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Operator
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the second-quarter 2012 earnings release conference call.
At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.
This conference call may contain forward-looking statements that reflect Management's current views of future events and financial performance.
These forward-looking statements are based on many assumptions and factors including the effects of currency fluctuations, customer preferences, economic and market conditions worldwide and other risks and uncertainties described in the Company's press releases and SEC filings.
We refer you to Foot Locker Inc.'s most recently filed Form 10-K or Form 10-Q for a complete description of these factors.
Any changes in such assumptions or factors could produce significantly different results and actual results may differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements.
If you have not received yesterday's release, it is available on the Internet at www.prnewswire.com or www.footlocker-inc.com.
Please note that this conference is being recorded.
I will now turn the call over to Mr. John Maurer, Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations.
Mr. Maurer, you may begin.
John Maurer - VP, Treasurer and IR
Thank you and good morning.
I'm pleased that everyone could join us this morning to discuss Foot Locker Inc.'s second-quarter 2012 results.
In our press release earlier this morning, we reported a 59% increase in second quarter net income to $50 million (sic-see press release "$59 million"), or $0.39 per share on a GAAP basis.
This profit level represents the highest level of earnings from continuing operations of any second quarter in the history of the Company as Foot Locker, Inc.
This result brings year-to-date earnings to $187 million, or $1.21 per share, an increase of 43%, also the highest profit level the Company has earned in the first six months of any year.
Lauren Peters, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will begin this morning's prepared remarks with a summary of our second quarter and year-to-date financial results.
She will also update our outlook for the second half of the year.
Ken Hicks, our Chairman and CEO, will then recap our progress on some of the major initiatives we outlined earlier in the year at our investor meeting, initiatives which we believe can continue to drive our performance to new heights.
Ken will also discuss the current business environment in the major regions in which we do business.
And we'll of course allow time for questions after our prepared remarks.
Good morning, Lauren.
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
Thank you, John, and good morning to you all.
We were pleased to report earlier this morning that we sustained top line momentum in the second quarter with a 9.8% comp gain, following the first quarter's 9.7% comp gain.
And just as in the first quarter, we were able to flow those sales to the bottom line to produce record EPS results.
Our domestic stores comped up in the low teens in the second quarter with gains in every division except for Lady Foot Locker which was essentially flat.
Foot Locker Europe's comparable store sales were also essentially flat, down less than 0.5%.
But total sales in Europe were actually up mid-single digits as we operated more than 30 additional stores in the second quarter of 2012 compared to a year ago.
Our other international divisions posted mid single-digit comp gains and our direct-to-customer segment posted an 18.1% gain including a gain of almost 50% in our store banner dot-com sales.
Coming on top of last year's Q2 comp gain of 11.8%, this year's overall comp gain marks the second consecutive quarter in which we have posted a two-year stacked comp gain in excess of 20%.
In fact, our two-year stacked comp gain for the first half of 2012 is a strong 22.1%.
By month, we posted high single-digit comp gains in May and June, while July was up double digits.
The strongest division in the second quarter was Kids Foot Locker, which posted a comp gain in excess of 20%.
Champs Sports continued its very strong performance, with a comp gain in the teens on top of last year's similar result, for a two-year stacked result of more than 30%.
Foot Locker in the US and Footaction also posted double-digit gains this quarter, on top of similar results a year ago.
CCS.com sales fell below last year by a low single-digit percentage as it ran far fewer promotions this year, compared to last, resulting in improved profit margins.
Excluding CCS, the other parts of our direct-to-customer segment, posted a gain in excess of 20%, for a two-year stacked gain of well over 40% for the second quarter in a row.
Footwear and accessories both had high single-digit comp gains, while apparel led the way with a low double-digit increase.
Within footwear, the kids business was strongest, not just at Kids Foot Locker, but in almost all of our divisions that sell kids merchandise.
Jordan product, adidas classics such as the Samoa, padded collar Chucks from Converse and slides all had very strong gains.
In men's footwear, basketball was once again the key driver.
There were several Jordan retro launches that pushed really well during the quarter.
In addition, we had tremendous results in marquee player shoes, led by LeBron, we were happy to see get a ring and a gold medal, but also Kobe, Rose and Durant.
The broader basketball business was very strong, as well as we continued to build on our leadership position in our biggest category with Nike, Jordan and adidas.
Running was relatively flat overall.
We continued to develop and differentiate our running and casual assortments to match the distinct customer expectations in each of our different banners.
Sales of footwear were down slightly at Lady Foot Locker, but overall we posted a positive comp in women's footwear as gains in several other divisions were solid.
Our positive results were driven by Nike lightweight, tech running, including the Colors That Run program from ASICS, adi classics and Nike Prestige.
Apparel sales in the US once again achieved a 20% comp gain.
The total Company apparel gain was low-double digits, due to comp apparel declines in Europe and Canada.
Graphic tees continue to be a major area of growth for us, and our team addition facility is busy producing T-shirts for several brands, as well as our own private label.
We have particular success with Jordan apparel that hooked up with the major shoe launches and we also saw significant gains in LeBron apparel.
Just as in footwear, the biggest apparel gains were in our kids businesses, overall brand Jordan was the biggest gainer.
Apparel sales comped up double digits at Lady Foot Locker, as we saw some early success with the improved apparel assortments in that banner.
The accessories business continued to be strong for us, both socks and hats were up double digits again with socks led by Nike Elite, Nike multi pack and adidas.
Snapback and NBA hats also saw big gains.
Turning to the rest of the income statement.
Our gross margin rate rose to a strong 31.3% in the second quarter, an increase of 90 basis points compared to last year.
We picked up 130 basis points from effectively leveraging our occupancy and buying costs.
However, we gave back 30 basis points in merchandise margin, and another 10 basis points due to lower shipping revenue from our online sales.
Let me focus for a moment on that 30 basis point decline in merchandise margin, which is a function of a few different factors.
First, our merchandise margins in Europe declined.
Although the rate achieved in the quarter remained higher than our US margins.
