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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Quarter 2012 Hyatt Hotels Corporation Earnings Conference Call.

  • My name is Shaquana, and I will be your coordinator for today.

  • At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode.

  • We will facilitate a question and answer session towards the end of this conference.

  • (Operator Instructions.) I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr.

  • Atish Shah, Head of Investor Relations.

  • Please proceed, sir.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Thank you, very much.

  • Good day, everybody, and thank you for joining us for Hyatt's First Quarter 2012 Earnings Call.

  • Here with me in Chicago, today are Mark Hoplamazian, Hyatt's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Harmit Singh, Hyatt's Chief Financial Officer.

  • Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that we have a different format to our earnings call this quarter.

  • Mark will make a few introductory comments, and then we will read and respond to the questions which we have received by email this morning.

  • We have not screened the questions, but have grouped them by category.

  • We intend to take follow up questions via live Q&A for the final 15 to 20 minutes of the call.

  • Before I turn it over to Mark, let me remind everyone -- and are considered forward-looking statements.

  • So before we get started, let me remind everyone that certain statements made on this call are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking statements.

  • These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties as described in our Annual Report on Form 10-K and other SEC filings, which could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in, or implied by our comments.

  • Forward-looking statements in the earnings release that we issued earlier this morning, along with the comments on this call are made only as of today, May 3rd, 2012, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update any of these forward-looking statements as actual events unfold.

  • You can find the reconciliation of Non-GAAP financial measures referred to in our remarks on our website at Hyatt.com, under the press release section of our Investor Relations link, and in this morning's earnings release.

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • Thank you, Atish, and good morning everyone.

  • Thank you for joining us.

  • We've received a number of questions.

  • Thank you for the engagement and the participation, and we look forward to turning to those in just a moment.

  • I want to cover a few topics before we cover the questions.

  • First, first quarter results.

  • 2012 was really off to a good start.

  • I think when you look at North American group and transient revenue growing in the high single digits, and the group booking in the first quarter, both bookings in the quarter for the quarter, and in the quarter for the year were quite encouraged by the level of demand that we see.

  • We had recently renovated hotels that are performing well.

  • We've got great feedback from guests and meeting planners alike.

  • Occupancy lift has been significantyear over year, and we're looking forward to for the rate growth, later in this year.

  • And finally, as to the first quarter the hotels that we acquired from LodgeWorks are doing well.

  • Progression has been very strong.

  • RevPAR progression has been very strong.

  • RevPAR index expansion has been very strong.

  • And we have really seen the positive results of the high brand and the Gold Passport customer penetration into those hotels.

  • Second, we announced yesterday the acquisition of a hotel in Mexico City.

  • We're very excited about this.

  • This will be a Hyatt Regency in Mexico City.

  • We are very excited about establishing our presence there, especially in this location.

  • And we have been looking at building our brand presence there for some time.

  • The level of travel to Mexico has been quite strong,both in leisure as well as business travel.

  • And overall the economic trajectory in Latin America is quite positive.

  • We are very happy with the acquisition, the all in cost including an approximately $40 million renovation, will bring us in just over $300,000 per key, which we believe is well below replacement costs.

  • Most importantly, it's really consistent with our strategy of how we intend to use our balance sheet, which is to really secure opportunities in gateway cities, and eventually this hotel will -- we will look to recycle it, and sell it, but retain the long term management contract.

  • But we really believe that the repositioning of the hotel, the branding of it and some other work we are going to do will have a positive impact.

  • Third, I want to talk briefly about the organizational changes that we announced yesterday.

  • We have covered quite a lot of ground over the last few years, and establish a add great foundation for a future.

  • We built a lot of capabilities, and added a lot of resources over the last several years.

  • As we look forward, we recognize that our business mix shift will shift over time as we open hotels in our pipeline.

  • We also recognize the velocity of the changes in consumer behavior is increasing.

  • There's a large increase of consumers and business travelers in places like China and India, and that will change the profile of our customer base over time.

  • And the key principle that we are really following in the realignment that we announced, are first higher effectiveness of the organization through better alignment, and secondly to be more adaptive.

  • We believe that we can increase our effectiveness and our performance overtime by being a more adaptive company.

  • Some of the targets that we addressed in the realignment, include better aligning operations, and development in our operating regions.

