Heritage Insurance Holdings Inc (HRTG) 2025 Q2 法說會逐字稿

Good morning and welcome to the Heritage Insurance Holdings 2nd quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Please note, today's event is being recorded. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0.

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And at this time I would like to turn the conference over to Kirk Lusk, Chief Financial Officer for the company. Please go ahead.

Good morning and thank you for joining us today. We invite you to visit the investors section of our website, investors.heritagepci.com, where the earnings release and our earnings call will be archived. These materials are available for replay or review at your convenience.

Today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based upon management's current expectations and subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances.

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With me on the call today is Ernie Garateix, our Chief Executive Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Ernie.

Thank you, Kirk. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us today.

We delivered strong second quarter results, having achieved net income of $48 million up from [$18.9 million] second quarter a year ago, and maintain the positive trajectory of our earnings.

As we have been discussing on our earning calls over the last year, we continue to see the tangible results from the successful implementation of our strategic initiatives designed to generate positive and consistent shareholder returns by obtaining rate adequacy, managing exposure, and enhancing our underwriting discipline.

This has created a significant level of earnings power within Heritage which has fully shown through this quarter.

As part of that strategy, we reunderwrote our personal lines book while taking needed rate increases to achieve adequate rates.

This led to a steady contraction in our policies in force over the last 4 years of over 200,000 policies.

During the same time frame, our enforced premium has increased from approximately $1.1 billion to $1.4 billion and the diversity of our book has improved.

In the second quarter, our policies enforced decreased by just over 7,700 policies, which was the smallest decrease since we started the initiative in June of 2021.

As previously mentioned, we are in an inflection point in our business where we expect our personal lines policies enforced to slowly increase through the second half of this year, as our new business production continues to ramp up.

New business is up 46% over the second quarter of 2024 and as at the highest level since the second quarter of 2022.

Looking to 2026, we expect growth to accelerate as our new business production is fully ramped up across all of our geographies and our exposure management initiatives are fully behind us.

The catalyst has been achieving great adequacy across the majority of our markets and correspondingly opening those areas up for new business.

There are a few select areas that are still closed, but nearly all of our producing capacity is open for new business.

While it takes time to open our territories and onboard agents, we are seeing good new business momentum across our regions in the Northeast, particularly in New York, as well as the Mid-Atlantic, where Virginia is seeing strong new business trends.

Florida is also a standout market for heritage, given the recent legislative reforms which are having a positive impact on the economics of writing new profitable business and where we have seen a market a marked decline in frivolous lawsuits.

Looking forward, we see significant room for growth and expansions as we continue to build our market share across the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, Southeast, west, and Pacific regions.

Additionally, we see opportunities to expand in new regions of the country as we deliver new products to our insured over time.

Taken together, this presents an open-ended growth opportunity to heritage and our shareholders.

All that said, we will maintain our disciplined underwriting processes as we open new territories and embark on managed growth strategy, which also resulted in a lower net loss ratio this quarter.

As we grow, we're also continuing to invest in and enhance customer service, claims, and claims quality management, as well as technology resources.

We are in our 3rd year of an IT conversion to a guidewire platform.

Our conversion has been going well and is expected to be completed next year.

Once we are fully on the guidewire platform, we will be able to scale the business more efficiently as well as increase our speed of execution.

Turning to reinsurance, we have maintained a stable indemnity-based reinsurance program at manageable cost, with an excellent panel, highly rated and collateralized reinsurers.

Overall, we increased the amount of limit that we purchased by $285 million while our overall costs increased by less than $8 million.

Looking forward, we expect the reinsurance market to see the positive impact of the legislative changes in Florida as Hurricane Milton's claims mature through this year and into next year.

This could have a favorable impact on reinsurance pricing in 2026.

We also believe that the impact of this necessary legislation will be favorable to the consumer in terms of the cost of insurance.

The strength of our results and momentum in our business can also be seen in our recent refinancing of our senior credit facilities, which Kirk will comment on.

