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  • Operator

  • Good morning, my name is Labrielle and I will be your conference operator today.

  • At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Dollar General fourth-quarter 2014 earnings call.

  • Today is Thursday, March 12, 2015.

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • This call is being recorded.

  • Instructions for listening to the replay of the call are available in the Company's earnings press release issued this morning.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Mary Winn Pilkington, Vice President of Investor Relations and Public Relations.

  • Ms. Pilkington, you may begin your conference.

  • Mary Winn Pilkington - VP of IR & PR

  • Thank you, Labrielle, and good morning, everyone.

  • On the call today are Rick Dreiling, our Chairman and CEO; Todd Vasos, our Chief Operating Officer; and David Tehle, our CFO.

  • We will first go through our prepared remarks and then we will open up the call for questions.

  • Our earnings release, issued today can be found on our website at DollarGeneral.com under Investor Information, Press Releases.

  • Let me caution you that today comments will include forward-looking statements about our expectations, plans, predictions and other non-historical matters such as our 2015 forecasted financial results and capital expenditures, our planned fiscal 2015 operating and merchandising initiatives and our 2015 and 2016 store growth initiative and our beliefs regarding future consumer economic trends.

  • Important factors that could cause actual results or events to differ materially from those reflected in or implied by our forward-looking statements are included in our earnings release issued this morning, our 2013 Form 10-K which was filed on March 20, 2014, any subsequently filed Form 10-Qs and in the comments that are made on this call.

  • We encourage you to read these documents.

  • You should not unduly rely on forward-looking statements which speak only as of today's date.

  • Dollar General disclaims any obligation to update or revise any information discussed in this call.

  • We will also reference certain financial measures not derived in accordance with GAAP where available reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measure are included in this morning's earnings release, which I mentioned is posted on DollarGeneral.com.

  • The purpose of our call today is to discuss our performance for the fiscal Q4 2014 quarter and fiscal year and our outlook for the 2015 fiscal year.

  • At the end of our prepared remarks we will open the call up to your questions on those subjects.

  • Please limit your questions to one and follow -- one follow-up question if necessary.

  • Now it is my pleasure to the call over to Rick.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Thank you, Mary Winn, and thanks to everyone for joining our call.

  • Today we reported results for the fourth quarter 2014 and the full year.

  • 2014 was a unique year for Dollar General as we generated record operating results, but our strategic actions to acquire Family Dollar were unsuccessful.

  • However, as our results and outlook indicate, Dollar General has a very promising future.

  • Today's accelerated store growth plans for 2016 and expanded capital return plan for shareholders reaffirm our continued confidence in our long-term growth prospects.

  • Returning cash to shareholders remains a top priority.

  • And we plan to return approximately $1.6 billion to shareholders during 2015 through both share repurchases and the initiation of a regular cash quarterly dividend of $0.22 per share.

  • I'm excited about another great year in 2015 as we look to capitalize on the numerous opportunities ahead of us.

  • We have been and remain focused on Dollar General's core business and we are confident that Dollar General is well-positioned for sustainable growth creating shareholder value going forward.

  • Let's recap some of the highlights for 2014.

  • Full-year sales increased 8% to a record $18.9 billion and sales per square foot increased to $223.

  • 2014 marked our 25th consecutive year of same-store sales growth as we delivered same-store sales growth of 2.8% for the year.

  • Importantly, our trends improved as we moved through the year.

  • Our same-store sales for the fourth quarter increased 4.9%, marking our fourth consecutive quarter of acceleration.

  • In the quarter same-store sales growth was balanced across both consumables and non-consumables.

  • The non-consumable categories have now had four consecutive quarters of improvement with notable strength in apparel and home.

  • For the year GAAP earnings per share increased 10% and adjusted earnings per share increased 9%.

  • Net income in the fourth quarter increased 10%.

  • Earnings per share improved 16% to $1.17 per share.

  • For the quarter the recent West Coast port slowdown negatively impacted our earnings per share by approximately $0.02 as higher margin merchandise coming through the West Coast port was delayed.

  • This estimate includes incremental cost for shipments that had to be diverted to alternative facilities on the East Coast.

  • For the 28th consecutive quarter we increased both our customer traffic and average ticket.

  • We generated significant cash flow from operations of $1.3 billion, an increase of more than 8%.