  • Pushing more decision making to the regions, to the hotels themselves, to better ensure that we can rapidly implement innovations in each region, and to unify what we're doing in appropriate ways.

  • That is to behave as one company, ensuring consistency across the globe, but also allowing the local flavor of each region to be reflected in our operations.

  • A quick comment on personnel changes.

  • We have announced a number of different moves and changes.

  • We -- by way of reminder, our two principle drivers of earnings growth are improvements in our existing operations and our existing hotels.

  • And secondly, expanding our presence through additional hotels into the Hyatt brand.

  • And a lot of what we are doing is really leading towards the application of operations experience, and a focus on insuring that we are pushing as hard as we can to maximize our performance in our existing hotels.

  • And at the same time, creating better alignment so that we can do more and do it faster, with respect to growth of the -- of high branded properties.

  • Finally, a quick note on our outlook.

  • The industry dynamics are generally very good.

  • In the U.S., supply is still at a relatively low level.

  • And as we look around the world, global travel continues to grow.

  • We are seeing a lot more intra-country, and intra-regional travel in places like China and India.

  • And that is having an impact on how we have gone to market, and how we think about driving preference in these markets.

  • Our goals have not changed in the manner that we are realigning the organization.

  • Our goals remain to be the most preferred brand in each segment we serve, and we think about doing that by being able to be focused on what our customer's needs are in each market.

  • We continue to focus on developing our people, and see higher levels of engagement over time.

  • And our brand awareness continues to grow.

  • And moves like establishing a presence in a gateway city like Mexico City, clearly promote that.

  • Our business model continues to work well.

  • We've had growth -- if you look at our pipeline progression over time, it's been significant in the recent past of 15% growth year over year.

  • And if you look at the way in which we have actually grown and pursued expansion, we've been using all of the tools available to us including some transactions that involve using our capital base, but also management and franchising.

  • And it's been quite effective.

  • So we believe that with our capital base, with our focus, and with our new realignment that we are extremely well positioned as we look forward to improving conditions.

  • And with that, I'll turn it over to Atish.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Thank you, Mark.

  • That concludes our prepared remarks, now I'll begin by reading the submitted questions, and Mark and Harmit will respond as appropriate.

  • So the first topic is SG&A.

  • We received several questions on SG&A, and they were really asking for main topics.

  • One was the color on SG&A, in the quarter, describing the nature of these items.

  • And then the second was future SG&A costs, whether the costs in the quarter represent a higher run rate, or what the number should be for full year.

  • Whether first quarter a good run rate, and lastly, the question was why was this not communicated earlier.

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • Great.

  • Thanks, Atish.

  • And good morning to everybody on the call.

  • Let me start with the overall color.

  • Our SG&A costs were higher in quarter one when you compared to a year ago, but broadly in line with our internal expectations.

  • Because we don't necessarily guide in -- it's difficult for us to indicate a line by line what costs of revenues are.

  • But just want to make sure that everybody understands, broadly in line with our internal expectations.

  • The first half of the year, which is 2012, relative to year, our expectation in terms of SG&A cost increases would be higher than the second half, primarily driven by two reasons.

  • One, as we expand our presence globally, we recruited both development, real estate, finance and legal recruit folks in the second half of last year.

  • So the impact of that on an analyzed basis will impact the first half of 2012.

  • And the second is the one time (inaudible) get into which we just experienced in the -- in quarter one.

  • The way to look at this is cost for the quarter, split into three buckets.

  • A third is one timers which I'll just explain.

  • A third cost related to expanding our presence globally.

  • And a third of what I call basic baseline costs.

  • One timers in quarter, one which is approximately, I would say $7 million -- $6 million or $7 million dollars, basically relate to a couple of things.

  • As you know, we're relaunching and converting our extended stay properties to Hyatt House, the signage and conversion costs as related to that.

  • We had -- we reserved some bad debts for -- basically, two properties against small in terms of number of properties.

  • So that impacted the first quarter.

  • And then there were legal fees that relate to the termination of one hotel outside the U.S.

  • So that's broadly explaining the third.

  • The remaining costs, as I said, equally split between expanding for the future and base line costs.

  • As we -- the second question related to what's the expectation as we think through the year, I'd say we're looking at potentially SG&A costs increasing in the double digit, low double digit to low teens, on an -- in a full year analyze bases, and that would incorporate costs that were impacting quarter one on a one time basis.

