奎斯特診斷 (DGX) 2016 Q2 法說會逐字稿

完整原文

使用警語:中文譯文來源為 Google 翻譯,僅供參考,實際內容請以英文原文為主

  • Operator

  • Welcome to the Quest Diagnostics second-quarter 2016 conference call.

  • At the request of the Company this call is being recorded.

  • The entire contents of the call, including the presentation and question-and-answer session that will follow, are the copyrighted property of Quest Diagnostics with all rights reserved.

  • Any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call in any form without express written consent of Quest Diagnostics is strictly prohibited.

  • Now I would like to introduce Shawn Bevec, Executive Director of Investor Relations for Quest Diagnostics.

  • Go ahead please.

  • Shawn Bevec - Executive Director of IR

  • Thank you, and good morning.

  • I'm here with Steve Rusckowski, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Guinan, our Chief Financial Officer.

  • During this call we may make forward-looking statements and also discuss non-GAAP measures.

  • For this call references to adjusted EPS refer to adjusted diluted EPS excluding amortization.

  • Actual results may differ materially from those projected.

  • Risks and uncertainties that may affect Quest Diagnostics' future results include, but are not limited to, those described in Quest Diagnostics' 2015 annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and current reports on Form 8-K.

  • The text of our prepared remarks and a PowerPoint presentation will be available later today in the Investor Relations page of our website.

  • Now here is Steve Rusckowski.

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Thanks, Shawn, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today.

  • This morning we will provide you with highlights of the quarter, share a few comments on industry dynamics and review progress on our five-point strategy.

  • Then Mark will provide more detail on the results and take you through guidance.

  • During the second quarter revenues declined 1% on a reported basis related to our efforts to refocus the business, but grew 2.4% on an equivalent basis.

  • Reported EPS grew more than 69% while adjusted EPS grew more than 7%.

  • Before I get into our strategy update I would like to provide perspective on a few key aspects of the final rule implementing provisions of the Protecting Access to Medicare Act, referred to as PAMA, issued late last month by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services referred to as CMS.

  • First on the issue of timing, we are pleased with CMS' decision to delay the implementation of the new payment system until January 1, 2018, a position advocated by members of Congress, hospitals and hospital -- excuse me, and laboratory trade associations.

  • Second, CMS changed its approach to secure a better view of market pricing.

  • By gathering the pricing data from labs in a different way CMS will increase the number of labs that provide pricing data.

  • And finally, we continue to evaluate the impact of this final rule, but we won't have a clear view until we see the final pricing data.

  • In the meantime CMS is estimating a mid-single-digit rate reduction in 2018.

  • As you know, the clinical lab fee schedule represents approximately 12% of our revenues.

  • As we have shared in the past, our Invigorate savings have more than compensated for price headwinds in the market.

  • So, if there is a fee reduction in 2018 we would be able to manage it.

  • Now let me shift to the progress we are making on our five-point strategy, which as you recall is to restore growth, drive operational excellence, simplify the organization, refocus on our Diagnostic Information Services business and deliver disciplined capital deployment.

  • So starting with growth, we delivered solid volume growth across a number of areas including prescription drug monitoring, hepatitis C testing and Cardio IQ, which provides a more complete picture of patients' cardiovascular health than basic cholesterol testing.

  • We also grew in the second quarter with help from our new hospital service agreements.

  • Our acquisition of the Outreach Laboratory Services business of Clinical Laboratory Partners, referred to as CLP, and Professional Lab Services Agreements from Barnabas Health, are helping us deliver the continued execution of our accelerated growth plan.

  • Additionally in this quarter we announced an agreement to manage the inpatient laboratory operations for six Denver area hospitals in HealthONE system of HCA Healthcare.

  • We expect to see revenues from this engagement before the end of the year.

  • Hospitals continue to talk to us about how we can help them execute their lab strategy, from advanced hospital reference testing to lab management to joint ventures and outreach lab purchases.

  • Our pipeline remains strong and we continue to be encouraged by the growth opportunities.

  • In advanced testing we strengthened our service offering which includes gene-based and esoteric tests.

  • During the quarter we announced ability we have three new Quest Vantage cancer tests.

  • These are designed to provide clinical actionable insight into an individual's risk of developing hereditary forms of cancer.

  • These new offerings will better position us in this exciting and growing marketplace.

  • We piloted a program this quarter for noninvasive prenatal screening to serve women of average risk in select regions.

  • Encouraged by the results, we are now offering the testing nationally.

  • We continue to drive operational excellence, the second element of our strategy.

  • We believe quality and efficiency go hand in hand.

  • And we have strong evidence of demonstrated improvement in our customer experience as we make our business more efficient.

  • As we deliver cost savings we are also able to improve quality and service.

  • This is a well understood principle of total quality management approaches across all industries.

  • Evidence of this can be seen in a recent independent blinded survey of more than 500 physicians.

  • In the survey Quest scored highest on customer experience, lab effectiveness and patient satisfaction among national, regional and hospital competitors.

  • Our recent agreement with Safeway will make it easier for people to get tested by locating our patient service centers in high-traffic Safeway supermarkets.

  • By expanding patient access through our relationships with retailers we will optimize our real estate footprint and have an opportunity to reduce the number of unfulfilled test orders, which some suggest could be as high as 30%.

  • We are also shrinking our real estate footprint by consolidating our corporate sites.

  • In June we announced the relocation of our corporate headquarters and support functions from Madison and Lyndhurst, New Jersey to a single location when our current 10-year lease expires in September of 2017.

  • By consolidating our footprint we will be able to get greater collaboration and performance while realizing savings in operating expenses.

  • Our Invigorate cost savings program continues on track to realize $1.3 billion in run rate savings as we exit 2017.

