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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, and welcome to the Flextronics International first quarter fiscal year 2010 earnings conference call.

  • Today's call is being recorded and all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

  • After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session.

  • At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Mr.

  • Warren Ligan, Flextronics' Senior Vice President and Investor Relations and Treasury.

  • Sir, you may begin.

  • Warren Ligan - SVP, Treasury & IR

  • Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone.

  • Welcome to Flextronics' conference call today to discuss the results of our fiscal 2010 first quarter ended July 3rd, 2009.

  • On the call today is our Chief Executive Officer, Mike McNamara, and our Chief Financial Officer, Paul Read.

  • The presentation that corresponds to our comments today is posted on the investor section of our website under calls and presentations.

  • We will refer to each slide number so you can click to the appropriate slide.

  • On the call today, Paul will review our financial results, Mike will then comment on our quarterly performance, business highlights and outlook, key opportunities and guidance for the second quarter ending October 2nd, 2009.

  • After Mike's presentation, we will take your questions.

  • Please turn to slide two.

  • This presentation contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of US Securities laws, including statements related to the revenue and earnings guidance, our expectations about future operating margins, the expected charges and savings associated with our restructuring activities, and our expectations regarding end market demand for our products and our business in the current economic environment.

  • These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated by these statements.

  • Based on our current expectations and we assume no obligation to update them.

  • Information about these risks is noted in the earnings press release on slide 16 of this presentation, and in the risk factors and MD&A section of our latest annual report filed with the SEC as well as in our other SEC filings.

  • Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements.

  • Throughout this conference call, we will reference both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures.

  • Please refer to the schedules to the earnings press release on slide six of the presentation and the GAAP versus non-GAAP reconciliation in the investor section of our website which contain the reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP results.

  • Now I'll turn the call over to Paul.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • Thanks, Warren and good afternoon, everyone.

  • Please turn to slide three in the presentation.

  • We're very pleased with our first quarter performance with both revenue and EPS coming in the higher end of our guidance range.

  • Our first quarter revenue amounted to $5.8 billion, an increase of $200 million or 4% sequentially.

  • Adjusted earnings per diluted share was $0.08, which represented an increase of 167% sequentially from $0.03 in our March quarter.

  • Adjusted operating profit of $90 million increased 78% sequentially, and our adjusted operating margin expanded 70 basis points sequentially to 1.6%.

  • These improvements, while partly aided by the leverage created by the increased revenues, were driven primarily by the realization of cost savings from our announced restructuring activities and other focused actions to reduce discretionary spending.

  • Interest and other expenses declined sequentially by approximately $18 million to $29 million.

  • Primarily driven by reduced interest expense, resulting from further reductions in our borrowing levels coupled with improved foreign exchange results.

  • The tax benefit for the first quarter amounted to $1.8 million, which positively impacted our adjusted net income.

  • This result was better than our forecasted effective rate range as a result of achieving favorable settlements in various tax jurisdictions.

  • Finally, our adjusted net income for the first quarter was $63 million increasing sequentially by 191% from $22 million in our fourth quarter.

  • Please turn to slide four.

  • This slide displays each market segment's quarterly revenue and percent of trended revenue for the past five quarters.

  • Revenue from the infrastructure segment was $1.9 billion, which comprised 32% of total revenue.

  • On a sequential basis, our infrastructure business remained flat and showed signs of stabilization.

  • We continued to be confident in our broad offering and our ability to maintain and grow market share in this segment.

  • Revenue from the computing segment was $1.1 billion, which comprised 19% of total June quarterly revenue.

  • On a sequential basis, we saw expansion of 11% which is reflective of the initial ramping of several of our previously announced notebook wins.

  • Revenue from the mobile segment was $1.2 billion, which comprised 21% of total revenue.

  • On a sequential basis, we grew revenue 7% as we continue our portfolio transition with expansion of business with several new customers, most notably, RiM, which has secured a position as one of our top 10 customers.

  • Revenue from our consumer digital segment was $646 million, which comprised 11% of total revenue and increased 16% sequentially driven by successful expansion into new markets.

  • Finally, our industrial medical automotive and other category comprised 17% of our first quarter revenue and decreased 7% sequentially.

  • We have broadened the available market by expanding the product categories in this segment and we should see modest growth going forward.

  • As we discussed last quarter, we have been encouraged by signs of stabilization in some geographic regions and markets we serve.

  • This was further evidenced by.

  • While we anticipate challenging industry conditions to continue through fiscal year 2010, we remain optimistic about our ability to capture market growth opportunities.

  • As we believe the Company's cost structure and extensive diversification of service offerings are well aligned with customer requirements.

  • Please turn to slide five.

  • With revenue showing signs of stabilization and our restructuring activities in full gear, we are now starting to realize the resulting margin improvements.

  • Sequential adjusted gross margin adjusted operating margin expanded by 30 basis points and 70 basis points respectively in the June quarter.

  • As discussed last quarter, we have quickly executed on our restructuring plans to resize our business and are seeing the benefits in sequential margin expansion.

  • As we continue to execute on our restructuring plans, we are confident that our activities will achieve their intended cost savings and contribute to further margin expansion in the coming quarters.

  • Adjusted selling, general and administration expenses, which includes research and development costs, totaled $170 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2010.

  • Compared to $185 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2009.

  • Representing an 8% decrease sequentially.

  • On a year-over-year basis, we have reduced our quarterly adjusted SG&A spend by 25% or $57 million.

  • We are now operating at a level that was last seen in the September quarter of calendar 2007 which was prior to the Selectronic acquisition.

  • As a percentage of revenue, adjusted SG&A was 2.9% in the June quarter and is approaching our targeted level.

  • We are very pleased with our management of operating expenses and our continued focus on driving down discretionary spending while improving our capabilities and market competitiveness.

  • Please turn to slide six.

