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  • Operator

  • Good day and welcome to the Intercontinental Exchange fourth-quarter 2016 earnings conference call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kelly Loeffler, Senior Vice President. Please go ahead.

  • Kelly Loeffler - SVP of Corporate Communications, Marketing and IR

  • Good morning. ICE's fourth quarter and full-year 2016 earnings release and presentation can be found in the Investor section of ICE.com. These items will be archived, and our call will be available for replay.

  • Today's call may contain forward-looking statements. These statements, which we undertake no obligation to update, represent our current judgment, and are subject to risks, assumptions, and uncertainties. For a description of the risks that could cause our results to differ materially from those described in forward-looking statements, please refer to our 2016 Form 10-K, which we filed this morning.

  • In our earnings supplement, we refer to certain non-GAAP measures, including adjusted income, operating margin, expenses, EPS, EBITDA, and tax rate. We believe our non-GAAP measures are more reflective of our cash operations and core business performance. You will find a reconciliation to the equivalent GAAP term in the earnings materials, and an explanation of why we deem this information to be meaningful, as well as how management uses these measures.

  • When used on this call, net revenue refers to revenue net of transaction-based expenses, and adjusted earnings refers to adjusted diluted continuing operations earnings per share. Unless otherwise noted, the year-over-year figures we will discuss reflect comparisons against adjusted pro forma 2015 results. With us on the call are Jeff Sprecher, Chairman and Chief Executive; Scott Hill, Chief Financial Officer; and Chuck Vice, President and Chief Operating Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Jeff.

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, Kelly. Good morning, everybody on the call.

  • We are pleased to have the opportunity to report the best year in ICE's history. As you can see on slide 4, 2016 was our 11th consecutive year of record revenue, and record adjusted earnings. It was also our third consecutive year of double-digit adjusted earnings growth, driven by our core business and the strong contributions from investments in our strategic growth initiatives over the last three years.

  • Over that time we have restructured and integrated NYSE Euronext, while delivering $530 million in synergies to date. We're ahead of schedule on integrating Interactive Data Corporation, with $70 million in synergies delivered in the first year, and we're now increasing our synergy forecast for the next couple of years.

  • As we integrated the NYSE and IDC, we delivered consistent top-line growth, margin expansion, and improving returns on invested capital, while also returning more than $2 billion in capital through dividends and share repurchases. We now possess the most comprehensive range of financial market solutions across trading, clearing, and data.

  • Moving into 2017, we remained laser focused on creating value for our shareholders. We continue to skate where the puck is going, just as we get when electronic trading and clearing emerged as new areas of growth a decade ago. Over the past five years, we have repositioned our Company deeper into areas where growth is more sustainable, and revenues are increasingly consistent.

  • Since 2011, we have grown recurring revenues from 9% of our consolidated revenues, to 53% in 2016. In the process, we've built modern data solutions, by organizing our proprietary data, technology, and acquisitions. Our approach leverages the global distribution of our exchanges, clearinghouses, and our proprietary data, which is an indispensable growing component of our market participants' workflow.

  • Our strategy continues to prove itself out with double-digit adjusted earnings growth, driven by each of our business segments. ICE data services demonstrated its ability to grow above the sector growth rate, while delivering leading operating margins. Our financial futures volume grew double digit in 2016. And ICE Brent crude achieved the 20th consecutive year of record volumes.

  • These are just a few of the great examples of drivers of our long-term growth, which provides the foundation of our confidence entering into 2017. I will now turn the call over to Scott to review our 2016 performance, and then I'll be back to discuss our strategy heading into this new year. Thank you

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • Thank you Jeff, and good morning, everyone. As you can see on slide 5, we delivered a strong finish to a very successful 2016, despite a challenging environment. Fourth-quarter revenues of $1.1 billion were up 5% year over year, or up 7% on a constant currency basis.

  • We will refer to revenue growth on a constant currency basis, due to the significant decline in both the pound and the euro, reflected in fourth-quarter and current-spot exchange rates. Adjusted operating expenses in the quarter were $493 million, down 3% year to year, and below the midpoint of our guidance by roughly $10 million, due to currency impacts and additional synergies. Adjusted operating margins increased 4 points to 57%, and adjusted earnings per share grew 11% to $0.71 on a pro forma basis.

  • Moving next to slide 6, revenue growth in the fourth quarter was driven primarily by our data and listing segment, where revenues were up 11% year over year on a constant currency basis. Data and listings revenues grew 6% on a constant currency basis, when you exclude the acquisition of the securities evaluation and CMA businesses. Notably, recurring revenues were 54% of consolidated revenue in the fourth quarter, and you also see that margins in this segment expanded to 52% in the fourth quarter.