  • During the year we returned $800 million to shareholders through the repurchase of 14.1 million shares of common stock.

  • As our results indicate, we continued to make great progress in 2014.

  • We opened 700 new stores and exceeded our combined remodels and relocation targets with 915 stores, increasing our selling square footage by 6.3%.

  • We broke ground on our 13th distribution center in San Antonio, Texas to help us serve our growing store base in the Southwest and generate efficiencies.

  • On the merchandising front we continued to innovate and improve the sales productivity of our stores.

  • We successfully completed our first full year of tobacco sales and saw positive year-over-year performance after the anniversary.

  • Our renewed focus on $1.00 to $5.00 items continued to gain traction with our customers.

  • Now more than 75% of our SKUs or 76% of our sales in the fourth quarter were items priced at $5.00 or less.

  • I am pleased to say that we continue to increase our overall market share of consumables in both units and dollars across all markets over the 4-week, 12-week, 24-week and 52-week periods ending January 31, 2015.

  • As we experienced last quarter, our emphasis on affordability continues to pay off as our unit share growth continues to outpace our dollar share growth over any period measured in the last 52 weeks.

  • In 2014 we successfully stabilized our shrink performance in the second quarter.

  • Shrink had a modest positive contribution year-over-year to our gross margin performance in the second half of the year.

  • This should bode well for 2015.

  • We re-launched our customer satisfaction survey at the beginning of 2014 to reevaluate those aspects of the store experience that had the greatest impact on satisfaction and customer spending.

  • We have seen the response from our customers improve consistently over the last six months as we measure what is important to them.

  • We are constantly striving to fill the needs and meet the changing demands of our customers.

  • Looking ahead to 2015 we are cautiously optimistic for our core customer.

  • For the first time in a number of years there appears to be the potential for tailwinds to outweigh the headwinds for macro trends.

  • And the consumer is more positive, as indicated by the recent consumer sentiment levels and consumer confidence having recently been at the highest level since August of 2007.

  • It is my belief that these consumer confidence ratings are impacted by a headlines job number that is improved and by lower energy prices.

  • Offset to these positives are the elevated under employment rate along with the continuing low labor participation rate.

  • And we are watching these factors closely.

  • Now I'd like to turn the call over to Todd to talk about our initiatives for 2015.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Thank you, Rick.

  • Moving on to 2015, our four operating priorities remain clear: driving productive sales growth; enhancing gross margin; leveraging process improvement and IT to reduce costs; and strengthening and expanding our culture of serving others.

  • The team is focused and we are excited about our initiatives for 2015.

  • We continue to be committed as ever to providing our customers with Everyday Low Prices they know and trust at Dollar General.

  • Affordability will play a key role as we look to expand SKUs across the store at the sweet spot of $1.00 to $5.00.

  • Growing transactions and item units will continue to be key to our market share performance as we build upon our track record of success.

  • In anticipation of changes to the competitive landscape we've been testing several different labor models to determine the potential impact on sales growth.

  • The goal of the test was to strategically target labor investments to grow market share in competitive environments while providing for positive financial returns.

  • Our experience in this test and learn has been positive and we are selectively investing in store labor this year.

  • The store operations team has specific metrics and timetables for achieving results.

  • The great part of this is that we can be nimble in making adjustments to the model as appropriate.

  • While I won't go into more detail today, I look forward to sharing more specifics and results as we roll through the program in 2015.

  • In addition, we have realigned our store operations management structure to optimize the scale of our divisions, regions and districts to improve accountability and maximize mentorship and teamwork, all while driving stronger more sustainable results.

  • We made the alignment changes based on feedback we received from our field teams and a strategic evaluation of our operational structure and store growth plans.

  • The result is an operational structure that allows our field leaders to focus on store standards and ultimately create a better and more consistent shopping experience for our consumers.

  • For 2015 on average we have reduced the number of stores per district.

  • By optimizing the scale of our districts we will reduce the time our district managers spend driving so they can invest more time mentoring and coaching our store managers on developing and strengthening their team.

  • This should result in improved store standards and drive incremental sales.

  • On the merchandising front we are in the midst of repackaging our private brands across both select consumables and non-consumable categories.

  • The goal of the repackaging is to enhance our customer's perception of our private brand quality and value for the price.