  • During the June quarter the Company recognized after tax restructuring charges of $64 million, and $107 million in payments charged related to the reduction in the estimated recoverability of a certain non-core investment and note receivable.

  • As we have mentioned on previous calls we intend to monetize non-core assets and benefit from the cash generated from these dispositions.

  • Also during the quarter, the Company recognized after tax intangible amortization and stock-based compensation of approximately $21 million, and $16 million respectively.

  • Compared to $25 million and $9 million respectively in the prior quarter.

  • After reflecting these items the GAAP net loss was $154 million, compared to the GAAP net loss of $249 million in the prior quarter.

  • GAAP loss per share for the June quarter was $0.19.

  • Effective for the June quarter, the Company was required to adopt a new accounting treatment for our convertible debt, FSB APB 14-1.

  • This new standard essentially requires a bifurcation of convertible debt between its liability and equity components.

  • The impact of this adoption as of the June quarter end was a $19 million decrease in the carrying value of our convertible debt, a $233 million decrease to retained earnings and $252 million increase to additional paid in capital.

  • Historical financial results in this presentation have been restated to show retrospective application.

  • As a result of this new standard, we recorded $8 million of non-cash interest expense related to the amortization of the deferred interest, which we exclude in our non-GAAP results.

  • There will be approximately $19 million of additional non-cash interest expense recorded as a result of this adoption, of which $13 million will be recorded in the current fiscal year.

  • Please turn to slide seven.

  • On March 10th, 2009, we announced the restructuring plan intended to resize our business in order to return to more normalized operating margins as quickly as possible and align with customer requirements.

  • During the June quarter, we recognized $65 million of restructuring charges comprised of $33 million of cash charges which are primarily employee severance related costs and $32 million of non-cash charges, primarily associated disposal of non-essential facilities and equipment related to various exit activities.

  • We are extremely pleased with how quickly and efficiently our organization has implemented and executed our restructuring plan.

  • To date we have recognized $215 million of restructuring charges.

  • We do not see any significant changes to our original plans and expect to recognize the remaining approximately $35 million of charges over the course of the fiscal year 2010.

  • We remain confident that upon completion of these restructuring activities, our potential savings will yield annualized savings between $230 million to $260 million.

  • We expect to achieve savings from cost of sales through lower depreciation, reduced employee expenses, reduced operating costs and improved operational efficiencies as well as reduced SG&A operating expenses.

  • We believe our operating results this past quarter show that we are progressing as planned to meet these savings expectations.

  • Please turn to slide eight.

  • Return on investment capital improved to 14.2%, up 450 basis points sequentially.

  • The Company Asset Management continues to be strong and coupled with the expanding margins has resulted in improving return on investment capital.

  • Our top priorities center on improving operating efficiencies, controlling costs and managing our working capital.

  • Thus we expect to derive continued improvements in this important metric.

  • Please turn to slide nine.

  • We're extremely pleased with our working capital management.

  • Our cash conversion cycle improved to 19 days in the June 2009 quarter.

  • Our results were driven by further improvements in inventory and receivables offset by reduction in accounts payable.

  • Inventory decreased this quarter, declining sequentially by $326 million, and inventory days decreased by eight days to 47 days.

  • Our inventory management has been exceptional as we have aggressively reduced our inventory levels by approximately $1.8 billion or 40% in the past year.

  • Our inventory turns are at 7.8 times, which is the highest level since December 2007.

  • Receivables declined by $250 million, net of a $69 million reduction in AR sales, resulted in improvement of eight days to days sales outstanding of 35 days.

  • During the quarter, our accounts payables declined sequentially by $418 million as days accounts payable decreased by 13 days sequentially to 63 days as we made further investments in our supply base.

  • Please turn to slide ten.

  • Our cash flow from operating activities generated $107 million in the quarter and it was the fourth consecutive quarter that we generated positive operating cash flows.

  • Cash flow from operations reflected the absorption of approximately $90 million of restructuring related payments during the quarter as well as the reduction in the benefit from receivables sales amounted to $69 million.

  • Our working capital management continues to be industry leading.

  • Our cash flow from operations for the last 12 months generated more than $1.4 billion in cash.

  • Net capital expenditures were $39 million and total depreciation and amortization were $118 million in the June quarter.

  • Our modest capital spending during the quarter combined with strong cash generation resulted in approximately $68 million of free cash flow.

  • We are pleased with our ability to reduce working capital, capital expenditures, and other discretionary spend, which has resulted in a generation of almost $1.1 billion in free cash flow for the last 12 months.

  • Please turn to slide 11.

  • Since June 2008, we have reduced the consolidated debt level of the Company from $3.7 billion to projected $2.6 billion, which includes the repayment of $195 million of the 0% converts at their maturity which is the end of this week.

  • Since last fiscal year, we have made deleveraging a priority of our capital structure, opportunistically using excess cash to strengthen our balance sheet and reduce the interest burden on our P&L.

  • We believe our capital structure and liquidity is a competitive advantage that provides our existing and new customers financial security when making outsource partner decisions.

  • During the quarter, we successfully tendered for the repurchase of $100 million of both our 6.25% and 6.5% senior notes.

  • In addition, we secured the consent to modification of the associated indentures for both notes.

  • These modifications include resetting the restricted payment basket to zero as of the beginning of the fiscal year, and immediate basket of $250 million to purchase junior securities or other restricted payments, elimination of certain non-cash charges and the removal of our existing 1% convertible bonds from the restricted payment basket.

  • We are very pleased with the results and execution of this capital market transaction.

  • It affords us the flexibility to better utilize our excess cash in future transactions.

  • Please turn to slide 12.

  • At the end of the June quarter, we had approximately $1.7 billion in cash which was lower by $145 million compared to the end of March quarter.

  • As a result of the aggregate $200 million paydown of our senior notes, total debt $2.75 billion at quarter-end, Compared to $2.94 billion at the end of March.