We have been aggressive in taking the mark downs necessary to keep our merchandise in Europe fresh, which remains key to sustaining the healthy, profitable business we have there.
Second, both our in-store and online operations in the US carry lower merchandise margins than our international divisions.
As the US businesses grow at a much brisker pace than our international operations, the proportionately higher mix of US business tends to compress overall merchandise margins.
Our merchandise margin in the US stayed steady in the quarter, even though our initial markup rate declined.
We are seeing price increases from our vendors and not all of these increases are passed on directly to customers in the form of higher retail prices.
However, we have been able to reduce our mark down rates to offset the impact of the lower initial markup.
Thus, the increases in average selling prices that we continue to see are a combination of higher prices from the vendors, some of which we pass on to our customers, and lower mark downs, which we achieve by continuing to execute the initiatives of our strategic plan.
These efforts include differentiating our banners, making our stores and digital sites more exciting places to shop and buy and more effectively allocating our merchandise to make it more productive.
And no discussion of margins would be complete without noting that overall apparel margins remain below footwear margins.
We've made good progress in the US, but internationally, where apparel margins are already higher than footwear margins, we did lose some ground with the tough market conditions, especially in Europe.
We continue to work hard to improve margins in all product categories.
Turning now to SG&A.
Our expense rate improved 120 basis points to 22.4% in the second quarter from 23.6% last year.
SG&A dollars increased by only $5 million on a $92 million sales increase.
Year to date, SG&A expenses have risen only $13 million on a $218 million sales increase.
The biggest driver of this performance is the disciplined approach we take in managing store wages.
In fact, all of our divisions including Foot Locker Europe have improved their year-to-date sales per payroll hour metrics.
We believe this performance can get even better over time as we begin to capture the benefits of the new time and attendance system that we implemented in the second quarter.
Our depreciation expense was $29 million in the quarter, up $1 million from last year, while interest expense was flat at $1 million.
Our tax rate came in at 36.7% in Q2, slightly better than the 37% we planned for, primarily as a result of a tax rate change in Ontario.
This tax benefit contributed $0.01 per share to our earnings.
Thus, without that item, non-GAAP EPS in Q2 was $0.38, as opposed to our GAAP results of $0.39 a share.
A GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation reflecting this adjustment will be included in our second quarter Form 10-Q.
The bottom line net income total of $59 million is the highest level of earnings from continuing operations of any second quarter in our history as an athletic Company.
Similarly, the year-to-date net income total of $187 million is easily the best result in Foot Locker, Inc.'s history.
Reflecting Ken's well-documented constant state of dissatisfaction, the entire team at Foot Locker, while proud of these results, remains far from satisfied.
We see too many opportunities for us to improve our Business further to be content.
We have many initiatives under way to take advantage of market opportunities we see ahead of us, which we believe can drive performance even higher, and Ken will talk more about those initiatives in a few minutes.
First, though, let me give you a brief real estate update.
We ended the second quarter with 3,354 stores, having opened 47 new stores and closed 62 so far this year.
You'll recall that at the beginning of the year we estimated that we would open 82 new stores and close 75.
Our store openings are on plan, with the store count in Europe up by 20 year to date and several new highly productivity House of Hoops stores opened in the US.
On the flip side, we now expect to close about 100 stores during 2012.
We have identified opportunities to close additional stores which we have been using to clear mark down merchandise.
Given our significantly improved inventory position, it is definitely a positive that we do not need to operate as many of these clearance stores as we have in the past.
Speaking of inventory, we ended the quarter with about $1.2 billion in inventory, down $38 million, or about 3% from last year, despite a 7.2% increase in sales.
Weaker foreign currencies had a lot to do with the nominal decline.
On a constant currency basis, inventory was flat, and it was up about 1% on a per store basis.
The productivity of our inventory continues to get better overall and we feel well-positioned in all of our markets for the important back-to-school season.
We ended the quarter with $820 million of cash and short-term investments, an increase of $139 million from the end of Q2 last year.
We spent $37.5 million in the quarter to buy back about 1.2 million shares, bringing our year-to-date share repurchase program to $64.6 million and a reduction of approximately 2.1 million shares.
As mentioned on our last call, we have increased our projected capital spend for 2012 to $170 million, and just this week we met with our Board of Directors to preview our potential capital spending program for the coming years.
It is still premature to discuss specific numbers because much depends on the degree of success of the various tests we are currently conducting and plan to conduct over the next year or so, but the potential exists to take up our capital spending significantly over the next few years.
We continue to follow the model of first developing a prototype, making adjustments, and then thoroughly testing in order to understand the sales and profit potential before committing large amounts of capital to any project.
As a result, our goal was to ensure that any capital spending scenario would enhance our financial performance over the long term, while not disrupting it in the short term.
Let me touch on a couple of key topics for the rest of the year before I turn the call over to Ken.
First, we continue to be cautiously optimistic about our business for the back half of the year.
Given the trend from the first half of the year and our early back-to-school sales, we are positioning ourselves for comp sales growth at the high end of mid-single digits.
So far in August, our comps are running up double digits, including a mid single-digit gain in Europe.
While that performance is of course very good, there are some shifts including timing of certain launches, tax holidays and school openings that make reporting comps over such a short period less meaningful.
That said, the momentum of our Business is clearly intact globally.
In terms of gross margin, we continue to anticipate 30 to 40 basis points of improvement in the second half with gains from leverage somewhat offset by pressure on merchandise margins.
The primary merchandise margin dynamics I mentioned before, IMU pressures from our vendors and the higher growth rate of direct-to-customer and US store sales compared to international sales, are likely to continue.
Similarly, we still plan SG&A expenses for the remainder of the year to improve as a percentage of sales by 60 to 80 basis points.
That would equate to a full year rate decrease of about 100 basis points.
Our tax rate over the back half of the year is likely to be slightly higher than our previous outlook of 37%, as a consequence of the higher than planned proportion of earnings that are coming from our US business where the tax rate is higher than our average international rate.
Blended with the favorable tax rate in the first half of the year due to some one-time benefits such as the Ontario rate change, we're still likely to be close to 37% for the full year.
