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  • Operator

  • Good day everyone and welcome to the FedEx Corporation third-quarter earnings conference call.

  • Today's conference is being recorded.

  • At this time I would like to turn the conference over to Mr.

  • Mickey Foster, Vice President of investor relations.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Mickey Foster - IR Director

  • Good morning and welcome to the FedEx Corporation third-quarter earnings conference call.

  • The earnings release and 25-page stat book are on our website at FedEx.com.

  • This call is being broadcast from our website and the replay and podcast download will be available for approximately one year.

  • Joining us on the call today are members of the media.

  • During our Q&A session callers will be limited to one question and a follow-up, so we can accommodate all those who would like to participate.

  • We are planning an investor meeting in October in New York so please save Thursday, October 2, 2008 on your calendar.

  • We will have more details about the meeting for you in the next few months.

  • I want to remind all listeners that FedEx Corporation desires to take advantage of the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act.

  • Certain statements in this conference call may be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the act.

  • Such forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.

  • For additional information on these factors please refer to our press releases and filings with the SEC.

  • To the extent we disclose any non-GAAP financial measures on this call please refer to the investor relations portion of our website at fedex.com for a reconciliation of such measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures.

  • Joining us on the call today are Fred Smith, Chairman, President and CEO; Alan Graf, Executive Vice President and CFO; Mike Glenn, Executive Vice President, market development and corporate communications; Chris Richards, Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary; Rob Carter, Executive Vice President, FedEx information services and CIO; Dave Bronczek, President and CEO of FedEx Express; Dave Rebholz, President and CEO of FedEx Ground and Doug Duncan, President and CEO of FedEx Freight.

  • And now our Chairman, Fred Smith, will share his views on the quarter followed by Alan Graf.

  • After Alan we will have Q&A.

  • Fred Smith - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Thank you very much, Mickey, good morning everyone and thank you for joining our earnings conference call for the third quarter of fiscal year 2008.

  • Like many companies FedEx is facing a challenging economic environment that includes persistently high oil prices, sluggish US growth and significant concerns in the credit markets.

  • The FedEx diversified portfolio of transportation solutions and our wide global footprint, however, give us flexibility to adapt to shifting economic conditions.

  • We believe in fact there are significant opportunities to add new customers who appreciate the global FedEx value proposition.

  • Morale among our team members is strong and our service levels are very high.

  • We are concerned by the steep, relentless rise in oil prices and we see little justification based on near-term supply and demand conditions to support these prices.

  • There is no doubt speculative trading has driven prices higher overriding market principles and adversely affecting consumer and corporate spending.

  • Our chief economist, Gene Huang, calculates that the increase in retail gasoline costs since mid-October has resulted in consumers now paying over $1 billion more per week for gasoline for example, than they would have at last October prices.

  • At FedEx we believe persistently higher fuel prices and the related effects of our fuel surcharges are reducing demand on a macroeconomic basis and leading some customers to shift to less-expensive services.

  • But fortunately we have a broad portfolio and are able to offer our customers those types of alternatives.

  • As many of you know we have been very active over the last couple of years in trying to get the Congress and the Administration to come up with a more forward thinking energy policy, and we were gratified with the first step taken last December with the bill that was passed which hopefully will have some effects in the months and years to come in addressing this problem.

  • Now at FedEx in particular we will continue to invest in more fuel-efficient aircraft, vehicles and facilities, and will accelerate the retirement of equipment when we can achieve a good ROI from doing so.

  • As we survey the current economic landscape we expect limited earnings growth in FY 09 given the current outlook for macro economic conditions and fuel prices.

  • There is clearly stress in the housing and financial sectors and they create a drag on the overall US economy as well as the fuel prices.

  • In calendar year 2008 we expect US GDP to grow more slowly than in 2007.

  • Our United States revenue growth rates will continue to be restrained across all segments for the remainder of 2008 because of this slower demand for US domestic express package services and the slow LTL freight market in general, although we are doing very well there as Doug Duncan will talk about later.

  • We continue to take revenue share in the US domestic express package market for example.

  • We expect the international economy will continue to expand overall albeit at a lower rate and this will be fueled by the emerging markets.

  • During the third quarter our average daily package volume grew 5% year over year overall, boosted by continued strong increases in FedEx international priority shipments, international domestic express shipments and FedEx Ground shipments.

  • Now the wildcard going forward remains the price of fuel.

  • We are in uncharted territory when oil consistently sells for more than $100 a barrel.

  • Risks remain in elevated oil prices, credit concerns and a softening labor market.

  • Despite these short-term issues we remain optimistic about long-term growth prospects as cyclical swings give way to more historic stable macroeconomic trends and the US and world economies adjust to these very high fuel prices as they undoubtedly will.

  • I, for instance have lived through this now for the fourth time; in 73, in 79, in 1990 and now in this fuel run-up.

  • I would point out however that based on my rough calculations this is probably the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world, $2.5 trillion from the OECD oil importing countries to the oil-producing countries since the price of fuel began to run up in 2002.

  • Thanks to our strategic investment in key markets over the years we are confident that FedEx is well positioned to take advantage of long-term global economic growth trends and to deliver better results in the longer term.