  • Within the data and listings segment, pricing and analytics revenue was up 14% year over year, or 4% on a constant currency basis, and excluding the businesses acquired from S&P. We continue to benefit from solid customer retention, and are starting to see improvements from the reorganization of our data sales force, and continued product development.

  • Exchange data revenue grew 12% over the prior fourth quarter, as we continue to see growing customer demand for this important risk-management tool. Finally, revenue in our desktop and connectivity business increased 7% year to year on a constant currency basis, as more customers chose to buy larger ports, to consume increasing amounts of the data that we provide.

  • Turning now to slide 7, our trading and clearing segment revenues were up 3% year to year on a constant currency basis, driven by 10% volume growth. Energy revenues grew 9% on a 12% increase in ADV. Our financial revenues declined year over year, due largely to currency impacts, and despite 9% growth in interest rate ADV.

  • Operating margin in the trading and clearing business expanded by 4 points to 63%. Open interest in Brent, WTI, European natural gas, and our agriculture and equity index products all reached record open-interest levels in 2016.

  • We expect continued geopolitical and market volatility, to cause our commercial customers to carefully manage the risks associated with their open positions, as we move through 2017. However, volume this January was down compared to the prior-year trading volumes that were driven by the extreme volatility in January of 2016.

  • Next on slide 8, I will recap our full-year results. Consolidated net revenues were $4.5 billion, up 4% over the prior year, or up 6% on a constant currency basis. Trading and clearing revenues grew 2% or 4% on a constant currency basis.

  • Data and listings revenues grew 7%, with the addition of revenues from the Securities Evaluation acquisition, effectively offset by currency impacts. In addition to growing the top line, we delivered synergies of $120 million, $50 million more than we anticipated at the beginning of 2016, which contributed to adjusted operating margins expanding by 4 points.

  • The combination of revenue growth and expense discipline drove adjusted earnings growth of 11% versus 2015. Importantly, these strong profit results generated record operating cash flows of $2.1 billion, which allowed us to increase our dividend payments by 24% comparing to 2015, even as we reduced our leverage from 2.8 times at the end of 2015 to 2.2 times at the end of 2016.

  • I would like to take a moment to expand on our approach to capital allocation on slide 9. Our capital allocation philosophy is straightforward. After reinvesting our business and funding select strategic growth investments, we balanced our investment-grade rating with the return of 100% of our excess cash to shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases.

  • One year after acquiring the NYSE, we returned nearly $1 billion per year in both 2014 and 2015. Similarly, one year after acquiring IDC, we expect to return over $1 billion in 2017.

  • Underpinning this growth in capital returns, this morning, we announced an 18% increase in our quarterly dividend. We have now raised our dividend by double digits every year since we instituted it, which is consistent with our commitment to grow the dividend as we grow. We also plan to increase our share repurchase activity, from $50 million in the fourth quarter, to $200 million in the first quarter.

  • We expect to continue to use repurchases as a primary means of returning an increased amount of capital to our shareholders during 2017. Our confidence in the strength of our business model and the sustainability of our cash flows enables us to invest in our business, maintain our solid investment-grade rating, and significantly increase our capital returns only one year post the acquisition of IDC.

  • Please turn to slide 10, which highlights our track record of delivering sector-leading and consistently improving returns on invested capital. We have a disciplined process around M&A analysis and integration. We look to strengthen the companies we require by integrating them closely into ICE's operations, to unlock greater value over the long term.

  • Our process measures each business case against our goal of delivering double-digit returns on invested capital, meaning that returns generated are expected to be well above our cost of capital. While each business case is constructed with a view to creating long-term value, the foundation of success is established in our growth, integration, and synergy plans, which credit positive returns above our cost of capital in the near term.

  • I should also point out that we consistently evaluate our portfolio. If the business no longer fits our strategy, or was not helping us meet our ROIC targets, we will divest that business. We did it with Euronext and with NYSE Technologies, and expect to divest IDMS during the first quarter, and NYSE Governance Services later this year. While good businesses in their own right, they don't meaningfully leverage ICE's core competencies, or have our strong margin expansion profile.

  • The results of this disciplined process are reflected on this slide. ROIC has consistently improved in the three years since we acquired NYSE.

  • We expect to deliver a similar trend of improvement, as we execute the integration of our recently-acquired data businesses. Finally, it's worth noting that our approach has enabled us to deliver nearly 140% total shareholder returns to any ICE shareholder who has held our share since December 2012, almost double the return of the S&P 500 over that same period.

  • I'll conclude my remarks on slide 11, by highlighting a few key elements of our 2017 guidance. Please refer to our press release and presentation for a complete summary of our guidance. Entering 2017, data revenues under contract are 8% higher than they were entering 2016, which gives us confidence that our data business can grow once again, at least 6% on a constant currency basis.

