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  • Operator

  • Greetings, and welcome to the Frequency Electronics Incorporated Q1 2014 earnings release conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. (Operator Instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

  • Any statements made by the Company during this conference call regarding the future constitute forward-looking statements pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements inherently involve uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements.

  • Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences are included in the Company's press release and are further detailed in the Company's periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call.

  • It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Good afternoon, everyone. This is Martin Bloch. Welcome to our conference call of first quarter of fiscal 2014. I'm going to turn this call over to Alan Miller, who will go through the financial details. And then I will try to give you some color on Frequency's progress, and open the conference for questions and answers.

  • Alan, please proceed.

  • Alan Miller - Treasurer, CFO

  • Thank you, Martin, and good afternoon, everyone. For the first quarter of fiscal 2014, Frequency's revenues were $16.8 million compared to last year's first-quarter fiscal 2013 number of $16.7 million. Revenues from satellite payloads remained the dominant market for Frequency, and the area of largest growth going forward. Satellite payload revenues increased approximately 16% over the prior-year period and accounted for over 55% of consolidated first-quarter revenues.

  • Revenues from non-space, US government DoD programs, including sales by FEI-Elcom and FEI-Zyfer, accounted for about one-fourth of consolidated revenues. Total revenues for US government DoD end use activities, both for space and non-space programs, continued to account for more than 60% of Frequency's consolidated revenues. Network infrastructure revenues, which are reported in FEI-New York, FEI-Zyfer, and Gillam-FEI, were about 15% of consolidated revenues. Based on our current backlog and new satellite bookings awarded at the end of the first quarter, we anticipate continued strong revenues from the satellite payload market in fiscal 2014.

  • Our gross margin for the first quarter was $6.3 million compared to $6 million in the year-ago quarter. And this increased gross margin is due to the increased revenues and improved gross margin rate, from 35.8% to 37.2%. As we've discussed previously, our gross margin rate is impacted by product mix and the sales volume of our subsidiaries.

  • Fiscal year 2014 SG&A expenses of $3.86 million were comparable to last year's $3.5 million, and were 21% of revenues in both years. This level of SG&A expenses is in line with our expectations; and, as revenues increase, we would expect to see the ratio of SG&A expenses to revenues to decrease.

  • As we noted in our press release, during the first quarter of fiscal 2014 we continued to accelerate our R&D investment in that new satellite payload product line of Ku and Ka band receivers and converters. R&D spending in the first quarter was $1.7 million or 10% of revenues compared to last year's $1.4 million or 8% of revenues. We expect the rate of R&D spending to moderate during the latter half of fiscal 2014 and expect full-year R&D spending to be less than 10% of revenues. The higher R&D spending in fiscal 2014 is reflected in the small decline in operating profit, from $1.081 million last year to $963,000 this year.

  • Other income, which consists of investment income, offset by interest and other expenses, netted to income of $93,000 compared to income of $117,000 a year ago. This yields pre-tax income of $1.056 million compared to $1.198 million last year. We recorded a fiscal 2014 tax provision of $380,000 or an effective rate of 36% compared to last year's $430,000, also just about 36%.

  • Depending on the profitability of our foreign subsidiaries, we anticipate that our effective tax rate will fall in the range of 32% to 36% for all of fiscal 2014. This yields net income of $676,000 or $0.08 per diluted share compared to $768,000 last year or $0.09 per diluted share.

  • For the quarter, we used the $2.2 million of operating cash flow primarily due to the growth in accounts receivable and inventory. With respect to billed receivables, the balance at the end of the first quarter was $12.6 million, up $4.8 million from the $7.8 million balance at April 30. This growth results from our meeting contractual and production milestones during the first quarter, which will generate substantial positive cash flow in the second quarter of this year.

  • Our reported backlog at the end of April -- I'm sorry, at the end of July, was about $56 million compared to $51 million at the end of fiscal 2013. Except with respect to cost-plus contracts, we include in backlog only the funded portion of our long-term contracts. Over three-fourths of our backlog is for long-term satellite programs, split about equally between commercial and US government programs.

