Johnson Outdoors Inc (JOUT) 2012 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Johnson Outdoors third-quarter 2012 earnings conference call. Today's call will be led by Helen Johnson-Leipold, Johnson Outdoors' Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Also on the call is David Johnson, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Prior to the question-and-answer session, all participants will be placed in a listen-only mode. After the prepared remarks, the question and answer session will begin. (Operator Instructions). This call is being recorded. Your participation implies consent to our recording this call. If you do not agree to these terms, simply drop off the line.

I would now like to turn the call over to Cynthia Georgeson from Johnson Outdoors. Please go ahead, Ms. Georgeson.

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our discussion of Johnson Outdoors' results for the 2012 fiscal third quarter. If you need a copy of our news release issued this morning, it is available on the Johnson Outdoors website at www.johnsonoutdoors.com under Investor Relations.

Before I turn the call over to Helen, I need to remind you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are made on the basis of our views and assumptions at this time and are not guarantees of future performance. Actual events may differ materially from those statements due to a number of factors, many of which are beyond Johnson Outdoors' control. These risks and uncertainties include those listed in our media release from today and our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

If you have additional questions following the call, please contact either Dave Johnson or me. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Helen Johnson-Leipold, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.

Good morning. I hope you've had an opportunity to review our third quarter earnings announcement. I'll start off with comments on the marketplace and our results and then share perspective for the remainder of the year. Dave will cover some key financials, and then we'll take your questions.

The third quarter is when the warm weather outdoor recreation season kicks into high gear. An unusually early spring in some parts of the US got the season off to a strong start. The drought in those same areas of the country slowed markets down a bit in June.

In Europe, northern country markets are holding steady, while economic anxiety continues to depress markets in the South. Asia, which did not feel the same impact of the recession as other parts of the world, continues to grow. Overall, while our outdoor markets remain below pre-recession levels, they are recovering.

During our third quarter we see the most important success measure for new products consumer response at retail. We define new products as those introduced within the last two years. And this quarter, new products across all units drove revenue up 5% to $129 million and accounted for more than 40% of the total Company sales in the quarter.

Year to date net sales are up 2% -- 3% excluding currency translation -- with new products delivering nearly half of total Company revenue during the nine-month period. At this time, it looks like Marine Electronics is on track to deliver another $200 million-plus year, and that we're making progress in our class of trade strategy in Watercraft with sit-on-top kayaks performing well. Camping is a little soft at retail, but Internet sales continue on the upswing. And in diving, SUBGEAR continues to grow, and the SCUBAPRO Meridian dive watch has given a nice boost to sales.

Now our primary goal over the past three years has been to grow profits faster than sales amid a gradual recovery of outdoor markets. Operating profit increased 20% to $14.2 million for the quarter. For perspective, quarterly operating profit dollars and margin reached pre-recession levels, while sales have yet to return to 2008 levels.

And net income rose 11%, with earnings of $0.91 per diluted share. Year-to-date operating profit is 12% ahead of the prior year. Net income and earnings for the nine-month period were impacted by tax accounting, which Dave will discuss in a few minutes. Overall, we had a great quarter, and we're having a very good year, posting impressive results which demonstrate the significant progress we've made in leveraging our strengths to maximize market opportunities and address challenges with heightened energy and discipline. But we're not satisfied yet; more work lies ahead. Let me outline two key priorities for the future.

First, ensure Watercraft achieves a healthy, sustainable level of profitability. Last fall we combined the forces of Watercraft and Outdoor Gear businesses to drive progress against a specialty channel growth platform and return Watercraft to profitability. To do that, we have to strengthen Watercraft margins and deliver innovative, specialty-only new products and services, including enhanced retail sales programs and support.

In July we announced a global restructuring of Watercraft operations in the US and Europe and that we expect to generate $2 million in annual savings in two years. Even more importantly, the actions will enable the business to have the resources needed to invest in the future.

The restructuring includes relocating Watercraft marketing and R&D into Old Town, Maine, our paddle sport operations hub. In doing so we are bringing added focus, alignment, and discipline to our specialty platform initiative to accelerate the pace of innovation and speed to market.

