Frontline Plc (FRO) 2022 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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然後,文本繼續解釋了這種需求的原因,其中包括許多國家正在擺脫 COVID-19 大流行以及對俄羅斯實施制裁的事實。查看償債後的每股自由現金流和基於當前車隊和股價的自由現金流收益率,Frontline 的每股自由現金流為 2.34 美元,自由現金流收益率為 20%。然而,隨著假設租期當量 (TCE) 費率的提高以及在完全交付的基礎上,這種收益潛力會增加。

總體而言,第二季度對於油輪來說是一個關鍵點,因為 Frontline 的運營費用有所增加。然而,該公司仍處於良好的地位,自由現金流收益率為 20%。文中討論了油輪訂單的下降以及對能源物流鏈的潛在影響。作者指出,與船隊規模相比,下降尤其明顯,這可能導致油輪成為能源物流鏈的瓶頸。作者還指出,油輪運輸的需求是真實存在的,因為並非每個國家都能獲得石油資源。

然後文本繼續討論 Frontline 和 Euronav 合併的潛在結果。如果合併成功,Frontline 將獲得 Euronav 的控制權,兩家公司將合二為一。如果合併不成功,Frontline 仍將獲得 Euronav 的控制權,但兩家公司將作為獨立的實體運營。

大型石油運輸船期租市場正在蓬勃發展,簽訂的合同最長可達3年。這對 Frontline 來說是令人鼓舞的消息,因為這表明他們的分析與業內“大男孩”的分析一致。 Frontline 仍然專注於現貨市場,但認為通過長期租船合同獲得一些收入和利潤是有價值的。

全球原油出口一直在增長,但在產品方面卻落後。這主要是由美國 SPR 版本和美國生產引起的。根據 EIA 的數據,今年迄今為止,美國的產量增加了 140 萬桶。 VLCC 和蘇伊士型油輪的訂單繼續減少。為了對這張圖片做出重大改變,我們需要更多。文本描述了兩個人之間的對話。一個人詢問合併後幾個季度的專業費用和法律費用是否普遍較高,而另一個人則回答說這種情況經常發生。然後第一個人詢問是否有任何事情阻止該公司在 Euronav 獲得更多股份,第二個人解釋說,在不被視為關聯方的情況下,公司可以購買多少股份存在監管限制。

Lars Desmery 被問及最近超大型原油運輸船 (VLCC) 的飆升及其背後的可能原因。他首先解釋說,對俄羅斯的製裁改變了原油的流動,俄羅斯現在向亞洲和歐洲出售更多從其他來源進口的原油。這創造了一種低效的交易模式。他接著說,VLCC 飆升可能是由於美國生產和出口的增加。美國現在能夠向中國輸送原油,這在以前是不可能的。他將此歸因於美國原油價格變得更具競爭力的事實。

Frontline Ltd. 的首席執行官 Lars 被問及有關公司最近的股息公告和 Euronav 交易的兩個問題。第一個問題是關於派息率以及公司是否計劃在未來保持類似的派息水平。拉斯證實,該公司確實計劃在未來保持類似水平的派息。第二個問題是關於在 Euronav 交易完成之前公司可以採取的股息金額或其他公司行動的任何限制。 Lars 表示,在 Euronav 交易完成之前,公司可以採取的股息金額或其他公司行動沒有任何限制。 Frontline 的資產負債表依然強勁,現金和現金等價物為 4.98 億美元,總債務為 21 億美元。在第二季度末,該公司的淨債務與調整後 EBITDA 比率為 2.1 倍。

Frontline 在第二季度的強勁財務表現受到原油油輪運價上漲的推動。 VLCC 現貨市場價格從第一季度的每天 23,700 美元增加到第二季度的平均每天 41,700 美元。蘇伊士型油輪現貨市場價格從第一季度的每天 16,700 美元增加到第二季度的平均每天 32,700 美元。

VLCC(超大型原油運輸船)的訂單為 41 艘,蘇伊士型油輪的訂單為 16 艘。文中還提到,到訂單交付時,將有 20 輛 LR2(大型 2 型油輪)機齡超過 20 年。

文中討論了石油運輸可能存在的結構性瓶頸。值得注意的是,缺乏對新產能進行投資的動力,當需求增加時,這可能會導致問題。底部的圖表顯示,所有油輪的收益並未遵循典型的季節性模式。