  • One example of the strategic investment now paying off for FedEx is our FedEx national LTL based on the acquisition we made over a year ago.

  • We reengineered that network and it now provides a high level of service that quite frankly has never been seen in that industry segment.

  • As we manage our cost enterprisewide we will look closely at ways to realign our expenses with revenues.

  • We will continue to limit discretionary spending, reduce and delay capital expenditures, and hold the line on adding staff.

  • We will continue to invest in long-term strategic projects like the 777 and 757 programs that we believe will benefit our share owners and our customers.

  • Another example of that long-term orientation is our significant expansion into the Chinese domestic market which began on May 28 last year.

  • I would like to share with you several accolades we received since we last spoke.

  • Earlier this month and for the seventh consecutive year Fortune Magazine named FedEx to its top 10 list of America's most admired companies and the world's most admired companies.

  • In January FedEx was recognized as among the 100 best companies to work for, a distinction that has been awarded to FedEx in 10 of the last 11 years.

  • In addition we were also named a top 50 employer by Equal Opportunity Magazine, InfoWorld's top 100 technology innovators and the number one and most admired company for human resources by Human Resources Executive Magazine.

  • Now such recognition is gratifying but it is important from a business perspective as well, because this trust and respect that the public have for FedEx helps us recruit and train the very best people, to gain new customers and to expand more easily in communities around the world.

  • In April we marked 35 years of continuous operations and it is gratifying to realize we have built such a world-class reputation in a relatively short period of time.

  • From the earliest days of this company we made a commitment to put a lot of emphasis on our folks and in turn our teammates would work each day to make every FedEx experience outstanding.

  • That is the FedEx purple promise.

  • As we move forward in these challenging times we are committed to keeping a sharp eye on our costs and capital expenditures across all segments.

  • We will continue to maintain and in fact improve our very high levels of service to our customers.

  • We intend to leverage our unmatched portfolio of services to market and sell the right service in the right network at the right price.

  • We intend to roll out productive, innovative information technology applications and to take good care of our people.

  • And now let me turn the microphone over to Alan Graf our Chief Financial Officer.

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Thank you, Fred and good morning everyone.

  • Today we reported earnings of $1.26 per share for the third quarter ended February 29 compared to $1.35 per share a year ago, in the face of a very challenging economic environment as Fred discussed.

  • I should point out that last year's earnings per share included an $0.08 tax rate benefit so excluding that we were essentially flat year over year.

  • Revenue growth up 10% for the third quarter of 2008 was primarily attributable to continued growth in international services at FedEx Express, growth at FedEx Ground and increases in FedEx Express US domestic package yields.

  • Higher fuel surcharges continue to be the key driver of increased yields in our transportation segments.

  • Operating income was flat due to the continued impact of substantially higher fuel prices and the weak US economy which pressured volume and yield growth at FedEx Express and FedEx Freight.

  • For the company fuel expense increased 42% in this third quarter versus the prior year.

  • Additionally higher expenses associated with advertising and promotion and strategic technology initiatives, as well as expansion and service improvement initiatives at FedEx Kinko's, and expansion of our domestic express services in China also had a negative impact on our results.

  • While FedEx Kinko's continues to be a significant source of profitable revenue for the FedEx Express and Ground divisions its core and print business continues to be a drag.

  • Lower variable incentive compensation combined with cost containment activities partially mitigated the negative impact of these factors.

  • Now let's take a look at our segments and we will start with Express.

  • FedEx Express revenues increased 11% in the third quarter primarily due to increases in fuel surcharges, the impact of favorable exchange rates and international priority volume growth of 6%.

  • US domestic package volumes decreased 2% during the third quarter of 2008 as the ongoing weak US economy continued to negatively impact demand for these services.

  • US domestic yield increases up 6% were primarily due to higher fuel surcharges and general rate increases partially offset by lower package weights.

  • IP yield increased 10% due to favorable exchange rates, higher fuel surcharges and increases in package weights partially offset by decreases in the average rate per pound.

  • FedEx Express operating results were negatively impacted by the continued softness in the US economy, increased intercompany charges and continued investment in our domestic express service in China.

  • Net fuel costs versus last year's third quarter, one additional operating day and favorable exchange rates partially mitigated the impact of these factors on our operating results versus last year.

  • Turning to Ground, revenues increased 13% during the third quarter of 2008 due to continued volume and yield growth.

  • Average daily volumes at FedEx Ground increased 7% and the continued growth of our FedEx home delivery service was outstanding where volume grew 15% versus last year.

  • Operating income and margin were lower due to increased intercompany charges from the FedEx services segment and costs to enhance and defend the independent contractor model, partially offset by the benefit from one additional operating day.

  • Fuel costs increased 96% during the third quarter of 2008 and purchased transportation cost increased as a result of higher rates paid to our independent contractors and their higher fuel costs.

  • Intercompany charges increased during the third quarter again primarily due to increased net operating costs at FedEx Kinko's associated with reduced copy and print revenues, store expansion and service improvement activities.

  • If you take a look at our Freight segment, revenues increased 5% during the third quarter due to higher less than truckload yields.

