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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon. My name is Chris, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the 8x8 Fiscal Q1 2019 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Victoria Hyde-Dunn, Head of Investor Relations, you may begin the conference.

  • Victoria Hyde-Dunn - IR

  • Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to 8x8's First Fiscal Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Vik Verma, Chief Executive Officer; and Mary Ellen Genovese, Chief Financial Officer.

  • Our format today will include prepared remarks, followed by questions and answers. The earnings press release, presentation and non-GAAP to GAAP reconciliation that accompany this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.8x8.com. A replay of this call will be posted on our website for 30 days.

  • I would like to remind all participants that, during this conference call, any forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, and our actual results could materially differ as a result of a variety of factors. Additional information concerning those risk factors is available in our most recent report on Forms 10-K and 10-Q, which you can find on the SEC's website and the Investor Relations section of our website.

  • With that, I'd like to now turn the call over to Vik.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Victoria. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to our earnings conference call. We are very pleased at the broad-based strength across the business this past quarter and believe it represents ongoing validation of our strategic plan. I'm also happy to report we're seeing strong early returns on the investments we have made in product, talent and go-to-market expansion.

  • Our first quarter results exceeded expectations on both the top and bottom lines. Service revenue was $78.1 million and grew 20% year-over-year. Adjusting for constant currency and excluding DXI, service revenue growth was 21%. This is over a 100 basis point improvement sequentially. Non-GAAP pretax loss was $3.4 million.

  • I will spend a few minutes reviewing 3 primary observations from the quarter before turning the call over to Mary Ellen, who will cover the financial results in greater detail.

  • First, our solid quarterly performance was driven by bookings growth from our mid-market and enterprise customers, increasing sales velocity from our channel partners and strong customer demand for our integrated solutions. In particular, service revenue from mid-market and enterprise customers billing greater than $1,000 in monthly recurring revenue grew over 30% year-over-year, adjusting for constant currency and excluding DXI. This was led in part by channel bookings, which grew over 50% year-over-year.

  • Our performance from large-enterprise customers also improved as our sales team closed 21 new large-enterprise deals with monthly recurring revenue of $10,000 or greater during the quarter. This represented a 61% increase in the number of new large deals closed year-over-year. Regarding bookings, new monthly recurring revenue booked from mid-market and enterprise customers increased 25% year-over-year.

  • With respect to deals where customers purchased both integrated communications and contact center, which we refer to as combinations deals, we continue to see our strategy of owning a complete cloud suite resonating. During the first quarter, about 90 customer deals were combination deals, including 5 of our top 10 deals overall.

  • One notable win is with an Australian enterprise software company. The ability to provide a truly global unified platform, analytics, customizable APIs and Jira integration was a deciding factor in replacing the incumbent on-premise provider.

  • We're also pleased by continued strong upsell and expansion from our current mid-market and enterprise customers and the healthy addition of new logos. We booked approximately 48% of new monthly recurring revenue from our existing installed customer base, and annual retention rates, including up-sell, were over 100% across all segments.

  • One recent example was an add-on order from a retail customer that sells eyeglasses and provides eye exams. The customer originally turned to 8x8 after needing to replace a legacy on-premise provider and evaluated several cloud communication providers. They ultimately chose 8x8 because of our ability to provide a unified communications and contact center solution, which will deliver a better and more efficient experience to their customers, member optometrists and store retail operations. This past quarter, the customer significantly expanded their relationship with us by adding more than 5,000 new seats to 750 retail locations.

  • Turning to the channel. Our engagement with channel partners continues to accelerate as more partners look for fully integrated, complete cloud solutions. In fact, 7 of our top-10 U.S. deals were assisted by channel partners. We were also honored to be awarded as the leading company to "grow revenues with" and "easiest vendor to do business with" by channel partner AVANT Communications.

  • A recent win in which a key channel partner played an instrumental role is a U.S. large transportation distributor who operates in over 250 locations within 45 states. Their existing on-premise platform was overly complex, outdated and cost-prohibitive. 8x8 won this 3,700-seat deal after a competitive RFP process with another cloud communications provider in which our ability to provide both the cloud PBX and cloud contact center solution as a single platform was the deciding factor.

  • Second, our strategy of delivering one system of intelligent engagement is now live with 8x8 X Series. Customers want one cloud system of engagement that brings together voice, collaboration, videoconferencing, messaging, contact center and analytics. This is what we have described as the third wave of Enterprise Communications, the natural next stage of evolution as more communications move into the cloud.

  • Now available for sale in the U.S. and U.K., X Series helps companies through this transformation with one cloud solution that delivers a system of engagement across all devices, including mobile, desktop or dedicated hardware. X Series is a true global solution offering unlimited calling within 47 countries and which will support users in over 150 countries.