  • While the various acquisitions and divestments we have completed or expect to complete during the first quarter will impact individual data revenue categories, the net impact to our overall data revenues and expenses is expected to be immaterial. I also want to note that while we don't provide guidance for our trading and clearing segment, we're encouraged by open interest levels, strong commercial participation, new products, and anticipated market volatility in 2017.

  • Finally, I want to summarize our expectation for expenses entering 2017. We exited 2016 with around $100 million in synergies to go. We now expect to realize an additional $25 million to $30 million across our acquired data businesses.

  • We expect to deliver roughly $60 million in synergies during 2017. Adjusted expenses are also expected to decline by around $30 million at current spot currency rates.

  • The net impact to 2017 of the fourth-quarter acquisition of the Securities Evaluation and CMA businesses, along with a small data acquisition and the divestment of IDMS, which we expect to occur in the first quarter, will increase expenses by $8 million to $10 million. These additional expenses will be more than offset by incremental revenues of $12 million to $14 million.

  • We also expect growth in variable expenses related to increased data revenues, additional investments in the resiliency and security of our broad technology footprint, and increased compensation expenses as we bring IDC on to our ICE structure, and as we reward our team for their consistently strong execution, each consistent with our pay-for-performance culture.

  • The net of all these ins and outs is that we expect our expenses to be roughly flat in 2017 versus 2016. I'll be happy to take your questions during Q&A, but for now, I will hand the call back to Jeff.

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, Scott. As we look ahead to 2017, you can see we've continued to build a consistent growth and leading return-oriented business. We're bringing the global distribution of 12 exchanges and six clearinghouses, together with data and information, which is the lifeblood of markets and risk management.

  • On slide 12, you can see that we've grown every year by executing on our growth strategies, staying nimble, and maintaining a focus on the needs of our customers. Our customers provide the best and deepest insights into evolving market needs, and this focus has enabled us to steer into high-value areas of global markets.

  • We believe this is why ICE stands apart over the long term. It's the basis for our consistent growth, regardless of economic or market conditions, as you can see here.

  • Our work is well underway to drive growth and returns in 2017. Whether it's offering new products, realizing our synergies, integrating our acquired businesses, or repaying debt and returning capital, we will continue to deliver on our objectives. As we achieve further synergies and expand our margins, we also expect to grow our revenues with a range of initiatives across markets, listings, data and clearing.

  • With the majority of our revenues becoming more recurring, we believe this will strengthen our future performance, and provide us with more visibility to manage the growth of our top line, earnings and cash flow. It also provides for more consistency in capital return. Notably this consistency is driven by several of our more recent acquisitions.

  • We have $950 million remaining in our share repurchase authorization, and we expect to be active in acquiring our shares this year. So we are delivering on our philosophy of growing our cash flow to reinvest in our business, pay a growing dividend, and repurchase shares based on intrinsic value. We'll continue to balance this with the prudent M&A that is generating these strong returns. I expect that any such M&A focus will be toward smaller complementary transactions rather than the larger deals of past years, given our confidence in the growth platform that we have today.

  • If you turn to slide 13, you can see there are many drivers of our confidence, regardless of the financial or regulatory environment in which we operate. First, you might ask how ICE's data business can be growing at a rate faster than the sector average.

  • The simple answer is that we are building a high-value data business, that is able to serve the requirements of traders, asset managers, corporates, banks and regulators. This focus is particularly important as the demand for data has continued to evolve rapidly, following the financial crisis and the growing digitization of commerce. What we've assembled at ICE is a global data business based on comprehensive proprietary data, that supports analytics, desktops, indices, data connectivity, and benchmarks.

  • For example ICE generates packages and can sell data directly from our 12 exchanges, without the overhead of redistributor costs. Our exchanges provide valuable data inputs into indices, like our recent announcement with S&P Global Platts, who will utilize natural gas data from ICE markets for their benchmark indices in North America.

  • We also have services to provide the feeds, the connectivity, and the proximity hosting for this data. So that's an example of our ability to provide unique end-to-end solutions.

  • In the vast and growing fixed income markets, we are a leader in the evaluative pricing of bonds, and a leading innovator in real-time pricing tools. As you have seen in our recent announcements, with our continuous evaluative pricing being integrated into BlackRock's Aladdin. And ICE benchmark administration was named to a key role within the ISDA Credit Determinations Committee, as it continues to add to its positioning as a neutral regulated benchmark administrator.

  • Our customers' compliance requirements continue to grow. We offer a range of solutions, whether it's our liquidity indicators and reference data bundle, or our best execution solutions. We're solving for our customer needs across Basel III, MiFID II, EMIR, Dodd-Frank, Solvency II, FRTB, and other regulatory mandates.

  • These are a few examples of our data capabilities, and how ICE continues to be woven into the fabric of global markets. We continue to build on our proprietary data solutions, as there are many dynamics supporting the need for more data. As you can see on the slide, we are very well-positioned to serve.

