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Operator
Greetings, and welcome to the Essex Property Trust, Inc. third-quarter 2013 earnings conference call.
(Operator Instructions)
As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
Statements made on this conference call regarding expected operating results and other future events, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Forward-looking statements are made based on current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs, as well as information available to the Company at this time. A number of factors could cause actual results to deliver materially from those anticipated. Further information about these risks can be found in the Company's filings with the SEC.
It is now my pleasure to introduce your host Mr. Michael Schall, President and Chief Executive Officer for Essex Property Trust. Thank you, Mr. Schall. You may now begin.
- President & CEO
Thank you, and welcome, everyone, to our third quarter earnings call. We wish you all a safe and pleasant Halloween. As usual, Erik Alexander and Mike Dance will follow me with comments on operations and finance, respectively. John Eudy and John Burkhart are available for Q&A.
I'll cover three topics on the call. First, brief comments on our Q3 results. Second, notable items related to development. And third, preliminary market expectations for 2014.
So on to the first topic, Q3 results. We are very pleased to announce another strong quarter, for which we reported core FFO of $1.91 per share. That result was $0.02 ahead of the mid point of the guidance range that was provided in connection with our second quarter call. Growth in Northern California and Seattle and improvement in Southern California were obvious contributors to the results. Erik will comment further about these operating trends.
On to the second topic, notes on development. We are also pleased with the results at our lease up communities. Since the June opening of our Epic community in North San Jose, we have leased 265 of the 280 apartments in phase I, an average pace of 66 apartments per month, roughly double our plan.
In August, Connolly Station, which is located adjacent to the West Dublin Bart Station, was available for initial occupancy. We have now leased 166 apartment homes, or a pace of 83 apartments per month, roughly twice as fast as planned.
We formed a new co-investment entity and started construction at our Village community in Downtown Walnut Creek. The Village includes 49 luxury condo mapped apartments averaging over 1,600 square feet, and 35,000 square feet of retail space in the downtown retail core of Walnut Creek. This property is adjacent to the Broadway Plaza Mall, which is the premiere shopping destination in the East Bay.
At our recently completed Expo community in Seattle, we received lead gold certification. And were selected as the national finalist for Best Green Building by the National Home Builders Association in its Pillars of the Industry awards.
In contrast to these recent results, our development strategy causes us to be less aggressive as we progress through the economic cycle. As a result, we continued to lower our development exposure. As a target, which is subject to change, we believe that our pro rata share of annual development deliveries will range from $150 million to $250 million going forward. That is beyond the pipeline that's shown in the supplement.
Then on to my third topic, which is market outlook for 2014. Page F-16 of the supplement provides an overview of the key housing supply demand assumptions supporting our market rent growth expectations for 2014. This is not necessarily the rent growth estimated for the Essex portfolio, but rather represents the primary economic input into our 2014 budgeting process.
I have a few comments related to the information on page F-16 as follows. Number one, Seattle multi-family supply is expected to be up about 20% from 2013 and should peak in 2014. Even considering the expected strong job growth, we expect market rent growth to slow to about 5.4% in 2014. Given greater concentration of supply in the downtown, we believe that the east side will produce the best rent growth.
The second comment. We expect the continued limited supply of for sale housing in the coastal California markets, which means that overall housing supply, that is both apartments and for sale, will average about 0.7% of housing stock in Northern California, and about 0.5% in Southern California. Thus, we believe that aggregate housing demand will continue to exceed supply in coastal California.
And third comment. We expect Southern California to continue its slow improvement, slightly outperforming the nation in terms of job growth, but with limited supply. Our average market rent growth of 4.7% in Southern California compares to the actual revenue growth in the same property portfolio for the nine months ended September 30th of 4.2%.
Thank you for joining us. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Erik Alexander.
- SVP of Operations
Thank you, Mike.
Essex enjoyed another solid quarter in operations as the Bay Area and Seattle continued to record strong economic growth, which resulted in healthy demand throughout the period. Leasing activity met or exceeded expectations in all of our markets, highlighted by strong renewal activity, low turnover, and solid scheduled rent growth.
For the quarter, renewal rates grew 5.8% over expiring rate, and continued that trend into October. With lower volume, we expect the November and December renewal rate to be similar, given the offers extended to residents. Turnover for the quarter and through October continued to be in line with expectations, and we project the annual rate of turn to be just over 50%.
We have seen limited impact from move outs due to home purchase, as this metric fell to 10% of all move outs during the quarter. These factors along with economic rent growth led to a sequential gain in scheduled rent of 2.4% for the quarter. This is the highest sequential growth since 2008.
We are also poised for a good fourth quarter, as occupancy stands at 96.3% with only 5.4% net availability. However, we do not expect to reach the highs that were achieved last year, due to a planned increase in interior renovation activity.
Now I'll share some highlights for each region, beginning with Seattle. As more new buildings come to market in the region, everyone has a watchful eye on supply. Many of these deliveries are in the downtown sub-market, and we have witnessed a decline in competitor absorption rates.
Concessions also increased downtown during the quarter, consistent with rapid lease up strategies. We expect this trend to continue into the first part of 2014 when demand traditionally rebounds. There have been expected seasonal declines in economic rent outside of the CBD, but no additional pressure on pricing due to concessions on the east side, north or south end, where 80% of our portfolio is located. We still expect these sub-markets to perform better than the downtown next year.
Employment growth in the region improved to 2.8% in the quarter, well above the national average. And office absorption remained strong, with 630,000 square feet leased during the quarter, and 2.6% of total stock has been leased year-to-date.
In Northern California, it continues to lead the way for Essex with the highest growth in rental rates and revenue for the portfolio. In fact, new lease transactions in the division have averaged more than $2,000 every month since May, and average renewal increases reached 8% during September. August year-over-year job growth was over 2% in the region, and once again was led by the San Jose sub-market, which posted 3.1% growth.