  • Although average daily LTL shipments decreased 3% as demand for these services continues to be restrained by the weak US economy we are growing market share in both regional and national sectors.

  • FedEx Freight segment operating income and operating margin decreased primarily due to the net impact of higher fuel costs, the fuel surcharge rate reduction and fewer long-haul LTL shipments.

  • Now let's look at our guidance.

  • As Fred mentioned we expect our revenue growth rates to continue to be restrained across all segments for the remainder of 2008.

  • For example at Express our fuel surcharges are indexed to the spot price of jet fuel and for the month of April the fuel surcharge will be 20%.

  • Based on current prices with the exception of the last two days, that could increase in May.

  • And we are in areas of very high elasticity.

  • FedEx expects to earn between $1.60 and $1.80 per share in the fourth quarter of 2008 compared to $1.96 a year ago.

  • Last year's fourth quarter results did include a $0.06 per share benefit from a settlement with Airbus related to the A380 order cancellation.

  • I must say I don't have as much confidence in this range as I normally do due to oil price volatility.

  • The volatility in oil price has been so high that it could cause us to miss this range on either side depending on how fuel prices react for the rest of 2008.

  • This outlook assumes no additional increases to the current fuel price environment and no further weakening in the economy.

  • Looking ahead to our fiscal 2009 and based on the current economic environment we are expecting a continuation of fourth quarter trends which would result in limited earnings growth next year.

  • We are in the middle of our fiscal 2009 business planning process now so I cannot give you any clearer picture on the future than that until we meet again in June.

  • We expect capital expenditures in 2008 of approximately $3 billion, very similar to what we spent in 2007.

  • Much of the anticipated increases on spending to support long-term volume growth including expanded or additional facilities and aircraft.

  • We also plan to continue to invest in our technology capabilities to improve productivity and service levels.

  • Because of the substantial lead times associated with the manufacturer and modification of aircraft we must plan our aircraft orders and modifications well in advance of the expected delivery of the aircraft.

  • While we also pursue market opportunities to purchase aircraft when they become available we must make commitments regarding our airlift requirements years before aircraft are actually needed.

  • We are scrutinizing all capital expense initiatives to realign with current business volumes.

  • FedEx Kinko's did open 252 centers this fiscal year to date as part of its plan to open 300 new centers this year.

  • Given the weak economic outlook Kinko's will significantly slow its rate of expansion in fiscal 2009 to about 70 new locations.

  • To answer a question that I anticipate being asked, for both goodwill and recorded intangible assets at FedEx Kinko's, the recoverability of these amounts is dependent on execution of key initiatives related to revenue growth, location expansion and improved profitability.

  • We will perform our annual impairment testing of these assets in the fourth quarter of 2008.

  • We will continue to invest in our long-term strategic projects, focus on expanding our global networks and broadening our service offerings to position us for future growth once the economy begins a recovery process.

  • However if the economy downturn continues or becomes more pronounced, we will take additional actions to control costs and capital expenditures.

  • And with that, operator, the team is now ready to answer questions.

  • Operator

  • (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS).

  • John Barnes, BB&T Capital Markets.

  • John Barnes - Analyst

  • Good morning, guys.

  • Alan, could you talk a little bit about when you are talking about making these changes to the CapEx budget, give us specifically where are you talking about pulling in you know is it aircraft, is it -- I know you talked about Kinko's and slowing the growth there but is there any more specifics you can provide there?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Let me talk about aircraft first.

  • With fuel prices where they are and who knows where they are going to go, the fact of the matter is I wish we could get our 757s even faster and retire our fuel inefficient 727s much more quickly.

  • And while that would require more CapEx in the near term those are very high ROI projects that would have significant long-term benefits.

  • You know the utilization is more or less 50% more efficient per-unit carried for the 757 so that is a significant reduction in fuel costs right there on our cost per package.

  • We look at where we thought we would be on our capital plans as late as the end of calendar 2007, and we are seeing significant reductions in the demand for our services compared to what we thought they would be.

  • So therefore when you look at dock doors for example at Freight or expansions of the domestic express capabilities they are not going to be needed as soon as we need them so we are looking to push those out to better align our CapEx with our long-term growth opportunities and try to time them better.

  • So we will have a lot of very interesting decisions to make here over the next couple of months and we will have more to say about that in June.

  • John Barnes - Analyst

  • Okay so if I hear you right no real change to the equipment spending but a little bit of a pullback on more of the infrastructure spending?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Right, going to try to better match our capabilities with what we think the market demands are going to be.

  • John Barnes - Analyst

  • All right.

  • And my follow-up question would be on the acquisition front you know obviously the last couple of years you guys have been pretty acquisitive, walk-in's and the like, what are you seeing right now?

  • I mean does the current economic backdrop give you pause there and would you just rather hunker down and integrate what you have and kind of complete the rebranding before getting back there?

  • Or does this kind of environment create unique buying opportunity, better valuations and would you still have an appetite for acquisitions even with the current backdrop?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Well I think we are going to continue to be aggressive over the long term in expanding our service capabilities and filling the gaps that our customers tell us that we have in some of our service offerings.