  • The only thing I would say in summary is that as Mark mentioned about an organization realignment, these costs do not include any costs related to the realignment.

  • We're in the process of quantifying that, and will advise all of you over the next coming quarters.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Okay, we had two questions related to SG&A, in particular the call out on Hyatt House.

  • They are as follows.

  • "Are there any additional brand initiatives forthcoming for some of your more mature concepts?" And two, "How much do you expect to spend on brand development this year?"

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • In terms of -- we established an innovation team last year, and we are looking on a regular basis about innovating and meeting customer needs as they change over time.

  • And that's included in the numbers that I talked to you or mentioned to you in terms of the outlook for 2012.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Shifting gear as bit.

  • "Concentrating on Mexico, what's the strategic rational for the deal, Why did the new -- what did the new property do in EBITDA last year?

  • What's the forecast for this year?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • The strategic rational, this is Mark, for the Mexico City deal was really to establish a key presence in a large gateway city.

  • Mexico City is a top global market.

  • We don't have a current presence in Mexico City.

  • This particular property is extremely well located.

  • It's in the Blanca area, and it overlooks the Chapultepec Park.

  • And it's actually in hotel zone with a lot of other first class hotels.

  • It is a large hotel, which will allow us to establish a significant presence.

  • It's currently situated with 756 rooms, but post renovation will have 734 rooms.

  • And the forecast outlook for the year, we expect to close the transaction in May.

  • And we would expect EBITDA level earnings in the range of $8 million to $10 million for the remainder of the year.

  • If you look at the overall market and travel patterns, travel to Mexico has been quite strong, especially from the U.S.

  • both leisure and business travel.

  • And when you look at the prospects for this hotel, there are several things going on.

  • The first is it be rebranded, and I think that the high branding will make a significant difference to the volume that we can bring through the travel base that we can bring to the hotel.

  • Secondly, the renovation which we currently estimate to be about a $40 million investment, will include the expansion of the meeting space at the hotel as well.

  • The hotel currently has roughly a 15% group mix, and we expect that to expand over time, both because of our revenue management and our group base of businesses but also because we're doing some reprogramming within the hotel.

  • Overall, we looked at this transaction, and concluded that it was really attractive on a stand-alone basis.

  • If you just look at the economics of the deal itself.

  • But clearly from a strategic perspective, we do have further plans to -- and we are focused on growing our presence in Mexico, both business and leisure locations.

  • And having a significant, good presence, prominent presence in Mexico City is key to that initiative.

  • Now the last thing I would say is that this is consistent with our approach to using our balance sheet.

  • And we do expect that over time we will look to recycle this asset, that is dispose of it, but retain the long term management contract, at -- upon any sale.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Next question, was, "Can you talk about where the Mexico City property was in the prior cycle, and where you think it can get to post conversion, say in three to five years?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • Yeah, I don't -- I can't really go back into historical detail to give you a sense for where it is.

  • It's clearly below peek.

  • But the comparability of that to the operation of the hotel under our management is really difficult to establish.

  • Especially in view of the fact that we do expect to change the mix of business in the hotel.

  • We clearly expect that there will be a lift from the branding, as well as the renovation,which we expect to execute over the next 2.5 to three years.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • "Should we assume Hyatt will continue to look for real estate in this region?

  • Similarly, is the company interested in buying real estate in Europe?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • So as to real estate acquisition in the region, the answer is that many transactions in different parts of Latin America do require capital in different ways.

  • And we have looked at other opportunities and we will continue to.

  • Again, consistent with ourapproach, which is establishing presence in key gate way cities, looking to expand our resort presence, and also supporting our group business.

  • This is the three areas we have talks about, historically, as being important to us.

  • We also believe there's a significant opportunity for select service development in Latin America in general.

  • And we have been applying a lot of resources to that.

  • In fact, we have our first Hyatt places that are opening up outside of the U.S., include one hotel this year in Latin America.

  • In terms of Europe, yes, we certainly are paying attention to and looking for opportunities there.

  • It certainly hasn't generated any (inaudible) -- the tumult in the market is not generated any opportunities for us yet.

  • But we continue to look for opportunities, especially because our presence in Europe remains relatively modest, and there are a lot of attractive markets into which we would like to further expand.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • We received one related questions about updates that we could share regarding our development site in Rio.

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • Yeah, so we completed the acquisition of a site in Rio.