Office leasing and development continued to be brisk in all parts of the Bay Area, which creates jobs now and allows for continued employment expansion in the future. One of the more significant projects in the region, the $2 billion Transbay terminal, continued on schedule and remains a catalyst for development in the vicinity, with approximately 3 million square feet of office space under construction, including the 1.3 million square foot Transbay Tower.
So in Seattle and San Jose [their big brothers], it is hard to impress, but Southern California continued to enjoy steady growth. Market rates inched up during the period, and we made modest gains in occupancy. However, renewal activity remained healthy and has been above 4% since May.
Overall job growth in Los Angeles improved to 1.4% during August. In Orange County, job growth remains above 2%. It is also worth noting that unemployment in Orange County has fallen to 6.2%.
San Diego and Ventura remained steady, and we have not experienced any negative impacts due to military activity. In fact, our exposure to military residents in San Diego remains below 13%.
Commercial development and leasing activity remained relatively low throughout the region. But leasing on the west side of Los Angeles remains very strong and industrial vacancy in Orange County is the lowest level in the country with less than 5% of space available for lease. Economic and rental conditions remain strong, and we are in good shape to deliver year-end results consistent with our guidance.
Thank you for your time, and I will now turn the call over to Mike Dance.
- EVP and CFO
Thanks, Erik. Today, I will provide color on the quarterly results, the 2013 guidance, and our balance sheet position.
Our same property operating results continue to beat our expectations, and we have raised the mid point of our guidance for revenues and net operating income by 10 basis points to 6.1% and 7.3%, respectively. During the quarter, consolidated net operating income results were offset by the 1.2 million in vacancy, which occurred during the renovation of 623 apartment homes during the quarter. And from a fire that unfavorably impacted results by over $300,000. In addition, our share of the lease-up dilution during the third quarter from the Connolly and Epic development joint ventures was approximately $600,000.
Moving to the change in guidance related to promote income. We have only two properties comprising 165 apartment units that are unsold from the Fund II portfolio. To date, we have returned all of the limited partners' original capital, and have distributed most of their preferred returns.
Fund II promote income will be recognized in 2014 with the disposition of the two remaining assets. The decision to postpone the dispositions was to capture some of the 7% to 9% loss to lease onto a Rentroll, and to reduce the prepayment penalties on the mortgages securing these assets. We will provide an update on the timing and estimates of the promote income after we begin the marketing process next year.
I will conclude with comments on our financial position. As of September 30th, we have over $600 million in capacity on our own secured lines of credit, marketable securities and cash equivalents exceed $140 million. And in November we will receive $55 million from the repayment of loans we made to our Wesco three joint venture.
Our debt maturities through the end of 2015 are only $133 million, and as noted on F-9, our percentage share of development commitments are less than $300 million. At our Investor Day next month, we will share our three-year plan for deploying our resources to achieve sector leading shareholder returns.
That ends my formal remarks, and I will now return the call back to the operator for questions.
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Nick Joseph with Citi.
- Analyst
Great, thanks. Can you talk more about what you're seeing in Southern California, and when you could expect to see the same store growth actually cross over and exceed Northern California and Seattle?
- President & CEO
Sure, this is Mike. That is a good question, and I think has perplexed us for many years. We originally expected Southern California to recover more similarly to the North, and that, of course, hasn't happened for a variety of reasons.
Number one, just the composition of the labor markets in Southern California is different. Southern California is much more like the nation when you look at the components. It doesn't have the tech influence that we have in the North. And so it's had a much more muted recovery.
I think also another factor, especially in San Diego, if you look at job growth over the last year has been a little disappointing. I think that's somewhat sequester related, and in some of the other areas. So I would say that it will be at least 2015 or 2016 before the cross over point is achieved.
- Analyst
All right, thanks. And then you mentioned that you're cutting back on development strategy and becoming less aggressive at this point in the cycle. When you're actually pencilling development deals today, what kind of spread do you need to see between expected initial yield and transaction cap rates?
- President & CEO
We measure it in a number of different ways. Essentially, we want to see about a 20% premium to the development cap rate measured with rents in place today relative to an acquisition type cap at our the similar quality acquisition cap rate. If we are able to minimize the development risk, which means to us trying to time the land close and start of construction within a very short period of time, as opposed to holding land banking effectively for longer periods of time. So for the land bank type situations, we'd want a higher yield to compensate us for the additional risk.
- Analyst
And so for the new starts this quarter, what initial yields are you targeting?
- President & CEO
I think everything that we're targeting, everything that we're a looking at is -- and John Eudy is here, he may want to add to this, is somewhere in the 5% to 5.25% cap rate range again measured on rent complicity. We would think that that would stabilize somewhere in the 6% to 6.25% range.
Having said that, the other thing that we're all looking at is the permit data, and there's a lot of permits being pulled. It's our belief that they're not all going to immediately go into the construction pipeline, because a lot of them failed to meet the criteria that the investors require and the lenders require.
And so, I think that it's going to be -- even though you're seeing quite a few permits being pulled, I think that they're going to be delivered over several years. I don't think that they're all going to get started. Which is possibly one moderating factor as it relates to Seattle, because it's got a lot of for sale and apartment permits being pulled, and a pretty robust development pipeline through 2014.
- Analyst
Great, thanks.
Operator
David Toti with Cantor Fitzgerald.
- Analyst
Hey, good morning, guys.
- President & CEO
Good morning, David.
- Analyst
The first question I have has to do with your sort of market forecast that you provide in the back of the supplemental. And I'm just wondering -- because I know you guys produced this from some third-party sources. Is there a specific relationship in your mind between supply, forecasts, and then the rent forecasts? In other words, if we see multi-family supply go up by 1% in your markets and jobs go up by 0.5% from where they are, do you calculate a specific rent impact, or is that sort of separate from those functions in some way?
