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Good morning ladies and gentlemen, please remain online, the conference call will begin shortly. Thank you. Greetings, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Energy Recovery Third Quarter of 2022 Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) question answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operators assistance duering the conference (Operator Instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. James Siccardi, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Energy Recovery's 2022 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. My name is Jim Siccardi, Vice President of Investor Relations at Energy Recovery. I'm here today with our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Bob Mao and our Chief Financial Officer, Joshua Ballard. During today's call, we may make projections and other forward-looking statements under the safe harbor provisions contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. These statements may discuss our business, economic and market outlook, growth expectations, new products and their performance, cost structure and business strategy. Forward-looking statements are based on information currently available to us and on management's beliefs, assumptions, estimates or projections. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and other factors. We refer you to documents the company files from time to time with the SEC, specifically the company's Form 10-K and Form 10-Q. These documents identify important factors that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those contained in our projections or forward-looking statements. All statements are made during this call are made only as of today, November 2nd, 2022, and the company expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update these forward-looking statements made during this call to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, unless otherwise required by law. At this point, I will turn the call over to our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Bob Mount.

Thank you, Jim, and thank you, everyone, for joining us. We recognize today's China challenging economic environment with a potential global recession, rising interest rates inflation, a strengthening dollar and lingering supply chain issues. We are not immune to these macro events. However, by the nature of our business and the strength of our balance sheet, we are in a better position to navigate these headwinds. Despite these macroeconomic headwinds, we achieved our second highest revenue quarter to date of $30.5 million in the third quarter. We continue to anticipate a record Q4, which will mark our sixth consecutive record revenue year. While we anticipate signing roughly $130 million in contracts to ship this year. We are experiencing some macro project customer-related delays, which could result in revenue landing between 121 and $125 million for 2022. Meanwhile, we are on track to exceed our industrial wastewater guidance of $3 million for this year. We will discuss these risks as well as our success today. James will then also take you through our guidance for next year and outlook for 2024. The takeaway is that we believe we are well positioned with the right technology and strategy even for this environment, despite any headwinds globally and feel confident about our long-term prospects. As usual, we will start with our water business. In 2022, it seems that water scarcity issue are increasing at a heightened pace across the globe. This is evident with new headlines, highlighting record low water levels in places as disparate as Western United States around the Mississippi in the U.S., a ring of Europe, the Sams in England throughout Italy and across the world. Growing water scarcity highlights the need for solutions that create more sustainable and stable sources of fresh water. Our water business, including both desalination and the industrial wastewater are part of that solution. For this reason and to remain the dominant market leader in these growing markets, we continue to invest in innovative new products to remain at the forefront of these industries. In October, we launched our newest pressure exchanger, the PX Q400. The Q400 is our most efficient and highest capacity PX available has generated substantial industry interest, including our first purchase