  • As we announced in June, we established a $25 million credit facility with JP Morgan Chase. During the first quarter, we took down an additional $3 million, of which $1.5 million was used to acquire capital equipment in connection with expected, future production requirements. For all of fiscal 2014, we expect CapEx to be between $2.5 million to $3 million.

  • I'll now turn the call back to Martin, and we'll respond to your questions a little later. Martin?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Thank you, Alan. When things are going great, my remarks can be very short, and I'll give the most time to questions and answers. We have accelerated the conclusion of development of the up/down converter down receiver line because of the business opportunities. We have tested the engineering models, and we expect to perform the delta qualification before the end of calendar 2013.

  • It is much easier for us to do it because we had legacy on the receivers, and we are flying them already for quite a few years in space. And this is just an improvement in size, performance, and the ability to produce large numbers per satellite instead of the isolated receiver down converters we built for many of the sensitive programs on this.

  • I would also like to emphasize that there is significant opportunity in increase in profitability on space programs, as they are now the most profitable portion of FEI's product line, because there's a certain baseline of cost that you have to be in the space business. And as a typical example, a baseline of $10 million will be there in place if you ship $20 million of space product. It will go up to $12 million if you ship $80 million worth of space product.

  • That's why I'm very bullish on Frequency's future, since the majority of our backlog is in both commercial and military space programs. Most of the orders that we have received are very fortunate on legacy products that are already flying; and, therefore, we expect to be able to meet the much-demanded shorter cycle time. And the risk for being on budget and maintaining good profit margin are excellent in this.

  • We have already significant proposals outstanding on our new product line with the programs that are scheduled to be concluded by the end of this calendar year, or beginning of calendar 2014. What makes Frequency very attractive at this time to our customers -- which is of course the bloodline of -- is that demand is for shorter cycle time on this lower power, lower weight -- to put more capacity on existing platforms. And that's what's Frequency Electronics investment in the past and every program that we have -- this is our main focus on how we can reduce size, weight, and power, and still maintain the space legacy.

  • And short cycle time is becoming not only important on standard space programs, but very, very important on host payloads, which the opportunities is that the train is going to leave on a given date if your host payload is ready or not. So cycle time is becoming very, very, very important. And because of our legacy, our inventory of critical parts, and both also making a substantial difference is our ability of quartz products from raw material to finish product. On this, we are able to meet that demand, and satisfy our customer's requirements.

  • I look forward to increase in revenue and profitability for the last two quarters of fiscal 2014. And of course the timing is how these programs that we have can be phased in and shipped out. Many of the programs that we have booked in the first quarter on this will result in revenue in the later part of fiscal 2014.

  • I'd like now to open this conference to questions and answers. Please be kind enough to address the question either to Alan Miller or myself so we can give you a very precise answer. Thank you for listening in. Go ahead.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Jim McIlree, Chardan Capital.

  • Jim McIlree - Analyst

  • Yes, thanks, good afternoon. It's Jim McIlree with Chardan Capital. Alan, in your prepared remarks you said 25% of revenues came from something, and I just missed it. What was that? 25% from what?

  • Alan Miller - Treasurer, CFO

  • About one-fourth of our revenues were generated from non-space US government related work.

  • Jim McIlree - Analyst

  • Non-space USG. Great, thanks. And, Martin, you confused me a little bit on the converter products. It sounds like you might get orders by the end of this year, but revenues by the end of next year. Did I hear that right?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Almost. Okay, we already have orders on our down converters on units that we have space experience. But this is a very high revenue, single type of up/down converter for special missions. The new converters that we are finishing development will be for military and commercial communication satellites, of which there are not one or two receivers per satellite, but 40 to 140. And so those are the products that we have outstanding proposals. And, yes, we expect the progress on there at the end of this calendar year, or definitely before the end of this fiscal year.