  • We continue to simplify and strengthen our organizational capabilities, the third element of our strategy.

  • Also this quarter we were proud to be recognized as one of 100 companies named to Forbes 2016 America's Most Trustworthy Companies list, the only Company from the diagnostic services industry to be included.

  • The fourth element of our strategy, to refocus our Diagnostic Information Services business, was completed in May following the completion of the sale of the Focus Diagnostics products business.

  • Proceeds from the sale of Focus products were used to drive the fifth element of our strategy, delivering disciplined capital deployment.

  • We launched a $250 million accelerated share repurchase program, ASR, with our Focus proceeds and since 2012 we have repurchased approximately $2 billion of Company stock.

  • Additionally, in May we issued $500 million in debt to take advantage of favorable interest rates and refinance a portion of our debt.

  • We actually look forward to sharing more detail on our market views and strategic outlook at our third Investor Day in New York City on November 11.

  • So, mark your calendars and we will be providing more data about this as time goes on.

  • Now Mark will provide an overview on our second-quarter financial performance and provide you with an update on our 2016 outlook.

  • Mark?

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Thanks, Steve.

  • Starting with revenues, consolidated revenues of $1.91 billion were lower by 1% versus the prior year on a reported basis.

  • Equivalent revenues grew 2.4% for the Company.

  • Revenues for Diagnostic Information Services, or DIS for short, grew by 2.2% compared to the prior year.

  • Volume measured by the number of requisitions increased 1.9% versus the prior year.

  • Of the 1.9%, approximately half came from organic growth and the other half from recent acquisitions including both CLP and MemorialCare.

  • Through the first half of 2016 organic volume is up nearly 2%, a solid increase compared to the slight decline reported in the first half of 2015.

  • Revenue per requisition in the second quarter increased 0.2% versus a year ago.

  • As a reminder, a number of different elements impact revenue per [req] including unit price variation, business mix and test per req.

  • Price headwinds were in line with our expectations, down slightly less than 1%.

  • As we noted last quarter, our Professional Lab Services, or PLS, engagement such as Barnabas Health and HCA carry lower revenue per requisition due to the nature of the work we are performing.

  • In Q2 2016 the year-over-year impact of growth in PLS was approximately 120 basis points on our aggregate revenue per req.

  • In the second quarter PLS was a larger mix of our business.

  • As we move through the year we expect PLS to grow at a faster rate than the balance of our business.

  • Reported operating income for the quarter was $422 million or 22.1% of revenues compared to $301 million or 15.6% of revenues a year ago.

  • On an adjusted basis operating income was $324 million or 17% of revenues compared to $321 million or 16.7% of revenues last year.

  • Adjusted operating income benefited from stronger revenues and our Invigorate initiative slightly offset by lower margins related to recent acquisitions, our growing professional lab services business and our efforts to refocus the Company.

  • The impact of our clinical trials and products businesses in the second quarter of 2015 benefited adjusted operating margins by approximately $15 million.

  • As a reminder, the clinical trials business now appears on the equity earnings line.

  • Also we no longer have operating earnings associated with the Focus products business and recall that we use the proceeds to repurchase shares.

  • In total our portfolio divestitures represented $169 million of revenues that were excluded to get to our equivalent revenues for 2015.

  • Reported EPS was $1.37 in the quarter compared to $0.81 a year ago.

  • The significant year-over-year increase was driven in large part by the gain on the sale of our Focus Diagnostics products business in the second quarter and charges on retirement of debt in the prior year.

  • Adjusted EPS was $1.34, up from $1.25 last year.

  • The Company recorded special items with an after tax benefits totaling $17 million in the quarter representing a $34 million gain on the sale of the Focus products business offset by approximately $17 million of primarily restructuring and integration charges.

  • The net impact of these items increased our reported EPS by $0.12.

  • Bad debt expense as a percentage of revenues was 4.2%, 40 basis points better than the previous quarter and 10 basis points higher than 2015.

  • As a reminder, bad debt expense typically improves modestly throughout the year as patients hit their health insurance deductibles.

  • Note that the year-over-year compare is negatively impacted by the fact that our clinical trials and products businesses had a lower associated bad debt rate.

  • When taking this into consideration our bad debt rate year-over-year improved slightly.

  • Our DSOs were 47 days, 3 days higher than last year and the prior quarter.

  • This is driven by the timing of certain cash receipts and we expect our DSOs to come down to levels similar to the prior year by the end of Q3.

  • Through the first half of 2016 reported cash provided by operations was $464 million versus $337 million last year.

  • Excluding charges associated with early debt retirement in the first half of 2016, and debt refinancing in the first half of 2015, adjusted operating cash flow was $502 million through June 30 in 2016, up from $464 million in 2015.

  • Capital expenditures were $104 million in the first off compared to $117 million a year ago.

  • Before moving to guidance I would like to mention a few items for you to keep in mind to help you understand our outlook for the remainder of the year.

  • First, the year-over-year impact of the contribution of our clinical trials business to the Q Squared JV on our reported revenues ended in the second quarter of 2016.

  • Recall this transaction commenced at the beginning of our third-quarter 2015.

  • Second, for the Celera products business that we wound down toward the end of last year, we recognized nearly half of the 2015 revenues and operating earnings for this business in the third quarter of 2015 as customers executed their last time buy.

  • This will set up a difficult compare in the third quarter this year.

  • As you think about the split for the remainder of the year, last year we had approximately $10 million on a reported basis and $12 million on an adjusted basis of Celera products operating income in Q3 and nothing in Q4.

  • Finally, there are two notable items on our full-year reported operating cash flow projections.

  • The first relates to after-tax cash charges of $29 million from the retirement of debt that will impact 2016 operating cash flow.