  • Let me shift to our listings business. Having taken ICE public on the New York Stock Exchange in 2005, I am really proud of what we've been able to achieve at the NYSE in the three years that we have owned it. We have delivered on our cost synergies, while dramatically growing the business, and ensuring that is the global listings leader for corporate and ETF issuers.

  • It was a declining business, and we've reversed it, strengthened the floor, conducted 26 out of the last 26 large US IPOs, turned around the financial performance, changed the culture, and expanded its opportunity set. NYSE continues to be a source of growth for listings and data revenue, and this can be attributed to our disciplined integration efforts that Scott described, which unlock value across our acquired companies.

  • In that regard, on the right side of the slide, you can see that we are focused on several areas to build on the solid performance of our transaction business, which creates the virtuous cycle of growth, when coupled with our data operations. We offer a full range of risk management and trading solutions across virtually all asset classes, and our clearinghouses continue to provide growth opportunities, from clearing new products to serving the demand for risk-management services.

  • We have built out the broadest energy markets available today, both geographically and from a product perspective. ICE's exchanges in the US, the UK, Europe and Asia all serve the global energy markets on a common trading and clearing platform around the clock, as trading shifts from East to West during the day.

  • In European interest rates, we've had great volumes last year, growing 12%. What 2017 holds for volumes is difficult to predict, but we believe that central bank actions and geopolitics will again dictate that for the most part. This business accounted for roughly 4% of our total revenues, and we remain the leading European short-term interest rate franchise, even in this low-interest-rate environment.

  • We believe that there remains strong volume upside, as Europe recovers. We continue to see opportunities to strengthen the NYSE's trading position by evolving our market structure and expanding trading in all US equities through our hybrid floor-based model, later in 2017.

  • I'll close my remarks on slide 14, noting that we're committed to building on the track record of growth that you can see here. Not only is it unsurpassed in our sector, regardless of financial or economic environments, but it serves as a guide post to our team, to continue to deliver results to our customers, and to our shareholders.

  • Our strategy, to serve our customers where they are located, and our ability to evolve our business quickly to serve the highest value parts of global markets, requires us to remain nimble, responsive and results oriented. Because we're not levered to a single cyclical trend or geography, we have led our space in growth on virtually every metric over the last decade.

  • I want to thank our customers for their partnership, and I want to thank my fellow employees for their dedicated efforts in achieving these results. I'm now turning the call back over to Andrew, our moderator, and he will conduct a question-and-answer session until 9:30 AM Eastern Time. Andrew?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Michael Carrier, BofA Merrill Lynch.

  • Michael Carrier - Analyst

  • Scott, just a question on some of the guidance, particularly just on the capital and the cash use. I just wanted to get a sense, when you look at say the $1 billion that you are looking at to return to shareholders, and then if we look at your cash flow, there's obviously the other $1 billion plus, what is the pace of maybe debt pay down this year, versus you mentioned smaller deals if they come up, to see if you have that flexibility? And then just one other one on the cash side is, when you look at the share count, it looks somewhat flattish, despite the buybacks. Any indication on grants that would be kicking in to somewhat offset the buybacks?

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • Yes, so Michael, thanks for the question. There's a lot tied up in that, if I missed a part let me know. Let me start on the last question.

  • The share guidance reflects only those repurchases that we would expect in the fourth quarter, the $200 million that we talked about on the call. We don't project our forward repurchase, and therefore we don't project in the share count. So that may be why you're seeing the share counts be relatively flat, offset with the grants as you talked about.

  • More importantly in the script, I want to be really clear about this. What I said was return over $1 billion this year. Not $1 billion. So you're going at the right starting point.

  • Even if you just assume similar cash flows to what we had in 2016, and the timing of certain cash flows can vary back and forth, that was over $2 billion. You net out of that CapEx, you're looking at free cash flow of $1.8 billion. We talked about $475 million of dividends, with the increase we put in. We're probably about $400 million give or take a little bit of debt reduction to get to our leverage target. That leaves a substantial amount of money for share repurchases.

  • And Jeff was very clear. We've got a $950 million authorization, we have come out strongly in the fourth quarter with $200 million, and I said explicitly that it's our intent to return 100% of our free cash flow that we don't need for investments in the business or dividends to our shareholders, and that will likely come through repurchases. I think the expectation for this year should be a very strong capital return, and frankly the most capital we have returned in the history of the Company.

  • Michael Carrier - Analyst

  • Okay. Now that makes sense. And just real quick on the taxes. Just given the change in equity comp accounting, any impact there? I'm sure it's in your guidance for the full year, but just wanted to get any color.

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • It was actually in our numbers for 2016. If you looked at our Qs and Ks, we had disclosed that as we moved through the year. There were a couple of things that I think are important to note there.