  • We had a test launch of the new packaging in select products with very encouraging results.

  • And the majority of these repackaged items are expected to be on the shelf by midyear.

  • We continue to grow our private brands with SKU count up 6% over 2013 and penetration of about 24%.

  • We are continuously looking for ways to leverage technology and engage our customers.

  • We completed the initial roll out of our digital coupon capabilities in August and began to aggressively launch the program at the end of September and throughout the fourth quarter with our Fast Way To Save promotion.

  • To date sign-ups have significantly exceeded our expectations with about 1 million customers having registered for the program.

  • With more than 35 million digital coupons downloaded already, activations and redemptions are having a strong impact on sales of coupon specific items.

  • In 2015 we'll be able to use the data captured from this program like a loyalty card but without the incremental cost.

  • For instance, we plan to use these insights from a customer's shopping trip to customize individual promotions and ultimately drive incremental trips and larger baskets.

  • Shrink improvement has been and continues to be one of our largest gross margin opportunities as we remain committed to reducing our shrink levels on a store-by-store basis.

  • At Dollar General every function is involved in driving shrink improvement.

  • The store format and layout, SKU rationalization of high shrink items, defensive merchandising and exception-based reporting all play a role as we look for shrink improvement going forward.

  • Driving productivity at the store level is as important as ever.

  • Our overarching goal is to create time savings that we can reinvest to better manage our stores and serve our customers.

  • In order to enhance our productivity gains we are elevating the category management process to optimize all areas of the store beyond the planograms to include off-shelf and end cap displays.

  • Over the last several years we have made significant strides in the productivity of our planograms through SKU selection and ongoing refinement.

  • We feel we have established a strong foundation in our planograms that we can refine periodically.

  • We are concentrating on simplifying work at the store level by reducing the complexity of planogram resets.

  • At Dollar General real estate is a core strength.

  • Our real estate model is disciplined and focused on financial returns.

  • We are very optimistic about our new store outlook for 2015 as our pipeline is full and the real estate team is already working on the pipeline for accelerated growth in selling square feet of approximately 7% in 2016.

  • This translates to approximately 900 new store openings for 2016.

  • We have a strong track record of delivering exceptional returns in our new store program and we are confident in our model going forward.

  • In total growth in selling square footage in 2015 is expected to be about 6%.

  • Just to put this growth in perspective, this equates to about seven projects a day for our real estate team across new stores, relocations and remodels.

  • We plan to open approximately 730 new stores.

  • We have already expanded our footprint into three new states in 2015, Maine, Rhode Island and Oregon, as we use our real estate model to identify winning sites for our traditional Dollar General format.

  • Our new stores' productivity continues to be 85% of our comp base and we are looking forward to successful new store openings in 2015.

  • In addition, about 875 stores will be relocated or remodeled in 2015.

  • In 2014 we concentrated our remodel program on our legacy smaller footprint stores.

  • This approach allowed us to improve adjacencies and planogram layouts.

  • These stores are getting close to the same sales lift as we get in our full remodels with a much lower investment, resulting in returns on lifecycle remodels that are over 200 basis points higher than our full remodels.

  • As a result of the success of our lifecycle remodels in 2014, we are applying these learnings to all remodels in 2015.

  • During the first quarter of 2015 we are utilizing our merchandising, predictive technology capabilities and select lifecycle remodels to optimize our space and SKU productivity so we can expect these remodels to drive even higher sales.

  • Also in 2015 we will open our 13th distribution center as we continue to invest in our infrastructure to support our growth.

  • We plan on shipping from this distribution center in late fiscal 2015.

  • We are excited about our plans and I'm confident that we will meet our operating goals.

  • We continue to be cautiously optimistic regarding the economic outlook for our customers, but we will do everything we can to provide them with the value and convenience they expect from Dollar General.

  • Now David will share a more detailed review of our fourth-quarter and full-year financial performance and our 2015 guidance.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you, Todd, and good morning, everyone.

  • Rick and Todd have taken you through the highlights and strategies.

  • Let me now take you through some of the important financial details of the quarter and year as well as our outlook for fiscal 2015.

  • Gross margin for the fourth quarter was 31.7% of sales, a decrease of 23 basis points from last year's fourth quarter.