  • We believe X Series is a game changer for 8x8 and the market. It is the end result of hundreds of employee years of research and development efforts and multiple acquisitions. X Series now provides a natural progression of capabilities that I call the stairway to heaven. Each plan, from X1 to X8, layers on incremental features, functionality, data analytics and customer engagement experience that allows customers to add on more sophisticated capabilities as their own business needs evolve.

  • The X Series' tiered subscription model simplifies the purchasing process for our customers because it enables our direct and channel sales team to sell a complete integrated solution that works out of the box. Since 8x8 is the only pure cloud provider with our own core technology, we can ensure customers on the X platform will benefit from integrations across the suite and continuous improvement in each of its components. That means when we release a new user interface or new integration, they will be available across the entire platform.

  • As an example, we now have Okta integration available across the X Series platform. X Series also integrates with Salesforce, Zendesk, NetSuite, G-Suite and Microsoft Office. X Series has already gained early adoption and success, particularly across mid-market and enterprise organizations in a wide variety of industries, including retail, health care, manufacturing, technology and the public sector, including Applebee's in the U.S. and Brent and Lewisham Council in the U.K.

  • IDC has endorsed 8x8's X Series, saying, "As more organizations digitally transform and focus on the customer experience, adopting an intelligent integrated communications, collaboration and customer engagement solution is the wave of the future."

  • In fact, with X Series, teams can share and connect in more ways than ever. X makes it easy for teams to turn a chat into a phone call, a videoconference or an enterprise-wide collaboration room. More importantly, 8x8 is the only provider in the market today which provides an open-integration approach. With both a native fully integrated team messaging application as well as integration to over 26 different collaboration platforms, including Slack and Stride, this is a powerful differentiator in the collaboration and team messaging marketplace, and we're excited to be on the forefront of this technology offered through our Sameroom solution.

  • Plans are underway to migrate our small-business customers to X Series beginning in our third fiscal quarter. Our mid-market and enterprise customers will follow in future quarters. As you can no doubt tell, we are very excited about the prospect for the X Series.

  • The final point I want to cover is based on time I have recently spent speaking with customers and partners. We hosted user conferences in Silicon Valley, Chicago and London. In New York, we hosted clients, prospects and channel partners at the New York Stock Exchange during our June 19 opening bell ringing. It was an exciting event and a defining moment for 8x8.

  • These meetings create an opportunity for clients to provide testimonials and further personalize their 8x8 experience. Feedback from the event was outstanding, and we're planning to continue these user conferences throughout the year as our learnings will shape future innovations and offerings.

  • Through my conversation with CIOs and VPs of IT, it's become very clear to me that everyone is working towards creating a frictionless communications environment and a better customer engagement experience for their employees and their customers.

  • I continue to hear 4 recurring themes. First, customers require a single system of engagement from the cloud. As workforces evolve remotely and globally, enterprise require a seamless cloud experience across any device. Second, superior voice quality across the globe is table stakes. This includes markets like Southeast Asia, where we have been -- seen competitive wins because other providers have difficulty with international deployments and call quality.

  • Third, clients require an exceptional level of customer service. They are looking for a global partner who can provide 24/7/365 customer support that delivers the right expertise to resolve any issue affecting their employee or customer base.

  • Fourth, there needs to be one source of truth for data. One comprehensive platform with a single communications infrastructure and one set of data, analytics, workflows and applications is imperative.

  • These meetings confirm for me that 8x8 is already at the forefront of seeing what customers want and where technology and other opportunities to serve them are headed. I believe these 4 customer requirements validate our strategic vision and product road map initiatives.

  • These discussions also reaffirm our belief that the investments we have taken over the course of several years have enabled 8x8 to become the only pure cloud provider with owned core technology addressing mid-market and enterprise customer needs for cloud phone, contact center, team messaging, videoconferencing and collaboration. We are uniquely qualified to deliver a unified solution to customers as we continue to disrupt a $40 billion marketplace, which is inflecting to the cloud.

  • Let me close with saying that our decision to invest additional capital in fiscal 2019 to accelerate revenue growth for fiscal 2020 and beyond remains the correct course of action for the company. We continue to invest in talent, product innovation and global expansion to fuel revenue growth, drive brand awareness and deliver exceptional customer and employee engagement experiences to our customers through our X Series. I am proud of the results the company has achieved during the quarter and the successful launch of the X Series. We're excited about the direction we are headed and pleased with our start to the new fiscal year.

  • With that, I'll turn the call over to Mary Ellen.

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Thank you, Vik. I will provide a more detailed review of our first fiscal quarter 2019 financial results according to the new revenue recognition standard, ASC 606. We have adopted ASC 606 starting April 1, 2018, under the modified retrospective method. For certain income statement items, we will also provide the first quarter 2019 results as they would have been under the old standard ASC 605.