未來幾年將交付的油輪數量很高,VLCC(超大型原油運輸船)訂單量為 41 艘,蘇伊士型油輪訂單量為 16 艘。然而,這些油輪中有很大一部分在交付時將超過 20 年,其中 20 艘 LR2(大型 2 型油輪)屬於此類。這可能會給石油運輸造成瓶頸,因為目前缺乏投資新產能的動力。如果需求增加,這可能會成為一個問題,因為文本底部的圖表顯示所有油輪的收益都沒有遵循典型的季節性模式。

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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to Q2 2022 Frontline Limited Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions)

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to the CEO, Lars Barstad. Please go ahead, sir.

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • Thank you very much. Good morning, and good afternoon to everyone. Welcome to Frontline's second quarter earnings call. As mentioned in our release, this is the quarter where the LR2s took center stage. The market tends to [get] that close to 1/3 of our vessel days come from this asset class. We started to see the displacement of Russian crude and products also affecting the Suezmaxes during the second quarter. And finally, the VLCC got a pulse as the second quarter came to an end.

  • Before we get to the Q2 financials and what lays ahead, let's have a look at the highlights on Slide 3 in the deck. So in the second quarter, Frontline achieved $16,400 per day on our VLCC (inaudible) per day on our Suezmax fleet and a very impressive $38,600 per day on our LR2/ Aframax fleet.

  • So far, in the first quarter of 2022, we have booked 73% of our VLCC days at $28,100 per day, 73% of our Suezmax days at a solid $45,000 per day and 62% of our LR2/Aframax days at even more impressive $46,200 per day. All numbers in this table are on a load-to-discharge basis and may be affected by the amount of ballast days we end up having at the end of Q3. This is more relevant to the VLCCs that normally tend to go on the longer voyages. It occasionally affects Suezmaxes and to a lesser degree, LR2s.

  • With that, I will now let Inger take you through the financial highlights.

  • Inger Marie Klemp - CFO of Frontline Management AS

  • Thanks, Lars, and good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Let's turn to Slide 5, and look at the income statement. This quarter, Frontline achieved total operating revenues of $159 million and adjusted EBITDA of $98 million. We reported net income of $47.1 million or $0.23 per share and adjusted net income of $42.5 million or $0.21 per share in this quarter.

  • On the right-hand side of the slide, we show the adjustments made this quarter, which consists of a $8.9 million gain on derivatives, a $6.1 million share of results of associated companies, $1.3 million amortization of acquired time charters, a $0.8 million gain on insurance claim, $12 million loss on marketable securities and $0.4 million loss on termination of leases.

  • The adjusted net income in the second quarter increased $44.1 million compared with the first quarter. And the increase in interested net income was driven by an increase in our time charter equivalent earnings due to the higher TCE rates in the quarter, but it was partly offset by an increase in ship operating expenses of $7.5 million, mainly as a result of higher drydocking costs and other movements in income and expenses.

  • Then let's take a look at the balance sheet on Slide 6. Total balance sheet numbers have increased with $304 million in the second quarter compared to the first quarter. The balance sheet movements in the quarter are primarily related to taking delivery of the 2 new buildings VLCCs, Front Alta and Front Tweed together with the acquisition of the Euronav shares in exchange for Frontline shares in addition to ordinary debt repayments and depreciation. As of June 30, Frontline had $351 million in cash and cash equivalents, including undrawn amount under our senior unsecured loan facility, marketable securities and minimum cash requirements.

  • Let's then take a closer look at Slide 7. Keeping costs down has always been in Frontline's DNA and core values of the Frontline platform is keeping it simple and focused and maintain lean and efficient management teams. This slide shows that Frontline (inaudible) on OpEx, G&A and interest expense. And this, together with outperformance of peers on revenues for at least 2 out of 3 segments this quarter explains the superior operational performance of Frontline in the second quarter of 2022.

  • Then I think we should look at Slide 8. That is the cash breakeven and cash generation potential. We estimate average cash cost breakeven rates for the remainder of 2022 of approximately $24,900 per day for the VLCCs, $20,000 per day for the Suezmax tankers and $17,200 per day for the LR2 tankers. This gives a fleet average estimate of about $20,700 per day.