orders. The Q400 is targeted at larger scale desalination plants as well as potential industrial wastewater applications. The Q400 can handle 33% more water flow than the Q300 model. It offers an industry-leading mixing rate of less than 3% and provides a nearly 1% increase in efficiency at maximum PX flow capacity, which translates into significant additional dollar sales for our customers over the Q300. We also recently announced a new pressure exchanger for low-pressure water applications. One example of this is British water desalination, such as underground aquifers which typically requires much lower pressures than seawater desalination. Our new low-pressure PX should help us expand our presence in British water desalination. We are also innovating in industrial wastewater. Our team has worked with our customers to develop new PX products that address industry's specific needs, such as our new U250 PX. The PX increased the flow capacity of our Ultra PX line by 6x, allowing larger industrial wastewater plants to implement this technology. We are seeing demand for such devices in industries like the lithium battery market and brine mining in desalination. We're working on additional products to offer additional flow capacity that can process other types of wastewater to continue expanding into potential industrial wastewater verticals. Results from the field continues to show that our Ultra PX is achieving efficiencies of at least 93% while generating significant savings for our customers, as we described last quarter. The profiles collected from these initial deployments are proving instrumental in helping us to grow our product leadership position and our backlog in these key verticals while heightening our value proposition through efficiency gains and market-leading reliability. We continue to see the results of these efforts in the lithium market, where we have secured 15 separate contracts from lithium refining, recycling and mining markets in China. According to Benchmark Mineral Intelligence, current global leasing volumes will need to increase by 24 to meet demand by the middle of this century. By 2040, nearly 20% of lithium will be sourced from recycled batteries. The lithium market is an important segment of our growing industrial wastewater backlog. With our more customer-focused marketing approach, we are seeking to extract additional market share in this market. We are also actively investing into developing our brand name and build a market leadership role within the Asian industrial wastewater industry in verticals such as textiles, where we expect to see significant growth in the coming years. We are committed to building the teams and presence we need to be successful in this market. We have set aggressive targets for our team, and we will hold ourselves responsible for delivering on these targets. To sum up, we will continue to strengthen our competitive position in desalination through 2023 and beyond to meet our 2026 target of $200 million in revenue. In addition, we will continue to invest in our industrial wastewater business to build our volume sales by investing in new product innovation, personnel in key markets, including China and India and the increased in local marketing efforts. We'll stay on track of our 30 to $70 million revenue goal for 2026, we must significantly grow industrial wastewater revenue in 2023 and 2024. Given our backlog, we feel comfortable in our ability to double our revenue in 2023. For 2024, we are targeting a range of 12 to $20 million. Now let's turn to our CO2 business. As we have previously stated, we are focused on TV volume sales in 2023. We're comfortable with the technology and the results in the field and continue to see growing interest from the refrigeration market as evidenced by new sales orders and the increased activity by our OEM partners and others. It's an exciting time for energy recovery. I'll start with an update of our partner-related activities. First, we successfully commissioned our PHC as Vallarta supermarkets here in California. The unit's been transforming reliably as expected is the past few weeks. But it is too early to provide data because we're now entering the cooler months, we expect efficiency gains will be less than those we initially experienced at our first installation in Europe. As a reminder, our technology improves in efficiency as outside temperature rise. Continuing the