  • As compared to the prior year, the two most significant factors were the negative impact from the West Coast port slowdown and the LIFO provision that was made in the fourth quarter.

  • Specifically, the West Coast port disruption led to an estimated $8.5 million or $0.02 per share negative impact due to the higher margin inventory receipts not being received and incremental transportation costs.

  • In addition, we recorded a LIFO provision of about $1.1 million in the 2014 fourth quarter compared to a LIFO benefit of $4.5 million in the 2013 fourth quarter.

  • Total SG&A increased by 27 basis points in the fourth quarter as we were lapping last year's significant leverage in SG&A due to the reversal of incentive compensation in the fourth quarter of 2013.

  • This alone contributed 34 basis points to the SG&A increase.

  • In addition, we incurred $6.1 million in expense during the fourth quarter of 2014 or 12 basis points related to the attempted acquisition of Family Dollar.

  • We had good underlying expense performance that was favorable for both retail and admin functions.

  • Our tax rate for the quarter was 34.8% compared to 37.5% in the 2013 quarter.

  • This included a $9 million or $0.03 per share benefit from the reenactment retroactive to January 1, 2014, of the Federal Work Opportunity Tax Credit.

  • This was in line with the outlook we provided on our third-quarter call.

  • The fourth quarter of 2014 also benefited from the deductibility of expenses incurred in prior quarters associated with our attempted acquisition of Family Dollar.

  • Turning to the balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents at yearend totaled nearly $580 million as we did not buy back shares in the second half of the year because of the attempted acquisition.

  • At yearend, merchandise inventories were $2.78 billion, up 9% in total or 2.9% on a per store basis.

  • Total capital expenditures were $374 million including $127 million for improvements, upgrades, remodels and relocations of existing stores, $102 million for new lease stores, $38 million for stores built by us, $64 million for distribution center and transportation related items, and $35 million for information system upgrades and technology related projects.

  • Now for an overview of our guidance for 2015.

  • We expect top-line sales for 2015 to increase 8% to 9%.

  • Overall selling square footage is expected to grow approximately 6% and same-store sales are expected to increase by 3% to 3.5%.

  • Operating profit is forecasted to be in the range of 7% to 9% over adjusted operating profit for 2014.

  • We expect our full-year tax rate to be approximately 37% to 38%.

  • Similar to 2014, we expect the WOTC legislation to be reenacted by the end of 2015.

  • This benefit is included in our tax rate.

  • As a result our effective tax rate will be higher early in the year and lower later in the year.

  • We expect diluted earnings per share of $3.85 to $3.95, representing growth of 10% to 13% over the 2014 adjusted EPS of $3.50.

  • We remain committed to maintaining a disciplined capital allocation strategy to create lasting value for our shareholders through dividends, and share repurchases all while maintaining our investment grade rating.

  • Demonstrating this commitment, we announced today we have initiated a regular quarterly cash dividend of $0.22 per share of common stock.

  • The Board also approved an additional $1 billion increase in our share repurchase authorization.

  • We are assuming approximately 295 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the year which assumes the anticipated repurchase of approximately $1.3 billion of our common stock.

  • All in, this repurchase activity represents approximately 6% of our current market capitalization.

  • Also to put this in context, since December of 2011 we have repurchased $2.3 billion of our common stock.

  • By the end of fiscal 2015 we are forecasting total share repurchases since inception to be about $3.6 billion with 2015 repurchases representing about 36% of the total.

  • In total, as Rick mentioned, we plan to return about $1.6 billion to shareholders through the combination of share repurchases and dividends in 2015.

  • 2015 capital expenditures are forecasted to be in the range of $500 million to $550 million.

  • Approximately 35% will be for improvements, upgrades, remodels and relocations of existing stores; 30% for new lease stores or stores built by us; 25% for distribution center and transportation related items; and 10% for information systems upgrades and technology related projects.

  • As we mentioned, we are closely monitoring the residual effect of the West Coast port slow down and the impact on our seasonal merchandise receipts.

  • The good news is that a tentative agreement has been reached, but it will take months to clear the backlog.

  • Right now, based on the current status of shipments and the uncertainty surrounding the situation, we anticipate a possible drag to earnings of about $0.01 to $0.02 per diluted share in the first quarter and we'll continue to monitor the impact to the timing of receipt and any potential sales and marketing risk as we work through the backlog.

