products with strong growth prospects under our transformed brand.

With that, Vincent and I are available now to take your questions. Please follow the instructions of the operator, as usual.

(Operator Instructions). Alexander Peterc, BNP Paribas.

Yes. Hi. Thank you for taking my question. Congratulations for your solid results. I'd just like to ask you, you had a funny mix this quarter with, as you said, profit max looking more like growth, so I was wondering how much of these trends we can extrapolate into the rest of the year. Would you expect the PC related profit max categories to revert to the minus 5 to minus 10 that you used to guide to?

And in tablets specifically, tablet accessories, the decline there was sharper than that of the tablets market, at least if we judge by Apple's numbers that were published this week. Is this disconnect due to the production [position] you have there? Thank you.

Okay. I'll take both of those. Yes, on the PC peripherals market, as I keep saying -- the term I use here is one Robin, which is a small bird that comes out in the springtime. One Robin does not make a spring. So it was a very strong quarter in PC peripherals. I do think it's built off of implementing or placing design and technology right back into the core business and it's driving a growth of -- it gave us a very strong quarter.

I would be very hesitant to extrapolate that for the rest of the year. So our assumption as we go through the rest of the year is that it will continue to be in the negative 5, negative 10 range that we've given in the past, and only time will tell whether it's better than that.

On the tablet side, yes, our performance was worse. Our sellout was better and we are transitioning in new products and transitioning to a tighter portfolio, so that's the difference you're seeing versus the iPad sales.

Thanks, Alex.

Tavis McCourt, Raymond James.

Thanks for taking my questions. First a follow-up on that last question, Bracken. So, on the profit maximization categories, it looks like on average ASP increase was probably 5%, if I take your quantity increase of 2% and your constant currency sales of 7%. So how much of that is just the launch of new products that tend to have higher ASPs, so kind of mix versus active ASP increases?

And then if you could talk about at what point will you know whether the ASP increases you're taking in Europe and elsewhere will stick, and have you seen anything on the competitive front to suggest that competitors will be raising prices as well?

Yes. On your first question, Tavis, thanks, we haven't seen too much of the pricing that would have flowed through; yes, some. I'll let Vincent comment on whether we can be more specific than that. But it would be relatively limited so far, because the implementation periods for price increases, especially in Europe where most of them are, tend to be 60 to 90 days. So you just haven't seen much yet.

So most of those ASP increases are exactly what you then concluded, which is that we're selling really premium products. MX Master is our highest selling productivity mouse, so very logical that you're seeing that kind of increase.

Yes, on the tablet side, the question was? Repeat the question again.

Yes. So I think you actually answered it there, Bracken, so let me move on to gross margins, and maybe this is a good one for Vincent. They came in much better than -- I don't know if you guided for gross margins, but certainly better than my model in June. And I'm wondering, talk about the sustainability of that. How much of that was mix towards the profit maximization categories or other things that were going on in the quarter?

Yes. Hey, Tavis. So we guided actually the number for the full year at around 35% to 35.5% gross margin, non-GAAP. We delivered the first quarter 36.7%. We knew Q1 would be higher, because the full impact of currency is not totally flushed through the P&L. We're still selling inventory that we bought at old currency rates, so we knew the full impact would not be totally faced yet.

Now, we already took actions, and to offset the currency impact the biggest gain was product cost savings. We do expect that to sustain through the year. We are slightly ahead of plan. And that was also helped this quarter, as you know, by product mix, with profit max having better gross margin than our growth categories, and that we don't see sustainable through the year.

As Bracken mentioned, we'll continue to plan for profit max to be aligned to the PC industry, and you know last quarter the PC shipment declined up to 10%. Then we'll see if mix is sustainable or not, but we're not planning and not forecasting on that.

And then the third element in terms of gross margin improvement is pricing actions. We've deployed all of our actions, but in terms of impact onto the margin, it's still very minimal in Q1. We know going into the distribution environment we have acted on all those prices. We have not seen yet the impact on sales out and whether or not all of those price increases will seek. So we'll continue to be conservative on that side and keep gross margin at around 35% to 35.5% for the year.