We had strong support from our banking partners and upsize our facility while simultaneously achieving more attractive terms, given the demand which ex exceeded our expectations.

As we look to the second half of the year, we also expect to build capital, which will not only position us for accelerating organic growth, but also to consider our capital allocation strategy.

To conclude, our business is at an inflection point as we pivot to manage growth strategy which will return our policies in force to moderate growth through the back half of this year before accelerating in 2026. We are excited with the many opportunities that we see to grow the value of our business.

I would also like to reiterate our dedication to navigating the complexities of our market with a strategic focus that prioritizes long-term profitability, shareholder value, and customer service, all driven by our dedicated workforce.

Kirk Over to you.

Thank you Ernie and good morning everyone.

Starting with our financial highlights, we report a net income of $48.0 million or $1.55 per diluted share in the second quarter. This represents a sharp increase from the $18.9 million or $0.61 per diluted share a year ago second quarter. The increase is primarily driven by decreases in losses and other operating expenses and an increase in net premiums earned.

Gross premiums earned rose to $353.6 million up 1% from $350.1 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting higher gross premiums written over the last 12 months from business growth and rating actions. As we ramp up on recently opened geographies, we expect our growth to accelerate at a managed pace.

Net premiums earned increased to $196.3 million up 3.2% from $190.3 million in the prior quarter, reflecting higher gross premiums earned, as well as a reduction in seeded premiums from the prior year quarter. The reduction in seeded premiums was driven primarily by $10 million reinstatement premiums for Hurricane Ian for the prior year quarter. And which was partially offset by higher seeded premiums in 2025 on our net quota share reinsurance program.

Our net investment income for the quarter was $9 million an $800,000 decrease from the $9.8 million in the prior year quarter, primarily driven by a lower interest rate environment for our sweep accounts and money market funds. We continue to manage our investment portfolio while maintaining a conservative, high quality investments with duration liability matched.

Our total revenues for the quarter were $208 million up 2.2% from $203.6 million in the prior year quarter. This improvement was driven by higher net premiums earned.

Our net loss ratio for the quarter improved 17.2 points to 38.5% as compared to 55.7% in the same quarter last year, reflecting significantly lower net losses in LAE coupled with higher net premiums earned.

Net weather and catastrophe losses for the current year quarter were $12.5 million a decrease of $7.2 million from $19.7 million in the prior year quarter.

There were no catastrophe losses in the current quarter or prior year quarters. The reduction in weather losses was coupled with the reduction in nutritional losses. Our attritional losses have been trending favorably, which we believe is associated with the enhanced underwriting strategy over the last several years. Additionally, the quarter benefited from favorable reserve development compared to the prior year quarter.

Favorable net loss development was $2.3 million in the current year quarter compared to adverse development or $8.7 million in the prior year quarter.

Our net expense ratio for the quarter was 34.4%, a 2.4% improvement from 36.8% in the prior year quarter. This was driven primarily by growth in net premiums earned, coupled with higher seating commission income, which decreased the net policy acquisition costs.

Higher seating commission income was associated with both a large amount of premium seeded and a higher seating commission rate driven by favorable loss experience for the net quota share program. This offset a 1.5% increase in the net GNA expense ratio.

The net combined ratio for the quarter was 72.9%, an improvement of 19.6 points from 92.5% in the prior year quarter, driven by a lower net loss ratio and lower net expense ratio as described.

Turning to our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with total assets of $2.5 billion and shareholders equity of $383.3 million. Our book value per share increased to $12.36 at June 30, 2025, up 30.1% from the fourth quarter of 2024, and up 48.6% from the second quarter of 2024.

The increase from December 31, 2024 is primarily attributable to the net income for the year-to-date, as well as a $11.1 million dollar net of tax benefit associated with a $14.6 million dollar reduction in unrealized losses on the company's fixed income securities portfolio.

The average duration of the fixed income portfolio is [3.04] years, as the company has extended duration from the prior quarter to take advantage of higher yields further out on the yield curve, while still maintaining a short duration, high quality portfolio.