- President & CEO
No, we absolutely do. Again, this is the input into our budgeting process and we try to estimate really forward three to five years what we expect rent growth to be based on these variety of inputs.
And it really starts with the US economic assumptions of GDP growth 2.8% for 2014 is what we're assuming, and job growth at 1.8%. And we've looked at historical trends. If the US is growing at 1.8%, what will typically happen? What do we expect to happen within each of these MSAs with respect to job growth?
And then internally, we take job growth, try to predict what that means for household formations. Subtract out effectively the for sale component, because we know that for sale is all going to essentially all be occupied. And whatever is left over is the rental demand, and we compare that against the rental supply and that's how we do it.
And we have a -- it's more sophisticated than that, and we're not going to share our methodology as it relates to the rent forecast, but absolutely that's what we try to do. And that's why we present this. We had a discussion about whether we should drop it this quarter or this year given the action metrics and others do a pretty good job at this stuff. We decided to leave it in because it is effectively trying to define the scenario that we think is going to happen for 2014.
Because let's say if we're completely wrong, let's say job growth goes from or the US goes from 1.8% to minus 5%, then we will miss these numbers, I can assure you, but the scenario changed. So we're trying to create a consistent scenario, try to communicate what that is to the investment community. And then if we hit these numbers as to the US assumptions, we would expect to be pretty darn close as it relates to the market forecast.
- Analyst
Well I hope you keep it in, because it's quite useful for us. And without getting too specific on formulas, relative to the market forecast, what's the most sensitive of variables? Is it supply or employment or the GDP underpinning it?
- President & CEO
Well, as it relates to the US economic assumptions, it's all very sensitive. That whole thing rolls together. If the US does much better, I would expect it to essentially all -- a rising tide lifts on both, in effect, and I would expect that to happen. The same is true on the downside.
So again, it would be almost impossible for apartments, and this is not just us this is everyone, for apartments to do well in a rotten economy. You've all seen that a bunch of times. So we're trying to demonstrate the relativity of how these numbers relate to one another.
What we're ultimately looking for are inflection points of rents in each direction, and we're trying to predict -- we know that pricing power increases as market occupancy increases. So, if it's 95%, you have X amount of pricing power. At 96%, 97% you build that. And then it has a pretty significant affect on rent.
So using historical relationships, using our experience in these marketplaces, we're trying to understand those variables and then predict what's going to happen to this inflection point as it relates certainly to Southern California. And try to predict when that's going to happen, and invest accordingly.
- Analyst
Okay, thanks. And then just one last detail question. And forgive me if I missed it earlier.
Turnover takedown, which is sort of counterintuitive compared to some other reports we've seen from the space, and in particular Seattle was down quite a bit. Is that really a function of the widening affordability gap to housing? Is it perhaps that rent increases were more modest than they could have been? What's your sense for that turnover rate change?
- SVP of Operations
Yes, this is Erik. They're essentially flat. And again, I think we attribute it to a couple of things that you mentioned.
One is the location for composition of the portfolio. But also, the renewal strategy. As we've talked about before, and Mike has advocated for, smart profits, we restrain ourselves when it comes to sending out the increases and voluntarily cap those at 10%. And I think that's appreciated by our customers, and we see a good conversion rate.
- Analyst
Okay. Thanks for the detail today.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Rob Stevenson with Macquarie.
- Analyst
Good morning, afternoon. Mike, in lowering the development exposure going forward, is to due to lack of opportunity?
Falling returns on the stuff that you're seeing? Higher construction costs? Some sort of view of increasing risk? Can you help handicap the components there that are driving a bit of a pullback?
- President & CEO
Sure, of course. All of the above would be the answer. Deals, I think, are having trouble hitting the market acceptance point as it relates to cap rate, that's partially because construction costs have increased somewhere around 10% in the last year.
Rents in Northern California, for example, are now 45% plus or minus higher than the low in the great recession. And so you've had a huge amount of rent growth already that have been booked. It would be, I think, erroneous to assume you're going so see that from this point forward over the next several years. So the return element is part of it, and part of it is cost to capital, as well.
So I think every component has worked against us as it relates to the development side. And it's just made deals more difficult to pencil. And again, John's here.
And if John, you can talk about all the number of deals you look at, which John is looking at a ton of stuff. He was -- it wasn't that long ago John was talking about triage, setting up a triage process for deals because there was so many coming in the door. But not very many of them hit our thresholds.
And so I think it's partially the market, and partially our view of the opportunity, and partially what's happened with the stock. Which, essentially we're at the same price now that we were at 18 months ago, yet, our FFO, core FFO per share was 20% growth last year and pretty healthy this year.
So it's really all of those factors. We're looking for the spread between what we're buying or building and what is embedded in the stock. And we got to see a positive impact as a result of that as our core objective. And we've become more aggressive, and we see that being very exciting and less aggressive when we see it being less exciting.
John, do you want to comment about the deal flow out there? I know you're looking at a lot of stuff.
- EVP Development
There continue to be a number of opportunities. But we've gone to the phase in the cycle where it goes from the wholesale side to the retail side, and it's much harder to justify, I think, given the risks that development does bring to the table.
That said, there are opportunistic deals that will pop in once in a while. But if you were to take today's land price with the increased cost of construction relative to future rent growth, it's more difficult for us to justify it. We're now probably predicting that we have our portfolio exposure that we are at now a year from now, if you were to make an educated guess.
As far as the pipeline, we have currently the 11 deals that we have under construction, most of those were formulated and decided on in 2010 and 2011. And that's basically the answer. And I can say that the delivery execution on the cap rates of everything that will be stabilized here in the next 12 months is in the 6% to 6.5% range. So, hopefully, that answers your question.
