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  • Operator

  • Good day ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Levi Strauss & Company's third-quarter 2015 earnings conference call. All parties will be in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session, at which time instructions will follow. This conference is being recorded and may not be reproduced in whole or in part without written permission from the Company. A telephone replay will be available two hours after the completion of this call through October 19, 2015 by calling 800-585-8367 in the United States and Canada, at 404-537-3406 for other locations. Please use conference ID 47005840. This conference call also is being broadcast over the Internet and a replay of the webcast will be accessible for one month on the Company's website, LeviStrauss.com.

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Ogle, Vice President Investor Relations and Assistant Treasurer at Levi Strauss & Company.

  • Chris Ogle - VP Finance

  • Good afternoon everyone and welcome to our quarterly conference call. I'm pleased to introduce members of the Levi Strauss and Company management team. With us today are Chip Bergh, our President and CEO, and Harmit Singh, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

  • Before we begin, I will remind you of a few items. Our discussion today may include forward-looking statements concerning matters such as our expected financial and operational performance, including our guidance for fiscal 2015, our strategic plans, our expectations for the economy and currency headwinds to our reported revenues and earnings, anticipated full-year A&P spend, future investment in retail and eCommerce operations, reduction of controllable costs and long-term estimated savings from our global productivity initiative that are based on our current assumptions, expectations, and projections about future events. Although these statements reflect the best judgments of our senior management, they involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those suggested by the statements as more fully described in our annual report on Form 10-K, our registration statements and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. And we expressly disclaim any responsibility to update forward-looking statements. Other unknown or unpredictable factors also can have material adverse effects on our future results, performance or achievements. We provide information on our website about how we compile various measures used to describe our business performance.

  • Participants on today's call may discuss non-GAAP financial measures. You will find the appropriate reconciliations at the earnings webcast page in the Investors section of our website as well as in our earnings press release announcing the third-quarter 2015 financial results which was furnished with the SEC today on Form 8-K.

  • Finally, today we filed our quarterly financial report on Form 10-Q with the SEC. You can link to SEC filings from our website.

  • Now I'll turn the call over to Chip Bergh.

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • Thanks Chris and good afternoon everyone. Thanks for joining us today. At the start of the year, we noted 2015 would be a year consisting of two distinct halves as we staged key fall product launches and balanced our investments in marketing in the first and second quarters. In the third quarter, we began to see the benefits associated with these efforts.

  • On a constant currency basis, third-quarter net revenues grew 7% and adjusted EBIT increased 23%. We achieved broad-based growth across regions, channels and brands despite ongoing traffic challenges by delivering an exciting slate of product offerings around the world, including our new women's line, driving double-digit growth in our international regions, growing and investing in our global Direct-to-Consumer business, and realizing product cost savings from the execution of the global productivity initiative. While we expect traffic at our brick-and-mortar stores to remain sluggish through holiday, we believe the strategies we put in place will help us achieve our goal of growing currency neutral revenue and adjusted EBIT this year, as well as in the years to come.

  • I'll discuss the execution of our key strategies after Harmit walks you through the financial details for the quarter. Harmit?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Thanks Chip. Welcome to everyone joining our call. My comments today will reference third-quarter comparisons on a year-over-year basis in US dollars unless I indicate otherwise.

  • Net revenues of $1.1 billion declined 1% on a reported basis, but grew 7% excluding unfavorable currency translation effects. Wholesale revenue grew 7% on a constant currency basis. The majority of the growth was in the United States and reflected selling flows for our Levi's women's and men's product initiatives. Direct-to-Consumer revenues grew 8% on a constant currency basis, primarily driven by the ongoing expansion of our retail network internationally, and the introduction of our new Levi's women's offering.

  • Gross profit for the quarter grew 2% to $573 million on a reported basis. Reported gross margin grew to 50.2%. Excluding unfavorable currency effects, gross margin expanded more than 200 basis points. The improvement primarily reflected lower negotiated sourcing costs and the savings from streamlining our supply chain. We also benefited again from growth in our higher margin international retail businesses, and from price increases we took in key markets to help offset the currency effects.