  • And we will be very opportunistic but we have a very sharp pencil in terms of payback and ROI on those investments and there is nothing that we have to do today.

  • We think we are very well-positioned and we have these networks as tight as we can get them from a cost and capability standpoint versus what we see as the current demand and we will continue to balance those things.

  • So it is just going to depend on how things proceed and what happens in the environment.

  • But we will remain aggressive and we will be opportunistic.

  • Operator

  • Art Hatfield, Morgan Keegan.

  • Art Hatfield - Analyst

  • Hey, Alan, historically you guys have always talked about keying off of industrial production growth with regards to your outlook.

  • That fell off in February.

  • Is that something that you are really keen on with regards to how you are speaking about 2009 at this preliminary point?

  • Mike Glenn - EVP Market Devlopment, Corp Comm

  • Art, this is Mike Glenn.

  • As Fred said we do expect GDP growth to be lower in calendar year 2008 than 2007, with the news on industrial production being negative in February just coming out the last couple of days.

  • I think it is a bit premature to determine what is the long-term impact of that.

  • Our volumes in the quarter were relatively stable although below where we would like to see them so we didn't see any immediate impact of that throughout the quarter and specifically in the month of February.

  • But it is premature to see what kind of long-term impact that would be.

  • We are planning for lower GDP growth in calendar 2008 than 2007.

  • Art Hatfield - Analyst

  • Can you give us at this point in time kind of where that falls out from your perspective?

  • Mike Glenn - EVP Market Devlopment, Corp Comm

  • GDP numbers?

  • Art Hatfield - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Mike Glenn - EVP Market Devlopment, Corp Comm

  • Well, I think it would be kind of a wild card to throw that out there.

  • It is going to be at least a couple or 3/10 of a point, 300 basis points less though I would say.

  • Operator

  • William Greene, Morgan Stanley.

  • William Greene - Analyst

  • Alan, I am wondering if you can tell us how much the China investment hurt Express margins in the quarter?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • I can tell you that they were a drag.

  • We are not going to start breaking out individual countries and individual services profitability but we still have a tremendous amount of long-term confidence in what we are doing in China.

  • And of course our overall, I was speaking about the domestic business in China of course we have a very lucrative business to and from China that we have had for quite some time.

  • So we are in great position overall in China but we are building a domestic express network and we are having a little bit slower of a revenue growth than we'd originally thought.

  • Again that is economic driven but we have a great service over there and it will be less of a drag going forward.

  • William Greene - Analyst

  • And Mike, you mentioned that you are not so confident on the economy here but you heard UPS's comments last week.

  • Can you compare your volumes here in March versus what they were suggesting that is down sort of last six weeks?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Well let me just say again our volumes coming out of December our peak season have been relatively stable; and from that perspective we are pleased with that.

  • Although again they are below where we would like to see them due to the overall weakness in the economy.

  • But they have been relatively stable on a month-to-month basis.

  • Mike Glenn - EVP Market Devlopment, Corp Comm

  • He is talking about Express; obviously we are continuing to grow at Ground.

  • And as I mentioned our home delivery service which is just outstanding is having terrific growth of 15% right now.

  • William Greene - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Just one last question on the multi-route versus single-route drivers, do you have a sense for your thinking as to when you will think about whether that should be applied outside of California or sort of all throughout the network?

  • Chris Richards - EVP, General Counsel, Secretary

  • This is Chris Richards.

  • We have been looking at options with respect to our independent contractor model and ways to improve it and to continue to provide outstanding service to our customers for years.

  • We will be continuing to do that.

  • We have been very pleased with the results of our California transition and have achieved overwhelming acceptance from the single-route contractors in their move to multi-route contractors, or in accepting positions with multi-route contractors.

  • Operator

  • David Ross, Stifel Nicolaus.

  • David Ross - Analyst

  • Good morning, everyone.

  • I wanted to ask about your FedEx Ground margins for a second.

  • From your 1998 to 2000 they were around 8% to 10% per year; then they got hurt in the recession of 2001.

  • But 2002 to 2007 they were 11% to 14% and I thought we were looking at a new trend but now they are back below 10%.

  • So with I guess the enhanced independent contractor incentives in place, do you expect I guess longer term for them to trend somewhere in between those two growth ranges?

  • Or where do you expect the Ground margins to be going forward?

  • Dave Rebholz - President, CEO FedEx Ground

  • This is Dave Rebholz.

  • If you look at the current year we certainly have made investments but there are a number of factors both nominal one-time costs associated with this ongoing transition.

  • But there is also the economic implications of productivity on the core numbers.

  • When you get into piece per stops and the economics associated with home delivery.

  • We have every confidence that with our continued growth over the next two to three year timeline horizon that our margins will improve as a function of productivity.

  • There are many beneficial offsets that come with growth.

  • We have a convergence of a slowing in our historical rate; while we are very proud of the 13% to 14% in home and in our SmartPost volumes as well.

  • The fact of the matter is that that continued growth rate will allow us to offset many of the cost factors that we are experiencing right now.

  • David Ross - Analyst

  • And then you mentioned SmartPost.