Last week Dave and I spent time with paddle dealers down South, and today we're joining you from Salt Lake City, where this year's annual Outdoor Retailer Show is in full swing. The importance of specialty dealers cannot be overstated. The US is the largest canoe and kayak market in the world, and paddle specialty is the single-largest paddle sport channel. Reclaiming a leadership position in specialty will happen over time and not overnight, and we're committed to making it happen.

A second big priority is to ensure our Marine Electronics business and brands remain strong and growing. This is our largest business, and it is an important growth engine for our Company. Minn Kota and Humminbird are each $100 million brands, a rare achievement in the outdoor recreational equipment industry. Innovation has been critical in driving strong growth in these brands, and it will play a key role in ensuring a strong future for both.

Last month we unveiled our 2014 new product lineup in Marine Electronics at ICAST, the premier tradeshow for the sporting fishing industry. Let me to you about a couple of my favorites.

First, i-Pilot Link, which gives anglers more boat control than ever, all with the push of a button. The i-Pilot Link utilizes GPS technology and ethernet connectivity to enable communication and functionality between select Minn Kota motors, select Humminbird fishfinders, and LakeMaster digital GPS maps. The ability to store and record location data on the fishfinder and the ability to have the trolling motors use that data for automatic navigation is something that fishermen have been asking for. Now, with i-Pilot Link, they finally have it.

Here is just a few of the unique features of this product. Follow the Contour, which directs the trolling motor to follow a specific depth contour that is displayed on the LakeMaster digital GPS map. It even tells the angler when to present bait and at what depth. It can also automatically follow a path at set distance from shore.

The Go To feature steers the boat to specific locations and records them from the fishfinder or from the remote. iTracks records and stores trolling motor paths where the fishing was good, so anglers can come back to them again and again. There's also a Spot-Lock feature that works like an electronic angler to keep the boat within a five-foot radius of the selected spot.

In addition to all that, the i-Pilot Link has cruise control, advanced autopilot that automatically adjusts for water conditions to keep the boat on true course. And we've even integrated our Co-Pilot wireless trolling motor control system into the i-Pilot Link remote.

Over at Humminbird, our new patent-pending 360 Imaging technology is capturing a lot of attention. This is a sonar accessory compatible only with Humminbird fishfinders to give anglers a complete, around-the-boat underwater image, with the same sharp detail they've come to know with our patented side imaging technology. With a single sweep, 360 Imaging has the ability to cover a 300-foot diameter circle.

Orders started rolling in when 360 was first unveiled last February, even though the product isn't available until later this year. Whether you are a professional or a weekend angler, 360 Imaging gives you a clear, competitive edge on the fish. And that's how the folks at ICAST saw it last month when they awarded the Humminbird 360 Best in Show for electronics. The competition is only tough at ICAST, and walking away with the gold in our category was a big honor that historically carries a lot of weight with consumers.

So in summary, we feel good about where we are and are driving the charge to end the year strong and continue moving forward behind our commitment to build long-term value for our shareholders. Our current strategic plan will sunset at the end of this fiscal year, and we look forward to sharing the details of our new three-year plan with you on our next call.

Now I'll turn things over to Dave Johnson, our CFO, to review financial highlights.

Thank you, Helen. Good morning, everyone. As Helen mentioned, the primary goal of our 2012 three-year plan is to grow profits faster than sales amidst the gradual recovery of outdoor rec markets. And third-quarter operating profit margin was the highest in eight years, due largely to improved efficiency and disciplined spending.

While quarterly operating expense grew slightly compared with the prior year, on a year-to-date basis, operating expense percentage is the lowest in 11 years. We also continue to reap the benefits of cost structure reductions over the past three years. As measured by sales per employee, total Company productivity improved 6% compared with prior-year quarter and 3% versus the prior-year nine-month period. So good progress in the right direction.