  • Third-quarter SG&A expense of $455 million was flat on a reported basis, but grew $30 million excluding favorable currency effects. The majority of this increase comprised 150 basis points of our constant currency SG&A rate and related to Direct-to-Consumer investments, including the addition of about 80 brick-and-mortar stores on a net basis since a year ago as well as spending towards growing our eCommerce business. As a percentage of revenues, constant currency SG&A remains flat at 40%.

  • Adjusted EBIT of $128 million grew $9 million from the prior year on a reported basis, and grew $24 million without unfavorable currency effects. As a percentage of net revenues, adjusted EBIT improved 11% as compared to 10% last year, as our improved gross margin more than offset our higher Direct-to-Consumer channel investments.

  • Third-quarter net income of $58 million was up from $51 million last year. Our high adjusted EBIT was complemented by lower interest expense, reflecting our refinancing activities of the last year.

  • Our consolidated tax rate increased compared to last year as a higher proportion of our income was derived from the United States, which has a higher tax rate.

  • Now I'll share more detail on the third-quarter results of our three regions. Net revenues in the Americas grew 5% in constant currency and 2% on a reported basis. The growth reflected higher wholesale revenues, including the introduction of the Levi's women's denim collection. New product introduction in Levi's and Dockers men's also contributed to growth.

  • Direct-to-Consumer in the region was down slightly as traffic continued to be challenging. Conversion remained strong but the environment was highly promotional. Adjusted EBIT for the Americas grew 18% on a reported basis, reflecting a higher gross margin driven by supply chain savings. In Europe, net revenues grew 12% without the impact of currency, but fell 10% on a reported basis, as the stronger dollar continues to significantly impact our results in the region. On a constant currency basis, revenue growth was again driven by strong retail performance as the introduction of our new Levi's women's offering was well received.

  • Growth was strongest in the UK and Russia. Adjusted EBIT in Europe grew 2%, inclusive of the negative impact of currency, but grew 22% on a constant currency basis, reflecting the higher net revenues and improved gross margin.

  • In Asia, net revenues were up 9% without the effect of currencies, but flat on a reported basis. The environment remains promotional with revenue growth coming from our Direct-to-Consumer and franchise network. Growth was strongest in India and China. Adjusted EBIT in Asia grew $8 million, reflecting the higher net revenues and an improved gross margin.

  • Year-to-date constant currency net revenues grew 2%, driven by the third-quarter product introduction and continued strong Direct-to-Consumer performance. Gross margin at 50.2% was 60 basis points ahead of last year despite currency pressures. Adjusted EBIT, however, declined 5% on a constant currency basis, primarily reflecting investments in eCommerce and new stores, and increased advertising and promotion spending in the first half of 2015.

  • Turning to the balance sheet and cash flows, compared to a year ago, inventory dollars declined due to foreign currency translation and lower average cost, while units increased modestly, reflecting our new product initiatives for fall. Free cash flow for the first nine months of 2015 was $0 as a $29 million increase in cash flow from operations was offset by higher capital expenditure and an increase in our dividend payment. Cash from operations in 2015 includes $25 million we paid to refinance our debt in the second quarter as compared to $8 million last year when we redeemed the euro bonds.

  • Overall, liquidity remains strong. Total available liquidity at quarter end was $822 million comprised of cash of $273 million and $549 million available under our credit facility. Net debt of $924 million was flat to year-end and our leverage declined to 2.2 compared to 2.6 a year ago.

  • As we move into the fourth quarter, we remain confident about the full-year currency neutral objectives we established at the beginning of 2015, specifically revenue and adjusted EBIT growth, gross margin of 50% or better, and advertising and promotion expenses in the range of last year's 6% of revenue. We also plan to end fiscal 2015 with nearly 100 additional Company operated stores, including new brick-and-mortar locations, as well as stores we acquired from former franchisee partners. However, given favorability in FX and lower spending in non-retail categories, we are lowering our outlook for capital expenditures. We now believe CapEx for the full year will be within the range of $100 million to $110 million.

  • With that, I turn it back over to Chip.

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • Thanks Harmit. We knew going into this year that delivering strong second-half results would be critical to achieving our 2015 growth objective. We made progress toward this goal in the third quarter.