Finally, we had profit headwinds of about $0.01 per share in the second quarter due to currency movements.
Using constant year-over-year FX rates, our EPS would have been about $0.01 higher in Q2 than the $0.39 we reported and about $0.02 higher year to date.
Assuming exchange rates stay where they are now, the exchange rate differential in the back half of the year will be smaller than it was in the second quarter, since the euro in particular started to weaken in the second half of last year.
On the other hand, our international profits are greater in the second half so any differential has a somewhat greater impact.
Bottom line, we are still expecting headwinds of about $0.05 per share for the full year.
This impact has been factored into our guidance of double-digit percentage profit increases in each quarter for the rest of 2012.
With that financial overview, let me give the floor to Ken so that he can discuss some key initiatives and the trends in our business.
Ken?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thank you, Lauren, and good morning everyone.
Thank you for your participation on the call and your interest in Foot Locker.
I am very proud of the entire team at Foot Locker.
We have achieved consistently strong financial and operational results so far this year.
Our record of consistency goes back even further.
In 2011, we posted a 9.8% comp gain for the full year.
Now this year, we posted a 9.7% comp gain in Q1 and a 9.8% comp gain in Q2, having achieved, as Lauren said, an impressive two-year stacked gain of over 20% in both quarters.
In fact, we've now reached our 10th consecutive quarter of meaningful sales and profit growth.
I believe this track record of steady improvement is a consequence of carefully executing the initiatives of the strategic plan that we first laid out more than two years ago, and which we continue to refine as we identify new and exciting opportunities to increase shareholder value.
Lauren did a great job highlighting the key drivers of the quarter, basketball, kids, apparel in the US, to name just a few.
So before I get to your questions, I'm just going to spend a few minutes reviewing some of our key ongoing initiatives and where we stand at the moment.
From a store perspective, we have several exciting things in the works.
We've talked in the past about our Champs prototype store in Florida.
We now have 11 test stores open so we can determine if the excellent results we got out of the prototype happen when the stores are spread around the country in different market situations.
At the Foot Locker division in the US, we have a new prototype store open in the Smith Haven Mall on Long Island, and so far, so good.
We have a number of Foot Locker test stores with some variations on tap for later this year and early next year.
We have a three-pronged effort with Lady Foot Locker.
First, as Lauren mentioned, we've upgraded the apparel assortments in virtually all of our existing Lady Foot Locker stores, and the initial results have been encouraging with the double-digit apparel gain there in the second quarter.
Second, we're also in the process of remodeling 14 Lady Foot Locker stores in which we intend to really highlight the apparel offerings with much of the apparel assortments displayed prominently on the walls and with many of the shoes moved to the center of the store.
Most of these stores are open now or will be shortly, so feel free to contact John after the call if you might like to see where the closest store to you is.
Third, and finally, we intend to open three new concept stores for women before the holiday selling season.
These stores will be merchandised significantly different than a Lady Foot Locker store, with much more apparel, stronger coordination between shoes and apparel and more emphasis on performance.
These stores will have a new name plate over the door which we'll announce later in the quarter.
We're excited about the opportunity in the Women's business, but we'll have to see how these various tests play out before making any decisions about the future direction of our Lady Foot Locker business, or how best to apply some of the learnings to our other Women's businesses.
Moving on to Kids Foot Locker, we have several test stores operating now with an updated look, and given the current strength of our Kids business, we're eager to get going with further roll out.
But we're just in the middle of the back-to-school season, so it's still too early to make decisions.
In Europe, we've expanded beyond the locker room prototype store in Brent Cross that we told you about at the end of 2011, and now have two additional test stores operating in the UK with two more on the continent slated for later this year.
We're also experimenting with additional kids stores in Europe, which we think is a natural.
In the meantime, we continue to expand the Foot Locker store count in Europe as planned.
The business there remains profitable and we are investing for the long run in Europe, which we believe will stabilize over time.
Lauren mentioned that we have more initiatives in the works than ever before and you can see that we have a lot happening on the bricks and mortar front.
But we're far from idle in the digital space.
I feel we can do a better job of communicating all the exciting investments we have made and are continuing to make to position our online and mobile applications as the premier destinations in the industry.
Certainly we believe no one is better plugged in than we are as to how our young customers want to be engaged and how they use technology to shop and buy.
We are in a constant state of refinement and enhancement at Foot Locker.
We recognize it is a necessity to constantly upgrade our technical capabilities to meet the quickly changing demands of our tech-savvy customers.
First, at our Eastbay business, we continue to build on the competitive advantage we have with the high performance varsity athlete.
We are constantly enhancing the functionality and engagement features of the Eastbay website with aspirational imagery, authentic athletes and story lines and features such as the Athletic Resource Center, or ARC.
At ARC, our exceptional athletes can measure their physical performance against elite world-class athletes with Close the Gap.
Football players can see from real players how equipment works on the field, from cleats to pads to gloves and more, and from position to position with the Eastbay Edge.
We also plan to leverage Eastbay's unparalleled reach to high school athletes and coaches, as well as our strong relationship with Nike to build a much more meaningful team sales and service business.
We are strengthening the team sales organization and have already started selling in California, and we're also positioning for the future growth in key states such as Texas and Florida.
Second, we're investing in expansion of our e-commerce business in Europe.
We're now online including mobile applications in several countries on the continent, in addition to the UK, where we've been already operating for a couple of years.
We have more countries rolling out over the next few quarters.
Third, we are strengthening the omni-channel experience for the customers of our various bricks and mortar brand banners in the US.
We already have excellent award-winning web and mobile sites that leverage the efficient infrastructure of our direct-to-customer model.
We continue to introduce capabilities that clearly pay off, such as enabling online purchases to be returned to stores and buy online, pick up in store.
We're supporting this with a mobile feature that enables shoppers to locate their favorite banner's nearest physical store.
We're testing the use of hand-helds and iPads for both our associates and customers in the US stores.
We already have hand-helds in most stores in Europe.
We're on the vanguard of testing new payment options from PayPal, Google Wallet and Isis, and we're exploring the use of Wi-Fi for our customers.