Keeping the balance sheet strong and healthy is always a key priority, and working capital is down $12 million below the prior year-to-date period. Inventory is down $7 million. Inventory days are favorable by 6 days, and cash-to-cash days are also favorable by 11 days.

Cash net of debt is $26.3 million, a favorable swing of $18.6 million over the prior year, with all businesses in a cash-generating position for the year. So the balance sheet is in excellent shape.

Now we'll talk about the impact of taxes on the quarter and first nine months. As we told you last quarter, the Company's effective tax rate is higher this year. The reason for this is that in those countries where income is being generated, like the United States, it's being taxed; in countries where losses were incurred, tax valuation allowances exist, so no tax benefit was derived.

The third-quarter effective tax rate was 36% versus 11% in the prior-year quarter, which was unusually low. Despite the higher tax rate, net income grew 11% quarter over quarter. However, on a year-to-date basis, the tax rate is 44%, which resulted in a 13% decline in net income during the nine-month period. We do expect the end-of-year actual cash taxes to be below the book rate, at a tax rate somewhere in the mid teens.

In closing, we feel good about the progress we've made against our 2012 goals. Our businesses are clearly stronger and more competitive and well positioned for the continued success in the years ahead.

With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator to begin the Q&A session. Operator?

(Operator Instructions). James Fronda, Sidoti & Company.

Great quarter. Just in terms of the growth within the Marine Electronics business, besides the fact that you guys are a leader in every product group, would you say part of the contribution is coming more due an increase in overall boat sales, or is it due to an aging boomer population looking to spend, or a mix of both?

We don't have the specifics, but we would say it's really a combination of both, because we do see the boat sales going up. And I think that there is more spending on behalf of our consumer segment. So it's a combination.

Okay. And David, can you tell us the specific numbers for Accounts Payable, accrued liabilities, and other liabilities during the quarter?

I believe I can. I've got the Accounts Payable number is $30.2 million.

Okay.

I don't have the other liabilities in boat on here.

Right. I can sync back with you later.

I can give that to you.

Okay. And in terms of the Outdoor Equipment business, was that a one-time order from the government that caused that growth, or do you expect for the sales growth going forward in the next couple of quarters?

Yes, it was the military. It's a lumpy pattern, and so it's a bit of a pacing thing with military. And that's what really boosted the growth this quarter. But overall, for the whole year, we don't expect military to be a significant piece of the growth.

Okay. All right. I agree with you. And I guess just your general sense from your guys' point of view on the US economy -- I guess we all kind of know what's going on in Europe, but specifically dealing with the small and unique specialty shops, do you have any sense on how they're holding up?

Well, you know, we have taken some road trips, too. I think the ones that have gotten through, the ones that are -- got through the worst part of it, are actually doing well. And the specialty shops tend to attract the consumer that is more engaged in the activities. So they are not the in and out recreational user. So they tend to be a little more loyal and continue the purchase process.

Okay. All right. All right, guys, I appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

Thank you.

Brian Rafn, Morgan Dempsey.

The military order, was that the Marine Corps or the U.S. Army?

It's actually a mix of a variety of orders. We even sell a bit overseas, so I don't have the details, but most of our military business tends to be Army.

Okay. And then what are you guys seeing -- you didn't really talk a little bit about cost of sales. Are you seeing any increases in feedstocks, resin costs, plastic, that type of thing, metals? Anything in cost of sales?

We are not. Right now, it's fairly steady. But obviously, like everybody else, we're looking toward the future and trying to figure what's going to happen.

Okay. When you look at -- you guys talked a little bit about the enthusiast sports guy. Are you seeing more strength from the niche specialty boutique? Or are you seeing as much strength in the sports enthusiasts coming from some of the bigger box -- the Cabela's and some of those others?

You know, I think it depends on the recreational segment you're talking about. Because Bass Pro, Cabela's does attract the enthusiast hunt/fish recreator. And so they are certainly providing support to those chains, and I would say some of the smaller specialty shops attract the more engaged paddler and camper. So I think both channels are benefiting from their core consumer group that is engaged in the category.