momentum from the successful commissioning, we're working with Vallarta on potential future deployments of PX Enable systems in 2023. Our PHC installation in Southern Europe continues to perform optimally, which have frankly exceeded expectations. However, we have not incurred as much experience in these early weeks as we would have liked due to commissioning issues relating to ancillary equipments which resulted in some delays in running the PHC. But when running the PXG has delivered efficiency gains up to 25% during the hardest days of the summer. We're also discussing with our partner on potential deployment for next year. We hope to have more of an update on those locations in early 2023. Our U.S.-based partner whom we announced in our call in August, has been working with our technical team to optimize their system architecture with the intention of deploying their first PXG enabled CO2 system at a supermarket here in the U.S., which will likely occur in early 2023. In addition, we expect to ship multiple units to other customers through the end of this year and early 2023. In fact, we will recognize our first revenue in the fourth quarter of this year. While this revenue may not be very material, it marks a major milestone on our path to volume sales. Importantly, these sales also include our first 4 units to an industrial partner in Europe for 2 locations in Europe. These sites will be the first locations to utilize multiple PXGs and we are already discussing future installations for 2023. We will be able to update you on these upcoming shipments on our year-end earnings call in February. Finally, we have begun to see an uptick of interest from European heat pump manufacturers. This is in part a response to our recently published EPAM reference design, but also follows our participation in the largest refrigeration and heating technology trade show held annually in Germany. We were one of the only disruptive technologies at the conference and the interest in our capabilities over time from both refrigeration and heat on OEMs at the conference, and these discussions have led to increased activities in the weeks since. Our early partner success are significant milestones for our business. We are showing that, one, the refrigeration and heating industries are hungry for new technologies to help address their challenges with CO2 systems. Two that CO2 is the future of both refrigeration and heat pump applications. And three, that our products can provide concrete value by reducing energy consumption, just as we have consistently done over 20 years in desalination. As we look forward to 2023, we must begin to deliver on volume sales. Our CO2 business is a startup and just beginning to enter the market therefore, it is too early to provide exclusive guidance. However, what I can tell you is that any volume sales in 2023 would be weight through the second half of the year and likely remain in the single-digit millions. My goal is to exit 2023 with a backlog and/or pipeline that points to double-digit milling in sales in 2024, showing that we are on our way to our 100 to $300 million targeted revenue for 2026. We clearly have a lot of work to do to achieve these markets. However, we believe market interest is strong and that the potential pipeline volume this year as we further gain acceptance of our technology in the industry. In 2023, we'll be increasing investments in sales and account management talent as well as technical service resources to provide aftersales commissioning and product support as we launch and expand marketing to further build our brand name in the industry and drive demand from the end customers of our technology, supermarkets and industrial users. We will continue to invest in engineering and technology through one partner closely with OEM and supermarkets on the most efficient architectures used for RPHC and provide further improvement to our technology; and three, further our EPAM applications. We believe we are providing the versatile nature of our PX technology platform while meeting the targets required by the disciplined growth strategy metrics we have put in place. We continue to execute on the strategy we have laid out for you over the last several quarters. And despite the global economic headwinds this year has brought we are making significant progress and continue to grow our business. With that, let me hand this call over to Josh.