  • Over the past year we have reduced our debt by almost $1 billion.

  • Net debt, which is total debt less total cash, was further reduced this quarter by $50 million, and was $1.07 billion.

  • Our net debt has decreased more than $800 million from one year ago.

  • We closed the period with no borrowings outstanding under our $2 billion revolving credit facility.

  • The graph at the bottom of the slide shows our significant debt maturities by calendar year.

  • Our $195 million privately placed 0% convertible junior subordinated notes are due to be paid at the end of this month.

  • The $240 million of 1% convertible notes will mature in August 2010.

  • No additional significant balances of debt are due until calendar 2012.

  • Based on our existing cash balances along with our anticipated cash flow from operations and the additional liquidity available under our revolving credit facility, we remain very comfortable that we have sufficient liquidity to meet our projected needs.

  • Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

  • As you turn to slide 13, I will now turn the call over to our CEO, Mike McNamara.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Thanks, Paul.

  • My comments today will focus on our quarterly performance, what we're seeing with demand, and where our priorities lie going forward.

  • We are pleased with our performance in the first quarter ended July 3rd, 2009.

  • Our strong execution of the controllable aspects of our business achieved our planned objectives.

  • The overall demand climate has remained subdued, but we have made measurable strides to a just to the current market position and position ourselves for improving profitability.

  • Our June quarter revenue was $5.8 billion, which was at the higher end of our guidance range, and our adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.08, also at the top of our guidance range.

  • This solid performance was primarily the result of our ability to respond quickly to changes in the end market demand.

  • Bright spots in the quarter also included the successful ramping of our notebook production for HP and smart phone production for a major smart phone manufacturer.

  • Challenges remain however as one of our large cell phone customers continue to face deteriorating demand, and another large customers works through their bankruptcy period.

  • We have balanced these challenges with new business wins and exceptional execution.

  • While we have seen positive results from our actions to control our operating expenses and improve our operational efficiencies, we are by no means letting up on these efforts.

  • We will continue to act with speed and agility to adjust our operations, keep disciplined cost controls in place and optimally position Flextronics in the market.

  • Our top priorities remain to control these costs, improve internal efficiencies, aggressively manage our working capital, generate strong cash flow, and improve our capital structure.

  • Our continued success in these areas include the following results this quarter.

  • Adjusted SG&A was driven lower by disciplined cuts in discretionary spending, and headcount reductions as a result of our restructuring efforts.

  • At $170 million for the quarter, SG&A costs were down $15 million sequentially, and were at the lowest level in almost two years.

  • Inventory was further reduced by $326 million sequentially.

  • In total, over the past nine months, we have reduced inventory by nearly $1.9 billion which is an exceptional achievement.

  • At 14.2%, our ROIC is clearly moving in the right direction.

  • We remain intensely focused and determined on improving this metric and increasing shareholder value.

  • Our capital structure was further strengthened due to the success of our partial tender and consent solicitation for a senior subordinated notes.

  • In regard to these bonds, we reduced debt by approximately $200 million annual interest expense by greater than $10 million.

  • In addition, we reset the restricted payment provisions within those bonds to provide more flexibility on deployment of future excess cash.

  • In the first quarter, and for the third quarter in a row, our net capital spending was below current depreciation levels, with Q1 capital spending coming in at $39 million.

  • Our previously announced restructuring plan is on target, with $215 million of the announced $250 million plan expensed over the last two quarters.

  • The quarterly improvement in gross margins and operating margins are directly attributable to those efforts.

  • We expect the approximately $260 million annual run rate of savings to be met later this year.

  • Moving on to end markets, I will provide highlights for each marketing segment and our thoughts on where we see each category progressing in the current environment.

  • Our infrastructure segment is well positioned competitively, and we remain focused on improving ROIC with our existing business and new opportunities.

  • A good portion of our total inventory decrease in the June quarter compared to the March quarter occurred in infrastructure and inventory in -- inventory turns in this segment improved significantly quarter-over-quarter.

  • Overall, demand for the segment was flat sequentially.

  • New business ramps for networking and optical products combined with the benefits of our diverse customer base helped, to offset weakness in our Nortel business.

  • We continue to partner with Nortel through the reorganization period, and we have received all payments from them under the bankruptcy agreement to date.

  • With regard to the potential sale of major portions of Nortel's business, we believe we are well positioned to deal with any of the potential successful bidders.

  • The work we do with Nortel tends to be more complex and sticky, so we believe any change will provide us the opportunity to retain this business.

  • Our computing business displayed healthy growth for the first quarter, primarily due to the continued ramp of our recent notebook production launches.

  • We recently announced the launch of our notebook R&D facility in Taiwan, which will provide dedicated design, R&D and supporting services for notebooks.

  • We are expanding our capacity to service this segment and anticipate growing our notebook engineering capacity to 1500 engineers over the next couple of years.

  • And we are increasing manufacturing capacity.

  • We are also focused on increasing and diversifying our customer base and product portfolio.

  • As we continue our entry into the notebook market, in the near term we will focus on the main stream high end gaming and thin and light notebooks with expansion into other models as we gain momentum.

  • As we indicated last quarter, we are anticipating a notebook revenue run rate of approximately 1.5 to $2 billion by the end of this fiscal year.

  • We also continue to ramp the latest generation Intel Nehalem server products and additional customers.

  • With regard to servers, Revenue was somewhat flat to down quarter-over-quarter, and is being driven by weaker end demand.

  • We have been pleased with the progress of our computing segment, but pressures in the business remain.

  • For example, average unit prices for notebooks continue to decline as end users shift to lower priced products, plus overall market weakness has resulted in fewer future designs that the OEMs plan to take to market in the near term.

  • Although significant economic concerns persist, our dialogue with our customers lead us to believe that there will be stronger second half due to seasonal growth.