  • The fleet average estimate includes drydock of 6 vessels in the remainder of 2022, with an impact of about $530 per day. The distribution of these 6 vessels is 2 VLCCs, 1 Suezmax tanker and 3 LR2 tankers. In the second quarter, we recorded OpEx expenses, including drydock of $8,100 per day for the VLCCs, $10,400 per day for the Suezmax tankers, and $8,400 per day for the LR2 tankers. And in the second quarter, we have drydocked 6 vessels, 4 Suezmax tankers and 2 LR2 tankers.

  • The graph on the right-hand side of this slide, this shows the free cash flow per share after debt service and free cash flow yield basis current fleet and share price, August 24 alternative TCE rates.

  • Based on historic Clarkson TCE rates for non-eco vessels in the period 2021, adjusted for premiums on scrubber and eco vessels, Frontline has a free cash flow per share of $2.34 and a free cash flow yield of 20%. Free cash flow yield potential increases with higher assumed TCE rates and on a fully delivered basis.

  • With this, I'll leave the word to Lars again.

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • Thank you, Inger. So let's move on and have a look at Slide 9 and recap the second quarter. I have basically made a title here called a "pivotal point for tankers." Q2 is normally a softish quarter also referred to as a shoulder quarter. But as we see on the graph at the bottom left, something happened as we went into Q2 this year.

  • So global oil demand came in 700,000 barrels per day lower in Q2 compared to Q1, averaging up 98.4 million barrels. Supply came in at 99.1 million barrels per day, up a modest 0.2 million barrels per day in the quarter. It's basically the volatility we've seen in the market in Q2 and the first and foremost, on the LR2s is a ton-mile story. And we're currently reaping the benefits of that story that started during the second quarter.

  • We're seeing highly inefficient trading patterns developing and this to the benefit of oil in transit and utilization, as you can see on the graph at the bottom right. Towards the end of the second quarter, we saw all Frontline asset classes, including the VLCC start to move up. Asian and in particular, Chinese demand was still subdued, but current level of activity paints an interesting picture for future starts to come.

  • Let's move then to Slide 10. So global exports, and what we're looking at here are 2 charts where basically it's the tracked output of oil and products, split from basically every producing country in the world and every producing or products producing region in the world.

  • We've seen a dramatic change in demand and trading patterns for refined products developing during Q2 this year. I think people tend to forget, and it's a bit overshadowed by the situation in Ukraine that most of the Western world has actually fully come out of the COVID-19 pandemic with the effects that have had on demand. And at the same time, refining capacity, particularly in Europe and to some extent, in U.S. was reduced quite dramatically during the pandemic, where these regions experienced horrific refining margins. And in addition to that, we've had the situation with sanctions on Russia, making Russian oil and products more difficult to move.

  • So basically, what we see is that global clean product exports are actually approaching the highest we've seen. And this takes us back to 2017. If you go further back, AIS tracking is not as efficient as it has been in this period. But we are reaching all-time high on clean products exports globally.

  • Global crude oil exports is improving. It's lagging though, on the product side. This is -- but kind of the appreciation in the global crude oil exports is primarily caused by U.S. SPR releases and U.S. production and their export capabilities are growing. U.S. production has increased by 1.4 million barrels year-to-date according to EIA. And as most of you would know, the U.S. are releasing what's equivalent to almost 1 million barrels per day of their SPR or from the SPR. In -- I would say, writing, but in speaking, we currently see very high demand for tonnage, both in the Middle East and in the U.S. Gulf, indicate that this positive development for freight looks to continue.

  • Let's move then to Slide 11. And the order book continues to dwindle in particular on the crude side. There has been no orders for VLCCs or Suezmaxes in the last 12 months. I have to correct myself there a little bit, because I saw reports this morning that there were VLCCs ordered or rumored to be ordered in Japan, but we'll get back to that. In order to get a significant change to this picture, we need far more.

  • On the VLCC side, we have seen 27 vessels delivered year-to-date, and there's still 21 to come. Some of those will obviously move into '23. But the total order book is at 41 vessels. We have a fleet of 861 vessels, of which 81 during this year will be over 20 years old. Once this order book is finished delivered, 114 VLCCs will be above 20 years old.