  • As our long-term track record demonstrates, Dollar General is well-positioned to serve our customers regardless of how the economy plays out.

  • Now I would like to turn the call back over to Rick.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Thanks, David.

  • Before we wrap up I would like to express my appreciation and gratitude to David upon his announced retirement.

  • David has served for nearly 11 years as our CFO.

  • He has been a trusted advisor, business partner and, more importantly, a good friend to me.

  • His financial acumen, partnership and steady hand at the helm of our financial strategy have been instrumental in transforming Dollar General and in fueling our impressive growth.

  • While I will truly miss David's leadership and working with him on a daily basis, I am incredibly happy for him and I want to wish David, his wife Mona, and his two sons Nick and Tony, much happiness as they embark on this exciting new journey.

  • Dollar General is a strong and growing business with tremendous high store return growth opportunities that we intend to capture.

  • Our long-term commitments to growth and shareholder value are unchanged.

  • Even as the competitive landscape continues to evolve we have a business model that is proven and resilient.

  • Our business generates significant cash flow and we are in the position to invest in store growth while continuing to return cash to shareholders through consistent share repurchases and dividends.

  • More importantly, I remain excited by the countless opportunities in front of Dollar General and convinced of its ability to capture them.

  • My appreciation and thanks goes out to more than the 105,000 Dollar General employees that executed nearly 1.7 billion customer transactions in 2014 while fulfilling our mission of serving others.

  • With that, Mary Winn, we would now like to open the lines up for questions.

  • Mary Winn Pilkington - VP of IR & PR

  • Operator, we will go for questions.

  • But you might repeat the instructions, if you would please, for getting in the queue.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Charles Grom, Sterne Agee.

  • Charles Grom - Analyst

  • Congrats, David, on your retirement.

  • Just the first question, on the 4.9% comp, could you share with us how it trended during the quarter and any thoughts on quarter-to-date trends?

  • And also, just curious, given your roughly 11% exposure to Texas, how the Texas market is holding in for you?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, the comps, Chuck, accelerated through the quarter, every period getting progressively better.

  • The weather the last couple weeks has been a little funky again, but I would say the first part of the current quarter is performing as expected.

  • And Texas continues to be one of the strongest markets we have.

  • Charles Grom - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • And then just bigger picture, with the FDO deal now in the past, could you give us a sense for what you think the Company's longer-term store potential could be?

  • And as a follow-up to that, where you think the DG Market concept fits into the equation?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, as we every -- like we do every year, Chuck, in January we evaluate the number of opportunities that are out there.

  • We still see over 13,000 opportunities for dollar stores in continental United States.

  • As we committed, we are going to accelerate our store growth in 2016.

  • We still believe store growth is the best use of our funds right now based on the returns we generate and how they comp after that first year.

  • Dollar General Market is very much still, I would say, in the testing stage for us.

  • As I've said before, I have grown up selling produce and meat, but teaching somebody to sell produce and meat are two entirely different things and we continue to work on that concept.

  • Charles Grom - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Best of luck.

  • Operator

  • Paul Trussell, Deutsche Bank.

  • Paul Trussell - Analyst

  • Congrats on a good quarter and congrats, David, on the retirement.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Paul Trussell - Analyst

  • Staying on that, Rick, David, you have been quite a duo here for some time.

  • Can you just discuss the timing of your departure a bit more in detail?

  • 2015 is becoming quite a big transitional year for Dollar General.

  • Just why should we be extremely confident in DG's ability to continue to perform in what is an ever-changing competitive and consolidating marketplace?

  • And also, why has the Board not yet announced a successor for you, Rick, and what are the qualities that are being sought out?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, I think, Paul, it is very fair and I will let David weigh in here.

  • Quite honestly one of the things that we worked incredibly hard on in this Company over the last few years has been the depth of our bench.

  • And I think what should give all of you -- make you feel all really good is while David and I might be departing, there is a tremendous amount of strength behind us that manages this Company on a day in and day out basis and actually has been advising David and I for a very long period of time.

  • If you think about there has been change over the last few years and the bulk of that change has been satisfied by the bench that we have developed that we have been able to promote from within.

  • In regards to myself, I can tell you the Board is actively engaged in a search and the Board is making solid progress.