  • Our medical segment has a robust pipeline, and we continue to win new business with our diverse platform of offerings, which has helped offset the year-over-year decline in our base business across most product categories.

  • Recent new wins include a manufacturing transfer award with a large medical products and services customer that will provide revenue this fiscal year and three new drug delivery design programs with three separate customers, which will lead to manufacturing over the next two to three years.

  • In addition, there is significant new product development activity in the diabetes market segment.

  • While we are pleased with these wins, competitive pricing pressure has become more intense in the segment.

  • Plus OEMs are taking more time to make decisions on new product development which has increased the sales cycle.

  • However, we are beginning to see medical OEMs evaluate outsourcing at a total system level more actively due to the cost pressures in medical equipment and disposables.

  • We have a very strong competitive position in these medical markets and we are very confident we will be able to take share over the long term.

  • Performance in our industrial business was down slightly quarter-over-quarter.

  • This diverse segment encompasses several subsegments, including capital equipment, meters and controls, test equipment, solar products, appliances, self service kiosk and other miscellaneous products.

  • While visibility remains low due to continuing uncertainty of future demand, we believe many of our industrial customers are beginning to explore more outsourcing options.

  • Customer interest in Flextronics and quote activity has increased recently, which is largely attributable to our financial stability and complete solution offering, which positions us as a reliable, less risky choice for new customers.

  • While new business volumes have been small to date, these new diverse customer wins are expected to better position us once the end markets strengthen further.

  • Our consumer segment experienced growth quarter-over-quarter.

  • Positives included the successful launch of LCD TV production for a large electronic customer in one of our Mexico facilities plus strong demand for gaming consoles for one of our large customers coupled with a slightly higher demand with inkjet printers.

  • Some pricing pressures remain across all product groups, due to the general overcapacity in the industry.

  • In the second quarter, we're experiencing normal demand increases due to back-to-school and holiday seasonality, but certainly not the same levels compared to previous years.

  • While seasonality is driving an increase in orders, it's not evident whether the increase is based on sales recovery or inventory build-up or whether it will be sustainable in the later part of the year.

  • The sequential increase in our mobile segment reflected the continuous progress on product ramps for our major smart phone manufacturer which was partially offset by continued reduced demand from one of our core mobile customers.

  • The global demand for mobile devices continues to be weak and faces difficult historical comparisons.

  • While the struggle for market share amongst OEMs remains fierce, we have adjusted to this lower demand level in boats our consumer and mobile segment by successfully rationalizing our business with aggressive inventory corrections over the past few quarters and consolidating our capacity.

  • Similar to our consumer segment, we are now starting to rebuild capacity in our mobile segment for the seasonal sales volume.

  • Our relationship with a major smart phone manufacturer continues to thrive.

  • As this customer's grown into consumer smart phone sectors, it has expanded its market reach and we are continuing to benefit from that expansion.

  • We are encouraged by the opportunities that continue to emerge in this space.

  • With regard to our automotive business, the industry is clearly continuing to struggle.

  • Our focus on this segment is primarily electronic content for European customers our results have been impacted by lower overall industry demand.

  • The business represents about 2% of revenue and we will continue to focus on ODM products within this space.

  • Turning to our component business, our printed circuit board business offering remains challenged as we continue to struggle with underabsorption issues.

  • While new product introductions have slowed, our ramp on new programs has been strong and we have successfully diversified customer base and market segmentation to gain momentum for growth.

  • We continue to identify new opportunities for Multek.

  • For example, we recently announced a partnership with Sensitive Objects to significantly enhance Multek's touch panel solution for its partners and OEM customers.

  • Sensitive Object will provide engineering and customized services to Multek, along with production and development support for OEM customers in mobile, computer, computing, industrial and consumer segment.

  • We still anticipate that several more quarters of recovery will be necessary in Multek, but we are encouraged by our competitive position in the market and the new customer activities.

  • Our Flex power business unit continues to successfully gain traction in the market.

  • We have captured major share with major OEMs for adapters and chargers for phones, smart phones, digital cameras.

  • We have further penetrated the desktop and service space with multiple design wins, adding to our growing portfolio of high efficiency products.

  • The competitive landscape for power's intense as customers constantly push for lower cost solutions and pricing demands are aggressive.

  • Our efficient operations, streamlined procurement and most importantly our innovative designs are key strengths in our ability to succeed in this marketplace.

  • Our global services business, which focuses on logistics and repair services, we have had solid quote activity across all regions as customers seek to reduce costs by outsourcing their aftermarket logistics services.

  • We continue to quote customer opportunities especially in our services and service parts logistics businesses.

  • This business has been very stable in both revenue and profitable throughout the entire economic downturn.

  • Our retail technical service businesses provides competitive and flexible field services for customer operations.

  • In the first quarter, we expanded our business, become the sole source supplier of retail support services for a major wireless provider as the customer transitioned to a one supplier model.

  • While the retail environment continues to be challenged, we are focused on rolling out Flextronics capabilities in a variety of end market service solutions.

  • While there have been uneven performance amongst our segments in the first quarter, we are encouraged that most of the turbulence of the past two quarters is behind us.

  • We have observed signs of stabilization in most end markets during the last three months.

  • The timing and strength of a market recovery for Flextronics will depend a great deal on mix but we believe that during the past two quarters we have developed a more optimal customer base and product portfolio.

  • Our caution about the market has been appropriate as the global economy's recovery remains uncertain.

  • We will continue to operate our business, assuming a very metered recovery in the future.

  • Slide 14, turning to guidance.

  • We expect our September quarter revenue to be between $5.2 billion and $6 billion which is sequentially flat -- which is essentially flat and adjusted EPS to be in the range of $0.07 to $0.11 per share.

  • While stabilization of demand has improved it's still too early to forecast demand recovery and related financial impacts across the markets we serve with any high degree of certainty.

