Home Bancorp Inc (HBCP) 2024 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Home Bancorp's fourth quarter 2024 earnings.

(Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Home Bancorp's Chairman, President and CEO, John Bordelon; and Chief Financial Officer, David Kirkley.

Mr. Kirkley, please go ahead.

Thank you, Jennifer.

Good morning, and welcome to Home Bank's fourth quarter 2024 earnings call.

Our earnings release and investor presentation are available on our website.

I'd ask that everyone please refer to the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements in the investor presentation and our SEC filings.

Now I'll hand it over to John to make a few comments about the year and the fourth quarter.

John?

Thanks, David.

Good morning, and thank you for joining our earnings call today from snowy Louisiana.

We appreciate your interest in Home Bank as we discuss our results, expectations for the future and our approach to creating long-term shareholder value.

Yesterday afternoon, we reported fourth quarter net income of $9.7 million or $1.21 per share, with net interest margin expanding for the third consecutive quarter to 3.82%.

Fourth quarter's NIM expansion was driven by a 15 basis point decline in the cost of interest-bearing liabilities, an increase in the average non-interest-bearing deposits, stable yields on interest-earning assets and a slight increase in our loan-to-deposit ratio.

After a slow October, loan growth picked up in November and December, resulting in fourth quarter annualized loan growth of 7.5%, which helped push our 2024 loan growth to 5.3%.

CRE, construction and multifamily drove most of the $50 million of loan growth in the fourth quarter.

Originations have remained strong in the first few weeks of January, but it's too early in the year to change our guidance.

Therefore, we will continue to expect loans to grow between 4% and 6% in 2025.

Deposits were flat from last year, but grew by 4.1% in 2024, with most of the growth coming from customers moving into money market accounts and CDs.

Non-interest-bearing deposits were down slightly in 2004 (sic - see slide 17, "2024") , but make up a strong 26% of total deposits at year-end.

We continue to look at opportunities for strategic expansion.

But as you probably know by now, we're not going to do a deal unless it checks all the boxes.

We do plan to open a new branch in Northwest Houston, which should help develop the valuable franchise we're building there.

As a reminder, at the beginning of 2024, we hired a commercial team in Northwest Houston and they're making great progress developing relationships.

As I said last quarter, we feel very good about Home Bank's outlook and our ability to perform.

We think our success in 2024 demonstrates that.

Our focus on customer service, expanding relationships with new and existing customers and maintaining our solid credit culture continues to build shareholder value and demonstrates the strength of our bank.

We remain confident in our outlook and think that NIM and earnings will continue to expand in 2025.

With that, I'll turn it back over to David, our Chief Financial Officer.

Thanks, John.

After increasing for the last 2.5 years, we saw a 15 basis point decrease in the cost of interest-bearing liabilities in the fourth quarter, which, as John mentioned, supported a healthy 11 basis point increase in NIM.

It also supported the third consecutive quarter of increasing net interest income, which was $31.6 million in the fourth quarter, an increase of $1.2 million or 4% from the previous quarter.

We think we have an opportunity to bring funding costs down incrementally over the first half of the year, assuming the yield curve does not invert again.

We have approximately $555 million or 76% of CDs maturing in the next 6 months with a weighted average rate of 4.48%, which is about 40 basis points above Q4 origination rates.

As you can see on Slide 18, we were able to reduce the weighted average CD rate by 26 basis points in the fourth quarter, so we're already making good progress there.

It also shows we haven't reduced rates on non-maturity deposits as quickly as their blended rate is already low at 1.73%.

The bottom right table on Slide 20, shows our cycle funding betas, and you can see that we are early in the process of easing deposit rates.

We also replaced $135 million of 4.76% BTFP advances in the fourth quarter of lower-cost short-term FHLB advances.

Yields on earning assets were flat quarter-over-quarter at 5.82% despite the 100 basis points of rate cuts by the Fed.

Reported loan yields were also flat at 6.43% from the prior quarter.

We did see a 3 basis point boost in loan yield from a recognition of $189,000 of loan income on a non-performing relationship that paid off in December.

Our loan portfolio is 61% fixed which slowed asset yield increases when rates were rising, but now provides yield protection from Fed rate cuts and supports an expanding NIM.

The steepening of the yield curve has also provided some spread expansion and should offer prepayment protection.

As John mentioned, loan originations picked up in November and December.

The $50 million of fourth quarter originations had a blended yield of 7.75% which is about 130 basis points higher than our current loan portfolio yield.