  • And we continue to refine the design plans and the construction estimates the, the project.

  • So at this point, it is pre development costs that we are incurring to move the project along, which we will continue to do.

  • We are looking forward in time to the Olympics in 2016, and ensuring that we put ourselves on a path to have the hotel open and ready for that,prior to that.

  • And we will over time engage with potential partners, and look to establish a partnership a JV of some kind in taking that project forward.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Shifting gear as bit, we received a few questions on group business, pricing, bookings for the remainder of the year and pace.

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • Yeah, sure.

  • Let me start by saying in our group business in the quart err was strong.

  • Our revenue was up 9%, primarily driven by demand.

  • Pace for the year is up 4%, again, primarily driven by demand, 2/3 demand, 1/3 rate.

  • Our bookings in the quarter, for the quarter were fairly strong.

  • They were up 20%, and they were equally distributed between rate increases and demand increases.

  • In the quarter, for the quarter -- in the quarter for the year bookings were up 30%, and that was really driven by rates.

  • Rates were up about 6%,

  • So overall, the strength we saw in the group business in the quarter primarily came from corporate.

  • And in terms of sectors, there were largely driven by consulting technology, and IT.

  • With the sectors that were the prime drivers of the group business growth that we saw in the quarter.

  • In terms of windows, still fairly short.

  • Many meetings been booked within 90 days.

  • So overall, I think that probably addresses most of the questions, Atish.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Yes.

  • One additional question, "Which corporate segments have seen the most and least relative strength to date in 2012, and what are your early thoughts for 2013 corporate rates?"

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • The -- in terms of the sectors, as I mentioned, it's really consulting technology and IT being strong.

  • In terms of least strong, less strong.

  • It's really the (inaudible) and financial sector.

  • In terms of the question about all 13 rates it is too early to tell at this point in time.

  • And over time, we'll get a better sense of that.

  • Having said that, I would say as I think about the bookings for '13, or '14, continue to grow.

  • Or '13, I think we probably have about 45% of the business on our books.

  • And '14, we probably have 30% of the business on our books.

  • And rates are picking up.

  • Rates are up 2% when you compare this for the bookings at this time last year.

  • So I think overall trends are looking decent.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Okay, "Can you give us a sense of how the development of Andaz's tracking versus your expectations?

  • What does your future pipeline look like for the brand, particularly across North America?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • So Andaz evolution has been really encouraging and exciting to watch.

  • We are seeing an increasing base of customers who are identifying with the brand and seeking it out.

  • That's reflected in the performance that we have seen in the individual hotels.

  • We have eight Andaz hotels and operating currently.

  • And we've converted two full service hotels, Andaz hotels, in the first quarter.

  • We have about half a dozen in the pipeline at this point, mostly outside of the U.S.

  • And in some really attractive and important cities, both for the Andaz customer base, but also for Hyatt, overall.

  • We're less than five years into the rollout of the brand post launch.

  • I think the traction has been very good.

  • And I think that the -- there's been a positive impact to the rest of the portfolio, as Gold Passport members are discovering Andaz.

  • And so we --it remains a significant brand in the dialog with developers that we are already doing business with, in China, India, and in other markets.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • "What type of performance does the company expect out of the LodgeWorks portfolio, and how much does management expect it to contribute to margin?

  • And how would the initial integration process been tracking?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • I'll address some of that.

  • The results that we other seeing are tracking slightly ahead of what we actually expected.

  • We had looked forward into 2012 when were -- last year after we completed the acquisition looked forward into 2012, and estimated that the Lodge Works portfolio would contribute about $40 million of net EBITDA.

  • And as I said, we are tracking slowly ahead of this -- ahead of that at this stage.

  • The RevPAR progression has been very solid.

  • And a part of that has to do with the, expansion of the high customer base into those properties, as well as managed corporate travel.

  • We've been able to secure more volume account business for the hotels relative to their prior branding.

  • The integration has been superb.

  • The LodgWorks team to a person has really been a joy to welcome into the Hyatt family, and both on the operations side, but also on the development side.

  • We've really identified and are pursuing a number of opportunities for new developments, which really came with the team from LodgeWorks.

  • And they take many different forms.

  • We are certainly pursuing them with the idea, that to the extent that we end up developing them ourselves that we do it with partners, we look for potential buyers for those properties over time.