  • Reconciliation of ASC 606 and 605 results are included with our earnings press release. In addition, unless otherwise indicated, all measures that follow are non-GAAP with year-over-year comparisons. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results was provided with our earnings press release and PowerPoint presentation deck. As we mentioned during our fourth fiscal quarter earnings conference call, we are deemphasizing selling the stand-alone DXI Contact Now product and continue to expect revenue to decline by approximately 50% in fiscal 2019.

  • First quarter results were a strong start to fiscal 2019. Total revenue was $83.2 million, an increase of 20% year-over-year. Adjusting for constant currency and excluding DXI, total revenue grew 21%. Service revenue was $78.1 million and came in above the high end of our guidance range. Service revenue increased 20% year-over-year and increased 21% year-over-year, adjusting for constant currency and excluding DXI. This represents a sequential improvement in growth of over 100 basis points.

  • Adjusting for constant currency and excluding DXI, service revenue from mid-market and enterprise customers billing greater than $1,000 in monthly recurring revenue grew over 30% and represents 60% of total service revenue. Also, adjusting for constant currency and excluding DXI, service revenue from mid-market and enterprise customers billing greater than $10,000 in monthly recurring revenue grew 58% year-over-year and represents 27% of our total monthly recurring revenue.

  • Gross margin for the quarter was 76.2% compared with 77.8% in the same period last year. Service revenue in the quarter -- service margin -- excuse me, service margin in the quarter was 82.7% compared with 83.9% in the prior year. This was related to the amortization of previously capitalized software, which we telegraphed in our fourth fiscal quarter earnings conference call.

  • Moving on to the operating expenses for the first fiscal quarter. Sales and marketing expenses, which also include customer service and deployment costs, were $49.1 million or 59% of revenue compared with $37.7 million or 55% of revenue in the same year-ago period. As we mentioned last quarter, we're adding sales capacity and increasing demand generation. The impact from ASC 606 was approximately $1.8 million from the capitalization of sales commissions.

  • Research and development expenses were $10.9 million net of capitalized software or 13% of revenue, an increase of 65% year-over-year. We reclassified our product management team into research and development from our sales and marketing expenses, which represented approximately 3% of revenue, and we increased spend to support the development of our new X Series platform.

  • Pretax net loss was $3.4 million and better than our guidance range of $4 million to $5 million net loss. Net loss was $3.5 million or negative $0.04 per share. Cash, restricted cash and investments were $153 million at June 30, 2018, compared with $178 million in the same year-ago period.

  • Cash flow from operating activities was $789,000 in the first fiscal quarter. And capital expenditures, including capitalized software, were approximately $6.3 million in the quarter or 8% of revenue.

  • Turning to key operating metrics. We saw solid improvements during the quarter. The average revenue per mid-market and enterprise customer grew 8% to $4,953 compared with $4,592 in the same year-ago period. Average revenue per business customer was $480 and grew 11% when compared to $432 in the same period a year ago. New monthly recurring revenue booked from mid-market and enterprise customers increased 25% year-over-year and comprised 57% of total bookings in the first quarter.

  • Before reviewing guidance for fiscal 2019, I would like to remind everyone that we do not expect a material difference in our revenue and year-over-year growth rates between ASC 606 and ASC 605. We continue to estimate that our fiscal 2019 non-GAAP operating expenses will be between $11 million and $13 million lower under ASC 606 due to the capitalization of a significant portion of commission expense rather than recording it at the time of sale.

  • The adoption of ASC 606 increased retained earnings as of April 1, 2018, by approximately $40 million due to the capitalization of commissions from prior years. As a reminder, this new standard is an accounting change only and has no impact on our operating or free cash flow.

  • Now moving to our financial outlook. We are reaffirming our financial outlook for the fiscal full year 2019 under ASC 606. Service revenue in the range of $333 million to $338 million, which represents approximately 19% to 21% year-over-year increase. Excluding DXI revenue, service revenue growth will be in the range of approximately 21% to 22%.

  • Total revenue in the range of $347 million to $352 million, representing approximately 17% to 19% year-over-year increase. And we still anticipate our non-GAAP pretax loss in the range of $13 million to $17 million.

  • In addition to full year guidance, the company introduces new quarterly guidance. For the second quarter of 2019, under ASC 606, we expect service revenue in the range of $80 million to $81 million, representing approximately 18% to 19% year-over-year increase. Excluding DXI revenue, we expect service revenue growth in the range of 20% to 21% and our non-GAAP pretax loss in the range of $4 million to $5 million.