- Analyst
Okay. Given those comments, what's the redevelopment opportunity left in the portfolio today in terms of dollars that you guys figure that you want to spend over the next couple of years? And do you accelerate some of that to replace some of the external growth from development?
- EVP Development
I'll have John Burkhart answer that. But to create a little context, you may all recall that we didn't do very much redevelopment prior to the great recession, and then during the great recession we pretty much ceased that activity all together. Which means that we've got a pretty significant opportunity, which I'll have Mr. Burkhart talk about. John?
- EVP Asset Management
Yes, absolutely, this is John. We'll go into it in a little more depth in the Investor Day. But as you can see, we've increased our unit turns dramatically.
We're up over 75% year-over-year, and we will increase them more into 2014. We're also increasing the number of larger full renovation or revitalizations that we're working on. The opportunity is pretty substantial across the portfolio, and we'll probably be doing somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,200 unit turns next year up from maybe 1,200 a year ago. And we'll continue at that level for many years across the portfolio.
- Analyst
And what does that represent? What is 2,200 units roughly ballpark on a dollar value of incremental capital out the door?
- EVP Asset Management
The average unit turns, what we're doing is somewhere around $22,000 a unit. We're doing it a little different than most of our peers.
Most of our peers do a fluff and bluff with appliances and carpets. We tend to do a more full unit turn, where we're scraping the ceilings, doing the counters hard counters, new cabinets, opening up walls, et cetera. So we're in there around $22,000 a unit.
- Analyst
Okay. Mike Dance, core versus NAREIT FFO in the fourth quarter, is there anything that you guys have already identified that's going to cause a gap there?
- EVP and CFO
All right. NAREIT meaning the first call contested?
- Analyst
Yes, the reported. The difference between core and reported. Is there anything that's already impacted or is going to impact that you guys know about that's driving a gap there?
- EVP and CFO
No.
- Analyst
Okay.
- EVP and CFO
Just acquisition cost is the only recurring difference.
- Analyst
Okay. And then, lastly, Mike, given your comments about capital, et cetera, any tolerance or desire at this point for a Fund III?
- President & CEO
It is something that we are considering and working on. And we haven't made a final decision at this point in time. Up to this point, we've chosen to go into smaller commitments of equity capital with a couple of specific partners.
And we like that format because we can take a chunk of money at $50 million, $100 million in equity and we can dedicate the next couple of deals to that equity. And then make another decision about whether we're better off growing on balance sheet or in the fund format. Having said that, Fund III has some advantages as well, and we are considering it and there's a reasonable possibility that that will come to fruition.
- Analyst
Okay. Thanks, guys.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Ryan Bennett with Zelman & Associates.
- Analyst
Good morning. Just --
- President & CEO
Hi, Ryan.
- Analyst
Good morning, guys. I guess my question was just related to if development, you're becoming a little bit less aggressive on, just given the headwinds there. Do you foresee more opportunities like the Slater 116 or the preferred investment that you made during the quarter, as some of these developers look to exit deals? And is that a more attractive return opportunity for you?
- President & CEO
That's a good question. And we're looking at everything. We have seen opportunities to buy new buildings that were produced by merchant builders throughout our marketplace. And it all depends on cap rate and cost to capital and risk associated with the development deal.
And so we continue to do both. We are working on preferred equity deals that have a development component. We completed one last quarter, and it provides a very interesting financing solution for a developer that has a permitted deal ready to go that works for us and works for them.
So, yes, we're -- I think we cover the gamut as it relates to how we approach the development process. We will do presales. We will do direct development. We will do preferred equity transactions on apartments. But only those that we want to own at the end of the day.
- Analyst
Got it. And I know it would differ developer by developer. But any sense on generally what kind of bogey they're looking for in terms of a profit margin from their development yield to what they would sell it at?
- President & CEO
Yes, and it runs the gamut. We have a deal, the Avery in the Valley Village district of LA, that was they wanted a takeout. And so that was priced at a little bit higher cap rate, because we were -- we went through effectively the development or the construction process with them.
Slater was a situation, we bought it effectively empty and are going through the lease up ourselves. Some preferred equity transactions that are will close typically around the time that we have everything lined up and ready to go. And they're all priced a little bit differently.
In our view, we don't look at the development world as, hey, this is our cap rate threshold. It's really a cap rate or really a spread over an acquisition cap rate and risk discussion. What risks are we taking on?
And then how are we going to price that risk appropriately in the portfolio? So I can't tell you that there's one or two formats that we're using. It really gets into a negotiation where we're trying to come to a thoughtful approach to risk and reward.
- Analyst
Understood. I appreciate the color. And the last question are from me, just specifically in terms of your Epic project.
Is it your sense that other lease ups in that Northern San Jose, some markets that are going on right now have been as successful? Or was it primarily something specific to Epic in terms of the location within the sum market or the price points?
- SVP of Operations
Yes, this is Erik. All of the competitors have reported successful lease up activity.
So again, I think this is a function of the 3% plus job growth, a quality location, accessibility to jobs. And all of the competitors have very nice products with amenity packages. So again, we're very pleased that the overall sub-market is strong and we continue to see it going that way.
- Analyst
Great. Thanks, guys.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Jeffrey Peel with Goldman Sachs.
- Analyst
Hi. Good morning.
- President & CEO
Good morning.
- Analyst
I was just wondering if to get a sense on how much of your portfolio could potentially be converted to condos?
- EVP Asset Management
Yes, this is John Burkhart speaking. We've got -- I kind of break it up into Pacific Northwest and California, because California is a little bit different. It's somewhere between impossible and very, very, very hard to actually take an apartment property that was built apartments without legal condo rights to convert it.