  • With the change in the postal rates announced recently and more importantly the way they compete on the package side, how does that impact if at all your SmartPost operations?

  • Dave Rebholz - President, CEO FedEx Ground

  • In two factors.

  • We think that there is both an economic upside but more importantly an opportunity to expand the growth of our account base.

  • Operator

  • Gary Chase, Lehman Brothers.

  • Gary Chase - Analyst

  • Good morning everybody.

  • Two questions on IP.

  • The first is just about the volume outlook there.

  • Obviously the numbers have stayed pretty strong in terms of volume.

  • You noted, I think it was Alan or Mike that noted domestic China wasn't performing as well as you at least initially thought it was.

  • Is there any sign that we should expect the IP volume growth rates to start to decline here?

  • Dave Bronczek - President, CEO FedEx Express

  • This is Dave Bronczek.

  • No, actually the volumes continue to be strong as you pointed out, 6% this quarter.

  • Overall revenue as Alan pointed out are up to 18.5% which I should point out is the highest growth rate IP has had since '05.

  • So we are optimistic.

  • Things on the international inter-continental front continue to do exceedingly well around every region of the world.

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • It is probably pretty logical the elasticity of a very high fuel surcharge is not as high with an international priority package as it is with a domestic express because the alternatives are significantly slower for high-value goods as opposed to the alternatives in the United States.

  • I think that is one.

  • And secondarily, the weak dollar has had a very stimulative impact on exports from the US which is part of what is saving the economy right now and also helping drive our results.

  • Gary Chase - Analyst

  • And actually Alan, that was the follow-up I wanted to ask.

  • Can you just give us a sense of the magnitude you noted part of the yield improvement in IP is tied to currency?

  • What is sort of an organic yield growth net of currency?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Well, currency was approximately half of the yield increase in IP and so that obviously had a pretty stimulative impact but again the US outbound volume is significantly stronger than the domestic Express volume for the reasons that I mentioned.

  • We expect that to continue at least in the next couple of quarters.

  • Operator

  • Jon Langenfeld, Robert W.

  • Baird.

  • Jon Langenfeld - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • Can you talk -- I mean if you look at the Ground margin contraction, is the majority of that related to the conversion and legal expenses and when should that start to taper off?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Well, this is Alan.

  • Let me just say that the answer to that question is no.

  • There were a lot of significant impacts.

  • I took the extra time to talk about the services chargebacks which had a bigger impact on Ground on a margin basis than they did at Express.

  • And so as we improve Kinko's profitability and better tightly manage our services expenses that drag will start to disappear and hopefully become a positive, in fact as we go out in the next 12 to 18 months.

  • Some of the one-time costs associated with what we are doing to enhance the model will go away and then the more permanent things that we are doing we will get paid back in the longer run with significantly improved productivity and we are very confident about that.

  • So also fuel had an impact on this quarter as well.

  • So it was just a lot of things and so the majority was not the contractor enhancements.

  • Jon Langenfeld - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks for the color.

  • And then the follow-up question, if I look at domestic Express maybe if you could just bring us back in history a little bit, in the early 2000 I guess fiscal '02, we saw mid-upper single-digit declines in volume.

  • And if I recall a lot of that was due to kind of the initial mode shift to Ground, but how much of that would be a realistic scenario if things got bad here?

  • Meaning if you look back at fiscal '02 how much of that do you think was just the initial mode shift versus the economy?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Well, it's difficult to say exactly because you don't have full visibility into customer decisions, whether mode shift is caused by higher prices on fuel and fuel surcharges or the value proposition itself.

  • Let me remind you that one of the things that we have been able to do is make tremendous investments in the Ground value proposition where now over 80% of those items are delivered in three days or less.

  • Just less than 10 years ago we called that an Express transaction.

  • So the portfolio that we built and the value proposition that we have built at FedEx Ground gives customers tremendous choice in determining what is in their best interest.

  • And having said that when you have fuel surcharges on Express as high as 20% clearly customers are going to rethink the best way for them to take advantages of the broad portfolio that we have.

  • We do expect as the fuel surcharges increase and get into the 20% range that more customers will rethink these decisions and either slow those down to afternoon, next afternoon delivery, two-day delivery or perhaps moving it into the Ground or LTL network.

  • But it is difficult to say exactly what percentage was driven by economic factors and what was driven by enhanced value proposition.

  • Operator

  • Ken Hoexter, Merrill Lynch.

  • Ken Hoexter - Analyst

  • Hi, just to follow up on that if I may, the inelasticity I guess we thought we would see it when fuel hit 50; then we thought we would see it when fuel hit 70.

  • Just wondering are you actually seeing customers now start to pull back?

  • And then to follow up on Jon's question do you think you see that upper single-digit volume decline even with the IP down as you noted to these levels?

  • Or do you think it takes a much slower economic impact to get to those upper single-digit declines?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Let me remind you the upper single-digit decline was Jon's number not our number.

  • Ken Hoexter - Analyst

  • -- that was in '01, '02?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • No, no I'm talking -- what you're saying, whether we get to that now or not.

  • Clearly -- I'm sorry would you repeat the question?