  • Number one, the impact to your tax rate depends on the size of your pretax profit, and ours is significantly larger, and so the impact from that change is a bit smaller. Number one. Number two, be really careful, because that is a presentation change.

  • It has nothing to do with cash. And so, net-net, it is reflected in our tax rate in 2016, and it's reflected in our guidance in 2017. It's a relatively smaller impact less because of the size of the pretax profit we generate.

  • Michael Carrier - Analyst

  • Okay. That makes sense. Things a lot.

  • Operator

  • Rich Repetto, Sandler O'Neill.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • First my question, I think I know the answer, but on the market data revenue guidance, so you are netting out the impact of the CMA and S&P, SPSA, against the website business that you sold. And can you give us any revenues about that business that was sold?

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • I would say it's a good question, Rich. You're exactly right. So the guidance is net of the acquisition of the S&P businesses in the fourth quarter, the divestment of IDMS which we expect to close in the first quarter, and a smaller data acquisition that we also expect to include in the first quarter.

  • Net all of that out, and it's roughly a wash. I said to $12 million to $14 million of incremental revenue, which on a $2 billion data base is nothing. And so the guidance of at least 6% growth net all that in.

  • Importantly, when the IDMS business closes and that new smaller data acquisition closes in the first quarter, you will see a reduction in revenues in the second, third, and fourth quarter of about $12 million each per quarter, and associated with that is the reduction in expenses of about $10 million per quarter. So you get a sense of the margin profile of the business being divested, and our comments on the script about evaluating our portfolio.

  • So that is all netted in the expectation, and again, at least 6% as on a constant currency basis. Currency right now looks like it's about a 1.5 points to 2 point hurt in 2017 versus 2016, if current spot rates hold.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Got it. Okay, that's helpful. And Jeff, I guess broader question is, we have definitely seen outlook in regards to regulation, at least here in the US. I'm not sure how -- you position regulation as being at least somewhat of a burden in Europe, that will cause fragmentation, but also as a benefit as well. If you could just give your views on the potential to change regulation in the US, whether it be Dodd-Frank or Volcker, and an update on what is going on in Europe?

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Sure. I think you use the word in your question, which is we expect is going to be change. And whenever there's change, it means that customers are having to change their behavior, and modify their risk management practices.

  • We always do really well in these environments of change, because we're pretty nimble and responsive, and we have a pretty big toolkit. So, we view all of that as positive from a business environment standpoint and it validates the decisions we made long ago to have jurisdiction, placement in different jurisdictions of key people and key assets so that we can be pretty locally responsive and on top of those things.

  • That being said, you do see this trend in the US, towards lighter touch regulation, and you're going to have some change going on in Europe post-Brexit, with the UK leaving the EU, and both entities reevaluating in my opinion, the footprint of regulation that they have, in order to remain globally competitive, and have something that is relevant to their markets. So, a lot going on.

  • It's why Scott is relatively confident that we begin the year with our data revenues up 8%, contracted compared to last year. And a lot of that business has come from EMEA, as people are positioning themselves, really due to regulatory changes that are going on over there.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Okay. Very helpful. I'll get back in the queue. Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Alex Blostein, Goldman Sachs.

  • Alex Blostein - Analyst

  • So just sticking with the data business for a second, following up Jeff, on your last one about contracts being up 8% versus the prior year, can you give us a sense, how predictive is this for revenue growth in this business? I know you only had it for about a year, but just given the trends that you saw in 2016, wondering how good of an indicator that is for revenue growth. And then maybe you could expand on particular products and categories that you're seeing a pick up in growth within that 8%?

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • Yes, it's a good question, and we have back tested, if you will, the metric a bit. It's a good indicator, it's not a perfect indicator, nothing is, because as you move through the year, you look at new sales and what the trends are there. The mix of products that are being sold, et cetera, but it is a good indicator, that is why I mentioned it.

  • I think our confidence in our data business growing is supported by that metric being up 8% entering the year. And by the way, that up 8% is on an apples-to-apples constant currency basis, so it directly relates to the revenue growth. I think it's relatively more indicative of, if you will, the former IDC business.

  • And I think it's important to note that business, which is largely reflected in our pricing and analytics, we expect to grow 2 times faster this year than it did last year. And so, while the overall growth is at least 6%, the leader of that growth this year is going to be that pricing and analytics business. It's going to be for the reasons that Jeff talked about, with particular strength in Europe, with particular demand for more information around bond pricing et cetera.

  • And so overall, my expectation, as opposed to this year, where exchange data was a faster growing segment, exchange data will be a solid contributor once again in 2017, but it's really that pricing and analytics business that will grow faster than the overall data revenues. And then it's going to be a bit of a mixed bag in connectivity and desktops as we move through the year.