And so the value of that conversion is pretty significant and the -- or the value of going condo is pretty significant. Having a map on it, and it's just not very easy to do. So we have probably in the neighborhood of 6,000 units in California that have condo maps on them. They have the legal right to sell as condos.
In the Pacific Northwest, it's not that way. It's more like the rest of the US, where the opportunity -- if the property is well located and fits the economic interest, you could convert it into condos. So that impacts the whole portfolio up there. But the value is much greater in California for the 6,000 units.
- President & CEO
And I believe John is going to some spend time at the Investor Day talking about that subject.
- EVP Asset Management
Yes, absolutely.
- Analyst
Okay, thanks. And then also I believe in the beginning of the call that you mentioned that the Village was condo mapped in your development projects. Are there any other development projects in California that are condo mapped?
- President & CEO
In our development pipeline?
- Analyst
Yes.
- President & CEO
Basically, all of them except -- all of them. Excuse me, I thought I had one expectation. We've got maps on everyone.
The Hudson and Dylan have a map, but they're going to be restricted because of an affordability requirement for several years. So I would exclude them for that reason.
- EVP Asset Management
Having a map is one of the pieces of the development equation.
- President & CEO
We pretty much map everything we do.
- EVP Asset Management
Yes, exactly.
- Analyst
Okay. Thank you for the color.
- President & CEO
Yes, it's an important consideration in the development process. So, yes.
- Analyst
Okay. Thanks.
Operator
Gina Galan with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
- Analyst
Thank you. Good morning. Can you comment on the transaction market and if you've noticed in change in the third quarter?
- President & CEO
The transaction market is evolving. I think that in Q3 you saw interest rates spike and stock prices certainly the REITs were affected.
But I still believe, as I said on the last call, that the institutional bid was pretty significant. You may not have had as many institutions participating in the acquisition program. And they were pretty focused on eight locations, eight properties, let's say. But you had enough of them that I think cap rates were relatively unaffected.
Where you saw a little bit of a increase in cap rates was as you got away from the A product in A location, where you were dealing with a more of a entrepreneurial buyer. And you had the situation where Fannie and Freddie were -- that we had interest rates increases we also had margin increases on Fannie/Freddie debt. So I think that those forces have moderated as we have gone through September and October, and are less so.
Although, there is just a little bit of a uncertainty about what's happening because there haven't been that many transactions. And so we don't really know exactly what's happening. We know that we are in our own activities, we've had to fight harder for deals just because cost to capital has become a much bigger issue of late than as it has been over the last three or so years.
So, we've had to try to pick our spots and find good opportunities where we can. But as a general statement, it's much more difficult than it has been in prior years. And I think that probably continues unless interest rates continue to go down, which we don't expect, and/or the stock price rallies, which we don't really expect either. So, hopefully that answers your question.
- Analyst
That's very helpful. And then maybe specifically on the last two assets in Fund II, did you market those and feel that potential buyers weren't giving credit for the loss to lease? Or was that just something internally you decided to wait before putting them on the market?
- EVP Asset Management
Yes, this is John speaking. We had those assets on the market, and during the turbulence of the interest rate move, and the sellers did or the buyers did what one would expect, try to come back for a price hit and we didn't that that was justified. So we pulled them off the market to take advantage of the continued strength of the market, and decided we'd re-market them into 2014.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Alexander Goldfarb with Sandler O'Neill.
- Analyst
Yes. Hi. Good morning out there.
- President & CEO
Hey, Alex.
- Analyst
Hey, how are you?
- President & CEO
Good.
- Analyst
Just some quick questions here. First, let me start with Mr. Dance. Just on expenses, year-to-date they're up 4.3%, which is really driven by taxes being up 6.8%.
On the last call, you guys spoke about how even with Prop 13, when property values decline you get to move those taxes down. But as property values recover, then the taxes get brought back to trend. So given year-to-date the taxes for you guys are up 6.8%, do you feel that you're back to trend?
And while you're not providing 2014 guidance, should we think about now that we're this much closer to next year, should we think about sort of a similar increase? Or are just basically the taxes back to trend, in which case that should moderate?
- EVP and CFO
In Seattle we are actually getting higher assessed values. Year-over-year they're coming in kind of mid teens again. So we're still waiting to hear what the levy rates are going to be in Seattle. But we are seeing continued property tax pressure in Seattle.
We do have some properties in California that are still below their Prop 13 values. So we are expecting some increases.
So, yes, I think expense -- we're expecting expenses of about 3.5% this year. We're still working on the budget. I hope we can bring it in under that. But, we are still working on that, so it's a little bit early to tell. We'll have that ready for you at the Investor Day.
- Analyst
Okay. But Mike, as far as California goes, is it a very few assets that are still below Prop 13?
- EVP and CFO
Yes. California will probably be closer to the 2%.
- Analyst
Okay, okay. The next question, and George isn't the on the phone, so I guess, Mike, you'll have to take it.
You guys have done the stock buyback thing before. Although you guys seem to historically when you've done it, it's more targeted meaning that you'll buy the stock one quarter and then a few quarters later you may dribble back out with the ATM depending on how the stock has performed. Right now, you're one of the few REITs in general that's still trading above NAV, which is kudos to you guys.
But just a question. When you guys historically look back and evaluate where you have bought back stock, do you feel and does George feel that it's been a good use of capital versus your other opportunities? Whether it's development, acquisitions, MEZ or preferred equity investments?
- President & CEO
Every scenario is a little bit different. As a general rule, we felt that given the weakness in the stock through the Summer and into the Fall, that we wanted to essentially reset the share buyback. So we took it to the Board in September. Obviously, I'm not going to talk about what prices we talked about. But we want to have that ability out there.