  • I'll add some additional color to help with the models for the full fiscal year. We expect non-GAAP gross margins to be approximately 77%. We plan to run a pilot program in the current second fiscal quarter that should reduce phone subsidies in the second half of the year, thereby improving gross margins. We expect non-GAAP operating expenses as a percentage of revenue to be approximately 82% to 83%. We expect research and development expenses, net of capitalized software, as a percentage of revenue, to be approximately 14%.

  • We expect sales and marketing expenses, net of ASC 606 commission credits, as a percentage of revenue, to be approximately 58% to 59%. As a reminder, our sales and marketing expense includes customer support, professional services and deployment.

  • We expect general and administrative expense as a percentage of revenue to be approximately 10%. We expect interest income as a percentage of revenue to be slightly less than 1%. We estimate our tax expense to be closer to approximately $100,000 each quarter. Due to the full valuation allowance against deferred tax assets, our tax expense reflects the current cash taxes in certain U.S. states and foreign jurisdictions.

  • In summary, we are very pleased with our first quarter performance. We're executing on our fiscal 2019 plan, and we remain focused on our goal of 25% exit service revenue growth, excluding DXI revenue, in the fiscal fourth quarter of 2019. In addition, we continue to make investments to enable accelerated growth into fiscal 2020 and beyond.

  • With that, operator, we are ready for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Will Power with Baird.

  • Charles Erlikh - Junior Analyst

  • This is actually Charlie Erlikh on for Will. Congrats on the solid results. This is just the question would be, any early feedback on the X Series? What are you hearing from customers and kind of how that transition's going? And is there any potential for sales disruption there? Any comments there would help.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • So one, the feedback has been extremely positive. And as you know, it's been multiyears in the making. All forms of communication is converging. So voice, video, tech, contact center, collaboration, everything all coming together. And then this stairway to heaven, where you can literally go from X1 through X8, is something customers really like. And the ability to then promote and or demote depending on the needs of the customer is something that I think is going to be game changing. We don't anticipate any disruption, per se, because it has been a natural evolution of how we've kind of migrated our products from initially what they were to additions to X Series. X became generally available in July of '17 this quarter. And again, I actually think that is the core platform that we will continue to build towards. That's what we've been working towards.

  • Charles Erlikh - Junior Analyst

  • Okay, great. And then just one more from me. That 25% mid-market enterprise bookings number, really solid. Good to see that. And is that something that can accelerate further? And how do you think about comps going forward for that item?

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Yes. We do expect that we will see acceleration in our mid-market bookings beyond the 25% as we continue through this fiscal year and beyond. We won't actually set a number, but again, this is -- there's 3 things that we're completely focused on for our exit 25% growth rate. One is new MRR bookings. Two is retention rates. And three is time to revenue. Those are the 3 key factors that we're focusing on, and we have a detailed plan in place, which will help us achieve our goal of approximately 25% in the fourth fiscal quarter.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Tim Horan with Oppenheimer.

  • Timothy Kelly Horan - MD and Senior Analyst

  • With the X Series and the new bundles, I know it's early, but do you have any indication of what people like about them, what they're using them, maybe a little bit more of what features are surprising you? Should this drive up ARPU per customer just as you think about the mix issues?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Yes. So a couple of things. One, we are finding, as I said, I think this has been something we've been working towards for a long time. We will find the same customer, depending on the type of user, will get different versions of X. So you may have the reception as to whether an X2 or an X4 -- engineering team, which wants videoconferencing may have an X4. The customer support department may have an X8. The IT help desk will have an X6. And the ability to seamlessly integrate between all of them, we're finding, is something that customers are really gravitating to. The other game-changing thing that we have done is this ability to basically connect with all the industry-leading collaboration tools that are out there, like Slack and Stride and basically "bring everybody" into the Sameroom. So that's been one of the key things from X that I think people have really gravitated to. The next thing that people have gravitated to is this concept of a common data model. So in essence, you have one platform where every real time interaction that happens in a company, every voice, every video, every text, every call recording, to customers, partners, vendors, other employees, is all available and available in the form where you can create dashboards that are basically available to management to basically go in and improve operations. Those 2 things are the 2 drivers that we have seen for X where people have really found that this has disruptive capabilities.

  • Timothy Kelly Horan - MD and Senior Analyst

  • And do you think this will drive up overall spending per seat?

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • We don't know that yet, to be honest. It's still early days. Our ARPU per customer is growing quite nicely. That's an indication of, a, we're winning larger and larger customers; and two, is our customers continue to add-on business. About 48% of our new monthly recurring revenue is coming from our existing customers. And we would expect that to continue. But too early to tell you whether X Series in and of itself will increase the ARPU, but we would expect again that there is a path for them to continue to upsell, and then that would increase ARPU over time.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Yes, we would not model -- if I were you, Tim, I would not model an increase in ARPU. But over time, it's logical that you will start to go up because you're making it easy through the stairway of heaven for people to be able to add additional capabilities. You may suddenly find more and more people want videoconferencing built in, so it's a very natural progression to go from X2 to X4 and also the ability to start upselling because you have so many of those same capabilities available for every function in the company. So we do see possibilities, and we do anticipate that happening, but we shouldn't model that just yet.