  • Our guidance reflects operational efficiencies and benefits of our recent restructuring actions, cost control efforts.

  • Quarterly GAAP earnings per diluted share are expected to be lower than the guidance provided herein, by approximately $0.07 for intangible amortization expense, stock-based compensation expense, non-cash interest expense and estimated restructuring charge.

  • Please turn to slide 15.

  • Over the last few quarters we have been demonstrating the skills of speed and agility that our management team has honed during the past downturns.

  • This agility will remain important to our success as we continue to strategically position the Company for improved profitability.

  • We believe that over the long term, momentum will be created by the successful implementation of our product geographic and vertical diversification strategy, enhanced by market focused expertise and capabilities.

  • The key competitive strengths that differentiate Flextronics include our low cost industrial parks, vertically integrated end-to-end solutions, significant scale, customer and end market diversification and long standing customer relationships.

  • We will continue to focus on what we can control and influence and believe our vision, strategy and execution are producing results.

  • In addition we remain focused on optimizing our balance sheet and capital structure while generating solid cash flows.

  • We continue to believe that our current cash balances, together with anticipated cash flows from operations, and availability under our revolving credit facility are more than sufficient to fund our operations and support our business opportunities.

  • With regard to uses of cash, we maintain our philosophy of prudently deploying cash in the most strategic manner possible to enhance shareholder value.

  • We would like to thank our employees for their outstanding, execution and attention to detail in a very difficult economic environment.

  • They have repeatedly been asked to do more with less and we appreciate their commitment to the Company's objectives.

  • Given our employees' continued dedication, we were pleased that our proposed option exchange program was recently approved by shareholders.

  • We believe the value-neutral option exchange program will provide additional motivation and retention benefits for our employees while reducing stock overhang and stock option expense for shareholders.

  • I will now turn this conference call over to the operator for questions.

  • We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up.

  • Go ahead, operator.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • One moment, please, for our first question.

  • Our first question comes from Mr.

  • Matt Sheerin, Thomas Weisel Partners.

  • Matt Sheerin - Analyst

  • Yes, thanks and good afternoon.

  • Just a question on the gross margin and operating margin targets that you talked about.

  • I know that you've talked about a 3% target in the foreseeable future.

  • Could you update us, on given that the -- looks like the revenue ramp is stalled and less than seasonal, but on the other hand, you've got continued aggressive cost cutting.

  • At what revenue level would we expect to see that 3%?

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • This is Paul.

  • So we would need some modest seasonal increases in revenue to see that for sure, but it's also determined on the mix, the profile and our continued delivery of the restructuring activities and the benefits associated with that.

  • We're driving improvements in the verticals that we have and the discretionary spend, et cetera.

  • So there's multiple elements to it that we're driving.

  • Matt Sheerin - Analyst

  • Would that, though, be over $6 billion?

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • It depends on the mix.

  • And it's certainly our target to get back to normalized margins by the end of the year but it's more mix dependent but it certainly would need revenue levels higher than they are today.

  • Matt Sheerin - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And my follow-up, could you let us know what the utilization rate, the capacity utilization rate is right now and we've seen at least one of your competitors decide that the utilization is too low and got another round of cost cutting.

  • It looks like you're keeping to your schedule and not increasing that cost restructuring but could you tell us what it is and are you comfortable with that and growing into that number?

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Matt, the activities that we've taken to date and kind of the expected seasonal upside that we would anticipate even in a muted economic environment get us close to our target, near term target levels.

  • As far as taking any more actions, we don't think we need to do that.

  • So when it comes to utilization levels, it's just a complicated -- I think I saw the other competitor, in terms of what they say.

  • Perhaps we look at utilization a little bit differently and maybe I'll go through it.

  • I've done it in the past.

  • But we just look at it three different ways.

  • There's people which is the highest cost.

  • And we believe that's rationalized exactly to what we need today.

  • There's equipment, which we have excess to.

  • We probably have about 25% too much which is the second largest element and then the third largest element is facilities themselves which is almost noise level, to be honest with you.

  • So we just look at capacity along each of those three different dimensions and we've taken the activity that we need to from the people standpoint.

  • We've taken the -- we've rationalized as much of the useless equipment as we can but we're not going to write off perfectly good equipment that has the ability to generate revenue in the future.

  • We would rather book some more business and take more market share.

  • So we just don't look at utilization quite the same way and don't have the same benchmark I think for you.

  • It's just a little bit different how we do it.

  • Matt Sheerin - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Okay.

  • Thanks.

  • That's helpful.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Mr.

  • William Stein from Credit Suisse.

  • William Stein - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • First, just like you to walk us through on the cost restructuring, on the -- pardon me, on the restructuring plan a little bit and the benefit of that.

  • I think you said the cost will flow through for the next couple quarters or maybe the rest of the year.

  • If you could be specific on when we think we're going to see the cost savings come in and how it will progress over the next few quarters?

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • Yes, sure.

  • We, as you said, we have roughly $35 million of restructuring charges yet to take.

  • 85% of it is booked.

  • The $35 million will be taken over the rest of the fiscal year.

  • In terms of the savings, we're making great progress.

  • We told you that in Q4 we had already netted savings of approximately $15 million.

  • In Q1, our June quarter year, that's gone up to approximately $30 million.

  • And then for the rest of the year, we would expect to net a total of $200 million for the year.

  • So it accretes up every quarter getting to a full run rate in about the December quarter.

  • William Stein - Analyst

  • The full run rate will be $200 million per year.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • The full run rate being the 230 to 250 number that we quoted, so the run rate of that, which is roughly $50 million, $60 million per quarter.

  • William Stein - Analyst

  • Then just on the end markets, kind of a combined question.

  • First, last quarter, when I look at the presentation, it looks like you recategorized some of last quarter's numbers, in particular between mobile and infrastructure.