And I think that everyone from the Board, from the Chairman of the Board, and George on down, believe in the same concept. Which is we have a stock that is representative of fractional interest in 160 some-odd properties, and we can invest in a number of different ways, and we're looking for a net spread. And where we see that, whether it's running the machine in forward or reverse, it doesn't really much matter to us.
Although, as share buybacks get into leveraging issues because double leverage if you're using your line and/or some other balance sheet considerations. So I don't want to talk specifically about our exact criteria. But we absolutely believe that there's a price at which the best opportunity would be buy the stock back.
- Analyst
Okay. And then just finally, you guys extended one of your preferred investments, but reduced the rate from 13% to 9%. Just sort of curious, was there an opportunity to get this property? Or you just figured that you had excess capital and therefore extending it an extra year you still were able to pick up a pretty healthy spread to your cost of capital?
- President & CEO
It was more related to when it was originally originated, the markets were different for that type of investment. And the market was highly a liquid. This was -- I don't remember exactly when it was, Mike, do you remember? Was it 2009, 2010? Somewhere in that time frame.
And essentially, the transaction had the ability to refinance us out. And so I look at it more like a restructure. We look at the market in place today, the asset hasn't appreciated significantly in value. So we're in a different part of the capital stack and the market for that type of investment has compressed relative to what it was when the original deal was originated. So essentially, we were going to lose the deal and we decided that we were better off essentially restructuring the deal as opposed to letting it pay off.
- Analyst
Okay. Makes sense. Listen, thank you.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Nick Yulico with UBS.
- Analyst
Thanks. Going back to the renewal rate growth that you mentioned, I think it was 5.8% this quarter, and that was higher than what you were getting earlier this year when it was closer to 5%. How should we think you about your ability to push renewal notices even higher going forward since -- and you're not facing increased turnover. You've been capping rent increases at 10%, as you mentioned earlier. It seems like that -- the ability to push renewal higher going forward could be a possibility.
- SVP of Operations
Yes, this is Erik. I think there are select opportunities maybe to push a little bit further. Certainly not at this point, in the year. As I said, our expectations are coming to be in that 5.5% to 5.8% for the next three months.
We do expect economic rent growth. We expect the loss to lease to grow. So there will be opportunities in some of these sub-markets to move that up a little bit.
We are cautious. We're delivering new supply. The last thing we want to do is get people thinking about moving down the street and taking advantage of somebody's month or six-week free offer. So we look at these case by case, and handle the strategy accordingly.
- Analyst
And could we get the new lease rate growth for the quarter?
- SVP of Operations
Yes, you can. Let me get back to you in a second there.
- Analyst
And then I guess just the one last question is, at what point do you -- do ever revisit that policy of capping rate increases at 10%? Or are you at the point now where you're getting more notices out that are closer to 10% than you have in the past year?
- SVP of Operations
Yes. I think we're constantly monitoring it. But again, given people's individual agendas and their move out and our opportunity to mark markets, in many cases, we still feel like we're being responsible. And getting the results overall that we would like to see and leave opportunity on the table. So right now we're satisfied with the policy.
- Analyst
Thanks.
Operator
Haendel St. Juste with Morgan Stanley.
- Analyst
Good morning out there.
- President & CEO
Haendel, how are you?
- Analyst
Hey, great, Mike.
- President & CEO
Good.
- Analyst
So curious on, I guess, on the asset you acquired in Seattle, (technical difficulty). Was there an operational issue behind the developer's decision to sell? And is there a greater opportunity with that specific developer?
- President & CEO
There are some other opportunities with that developer. And we have certainly met with them and told them that we would love to have some kind of relationship with them, so it's not just a single one-off deal. Having said that, those concepts are difficult because every deal is different and everything changes and there's no assurance of where we are going to necessarily be interested in the next deal nor that we're going to be the high bidder.
So, as a REIT, remember our cost to capital is the key consideration. And so if our cost to capital is out of whack, we could get outbid by someone else fairly easily, and we accept that and we acknowledge that as being just something that happens.
As to whether there was some unique condition that caused us to get this deal, I don't think so. I think it was, we would rather go through the lease up ourselves as a general statement because then we can control the quality of the people that we bring in. We can control their credit statistics and we can make sure that it's populated with the right people for the long-term benefit of the Company.
So as a general statement, we have a fairly strong preference to do our own lease up. But beyond that, I don't think there was anything unique about this situation.
- Analyst
Got you. Can you help us understand how you underwrote that acquisition, both in terms of in place and stabilized NOI, and what type of say IRR are you expecting there?
- President & CEO
I don't have those numbers in front of me. We will typically capitalize the expense of a lease up as a deal cost. So we're going to look at the stabilized yield on the deal, and so again, assuming the lease up cost is a capitalized addition to the purchase price, and we will look at the economics at stabilization. And then we will want to be paid for something, I don't remember exactly how much for doing the lease up, since that's probably the riskiest component of one of these transactions.
So, that's how we approach it. And again, we're risk reward driven and we actually like adding value if we can get a little bit higher cap rate. And we add some value and some of our staffing capabilities to a transaction.
We think that's a good thing. We will generally like to do that, and I think it's a win-win. We get a better tenant base as a result of doing the lease up, and the developer is not faced with doing something that they may not be incredibly good at.
- Analyst
Okay. So as far as the underwritten or the yield that you were expecting, any range of (inaudible) provide there?
- President & CEO
I think that the typical IRR, unleverred IRR, for that type of transaction is somewhere in the 8% to 8.5% range.
- Analyst
All right.
- President & CEO
I don't remember the specifics for this deal, but it's somewhere in that range.
- Analyst
Okay, fair enough. One more, if I may. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but the third quarter acquisitions were done on a wholly-owned basis and not through the JV. And I think last quarter that acquisitions near term would be mostly through your Wesco JV. So I guess the question is are you precluded from acquiring non stabilizing assets through that JV, or you're just not interested in (technical difficulty) from the partner, or some other reason?