  • On the Suezmaxes, it's even more pronounced. We've seen 25 Suezmaxes delivered this year. There are 8 more to come, 6 next year and 2 in 2024. That's the 16 total in the order book, and we have 65 Suezmaxes that will pass this 20-year threshold this year. And looking at time the order book delivers, it's a total of 111 Suezmaxes that would effectively be disqualified from the commercial trading oil market.

  • On the LR2s, we have, in fact, seen some orders placed this year. The broker [of course] varies, but we've landed on identifying 13 orders placed. And -- but still, I would argue that, that's not an alarming development. There are 20 LR2s or at least vessels that are registered as LR2s that are going to be over 20 years this year. But if you kind of heightened the threshold a little bit and put it at 15 years, which for anyone that trades clean products, no is a more relevant yardstick. You have more than 70 LR2s built prior to 2008. So basically by this order book has -- when this order book has delivered, this will come to age. So we're not really that alarmed about the development on LR2s either.

  • I think if we look at the chart at the top left side here, and this has been become quite repetitive over the quarterly presentations that we have. And the blue line is the absolute weight size of the tanker order book, and the yellow one is as a percentage of the fleet. And as we can see in absolute deadweight, we're back to 2000-2001 period, and we all know that the oil market is much larger now than it was in 2000. In the percentage of the fleet, it's even more pronounced where we need to go back to 1996 and even before. I actually don't have history prior to 1996 on this. So it's difficult for me to gauge whether if we are early-90s, mid-90s or in the '80s. But this is an alarming development, I would say. And we're starting to see the early signs of that tankers could become a bottleneck in the energy logistical chain.

  • And I'd like to add, though, for those of you not that familiar with freight and tankers is that not every country in the world is blessed with oil. And there is also an asymmetrical relationship between population growth and oil resources. So this transportation need is actually real. So let's see how this develops.

  • Let's then move over to Slide 12. And I find this quite exciting. The time charter market has almost erupted over the last month. The time charter of the period market is an old school bellwether for large oil transporters expectations. These are, as we referred to as the big guys, the Shells, the Equinors, the BPs, the Chevrons, the big boys in the game that have equity crude have substantial transportation needs are in the market, all of them for up to 3 year commitments on time charters. And to them -- even for them, a 3-year commitment is significant. We have seen earlier kind of in the reporting season, even 5 year charters being concluded. And this is extremely interesting and extremely encouraging. This is obviously in line with the spot, but it's not that often that you -- after a relatively short period of firm spot markets, it is a kind of activity in the long-term time charter market. So this basically means that our analysis might be in line with some of these guys analysis.

  • Frontline will remain a spot focused owner with the objective to offer our investors stock-market returns. However, a certain degree of secured revenue and margin plays a part of our long-term vision. And as we have reported, we are actively looking at the time charter market for some of our asset classes.

  • So let's move over to Slide 13. We are -- although it's been fairly quiet from Frontline in this respect for the last couple of months or actually not months last month, I would say. Frontline and Euronav combination is on rails. We are moving forward, basically, the part of the process we are in now is led by legal and it's more a regulatory job towards the regulators, and we're working towards a Frontline relocation filing to -- for the relocation of -- from platform Bermuda to Cyprus. That will be followed by a tender offer. We expect that to happen in Q4 this year.

  • There is always also been discussions around the various outcomes of this tender offer. I've left the achieving less than 50% acceptance out of this. But obviously, if that should happen, we don't believe it will. We think this is an industrial solution the market wants, but I just left that out. If we get above 75% acceptance amongst the Euronav shareholders, we will go directly to a merger with Euronav. Should we, in the case end up between 50.1% and 75%, the outcome is more or less the same. Frontline gains control of Euronav and a combination of the 2 complementary platforms will be created. We'll perform basically as one company, although Euronav will be [vertically] a subsidiary of Frontline.

  • So let's -- with that move to Slide 14 and a summary. So Q2 '22 was a shoulder quarter in the terms of oil demand. And in fact, Q3 should have been the same. That's if you follow normal seasonal patterns. This is currently a turmoil story with sanctions on Russia being a catalyst, but we may face a structural catalyst when it comes to products. I mentioned earlier in the presentation the dislocation between refining capacity and demand. Global crude oil exports are approaching pre-COVID levels and oil in transit is already there.