  • Do I have that right?

  • And can you comment on that?

  • And also with notebooks, you're reiterating the $1.5 billion to $2 billion goal by the end of the year.

  • How far are we along that way now?

  • How much do we think is incremental from what we finished in this quarter to the end of the year for notebooks.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • On your first point, I don't believe we made any move from mobile.

  • The move that we made was very minor move but it was from consumer to industrial.

  • Roughly 1.5 to 2% and we restated the history in that graph to reflect that.

  • We took a look at some of the products we were building which we were previously recorded in consumer and we moved them to industrial because they were more industrial related products.

  • It was roughly 1.5% move from consumer to industrial and it's reflected in the historicals as well.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • On notebooks, one thing I want to say is on the notebooks, we think we have the orders in hand to hit those target levels, those target revenue levels of 1.5 to $2 billion.

  • How close are we?

  • We're in the process of ramping.

  • I don't know exactly the numbers but certainly relative to the June quarter, the volume will be triple what June quarter was as we go into the December quarter.

  • So it's in a very steady state kind of ramp.

  • We do have a couple of additional ramps that start hitting in September which kind of kick it a little bit, but I think you could probably safely assume we're one-third our way towards the levels that we're talking about that we're hoping to hit in the December quarter.

  • William Stein - Analyst

  • The run rate should be around $500 million per year right now or in the June quarter?

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Yes, if you use that as a good benchmark.

  • It's going to be at 1.5, say, to 2, that means we're running around $500 million run rate today.

  • That's correct.

  • William Stein - Analyst

  • Thank you very much.

  • Thanks .

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Mr.

  • Jim Suva, sir, you line is open.

  • Jim Suva - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thanks very much.

  • Mike and Paul, you both kind of talked a little bit about stability in demand and nobody really is expecting I think a V shaped recovery and you seem quite upbeat and talk about your ability to react and get a lot of new wins.

  • But when we compare your September outlook and also fold in some smart phone business as well as notebook business, it appears that you're guiding sequentially off a low time right now in the recession that we're dealing with right now, really the lowest sequential quarter-over-quarter increase, the lowest in like 16 years.

  • And when you consider that compared to the rest of the industry, where Celestica, Benchmark and some of the other companies have given guidance and recent results, it's hard not to say that you're gaining share -- it's hard not to say that you're losing share.

  • Maybe could you address the thing of really what's problematic.

  • I think everybody knows Motorola and Sony-Ericsson for Q2 had challenges, but going forward it seems like that Flextronics is really struggling with bringing something to the topline sales.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Yes, I think there's no doubt we're continuing to have downward pressure on some of our businesses that you just mentioned.

  • We're certainly having some downward pressure on some of the Nortel business.

  • We're having downward pressure on some of the Sony-Ericsson business continuing on into September, and those being the biggest, kind of the biggest pieces.

  • So when we go flat, we actually have to overcome some continuing deterioration in those accounts.

  • And those being -- they were top three accounts, they were both top three accounts as of just two quarters ago so it's -- I would still call it to be somewhat of a significant erosion.

  • That's really offsetting any new business that we're getting in.

  • And I wouldn't call it really significant new business.

  • I would call it more -- we're seeing a lot of opportunities.

  • We're participating in them.

  • It's not a robust market where we're seeing all this new stuff coming in.

  • We're booking some nice pieces but it's difficult in this economic environment to offset some of the down sides.

  • And I think the other thing to think about is June quarter came in a little better than we anticipated.

  • We were anticipating more around a 5.5 number and end up coming in around 5.8.

  • We got some strong uptick in the June quarter which we didn't anticipate we kind of pops that comparison a little bit higher.

  • So maybe that will come in in the September quarter.

  • We don't know.

  • But we are still having erosion in those two big accounts and I can't emphasize enough that the pain of taking two of your top three customers and having a pretty significant erosion.

  • Jim Suva - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • That's fair.

  • And then maybe a as a follow-up and switching gears to your notebook side.

  • Seems like a lot of growth there is in the netbook side.

  • Do you have any wins there, or is that prove yourself first with the notebook before you go into netbooks.

  • For the September quarter, the PC industry for notebooks typically has been up about 14% quarter-over-quarter.

  • Are you seeing that type of growth in your notebook segment for the September quarter and what about netbooks?

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Well, let me take your second question first on the September quarter and the notebooks.

  • I don't think we have a diversified and enough product wins to be representative of the industry.

  • So I think our notebook wins are going to -- our success in notebook is going to rely on the number of products we book and the individual success in the marketplace.

  • So for us in December, as I mentioned a moment ago, when Bill was talking about it, is we'll be up 3X.

  • So it won't be seasonal upside and so I don't think we're representative today of what that industry's going to do, but we're going to have some pops because we've got a number of wins coming in in the September time frame.

  • So on netbooks, we are not participating in netbooks today.

  • We have a few designs that we're working on to begin the process.

  • But we specifically stayed away from this product category.

  • We specifically tried to focus on those product categories we had more experience and we had a limited design team.

  • We've been adding to that design team and expanding it and over time it's highly likely that we'll end up with a very, very complete portfolio of high end gaming notebooks, all the way down to netbooks.

  • So I think that's likely but we are pacing ourselves and we're utilizing our design resources in an optimum way to kind of penetrate the marketplace that we think we have the most experience in, we have the most likely of booking business and we have limited design resources and as we expand those design resources we'll expand that product portfolio.

  • Jim Suva - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • That makes sense.

  • Thank you very much, gentlemen.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • You're welcome .

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Alex Blanton, your line is open.

  • Alex Blanton - Analyst

  • It's Ingalls and Snyder.

  • Just a comment before we start.

  • It would be really helpful if you could go back in your earnings release, go back to putting in your non-GAAP results on the P&L, just as you do on the website in the summary operating statement.