Turning to our senior credit facilities, we refinance the facility on favorable terms, having upsized the facility to $200 million from the previous $150 million dollar facility while extending the maturity to July 2030 from July 2026. Additionally, our new facilities are at a lower cost and provide more flexibility than our previous facility.

I would like to thank our bank partners who are supporting Heritage as we return to growth.

Non-regulated cash at the quarter end was $46.3 million. In addition, statutory capital at quarter end was $329.6 million which is up $76.6 million from the second quarter of 2024. The increase in statutory surplus provides additional growth capacity as we open more territories for new business.

Looking ahead, we remain focused on executing our strategic initiatives is aimed at driving long term shareholder value and providing our policyholders and agents with the service they deserve and expect.

We believe our proactive approach to managing exposures, enhancing rate adequacy, and investing in technology and infrastructure will position as well as for continued success.

Thank you for your time today, operator. We are now ready for questions.

Thank you. We now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press then 1 on your touchtone phone. To withdraw your question, please press 2. At this time we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

And the first question will be from Mark Hughes with Truist. Please go ahead.

Yeah thank you good morning.

Hey morning Mark. Good morning.

I wonder if you could, talk about kind of the attritional loss trajectory as you've seen it develop over the last year and through the second quarter.

If we look at your loss ratio, taking out the cats and other weather.

A little bit of an uptick this quarter. I don't know that that's, we can read much into that given the, all the other moving parts, but I'm just sort of curious from a nutritional loss perspective. Where do we stand now? Is it still trending downward from your perspective? Is it stabilized, have we kind of achieved the benefits of some of these regulatory reforms in your underwriting actions, or is there still. Potentially more to come, how would you describe it?

Yeah, I, I'd say it's, somewhat stabilizing now, and again I mean we receive very adequacy and when you look at it, I mean frequency, has continued to be down and then you know our severity, is running at a relatively modest rate.

Which we, which you would expect with inflation, but frequent a lot of this has been frequency driven, and frequency has been down. Yeah, but I must say I think that probably is going to start leveling off and so I think that we're probably running it to a point where we're, you're running into some stabilization.

Yeah, I guess they should have started out saying buck 55 is a big quarter and so stabilization of a buck 55 would be a pretty good.

But I know you're, targeting growth, and on that point, the, how do you see the competition? There's been some kind of public equity offering activity in Florida.

Obviously losses have improved, substantially, you, you're opening up for growth. What are you finding in terms of agent enthusiasm, level of competition, any.

Anything that you're seeing is as you're going out in the market and looking for new business.

Yeah, what I'd start to say is the agents are enthusiastic that we've opened up. I think we've said we've been closed for quite a bit and now we're about 90%, 95% open in our geographic areas. As far as competition is concerned, we've always said we welcome, responsible competition.

I think everyone is aware that there are new carriers in the state, which is good for the public. But that being said, most of those cars are focusing on the citizens takeout, the depopulation program, and we see that and still focusing on that at least for the next year.

Yeah.

How do you see your rates trending kind of the next for the balance of this year and if you think about next year, I know you made some comments about you expect.

The reinsurance markets to more fully factor the reform and that's, positive for 2026 rates potentially, but how do you think the primary rates, either yours or if you want to broaden it up and say kind of across the states across the state, and here I'm thinking Florida, but you can talk nationally as well, how do you think that'll trend.

Yeah, I think the trend there is going to be, it's going to be up in most geographies, although not to the extent it has been in the past simply from the standpoint of, with us starting to hit rate adequacy, we really don't need the substantial rates to catch up. I would say, almost across the board, the regulators have been very good as far as, us getting adequate rates, and now that that's occurred, I mean, I think that.

Because the rate increases are going to be moderated, there are a few areas here and there where we where we're still needed to catch up a little bit, but I would say that, even in those geographies, that, the discussions there have been very positive and we're getting there very quickly. So from that standpoint I think it's very positive, we do have a fair amount of rates still earning through the portfolio, obviously this year, in the next year, but I do think it is going to moderate.