  • Connectivity, as I said, we're seeing more and more customers want more and more of our data, and move up to larger ports, which is obviously going to generate revenue growth in connectivity, but in desktops, that's where the IDMS business is. That business will be coming out in the second through the fourth quarter, and so as you look at the year-over-year dynamic to that, it won't look particularly appealing, but again that will be largely reflective of the divestment. So, hopefully, that gives you a little bit of a flavor for the pieces underneath the total.

  • Alex Blostein - Analyst

  • Got it. This very helpful. Just a quick verification around expenses. Scott, I think I heard you say that FX on a spot basis was a bit of a headwind still to the guidance on the data side, but presumably that would also help on the expense side of the equation. So within the guidance that you provided on adjusted expenses, what are you assuming for FX, and if you were think about the spot rates, what could that look like?

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • Yes, we actually put that explicitly on chart 11, so it's a $30 million benefit in our expenses, if spot holds for the year.

  • Alex Blostein - Analyst

  • Okay, got it. Thanks much.

  • Operator

  • Warren Gardiner, Evercore.

  • Warren Gardiner - Analyst

  • I was just wondering if you could maybe talk about the reference data business a bit. I think you announced that APEX is going to be providing some services to GoldenSource during the quarter. So could you maybe just speak to that opportunity, and what you see there going forward? I think it's an area that IDC invested in, and it was also maybe a smaller player versus some of the incumbents?

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Sure. First of all, let me just say that we're in the reference data business particularly strong in certain segments of the reference data business, around the fixed income platform. We're looking across our whole organization. The acquisition of Interactive Data Corporation, a light went on inside the company to say, boy, we have all kinds of reference data around here that we never really thought about digitizing.

  • So we are investing this year, and part of Scott's guidance is continued investment in the digitization of reference data, so that we can make it available through the connectivity and the distribution channels that we have. So it's a very good and strong area for us, and one that we feel like has growth opportunities.

  • Customers increasingly want lots of choice in how they gather data. They often times want multiple providers, and they want as much information as they can put on the digital highway, so that it's easy for them to consume it. All of those trends are things that have caused us to up our investment in that area.

  • Warren Gardiner - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks. That was it. That's it for me.

  • Operator

  • Ken Worthington, JPMorgan.

  • Ken Worthington - Analyst

  • Can you talk about the cash equity and equity options business? There seems to be some pricing pressure in the industry, it's affecting share of a lot of the participants. Maybe, how are you managing that balance between continued profitability and market share? Thanks.

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Sure. Let me start with the second part first, the equity options business. ICE is in almost every asset class in some manner around the world, and I would say to you that the US equity options business is the most difficult business of any business that we're in. We are in it because it is part of the NYSE, and all of the other good things that we derive out of the NYSE, but that as a standalone business is incredibly challenged.

  • If you look last year, there were new market participants come in as exchanges, to list equity options, and the rate per contract fell, as a result of that, and volumes across the industry fell. So in that environment, you have one of two choices. You can play a market share game and cut fees, in order to talk about market share, or you can try to maximize your business for its earnings potential, and that's what we're doing, is the latter.

  • We don't really care about share. We really care about finding a core group of customers that like what we do, and the way we deliver the technology we have, and are willing to pay is appropriately for it, and I let all of that other noise just drift away, to be very honest with you, Ken.

  • The market has, at its core, a small handful of market makers that are very important to this country and to those markets, but those people are very sophisticated, they can move their business around at will, they use algorithms to maximize their profitability, and so you have got to attack that market in a way that defines your business, and as you can see consistent through the presentation today, we are really looking for earnings-per-share growth long-term for our shareholders. So that is that business.

  • The equities business is interesting to us, and we are doing quite well and that business. When we look at the business today, there are a number of business models that exist. We believe the best model is the NYSE model, of a hybrid floor and screen, coupled with dedicated market makers.

  • The market also believes that is the best model, and that particular model has the highest market share in the US equities space. But there are customers that want choice, and so we have decided and announced earlier that we are going to list the other models, if you will, under the different medallions that we have, and that is an all-electronic model, which is very good for ETFs and ETF listings.

  • A speed bump model. And we've got one other medallion we haven't announced yet what we're going to do there. But suffice to say it is our goal for customers to have a one-stop shop where they can get all the different models in one place at a very low cost, with very good technology. And so, we look forward to delivering that. We're highly optimistic about our ability to grow earnings on the NYSE as a result of the investments that we're making there.

  • Ken Worthington - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you. And Scott, maybe really a quickie. Cost synergies coming in faster than you expected. You found an additional $25 million to $30 million.

  • You're guiding to $60 million now for 2017. I haven't been able to navigate the math, yet. What does this imply for 2018? How much is left there?

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • So Ken, with the additional $25 million, $30 million that leaves it to go at $125 million to $130 million. The way I would think about it is we're going to get a little less than half this year, and the rest of it in 2018 and 2019.