  • You should duplicate that presentation in the press release so that you have three columns, non-GAAP operating statement, adjustments between, and then the GAAP operating statement because as it is, you can't look at the press release and see a non-GAAP operating statement.

  • But those are the numbers that everybody looks at and wants to see.

  • So we have to go to your website which needs to be updated, and sometimes it doesn't get done on time.

  • It would be simpler to put it in the press release and you were doing that up until fiscal 2007 so I don't know why that changed.

  • So that's a suggestion for next time.

  • Now.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Thanks for the feedback, Alex.

  • Alex Blanton - Analyst

  • I've got a question on notebooks like everybody else.

  • Just after you announced your expansion of the R&D center, Reuters did several stories, and the numbers they presented on your capacity plans were in conflict.

  • The President of Flextronics Computing Segment was quoted as saying that by March 2011, you plan to have capacity to do 12 million notebooks a year, 1 million a month, up from 300,000 a month now, or at the beginning of 2009, actually.

  • And then later, another person at Flextronics was said to be a General Manager was quoted as saying no, you plan to hit 20 -- a capacity of 20 million units a year by the end of 2010.

  • I assume he must have been talking calendar 2010.

  • So those two were in conflict.

  • And then in a separate story, another story, talked about the sales target for notebooks to be $3.5 billion annually by the end of fiscal 2011.

  • So that would be a sales target, whereas the target of capacity of 12 million would be about $6 billion a year of capacity but $3.5 billion of sales, actually by that time.

  • Now, these were stories on Reuters from the Far East.

  • So it may not be reliable but could you quote -- could you comment on those numbers?

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Yes.

  • So, yes, we tried to tie off -- there was a lot of inconsistency with the reports coming out of the news agencies in Taiwan and we tried to tie off and tried to piece them together as best we could.

  • Now, keep in mind, in our presentation and our grand opening we didn't invite the press to those meetings so I think they were picking up a lot of data which -- where a $3.5 billion sales number for example may have included other pieces that didn't include notebooks.

  • It could have been servers.

  • It could have been other things.

  • So there was a lot of inconsistency that came out of there and rather than address each individual one, I think it's fair to say that the way to think about this is kind of getting the data from myself, which is we're going to hit about 1.5 to $2 billion.

  • We are investing additional design engineering.

  • We'll double the size of the design team, we expect to double the size of the design team over the next, say, two years.

  • We will add incremental capacity for our operations and anticipating continuing to grow the business.

  • But we don't exactly know what we're going to produce over the next few years.

  • We will certainly put up a building, capable of doing substantially more notebooks than what we're doing today, but that doesn't mean we're going to fully outfit the building with equipment and with people.

  • So we're just going to take this year by year.

  • We're going to make sure our customers have enough room for expansion and we're going to make sure we have enough room for our sales guys to book additional business and we're going to make sure we have room to diversify our business as well and be able to have room for new customers.

  • But there are no official numbers going forward into 2010 and even heard numbers into 2011.

  • So there's no official numbers that you can count on except it will be our objective to continue to grow the business over time.

  • Alex Blanton - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • One quick one.

  • You've got your SG&A down to $170 million now for the quarter which is 2.9% of the current sales level which sales level's down 40% year-over-year.

  • Can you hold, or how successful can you be in holding SG&A near the current level as the sales go back up?

  • Because if you do, your margins will really improve a lot.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • We're really pleased with the progress we've made in such a short period of time.

  • We think we can hold the dollars flat, certainly through this fiscal year and who knows beyond that.

  • But included in that line item is some R&D that's a little bit variable but for the most part it's fixed expense and we are right-sized for the level of business.

  • Alex Blanton - Analyst

  • Well, if you can do that, you're going to really accomplish something.

  • Okay.

  • Thank you.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Shawn Harrison, Longbow Research.

  • Joe Wittine - Analyst

  • Hi, this is Joe Wittine calling in for Shawn.

  • Can you hear me okay?

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Yes, Joe, okay.

  • Joe Wittine - Analyst

  • I want to talk about the revenue guidance just a little bit more I guess.

  • When I look at it, this may be splitting hairs, the midpoint of the guidance is down slightly sequentially.

  • Just by end market or by your business units, it sounds like the sequential declines may be more focused in handsets.

  • That was one thing I was able to derive from Mike's comments.

  • Is that a good assumption, I guess?

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Well, again, we've kind of got the same range we had last period.

  • I think I mentioned we had some good June pickup that we didn't anticipate so when you look at it sequentially, maybe the midpoint looks like it's down, maybe we'll get a pickup in September just like we got in June.

  • I don't know.

  • But I think the messaging that we're trying to give is we're kind of going to be flat.

  • We've taken the range from 5 to 6 to 5, 2 to 6 because we're getting more and more comfortable with the stability of the market and more predictability so as that predictability increases we pulled in the range of revenue.

  • But we kind of still look at the entire market as being pretty flat.

  • And we don't -- and it's getting more and more complicated to try to predict the market because we're seeing so many changes in industry.

  • We're seeing Chinese suppliers, what looks like gaining share relative to some of the US and European guys.

  • We're seeing some companies being more successful than others, so it almost looks like there's more of the market is going through its natural process of picking the winners and losers going forward.

  • And it's getting more complicated to try to even industry by industry draw generalized conclusions.

  • So I think what we've tried to do is just to single that -- we think we're flat in revenue.

  • We think the marketplace is pretty flat in revenue.

  • We'll see some continuing upsides probably in revenue later in the year as those notebook businesses ramp.

  • And we'll also get less deterioration out of our -- some of our former big customers.

  • And that despite the flatness in the revenue, we expect to improve margins so we're in a program to continuously try to improve margins, following up on Alex's comments, we're on a program to keep our SG&A total dollars flat and at which point if we see some revenue upsides, we'll benefit nicely from that.