  • Order books continue to dwindle, and there are currently no incentive present to invest in new capacity interest yet. Also, there is a question of when this capacity can be ready to the market should the ordering start now. The other question then is, are we starting to feel the structural bottlenecks of oil transportation that may come. Frontline has a modern, efficient spot exposed fleet, and the stars are looking to align, and I might add, winter is coming.

  • I'd like to draw your attention to the chart at the bottom, which is different from the last 3 quarters, and it's basically a seasonal chart of the average weighted earnings of all tankers. It's not Frontline tanks, it's all the tankers, basically all the tanker indices. And as you might notice, it's a very unseasonal pattern evolving.

  • And with that, I'll open up for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) The first question from Jonathan Chappell from Evercore ISI.

  • Jonathan B. Chappell - Senior MD

  • Lars, 2 quick questions on capital allocation. First of all, it's good to see the dividend renewed for the first time. If we do the math, it looks like maybe a 70% payout ratio has just been so long. Just want to get confirmation on a rough range? And then the second part to that question is, as we're going through the final steps of consummating the Euronav transaction, are there any restrictions on the amount of dividends or any other corporate actions you can take until that process?

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • First of all, Inger just handed me a note here. I believe it's up 79%...

  • Inger Marie Klemp - CFO of Frontline Management AS

  • Yes, because we need to calculate the dividend basis to 222.6 million shares (inaudible) outstanding at the end of the quarter -- second quarter, I mean. So then you will come to that is 79%.

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • Yes. And back to your other question. There is the combination agreement was made public in July and the exchange ratio is set, and it's within that exchange ratio that the dividend has been -- is being paid. But for future dividends, it needs to be basically adjusted either via the exchange ratio, which is very unlikely. And then via the amount of shareholders that Frontline will have post merger.

  • Jonathan B. Chappell - Senior MD

  • My second question for you Lars is, you mentioned in the presentation that you haven't really seen China come back to the market yet. It feels like Russia is still pretty reliant on -- I'm sorry, Europe is still pretty reliant on Russian crude and the sanctions clearly haven't gone into effect yet. Is it -- is there any way to quantify or even qualify what's driven this VLCC spike before you're really seeing the impact of these 2 potential big catalysts into the market?

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • Well, first, I'd like to say that the European and U.S. sanctions on Russian crude has not affected the Russian flows per se, but it's altered the trading pattern. So basically, what we see right now is that Russian crude oil and Russian products is sailing past Europe and to Asia. And at the same time, Europe has had to change their purchase patterns and are importing to a much larger degree, feedstock and products from Middle East, West Africa and the U.S. So -- and this is what created this highly inefficient trading pattern. So it has -- kind of the sanctions has stopped Russian crude to enter Europe just as far as we see it.

  • With regards to the VLCC, that's a very kind of recent development. And I think it's more related to the U.S. production and the U.S. SPR release and their export capacities. So -- and as you know, and as I described this before, on previous calls that the oil market is a bit like a toothpaste tube. If you press it, the toothpaste will pop out somewhere. And basically, U.S. crude oil has then priced itself to go far east, basically by the share price itself to go far east, basically by the share volume being offered. So that, I think, is a game changer here. I also think not to be too technical, the flat -- in a very, very steep backwardated market, it's quite expensive to hold large volumes of crude oil over a long voyage is basically unhedgeable. But obviously, with the flat structure in the crude oil market. It's easy to hedge your exposure over the 60 days you need in order to transport crude from say U.S. Gulf to China.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Chris Tsung from Webber Research.

  • Chris Tsung - Analyst

  • Just to follow up on that last question. So are you saying that you will continue to see VLCCs/Suezmaxes for the near term. Is that right?

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • So basically, what we're seeing is that at least VLCC -- when these large trade lanes open up as we've seen U.S. Gulf to Asia or to North Asia. You utilize the vessels for over a very, very long period of time. So it takes away capacity for a long time. So -- and we also see the activity continued. When we fix VLCCs now, we fix them for late September (inaudible). So basically, the oil will be lifted in September and delivered to China sometime in late October early November. And this, we see continue as October dates are already being addressed. This does, however, create a bit of a hole in the Suezmax program, because they're fixed closer to the loading dates. But at the same time, the Suezmax has a lot of support from the flow of crude from both Middle East, but primarily West Africa into Europe. So we basically see -- this seems to be maintaining or maybe even firming.