  • Timothy Kelly Horan - MD and Senior Analyst

  • And then lastly on the collaboration integration. Is there any degradation of quality or usage for customers? How's the user experience?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Phenomenal. I mean, that is something -- it allows you to basically ensure -- we have certain vendors, for example, that may be using Slack. They are now able to integrate with our team here using our X2 or X4, and it's completely seamless because everything is "available in the Sameroom." And so the Slack interaction as well as the interactions that happen within our X Series all become available in the Sameroom, and it's completely seamless.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from George Sutton with Craig-Hallum.

  • George Frederick Sutton - Partner, Co-Director of Research & Senior Research Analyst

  • Vik, I wondered if you could be a little more specific on a couple of things. You mentioned strong early returns from the spending, and you mentioned increased velocity with the channel. I just wondered if you could be more specific.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • I think you're starting to see -- look, let's start with a few quick metrics, right. So a number of channel enablement partners. We're north of 125. Channel bookings, north of 50% -- well north of 50% increase. 7 out of our top-10 deals came from the channel versus 3 out of top-10 deals from channel in quarter 4. New monthly recurring revenue from mid-market and enterprise customers, up to 25%. So when you look, everything is up and to the right, and it's continuing to kind of evolve in the right direction. And then as I said, the X, the reaction has been extremely positive. So a lot of the piece parts that we have been putting together over the years are finally all starting to come together. And you're seeing it reflected in all the new logos we're winning. You're seeing it in the fact that we're having the ability to basically upsell. And candidly, you're seeing it in our ability to hire world-class talent just across the board. So from that perspective, I'm feeling better and better about the business.

  • George Frederick Sutton - Partner, Co-Director of Research & Senior Research Analyst

  • Just curious, Google yesterday put out this contact center AI, had a very long list of partners. You were not on that list. And I'm curious -- there's probably a story behind that and it may be related to your integrated contact center with a unified communications platform. But just curious.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Look, Google is an awesome company, and we're working closely with them. We're a technology alliance partner. There's some -- a lot of the Google AI stuff is very tightly integrated with the stuff we're doing on our AIML. Stay tuned. There'll be a lot of very interesting things we will be talking about with Google over the next few months.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Matt Van Vliet with Stifel.

  • Matthew David Van Vliet - Associate

  • I guess, jumping into the last question there, could you talk a little bit about what the most recent acquisition of MarianaIQ is expected to contribute to the platform and when we should expect to see some more advanced features in there relative to that acquisition but also how that can build in with other tech partners out there?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Yes, now that's a great question. Look, MarianaIQ is a phenomenal group of folks. We've been very impressed with their capabilities. They add this whole buyer persona context. And what you are able to do is, by having all the information of whoever is calling in and being able to have a complete buyer persona, you get a very complete picture, and your response can be tailored to that. You'll start to see, over the next 2 quarters, very interesting applications where you'll be able to show value of why having one integrated platform along with this AIML makes a difference and can be very significant for corporations. So you'll start to see it, as I said, over the next couple, 3 quarters. But more and more, that's why we built X Series. X Series is the aggregation of all the data of any real time interactions in a company. Now you start to add in context as well as personas, suddenly it becomes extremely powerful. That's essentially the vision of the company, and that's what we've been working towards.

  • Matthew David Van Vliet - Associate

  • And then -- you've obviously announced quite a few large deals this quarter and a lot of good bookings momentum here. As you book customers just over the last few weeks of the quarter knowing that the X Series was coming mid-July, will those customers just go ahead and implement on the X Series? Or have they bought the additions product, and sort of over time, they'll have to migrate even now?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • So if they are new, starting -- I mean, depending upon when the deployment is starting, a lot of the new logos are already starting to implement on the X Series. The additions migration is going to be relatively seamless to the X Series. That's what we've been working towards. But going forward, the majority of new customers are going onboard on the X Series right from the getgo. And a lot of the customers that came onboard towards the end of last quarter are going to be deployed on the X Series.