  • And I would anticipate that my successor over the course of the next short period of time will probably be identified.

  • David, did you have any --?

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, just briefly, obviously retirement is a personal decision.

  • I am at the age where most people start to think seriously about it.

  • This gives me a rare opportunity to spend lots of valuable time with my two teenage sons as they finish their last years of high school and now I'll be able to make all of their events, which is something most fathers don't get to do.

  • Over the past 11 years, particularly over the last eight years, I have lived every CFO's dream.

  • I was part of the team that took this Company private in 2007, took it public in 2009 and have been able to participate in one of the most spectacular retail growth stories of this decade and it is continuing.

  • As we announced today with our square footage growth for 2016 and opening 900 new stores, again that is nothing short of spectacular.

  • I believe I am leaving one of the finest finance and accounting teams in retail today.

  • So the Company is in good hands in that respect and I wouldn't be leaving if I didn't feel that way.

  • So the experience has been great for me, I believe it will continue to be great for our shareholders and our employees as the Dollar General story keeps moving on.

  • Paul Trussell - Analyst

  • I appreciate the color.

  • Just to follow up on a remaining bigger picture, maybe just a bit more detail on how you came up with the capital return plan, some of the discussions you all had to decide to initiate the dividend, and just how we should think about you guys managing the leverage ratio going forward.

  • Or is the plan to maintain this three times kind of adjusted debt to EBITDAR ratio on a go-forward basis?

  • Are you willing to be more aggressive at times and go above that?

  • Just how should we think about the balance of capital returns going forward?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • David?

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Sure, I will jump in here and please, Rick or Todd, anything else you want to add here.

  • I think probably a better question is why didn't we do a dividend earlier.

  • 85% of companies in the S&P 500 pay a dividend and, until today, we were the largest retailer not paying one.

  • So we clearly were an outlier on the dividend.

  • As we looked at this decision in this low interest rate environment the dividend is highly valued by investors that are trying to find yield and obviously it is hard to find yield in the debt markets.

  • I think this also sends a positive signal to the market of our confidence in future profitability and cash flow of the Company.

  • As we look at the share buyback, again -- and we went through some of these statistics, we have already returned $2.1 billion to the share repurchases since we went public in 2009 and we are guiding another $1.3 billion in 2015.

  • That is 62% of what we bought back over the last five years all being buyback in when year in 2015.

  • So we are consistent in our share repurchases over time and that investment grade rating is important to us.

  • We have talked about that in the prepared comments.

  • We believe [this is from] our research is that is our ultimate capital structure, it's to be at that lower rung of investment grade and it provides us with flexibility for growth and ultimately shareholder return.

  • At the same time, and I have said this for many years, our number one priority in terms of investing is investing in our stores, store growth and then having the infrastructure in place to support that.

  • And as I just mentioned, we are growing stores at a greater rate now than we have probably anytime in the history of the Company as we move forward into 2016, at least in the modern history of the Company.

  • So we will continue to make that a priority.

  • In terms of the leverage ratio, again, right now because of our view that the optimum capital structure is going to be at that lowest rung of investment grade our intent is to stay somewhere in that range.

  • Clearly the management team and the Board will continually review this on an ongoing basis and so stay tuned on that.

  • But right now we are very happy with where we are and what we are doing.

  • Paul Trussell - Analyst

  • Congrats and thank you.

  • Operator

  • John Heinbockel, Guggenheim Securities.

  • John Heinbockel - Analyst

  • So two things just on the long-term.

  • How many stores can the organization handle annually?

  • When you think about that 7% number, obviously it gets bigger as the base gets bigger.

  • When do you get to a point where you worry about execution?

  • And then you are basically assuming for this year, if I look at your guidance, roughly flat EBIT margin.

  • Is that the right long-term algorithm or to you think there is room for margin improvement maybe as shrink goes down and you leverage G&A and things like that?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • I'll tell you what, John, I will let Todd handle the first part and, David, you can take the second part of that one.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Thanks, Rick.

  • John, and we have stated many times, we look at our store openings and the projects that we can do -- we look at it from the respect of capacity and the capacity of our folks to be able to deliver the high-quality sites that we have been come known to deliver over the many years.