  • We don't expect to engage in an extensive development program on our own balance sheet.

  • But we will apply capital to get projects moving, and to seek out good partnerships, and I'm very encouraged by the flow that I have seen to date.

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • In terms of some specifics, LodgeWorks earnings, as well as margins, I'd say in the quarter about $10 million is -- of income in EBITBA, is thanks to LodgeWorks which we are very happy with.

  • In terms of margins, because LodgeWorks is not truly competitive, we did the acquisition in late last year, our comparable margins will not include the LodgeWorks margin.

  • But if you look at the difference between total margins, and the comparable margins, total margins is up I think about 270 basis points, and comparable margin is up 120 basis points.

  • The different is primarily driven by LodgeWorks and the Woodfin acquisition.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Following on that question, "How should we be thinking about the quarterly impact of LodgeWorks, and or renovations during the remainder of 2012".

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • Let me talk about renovations for a minute, where we give some color on the renovations.

  • Overall we are very pleased with the progress as our properties and the rooms that we renovated come back into inventory.

  • Our big hotels in San Francisco and New York, in particular,k are doing very well.

  • And we're very pleased with how that's progressed.

  • Looking at the comparable margins, margins were up 120 basis points.

  • I'd say about 190 basis points increased quarter over quarter was driven by the big 5 properties that we renovated.

  • We had some renovations going on in -- to a smaller extent in a couple of properties, Long Beach, Lake Tahoe for example, and our select portfolio.

  • That hurt margins by approximately 60 basis points.

  • So overall on a net basis, renovations drove 130 basis points increase in margins per quarter over quarter.

  • We had two properties that were a little weaker, largely international properties for what -- for specific reasons, that hurt margins by a hundred and -- by about 80 basis points.

  • So on a net basis, our base business was up 70 basis points.

  • If you do the math that's how it actually worked out.

  • So overall, we continue to be pleased with the progress on margins.

  • As we look at costs, we continue to drive productivity.

  • Our operators are doing a phenomenal job from that perspective.

  • Our costs per occupied room is actually down.

  • Despite a increase in demand, as measured by a room, so overall, we're very happy with how the margins have progressed through the quarter.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Okay, "Are are corporations more welcome to book further out?

  • Either transient or group?

  • On your last call, you, note you noted caution from corporate customers."

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • We haven't seen any material change.

  • Still a lot of activity within 90 days.

  • Large hotels, hotels that have over 650 rooms, which represent about half a group business for full service hotels in North America, are seeing I would say low double digit increases.

  • Which is largely driven by association or inter group business, and smaller hotels which are represent about 10% of our total group business, seeing a slightly higher.

  • So I think over time, we'll provide more color as things pick up.

  • Just as a reference point, I'd indicated to you the increase in the business for '13, or '14, so that's steadily improving and largely driven by rate.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • "Any market specific commentary?

  • New York City, demand trends or trends from financial industry?"

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • I think New York has been good.

  • I think the market is seeing mid to high single digit increases.

  • For us, we've got a New York product, whether it's the Andaz which at New York, the recently renovated Grand Hyatt Hotel, so we are seeing increases higher than that on a world market basis.

  • Trends from financial -- the financial sector have been reasonable, both in the transit and group demand site in quarter 1.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Shifting gears, "You recently announced a number of transitions across the organization.

  • Why did the company go with an insider for the CFO position as opposed to an external candidate"?

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • So I'll just address, excuse me, the overall alignment, realignment of the organization.

  • I mentioned in my introductory remarks the principals, and those principals are really reflected in both the shape of the organization, as well as some of the personnel moves.

  • We have -- in virtually every area of the company, been looking at ways in which we can bring operating experience, to the operations experience, to how we try to find opportunities for improvements.

  • And that also included bringing a deeper operations experience to the finance function.

  • The incoming CFO, Gebhard Rainer, had held finance functions in his past at Hyatt.

  • He's actually worked through -- was in Chicago in that role as we --as the Company worked through the preparation to become public ready.

  • So Sarbanes-Oxley initiatives and the control environments, so he has exposure to those issues but he also has a more extensive operations background.

  • We believe that that will fit well with the realigned organization.

  • And we also remain focused on insuring that all that we're doing both in terms of alignment of the organization, as well as how we are applying our resources as we move forward, are designed to continue to drive our two primary areas of earnings growth,which are improving operations, improving existing operations, as well as expansion, through additional Hyatt branded hotels.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Okay, one more question, "Why is the CFO resigning?"