  • Second, we will incur a cash tax outlay of $91 million associated with the Focus divestiture that will recorded in our operating cash flow despite recognizing the associated $275 million from the sale in our investing cash flow.

  • Therefore, our adjusted operating cash flow for 2016 will exclude both items.

  • Having noted these items, our 2016 outlook is as follows.

  • Revenues to be between $7.47 billion and $7.54 billion, flat to an increase of approximately 1% versus the prior year on a reported basis and an increase of 2% to 3% on an equivalent basis.

  • Reported diluted EPS to be between $4.18 and $4.33; adjusted EPS to be between $5.02 and $5.17.

  • Cash provided by operations to be approximately $880 million on a reported basis and roughly $1 billion on an adjusted basis.

  • And finally capital expenditures to be between $250 million and $300 million.

  • Now let me turn it back to Steve.

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Thanks, Mark.

  • Well, to summarize, we built on our good start in 2016 with another solid performance in the second quarter.

  • Revenues grew by more than 2% on an equivalent basis, adjusted EPS grew more than 7%.

  • We continue to generate strong cash from operations and we remain on track to meet our commitments for the remainder of the year.

  • Now we would be happy to take any questions.

  • Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Brian Tanquilut, Jefferies.

  • Brian Tanquilut - Analyst

  • On the hospital JVs, I know that is something that you alluded to a little bit earlier in your prepared remarks.

  • What are you seeing in the landscape in the hospitals now?

  • And how do you envision this joint venture with HCA in terms of the opportunity set or the receptivity of HCA and other for-profit hospitals to expand into a similar kind of strategy?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Well, a couple points, Brian.

  • Thanks for the question.

  • First, of all as I mentioned in my remarks, the interest of hospital CDOs, CFOs and their teams who work with us on their lab strategy is growing, evidenced with what we did with Hartford Hospital and their CLP laboratory.

  • Matter of fact, I was just up there last week meeting with the CEO and he with my team, and once we engage and we have [established] a relationship I would say the relationship continues to grow and we are their strategic partner for Diagnostic Information Services.

  • The same continues to grow at Barnabas, we feel good about the progress made there and it continues to expand.

  • And then you asked a question about HCA, HCA is not a joint venture, it is a contract.

  • It's an agreement that we are helping them run their inpatient laboratories.

  • And we are hopeful that that will go well and could potentially provide us with more opportunities going forward, but one step at a time.

  • Our job right now is to do a good job at the Denver area in this division and we take it from there.

  • So, this continues to be a growth prospect for us, we have been focused on it for a number of years, as you know, and we are starting to see it our results.

  • Brian Tanquilut - Analyst

  • And then, Steve, you alluded to the Safeway arrangement.

  • So, how should we think about the rationalization of the platform?

  • Is that -- or the PSCs?

  • I mean, is that something that is baked in a way into the Invigorate guidance?

  • Or is that going to be an incremental opportunity to reduce cost you shift some of your PSDs into Safeway?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • Well first of all, there is three aspects of the work we have done with retailers, and Safeway is a good example.

  • First of all is the group of patient experience.

  • You've seen (inaudible) Safeway clinics or healthcare centers, they are very nice.

  • And so, it provides a really nice fresh patient experience for our patients.

  • So we are pleased with that.

  • So again, it goes hand-in-hand with our strategy around improving quality and patient experience and at the same time becoming more efficient.

  • And on the efficiency side we are looking at where these stores are, where we have patient service centers.

  • And where possible we will optimize that and take some cost out.

  • But in some cases we are also augmenting our unparalleled access to the marketplace with some of their locations.

  • So it actually allows us to get greater access.

  • When we think this market, to the last point I made on my introductory remarks, it is quite important for us to continue to get more and more access for patients where they are, and retail has a great opportunity for us to continue to get more and more access.

  • Because the data we have is about 30% of laboratory requisitions in the marketplace go unfulfilled.

  • And so, our notion is (inaudible) more access, make it more convenient, make it easy for people to go and get the laboratory requisitions fulfilled, it is going to be better for healthcare and it is going to be better for this industry.

  • So that is our strategy.

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Yes, I just want to add in, Brian, that as Steve pointed out, this is not just a cost play.

  • And certainly we believe that it is an opportunity to grow our business faster by making our sites more accessible, making things more convenient, making it a more positive experience.

  • But in terms of your other question around Invigorate, you can imagine that this -- our retail strategy is going to work through over time.

  • So at this point we have only given guidance on Invigorate through the end of 2017.

  • Obviously at some point we will give an update beyond then.

  • So we have got multiyear leases in many cases for our patient service centers.

  • We are not going to dilute our volume and add a lot of incremental sites, so really this is largely going to be replacing patient service centers.

  • So it is not going to be ever 100% of our footprint for a couple reasons.

  • One is for that because we want to make sure we are located where we need to be and there may not always be a retail opportunity.

  • The second thing is we have got some patient service centers where we might have four or five phlebotomists at a time.

  • And given the limited space in a retail site, we are never going to be able to move those kind of centers fully into retail.

  • So, we see it as a great opportunity but it is not going to be a full replacement.

  • And in terms of its impact on our cost savings and our Invigorate, which also is revenue enhancement, it is going to play out over the next couple the years.

  • Brian Tanquilut - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Ricky Goldwasser, Morgan Stanley.

  • Ricky Goldwasser - Analyst

  • I have two questions.

  • First one just in terms of clarification around the moving parts around pricing.

  • I think you mentioned that the hospital contracts are priced headwind of the 120 basis points.

  • So can you just kind of walk us through what the headwinds and tailwinds are on the price metric?

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Yes, sure.

  • So again, I want to separate price from mix, I think it is really important.