In these and other ways, we continue to align the look and feel of our in-store experience with our digital retail space.
As a matter of fact, we held this week's Board meeting at our direct-to-customer headquarters in Wausaw, Wisconsin, where we showcased to our Board of Directors our existing capabilities and our plans to capture the ongoing migration of more and more of our customers to the digital space.
The 50% increase in our store banner dot-com sales that Lauren mentioned early on during the call is a good sign we believe we're on the right track.
Turning to the macro situation.
Lauren used the words cautiously optimistic, and I'd like to echo that sentiment when summing up how we see the athletic industry over the back half of the year.
The pace of product innovation coming from our key vendors, such as Nike, adidas, Converse, Jordan, ASICS, New Balance, Mizuno and Under Armor is as fast as ever and our customers are continuing to vote enthusiastically in favor of our assortments.
That said, we have an election coming up and a so-called fiscal cliff the country is approaching, so there's always the potential of an impact on the US economy that we will have to manage through and the future direction of Europe's economies in the short run especially is still highly uncertain.
As I said, though, we're investing there for the long term.
But our Business remains solid in the US, Canada and Australia and it seems to be picking up in Europe, with positive comps there in July and so far in August.
We will continue to plan cautiously but we believe we have the right product in the stores now for back-to-school and the right product coming up--in for the holiday selling season.
The Olympics have helped to expand awareness of quite a few high profile athletes and several exciting new technologies.
The NFL is already getting its season under way, on time.
And later on the NBA season will also start on time.
These elements all support an overall trend that continues to be positive for our industry.
To wrap up my remarks, I'd like to reiterate my appreciate for the hard work of the entire team that made our excellent second quarter and record year-to-date results happen.
Their team work, both within the Company and with our brand partners and other major suppliers, enables us to connect with our customers and reach new heights of customer satisfaction and financial performance.
As high as we climb, however, we still see plenty of opportunities ahead and we're determined to execute our strategies to reach even higher.
Thank you.
Operator, let's open it up to questions.
Operator
Thank you.
We will now begin the question-and-answer session.
(Operator Instructions) Camilo Lyon from Canaccord Genuity.
Camilo Lyon - Analyst
My first question, you guys mentioned that running was flat in the quarter.
I was wondering if you could give a little bit more color around the category, and what might be behind the flat trends that you're seeing?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
We have seen good performance in our lightweight running and our technical running.
Where we've had challenges is in some of the higher priced air running.
And in units, we're doing well, it's the shift in the dollars.
But we feel confident with some of the new air product that's out there and the continued growth of lightweight running that running will continue to improve.
Camilo Lyon - Analyst
Got it.
That's helpful, thanks.
And then shifting over to Europe, feels like the trends there are a little bit volatile, which is to be expected.
What do you think is driving the most recent strength in July and August?
Is it really all of the Olympic boost or is there something underlying there that has helped the latest few weeks here?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well, there obviously was some impact by the Olympics, but that was primarily in the UK.
We saw good performance as a result of some of the new product that we've got, lightweight running is one of the important new ideas.
We also are seeing some very good performance on some of the classics like the blazers and some of the shoes from adidas.
So we've implemented a new technology zone that is allowing us to sell more performance-related running product that's helped our business, and so you put all of those elements together and we're seeing some better results than we did at the end of last year.
Camilo Lyon - Analyst
Are there some stores or countries in Europe that don't have the lightweight running product just yet?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
No, we've got the technology throughout all of our stores in Europe now.
Camilo Lyon - Analyst
Okay, got it.
And then my third and final question actually relates to technology.
You spent a little bit of time discussing the investments of where you're at right now.
One of your larger competitors has made a big push into upgrading their technology systems really from front to back.
Do you feel like there's a need for you to increase any of your expense or CapEx dollars to catch up with them?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
We don't think we need to catch up with them.
We think they're trying to catch up with us, quite frankly.
We've had hand-helds in our stores for a period of time in Europe, as I stated and got them in a number of stores in the United States.
We've had a very good distribution system, or I'm sorry, planning system in our Company for a period of time and are now looking at an allocation system which I believe they're looking at both of those.
And we have been testing and trying different kinds of pads and screens in our stores for a period of time.
We've spent a great deal of money making sure that we have very workable websites, both online and mobile.
So I salute them for trying to catch up with us, but we've been pretty aggressive in this space and I think our results show that we continue to make progress there.
The thing we don't do is we don't try to clear a lot of product online and it's one of the reasons why our online performance I think our profitability is higher than theirs.
Camilo Lyon - Analyst
Got it.
Thanks a lot and good luck with back-to-school season.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Eric Tracy from Janney Capital Markets.
Eric Tracy - Analyst
Thanks.
Good morning.
Congratulations, guys on a great quarter.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thanks, Eric.
Eric Tracy - Analyst
I guess we can focus on quarter-to-date trends, upload double digits.
Maybe just talk through again the various categories from basketball to running on the footwear side, what apparel's kind of contributing to that.
And then it does sort of seem based on the guidance that there is an expectation for that to moderate a bit.
Again, maybe just how we should be thinking about that, those trends for early back-to-school.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well, right now as we said, we're up low-double digits early this month, but I think that when you look at the business, running as we stated was flat, we had a strong performance in basketball, strong performance in apparel, strong performance in classics.
Our Men's and Kids business was good.
Women's business continues to be a little bit more challenging at Lady Foot Locker.
It's up overall, by the way, throughout the whole -- when you put the whole Company Women's business together, it's up.
So we've got a lot of legs of the stool as I like to call it that are working.
Where when you look ahead, I don't think that saying -- it's kind of funny when somebody says the upper end of mid-single digits is conservative, that seems to me like we're stepping out a bit.
But if you could tell me who's going to be elected, what's going to happen with the fiscal cliff, and what'll happen with the economy in the back half of the year, I could probably be more certain about how to plan.
But I think we're planning appropriately based upon the trends and what we see which from the vendors, the product looks great.
There's a lot of fantastic things that they're bringing out and we're working with, so I feel good about the back half, but I'm not willing to step out way too far.