- President & CEO
Yes, no, as I said before, we are committing relatively small chunks of capital. And when we commit capital in a co-investment format, that we're going to dedicate our deal flow to the co-investment program. And so in these cases, I don't remember specifically why, but I think we that were outside that commitment period.
And for whatever reason, the deals didn't work. I think one of them was under 100 units. So small unit size is one of the criteria that might cause us to do something on balance here, which I think was actually the case in this situation.
- Analyst
All right. Thank you.
Operator
Michael Salinsky with RBC Capital Markets.
- Analyst
Good afternoon, guys. Hey, Mike, if I recall correctly, you also look at the other markets throughout the US when you're looking at your market forecasts and everything else. Just curious as to what you would expect across as the US as a whole in terms of market rent growth in 2014, how the West Coast markets compare to that?
- President & CEO
Yes. We do have and rely on actually a metrics in a lot of these cases since we don't have direct knowledge. I would say that our interest in tracking other markets is defensive in nature. In other words, if another market is going to dramatically beat the West Coast, then we certainly want to know it and would want to consider it at some level.
So, acknowledging or not withstanding the fact that it would be incredibly challenging to enter a new market. So as a general statement, we think that the West Coast lags the national recovery by a couple of years, and our recession was worse as a general statement than most of the nation. And so we still believe that the West Coast is the place to be.
Having said that, there are markets out there that are doing quite well and we're not going to go to -- the energy markets, let's say, just because we are concerned about the costs of for sale housing alternatives. Cheaper for sale housing is a concern to us. So that eliminates a number of the energy markets that will have strong job growth, but will have a inexpensive for sale housing option and home builders will do what they do pretty effectively, we think.
Obviously, Boston is a great market. It's in the axio top ten, and there are other good markets around. But as a general statement, if you look at our geography and you look at the position of our portfolio, we think we're well positioned for the future. And of course, this is where we know every corner and every neighborhood. And so we've got a certain value add here that we wouldn't have somewhere else.
- Analyst
Well that's encouraging. Second question; you talked a little bit about asset pricing, but I'm more curious to get your expectations over the next 12 months as to where asset pricing goes, given moon we say in the ten year and that some of the pent up growth, the recovery has already occurred. And then also, in light of that, how does that impact your decision on asset recycling now that you've wrapped up Fund II partially?
- President & CEO
Yes. Just a couple comments.
Our view is we're a looking for, again, arbitrage between the return on something that -- a property we're going to invest in relative to the value of the stock. And so we're looking for situations where there's a net differential. The private/public arbitrage situation will work in our favor.
And so, it's not just about asset pricing. And in fact, you saw coming our of the great recession that we were pretty aggressive as to the property that we wanted and I'd say, that was not withstanding pretty pricey assets on a cap rate basis. But with stock and debt that was very attractively priced.
So we look at the relationship between the two to try to drive our results. So we have to predict both, is basically what I'm saying. I would say that there seems to be plenty of demand for apartments and cap rates tend to be pretty sticky. And so I don't expect a lot of change there.
The real question for us is what about the cost of funds? And we have a choice there between on balance sheet, where we're using our stock on a leverage-neutral basis, or we're using the fund co-investment format. And so we try to look at it a number of different ways, and again try to focus on how do we add value to the portfolio.
- Analyst
Okay. Thank you much.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Paula Poskon with Robert W. Baird.
- Analyst
Thanks very much. Apologies if I missed this in your prepared remarks, but what is the rent to income ratio? How is that trending across your markets?
- President & CEO
Paula, it was not part of our prepared remarks. And -- but I do have it here.
- Analyst
Thank you.
- President & CEO
So in Seattle, Seattle is actually under the long-term average. It's 16.5% rent to median income. The way that we calculate it, and everyone calculates it a little bit differently, we look at this as a broad-based market average.
We're not interested on a property by property basis calculating the rent to income for a property, because it sort of misses the point, the broader point, which is what is going on in the marketplace as it to relates to rental affordability. So Seattle, a little bit under the long-term average. San Francisco, almost exactly at the long-term average. Same with Oakland.
San Jose is actually about 1% ahead of the long-term average, they're around 21% versus the 20% long-term average. And Southern California, as a general statement, under the long-term average, but approaching the long-term average.
- Analyst
And, I'm sorry. Can you give me the exact numbers for San Francisco and Oakland?
- President & CEO
Sure. So San Francisco 24.9% versus 24.4% long-term average. Oakland 20.2% versus 20.1% long-term average. San Jose 21.3%, versus 20.3% long-term average.
Ventura 18% versus 18.7. L.A. 20.5% versus 22.5%. Orange County 20.9% versus 20.7%. And San Diego 20.2% versus 21.2%.
- Analyst
Thanks very much. And just to follow up on the question earlier about condo conversions, are you seeing the pace of condo accelerations -- of condo conversions accelerate in your markets?
- EVP Asset Management
Yes, this is John again. What we're seeing is the housing prices increased pretty dramatically over the last year, and still very strongly increasing. And so, we're starting to see some of the developments that went out as condos and then ultimately were converted to apartments temporarily, those are going auto back into the market as condos. And we're stating to see the very beginnings of people actually start from the beginning ground up and build condos. But we're early in the process where there's still some room to run on this condo execution plan.
- Analyst
Great. That's all I have. Thanks, guys.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
David Harris with Imperial Capital.
- Analyst
Hello all.
- President & CEO
Hey, David.
- Analyst
I have to ask a question as a Brit about Bunker Hill.
- President & CEO
Yes.
- Analyst
Now, this would be the biggest, longest lasting redevelopment that I can recall Essex ever undertaking.
- President & CEO
I think it's up there. It's a very unique asset. Yes.