  • Jim McIlree - Analyst

  • Okay, great. That makes sense. And can you just -- just two more, if I can. Can you give us an update on GPS and the next programs?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Well, we are fully funded to develop -- to finish the development of the clocks for GPS III. We are going through right now, then, the process of getting units built for qualification and for anticipated flight. And at that time, this is going to be a competition between us and then one other supplier who is going to fly clocks on the next 33 to 36 GPS satellites.

  • And then the basic philosophy is that there's going to be both suppliers on the satellites, and whoever has the most cost-effective product will fly two. The other one will fly one, in order to make sure that we have mixed technologies for best reliability. And we will do our best to be the one with the most attractive price.

  • Jim McIlree - Analyst

  • And on the NEXT program, the Iridium NEXT program?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • The Iridium NEXT program, that's fully funded, and we have delivered the engineering models. We are going through qual and will be producing all of the timing and all of the equipment over the next three years, per schedule. As a matter of fact, we are blessed today with having Thales Alenia team right here for a progress review.

  • Jim McIlree - Analyst

  • Right. And my last one, Martin, you talked about the leverage in the model. And I think I missed the denominator on the first one. You said if you (multiple speakers) talking about that 10 to something, and 12 to 80, and I just (multiple speakers).

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Yes, okay. I'll (multiple speakers) in more clear language. In order to be in space business you need a certain infrastructure, which is certain of your research laboratories, certain of the quality control systems, certain of the procedures. And that's roughly a $10 million bite. And the $10 million -- you need $10 million in place if you're going to ship $20 million of space product. You're going to go from $10 million to $12 million if you ship $80 million worth of products.

  • In short, what that means is that although we have very good margin on space products, they will continuously significantly improve as we capture and ship more volume on both commercial and military space.

  • Jim McIlree - Analyst

  • Fantastic. That's what I was looking for. Thanks a lot, and good luck, everyone.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • You are welcome. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Tristan Thomas, Sidoti & Company.

  • Tristan Thomas - Analyst

  • Hello, guys. How are you? Two quick questions, first one regarding the capital equipment purchase. How soon is that expected to be implemented and really online?

  • Alan Miller - Treasurer, CFO

  • It should be almost immediate, shouldn't it?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Yes. Some of it is immediate, and the other portion is some AT equipment for the anticipated increase in volume. This is -- we want to do more with machine and less with touch labor, both for accuracy and throughput. So I would expect that half of it is being implemented immediately, and the other half I would say within the next 3 to 4 months.

  • Tristan Thomas - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thank you. And last question, obviously the satellite business is doing very well. Regarding Zyfer and Elcom, can you just do a quick comment on either the profitability or the lack thereof in those two segments?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Okay. Well, Elcom, let's take that first. One of their main functions is to help us finish the development of both the new space product, and that's one of the main reasons for our acquisition. On their own product line, they are holding their own, but they are affected to a small degree with a savings that the US government applies. The same applies to Zyfer. They are affected a little bit by the reduction in military spendings. But, again, we are trying to give a new missions incorporating FEI's product line and their objectives.

  • Another mission that FEI-Zyfer is pursuing very actively, and has great opportunity in the future, is to improve the security of government interoperability between services. And that is being pushed as a high priority programs at FEI and at FEI-Zyfer.

  • Tristan Thomas - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thank you so much.

  • Operator

  • Sam Rebotsky, SER Asset Management.

  • Sam Rebotsky - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, Martin. I'm not sure if you said this; I'm on a cell phone and it's not as clear. How many millions are you running on a satellite right now, and how many satellites do you have? And is it different from the previous quarter?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • The number of -- I think Alan has mentioned that our backlog of orders is 75% on satellites. And some of them are new satellites, and a good portion are just legacy satellites that are now being pushed very high into service in order to get a bandwidth goal for the military and the commercial ones.

  • Sam Rebotsky - Analyst

  • I know that your objective was $25 million per satellite. Are you at $10 million? Have you increased from the previous quarter, or how much millions per satellite?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • We are still in -- between depending on the satellite and the complexity, between $5 million and $10 million, just because we have not implemented any of our new product line in the satellite at this time. (Multiple speakers) our goal is to do it by the end of this calendar year.