Eric Tracy - Analyst
Fair enough.
And by the way, if you could -- anyone could tell us what those things are, we'd all make a lot more money.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
That's right.
Eric Tracy - Analyst
So maybe just in terms of the NFL license, how we should think about that in planning the business.
Certainly seems like an incremental year-over-year boost, but how we should be thinking about you assorting the product going forward.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Yes, we feel very good about the new -- Nike's new license of the NFL.
They're being very aggressive with the product, the marketing of it, looks great.
And the season, obviously, hasn't really even started yet.
We're going to have some very strong presentations.
Champs will be the headquarters of that.
We're going to have a terrific store setup in Champs and we're going to have some stores that are going to have really spectacular setups.
But all of the stores will be selling the hats, we'll have some of the apparel in some of our other stores.
But Champs will be the headquarters in brick and mortars and we'll have a very strong presentation online through Eastbay and through the champs.com, champssports.com.
Eric Tracy - Analyst
Okay and maybe lastly, Lauren, for you, just switching to the merchandise margins.
Possible to sort of quantify the mix shift towards US, obviously growing at a faster pace, and maybe quantifying that?
And then how we should think about sort of other opportunities, initiatives that you have in place that could support sort of offsetting that US mix shift?
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
Yes, so we talked about it being 30 basis points of merchandise margin.
The bigger piece of that coming as we work through product in Europe to keep those inventories fresh, smaller portion being the mix that we talked about with the strength in the US and online business.
So, as we think about margin expansion, we continue to believe that as we do a better job of flowing our product and making it more productive, allocation being an area that we're investing in technology to get even better at our job there, that that will create opportunities for our merchandise margins to improve.
Eric Tracy - Analyst
Okay, fair enough.
Thanks, guys, and best of luck in the back half.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thank you.
Appreciate it, Eric.
Operator
Michael Binetti from UBS.
Michael Binetti - Analyst
Hi, guys, good morning, congrats on a great quarter.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thank you very much, Michael.
Michael Binetti - Analyst
So let me just fine-tune something on Europe.
As we think of the mid-single digits that you said you're seeing in comp growth there right now, obviously there's some noise there based on the rest of your comments.
Is that -- as we think about your guidance for global comps up at the high end of the mid-single digits, are you planning -- does that comment bake in kind of a run rate in the mid-single digits in Europe or is there some leeway there?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
No, we feel very good about what the European team has done and where they are, but our plans or our forecast, I should say, for the fall season are not that aggressive for them.
Michael Binetti - Analyst
Okay.
Thanks, that's helpful.
Can you talk a little bit about the new labor planning initiative that you launched in the second quarter and is that something that's rolled out to all stores now, or is that something that -- and even if it is in all stores, I guess, is that something that can continue to ramp as a margin contributor as you go forward and fine-tune it?
Any color there would be helpful.
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
Yes as-- at this point rolled out now to all stores in the US, and it will be coming to Europe a bit later.
Definitely you should think about it as paying dividends over a longer term as we become even more proficient at using it.
So, what it's intended to do is to get us even smarter about how we spend our hours to make sure that we're aligning with peak selling periods, and that you have your very best salespeople at your very peak traffic times.
So yes, it definitely is something that will pay out over a long period of time.
Michael Binetti - Analyst
Okay.
And then one just for Ken, I guess.
Ken, with all -- the number of initiatives you highlighted was pretty heavy, which one are you personally most excited about right now out of all the ones you just talked about?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
I love all my children, thankfully.
Michael Binetti - Analyst
Come on.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
I tell you what.
The ones-- the most straightforward ones that we're seeing, obviously, are the prototypes and what's happening there.
They also happen to be some of the more expensive.
I-- the Kids is very, very encouraging, and it's one that provides -- there's nobody in that space as strong as we are, and that's a great opportunity.
I feel the Women's opportunity personally is a terrific one for us.
Again, because that space, while there's some new entrants, we provide something with the brands and price points and quality and performance that nobody else does.
And then finally, what we're doing in dot-com and it's across three fronts, Eastbay, team sports and our banners, as I said, we just reviewed it with the Board this week and they were -- I think they were very positive and felt very good about our team's capability and where we can get that division as we go forward on -- and I just mentioned some of the things that we're doing to improve our dot-com sales.
They feel very good about what we can do there.
So it's difficult to pick one out because we've got to make sure that we test and support all of them.
One of the most important things is that we've divvied up the workload so that we can execute it and we don't -- the thing that I'm most worried about is that we buckle because we have too much going on and the team feels pretty comfortable in our ability to execute against this.
Michael Binetti - Analyst
Okay.
Thanks and congratulations again on a good quarter.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Okay, thanks, Michael.
Operator
Paul Trussell from Deutsche Bank.
Paul Trussell - Analyst
Thank you, good morning and congratulations.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thanks, Paul.
Paul Trussell - Analyst
Ken, price points have been certainly a part of the success driving the top line.
Just a few questions on this topic.
I guess first, could you just kind of speak to the change in mix and performance that you've seen of $100, $150, $200 price point items versus a year ago, and versus the product that are below $100 price points?
Second, can you just kind of give us an update on where we are in regards to the inflationary pass-through from the vendors, is there still more to come or are we somewhat done with that for the year?
And just lastly, is there -- there seems to be a willingness to pay up for very unique attributes in footwear, whether it's the color ways, the styles, the technology like Nike plus, or events like the Jordan's Golden Moments Pack tomorrow.
As we approach $300 price points with certain items, are you seeing any pushback at all on these higher price points or is the demand still much greater than the supply?
Thanks.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Okay, thanks, Paul.
The first point on price points, we are seeing price points go up and we're working with the vendors to make sure they're thoughtful, because there's some classic shoes that you try to maintain as close as possible, but then there are new shoes with new features where you're able to get more.
Our average selling price has gone up and we have seen -- I would say for the technology look and important shoes, that's a growing classification for us, that over $100 group, and so that's good.
Part of the reason is, some of the shoes that were under $100 have moved into the over $100, so there's more of an offering there.