Good afternoon, everyone. I'll start first with providing a few more details on our top line growth. Revenue grew 47% in the third quarter year-on-year, and that has grown 18% year-to-date. The real story within these results is the strength in OEM and aftermarket sales, which are finally broken through our COVID lows in 2020 and 2021. OEM sales, excluding industrial wastewater, have grown over 60% year-to-date and aftermarket has exceeded 30%. These strong results reflect, in part, a backlog of projects that were delayed in the past couple of years. It is likely that 2022 will be our largest year ever in both OEM and aftermarket sales. As I mentioned in prior calls, our mega project revenue started out slower in the first half of the year but is picking up in the second half as expected. While Q3 was a strong quarter, our fourth quarter should be our strongest ever led by mega-project shipments. However, as Bob mentioned, there is some risk in our fourth quarter. I want to be clear that this risk is simply due to temporary project-specific delays. While we are seeing some changes in the timing of a few individual projects, we are not yet seeing a shift in our longer-term outlook related to global economic events. There were 2 key project-related shifts this year. First, about $4 million of our 2022 backlog is shipping to Egypt, where local capital controls have been put in place to slow hard currency payments due to a weakening Egyptian pound. This has slowed our ability to ship and recognize this revenue. While the timing is in flux, as of today, we are confident these projects will shift either this year or next. Second, another $6 million project in the UAE was delayed due to the replacement of the EPC itself. This project is being rebid and revenue is likely delayed until 2024. We're working hard to solve these challenges, but there does seem to be more risk to the timing of our 2022 revenue, which is why we have adjusted to a range. In 2023, the dynamics of our desalination revenue will likely change somewhat. First, after our COVID rebound in OEM and aftermarket sales, we expect these channels to remain relatively flat to slightly down in 2023. However, our mega project channel should exhibit growth of 6 to 12%, which shows continued strength in our most important channel for desalination growth. Therefore, in 2023, we are currently projecting overall desalination revenue growth of between 3 to 7%. However, the actual growth rate in 2023 will much depend on our final 2022 results and so I will update you again at the next earnings call. This may be slower growth than 2022 however, we often talk about the lumpy nature of our desalination revenue as a slight shift in the timing of 1 or 2 mega projects can have an outsized effect on growth in a given year. This is in part what we are seeing in 2023. You should also note that this growth is overweighted to the latter half of next year due to the timing of these mega project shipments. Our first quarter will likely be our lowest quarter of the year at between 10 to $15 million in revenue, and our second quarter could fall to between 20 to $25 million with the remaining balance split between Q3 and Q4. We anticipate 2024 to be another strong year for desalination, where revenue growth could again exceed 20%. This growth in 2024 will put us back on an average 15% growth trend and put us well on the path to achieving our $200 million target in desalination revenue by 2026. We believe the secular strength of desalination remains strong. In industrial wastewater, we are targeting 6 to $8 million in revenue in 2023, which would mean doubling from this year. At least a doubling again of revenue in industrial waste water in 2024 will keep us on track to hit our target of 30 to $70 million in 2026. Despite our bullish niche, we are watching global events and in particular, 3 main risks in the short to medium term, inflation, the strengthening dollar and a potential global economic downturn. The biggest risk to our outlook is in our desalination OEM and aftermarket channels where we have visibility on average of only about 6 months. These 2 channels could be more negatively affected by a strengthening dollar or a potential global economic slowdown because 40 to 50% of their revenue is made up of a variety of industries and as many countries. We are already experiencing a negative effect related to the dollar with our sales in Egypt, as I described earlier. While 60 to 70% of our revenue is currently in the Middle East, where there is little fear of the rising dollar or an economic downturn, it could affect customers in other parts of the world such as North Africa, Asia and Latin America. We are less concerned as to how these economic events could affect our launch in the CO2 business. This is a new business and whether there is a slowdown in the overall industry is largely relevant to us. As the transition to CO2 means that the CO2 market will continue to grow at a very fast clip regardless. In addition, our product helps supermarkets save money, which only becomes more valuable in a challenging inflationary environment. Now let's turn to gross margin. We remain on target to achieve our guided, 66 to 68% gross margin in 2022 and we'll likely end the year at the higher end of this range. We still expect to see some softening of our water margin in 2023 as we experience growing wages, hospital increased tariffs and other inflationary pressures. In addition, we are expecting a growing shift in product mix, whereas we are providing more integrated packages, including racks and manifolds, which have grown to as high as 4% of revenue this past year. Racks and