  • Sam Rebotsky - Analyst

  • End of this calendar year, okay.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • And have it by the end of this fiscal year.

  • Sam Rebotsky - Analyst

  • Fiscal year, okay. Good luck. Thank you.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Jonathan Brolin, Edenbrook Capital.

  • Jonathan Brolin - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, guys. I have two questions for you. The first is on GPS III. You mentioned that there will be one provider who gets two clocks, and one who gets one. What is the revenue differential between those two? Is it 2 to 1? And what is the total revenue opportunity there?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Well, the total revenue opportunity for GPS III on the clock is -- and this is my personal estimate, so don't take it to the bank -- is probably someplace around $100 million for the program.

  • Jonathan Brolin - Analyst

  • Okay. And so if you were to divide that, is it reasonable to assume that the person that is getting two clocks gets $66 million, and the person that's getting one clock gets $33 million and change? (Multiple speakers) ballpark?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Roughly. I would imagine that since a larger portion -- assuming the quality and performance is a given. You have to meet the quality and performance at this point. Then whoever has a better cost model will get the two-thirds; and the other one will get one-third. So, that's not bad estimate, what you made.

  • Jonathan Brolin - Analyst

  • And that plays out over how many years?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Well, only God knows for sure. But the present plan is to get all of the GPS implemented in the next 3 to 4 years.

  • Jonathan Brolin - Analyst

  • Okay. And then outside of that, there was an announcement this morning of HEICO acquiring Lucix, which plays in the microwave module integrated subsystems for commercial and military satellites. Do you have any comment on that transaction, either what it means for the industry, or your thoughts? Do you run into Lucix in competition? Do you have thoughts on Lucix being owned by a larger company? And does it have any impact on Frequency?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • That's -- there in sales, we do run into Lucix. Second, I don't see any impact in this. I want to put one differentiator between us and Lucix. They do provide microwave on reference sources for both military and commercial satellites. The big differentiator is that one of the key ingredients in this product, the quartz low phase noise oscillator -- which FEI has fortunate to build it from raw material to finished product -- that enables us considerably shorter cycle time and better performance. And I think that gives us a significant advantage. But I don't see any difference if they operate it by themselves or part of HEICO. I don't know very much about HEICO, though I've never run into them in any space programs.

  • Jonathan Brolin - Analyst

  • Okay. All right, that's helpful. Great job; look forward to more updates. Thank you very much.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Michael Eisner, Private Investor.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • Hello. Great job for the quarter.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Thank you, Michael. You are back from your vacation in one piece?

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • Yes I am. I lost my voice, but I'm back.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Okay.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • What is going -- any update on the smart electrical grid in France?

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Yes, we just had a review with Gillam. We had the official Board meeting just two hours before. They are pursuing -- it's a great opportunity for upgrading the defense telecom equipment, and they are working it on a day-to-day basis. And we should have some more inputs within the next 3 to 4 weeks.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • Great. And what was the backlog? I couldn't catch that.

  • Alan Miller - Treasurer, CFO

  • The backlog at the end of July was $56 million.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • That's what I thought you said. You said -- thank you, Mr. Miller. But you mentioned it in the release, $30 million you booked during the first quarter?

  • Alan Miller - Treasurer, CFO

  • Yes, but not all of that was funded.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Those are orders. And you know the way orders are placed is that you place the order and you do funding for the first six months until you work out all the details, cross the i's and dot the t's. And we only included in our backlog what is funded, not what is on order.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • That is still a huge amount.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • It is. We were very delighted on this. It's one of the highest quarters in our history.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • That's what I thought. You never had that much, did (multiple speakers).

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • It was very exciting.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • All right, great job.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Thank you.

  • Michael Eisner - Private Investor

  • Thank you. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to management for closing comments.

  • Martin Bloch - President, CEO, Director

  • Okay. Again, thank you for listening in. We expect to have a great year and beyond, and our products are meeting the needs for shorter cycle time and more cost effectivity. And to all our Jewish listeners, I want to wish a Happy New Year on this. Goodbye, and we'll see you next quarter.

  • Operator

  • This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.