  • Ken Hoexter - Analyst

  • You know just to start off with on the fuel; we thought we would see some of this inelasticity when fuel hit $50 then $70.

  • Those were the big numbers at the time.

  • I am just wondering what causes you to see that large of a swing right now or are you seeing it because of fuel hitting $100?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Well, clearly there is more discussion in the market about the fuel surcharge.

  • Having said that one of the things that FedEx led was the implementation of a dynamic fuel surcharge for Express and Ground services which is now common in the markets where we compete.

  • So customers have full visibility in advance to what is going to happen to the fuel surcharge and that helps in that regard for them to plan accordingly.

  • Our job is to make sure that we assist customers in getting the traffic into the right network that is going to meet their service requirement.

  • So there is elasticity to higher fuel, there is no question about that; and we will feel the impact of that and have felt the impact of that on our domestic Express services and we will feel the impact of that going forward.

  • But the good news for FedEx is we have alternatives to move that into the Ground network or slower mode of Express transportation or into the LTL network.

  • Dave Rebholz - President, CEO FedEx Ground

  • Also historically if you go back to 2001 and 2002 that was a different kind of a shock and the Ground capabilities were nowhere near what they are today.

  • I mean we have sped up tens of thousands of lanes.

  • We have perfect information, much better custodial control, home delivery service, all those additional really fantastic alternatives for Express that were not there in 2001 and 2002.

  • So we are expecting to see a little bit more impact of this going forward if prices stay where they are and the economy stays where it is which is basically no growth.

  • Ken Hoexter - Analyst

  • So Alan, when you talk about '09 being relatively flat at this point based on and I know you said there is a huge swing factor based on fuel, can you tell us what is in that comment?

  • What is in that target as far as kind of whether it is a volume or a margin kind of impact on a year-over-year basis?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • What I am telling you is that we have in our previously announced and continually discussed financial objectives; we try to grow earnings per share at least 10% a year and try to target 10% to 15% range.

  • What I am saying is that is not possible with fuel at these prices and no economic growth; as good as we are going to be, as well as we are going to manage the company, we just aren't going to be able to do that.

  • Now if those things would change and I think they will maybe not in fiscal '09 but beyond, but we are extremely well-positioned.

  • I mean we are -- again we are running as lean as we have ever run with the highest productivity levels.

  • So we are in the middle of a plan right now and you know it is obviously the crystal ball for everybody is very cloudy here.

  • Fred Smith - Chairman, President, CEO

  • This is Fred Smith.

  • Let me mention one other thing here which is very important and that is at inventory levels now, the inventory stocking out there is at all-time low levels.

  • So people with the visibility they have of supply chains these days invented I might add by FedEx some years ago, are able to adjust to changing macroeconomic conditions.

  • So if you have some bite from these actions of the Fed and fuel prices go down and so forth, there is the good news scenario out there too, but the wild card as I said in my opening remarks is fuel.

  • I would also like to put some color on a couple of these comments here and I know most of the folks on the call are focused on what the next quarter is or the next six months or so forth, but we have been saying this for years.

  • The Express business in the United States, we have not looked at that as a growth business for over a decade.

  • 2000 you are talking about the meltdown of the dot com's.

  • You are talking about the real beginning of a lot of migration of the overnight envelope business and the more electronic modes.

  • So our capacity in FedEx Express, sorting capacity, vehicle capacity, aviation capacity even in the United States has been directed towards the movement of international traffic to and from the hubs, and then on into the international system.

  • Now that is a very good thing for us because most of the costs in Express are transaction driven.

  • They are not yield, you know or size driven.

  • So as those IP packages come through the formerly domestic capacity at a $50, $60, $70 per unit level, and displace a domestic unit which is migrated into our much faster Ground system, that is a very good thing for us.

  • And both Express and Ground, absent the fuel price would see benefits in terms of margin and profitability.

  • It is just that simple.

  • Also in the international business and I think I ended the last call we had on this, what has been going on for a long time and is going to continue for a long time, is as the Internet continues to hook up millions of people who can now sell and source their goods with a common language, low cost, medium of exchange, with systems like our trade tools which make it very easy to cross borders, the traditional movement of goods by air is evolving into more of a small shipment door to door paradigm rather than into a consolidation type mode.

  • And it is that long-term secular trend that continues to have IP growing even when you have got fuel prices of this level.

  • Now will that be 10% or 15% or 6%?

  • I don't know, but I can tell you that those trends are very powerful.

  • So I always say this, you have got to look at the Express network as a global system.

  • And we have tried to the extent that we can by putting this really outstanding Ground system in place to accommodate what the customers want, and to use that capacity for international.

  • And I don't know whether to this day that strategy has been as well understood as it should be.

  • Operator

  • Tom Wadewitz, JPMorgan.

  • Tom Wadewitz - Analyst

  • Yes, good morning.

  • Let's see, I wanted to ask you about the cost control you said obviously things are a little weak and the outlook is challenging so it sounded like you would ratchet up your focus on costs in maybe fourth quarter and into fiscal 09.

  • Can you give us any sense of the magnitude of the opportunities?

  • And then I guess within the current quarter you mentioned the incentive comp was down and I wonder if you could give any sense of the magnitude of that impact.