I can't help but piggyback on that and say we're starting to show a pretty resilient model, and we'll see if we can repeat that over time. But if anybody on this call has been told that the PC would be down double digits, the tablet market would be down double digits and we would grow 7%, I think most people would have said impossible.

But I think it shows we're growing very strongly in music, very strong in video collaboration. We can turn it on in the PC peripherals business to some extent, for some period of time at least, when needed. So it's a good show of really what we're doing in terms of building a more balanced portfolio.

And final question is on mobile music. So that's been a big growth category for you guys for a couple of years, and the category itself has been growing quite nicely. At what point does that category in your opinion become more of a market share game? Are we still seeing very strong growth in the category itself, or are you going to have to take a lot of share to keep these growth rates up here?

Well, the market share, the growth is slowing off a very high rate, so it's still growing very high. Globally, it's kind of 40%, 50% plus and staying there. And we love our portfolio. We think we've got a portfolio where we can grow market share for an extended period of time. So right now, for the foreseeable future, we certainly see strong growth ahead.

Great. Thanks a lot.

Thank you.

Paul Coster, JPMorgan.

Hi. Thanks. This is Paul Chung on for Paul Coster. Just to follow up on Tavis' question on margin, given your steps through these air shipment costs, is this mostly for your profit max categories or for your growth categories? And if it's more for the growth categories, should we expect them to move above the corporate average?

Hey, Paul. This is Vincent. So when we announced in March and then confirmed in April our guidance for the year, we explained that currency in the short term was definitely a big headwind for our gross margin and announced a series of measures categorized between cost opportunities and then pricing opportunities, as we discussed.

On the cost side, we have a lot of different activities. We really manage supply chain savings like a sales process, with all the ideas funneled, qualifying those ideas, putting a small budget into and then transforming that into savings.

In terms of the specific action around air shipment, about $10m savings for the full year, which require a little bit more inventory but it's across all of the categories, and it's really about through better planning and, as I mentioned, using some of our capital to put some safety stock in different distribution centers.

At this point in time, we are not planning the growth category to be above the corporate average in terms of gross margin. We still have the distinction, because we run the business on profit max for better profit but we run the growth category for growth and market share gain. So our whole objective there is to develop big businesses, as Bracken mentioned, not to drive in the short term a higher gross margin.

That said, I would add, and we said this at our analyst/investor day, I think every year we've had pretty much the same story. Our growth categories tend to either straddle or come close to straddling the corporate average, so video collaboration very strong, gaming strong.

Music improving.

Music improving, but not at the corporate average, and tablets below that. So we've already got a story that I think is on the right track for that.

Got you. And also, for the mobile speakers, can you give us a sense of market share in US, Europe, which countries you see the strongest opportunities?

And finally, how's the UE ROLL performing? I think it's a great product. Just wanted to hear your take.

I love to hear that. Make sure to tell Paul Coster that. I think it's a great product, too.

In terms of market share, I'll give you that. The rest of it is a little harder for me to talk about publicly. But in the US, we're somewhere in the 13%, 14% range, so we continue to have nice market share gains over time. In Europe we're a little lower than that. Germany is about somewhere between 10% and 12%, and then you go through the other countries. You've got some extraordinary numbers in some parts of the world, Australia, New Zealand. We've got a very strong position in Switzerland. But we've got great competitors out there.

So I don't want to share too much about where we're prioritizing and where we're not. I think we're just trying to do the best we can in every market we're in, and so far it's been quite good.

Great. Thanks.

Thank you.

Youssef Essaegh, Barclays.

Hi. Thanks for letting me ask my question. Sorry, I would like to circle back, if possible, on the question of your PC category. You had outstanding results and the PC market hasn't been doing well. So to help us understand a little why that happened, can you maybe just remind us stuff like, for instance, how long things live in your channel, especially now that you move into freight rather than air? So maybe the period of time between when you ship and when PC sales are happening, you see a disconnect of maybe a quarter or something. What have you seen, for instance, so far this quarter? Thank you.

I think underneath that question is, is this going into the channel and not making it out to the retail, and it is. Our channel inventories look pretty healthy from what we can see. It's always a little difficult to call that exactly right, but it looks pretty good. On the sellout side, we've seen strong sellout directly to consumers on the PC peripherals categories right now.