But we also -- we're doing a good job with Converse and the Chucks, and they're some of our largest group of lower than $100 shoes, but the growth is coming in the greater than $100 for us because there's more shoes there and there's more going on.
With regards to inflation on cost, the cost for the shoes for the fall season is pretty well baked.
We've already signed the purchase orders and those are done.
And again, as I said, we've worked with the vendors.
We're seeing some pressure.
Lauren talked about a little bit of pressure on margin, but it's manageable at this point because the prices have gone up.
And it gets to your last comment, the customer has been willing to pay for the higher prices.
I think there will be -- the big jump in inflation probably has occurred but there will still be some continued cost pressure because of wages and things like that back with the manufacturers.
But the customer is willing to pay for those high end shoes and in fact, that's where some of the larger increases has occurred because of the demand for them and it hasn't slowed the demand.
But we're also seeing even with higher prices on a lot of the lightweight technology, the customer has-- demand has not slowed down for those shoes either.
Paul Trussell - Analyst
Okay.
Great.
Thank you, that was helpful.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Okay.
Thanks.
Operator
Robbie Ohmes from Bank of America.
Robbie Ohmes - Analyst
Just a few quick follow ups.
Can you -- will you guys quantify for us the sort of ASP component to that great same store sales number you put up?
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
No.
Robbie Ohmes - Analyst
(Laughter) Can you tell us if it was more than half of the comp for the quarter, ASPs?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
We had increases in average selling price.
We had increases in traffic.
We had increases in conversion.
Robbie Ohmes - Analyst
Got it.
Thanks.
And then --
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
All the elements went the right way.
Robbie Ohmes - Analyst
Got you.
And then for fall you mentioned that you're pleased with the product lineup for fall and holiday, is there anything new coming in on the apparel side that you can call out?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well, you're seeing more obviously the NFL is a big plus.
NBA, lightweight isn't just shoes.
The uniforms that the Olympic team wore were over a pound less.
I mean I didn't know they weighed a pound, but over a pound less than the old Olympic uniforms, and so we're excited about new technology in apparel.
There's some new looks coming.
Jordan's got some strong items that we think will be very good, and as their largest retailer, we feel good about what we have coming from Jordan.
And then there's new technology in shoes, the whole Lunar idea, Nike Plus, Me Coach, that technology is something that the customer's learning about and starting to get excited about.
So beyond -- it's not just they're lightweight, there is technology and stuff.
Probably, though, the biggest thing that's exciting about both in apparel and in shoes is color.
Right now, color is hot.
You look at -- we ran the ASICS Colors That Run, and we have terrific colors from Nike and adidas and New Balance has some phenomenal color shoes.
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
You couldn't miss the color in the Olympic.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
No, and you couldn't miss the color in the Olympics, that's right.
But that is one of the things that's really exciting about what we're seeing because people need -- they've got to have three and four different pair of shoes to go with the different outfits.
Robbie Ohmes - Analyst
That sounds great.
Thanks very much, Ken.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thank you, Robbie.
Operator
Joseph Parkhill from Morgan Stanley.
Joseph Parkhill - Analyst
Hi, good morning.
Congratulations on a nice quarter.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thank you.
Joseph Parkhill - Analyst
I was just curious if you could talk about your decision not to pass through some prices, what areas you didn't think you could, and the reason behind it, given that your total comps are so strong?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well, I think quite frankly that's one of the reasons why we didn't pass through all the prices.
I mean there's some shoes that they go over a natural price point, or because of comparisons to other shoes and what the competition's offering, it just isn't appropriate to take up enough to capture.
And recognize that that was only a small part, this is not a huge issue but it's something that is real.
But in order to keep the sales and in order to drive the leverage that we got, there was -- and it's all very selective on the item, decisions, and again, working with the vendors because we are in a competitive market.
We can't raise a price on a shoe and a competitor have the same shoe at a lower price and be competitive.
So we've got -- we watch the market very closely to make sure that we have competitive prices so that we can drive sales.
Joseph Parkhill - Analyst
That's helpful.
And then just from a -- I mean I know it's just a small part but that headwind would most likely wane as we head into 2013, even expect price increases coming, given commodity costs or--
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Say again.
Joseph Parkhill - Analyst
Would you expect some of price increases to slow headed into 2013?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
No.
Joseph Parkhill - Analyst
No?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
I think that based upon the business and what's happening, what I think that you will see is more value.
There's more being put into the product and so while the price may go up, the customer's willing to pay for it either because of the look, the technology or whatever.
So there will be some continued price increases.
I don't think it will be at the rate that it has been.
Joseph Parkhill - Analyst
All right, thank you and good luck.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Okay.
Thanks, Joe.
Operator
Kate McShane from Citi Research.
Kate McShane - Analyst
The apparel strength during the quarter was great to see but I think in Lauren's prepared comments she noted that the merchandise margins in apparel were below that of footwear.
And I just was wondering is it a matter of accelerating the sales and full price sell-through of apparel to get those margins above that of footwear or is there still mix changes that you're making in apparel?
And can you update us on your view of private label?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Yes, Kate, it's really three things.
One, is the shoe margins continue to improve, so it's chasing something.
Two, there's some things that we're looking at in terms of mix as we continue to exit some of the lower margin commodity businesses that we did in the past and move into more branded and more performance-driven apparel.
And the third thing is, and we're in the process of doing this, is developing a more -- a stronger, more effective private label program where we can get stronger margins on our own private label.
So, it's putting all three of those elements together.
Well I'd say the first one I don't want to change, I want to keep chasing the footwear.
But the last two, getting that mix right with our brands, and building a private label business that's more effective.
Kate McShane - Analyst
Okay, great.
And then my second question, and I know you're still in the very early stages of your new concepts in ladies and the changes you're making at Lady Foot Locker, but is the thinking with the other concepts you announced today, if it works would that be a replacement or would that be in addition to Lady Foot Locker?
And with regards to, again, the new concept, are we -- can we expect to see other brands that you don't currently carry and is the store going to be bigger or smaller on a square footage basis?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
The store will be bigger.