  • Chris Tsung - Analyst

  • Just on to your fleet mix, I know in the presentation, you guys are not looking at new capacity to ship, but with the (inaudible) these delivering into early next year and the potential merger with Euronav fleet, which is heavily be-weighted. I just wanted to understand, is there a desire to rebalance your fleet mix? Or how should we think about that?

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • You're absolutely correct. It is to rebalance our fleet mix. And historically, Frontline has been a predominantly VLCC company, secondary having Suezmaxes. And the LR2 additions to our fleet is actually kind of in the long term, fairly new. We do see them obviously as very efficient trading vehicles. And I think this quarter has a story of that. But no, it's a simple analysis, which we've repeated a few times, but I'm happy to repeat it again. If you look at the average cash breakeven Frontline has per vessel class, and you also then think of the economies of scale in oil transportation. You'll find that the lid on -- or the kind of where the VLCC peaks is so much higher than, for instance, for the VLCC and Suezmax or compared to an LR2. So it means that you get to put a bit [in variable] on the more bang for the buck owning VLCC in a good market.

  • And this has basically been from clients philosophy all along. We're also quite good at running VLCCs, have a good client base in that segment. And so, this has basically been kind of where the bread and butter over the years has been gained from Frontline. So the Euronav transaction is a part of that kind of continuing that story.

  • Chris Tsung - Analyst

  • And just if I can squeeze one last modeling question just noticing your admin costs have inched up a bit this quarter. Is this a onetime thing associated with the time merger with Euronav versus something else?

  • Inger Marie Klemp - CFO of Frontline Management AS

  • Yes. And you're right. We do have some more professional fee of -- expenses related to professional fees and legal costs in this quarter than we usually have related to this merger.

  • Chris Tsung - Analyst

  • Okay. So it wouldn't be like the run rate going forward is just slightly elevated this quarter and maybe into next?

  • Inger Marie Klemp - CFO of Frontline Management AS

  • Sorry, I didn't catch your question.

  • Chris Tsung - Analyst

  • I was just saying that this shouldn't be looked as a new run rate for admin expenses, and it's just this quarter and next, is it just going to be slightly elevated?

  • Inger Marie Klemp - CFO of Frontline Management AS

  • Well, I mean, as long as, we are in the process of, let's say, combining the companies, I guess you would could assume that we will also have higher professional fees and legal expenses in the next quarters to come.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Omar Nokta from Jefferies.

  • Omar Mostafa Nokta - Equity Analyst

  • I have a couple of questions for you just on the Euronav transaction. Obviously, in the second quarter, you did a few share deals that took your stake up to around 20% in Euronav. Is there anything that prohibits you from doing more, assuming the opportunity exists to take your position higher ahead of the tender offer?

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • It is, in fact -- and this needs to kind of transactions, you can call them, were bilateral, and they were kind of driven by incoming to put it that way. There is a regulatory kind of mechanism called the creeping tender offer. If you continue to do this, at least the U.S. legislators will kind of arrest you not like physically, but you will -- they don't deem it the correct way of going about this. So that's why we kind of stopped there. Also, there are limitations to -- when you become a related party and so forth. That's not necessarily a big issue for us as we are very much related through the combination agreement already. But there is no kind of big incentive for us to continue that path or it is in a part continue those -- or to do more of those transactions.

  • Omar Mostafa Nokta - Equity Analyst

  • And I guess this is maybe sensitive, I understand if you're not able to respond, but are you having any discussions with the Euronav shareholder that has been vocal in his opposition to the deal, maybe reaching an amicable solution? Or does it just simply come down to how the tender offer comes about later in the year?

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • In the end it comes down to how the tender offer -- what happens when we count the shares at the end of the tender offer.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) There are no further questions at the moment, I will hand back the conference for closing remarks.

  • Lars H. Barstad - CEO of Frontline Management AS

  • Okay. Thank you very much for calling in. Again, these are exciting times. We're quite excited both by the market developments and our ambitions with regards to the combination of Euronav. So with that, I thank you and have a good day.

  • Operator

  • This concludes the conference for today. Thank you for today. Thank you for attending.