  • Matthew David Van Vliet - Associate

  • And then lastly, just a follow-up on that question. How long do you think it'll take your existing customer base to eventually move to the X Series so that you're just supporting sort of that one platform?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • So it'll start to happen over the next 12 to 18 months. And I think most of it will be -- most of the effort will be for the smaller customers. The idea is to make it completely seamless for our customers. And that's why we have done this as a 2-step process, where we started off with additions which was a very significant change. And then we've done X Series, which brings all of these various technologies together. So there's a long-term plan. We'll start executing -- I think already started migrating some customers, and we'll start executing our small-business customers over the next quarter. And then subsequent quarters, we'll start to migrate all our mid-market and enterprise customers. But over the next 12 to 18 months, there will be one platform, all X.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Dmitry Netis with William Blair.

  • Dmitry G. Netis - Equity Research Analyst

  • So I've got a couple of questions. On the service revenue, you're guiding for roughly 18%, 19% growth. That's actually down from Q1 when you delivered 20%. Your mid-market bookings are accelerating, which is good to see, to 25%. So what I'm trying to see is, if you could help us reconcile why you aren't seeing a bigger ramp in service revenue. Is there something with the bookings revenue conversion that's just not there yet? Or when will we see sort of service revenue kind of match your bookings growth in the mid-market enterprise? And maybe the secondary part of that is, if you could add to this SMB side of the business and what the bookings growth is in that side of the business that maybe help us kind of square away the difference here.

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Okay, Dmitry. So basically, we have reaffirmed our guidance for the full year. So there's going to be some fluctuations from quarter-to-quarter, normal course of business. We're not expecting anything unusual. But again, there are going to always be fluctuations. One of the things that we are absolutely working on is time to revenue, and we're not going to start to see that in the next -- over the next couple of quarters because that's a key initiative for us. And as we have mentioned in the past, we do expect acceleration to really kick in, in the second half of the year. I think we've been pretty consistent with that forecast.

  • Dmitry G. Netis - Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay. I'm just raising the question because you have spent quite a bit to try to drive this acceleration through. But I mean, I guess, it's not showing yet in the service revenue side of the business.

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Well, actually -- actually, I think it is showing. I mean, it did show this quarter. For instance, our service revenue on a constant currency without DXI is up 21% compared to 20% last quarter. So we are up 100 basis points quarter-over-quarter, more than 100 basis points. Also, if you look at our core business, take out the micro, which we say -- we've been saying we're not investing in it anymore, and take out the DXI, which is, of course, continuing to decline at a rate of approximately 50%, our core business today is growing at greater than 25% year-over-year. So there is definitely some acceleration in the business, and we would expect to continue to see acceleration. On the small-business side, we don't actually disclose the bookings, as you know. But our small business is continuing to perform. Last quarter, we showed a 300 basis points year-over-year improvement in growth. We're pleased to announce that we're continuing -- not at 300 basis points, but we're continuing at that same rate of revenue growth for the 10 to 99 sector -- segment. And oh, by the way, that team is, in fact, moving up and executing extremely -- and they're starting to close deals over the phone from 100 up to 250 seats now. I think that we are accelerating, Dmitry. And again, we're reaffirming our full year guidance. And we're putting all the pieces together. We have a detailed plan, and we're executing to that plan.

  • Dmitry G. Netis - Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay. Maybe just remind us what the DXI contribution was this quarter versus last year's period. My expectation or my estimate is somewhere in the $3 million sort of range, so about 750k a quarter last year. And then you said, it's going down about 50% in fiscal '19. Is that fair assumption?

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • No. So what we had talked about last quarter was that in last year, in our fiscal '18, we were actually running approximately $2 million per quarter. So a year-ago quarter, in our first fiscal quarter, we were at $1.9 million. And we're expecting a 50% decline year-over-year, so we're running last -- this particular quarter was an average -- was approximately $1 million. So we are exactly on that 1 -- 50% decline year-over-year, and we would expect that to continue. And by our fourth fiscal quarter, it may be de minimis.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Josh Nichols with B. Riley.

  • Michael Joshua Nichols - Senior Analyst of Discovery Group

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  • Operating leverage and spend beyond this fiscal year as you look to maintain that 25% level service revenue growth rate.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Josh, I don't think we heard your question.

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Yes, your first part of the question was cut off.

  • Michael Joshua Nichols - Senior Analyst of Discovery Group

  • Sorry. So what I said was, obviously, this is the year of investment. But beyond that, how should we think about the operating leverage and the operating spend as the company tries to achieve and maintain this 25% service revenue growth rate as far as the operating leverage inherent in the model?

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Okay. So we do expect that the 25% is not the end goal. We're really investing to accelerate revenue growth beyond 25%. We're seeing the 25% as a milestone, but our goals go beyond the 25%. And some of our key initiatives this year are truly to build the pipeline to execute and accelerate growth into fiscal 2020. We don't expect to see leverage right away. I would expect to see leverage. We're not going to obviously give guidance at this point in time for 2020 or '21, but I wouldn't expect to focus on leverage until fiscal year 2021 or towards the end of fiscal '20.