It will be focused on the brands that we have but it will have more, because it is bigger, it will have more product and product that you might or that I know you wouldn't see in a Lady Foot Locker or other places, just because it'll be big enough to hold more of it.
We will have to see the performance versus Lady Foot Locker.
There may be room for both or we may have to choose between the two.
Right now, it's a gleam in the eye and I'll feel better about what's happening.
I've seen the new Lady Foot Locker, the 14 prototypes and it looks very good.
Now we've got to see how it performs.
We'll do this new store.
The renderings and the floor plan and everything look great, now we've got to see how it looks on the floor and how the customer responds to it.
Kate McShane - Analyst
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Okay.
Thanks, Kate.
We'll go a few minutes over if that's all right, Operator.
Operator
Chris Svezia from Susquehanna Financial.
Chris Svezia - Analyst
Good morning everyone and congratulations.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thanks, Chris.
Chris Svezia - Analyst
Just a quick question.
When you made the comment about quarter-to-date trends, shifts in the calendar, tax free holidays, can you just clarify what that is and how much of it impacts, if you could quantify that has on that double-digit performance?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
There are always changes.
One state will move up and there are only a couple of states where the tax frees really do matter and they're comped to last year.
But-- and we've had a shift in a launch shoe that we've moved up a little bit but then we've got some other launches that are coming.
So I would say it's a nominal difference, and I could tell you at the end of the month whether it was more positive or negative.
But it's just some things got moved up, some things got moved back, we think they offset each other but not sure exactly how much.
Chris Svezia - Analyst
Okay.
All right, that's helpful.
And then I guess I'm curious with regard to some of the prototypes in the talk, Foot Locker and Champs, and I guess Lauren your comment about how we start to think about CapEx in upcoming years, you must be encouraged by at least some the things you're seeing and some of the things you're developing.
Can you maybe just talk just a little bit on what that might be, what they might be, and how quickly potentially if this does work in check you can ramp up those remodels?
I mean are we talking several hundred a year?
Just any-- I know it's a little ahead of the game, but just any thoughts there.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well we're pleased with some of the early roll-outs and some are more extensive than others and they happen -- Champs is more extensive than kids, and so there's several variables that are included.
One is how good they perform.
If they're off the wall, we'll move faster than if they're just good.
So that will be a determining factor.
Two, is for some of these, like Champs, we've got to close the store for a period of time.
You guys are pretty tough and we close a bunch of stores, there's a negative there and we don't get the positive quite as quickly.
So, we've got to manage that.
And the third is just our capability to absorb all this, this is a lot.
But we would like to think, and in fact one of the things that we've reviewed are different scenarios, kind of low, medium and high of what we can and can't do and within each of the different divisions.
And so depending on what the reads are, we'll make a determination.
One, we may move out faster than another because it's stronger.
But right now we think that they at least look promising.
Chris Svezia - Analyst
Okay.
And then the last question I have, just real quick here, on the second quarter does -- when certain brands maybe grow faster, call it maybe Nike, which theoretically might have lower product margins than other brands, or certain concepts, kids versus your core Foot Locker chain or Champs grow faster, does that have an impact to some degree on your product margin rate?
Did that have any impact during the second quarter?
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
All of those things are elements to mix, but that gets pretty granular, trying to pick all that apart.
Chris Svezia - Analyst
Okay.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
I mean there's all factors, but we don't disclose them, we manage them.
Chris Svezia - Analyst
Okay, fair enough.
As long as you generate high gross profit dollars then it all leverages to the bottom line.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Exactly.
Chris Svezia - Analyst
Okay, fair enough.
Thank you, all the best.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thanks, bye-bye.
Operator
John Zolidis from Buckingham Research.
John Zolidis - Analyst
Hi.
Thanks.
Good morning and great results.
Most of my questions have been already asked and answered, but I just want to confirm, Ken, that you think that footwear ASPs can continue to rise in FY '13 and then I guess why do you -- what do you think is going to be the main driver of that?
Thanks.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well, I think-- and I think it'll be moderated some, it's not going to be huge increases.
But the reason I think they can -- there's a couple of reasons.
One is the value that they're putting in the product, there's new technology, new looks, new ideas, and so the customer wants those.
And the second is, the customer demand is there.
We're seeing the increases and the response to the customer for the new product is strong.
So I think that they will continue to react positively, as long as we continue to offer great product for them.
John Zolidis - Analyst
Okay.
Thanks a lot and good luck.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Okay, thanks, John.
Operator
Sam Poser from Sterne, Agee.
Sam Poser - Analyst
A couple questions real quick.
On the gross margin, Lauren, how did the FX affect the gross margin by itself?
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
FX, $15 million to gross margin.
Sam Poser - Analyst
All right.
Thank you.
And then just to clarify, Ken, I think there's a -- when you talk about your margins, there's a big difference between your initial mark up and your mark up on goods sold, I assume and your cleaner inventories and everything, despite the fact that your IMUs may not be increasing as greatly as they used to, your mark up on goods sold is higher because you're running a cleaner, faster turning inventory, is that just the right way to think about it?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
What you're saying-- yes, the squeeze is on IMU, not necessarily on the margins.
Sam Poser - Analyst
Right.
Because I think people are confused about how you're speaking about it.
So I mean I just want to be clear --
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
That's helpful because yes, when we're talking about the IMU squeeze, as opposed to the gross margin squeeze, because we continue through better planning, allocation, fewer mark downs, cleaner inventory to deliver good margins.
Lauren Peters - EVP and CFO
That's the dynamic.
You get pressure on IMUs, it's just that much more pressure to do a good job in managing the inventory, so your mark downs are lower, therefore your margins are better.
Sam Poser - Analyst
Right, no exactly.
And then lastly, on the apparel initiatives that you're working on, I noticed in -- I was out in the store in Smith Haven, are you working on basically getting out of most of the nested tables and doing more hanging, which will free up salespeople, present the product better and help drive sales-- drive better sales in apparel?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
We're playing down significantly those commodity products that are not -- don't really quite frankly fit what we're trying to do and that's what those big tables were for.
So you're going to see more presentation, more coordination, more fashion product than just cotton by the pound.