manifolds have an added service to our customers, but largely a pass-through cost for us at a much reduced margin. Of course, as every company is today, we are looking at pricing and methods to increase manufacturing efficiencies to mitigate the effect of increasing costs. Altogether, we are currently estimating a water gross margin of between 64% to 66% in 2023. Our blended top line gross margin will depend on the level of CO2 sales next year as the nature of our volume sales in the start-up business begin to take shape in 2023, I will be sure to update you. Let's now turn to operating expenses. Our OpEx, excluding the onetime expenses associated with seasoning VorTeq operations continues to evolve in line with what I've described in past calls. This year, we are trending to roughly 48 to 49% of revenue based on our original revenue guidance or approximately 63 to $64 million in OpEx when excluding those onetime expenses. This OpEx range translates in the 50% to 52% of revenue based on our adjusted guidance for this year. You will note that sales and marketing spend represents up to 80% of growth in recurring OpEx in 2022 as we ramp up our CO2 and industrial wastewater teams. Also included is the post-COVID balancing spend as our desalination sales team returned to traveling, trade shows picked up and so forth. We expect this dynamic will remain much the same in 2023 with with slower single-digit growth in G&A spend, largely driven by wage inflation and headcount added in 2022, along with inflationary in increases in insurance and professional services spend such as auto. We expect growth of high 30% to 40% in sales and marketing spend as we accelerate investments in CO2 and industrial wastewater and flat to a possible slight decrease in R&D spend due to the lack of VorTeq investments in 2023. Overall, we expect OpEx as a percent of revenue to come in at 52% to 53% next year. This will be a slight increase over 2022, but we remain steadfast in maintaining our disciplined approach to spend as we grow. Inflation and our need to invest in sales and marketing ahead of future sales has simply caused a bit of a bump. However, I remain confident that by 2026, we can still reduce our operating spend to a lower percent of revenue, likely in the 30% to 35% range. In 2024, assuming we achieve the growth we are targeting, we will see the trend of OpEx decreasing as a percent of revenue begin to accelerate. As we look forward to 24 through 26, G&A spend should continue to grow at a much slower pace than revenue and therefore normalize over this period. Sales and marketing spend will likely remain elevated over the next year or 2 but should begin to fall to a more normalized range of 5% to 10% of revenue as we realize revenue for our new business lines. And finally, based on our current strategy, R&D spend should continue to grow slowly and therefore, fall below 10% of revenue in the coming years. So what does all this mean for our bottom line profitability. In 2023, we are currently projecting a somewhat weaker operating margin compared to 2022 between 10 to 14% in adjusted EBITDA margin of 19 to 23%. We should see our operating margin beginning to grow again in 2024 through 2026. The simple math is this. If we assume an average blended gross margin of 60% by 2026 within our 3 business lines and reduce our OpEx to 30 to 35% this implies an operating margin over the long run of 25 to 30% and therefore, an adjusted EBITDA margin of roughly 35 to 40%. In our projections of net profit, we are assuming a 15 to 20% tax range, which I would use for projections going forward. Let's now turn to cash. Our current cash and security balance remained at a healthy $87 million in Q3, and we believe we will end the year between 90 to $100 million. Where we end in that range depends solely on the timing of customers received at this point. We have clearly made a significant investment in inventory this year however, this pace will not continue. First, we will ship out a lot of pressure exchanges in the fourth quarter. Second, while you continue to see growth in our raw material inventory levels, that will begin to reduce by early 2023. We had 2 goals this year. We have targeted to end the year with 4 to 5 months of pressure exchanger inventory, which is roughly what we ended last year with. Also, we continue to build a raw material inventory in light of production and supply chain issues in both China and Europe, which we believe we can begin to moderate as we head into 2023. As we look forward, we should begin to see a reduction in inventory levels in Q4, which will likely continue throughout the first half of 2023. We will need to be careful to balance our finished good inventory levels with the changing product mix, which includes our new Q400, our industrial wastewater products and the PXG. In addition, we must keep an eye on our capacity needs as we gauge how quickly the CO2 business will ramp up in the latter half of 2023 and into 2024. Increased finished good levels of our stable water products, for example, could help to free up capacity in 2024, if it's needed for CO2. In short, we will keep you updated as these businesses evolve next year. We are expecting to invest 4 to $4.5 million in total CapEx by the end of this year and likely a similar level in 2023 as we continue to upgrade our manufacturing equipment in San Leandro and in the overall facilities. We do not expect a large increase in CapEx to occur until we begin to see growth in CO2, at which time we will need to invest in new capacity to manage future growth. At this time, there is no plan for additional share buybacks. With that, we can move into Q&A.