  • So we continue to reevaluate that and, as you have heard and you've seen, we have stepped it up to 730 this year and into 900 the following year.

  • So we will continue to look at ways to continue to do more projects as we move forward.

  • But we are committed to square footage growth in that 6% to 7%.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, I think as we look at our operating margin, clearly we do expect better performance than we saw in 2013 and 2014 given some of the product category headwinds we had from tobacco in those years.

  • As we look forward I think as we look at shrink and category management and foreign sourcing, again we still think we have room to expand the operating margin.

  • Now we have got to make a decision and I've said this many times in terms of how much of that to let fall to the bottom line and how much to invest back in our pricing because ultimately our number one goal remains selling units through the box and making sure that we continue to grow our transactions.

  • So, but again, there is still room there particularly when you look at shrink, category management and foreign sourcing.

  • John Heinbockel - Analyst

  • And then, Rick, just as a follow up on DG Market, when you look at what Aldi is doing, Lidl coming.

  • Does that format hold greater importance to you strategically than it might have a couple years ago?

  • Can you -- before you leave, can you kind of get it on the right track?

  • And then is it -- do you see more of the impact will be more in -- if you do go forward with it, more in the format itself or learnings that you take back into the core Dollar Stores be it produce, expanded food or we are not really going to see that?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, I think as I look at what we do best, and probably I would say, John, right now the best format we have when you mentioned competitors like Aldi is our 7,500 square foot box.

  • Yes, there is some -- Aldi has some more consumables in it.

  • But you have got to remember, we are a convenience shop, we are not a destination shop.

  • And I think that 7,500 box, when you look at producing $223 a foot, you look at where it has come from, we believe that is the best piece we have got.

  • When I think about Dollar General Market I think you hit the nail on the head.

  • I think that learnings are what we are extracting from that.

  • And the fact that some of those learnings eventually are going to work their way into that 7,500 highly productive box.

  • John Heinbockel - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Dan Binder, Jefferies.

  • Dan Binder - Analyst

  • David, we will be sorry to see you go, but congratulations on your retirement.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Dan Binder - Analyst

  • My question was related to expansion this coming year and then as you step it up to 7% square footage growth next year, is there a particular regional focus that you will have?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Dan, that is a great question.

  • The store base is going to expand pretty much uniformly all the way through the United States.

  • Obviously we have just entered Oregon, Rhode Island and Maine, so probably a little bit more emphasis there, but the idea is to spread it out across the United States.

  • Dan Binder - Analyst

  • And you cited the focus on price investment.

  • Just curious if you could comment on what you are seeing in the competitive landscape this past quarter and early this quarter?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Good, Todd, do you want to take that one?

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Yes, sure, Dan.

  • What we have seen is in our channel and really across retail it is always competitive.

  • But what we have seen is a pretty rational competitive set, if you will, when you look at it.

  • Definitely much more rational than it was in fourth quarter of 2013.

  • But there is pockets here and there we see depending on the format that we see out there that -- there are some competitors that may get a little hotter than others.

  • But we are committed to ensuring that we drive units and that we look at our share very, very intently each and every week to ensure that we are staying very competitive.

  • But I think the biggest thing to take away is we are squarely EDLP focused, so Every Day Low Price focused in everything we do.

  • Dan Binder - Analyst

  • Great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Meredith Adler, Barclays.

  • Meredith Adler - Analyst

  • Good morning, and lots of luck to you, David.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Thanks, Meredith.

  • Meredith Adler - Analyst

  • I have got a couple of questions.

  • When David was talking about the things that would drive the operating margin, he didn't specifically mention higher sales of discretionary items, even though I know that your apparel and home business is doing well.

  • But do you see as the customer feels better that there is the potential to drive more high-margin sales?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • I think the answer to that is yes.

  • We have worked really, really hard on the non-consumable side, Meredith.

  • And I have to be honest, it took us a little longer to get there than we wanted.

  • But I tell you what, the team that Todd and David assembled down there are really clicking now.

  • And what is really encouraging about the non-consumable side is the rate of sell through and we are seeing a much larger -- a much higher sell through on those goods, which, to your point, brings up the incremental margin, helps us with the incremental margin.

  • Meredith Adler - Analyst

  • Great.

  • And then I guess my other question is maybe just a little more technical for David.