  • Product has been a major focus this year and our fall launches will be especially important performance drivers for 2015 and next year. Our key initiative for the year is the global launch of the new Levi's women's denim collection. While it's still early days, we are encouraged by the initial consumer response to the product. The new fits, styles and marketing are driving strong sales in our retail network. In August, the first full month the product was in our global store fleet, Direct-to-Consumer revenues from sales of women's bottoms grew double digits. At wholesale, initial sell-in has been strong during the transition. We believe the building momentum of this key initiative will better position us for growth in women's going forward.

  • We also added newness to our men's assortment with the introduction of the Levi's 514 Motion with Stretch, and added new washes and finishes with the Levi's 501 CT we launched earlier this year. Our focus on style, such as the Levi's 511 Slim Fit and the Levi's 541 Athletic Fit, continue to drive results in the third quarter. And Dockers introduced new men's product in the quarter with an emphasis on stretch as well.

  • Our global Direct-to-Consumer business achieved strong growth again this year, up 8% in constant currency despite well-publicized traffic pressures and the very promotional environment globally. While the majority of growth reflects expansion of our store network, we also grew revenues by improving conversion and units per transaction. We accomplish this through better in-store service and expanded product offering. For example, tops were up driven by the graphic tees at our T-shirt bars. And we continue to invest in key omni-channel capabilities in order to provide an improved consumer experience.

  • In summary, we are pleased with the progress we've made in executing our strategic business plans. Heading into the fourth quarter, we are cautiously optimistic given the momentum we are building. However, we expect that soft traffic at retail and a broadly promotional environment will likely make for a challenging holiday period.

  • Additionally, as a reminder, our fourth quarter this year will have one fewer week than in 2014. We anticipate that the lost week will constitute approximately 2 points of fourth-quarter revenues. Nonetheless, we believe our growth strategies will continue to drive the top and bottom line for 2015 and beyond.

  • With that, we can open the line, operator, to take questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). William Reuter, Bank of America.

  • William Reuter - Analyst

  • Good afternoon guys. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the women's launch and either how much this contributed to the 5% constant currency growth in the US, or if there's any other way you might be able to quantify the impact to the quarter?

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • As we said in the prepared remarks, in the Americas, the results were largely driven by the sell-in effect of women's into department stores as we basically filled the pipeline. I'm not sure if I can break down -- I'm trying to do the math in my head right now -- break down what percent of the 5% that represented, but it was a pretty good chunk.

  • And then in our own stores, as we said in the prepared remarks, we did set the floors kind of late July and early August globally, and we are already seeing kind of a double-digit uplift on a sellout basis of our women's business versus a year ago, and that obviously also played a part in our results for the quarter.

  • William Reuter - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. On your last quarterly call, you guys had been talking as well about challenging traffic. I guess I'm curious. And you also highlighted tourist locations last quarter. I'm curious whether you guys saw a noticeable change in trend, whether things have actually gotten worse or whether kind of sequentially from the second to third quarter they were pretty similar.

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Bill, Quarter 3 is the quarter, at least in the US, where the inflow of tourist traffic is higher. So the trends were actually worsened relative to what we saw coming into the quarter.

  • Between -- in terms of traffic between tourist oriented stores and non-tourist oriented stores, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, our Direct-to-Consumer business in the US was actually down year-over-year. So going back to the earlier question you asked, and what Chip referenced, most of our growth in the US in Quarter 3 largely was driven by wholesale.

  • William Reuter - Analyst

  • Okay. And then --

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • One other thing that I would point -- most of our stores, about half to two-thirds of our stores, are located in kind of heavy tourist population locations, so metro New York, Florida. So we are very susceptible to swings in tourism because of the amount of our volume that's concentrated in those locations. So we did see an acceleration or a widening of the gap between tourist areas and non-tourist areas in part because we are so exposed to it.

  • William Reuter - Analyst

  • Okay. And then I guess just lastly from me, you guys talked about price increases, and it seems like these were definitely in the US. They may have been elsewhere as well, which I'm not sure about. But I guess can you comment on what percentage of your product you guys increased prices, and what types of price increases you saw? That's all for me. Thanks.