  • So, price itself, as we mentioned, which is apples-to-apples price for the same offering on a given task, is -- was down a little less than 1% in the quarter.

  • So everything else was mix.

  • So what we did share is the mix impact for Professional Laboratory Services was a headwind of 120 basis points.

  • So you could back into everything else was the positive mix that offset price and offset the mix [appeal] less to give us a net 20 basis point improvement in revenue per req.

  • And with that said, the reason we are very careful, Ricky, about separating price from mix is that while price definitely directionally is an indication of profitability, mix is not always representative of profitability.

  • So, we caution people and, as we have said over time, don't take math which is mix driven as a signal for increased or decreased profitability.

  • Ricky Goldwasser - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And just to clarify on the impact from hospital, is that something that you expect to improve over the course of the year, over the course of the contract?

  • Or is this just going to be a matter of we have to think about it as from a comp perspective?

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • It is a very different business, Ricky, as I pointed out in my prepared remarks.

  • And because of the nature of that business it happens to have fewer tasks and different priced tasks than our core business.

  • And those tasks are at a attractive margin, so it is not indicative that, again, just because it has lower revenue per req that that means it is not a profitable test.

  • And in fact the impact should grow because our expectations are that PLS will grow faster than our core book of business and therefore that mix impact will increase over time, not just this year, but as our strategy will be going forward we see more and more of these opportunities.

  • Ricky Goldwasser - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then my next question is more longer-term nature, really focusing on 2018, which is the first year of PAMA.

  • When we think about the different moving parts and try to better understand the earnings power, obviously there is more clarity on PAMA now.

  • But can you just kind of like help us through to think what are the other variables we need to think about?

  • Do you have any big contract up for renewal in 2018?

  • And also as you think about expanding Invigorate beyond 2017, how much more cost do you estimate you will need to take out in order to offset the PAMA impact?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • So first of all on PAMA, as we said in our remarks, we are pleased we have a push out of the date.

  • Second is we are pleased that they have expanded with the approach for laboratories in the sample set.

  • And we will see when we get 2018 if there is a price reduction and how much it is.

  • And they estimate that at single digits.

  • And also what we said is, if you go back and look at our history, the reason why we have Invigorate and the reason why we continue to drive quality and efficiency is to be able to absorb some of the headwinds.

  • And obviously true price concessions, and I treat this as true price concessions as Mark just said, is one of the offsets.

  • So what we said what we believe is when we get there we will have to absorb this and we will absorb this.

  • So with that said, we have only provided guidance and an outlook for Invigorate through 2017.

  • What I said in my remarks is we continue to be on track for that.

  • It is $1.3 billion; it is an additional $600 million, but what we achieved a couple years ago, so we feel good about the progress made on that.

  • And then what we also have said is that in any business, in any industry you need to continue to drive efficiency and quality going forward past 2017.

  • And we are not prepared at this point to talk about that.

  • But given what I said earlier, obviously we are going to have to have some efficiency gains in 2018 to be able to offset any kind of price erosion and we feel confident that we will have those given what we have in our perspective on the future.

  • So, that is what I can share at this point.

  • But we are encouraged by what we learned and the visibility around PAMA.

  • We are encouraged by Invigorate and the progress we are making there.

  • And we are not done with that; we will continue to make progress and we will deal with that in due course.

  • Ricky Goldwasser - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Ross Muken, Evercore.

  • Ross Muken - Analyst

  • I guess you talked a lot about some of the improvements across the business, obviously quite evident first part of this year versus last year and the [few] prior.

  • And I guess where do you feel like the momentum has been maybe better than you would have expected, maybe it is on some of the PLS agreement or what [DIS] is looking like?

  • And then is there any part that you would point to as it has trended that maybe you feel like needs to be more of a tailwind for you than it has been?

  • It feels like the business is starting to turn a corner here, so I am just trying to differentiate where you feel like maybe not you have declared victory but you are sort of where you want to be versus not?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Yes, I appreciate the question.

  • And what we have said for the last four years is that our restore growth strategy is multifaceted.

  • This business, this industry has a number of products, a number of different programs, a number of different services and we have to work multiple fronts.

  • To answer your direct question about where we are encouraged, we are encouraged by the continued prospects around advanced diagnostics and the genetic offerings that we introduced this quarter are very strong.

  • We feel they are very competitive now with some of the incumbents in the marketplace, particularly around our BRCA offering.

  • We expanded our panel, we have now a very nice comprehensive hereditary based panel.

  • And as you know, we continue to build on our relationship with Memorial Sloan-Kettering in that space.

  • We offer some nice offerings around colorectal cancer as well as a comprehensive hereditary cancer panel.

  • So that is good and growing and a lot of promise in front of it.

  • Second is we talked about the work around hepatitis C, continues to be a great opportunity for us.

  • Last quarter we talked about the companion diagnostics associated with it that is promising.

  • And then third is prescription drug monitoring continues to be a big opportunity for us, it is growing, we are pleased with our progress.

  • And as you know, in this country there is a lot of renewed interest around pain meds and opiates and misuse of those and we are right in the middle of that whole debate and we are part of the solution for that problem.

  • And with that we are coupling that with our hospital services business, which we have been working on for the past four years.

  • You are starting to see the fruits of our efforts there.

  • We are very pleased with our announcement of Barnabas, we are very pleased with the acquisition of our Hartford Hospital outreach relationship, which again is a purchase but at the same time it builds a relationship with Hartford Hospital.

  • We are very pleased with our first work with HCA.

  • And as I said, there is many more prospects in our funnel that we continue to be happy about.

  • Now with that said, the last question is where do you think there is more promise?

  • I think this last piece, the strategy around hospitals, is something that I believe will continue to be a great growth driver for us.