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • I'll take that.

  • Let me start by saying that overall I'm a big supporter of Hyatt's strategy both in the past and as it looks forward.

  • In fact, Mark mentioned in the announcement, I was part of a team that helped create that over the last couple of years.

  • And I intend to stay on as a guest, and a stockholder over time.

  • You know, for the reasons I think Mark mentioned, as he discussed his outlook for his senior team, Mark felt it beneficial to have someone with deeper hotel operational experience.

  • I've had operational experience in different industries and in hotel is something that one was picking up over time.

  • I think on that basis concluded it is probably best to pursue other opportunities after a transition period.

  • I must say I have enjoyed the time at Hyatt, learned a great deal, and I think we as a team here, have especially in the finance function, have accomplished a lot.

  • Whether it was getting the company ready to go public, working through the IPO, which is fairly successful, and then importantly, delivering on the commitments we made to all of you and our investors who invested during the IPO process.

  • I'm proud of the team that I leave behind.

  • I think it is fairly talented.

  • And I'm committed to the transition, and that's why I think it is important to work through, and make sure we transfer the baton to Gephard over the next couple of months.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • "Would you characterize what you are currently seeing in the hotel markets, specificallyare there any signs that lead you to believe that the number of hotel transactions will accelerate later this year?

  • "

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • I think right now what we're seeing and hearing, actually, maybe is more dialog about potential transactions as opposed to evidence that there are more transactions.

  • There is some, though, some that even were announced this past week, excluding our own, including the conversion of a hotel here in Chicago to a Hyatt.

  • And so through an acquisition, that is.

  • And that we have also seen a little bit of M&A activity in the first quarter, or over the first quarter.

  • But I wouldn't say that there's a fundamental shift at this point, in terms of actual transaction volume increasing.

  • We'll see how this evolves over the course of the year, the debt markets are not backing up for sure, but neither are they really expanding significantly or at a fast pace.

  • We have seen some improvement in securing financing for some specific projects, but those projects have tended to be in great locations in key cities with great sponsorship.

  • And I think that the -- with those factors, financing seems to be more accessible now that it has been in the past.

  • But again, I don't consider that a sea shift.

  • So that's a quick perspective on what I see in the market at this point.

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • And we, in the last quarter closed some big financing.

  • And whether it was Times Square in New York, the construction loan took a long time to get it done.

  • But working with our partners and our banks we got that, and then one select project working -- that we partner with Noble.

  • So I think, to your point, Mark, I think, good sponsors, a good brand and then working with our partners I think is leading to some success.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • "Our niche competitor, Gaylord, is exploring alternative shareholder value.

  • Is it fair to characterize Hyatt's interest as low or none in perhaps some portion of that entity to enhance distribution?"?

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • Well, look, first, I don't think it's appropriate for me to comment on a specific competitor, but I do think it is an opportunity to just remind people and talk about what it is that we are focused only, and how we think about this.

  • We're always looking for what fits and what doesn't.

  • We have been focused on three particular areas in -- as a full service matter.

  • Full service hotel matter.

  • The first is expansion in key cities.

  • Really you can see the results of our focus on New York for example, through openings as well as additional pipeline hotels that are coming through.

  • Second, expansion of our resort presence.

  • Harmit just mentioned the financing that we secured for the JV in Wailea.

  • That's an example of our focus on expanding our reserve presence in key resort markets.

  • And third, has been and continues to be expansion of our group oriented hotels.

  • We have really dedicate a lot of focus and time and attention, to the Hyatt Regency New Orleans project.

  • We invested in preferred equity in that transaction, in order to create the capital base needed to finish the redevelopment of the hotel.

  • And it reopened last year, and is off to a great start.

  • So we are very encouraged by that.

  • Those remain the key areas, of course, and the select service area, we are very much focused on urban development, but also overall expansion.

  • So I would say that those remain the key areas of focus for us.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Okay, shifting gears.

  • "With 70% of the current management franchise pipeline located outside North America, where are the bulk of these properties located?

  • How will the management contracts generally be structured?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • So the bulk are located in India and China.

  • Over 50% of our total pipeline is in those two countries.

  • Or 70 of the international pipeline is located in those two countries.