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • I won't get into specifics on what products, etc., but I would say we took a little bit of pricing in the US prior to the currency impact, which is normal course of business. And it was in similar products that our are doing relatively well with the end consumer.

  • Price increases specifically that I referred to were increases that were taken in response to the appreciation of the US dollar against some currencies, largely in Europe, so markets like Russia with some Western economies in Europe, and in markets like Mexico and Latin America.

  • Now, we are -- you can see the impact the strong dollar is having on our reported results. We are trying to offset that to maintain the structural economics of the business through pricing, cost curtailment, negotiation with our vendors. So broadly speaking, I would say pricing and cost curtailment is probably mitigating about 50% on currency impact globally. And we place -- we are looking at currencies on a daily basis because the currencies in the emerging markets, for example, in Quarter 3, they appreciated a lot more than what I anticipated.

  • William Reuter - Analyst

  • Great. That's all for me. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Carla Casella, JPMorgan.

  • Carla Casella - Analyst

  • My question is around the cadence of the quarter, both retail as well as wholesale. Because from what we are hearing from a lot of retailers, it sounds like there's been mixed comments about back to school. And just wondering what you've seen there.

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • You've got to remember the calendar is a little bit different this year than last year. So you had labor day a week later. We definitely saw a continuation -- I think it happened last year where back to school seems to no longer be a single event or as concentrated in a single or a couple of weeks period of time. It seems to be pretty extended. We saw the quarter heavily influenced by the sell-in of the women's product launch which happened fundamentally in July and early August. And that kind of reflects the way we had planned out the quarter.

  • Carla Casella - Analyst

  • Okay. So when you look at -- if you looked at same-store sales, how much of that would have been driven by the women's -- the load-in for the women versus sell-through?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • It's important to remember that the full launch of the women's product really started getting effectuated in the month of August, which is the last month of the quarter. And that's where I think in the prepared remarks Chip referred to August -- our sell-through for across our retail stores being up double digits. So it's early days yet in terms of reflecting how the women's product is doing, but the early signs are encouraging.

  • The other point to note, our international businesses had a fairly good quarter. Again, it's a continuing trend that you've seen as we have pulled the teams on the ground over the last 12 to 18 months, our international businesses are doing well. Europe for example had another real good quarter despite the currency on a constant currency basis, as well as structurally. Because they're more retail oriented, these businesses outside the US, our margins are being held by protracted growth in these businesses. So, that's the other thing to consider as you think about the quarter.

  • Carla Casella - Analyst

  • Yes, I was actually going to ask about this. The European, that was such a strong number, the 11.5%. Can you give us a sense for how much of that was from new stores versus underlying or kind of organic or same-store sales?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Again, at the outset, we don't disclose same-store sales, but I would say it's a very good balance. Strong sales in Europe were up, and we have had expansion in our retail network. In Europe, as against the US, the business is more 50-50 between wholesale and retail. And the two countries to call out -- Russia has been a steady -- on a steady trajectory of growth for us, but the UK is having another good year.

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • I think it's just worth pointing out that one of the reasons we are seeing the results that we are seeing is it's been an extenuation -- a continuation of a couple of quarters now. Europe is -- we're just executing really well in Europe. And we saw really balanced growth between retail and wholesale, and the teams just, despite all of the external and environmental challenges in Europe, they just keep delivering.

  • Carla Casella - Analyst

  • Yes. At what point do you think you might disclose same-store sales? How big does retail need to be?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Stay tuned. As retail takes off and retail becomes a bigger piece of our business, we will start articulating KPI to help everybody understand the strength of our Direct-to-Consumer business.

  • Carla Casella - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Grant Jordan, Wells Fargo.

  • Grant Jordan - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my questions. It looks like there's a pretty big increase in the number of retail stores. I think you said most of those were international. Can you provide if there's a specific area you're targeting as you open those stores, thinking of how that might look over the next couple years.