If I can help with some numbers. So the move to shipment via sea has not really changed anything in terms of selling into the distribution model. It's really between our manufacturer all the way to our own distribution center before you go to the distributor, so it has no impact on the revenue.

When you look at the channel, you have one slide that we post on our website, and you can see that the sell in and the sales out, which is really expressed as sell-through, which is the best number we have, are exactly aligned for all three regions. So across the regions we've seen strong growth and equal growth between sales out and sell-in, so no change in our channel overall.

With regard to the reason, I think Bracken mentioned it, the great products has helped really offset the current decline in the PC market, and we're definitely not yet forecasting that for the future. We'll realign to the PC industry.

Okey-dokey. And how is that moving to your forecast for the margin? So you started the year with a very strong margin, and you still -- for the reasons you explained about the time the parts got into your inventory, so at the moment you've got them at a better price, but how low do you expect it to go through the year?

No, that's a fair question. So really, the full year, we've guided 35% to 35.5% in terms of gross margin. Q1 is way too early to start changing that. We still have a big operational plan in front of us. Full impact from currency will hit in Q2. We will also have a better estimate and read of the impact of pricing increases in Q2 versus the very material impact in Q1.

Those are two big levers, if you want, before we can really conclude that the margin has upside for the year. So we'll stay conservative and really focus on our operational plan, the way we laid it out in March, and see what happens.

So the bottom is basically this quarter, and then from there you're going to start to work out the price increases, etc., back towards a high level, isn't it?

Yes. So we're going to be able to read the impact of our price increase we deployed in Q1.

Correct.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you.

Andreas Mueller, ZKB.

Hello. Thanks for taking my question. I've got a question on the cash conversion cycle. You guided long term for below 30 days. Is that still a valid figure?

Hey, Andreas. This is Vincent. So last year, same period, we were down below 30 days. All things being equal, we said we would be around 25 to 30 days. Then in April we announced some more strategic actions to offset the impact of currency, such as moving more to sea logistics. We would put some more safety stock in some distribution centers.

To date, you have to estimate what a midterm -- not a long term, but a midterm cash conversion cycle. I would run more 30 to 35 days versus 25 to 30. But once we've made those strategic decisions, then on the long term we'll continue to improve that model and get better in that model and be able to continue to reduce our working capital. So, long term maybe I wouldn't change. Midterm, I would move from 30 to 35 days.

Okay. Then, on Lifesize, what was the revenue share of the legacy systems in this quarter?

And also, could you elaborate a bit on the strategic alternatives beyond the sale of the business? What do you have there in mind?

Yes. So at a very high level -- we can go more into one-on-one discussion during the call. But at a very high level, the business is separated between the legacy infrastructure, the in-room hardware and the proprietary hardware for your network, versus the cloud that we launched about a year ago, and that's really more cloud-based solutions with an icon in the room.

We've seen strong decline of our infrastructure revenue, as we announced. Actually, our refocus on the cloud, over the first 12 months the cloud launch has been very successful. We have very strong customer subscription and usage of the seeds, so we're pretty optimistic on that cloud asset, if you want. And I will leave it at what we said, which is we're exploring all strategic options. I'll let you speculate. But as soon as we know more, we'll let you know. Our objective here is to maximize the value for our shareholders.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you.

Felix Remmers, Credit Suisse.

Yes. Hi, everyone. Three questions from my side. On the EMEA region, I was wondering how big is your exposure to Russia and Ukraine, and when will that headwind level off in terms of base?

The second question will be on PC gaming. The weakness you were talking about in the Americas region on the mice, what is your initial assessment here? What was the reason? Is it really just seasonal or anything?

And the last question would be on the seeds we were talking about the last couple of quarters you're working on. During the quarter, did you kill any of these projects, or is there a high chance that we can see new products coming out of the seeds for the holiday season? I would appreciate an update here.

Okay. I'll try to answer generally the rest of them, while Vincent's getting an exact number. Russia/Ukraine, it's relatively limited, about 15% of our total EMEA market, and that real big drop in Russia/Ukraine started Q3, Q4. So I think you'll hit some base periods that are relatively low here before too long, we hope.