The increase in originations contributed to the higher fourth quarter loan loss provision of $873,000 and increased the loan-to-deposit ratio to 97.8%.

Slides 14 and 15 of our presentation provides some additional detail on credit.

Credit remains very strong with net charge-offs of 4 basis points in 2024, which followed 0 basis points in '23 and 3 basis points in 2022.

Fourth quarter non-performing assets decreased $2.7 million to $15.6 million or 0.45% of total assets.

The decline was primarily due to an upgrade of a $3.2 million C&I loan.

Our allowance for loan loss ratio was stable from the third quarter at 1.21%.

Slide 21, of the presentation has some additional details on non-interest income and expenses.

Fourth quarter noninterest income decreased slightly to $3.6 million and should be between $3.6 million and $3.8 million over the next two quarters.

Noninterest expense increased by $97,000 to $22.4 million, which was in line with expectations.

We expect noninterest expenses to increase by 3.5% in 2025.

Most of the increases will be in compensation and technology-related and will be offset by some reductions in occupancy expenses.

We only repurchased 2,000 shares in the fourth quarter, but we still have 312,000 shares on our 2023 repurchase plan and will be active buyers at market volatility warrants it.

Slide 22 and 23 summarize the impact of capital management strategy has had on Home Bank.

Over the last 5 years, we grew tangible book value per share at a 7.1% annualized growth rate while growing tangible book value per share adjusted for AOCI at 9.2%.

Over the same period, we also increased EPS at an 8.3% annualized growth rate.

We've increased our dividends per share by 20% and repurchased 14% of our total shares.

And we've done this while maintaining robust capital ratios.

This positions us to be successful in varying economic environments and to take advantages of any opportunities that may arise.

With that, operator, please open the line for Q&A.

Thank you.

We will now begin the question and answer session.

(Operator Instructions)

Joe Yanchunis, Raymond James.

Good morning.

good morning, Joe.

So I was hoping you could dig a little more into your thoughts on your expectation for kind of the NIM to expand throughout 2025.

Is that inclusive of a static rate environment?

Or does that include any rate cuts?

I know that your balance sheet shift as being more neutral in posture.

Just any kind of color you could give on that would be appreciated.

Yeah.

We -- I mean, both in the base case and a slight rate cut environment, we do expect NIM to continue to expand as loans reprice higher.

And our CD portfolio has the opportunity to reprice a little bit lower.

As we mentioned, we really weren't overly aggressive on cutting any -- much of our money market rates and in Q4, we still have the opportunity to lower some of those costs a little bit.

The bottom line is it's the mix of our loan portfolio and the fact that we don't have as many variable rate loans, so we don't have as much pressure on declining loan yields from Fed rate cuts.

We just have the opportunity to reprice higher and get a little bit of pick up with some higher yields in the investment portfolio, but not a significant amount from the investment portfolio pick up.

But bottom line is just a mix of our maturing liabilities and being able to reprice loans higher than we have on the balance sheet right now.

Okay, I appreciate that.

And then, in your response you talked about and then I as well as in your prepared remarks that you didn't really cut your money market rates in 4Q you know, kind of given that uptick in your loan to deposit ratio, how should we think about, kind of downrate beta and you know, the cadence as we move throughout the year?

Yeah.

I think once again, our deposit betas may be a little bit slower on the nonmaturity deposit side just because we didn't really raise them as high as some of our competitors and had a little bit maybe higher CD rates towards the back half of 2024.

We still have the ability to reduce some of our money market rates, and we're actively managing them.

We do have some pockets here and there that we can incrementally lower those money market rates without having really a significant impact on deposit runoffs.

In December, we did see a decline in noninterest DDA accounts.

That was more of a function of timing as opposed to customers leaving the bank.

So we are optimistic that we're going to rightsize the loan deposit ratio a little bit better than what ended at year-end.

And we may have to be a little bit more aggressive about perhaps on money markets.

We are seeing a little bit more CD competition, market prices rising a little bit in the CD space.

So we are cognizant of that.

Even with an uptick in new CD originations, we still are pretty confident that NIM will be expanding throughout 2025.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

And just one more for me here.

So, when is your Northwestern Houston branch expected to open?

And I assume that's based into your non-interest expense outlook of or the growth of 3.5%.

And yes, why would opening that other branch, you know, lead to a decrease in occupancy expense?

Okay.

So there's two parts to that.

We actually got out of our lease -- our last lease from the Texan Bank acquisition in September of '24, and that was their corporate headquarters.

So that was a sizable chunk, which is going to help reduce occupancy expense in '25.

And we're looking at Northwest Houston, where we're evaluating options.