- Analyst
This is probably something I might have to discuss with Mike Dance on a separate -- on another occasion. But is this issue on really the accounting. Are you going to lose tenants and income for periods here?
And does it go into a little cost basis? And how are you going to capitalize this? Is there an easy summary to this? Because it seems like it's a lot of -- this is a sizable development some if it were standing on its own. And we know how you'd treat if it were a development.
- SVP of Operations
Big picture is as we're spending money, we capitalize it as if we're doing a development on the money we're spending. And then when we take units off line, and these are going to be much more than the 22,000 because we're doing new windows and a lot -- and the floor plans are pretty big here.
So while we take the unit offline, we actually take the historical net book value and capitalize interest on that plus the spend. So there is capitalized interest, and we could put together a model that summarizes the impact over that for a five year expected period of time. But yes, it's not easier to --
- Analyst
Right, yes. Now given the size of this project and the singular risk attached to one asset, how much of an extra return are you generating out of this project compared to your others?
- EVP Asset Management
This is John. Why don't I give an overview of the asset itself just to start from the beginning. So the assets, these are obviously two towers in downtown LA. We bought them in 1998. They were built in 1968. So a little bit old.
When we bought them, we bought them for $86,000 a unit. Today they're probably worth about $204,000 a unit. Somewhere in that area. So our unleveraged return is somewhere in the 12% range. We've done well on these assets, obviously anticipating the downtown renewal.
Now at this point, going forward, we're looking at this revitalization opportunity to put about $165,000 a unit into these assets and completely redo them with actually building balconies, all new windows, all new infrastructure, all new unit turns, et cetera. We're building a very large amenity building with a 10,000 square foot gym, a rooftop pool and deck, et cetera. Quite a wonderful asset.
So in the end, we'll be in there somewhere around $370,000 a unit for an asset that would sell for somewhere around $500,000 plus a unit, or $450,000, $500,000 a unit. So we're probably ar roughly say 80% on the dollar for this asset from a post-rental standpoint. And so we look at the value creation is pretty dramatic in these assets. Does that give a bigger picture?
- Analyst
Yes.
- EVP Asset Management
Another thing that I did bring up is there's another piece to it which is interrelated to the amenity building and just the general upgrade. Which is, we have development rights for another tower, a third tower. And so doing this work better positions us for that opportunity somewhere down the line, probably toward the end of this entire project, effectively improving the neighborhood and taking advantage of the renewal in downtown LA.
- Analyst
Okay, good. Mike Schall, I think this one is for you.
You've fought very well at the bottom of the cycle. We're now looking at property markets, which if you just look from our 30,000 feet Kay Schiller would suggest that we've seen some very substantial residential price appreciation over the last few years, particularly in Southern California. Are any of those buildings getting close to a sale? And particularly, the condo quality assets that you bought?
- President & CEO
David, I think John as alluding to this. It's interesting, because the apartment values have done really well, as well. So you have a race between the for sale homes, home values, and the apartment values.
And I'd say the market that is closest to tipping over toward the condo being the appropriate exit is San Francisco. Southern California has really not had that much rent growth. And therefore, and it hasn't had the condo side hasn't appreciated as much as well. So, I think we're further behind in Southern California than we are up here in the North.
But having said that, you have some apartments that are worth $800,000 a unit in San Francisco. And that means that condo values have to be north of $1 million before that makes any sense at all. And certainly condo values are going in that direction. They're just not quite there.
So I would rank San Francisco number one. And I don't want to take away John's thunder at the Investor Day because he's going to be talking about this topic. But San Francisco, Northern California, number one, and Southern California. Which has, as you point out, we bought a lot of very high-end beautiful buildings that are better condos than they are apartments candidly. And so there's some great opportunities in Southern Cal.
- Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks.
- President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Dave Bragg with Green Street Advisors.
- Analyst
Hi. Good morning. On the rehab activity done on the turns, I think you mentioned $22,000 per unit? What returns are you targeting on those?
- EVP Asset Management
We tend to be getting IRRs of somewhere in the mid teens, which also works out to cash on cash of, say, 11%. Somewhere in that zone.
- Analyst
Okay. And what was the impact of that activity on the same-store revenue growth in 2013?
- EVP Asset Management
Because we're ramping it up, it actually is somewhat offset by a vacancy we have. So you have to do them pretty early in the year to re-capture the downtime.
- Analyst
Right.
- EVP Asset Management
So, until we kind of levelize -- level off the amount we're doing this year compared to last year, you don't really see that much benefit because of the ramp up.
- Analyst
So we'll see it next year?
- EVP Asset Management
Yes.
- Analyst
Okay. Got it. And then --
- President & CEO
Yes, Dave, make sure you hear that last thing. Say it again, John.
- EVP Asset Management
We're also increasing the unit turns next year. I think Mike will give out more clear guidance in the future. But, the increase in unit turns was pretty significant from 2013 over 2012 and it will continue that way 2014 over 2013.
- Analyst
All right. Maybe we can get into it more on the next call when it's a little more relevant. And then the returns that you gave on the rehab activity, can you please provide those targets for the full-scale redevelopment activity too?
- President & CEO
Well, the full-scale redevelopment activity, as a general rule, the IRRs are going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10%s, 11%s. Somewhere in that zone. They typically include all the new infrastructure. So we're going through and redoing HVAC, the plumbing, et cetera. So those returns are a little bit lower in that zone.
- Analyst
Thank you.
- President & CEO
Thanks, Dave.
Operator
Thank you. We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Schall for any concluding comments.
- Analyst
Thank you Steffie. In closing, we appreciate your participation on the call as always. And we are obviously pleased with the results in the quarter and the positive outlook for 2014.
We look forward to seeing many of you at NAREIT next month in San Francisco. Have a great day. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.