Okay. Could you talk a little bit about -- you had just briefly touched on the diving segment. Can you break out, say, SCUBAPRO from SUBGEAR? Any trends, buying -- your sense of -- I don't know, average ticket orders? Are you seeing more strength at the premium end of the diving business, or more in the midrange? Any highlight you can give on the diving segment?

The SCUBAPRO core franchise -- we see increases in our base business. And that's our higher-end line. We also see the growth in the SUBGEAR brand. We've got both, so it's not skewed one way or the other.

Okay. Can you -- you talked a little bit about new products being overall upwards of 40% over the last three years of the combined. Can you break out new products by diving, Marine, Watercraft and the outdoor camping side? Can you give us a sense of -- or is it pretty much similar all across the board?

Well, I would say that Marine Electronics and diving -- I'm sorry, Marine Electronics and Watercraft both had above-average new product performance versus the rest. But it's obviously -- it's what we focus on in all four categories, but it has really been led lately by Marine Electronics and Watercraft.

Okay. When you have new product growth that's that large, we're happy to see businesses that do 15% or 20%, and you're talking about over 40% -- obviously that says a lot for innovation. When you have that large a growth in new product sales, how much cannibalization or loss from other products that may have been replaced do you guys see?

In our Marine Electronics, we're making a very good job of managing the new products and the introduction of the next series. So they've done a good job of managing that. Obviously, we have to take into account cannibalization, but keep in mind that our purchase cycles are quite long. So you don't have people buying two significant items in the same segment year after year.

I mean, people come in and out. So even though we do have this 40%, you are bringing new people in. So you're kind of managing the cannibalization piece.

Okay. Given the fact that that -- just talking about some of your specialty niche boutique retailers, given the fact that they had probably a challenging winter, if you're doing skiing, or Alpine, or cross country, you haven't had a lot of snow, are you favorably impressed by their rebound in orders, in traffic, in taking down inventory in the summer cycle?

Well, I think it -- they are obviously very regional. And different regions have done differently. But I would say that they have all learned how to better manage the inventory piece of it, as all channels have done a better job of that. But we haven't seen a clogged inventory in specialty retailers.

No. And I hate to have to do a wide swath with specialty, because it's such a -- big and smaller retailers. But we're not seeing a ton of inventory out there since the recession. So everyone is still -- their balance sheets seem to be in better shape.

Okay. The consolidation issue you had with Watercraft, was there any headcount reduction with that, or was it just a facilities consolidation?

Yes, there was headcount reduction.

How many people, roughly?

I think the initial expense was between 15 and 20 people. And that's what the initial expense represented. That was in Europe as well as here in the US.

And then as you're seeing a rebound, what would be your headcount as an employer all across the board for Johnson Outdoors? Are you holding that steady? Do you see hiring patterns throughout this year? What would be your posture, maybe, for 2012?

I would say that you -- as you look at our Company in general, we have done more with less. And I think you'll see more of a steady hold our current level.

Okay. And then Dave, you got any CapEx figure for the full year?

For the total year, I think that was in the press release. I think we quoted the total year. So we -- capital -- oh, I'm sorry, for the whole year.

Yes, budget-wise.

You know, I don't have the number in front of me, but I would expect that we'll probably do around $12 million for the year, give or take $0.5 million or so.

Okay. And then maintenance CapEx would be what of that, roughly?

Probably a quarter of it.

Okay. All right, thanks, guys.

Okay.

Thank you.

(Operator Instructions). Michael Schechter, Mentor.

Two quick questions. One, the balance sheet looks in exceptionally good shape. And just looking at, say, a 4-quarter average balance sheet, you're running a net cash position. Given the next quarter, you should be generating even more cash. Have you given any thought, Helen, to maybe a special dividend in front of what's probably going to be a tax hike going into 2013?

You know, we have looked at all options, and we continue to do that, including, as we've always said, keeping an eye out on acquisition opportunities. So we're on assessing that on an ongoing basis. And we'll see what works out going forward for this year. But we're looking at all options.