  • Michael Joshua Nichols - Senior Analyst of Discovery Group

  • And then international revenue is only a small piece right now, but there's some good opportunities to grow that. How do you see that evolving over the next couple years as a percentage of revenue?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Yes -- no, actually, I think it's around 10%-or-so right now. And I anticipate it will continue to grow from there. You're seeing some of these very interesting, very large wins all over the world. And as I said, I think we have a differentiated solution. X resonates globally, and we're now getting the right methodology together so you can go country by country. We're already, as you know, in Australia, U.K., Canada, France, and the intent is to continue building on that and continue to evolve that over time, but international is a significant opportunity for us.

  • Michael Joshua Nichols - Senior Analyst of Discovery Group

  • And then just hitting on a previous question from a slightly different angle. So service revenue growth Q1 and then the guide for Q2 is at 20%. What other specific offerings -- or what do you think is going to drive that 500 bps of service revenue growth over the next 2 quarters specifically?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • X Series and primarily mid-market enterprise, but I think it's -- to me, it's steady as she goes. I mean, we've got a plan in place. You've kind of seen a certain baseline. DXI, we have decided to basically end-of-life that product and, over time, migrate all of that away. But step by step, we're kind of moving forward toward just X Series and greater adoption. The entire industry is inflecting to cloud, and we have a very differentiated solution.

  • Michael Joshua Nichols - Senior Analyst of Discovery Group

  • And then last question from me is whenever I'm looking at this -- you mentioned in response to my previous question that 25% service revenue growth was just a near-term target, but you're looking to accelerate well past that. I believe, I guess, it's fair to say that, based on the company's investment we're seeing this year and transition from positive earnings to burning cash, that continues to be the priority, and the company is willing to stay on that track and potentially accelerate the cash burn?

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Yes. Actually, I would say yes. We're in a very unique situation, as Vik has mentioned before. No one else has a package like we do from a technology perspective. We have been innovating over a number of years, and others are beginning to follow. We've had the vision, and others are beginning to follow. We are in a -- the market is inflecting. It's a $40 billion market. It's less than 10% penetrated. We find ourselves in a very strong position right now. We're taking the friction out of the UCaaS and the CCaaS. It's becoming one: one system of engagement, one system of intelligence. And like we mentioned on the call, we think it's a game changer, an absolute game changer. This is a real opportunity for 8x8, and we're uniquely positioned to capture that, and we have a strong team in place, and we're going to go for it.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley.

  • Meta A. Marshall - VP

  • I just wanted to see if you could talk about kind of traction with the channel this quarter and adding partners and whether you're starting to see kind of a shortening of time to meaningful revenue or just kind of any metrics on getting the channel up to speed. And then maybe second, just should we expect any meaningful gross margin difference by X Series? Or are you guys really impartial to kind of whatever the customer decides -- opts for?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • So I'll answer it. So I'll do the second one first. Second one, no change. X has been anticipated and then planned for a while, so no change on margin or any other perspective. We do see an opportunity to upsell but no real material change. Channel's definitely accelerating. And you can just see it in just the pure growth rate in channel. And let's just say, it was meaningfully bigger than 50% from last quarter. Even just the channel enablement partners, we're now already up to 125 just this quarter. I think we were at 80-something last quarter. Bill Corbin and his team, I mean, we have literally built out the entire team over the course. Bill joined us, I think, mid-April. And his core team has already been built out. I was actually at their off-site just yesterday. So you're starting to see quite a bit of acceleration. And to some extent, we have been -- I think channel partners are waking to the fact that we have a very differentiated solution. And X makes it very easy for them to sell both UCaaS and CCaaS without all the complexities of having to do contact centers, so we feel channel is going to be huge for us. And we've been very happy with the traction there. And we will be investing significantly in the channel.

  • Meta A. Marshall - VP

  • I guess, maybe just a follow-up on that. I mean, you gave the stat of 7 of the top 10 deals kind of came from the channel. Are any of those partners that were added in the last year or just something to kind of give a sense of the new channel partners versus kind of the mature channel would be helpful.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Yes, I think it's a mix. I think several of them were added in the last probably year. So we're seeing actually the larger channel partners coming onboard are actually coming in with deals already in mind that they are bringing us to the table on. And so, from that perspective, we have definitely seen the newer channel partners start to contribute. And I think, most recently, this recognition by AVANT, that they see significant opportunities with us, and we're the easiest to do business with. It's a focus on the channel that we have done over the last few quarters that I think is going to start to bear huge fruit for us going forward.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Nikolay Beliov with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

  • Sui Ying Cheong - Analyst

  • This is actually Jacqueline on for Nikolay. So my first question is to get to the 25% revenue growth rate exiting fiscal '19, how should we think about the new MRR growth rate during the remainder of the year?