  • As I work the country and speak with our teams and speak with hospital CEOs and their management teams, they clearly can't do it all themselves and they are looking for partnerships.

  • And they realize that all we do every day is Diagnostic Information Services.

  • And where we have these relationships, they're those organizations that realize they are best served serving their population and doing best in their business by relying on us for their Diagnostic Information Services business.

  • So I think there is a lot more growth opportunities going forward than what we have seen so far and I am optimistic about that.

  • Thank you for the question.

  • Ross Muken - Analyst

  • Yes, that was great.

  • And maybe just a quick follow up on the cancer genetic side.

  • I mean there is so much going on.

  • And we continue to hear more optimistic things in terms of the companion CDL1.

  • How is your thought process evolving around how you are going to play there?

  • Obviously you have some existing relationships and how you size that market versus maybe some of the legacy similar type drugs?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Yes, well, first of all it is evolving, it is growing, it is exciting.

  • As you know, reimbursement is always the challenge in this space.

  • What we have focused on in those areas where there is good reimbursement.

  • And clearly BRCA is one of the best examples of the industry seeing benefit from it and now it is getting reimbursed for it.

  • And as we introduced with our new product this past quarter, we now have an expanded panel in that regard for other hereditary markers in that offering.

  • We believe that it's promising for us it provides more prospects for growth.

  • And we continue to work the reimbursement side of this to demonstrate with good clinical evidence that in fact that actually delivering value that is actionable, because only when you can defend that you have good clinical value and it is actionable that you will get paid by healthcare insurance companies.

  • So we are continuously working that.

  • So it is evolving, but it is exciting and it is a key opportunity for growth for us going forward.

  • Ross Muken - Analyst

  • Great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Jack Meehan, Barclays.

  • Jack Meehan - Analyst

  • I wanted to start just on the underlying utilization trends you are seeing.

  • I know, Mark, you mentioned about half the growth was CLP and MemorialCare, what do you think -- did Barnabas and maybe the movement of Easter add in the quarter?

  • And just in general what are you seeing in terms of the physician office trend?

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Yes, so I have not and I wouldn't break out a specific engagement like Barnabas and its impact.

  • But certainly it contributed positively for us.

  • As you look at all the moving parts, Jack, I think the organic growth is a pretty solid number taking in account the movement of Easter and other calendar shifts and so on and so forth.

  • So you can look at the approximately 100 basis points of organic growth and count on that as being solid and something that is a trend that we are going to build on and continue throughout the balance of the year driven by growth in our core business and also some growth in this new opportunity being our Professional Laboratory Services, most notably Barnabas.

  • But I am not going to be splitting out specific relationships or engagements each quarter.

  • Jack Meehan - Analyst

  • Yes, understood.

  • And then one more on PAMA.

  • I am just curious now that the final rule is out in the market and it's beginning to get digested by the industry, are you seeing any different tone with either hospitals or smaller independent labs in terms of the M&A around whether it is in sourcing versus outsourcing and just the relationships that you develop there?

  • Thanks.

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Well, I can't say that the build, if you will, of interest around building a relationship with Quest is specifically related to what is going on with PAMA.

  • But there might be some correlation between PAMA in that; it is another contributing factor.

  • When we have conversations with hospital systems, they talk about the changing nature of their business, they are moving away from fee for service to taking risk.

  • [When you move the] risk they need to have a low-cost provider.

  • There is no question we are a lower cost provider than typically their hospital lab is.

  • And they have a lot of other priorities and why would they put their next dollar of investment into laboratory when they have a good national leader nearby?

  • And so, that is typically the conversation we have.

  • And they realize that there is going to be price pressure on their commercial rate in every place.

  • And, yes, their laboratory commercial rates will be under pressure, but also they understand Medicare is not going to also provide a lot of help as well, so there's going to be pressure there.

  • So, it is contributing but it is not necessarily I would say an overall driver so far.

  • But with all that said, I think people realize that there will be with all this analysis for interest in it going forward -- it is hard to say, beyond what the estimate was of mid-single-digits in 2018, how that will affect specific labs.

  • So, that estimate is based upon the market basket that CMS says, the fees for all their expenditures for the clinical lab fee schedule.

  • And so, when you specifically apply whatever cuts there might be to a specific business, it could be considerable for small operators that are doing mostly routine testing in a small geography.

  • And they are not billing out all the codes like we do for clinical lab fee schedule for Medicare.

  • So, [it is unfolding], but still more to learn but I think we have a lot more clarity today than we did [two] months ago.

  • Jack Meehan - Analyst

  • Understood.

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Steven Valiquette, Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

  • Steven Valiquette - Analyst

  • Steve and Mark, congrats on these results.

  • Just on the PAMA-related reimbursement change -- the way it is obviously good news, as you mentioned.

  • Yet it does still seem from some calls that we are getting that maybe there is still a little bit of investor confusion as to whether or not there could be any CMS cuts to the CLFS in 2017 to essentially replace the PAMA delay.

  • I think there was some color in the final rule that suggests this is probably even more unlikely now.

  • But maybe it wouldn't hurt on this call just to give your latest thoughts on that just to clear the air, if you are able to.

  • Thanks.

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • No, I think CMS is very focused on getting PAMA right.

  • So, it is an act of Congress and therefore any change in PAMA would require another act of Congress.

  • So, their entire focus is on this.

  • Clearly they've got to get it right.

  • They've been told by Congress that they need to do it with a market-based approach and this is their entire focus.

  • So, from our view this is what we should expect will happen in 2017 is really gathering all the data, going through all the data trying to understand it.

  • And as you know, we still have the CPI adjustment and the productivity adjustment as well and some of that came through in 2016 and will continue to come through as time goes on.