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • In terms of the number of stores, I think if you compare versus a year ago, we are probably on a net basis up 80 stores. The 80 stores actually do include about -- 1/4 of the 80 stores are coming from franchisee buyback. As we grow our retail network across the world and consolidate some of the franchise stores, that does get incorporated into these numbers. The rest of the stores primarily are -- have been opened in Europe and Asia. In Asia for example, predominantly China and India are where the areas of focus are. Russia and Europe for example we continue to open stores, etc. So we are focused on growing the retail -- our retail presence across key markets outside the US.

  • Grant Jordan - Analyst

  • Okay. And then on those countries where you do have licensees, are there agreements in place where you can buy those licensees out or is it more just a negotiation?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Specifically, if you're talking about licensees, the license agreements like with some of the competitors have a finite term largely. So at the end of the finite term, we can decide whether we need to take back those licensees.

  • To your specific question about franchise stores, the same stands true. It's truly based on the term, the performance of the franchise, franchisee stores, and the franchisee in general. And as we organize around some of these markets taking a holistic view on which stores we should run and operate versus operate through our franchisee partners is an important strategic question that we discussed on the line as part of our strat plan.

  • Grant Jordan - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. That's helpful. Thanks guys.

  • Operator

  • Karru Martinson, Deutsche Bank.

  • Karru Martinson - Analyst

  • Good afternoon. When you guys talk about sluggish traffic for the fourth quarter, how do you guys square that against most of the forecasts for the holidays kind of looking for a low to mid-single-digit holiday sales growth?

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • I think the simple answer is the best way to predict the future is to take a look at the recent past. And we've been talking about traffic declines now for probably two years. And I don't see anything that's going to fundamentally reverse the traffic declines that we've been seeing over an extended period of time. It is possible to eke out some sales growth despite declining traffic in our retail stores through a combination of online eCommerce and doing -- focusing on the things that are within our direct control like conversion and units per transaction. So I do think it's possible to grow in an environment where traffic is down. We can't use traffic as an excuse not to grow. But we are going to focus on the things that are within our control and expect that kind of plan for the worst and hope for the best. If traffic reverses and it actually grows and we continue to focus on conversion and everything, that would be a great thing. But I would say a realistic way to look at what to expect in the coming future is what we've been seeing here recently.

  • Karru Martinson - Analyst

  • Okay. And when we look at the lower negotiated sourcing costs, is that a benefit that should continue to build on itself, or how should we think about that going forward?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • A couple of things. Let me talk about gross margin in general. So gross margin basically impacted by a couple of things. One is supply chain, and I'll come to your specific question in a minute. The second is just the ongoing change in the structure of our business, more retail driving the growth, etc., and more international, both of which are higher margin businesses. And then product offerings, so for example our women's introduction, the margin on our new women's line is higher than what we had originally, so that makes a difference in terms of gross margin. And then the price increases that we are taking which help offset some of the transaction impacts we are seeing on currency.

  • Going to your specific question on supply chain, there are a couple of aspects that are helping us drive supply-chain efficiencies. One, as part of our global productivity initiative, we have tried to simplify our fabric platforms, our PC9s, etc., as well as the infrastructure that we have. So that impact largely will happen or be felt this year and reduce over time.

  • We've also taken some decisions on optimizing our network, largely the factories we own, and we shut two factories down, outsource to our third-party vendors. That's going to have an impact. That is probably going to be seen more in 2016 and 2017 than you see it today.

  • And third and more importantly is better negotiation and sourcing as the business grows. And I think that you will see ongoing over time. So it's difficult to break it up, but I would say it's a combination of an impact you see this year, some of which you are going to see on an ongoing basis.

  • Karru Martinson - Analyst

  • Okay. Lastly, on Asia, for a long time, it was kind of the area we called out for room for improvement, but it seems that business has stabilized and is growing nicely. What's changed on the ground there, and do you feel those improvements are sustainable?

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • I think, first of all, I do believe that it's sustainable. Second, we have a team on the ground that now I guess the whole team has been there for about two years. We've got some continuity there. We've got great leadership, and things have really -- we've got a strong strategy. We are committed to Asia. We are investing in the key markets in Asia. And the team has really come together and they are starting to execute. It's the classic recipe for success -- have a good strategy and have good people on the ground to execute and then execute brilliantly. And we are seeing the result of that right now.