  • Ken Worthington - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Chris Allen, Buckingham.

  • Chris Allen - Analyst

  • Just wanted to talk about the trading businesses a little bit. Jeff, you just covered equity options and cash equities, and you talked in your remarks about potential growth opportunities elsewhere. Just wondering if you can point to any specific examples, maybe within asset classes? Some of your competitors obviously have very specific things to talk about. Some are more successful than others related to revenues and/or volumes, so just wondering if you could give us any specific areas, whether it's energy, agriculture rates that you think there's potential opportunities moving forward.

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • Chris, let me start if you don't mind, just with a few data points. Look, as Jeff said, we have never tried to predict volatility, and we're not going to predict it this year. But our open interest level for our total oil business was at a record level at the end of 2016, and underneath the covers, our WTI business record level.

  • Our Brent business barely off record levels. European natural gas open interest, record levels. Our agriculture and metals business, record level open interest. Our equity indices business, which grew really well in 2016, record open interest levels.

  • When I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we don't predict our trading and clearing revenues because we can't pick volatility, we feel good about where we are from an open interest standpoint. A lot of people talk about their volume growth, and that's interesting, but not really relevant.

  • What matters is where are your open interest levels, how much of your participation is commercial participants, what you doing in terms of delivering new products to those customers? And if we look at the combination of those things, if there is a little bit of volatility, we'll grow a little bit. If there is a lot of volatility, we will see some solid growth. We feel good about the metrics, we're just not looking to predict volatility.

  • Chris Allen - Analyst

  • Got it. I was looking maybe for new product development opportunities, things like that. I totally get the whole volatility outlook.

  • Maybe just a different question on market data. What are you seeing in terms of new customer trends? Obviously you have talked a bit historically about opportunities to get deeper within your current existing customers on the IDC side, and ICE side, but are you seeing any new customers coming to you for market data products, and/or new growth avenues there?

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Sure. Well first of all, let me just reiterate what you recognize, which is, ICE had a business historically that became exhaustive of trading, that was very targeted towards traders and the front office, and IDC had a business that was providing settlement prices, that was very targeted towards the back office. And the combination of the sales force and what we're doing with the marketing effort is to be able to sell to the front, middle, and back office across the broad array of products.

  • So if you talk to people in our commodity data business -- they're seeing new customers, if you will, which are really the middle and back office of traditional IDC customers. So there is a commingling, if you will, of accounts, that is going on, and that is driving a lot of growth that we see, as a lot of our customers want to have a one-stop shop. I mentioned that separately, we're seeing a lot of growth in EMEA as people are getting ready for MiFID II, as the Basel rules are kicking in, and as changes are going on with Brexit and the regulatory structure, particularly in Europe.

  • That's spilling over somewhat now into Asia. We're seeing -- we have sales offices in Asia. They're able to take a lot of these products that we're building and adapt them for Asia, and we're making some investments there that we think are going to pay longer-term dividends.

  • And last year, we really saw the customer growth within our historical energy commodity information, which really grew a lot. That is still continuing to grow. There is some spillover coming out of last year, as a lot of new customers are buying our data, given that the market is becoming fragmented, due to both competition and regulation, and is driving the need for information. So all of that is underneath the metrics that give us some confidence that this data business that we been investing in is going to be a growth engine for us, for a number of years.

  • Chris Allen - Analyst

  • Thanks guys.

  • Operator

  • Vincent Hung, Autonomous.

  • Vincent Hung - Analyst

  • Can you talk about the wealth notice that you called out in the 10-K this morning?

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Sure. Well it relates to an outage that the New York Stock Exchange had on July 8, 2015. And that outage was as a result of a failed upgrade of software, and a latent bug that was discovered as a result of that process. We hold ourselves and NYSE holds itself to really high standards of business practice, and during that process was providing a lot of timely and accurate communication, as to what was going on in that market, and was attempting to alert the market to the technical issues, as they were being identified, which we have a regulatory obligation to do.

  • So, we dispute the appropriateness of the potential charges that the SEC wants to bring. And we have a lot of defenses, and as a result of that, we have made our own written submission to the SEC articulating our points, that at the end of the day, it was a technology outage. It was very unfortunate, it was embarrassing and a black eye, but we don't believe that it actually violated any law.

  • Vincent Hung - Analyst

  • And, what would be the impact if the new administration of the SEC repealed Reg NMS?

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Let sit down and talk about that, over dinner. I think the trend from what is being discussed at least, is a lighter touch form of regulation. We'll see how that actually gets promulgated.