Sam Poser - Analyst
And that's mostly going to be hanging?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
A lot of it will be hanging.
One of the things that you will see, you go in the store and you look up in the walls and you see the T-shirts, and the T-shirts will still be on the tables but the customer uses it like a menu, I see that, okay that's the one I want, here it is and shopping that way.
Sam Poser - Analyst
Right.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much and continued success.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thanks, Sam.
Operator
Bernard Sosnick from Gilford Securities.
Bernard Sosnick - Analyst
Well thank you for extending the Q&A period, I appreciate it very much.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Sure.
Bernard Sosnick - Analyst
What you've given us essentially is the outline of an over-arching theme of an evolving Foot Locker.
I'm not going to ask you to give us the new five-year plan, but essentially the Company, you're saying, is going to be transformed over the next three to five years through the roll-out of new prototypes.
Could you just give us in the broadest brush terms what you think this is going to mean, in terms of an evolution over a several year period?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well, the thing obviously with more exciting, engaging store environments, a much stronger direct-to-customer business, be it mobile or online, a better connection between those two, a much stronger element of quality that we will be positioned for the long term.
We've had the same format in our stores for 20 years.
We've not -- in the past did not have our channels connected.
We now are working, recognizing that the customer wants that great environment, wants the channels connected, wants to have the information, wants to have and is willing to pay for quality performance product and fashion and look that that'll position us for much longer than what we're going to do the next quarter.
Bernard Sosnick - Analyst
Essentially, you're also saying that Foot Locker in the past had a homogenous offering and you're going to more life style, so there's going to be greater variety of product offered in the athletic footwear inspired business.
What are your thoughts with respect to how the mall will be changing with respect to athletic products?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Well, I think the customer's looking for alternatives and places that they can go to to get product that's both exciting and also fashion, performance, all of those things together.
There's a great trend.
You look at what people are wearing now, they're wearing more active apparel.
We're fitting in with that.
We're the place to go for brands and I think the mall will be an important element of that.
But you've got to connect it with the broader assortments and information that we have online.
Will I need a different size?
I want a different color.
I want something.
We offer that capability.
I want to know more about what this shoe does for me, whether I pronate or supinate.
I want to know, was this the shoe that Durant wore when he won the World Cup.
All of those different things are elements of where we're working.
And I think that these pieces, while they're individual, when you put them together will provide that exciting, new environment and connectivity for our customers.
Bernard Sosnick - Analyst
Can I ask one other question with regard to hand-helds?
Finish Line, Macy's, Nordstrom say they have hand-helds that'll provide inventory information within the stores and the ability to find the item, color, size in another store if it's unavailable in a particular store, or to have it shipped from a distribution center or another store to fulfill the order, is Foot Locker equipped to do that now?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Yes.
We have -- our hand-helds do both administrative jobs, inventory, receiving of packages, but they also, and the ones we have and we're testing a couple of different versions of them, which is one of the reasons haven't rolled out is trying to make them more functional and easier for the associate and the customer to use, but that will provide -- whether or not I have it in the back room, so I don't-- I'm sorry, ma'am, I don't have that in a 7.5 but I got it in an 8, it runs a little small, if you'd like, I could go get that, or I have it in this color.
So they can do that selling right on the selling floor, help them.
Second thing it allow them to do is we don't have it here but the Foot Locker down the street has it.
You can go there and I can reserve it for you or I can have it shipped to your home or shipped to the store.
And it can also -- oh, you'd like to know a little bit about that shoe, how much it weighs, here's the information on that.
So provide all of that right there in the associate's hand to be able to deal with (inaudible).
Bernard Sosnick - Analyst
I'm very pleased that you clarified that and it's clear that you're not being left behind at all.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thank you.
Bernard Sosnick - Analyst
Thank you very much for the answers, and congratulations on the performance.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Thanks, Bernie.
We'll do one more question.
Operator
Omar Saad from ISI Group.
Sam Lee - Analyst
This is actually Sam Lee in for Omar.
Thanks for squeezing me in here.
Ken, my question -- I have a couple of questions.
Seems like in the US in particular, you guys are nicely outperforming relative to your competitors.
Are you seeing a similar relative outperformance in Europe or can you speak to sort of what you're seeing in that region?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
I would say that we are performing as well as most people there.
Europe's a different environment because in Europe we're the only real Pan-European retailer in our space, and there are local ones in each country.
And so in some countries we're doing very well, in other countries there might be a competitor that's doing as well, or possibly even better than us.
So it's difficult to say across the board we're doing better or worse.
I would say that we are doing as well as on average as any of the competition.
It's a challenging environment for everybody.
One of the things that's happening is there's a lot of impact on some of the weaker merchants and a number of them are going under.
In fact, there's been quite a bit of press about the UK.
I will tell you, we're doing much better than what some of the press has been written about some of the competition in the UK.
So I would say we're doing as well, if not a little better in Europe than most of our competitors, but it's not a Pan-European, it's country by country.
Sam Lee - Analyst
Okay, great.
And my second question was on the Nike Flyknit.
I think previously you had indicated that you expected to have the shoe in select Foot Locker stores, I was wondering if you would be willing to share sort of your initial reads on that particular product, and where you think it could trend over time?
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
I think the product will be terrific.
I think it offers a lot in terms of look, weight, performance.
But I can't tell you how it performs because we don't have any yet.
We're getting them in some select stores, as you said, in the different chains and different -- in the different countries in the next couple of months.
But I wish we could have a lot more.
I wish I could tell you, but I haven't had any yet.
But I feel very good about the product.
Sam Lee - Analyst
Great.
Thank you very much.
Ken Hicks - Chairman and CEO
Okay.
Thanks.
John Maurer - VP, Treasurer and IR
All right, that's all we have time for now.
Thanks again for your participation on today's call.
We look forward to having you join us on our next call which we anticipate will take place on at 9 AM on Friday, November 16, following the release of our third quarter and year-to-date earnings earlier that morning.
Thanks again and good-bye.
Operator
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference.
Thank you for participating.
You may now disconnect.