  • The specifics on the contracts -- the contract structure really varies by geography and type of hotel.

  • But generally speaking, I would say it applies to the vast majority of our hotels in our pipeline in India and China.

  • They are transactions in which we are signing management agreements, long term management agreements, with a base and a incentive fee structure,without capitol being applied to it.

  • So that's overall profile is that for the China and India properties.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • "Can we get a update on the construction status of the Park Hyatt New York?

  • What does the timing look like for the project opening?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • Yes, Park Hyatt New York construction is going very well.

  • The overall project is a very tall building on 57th street, we are in the first 22 or 23 stories of the building.

  • And the progression -- the progress has been very, very good.

  • Remember that we have a fixed price contract, and we'll acquire a majority interest in the hotel upon its completion.

  • At this point, it looks like they are on track to complete late next year or early 2014, and we will establish an opening date a little later.

  • We have not established a specific opening date at this point.

  • Really it's -- we're very encouraged and very optimistic, because it's the new luxury hotel built in New York City in over a decade.

  • So we'll really excited to bringing the Park Hyatt brand to the market.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • "Can you give us a rundown on the state of union relations in the U.S.?

  • And do you foresee a scenario of increased union pressures strikes or wage pressures in 2012 through 2014?"

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • Well, excuse me, by way of reminder, the contracts in the -- that we have in some of the major cities, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Waikiki, for example, expired in 2009, late 2009 and in one case early '10.

  • We have been in negotiations and dialog with the local unions and the cities since then.

  • We have not been able to bring those negotiations to closure.

  • There was a recent round of negotiations in both New York and in Washington, and those have progressed relatively more quickly.

  • And those -- the terms of the arrangements there are being finalized at this point,so it's quite difficult to forecast this.

  • By way of reminder, we have about 25% or 30% of our work force in North America is unionized, so we remain highly focused on this.

  • We are applying ourselves very vigorously to try to bring closure to the contracts in the cities that I mentioned.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Okay, and the final question that we received by email, had to do with Europe.

  • "What percent of our customer base in Europe comes from non-Europeans?"

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • I'd say about 40%.

  • It varies by city.

  • In key cities like Paris and Zurich, it's a little bit higher.

  • But 40% is a good range.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • Now, operator, we would like to shift to the live Q&A, if you could give us the first question?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Your first question comes from the line of Carlo Santarelli representing Deutsche Bank.

  • Please proceed.

  • Mr.

  • Santarelli, your line is open.

  • Carlo Santarelli - Analyst

  • Yes, sorry about that.

  • All my questions have been answered, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Kevin Milota representing JPMorgan.

  • Please proceed.

  • Mr.

  • Kevin, your line is open.

  • Joe Greff - Analyst

  • Hi, this is Joe Greff for, I guess for Kevin.

  • Just with regard to your SG&A outlook, I joined the call plate, I know you mentioned the low double digit low teens, on a year-to-year basis, What is the base for last year that you're referring that to?

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • In terms of dollars, Joe, or in terms of percentage increase?

  • Joe Greff - Analyst

  • Well, give me both.

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • I think last year total SG&A was approximately $285 million.

  • As across the company.

  • And the double -- so let me try and help and explain the double digit versus teens a little better.

  • The double digit, if we exclude the one time cost, and the low mid-teen's would be if you include that, because we had some one time costs this year.

  • Joe Greff - Analyst

  • Got you.

  • And how does it -- the balance of the year spread fairly evenly to get to that low teens on a not adjusted basis?

  • Is.

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • What I mentioned, Joe, was that the first half of the year would run at a higher clip when you compare to last year..

  • Then the second half, largely because of two reasons.

  • One, was that we hired folks towards the second half of last year.

  • So there's an annualization impact, and the second is we had these onetimers that we just spoke about in the first quarter thank you.

  • Joe Greff - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Atish Shah - SVP, IR

  • We'll take the next question, please?

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from Joe graph representing JPMorgan.

  • Please proceed.

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • I think we just got Joe, actually.

  • We'll take the next one.

  • Harmit Singh - CFO

  • Joe's back up question.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Mark Hoplamazian - President, CEO

  • Okay, well, if there are no further questions, we want to thank you very much for your time.

  • We appreciate your interest in Hyatt, and we look forward to speaking with you soon, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you for your participation in today's conference, this concludes the presentation.

  • You may now disconnect and have a great day.