  • Was that $10 million, $50 million, just kind of some ballpark number so we can think about it?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • I don't think it does us any good to go into specific magnitudes on those things.

  • I don't think it adds a lot of value.

  • We have shock absorbers built in to our compensation plans.

  • This company is a very much pay for performance organization, and we do well when the company does well and we don't do so well when we are in times like this.

  • And so that shock absorber is working and we have reduced our annual incentive and long-term incentive accruals accordingly.

  • Having said that, the opportunities in a very big company like this to have immediate quick impact are fairly high.

  • We have a lot of smart people around here; they all have a lot of really great ideas and all of them have ROIs.

  • What we are going to have to do is on Perado basis pick the ones with the best ROIs and put the rest of them off until we can find a better time to do them, all of which I think will add long-term value to the company.

  • So we will have some tough decisions to make here but we are going to make them.

  • Tom Wadewitz - Analyst

  • So let me come at it a little bit of a different angle.

  • If you have volumes in Express down 2%, something like that, and let's say fuel prices are at a high level but stabilized, can Express margins be flat because you do some good things on cost to offset the volume weakness?

  • Or is there so much leverage to volumes that it is just tough to keep your margin flat with expense focus.

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • All I can tell you is we just had a flat quarter year-over-year in that exact environment you just said, so we are doing it.

  • Fred Smith - Chairman, President, CEO

  • I would point out again -- this is Fred Smith speaking -- what I said before.

  • Margins at Express even with flat to declining, "domestic express volume" can increase and will increase absent the fuel run up because we are trading the same expense base for a $60 door to door IP shipment, for a $15 or $20 domestic business.

  • So again I am not sure I am getting across to you; you just asked the question will margins go down because of domestic Express volumes going down?

  • And the point is as long as IP grows and the domestic volumes stay flat or decline a little bit, that is not a bad thing that is a good thing.

  • Because it means we don't have to increase our expenses and our margin goes up.

  • What is eating the margin up is obviously the cost of fuel.

  • So does that clarify it a little bit for you?

  • Operator

  • Edward Wolfe, Bear Stearns.

  • Michael Beer - Analyst

  • Good morning, guys.

  • Michael Beer in for Ed Wolfe.

  • A quick question on the Ground and home delivery contractor model.

  • Can you tell us the percentage of single work area drivers versus say multi-work area drivers and maybe how that looked a year ago or five years ago?

  • Chris Richards - EVP, General Counsel, Secretary

  • I can give you some sense that more than 50% of our routes are currently handled by multi-work area contractors.

  • That has been growing steadily over the last few years.

  • In California we have stated our goal and planned by May 31 to have 100% of the operations be with multi-work area contractors, so that has obviously contributed significantly to the growth this year.

  • Michael Beer - Analyst

  • Right.

  • But 50% of the routes; what percentage of the driver count?

  • Chris Richards - EVP, General Counsel, Secretary

  • It is more helpful if you think about this really in terms of the routes.

  • The productivity benefits from a multi-work approach are significant and it is easier to understand if you look at it from a route point of view than the drivers.

  • Chris Richards - EVP, General Counsel, Secretary

  • Okay, but no sense as to the average number of routes carried by your typical NWA?

  • Chris Richards - EVP, General Counsel, Secretary

  • We have multi-work area drivers who have very large operations and we have some that are just a few routes, so it varies widely.

  • Chris Richards - EVP, General Counsel, Secretary

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Donald Broughton, Avondale Partners.

  • Donald Broughton - Analyst

  • Well good morning everybody.

  • Once again we have had a quarterly conference call and Doug Duncan despite contributing 12% of the revenue hasn't had a question so it is his turn.

  • I was looking at the release; you got 3% negative volume and the stat book says 2.1%.

  • Negative volume obviously a pretty tough comp last year.

  • Can you give us some granularity, some color, whatever you want to call it on what was the growth pattern in regional versus national?

  • Doug Duncan - President, CEO FedEx Freight

  • Well, we are not going to break them out because we run these two networks together and they do share some resources.

  • But I can tell you this that all of the negative growth rates were in the month of December.

  • January and February were positive growth rates for both the regional network and the national network.

  • So we really think with all of the things that we have done we have got our legs under us now and have some good growth momentum going in both networks now.

  • Donald Broughton - Analyst

  • But Doug can you tell us at least that regional growth faster or shrink slower than national or was it the other way around?

  • Doug Duncan - President, CEO FedEx Freight

  • Obviously we have more upside at the national network.

  • We are a small player in a big long-haul sector and we have got a service product that isn't even close to being touched by any competitors in that marketplace.

  • So our growth rates are and should continue to be much faster in that national network for several years to come.

  • Donald Broughton - Analyst

  • So it is possible that that actually -- segment actually had positive year over year volume comps for the quarter?

  • Doug Duncan - President, CEO FedEx Freight

  • Well we are not going to break it out but I am telling you that we turned positive; all the negative was in December.

  • January and February was positive and February was the most positive of all.

  • So we are on a good growth curve here and we are seeing those same trends go into March.

  • Operator

  • David Campbell, Thompson, Davis Company.