On the PC gaming side, the question about mouse weakness, what's our theory on that, it's a little hard to say. This is a small enough market still that I think you do have these jumps and wobbles based on promoted activity and new product launches, etc. We did launch a lot of activity. In the last 18 months we've launched a lot of new mice, and so I don't think we need more mice right now to be competitive. We've got great products. We probably helped drive that market to some extent, so I think for the next -- right now, I think that's probably the best answer I can give you.

I think as we go into Q3 and Q4, we've got enough new product activity across the board that I feel very good about robust growth in the back half, as we said at the opening.

And finally, on seeds, I don't have a report out to give you, except to say I continue to be really excited about what we're working on. And when we're ready to launch something, I promise you, you'll be one of the first to know.

Okay. Thanks.

Okay. Thanks.

(Operator Instructions). Joern Iffert, UBS.

Thanks for taking my questions. Hello, gentlemen. If I may quickly follow up or try to follow up on the seed investment question of my colleague, if you don't want to share what is coming up near term, I understand this, but maybe in your medium-term vision, in your five years' budget, can you maybe help us? What percentage of revenues should come from the seed investments? Is it 10%, is it 20%, just that we get a better feeling for the product churn over the next couple of years?

And the last question would be in terms of momentum. Sorry if this was already answered. I was kicked out of the call. And can you confirm that momentum is similar to Q1 when you're running into Q2 for the Group? Thanks.

Hey, Joern. This is Vincent. Let me take the seed, about the long-term five-year budget model, while I'm working actually on this year's budget. But look, when we talk about the model, we've been very clear, right? We believe we can return Logitech, Logitech retail, that is, into high single-digit growth and long-term model 10% operating bottom line without really counting on the seeds. And we don't want to put in our model revenue targets for our seeds.

Now, we do have operational targets, which is product development milestones, understanding of the customer insight, and then of course a successful launch. But we're managing it much more as product bets and trying to understand market opportunities, versus really worrying about a P&L for those seeds in the short term or midterm.

Well said. I don't have anything to add on that one. On the momentum question, I think your question really is, as we finish the quarter going into -- last quarter, going into this quarter, how does the momentum look. It's early to say. We don't usually give any glimpse of that in this call, because it's just the nature of the beast we're in, I'd say. I don't have any visibility that would say our momentum changed dramatically in one direction or another, but I gave you my personal insight.

I think the PC peripherals business, we had a great quarter. We're not going to count on that for the year. We're going to count on delivering our commitment, and we believe we will do that.

All right. Thanks very much.

Thank you.

Michael Foeth, Bank Vontobel.

Yes. Good afternoon. Just two questions from my side. Just to be clear, on the branding strategy, in gaming, are you intending to keep the branding unchanged, or will there be changes, as well?

And then the second question is on the financial side. On top of the restructuring costs, you also had some $4m of other one-off items that I couldn't relate to. Can you please specify what was that for? Thank you.

Okay. Vincent will come back and get that one. I'll take the branding question. Our game plan is if it's a PC product it'll stay Logitech, and if it's not a PC product it'll go to Logi over time or UE if it's in the mobile speakers. Since most of our gaming products today are predominantly PC related, they'll be Logitech. We'll reserve the right to keep re-looking at that, because we hope that over the next several years we build a very strong Logi brand, but I think that's the answer for now.

Do you want to answer the other one, Vincent?

Yes. So the $4m excluded from our non-GAAP are related to the accounting investigations from last year, which we closed last November, and which items are described in our Form 10-K of 2015. This quarter, we proposed to the SEC to settle the case for $7.5m, and the $4m is to bring the accrual to that level on our balance sheet.

The SEC is now reviewing and going through their review and approval process. I do not want to speak of it on the output. There is no guarantee that that will be the final amount, but that's where we stand at this point in time. There is more explanations in our slides posted on our website.

Okay. Thank you.

It appears there are no further questions. At this time, I'll turn the conference back over to Mr. Darrell for closing remarks.

Okay. I'll be very quick. We feel good about the finish of the first quarter, optimistic about the year, and feel very good about the strategy we've pursued. Thanks a lot, and we'll look forward to talking to you guys in Q2 or after Q2.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

That concludes our conference for today. You may all now disconnect. Thank you.