  • Karru Martinson - Analyst

  • Thank you very much guys, appreciate it.

  • Operator

  • Hale Holden, Barclays.

  • Hale Holden - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking the call. I had a couple of quick ones. You called out declining traffic and higher intensity of promotions like a couple times on the call and in various different geographies. So I was wondering if you could rank it or tell us which geography was feeling it the most or that you are most concerned about?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • I'd say, traffic-wise, because of the tourism impact, the US is leading the geographies from that perspective. Having said that, we've seen traffic declines across the globe, and being offset through increasing traffic on our eCommerce business. But structurally it's a different business. So that hopefully answers your question.

  • Now, we are doing what we can to offset the traffic we planned and we are doing that through a couple of things. One, introducing the right product. So for example, the products, the women's product line that was introduced will bring in more consumers, as well as new product introduction on the men's side that we've introduced over the last couple of quarters is helping bring in new consumers. And the second is better execution. And that is really driven by higher conversion and higher units per transaction, both of which are global trends in terms of better execution that we're seeing across our stores.

  • Hale Holden - Analyst

  • Is traffic (inaudible) kind of even through your own stores, your wholesale partners and then your outlet stores, or is there a mix between the three that's different?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • It's slightly different I would say more on our mainline stores which is really stores that are on high streets and malls, and less in outlet stores because the consumer is value conscious, and that's a global trend.

  • Hale Holden - Analyst

  • Okay. Then the last question is it's been a while since you called out Dockers Men as an improvement category. So I was just wondering. I have been paying attention to some of the trend changes you've made there. Is there anything noticeable that's different or any color you can give us on that?

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • Dockers, as we said at the outset, part of the broad base -- every brand grew. Dockers grew in the third quarter, including in our international markets.

  • The big driver was the sell-in the some of the new men's products. So stretch is a big trend. We've talked about it on women's. We've introduced products with stretch on both the men's Levi's bottoms business as well as on the Dockers bottoms business. And that product has started to sell really nicely. We are seeing really positive sell-out there. So I continue to see really strong potential of this brand longer-term. We are focused on growing it, and we are encouraged by the early results of the sell-in of this new product.

  • Hale Holden - Analyst

  • Great, thank you for the time. I appreciate it.

  • Operator

  • Kevin Coyne, Goldman Sachs.

  • Kevin Coyne - Analyst

  • Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. I just had a couple. Just you called out women's, and it's nice to see the launch going well. But I was wondering if you could share with us a few of the attributes as to why you think it's resonating so well. I don't know if it's fashion, fit or fabric. If you could just maybe expand on why you think perhaps you are taking share in that category?

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • It's a really good question. I think a big part of the early success that we are seeing, the team really went to school on this. I've talked about it in the past. We've been talking about the women's relaunch for about a year I guess. But they were around the world a couple of times testing and refining the product. So, the whole trend towards softer, stretchier fabrics, it's built into this line and into the lineup, the 711 and the 710, which are skinny and super skinny with super stretch. We've got up to 90% stretch in some of the items. It's just resonating with women. And you add to that that denim seems to be on trend, we kind of have covered the base in terms of fashion and style. And add to that we've got a pretty compelling piece of advertising that seems to be resonating and working around the world, and we've launched it on about the same timing everywhere in the world, within a couple of weeks. And it's still early days. I'm far from ready to declare it a big success, but we are certainly encouraged with the early response that we've seen. It's exciting standing in-store and watching women try it on and seeing their reaction after they've tried on the product. It definitely is working.

  • Kevin Coyne - Analyst

  • That's great to hear. It will be interesting from our end to see how -- if it's ultimately bucking that athleisure trend, so we will stay tuned.

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • Stay tuned.

  • Kevin Coyne - Analyst

  • Just to touch on the back half of the year, you've kind of given us certainly a type of cautious tone. Would you say it's safe to say that I know you don't have a dividend policy, but certainly we wouldn't expect a dividend in the remaining calendar year.