  • So I think that's kind of the messaging and it's still difficult to project where the market's going.

  • So I think the message we would like you to take away is we kind of see the cumulative total of the market it's kind of flat even if it's flat we're going to keep driving our margins up over the next few quarters.

  • Joe Wittine - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thanks a lot for that color.

  • Just as a quick follow-up.

  • Do you have a number of what we can expect for interest expense for the quarter here given the payment that's going to happen at the end of this week?

  • Thanks.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • I think you should on a go forward look at a 35 to $40 million interest and other line item for the rest of the fiscal year, per quarter.

  • Joe Wittine - Analyst

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Steven Fox with CLSA.

  • Your line is open.

  • Steven Fox - Analyst

  • Hi, good afternoon.

  • Couple questions since you brought up mix.

  • Could you dig into some of the higher mix areas, especially enterprise and then the components business.

  • Trying to get a feel for on the components side first of all whether it was more of a drag on the quarter and how it would be for margins the next quarter.

  • I think you mentioned some positives and some negatives there.

  • From an enterprise standpoint, generally what you're seeing in demand for the rest of the year?

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Yes.

  • Well, let me take the component question first.

  • We have had a drag with our component business and I think that's mostly because it's just one step farther away from the marketplace than most of our EMS business, so our EMS business ,a lot of it is really direct sales through.

  • It really sells through directly so things like configuring a Cisco optical switch that goes directly into the marketplace when it's sold is -- we're kind of running one with the market whereas a component tends to fluctuate with inventory levels and big adjustments, so I think our component business, as a result, had a bigger standard deviation of swing.

  • So without doubt, that's pulling us down so those businesses are running below the EMS average.

  • Now, we'll expect those -- now, we are seeing those markets also stabilizing and coming back quite nicely and we actually expect from Q1 to Q2 to Q3 to Q4 to have continuous increases in margins.

  • And this is one of the drivers, not just the SG&A holding it flat at $170 million but this is going to be one of the drivers of us being able to continually improve the margins over the next few quarters, even with only a modest or even a flat revenue.

  • So we're unhappy that they kind of adjusted more than the rest of the business but alternatively they should come back more rapidly as the business stabilized.

  • So we have that to look forward to as one of our margin drivers.

  • On the enterprise business, boy, that's a tough one.

  • You know, a lot of it is location dependent.

  • A lot of it is which vendors are winning in those locations.

  • A lot of the enterprise growth, I'm thinking about -- are you talking about telecom, Steve or are you talking about --

  • Steven Fox - Analyst

  • I was thinking more servers than telecom equipment.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Okay.

  • So, yes, on the server base, that's also a tough -- for sure it's stabilized.

  • We just don't see it going down.

  • It looks to us like there's some market share shifts going on which we don't know for sure but it sure feels like that.

  • But I would view it as being stable and flat with maybe some market shifts going on which makes it feel like maybe there's some upsides and some down sides.

  • But if I look at the overall bundle I'm not sure it's going up very much.

  • I think it's reasonably stable.

  • Steven Fox - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Mike McNamara - CEO

  • Yes.

  • Operator

  • Lou Miscioscia with Brigantine Advisors.

  • Lou Miscioscia - Analyst

  • Looks like you guys have done a great job on inventory and working capital.

  • What should we expect for the rest of the year tying that into cash flow from operations and free cash flow in the sense that you've already brought them done to such decent levels.

  • Just wondering if there's a lot more room there.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • From an absolute dollar level on inventory it's kind of going to flatten out.

  • We've reef really done a fantastic job, $1.9 billion, as Mike said, over the last 12 minutes.

  • Hopefully with some increasing business, what we'll do is improve the inventory turns.

  • That's our focus.

  • Working capital, 19 days cash cycle, we're very proud of that.

  • We actually model that around 20 days so I think that's appropriate.

  • Free cash flow been positive for the last four quarters and it's going to hopefully be positive the rest of the fiscal year and that's our big focus for us.

  • We are absorbing restructuring charges in the year.

  • And which is roughly I think about $200 million of cash this year so that's been absorbed.

  • We reduced the securitization balances by $70 million this quarter.

  • That's kind of a one-time adjustment.

  • In taking all of that into consideration we still have free cash flow of 69, $70 million this quarter and expect positive free cash flow the rest of the year.

  • Lou Miscioscia - Analyst

  • You mentioned that you actually had a couple of things that are outside of the norm that maybe we're just not that familiar with.

  • Could you maybe highlight if there's anything that we should expect that also would be helpful from a cash standpoint?

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • Well, restructuring, securitization, those are the free cash flow affected items that I can think of as being one-time in nature.

  • Lou Miscioscia - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • Maybe we'll take one more question and move on.

  • Operator

  • Last question comes from Mr.

  • Ryan Jones, RBC.

  • Your line is open.

  • Ryan Jones - Analyst

  • Hi, thanks.

  • Just one quick question actually.

  • I was curious, you know, you've done such a great job I think on deleveraging the balance sheet.

  • At what aggregate debt level do you think you'll be happy running the business going forward and I know you've got this option now to take out I think it's the balance of the 1% converts.

  • Do you expect to exercise that ahead of schedule?

  • I think they're due in 2010.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • Well, we continue to look out.

  • We'll continue to be opportunistic in this market.

  • We're very pleased with the cash flow generation.

  • It's just we deploy it prudently really in the most strategic manner and we're very comfortable where we're at in terms of our capital structure.

  • No pressure on covenants, ample liquidity to run the business, a lot of flexibility now, we fixed the restricted payment last quarter, and more than enough to support the future business requirements.

  • So I think we're in a really good spot.

  • Ryan Jones - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Paul Read - CFO

  • Thanks very much.

  • Thank you, everybody.

  • Operator

  • Thank you for participating.

  • Today's conference is concluded.

  • Please disconnect.