Yeah, and one more if I might.

The Northeast, New York, I think Virginia where you're seeing policy growth.

How is the loss experience been in in those markets if you see a little more growth oriented to the Northeast, what will that do for the overall loss ratio?

Yeah, actually that will, be positive from the perspective of that is an area where we're still getting probably, a little bit more rate than in the Southeast, so it's a little bit of catch up in the northeast, but, we're nearly there, I would say we recently got some rates approved in the Northeast which are really going to kind of help that, process quite a bit and accelerate it, so the Northeast is by getting a little bit more rate in Southeast, but that's going to, help us into next year.

Appreciate it thank you.

Thank you Mark.

And our next question is from Karol Chmiel from Citizens Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yes, hi, good morning and congrats on the great quarter.

Thank you and, no, and my first question is regarding the catastrophe and weather losses. I'm just curious if you can maybe compare it to the prior year's quarter and maybe the quarter from 2 years ago. Are you seeing any change for that quarter? I know that water is a lot of southeast convective storms, historically, but can you maybe explain the difference between the past two years?

Yeah, well, suppose for example year over year, our non-cat weather for the quarter was down about, $7 million.

A lot of that, we do think has to do with the underwriting of the portfolio where we do think we have better risks, newer roofs, and just the, we've been inspecting and so therefore from that perspective, we think it is a better performing book so therefore it is not as susceptible to some of the severe convective storms. I think that they, have been a little bit lighter, but I also think that some of it has been just indicative of the underwriting performance of the portfolio.

Great, thank you.

And then the second question is regarding the prior period development. Can you con go into detail if this was from the strengthening of the reserves from last year?

Yeah, some of it, is from that strengthening from last year, and again, we did, look at strengthening reserves last year, wanted to make sure that we were, adequate year end that type stuff, and. And again we don't mind, slight movements here in our reserves, up or down that's kind of expected, but you know we want to be as close.

I think that, when we look at the favorable development now, for the quarter, I think that is very positive and actually we're favorable for the full year-to-date also. So, you know that that that's the trend we like to see, and again I think that you know some of it does have is reflective of the strengthening we took last year.

Understood. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

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The next question is from Paul Newsome from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Oh, good morning, maybe you could just unpack a little bit more some of the expected, 5th growth, by region, and where you think, opportunistically.

Maybe you'll get better from a policy perspective.

Florida versus New York versus other states and, to start with that.

Yeah, so let's start with the Mid-Atlantic, right? Virginia is a state we entered a couple of years ago that's been performing pretty well, and we do see Pip growth coming from Virginia as well as we opened up in New York, again, we received some rate there, that put us at rate adequacy. We've opened that up and the agents have, really kind of going on to, writing new business there so the Northeast will see growth and 5.

As well as the Mid-Atlantic in Florida, as we mentioned, we are reopened, and we're seeing the decline in, the policy count there not leveling off, but we expect that to be a positive number growing up here in the next quarter. Again, California is growing from a pi count, and Hawaii has also opened up again since we're rate adequate. So we do see the total pi count coming from various sectors of the different regions that we're in.

Right, that, that's wonderfully helpful.

Any thought on underlying, you know, property claim trends that just from a claim trend perspective, is it fairly stable at this point?

Yeah, I would say it definitely is, so looking at our three year, frequency trend, it's actually down about 0.9%. So I mean that, that's almost, you're pretty flat severity on a 3 year basis is up about 5.4%. If you look at a 5 year basis it's up about 4.4%. So really those are, I would say, numbers that are, very solid and very manageable as opposed to, some of the COVID years which we're clicking up rather substantially. So, it's really started to moderate and and look very positive at this point.

Alright thanks appreciate it.

Thank you.

You.

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back to Ernie Gerta for any closing remarks.

We appreciate everybody gave me a call today and I hope everyone has a great day.

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