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • As you rightly said, no dividend policy. Dividends are a decision that the board takes based on the cash flows of the Company. Our history has said once a year other than one year because it actually is delivered in the same calendar year.

  • And just talking a little bit about our thinking about capital, the way we are thinking about capital is we did increase the amount of capital deployment in the Company towards growth initiatives, largely technology, eCommerce and retail, reduce the pay down of debt. So as we think about capital, I think our first point of call is going to be towards growth ideas that will return incrementally relative to the cost of capital back to the Company and then pay down. Then based on what's left, having a discussion with the board in terms of returning capital back to the shareholders.

  • Kevin Coyne - Analyst

  • Thank you for that detail. Just one final housekeeping one. Would you happen to have the latest run rate of rent expense with the store expansion?

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Not off the top of my head, no.

  • Kevin Coyne - Analyst

  • Okay. I'll follow up. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Todd Harkrider, UBS.

  • Todd Harkrider - Analyst

  • Appreciate it. Congratulations on a good quarter. With some of the mix data coming from other apparel forms recently, can you talk about if you think you will have to give higher markdown money in the fourth quarter? And with A&P at 6% for the year, at least guiding towards -- that would imply a meaningful decline year-over-year. Is that A&P, is it highly visible at this point or if you see increased sluggishness in apparel, you could actually see higher A&P? Thanks.

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Yes, in terms of -- sorry, can you repeat your first question? (multiple speakers)

  • Todd Harkrider - Analyst

  • Markdown money.

  • Harmit Singh - EVP, CFO

  • Yes. In terms of markdown money, I think it's difficult to globalize that. It is -- we try to be relevant to the market and the consumer (technical difficulty) on a market by market basis and follow a very prudent markdown policy which is seasonal will have a different markdown, core products have a different markdown.

  • I think there is reacting to some tourist traffic and other things, in those areas just making sure we don't -- we are competitively as we price product is important. So I think -- and we've done a decent job so far. So we'll stay true to that course.

  • In terms of advertising, on a year-to-date basis, I think advertising is probably -- our advertising spend is probably a little under 6%. It's 5.7%. Quarter 3 was 6.1%. So we still believe that, for the year, we landed around 6%, which means that Quarter 4 will be slightly not to the 6%, to average 6% on a full-year basis.

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • But that is, as you rightly point out, below a year ago. We intentionally have talked about this as well, have tried to smooth our A&P spending through the year to kind of even the spending quarter to quarter more or less. That does imply lower spending in the fourth quarter than a year ago, and that is the way we've planned the year.

  • Todd Harkrider - Analyst

  • Sounds good. And then on the eCommerce side, can you talk about what you are seeing when it comes to the find in-store functionality that you are seeing people actually use that?

  • And then I know you're promoting free shipping on all online orders in the US right now. Is that benefiting you right now? I'm not sure if you actually offered that last year. And at minimum, are you seeing it drive new individuals to the website?

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • So, I'll answer the second question first. On free shipping, we do it off and on and we do it promotionally as a way to drive closure and to drive sales. And we may be doing it right now as we speak. It obviously comes at a cost, but it's also kind of what you need to be in the game occasionally here in this market here in the US.

  • On the find in-store, this is a relatively new feature which we've launched last quarter. We've started to expand it to some of the other markets around the world. We also are one of the first to have a find in-store feature with one of our key wholesale partners, and we are seeing that consumers are starting to use it. And we will continue to build on this functionality. We don't yet have the ability to find in-store and reserve in-store. That's something that's coming down the pike soon. So we're going to continue to build out our kind of omni-channel capabilities to enhance the overall consumer experience and to drive more revenue. So we are making steps. They are steps in the right direction. Pretty pleased with the progress that we've made, but we still have a ways to go.

  • Todd Harkrider - Analyst

  • I appreciate it and good luck with all of that.

  • Operator

  • At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to the Company for any closing remarks.

  • Chip Bergh - President, CEO

  • So I want to thank everyone for calling in. Our next call, believe it or not, won't be until next year in February, after Super Bowl L at Levi's Stadium and after the holidays. So I want to wish everyone a happy holiday and we'll talk to you again in the new calendar year.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Please disconnect your lines at this time.