  • I would tell you that almost anything that we do around the New York Stock Exchange requires a rule change, and requires approval by the SEC. So right now, we are operating in a very, very highly regulated, somewhat restrictive business. So we would welcome the freedom to innovate and to do -- use some of the techniques and technology in things that we do in other markets, and bring them into the US equity space. I'm thinking at least the rhetoric right now is quite positive towards the way that we do business.

  • Vincent Hung - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Chris Harris, Wells Fargo.

  • Chris Harris - Analyst

  • Question on the outlook for data. It sounds qualitatively like there is a lot of good things going on, but when I look at the guidance, up 6%, it's down slightly from the prior guidance I believe, which was 6% to 7%, but I know you've got moving parts in there.

  • We've got FX, and there's some divestitures going on. So can you help us, is the guidance we should be thinking essentially as an affirmation of where we were before, or should we be thinking about in a different way?

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • I think you ought to be thinking about it as an affirmation of what we think is a terrific business. What we have said before, was be really precise. What I said on the last call was we would grow at similar levels as we moved in 2017, as we delivered in 2016. I now said at least 6%.

  • Underneath the covers, underneath the covers I noted that the pricing and analytics business which is mostly our former IDC business, is going to grow faster than that, and twice as fast as it did in 2016. I noted that in desktop, there will be some erosion because of the IDMS sale.

  • We feel pretty good, and feel like we're affirming what we've said before, and hope that it's not lost on people that it's a business that's going to grow at least 6%, that's delivering 52% operating margins, which just doesn't exist in the data space. So, it's a business that is growing quickly, and a business that is generating very strong operating margins, and is one of the reasons why we're confident in saying we're going to return record levels of capital to shareholders this year.

  • Again, our view is, it's an affirmation of a great business. It's fully integrated and growing.

  • Chris Harris - Analyst

  • Understood. Thank you. Brian Bedell, Deutsche Bank.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Sorry, Scott, just got one more on the data side. Just to maybe walk through the $12 million to $14 million that you talked about per quarter. Let me just back up.

  • So, the 6% data guide, if we apply the currencies, and I think you're using year-end or current currency rates, and I think that would knock it down about 1.5 points or so, so we're looking at an actual 4% to 5% growth in data? And then you talked about the divestitures. The 4% to 5% includes the divestitures, is that correct?

  • Scott Hill - CFO

  • The 5% that we put in the guidance includes everything. The 6% in constant currency includes everything. And again, I feel like we're missing the forest for the trees.

  • This is a really good business, where we said historically we would grow similarly to what we did last year. We grew 6% to 7% last year, we're going to grow 6% this year. We're going to generate 52% operating margins, and in the pricing and analytics business is going to grow twice as fast as it in 2016. This is a great business, and again don't lose sight of the fact that I said at least 6%. So that means we likely think more than 6%, similar to 6% to 7%, meaning likely more than 6%.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • I definitely agree. I just was trying to actually get the numbers. And then maybe if you could talk a little bit about the exchange data component of this?

  • And I know, Jeff, you alluded to competition from NASDAQ's NFX business coming into the markets, and that actually helping your ability to monetize that, given the expansion of volume coming into futures. How much of that improvement came from that angle, and do you foresee that in perpetuity?

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • It's hard to know how to dissect a trend, but we had two things going on. One was that we decided as a result of the fact that we were the primary market in many markets, that anyone that wanted to primary market should compensate the people -- us and essentially the people that are contributing to the primary market.

  • And so, we changed our focus towards making sure that we got those people in our orbit as paying customers. And secondly, there just is this overall trend of people wanting more information. As the market fragments, the back-office has to settle the books.

  • What is the price? You've got prices all over the place. And somebody has to stand there and say, this is how we're marketing the books, this is where the market is, a trader and a risk manager have to decide what is going on in this market. What is the price that I should buy at?

  • And all of that fragmentation starts to promote the use of algorithms, the front, middle and back office of consumption of data. And so as we been very transparent with you, we believe that there was going to be a fragmentation trend in the market for years, and have been over the last few years setting ourselves up to be in the growth area, the earnings growth area of that market, which is why we positioned the Company where we have today, and that's why we did well in that space last year.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Dan Fannon, Jefferies.

  • Dan Fannon - Analyst

  • Thanks. Could you guys update us on Trayport and the implications or the proceedings there? And inclusive of your guidance for next year, if we were to strip that out, how that would impact the growth?

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Well, we're in an appeals process around Trayport, so there's no update because we don't know the outcome of that process. As a result of that, I would say to you, it's a business we like, it's a good business, and it's doing well. So it is included in our guidance, consistent with our appeal that we should be the long-term owner of that business.

  • Operator

  • This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jeffrey Sprecher, Chairman and CEO, for any closing remarks.

  • Jeffrey Sprecher - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, Andrew. I just want to thank everybody for joining us today, and Scott and I and Kelly will look forward to updating you on our progress during 2017. So have a good day.

  • Operator

  • The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.