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting a question and answer session. (Operator Instructions) We'll pause a moment while we wait for the question que to fold. The first question comes from Pavel Monaco of Raymond James.

Thanks for taking the question. Let me start with the near-term desalination outlook. We typically think of diesel as something that has really no economic sensitivity. We saw this with during COVID in 2020, for example. To the extent that you mentioned projects being pushed out. Is that driven by macroeconomic conditions or is it just physical construction delays?

Pavel, this is Josh. These are very specific project delays that's not related to the overall economy at all at this point. Well, I mean, with the exception, I guess, you could say with Egypt, with their currency having a little bit of trouble obviously, that's causing some specific delays. But otherwise, it's really unrelated to the economy at this time. And to your point on diesel being decoupled, I think that is true with the mega projects, and that's what we saw in 2020 when COVID began. It's less true with OEM projects that are much more where roughly 60% of our smaller OEM projects are municipalities, which are probably less effective, but the other 40%, give or take, are a variety of industries, which could be affected. So during COVID, hospitality and travel industries got hit really hard, for example. So it just really depends on where the economic effect is happening in a given country.

Okay. Following up on diesel, you touched on water scarcity being kind of a worldwide store may not limit it to the Middle East. As we hear more headlines, for example, from California and parts of Europe on diesel new builds are you seeing that in incoming orders or at least prospective customer engagements?

We are not seeing it yet in the incoming orders in Europe or the U.S. at this time. Now we are seeing it, for example, in Asia. Asia this year is growing about 30% versus closer to 10% for the Middle East, for example. So we're definitely seeing it in Asia, but not yet quite in the U.S. or Europe.

Okay. My third question is on the margin profile between the wastewater solution and the diesel solution with wastewater becoming a bit more needle moving in the revenue mix next year, does that lower your kind of blended margin profile, in other words, are you averaging in a lower-margin product as you grow the wastewater business?

We are not when we started out so for example, we talked about on our last earnings call, we have that 1-year payback. That is an example where we had our initial sales were lower margin, but we're already getting them well over 60% and starting to near the desalination margins at this point.

Okay. And lastly, I think 3 months ago, there was still some potential for finding up VorTeq partner, is that still remotely possibility?

I suppose remotely, anything is possible, Pavel. I'm not assuming the high chance of success there, no.

Okay. Understood. Thank you, guys.

You, bet, thanks you Pavel

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, just a reminder [Operator Instructions) We have a follow-up from Pavel Molchanov of Raymond James

I did not want to monopolize, but maybe I'll ask a Poon. On the Refrigeration solution, I think the target that you indicated maybe 6 months ago was for that business to be a breakeven kind of first half of 2023. Is it fair to say that it will take a little longer than that, maybe another year or so?

Probably to the latter part of 2022.

Right. Okay. And where are you, you mentioned the kind of backlog in refrigeration that you expect by the end of next year. Geographically, where is the demand visible? Is it essentially a European story because of the regulatory landscape?

We see Europe and now in recent weeks, we start seeing movement at the end user level in the U.S. as well.

And what drives that demand in other words, is it a cost savings as simple as that for the end user or is there a regulatory angle to it, or like a mandate of some sort?

The regulatory mandate is for the industry to shift out of HFC and therefore, into natural refrigerants. And in the natural refrigerants, CO2 seems to becoming really dominant. So from a regulatory push point of view, the customer go to CO2, they are compliant. But as we have said at the outset, a couple or several quarters ago, that CO2 burns more energy. So for the end user, regulator push comes with a financial pain, and that's where we're coming. We can reduce the energy burn and our results are also showing that when properly designed and dimension, the whole refrigeration system construct there need not be additional CapEx incurred due to the addition of our equipment. That's what we mean by CapEx neutrality. Why? Because our PX does have compressor air cooler functions and valve function. So the incorporation of our PX properly designed constructed will reduce the need for the other components, which pays for the PX. And if we truly reach CapEx then Pavel the payback become instantaneous that is energy saving. And of course, energy savings as well as the electricity used to run these systems are not 100% renewable energy, the energy saving also translates to a smaller emission footprint.

And then finally, on guidance for next year, when we add the 3 to 7% growth rate for diesel with 6 to 8 million of wastewater. I want to make sure I'm doing the arithmetic right, I get to somewhere in kind of 130 to $135 million of total top line as reported, is that accurate?

Yes, probably a little higher, probably more like 133 or 137, somewhere in there. That's right, Pavel. And it will really depend and we'll have to talk about next earnings call on how we end at the end of this year with that range because even that $4 million range for us is a few percentage points, right? So we'll see how that ends and when those projects shift and I can update.

Okay. That's very helpful and thanks always for posting the script online.

You bet.

Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, just a final reminder (Operator Instructions) Ladies and gentlemen, as we have no further questions on the lines this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference over back to Mr. James Siccardi for closing remarks.

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to speaking to you again in February. Have a great evening

Goodbye.