Okay. And just looking at Watercraft and the outdoor -- combined, $90 million of revenue; very, very little contributions on an operating basis. I know you're going through yet another restructuring in Watercraft. At what point, because they tend to mask the real growth of marine -- at what point do you decide that they're better off somewhere else or combined with something else so that Marine and diving can really lead the Company, and people can see the growth?

Well, you know, we have a strategic focus for Watercraft and OEG that we feel good about and are pushing forward on. You know, both of those areas are important segments to the playing field that we're in. And so there is a lot of fragmentation out there, and these are some of the bigger segments.

So we've got a plan in place. We're following that plan. We think going down this path is the right approach at this point in time. But again, we're -- as I said, we are looking at all options and always weighing what we think the best path is objectively for long-term value creation. So we get the point.

Just to add to that, Michael, the actions that we've taken -- we need to get the business profitable and feel good about the sustained profit level in the business. So it's a bit of a balancing act, because we do believe in the long term of the business than the strategic focus, but we also need to make sure we get it profitable, so we're doing both.

Can you -- just looking at the margins, right -- so Marine Electronics is phenomenal double-digit margins and really terrific. And diving seems to be working its way back to healthy margins. What would the goal be for outdoor and Watercraft? Are we talking about a 5% operating margin, 7%? Where do you see in the short term -- this two-year plan, where do you see it getting you to?

Well, I don't know about two years. I think within maybe three or four years, a high single-digit operating profit margin is reasonable.

On the same, say, $90 million of revenue between the two units?

Yes.

Thank you.

Brian Rafn, Morgan Dempsey.

Yes, when you look at some of your businesses, if you look at say, diving, I would say Watercraft, can you measure or can you delineate your accessory sales or what the consumer might be accessorizing? If you're having someone buy a canoe, and then buy paddles and life vests and whatnot. Or in the diving area, if somebody comes in and buys a diving suit and then accessorizes with fins and goggles or masks, and that type of thing, are you able to delineate at all in 2012 whether the consumer is more or less coming in for one item and you have less of an elasticity, or maybe the consumer has more elasticity to not accessorize? Or is there any way you can measure that?

Well, from a market standpoint and market segment standpoint, in diving, accessories are very important. But they seem to be -- that industry seems to be a very committed and avid group. And so they are still purchasing the main life support items.

I think in the boat arena, accessories -- PFDs, paddles are a big piece of the market. But again, we don't see one accessory area going up versus the main product. I think where you see that more is in Marine Electronics. When they -- people decided not to buy a boat, they would accessorize the boat, and that's -- we could see that happening, and that is when our Humminbird and Minn Kota product, which are considered to some degree accessories to a boat, tend to take off.

But we don't see any new trends going on in that end of the business. I don't know if you want to add something, Dave.

No, I think Helen nailed it. I think it just depends on the category. Because with diving, what you define as accessory could vary. We see life support as the core of the franchise, but we also see a lot of business in masks and snorkels --

Wetsuits.

And wetsuits, and the soft goods. In Watercraft, the boat is the core. But we are seeing along with that, paddles and PFDs come with it. Is there a big difference? Not necessarily, no.

Yes, okay. I think you talked about the accessorizing in the fishing side.

Do you have any -- if you look at your domestic or your global markets across diving and Marine Electronics and Watercraft, do you have any sense of what kind of a normalized expansionary post-recession, what a normalized core growth rate might be in top-line sales? Are they population-centric or population plus a couple of percent? What's your sense across your different segments?

I tend to look at GDP as the benchmark. Post-recession, though, there is some variability with that, depending on how consumers react to the value in the category. But I tend to look at GDP.

Okay, and so would you say all of your segments tend to be GDP-centric?

Well, as a core benchmark -- now as we have said, we are able to grow beyond that with our innovation, we have been historically, and that would be our business model.

Okay. Right, thanks.

Thanks.

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I'll hand the call back to Helen for closing remarks.

Thanks again for joining us, and we look forward to speaking with you at the end of the year. Have a good day.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference for today. You may all disconnect and have a wonderful day.