  • So, our view is this is going to be the predominance of focus for CMS and how we get paid.

  • Steven Valiquette - Analyst

  • Okay, got it.

  • One other quick one just if I can sneak one in too.

  • The earlier color on the Safeway retail deal was helpful.

  • Just one quick follow-up on that is curious whether that Safeway deal precludes you from entering into other similar large deals with other retailers in those six states that you have entered into so far.

  • And could you theoretically still do a national retail deal like this with any third party if you chose to do so?

  • Thanks.

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Yes, we continue to have freedom to operate.

  • It is a great relationship, continue to build on it.

  • But we believe there is more opportunities for us to build our patient access.

  • We have unparalleled access, we believe.

  • We have over 2,200 patient service centers, they have over 3,500 people in physicians' offices.

  • And then we have partnerships with JVs.

  • So, it continues to build and we think this retail opportunity, as I described, is really you've got those three prongs.

  • One is great patient experience, second is [it helps us with] efficiency.

  • And potentially augments that unparalleled access but nice access to where people go every day, which are typically retail stores.

  • So, we are encouraged, but we have more prospects as well going forward to expand and even further because we are not limited in our ability to operate with the relationship we have with Safeway.

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Yes, so as Steve said, the contract with Safeway does not preclude us from other (inaudible).

  • But as you might imagine, we are not going to put in redundant space.

  • So, if we have a Safeway location in a given neighborhood it is unlikely, even if they have a partnership with another retailer, that we would put another PSC in the same location.

  • So, it is really all about mapping this out, the demographics where our business is, where we draw the businesses from the physician's office, etc.

  • So, and the partnership with Safeway is really important and they are kind of -- since they are on the lead here they are going to be one of the first people to decide in partnership with us where we are going to put some of these locations.

  • And so, I wanted to stress that while it doesn't preclude us and we certainly are in discussion with other retailers, we highly value the Safeway agreement.

  • And as I said, as the first mover, they are going to be the one we are starting.

  • Steven Valiquette - Analyst

  • Okay, got it.

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Amanda Murphy, William Blair.

  • Amanda Murphy - Analyst

  • Just a follow up on PAMA.

  • So, I am not sure if you have an answer for this but I am just curious.

  • In terms of using the [NPI] from a hospital perspective, just given that you have quite a few relationships with hospitals at this point.

  • I am just wondering how -- or if you have any view into how they are looking at that piece of it, particularly if they don't have an NPI as a hospital lab.

  • Is that something you think that labs will have -- (inaudible) labs will have incentive to get at this point or (inaudible)?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • Well first of all, as I said in my remarks, the movement away from using the TIN, the tax ID number, to a net provider (inaudible) number is positive.

  • We think there will be more labs required to contribute their data to CMS with that.

  • But like so many parts of healthcare, we don't fully appreciate the extent of how many more and what percentage that will be.

  • And actually as a trade association, this is American Clinical Lab Association, we are going to sponsor a project to actually do a sampling of hospitals to see if in fact there are -- what this does to the sample.

  • Because our objective, along with Congress, along with CMS, is to get this right.

  • And we said it should be market-based and we all agree that the market includes the national labs, the regional labs and hospital outreach.

  • And so, we appreciate this new approach, but we want to make sure with this new approach it does capture hospital outreach.

  • So we are going to run a study and see what it shows us and then take it from there.

  • Amanda Murphy - Analyst

  • Okay, fair enough.

  • And then just on the Quintiles JV.

  • Just wanted to get an update there given kind of their relationship with IMS.

  • I think you had talked in the past about potentially working with Quintiles more broadly than the central lab, so wondering how those conversations are going at this point?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Well, we continue to focus on our integration of our laboratory operations.

  • And that was their primary focus of the joint venture is to bring both of our businesses together and take out the cost, the redundant costs of both of those operations.

  • We are making very good progress on that front, we feel good about it.

  • And as Mark said in his introductory remarks, it is showing up in our results below the operating income line, but we will build value through that relationship.

  • As far as other work with Quintiles, what we shared before is, yes, we will consider working with Quintiles and IMS and others around how we use our data to help with drug discovery.

  • We have nothing really firm in place with any of them, but I will share with you that we have multiple working relationships in.

  • And one of those relationships is with Quintiles.

  • So, we continue to look at what the data means and how we can use it and doing some tests with a variety of potential partners in this space.

  • So, we are still encouraged about the prospects, but having some type of preferred or exclusive or closer relationship is not what we have today.

  • Amanda Murphy - Analyst

  • Got it, thanks very much.

  • Operator

  • Bill Quirk, Piper Jaffray.

  • Bill Quirk - Analyst

  • So, first question I guess is going back to the earlier HCA HealthONE lab management question.

  • And that is in the event that you were able to expand that to kind of -- do you have any sense, Steve, what kind of I guess the evaluation period would be?

  • I am just trying to get an idea here, is this kind of a two-year see if this works and we can expand it, or it this a longer-term sort of project?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • It would be highly speculative of me to comment on that.

  • We have to be successful with this first project, demonstrate we can save them money.

  • I mean in the end this is all about making their inpatient laboratory more efficient.

  • We believe we can.

  • When we put those points on board we realize that that is going to be very visible to HCA management and we will take it from there.

  • But beyond what I said it would be highly speculative for me to comment on how fast it is going to move.

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Just to be clear, the relationship itself is not a pilot, it is a firm multi-year relationship that we are committed to.

  • What we were implying is that, as you might imagine, there is a possibility of further expansion.

  • And whether it is within HCA or other hospital systems, seeing the momentum we are getting, hearing from some of the CEOs with whom we have relationships, how successful these things are going and how valuable it is to them.