  • David Campbell - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • I wondered if you could help explain why Federal Express and other companies are reporting increases in domestic air freight tonnage, while at the same time reporting like in your case a decrease in small package business?

  • Fred Smith - Chairman, President, CEO

  • David, Fred Smith here.

  • This is a -- I can't say that we have quantified this but as you know there have been for the domestic freight, air freight business there have been a number of secular developments.

  • First the domestic airline industry has moved almost completely away from any wide-body equipment in the domestic market except a few transcontinental routes.

  • So there really isn't any capacity in the underbellies to move things in the domestic air market in that mode anymore.

  • Number two, there have been some withdrawals of people who were in the door to door freight sector, air freight sector.

  • And then third, the FedEx both domestic door-to-door Express freight and particularly our inter-continental door to door Express freight are fantastic products.

  • They are able to deliver levels of service and reliability that customers have never seen.

  • And so for that market which isn't all that big a market we have a very superior value proposition and then when you put it across our entire portfolio with our FedEx Freight products, regional freight, national LTL and custom critical we are able to have a freight portfolio that for the people that need expedited freight we have got the answer for them.

  • So that is why it is growing.

  • David Campbell - Analyst

  • It is a very good trend; it's just surprising in such a supposedly weak economic environment, but I'm very pleased to see it.

  • In the fuel surcharge catch-up in fiscal '09 won't that assuming again we don't know, but if fuel prices were to level out, wouldn't that fuel surcharge catch up create earnings growth in '09?

  • Alan Graf - EVP, CFO

  • Well you have to look at each quarter and dissect it year-over-year and it is not only if it levels out which that is the one thing I can promise you it will not do in fiscal '09, which will be stable.

  • And therein lies the issue and why Fred said it was the wild card for us going forward.

  • Operator

  • William Greene, Morgan Stanley.

  • William Greene - Analyst

  • Yes, just one quick follow-up.

  • Mike, can you talk about the trends in B2B versus B2C?

  • My assumption is your B2C package trends look positive and your B2B probably down; but I don't know if that is in fact correct?

  • Mike Glenn - EVP Market Devlopment, Corp Comm

  • Well obviously in the quarter, December has a strong B2C period because of the holiday shipping season, but in our Ground business in particular we have seen strong B2C growth and it has been less distinguishable in the Express segment.

  • William Greene - Analyst

  • The difference between the two, you mean?

  • Mike Glenn - EVP Market Devlopment, Corp Comm

  • Correct.

  • Operator

  • Jason Seidl, Credit Suisse.

  • Jason Seidl - Analyst

  • Good morning gentlemen.

  • A question for Doug.

  • Doug, could you talk about the differences in pricing in the LTL product between the regional and the national product?

  • Doug Duncan - President, CEO FedEx Freight

  • Well clearly in that regional market this is a mature business and we are trying to protect our market share in slow economic times.

  • We have a premium service and a premium price value proposition that still 88% of those shipments are delivered next day or second day, so that is one value proposition and so the yields have been pretty stable there.

  • On the national side we have been pretty aggressive in trying to grow that business after getting past all the integration issues and that is a little more competitive than the regional market, but not nothing I would call irrational at this point.

  • Jason Seidl - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Next question looking at the international priority business, you know still strong and other comments would be that we anticipate this still to grow because the emerging markets.

  • But if the US does flow into sort of a full-fledged recessionary period, what could we see the international growth rate dip to even with the emerging markets growing.

  • Dave Bronczek - President, CEO FedEx Express

  • This is Dave Bronczek.

  • We continue to grow in every region around the world including our US international outbound.

  • We had excellent growth and foresee it to be the case going forward.

  • Latin America for example, Mexico into the United States, the transborder market, Canada as well.

  • Europe and Asia continue to grow.

  • So we foresee the future for international to be positive and growing and growing across the world.

  • Fred Smith - Chairman, President, CEO

  • This is Fred Smith.

  • Let me at the risk of being a broken record mention again that what is happening in the inter-continental market is the traditional air freight business because of the increasing ease of use and the reliability of the network, a lot of that market is devolving into door to door Express rather than into consolidation.

  • And in fact my guess is as the price of fuel goes up what it really makes shippers do when they examine their supply chain is to decide whether it needs to go door-to-door Express or it needs to go on the water.

  • And it is that big middle ground where people have been consolidating and holding small freight shipments which goes to David Campbell's point, it is not just packages it is light freight too, it is skidded light freight.

  • That is now going door to door through Express networks.

  • And that is why we think that the business has excellent long-term prospects.

  • Now as the macro economic issues flop around clearly it affects that.

  • But there are long-term secular trends going on in this business that we have been following for over 15 years now.

  • Operator

  • And having no further questions I would like to turn the conference over to Mickey Foster for any additional or closing comments.

  • Mickey Foster - IR Director

  • Thank you very much for your participation on our third-quarter earnings conference call.

  • Please feel free to call anyone on the IR team if you have any additional questions.

  • Thanks again.

  • Goodbye.

  • Operator

  • This does conclude today's conference.

  • Thank you for your participation.

  • You may now disconnect.