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Yes, as I had mentioned earlier, we had some very nice acceleration between Q4 and Q1 as we had expected. We expect that, that number will continue to accelerate. I don't want to necessarily put a number out there, but again, there's 3 ways that we're -- that we have very detailed plans in place that we're executing to. And that is, of course, on the new MRR side. There's no question about that, an acceleration on the bookings quarter-over-quarter. Also, as I had mentioned earlier, retention, retention, retention. That's huge for SaaS companies. And we're doing very well on that front. And last but not least is time to revenue, right. So the sooner that we can get the system deployed and up and running and billable, the better for us. And we're working on a number of initiatives to that end as well. So those are the 3 key focuses that we have that'll get us to the 25%.

  • Sui Ying Cheong - Analyst

  • Got it. And in terms of -- how are hiring plans progressing in regards to the 30% headcount increase announced last quarter?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Right on target. We're getting Amelia Generalis, who runs our HR. She's phenomenal. She's hired top talent in terms of recruiting. We actually even have an onboarding session where we do a monthly onboarding where, as part of people being onboarded, we had dinner at my house where we have all our new hires go through orientation and then make a presentation to management. If this thing continues, I may need a new house, but we've been averaging between 60 and 70 people all coming onboard. So yes, and we're getting some amazing people. So that's on track. As Mary Ellen indicated the 3 core things that we're talking about: bookings is accelerating; retention is getting better; as well as time to revenue is coming down. So it's a step-by-step approach.

  • Sui Ying Cheong - Analyst

  • Awesome. That sounds good. And then maybe if I could ask the last one. How has the Sameroom integration progressed in -- does -- do you see it opening new opportunities?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Absolutely. That is such a core thing to X because, if you think about it, X to us is the combination of voice, video, text, chat, contact center and collaboration. And then the key part of collaboration is you have a native collaboration where you basically have the ability to do team messaging and just general chat rooms and persistent rooms, but you also have the ability to integrate to 26 other collaboration engine and ensure that whatever is happening in that other collaboration engine, as long as it gave you permission, can all come to one persistent chat room. That's huge. In essence, what you've done is you've said somebody can be on Slack, somebody can be on Stride. Somebody's on 8x8, and you can combine it all together so you have one common room which communicates between all 3 and allows everybody to see chats going on in all 3. That is a phenomenally great technology, and we're very pleased we acquired those guys.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Chase Bunnell with Dougherty.

  • Chase Bunnell

  • This is Chase on for Catharine Trebnick. And we just had a quick question about your channel partners. We're wondering how you guys are planning to continue to drive further acceleration in sales through your channel partners and how you plan on kind of improving productivity with each channel partner?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Yes, great question. Look, in the end, channel is something we've been doing, but I think the general genesis was, if you're going to really go big in channel, you get world-class talent. We've brought in world-class talent that has done this before, and the team, as I said, got assembled. We're putting big emphasis on enablement. And in essence, what you're seeing, is there's a whole series of programs that we're putting in place that will allow us to accelerate with the channel partners, but it's primarily about the fact that we've brought onboard very quickly a completely big channel team from some of the best-known companies that do channel and put them all together and melded them all together, I think, which will bear huge fruit for us going forward.

  • Chase Bunnell

  • Perfect. And last one is on your international revenue, what portion of that is contributed by channel partners currently?

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • I think it's relative -- I mean, there -- it's growing actually quite significantly because what we are finding is we have a combination of direct and channel approaches to international. We're finding that the channel in international is growing significantly faster than direct. And so over time, we expect that our international play is going to be more and more channel, and we'll be able to basically support them with 8x8 resources, but it's going to be primarily channel.

  • Mary Ellen P. Genovese - CFO & Secretary

  • Yes. And in Asia right now, especially Australia, things are really starting to happen. We're seeing some significant growth in our channel partners bringing us more and more deals. As a matter of fact, we're really accelerating mid-market enterprise deals in the Australia area. But we're having success in France, which we just launched and, of course, the U.K., And then there's multinationals throughout the world that continue to grow in other countries.

  • Operator

  • This concludes the Q&A session for the conference. I now like to turn it back to Vik Verma for any closing remarks.

  • Vikram Verma - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, everybody, for taking the time to listen in to our earnings call. I do want to -- it's been a very strong quarter, and I'm very pleased with our progress towards our fiscal FY '19 targets. I do want to take this opportunity to thank all of our employees. We have about 1,200 awesome people that come every day and make a difference. In the end, what I always say is people make companies, and we're very fortunate to have some of the very best. Thank you again and look forward to seeing several of you at upcoming conferences over the next few months.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.