  • So, we will save them money.

  • So, it is really in our minds just a matter of comfort and time before we will expand these somewhere, whether we expand it more broadly within HCA or other places, we think the more -- the better your track record is the better opportunity you have to get more people on board.

  • And it is with the Denver division of HCA, just to be clear, not with HCA itself.

  • Bill Quirk - Analyst

  • I appreciate the color, thank you.

  • And then secondly, just I guess latest thoughts around the FDA's LDT initiative.

  • It seems like every day that goes by without it getting to OMB or congressional notification suggests that we may see a legislative solution?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Well, we are working it.

  • As you know, we believe as an industry that the FDA does not have the statutory authority to regulate laboratories and LDTs.

  • We have been working proactively on a legislative solution with a number of groups.

  • We've made some progress on that front but, as you know, it's the summer months and not a lot will happen in the summer months of Washington.

  • So we will see when the fall is here where this goes.

  • But we think a legislative solution is the best option for us and that is the one that we are pursuing.

  • And we hope we can be able to get to a place that we can accept that the trade association in it but as a Company going forward.

  • But it is still there but it is moving at a very slow pace.

  • Bill Quirk - Analyst

  • Understood, thanks for the color.

  • Operator

  • A.J. Rice, UBS.

  • A.J. Rice - Analyst

  • With the pickup in the pace around deals with hospitals whether it is contract, outright purchasing of business and other structures, can you just maybe comment a little bit on how those structures have evolved?

  • The economics of the deals that you are seeing today versus a few years ago, are they different, about the same, are you pushing a different type of structure, is the hospital asking for any kind of different structure?

  • Just give us a flavor on that.

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • Well first of all, you see one deal you see one deal, we have said this before because healthcare is complex, every deal has got its own nuances, as you can appreciate.

  • And you have to separate when we buy an outreach business, that is an outright purchase of their existing commercial business.

  • And in the case -- a good example of that is what we -- with Hartford Hospital in CLP which we closed and we are in the process of integrating.

  • And I would characterize those deals as being similar to the other ones we have done.

  • We pick over the business, we reprice it at our rates, we build a business case around taking out cost and we think the returns to our shareholders are quite good.

  • But what I will also say, and I said this in my [interim] remarks, when we typically do that it typically gets us into a broader conversation about their lab strategy.

  • And typically they're saying, wow, okay, now we are tight with you, let's talk about our advanced testing for our hospitals or what is called reference testing.

  • And let's talk about how you potentially could help us with our hospital inpatient laboratory and making that more efficient.

  • So, it typically becomes a beachhead opportunity for us to build a stronger relationship.

  • The second type of relationship, A.J., is we have an engagement, a professional services engagement, like the one we have with Barnabas.

  • And that is a services relationship, it is multiyear, we are providing service for a fee, we believe on certain -- we agree on certain conditions of delivery and payment and we run it as that.

  • And again, when we get in those relationships, because this is all around their inpatient laboratory, we then typically get in a conversation around their outreach business.

  • Is that something they want to continue to stay in?

  • Could we help them with it?

  • And second is their advanced testing for their reference testing with us.

  • So we have that conversation as well.

  • And I would say the third example is where there is a broader, deeper relationship where we think it might be prudent for us to form a joint venture in some form.

  • And the most recent example of us doing that is with University of Massachusetts Medical Center where we bought their outreach business, but we also help them in many different ways in central Massachusetts.

  • And so, they actually have a small minority stake in that joint venture.

  • So we are deeply embedded together in making that work in Central Mass.

  • So all different sizes and shapes of how we work with hospital systems, which reflects the marketplace.

  • But I think part of our strategy here as well is what we are showing to the marketplace is we're a Company and an organization that can manage in this very, very dynamic space.

  • And you can work with Quest in whatever way makes sense.

  • Obviously we want a deal that is going to work for both sides.

  • But we are flexible and prudent in how we put together those relationships.

  • But again, you see one deal, you see one deal.

  • So hopefully that is helpful in provide a little more color on how those work.

  • A.J. Rice - Analyst

  • That is great.

  • Let me -- and just a quick follow-up on a different area.

  • So you had the asset sale this quarter, you stepped up the shared repurchases you have done before with other asset sales.

  • When you think about capital deployment for the second half and moving forward, should we assume the share repurchase activity sort of settles back to what we saw in the first quarter?

  • Or any other comments on direction of cash flow in the back half of the year?

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Yes, so I assume when you say cash flow you mean cash utilization, A.J.

  • A.J. Rice - Analyst

  • Right.

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • What you should assume as we will follow our fifth point of our five-point strategy.

  • So, once we get to the ASR, which was really triggered, as you pointed out, by the monetization of the Focus products business, we will continue to either deploy towards M&A or towards share repurchases.

  • Obviously between the dividend and share repurchases we have done through the first half of the year we have met our commitment of guaranteeing a majority of our free cash flow to our shareholders.

  • So we have met that threshold.

  • So the back half, depending on the timing and probability of executing any sort of deal, the cash will either be utilized for that, and if we don't have value creating deals and we close in that timeframe, then we will, as opposed to sitting on the cash, we would do some additional repurchases.

  • A.J. Rice - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Isaac Ro, Goldman Sachs.

  • Isaac Ro - Analyst

  • First question was kind of a longer-term item regarding PAMA.

  • Just curious if the current state of PAMA legislation has had any impact on the nature of your conversations with private payers when it comes to negotiating your longer-term contracts with them.

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • No, it really -- it is an interesting topic, but frankly they are looking at our relationship, the term of that relationship, where any discussion around pricing should be.

  • So very little relationship, if any, between what is happening with PAMA and the refresh of the clinic lab fee schedule and our discussions with payers.