We're evaluating locations.

And we don't anticipate that opening until more towards the back half '25.

And that's why we see a reduction in occupancy expense in '25.

And just -- I'm sorry, just to be clear, the Northwest Houston, we do currently have an LPO there, and we're going to convert that to a full service branch.

I appreciate it.

Thank you for taking your questions.

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Thank you.

(Operator Instructions)

Feddie Strickland, Hovde Group.

Hey, good morning.

Just wanted to continue the expense question here.

I appreciate the overall cut and the detail you just gave.

But beyond the April 1, salary adjustments in that branch opening later in the year, which sounds like it may not be a huge expense as you already have the LPO there.

Is there any lumpiness to account for throughout the year?

On the expense side?

Not specifically.

As we said -- you said it, raises take effect April 1.

So you're going to see an uptick in Q2.

We do have some projects that are planned throughout the year.

But really, I don't foresee or expect any lumpiness.

I'm sure something will come up, but we don't have anything baked in right now that would -- that looks -- that is going to appear to be a significant impact to any quarter.

One of the initiatives that we're bringing on -- actually brought on late fourth quarter and focusing on 2025 is changing customer behavior.

And the end result of change in that behavior of utilizing branches to the degree that they do.

We have two branches that we're analyzing right now where 90% of the transactions are depositing a check or cashing a check.

So if we can change the behaviors of our customer base, then surely that would have a positive impact on our expense base as we can reduce and potentially close some branches.

So that's an initiative that we're working hard on.

Not sure how far we'll get in 2025, but we're going to work very hard to change the habits of our customers to utilize more technology.

Got you.

No, that's helpful.

And just wanted to switch to loans.

Just wondering if you could talk about what kind of loans you have in the pipeline?

Will it be a sort of similar mix to what you did this quarter?

And longer term, where do you see the most opportunity for growth?

Well, we're focusing a lot on C&I.

We have done in 2024, probably a little more multifamily than we historically have done.

But our leadership is dedicated towards more C&I loans and less nonowner occupied.

So I think that's going to be the focus going forward in all of our markets.

And if you look at the last 4 years, the relationship managers that we've brought in have all been C&I-type lenders.

So that's where we want to focus because it brings in the whole relationship.

It's not a deposit either.

It's a deposit provider and it has a wide variety of opportunities in the lending space.

So that's going to be our focus.

Understood.

That makes sense.

And then on the loan side as well, I mean, it sounds like you guys think you can keep pushing yields up some here, given some of the back book repricing and new production.

Was just wondering if you could talk about what you're seeing in some of the competition, competitive pricing pressures on the loan side whether there's any incremental changes quarter-to-quarter or any new entrants or anything like that, that we need to keep in mind?

I think there was a little bit of pressure when rates were dropping in the third quarter.

Then as long side of the yield curve kind of went back up in the fourth quarter, pricing has somewhat stabilized a little bit.

So if we're pricing off of prime, we do -- I think we have baked in, in 2025 to 25 basis point rate cut.

So we'll see rates come down a little bit there.

But for the most part, as David pointed out in the script that we're still anticipating what's going to mature in '25 and '26 will have a higher yield for us than what it has currently.

So we're still looking for that loan rate expansion.

Understood.

And last question for me.

I appreciate the guide on the non-interest income growth.

Can you talk a little bit about how do you expect core fees versus gain on sale over time?

I know it's a little tougher environment for gain on sale stuff, but just wonder if you can talk about pipelines there and kind of where maybe we see that mix of fee income coming from in future quarters?

Yes.

That's a little difficult from the standpoint.

Most of our fee income probably comes from the deposit side.

We're not sure what CFPB is going to push down, what OCC is going to push down from CFPB in that regard.

So there's potential problems in some of those fees.

But do you have any other comments?

Yeah.

So some of the fee income that has been volatile is the SBA loan sales and mortgage loan sales.

We do anticipate some uptick in that from 2024.

And we've been pretty successful at increasing our charger management fees.

As John pointed out, there's been a C&I focus and hiring the C&I lenders that are getting a lot more operating accounts and we've increased our treasury management platform over the past couple of years, and that has driven nice increases year-over-year over the past couple of years, and we continue to expect further development from that space as well.

Got it.

Thanks for taking my questions.

I'll step back.

Thank you.

This concludes our question and answer session.

I would now like to turn the conference back over to John for any closing remarks.

Once again, thank you for joining us today.

We look forward to speaking with many of you in the coming days.

And thank you for your interest in Home Bancorp.

Have a great day.

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