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Yes, we have gotten that question, Isaac a number of times.

  • I want to say again that there is very, very few contracts, if any, that are mechanically tied to Medicare rates.

  • You asked if the reference point that people use in some discussions -- but there is really -- since there is not a mechanistic trigger, as Steve said, it has really not been a topic of conversation.

  • They obviously want the best value, we'll have discussions around the value that we bring them.

  • And the fact that we already have excellent pricing, that is more the focus of the conversation versus anything going on in the public sector reimbursement.

  • Isaac Ro - Analyst

  • That is helpful.

  • And then just a follow-up question on 2016 guidance, specifically for cash flow.

  • I think your guidance does call for an acceleration in CapEx in the back half of this year just based on what we know you spent in the first half.

  • So, I am wondering what that acceleration is related to and then to what extent some of those dollars might be one time in nature that roll off in 2017?

  • Thank you.

  • Mark Guinan - SVP & CFO

  • Yes, so when you say acceleration, we have had an historical pattern of spending more in the back half than the first half.

  • So this year is not atypical.

  • We are slightly lower this year versus last year by a little over $10 million for the first six months of the year.

  • We are guiding to a number that is similar to slightly less than we spent last year.

  • So, I think it all fits, Isaac.

  • It really has to do with the timing of some of the work that we are doing where we consume our capital.

  • And certainly a part of that is some equipment refresh, some of that is tied to our Invigorate program such as the lab standardization work and it is really driven by when we are executing some of those conversions.

  • There is really nothing unusual or atypical, I would say, in our capital spend this year and the good news is that we are [expecting] to spend less this year than we did last year.

  • And as we move forward, as we have mentioned, we are looking to get some of this high level of capital for Invigorate behind us and really return to a little lower level than we have versus the last couple years as a proportion of our total operating cash flow and as a proportion of req.

  • Isaac Ro - Analyst

  • That makes sense.

  • Thanks very much, guys.

  • Operator

  • Bill Bonello, Craig-Hallum.

  • Bill Bonello - Analyst

  • Just kind of a big picture question on the commercial contracting outlook going forward.

  • I think we are coming up on 10 years of some of these preferred national relationships for the large labs and some of the largest payers.

  • Obviously the payer landscape is changing pretty dramatically.

  • At least one of those contracts I believe terms in 2018.

  • I am just curious how you think that situation plays out going forward.

  • Do you think we continue to have a situation where you have certain payers aligned with certain national providers?

  • Or do you think we move into a more open access kind of contracting situation over the next several years?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Well first of all, Bill, thanks for the question.

  • We are not going to comment on our specific contracts with some of our largest partners.

  • But as we said before, we have hundreds of contracts and we are [constantly] working on what happens every year with some of the refreshes on those contracts.

  • And in that regard we have our normal cadence of how we will work through that this year, next year and into 2018.

  • Generally given our leadership position in this marketplace, we are fortunate to be included in most of the healthcare insurance contracts throughout this country.

  • And I think increasingly (inaudible) obvious it's good for patients, it is good for them attracting membership that they have Quest on contract.

  • Now despite us maybe not having a preferred national relationship in some cases, we still continue to have strong working relationships with some of those healthcare insurance companies that we don't enjoy those relationships.

  • And also we continue to see other ways of working together with some of those systems.

  • So, we'll speculate on or give specifics on contract dates and timing of all that, but we are managed this in due course.

  • Unfortunately for us we have a very strong position given our strength and position in this marketplace that collectively and collaboratively we are part of the network of what is required to in healthcare delivery throughout the country in a big way.

  • And we have good strong seat at the table.

  • Bill Bonello - Analyst

  • Do want to elaborate at all?

  • You said exploring alternative ways of working together, on what any of that might look like?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Sure, I mean I'll give you an example.

  • We have a big business, as you are aware, around wellness.

  • So our wellness business is a good business, we sell it directly to large employers.

  • But we also sell it to healthcare insurance companies.

  • And selling it to healthcare insurance companies, they resell it.

  • An example of that is we sell it to Aetna, we sell it to Cigna, but we also sell it to [United Optum] as an example.

  • We also are perpetually asked for data.

  • We test about 50% of adult Americans every year -- excuse me, in the course of three years.

  • Having that data is quite important to healthcare insurance companies.

  • So we are quite collaborative with the industry of serving up our data to help them manage some of their managed Medicaid or managed Medicare business in a collaborative way.

  • So two examples -- and a third example is with Inovalon, which is our data analytics product which is part of our new product introduction that we've made this year around Quantum.

  • We serve this up to all healthcare insurance companies regardless of what we have for a laboratory contact.

  • And so, we are proactively working with all the companies that are taking risk and so I'll put this again in a different place with all healthcare insurance companies in a much different and broader way.

  • So, we often think about our laboratory contract, but our relationships with these systems are much broader than that.

  • Bill Bonello - Analyst

  • Perfect.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Shawn Bevec - Executive Director of IR

  • Operator?

  • Steve Rusckowski - President & CEO

  • Thanks again for joining us on this call today.

  • As you can tell, we are making very good progress executing on our five-point strategy.

  • We appreciate your time and look forward to seeing you in our travels.

  • Have a good day.

  • Operator

  • Thank you for participating in the Quest Diagnostics second-quarter 2016 conference call.

  • A transcript of prepared remarks on this call will be posted later today on Quest Diagnostic's website at www.questdiagnostics.com.

  • A replay of the call may be accessed online at www.questdiagnostics.com/investor, or by phone at 888-566-0473 for domestic callers, or 402-988-0640 for international callers.

  • Telephone replays will be available from 10:30 a.m.

  • Eastern Time today until midnight Eastern Time on August 20, 2016.

  • Goodbye.