  • But you continue to invest capital in stores that you are building yourselves and I'm sure the economics of that are attractive.

  • But I am wondering whether there is an opportunity to do sale lease backs -- rates are low.

  • And then, if you were to do that -- first, I don't know, maybe you could tell us how much -- how many stores you own at this point and whether you could generate incremental capital that could be invested or given back to shareholders.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, and of course, last year we did do sale lease back and we used those proceeds to buy back stock.

  • So it is something we will definitely take a look at, it is always -- we don't have any plans right now to do it.

  • It is always on the radar screen and certainly it is something that we will take a hard look at.

  • And then the how many owned stores we have.

  • Yes, we have between 500 and 600 owned stores right now.

  • Mary Winn Pilkington - VP of IR & PR

  • Yes, about 5%.

  • Meredith Adler - Analyst

  • Okay, that's not that many, okay.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Matthew Boss, JPMorgan.

  • Matthew Boss - Analyst

  • Nice print.

  • Can you help break down the components of your 3% and to 3.5% same-store sales guide?

  • Particularly, I know you guys benefit on the real estate side from the new store waterfall.

  • It sounds like you have a lot of traffic driving initiatives.

  • And then just maybe touch on the expectation for nonfood given the recent acceleration.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • I think Todd wants to take that one.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Yes, when you look at it, we definitely -- from our new store maturation we see 1.5 to 2 percentage points of comp.

  • Of course category management plays a big piece in our comp as well, so between category management and execution at a store level, we really make up the balance piece of that.

  • But affordability continues to be a key focus of ours to continue to drive the sales, as well as our focus on private brands.

  • And then lastly, you heard we are doing a lot of remodels.

  • We did a lot last year and we continue to do those in 2015.

  • And updating that base out there of existing stores really makes a difference as we start to look at these remodels and adding to the comp.

  • So when you put it all together we feel pretty good about that 3% to 3.5% comp range.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • I would piggyback on that Matt, and Todd did a great job of talking about it.

  • But his work on the affordability issue, the fact that over 75% of our SKUs in sales now are targeted between $1.00 and $5.00, that has a lot of broad appeal across a lot of income [strata's].

  • And we are continuing to work on that very hard and see upside on that initiative into 2015 and beyond to be honest about it.

  • Matthew Boss - Analyst

  • Great.

  • And then on the stores front, Rick, can you just elaborate on the return profile and the payback period on new stores?

  • And any changes you guys have seen in productivity levels at some of your more recent openings?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, I will.

  • Our stores still open up at about 85% of our average store volume.

  • 99% of our stores continue to be four wall EBITDA positive.

  • And the payback is roughly a year, year and a half, in that window.

  • Matthew Boss - Analyst

  • Wow, nice quarter.

  • Best of luck.

  • Operator

  • Dan Wewer, Raymond James.

  • Dan Wewer - Analyst

  • Well, we hate to see all you young guys retiring from the Company.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Actually, I was waiting for someone to say I have been carrying David Tehle for 11 years (laughter).

  • Dan Wewer - Analyst

  • I just wanted to ask on the stepped up expansion rate in 2016 if you could talk about the type of real estate projects, particularly in terms of geography, that you will be pursuing that you would have perhaps passed on a year ago.

  • And thinking specifically when you think about suburban, urban and rural markets, if we are going to see a change in the pace as you open in those three types of geographies.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • I think Todd has got a thought on that, Dan.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Yes, Dan, as Rick said earlier, it is going to be broad-based across everywhere we are actually already operating stores in.

  • We continue to look at all the areas that we operate in.

  • California continues to be an opportunity for us.

  • We know that someday there will be over 1,100 to 1,200 stores in California, so that continues to be an opportunity.

  • But when you look at it in 2016, our balance between metro and rural is going to be about where it has been over the course of the last few years.

  • And then as we go into outer years we will continue to leverage our learnings that we have got moving through on our metro stores and be able to open up more of those as we move into 2017, 2018 and 2019.

  • Dan Wewer - Analyst

  • How would you -- go ahead, I'm sorry.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • If I could piggyback that on, Dan.

  • As we move further and further deeper into the 13,000 we are going to produce more and more metro stores.

  • And the team is looking at lots of different alternatives there in terms of the size of the box.

  • We've actually been -- I think we have really done a great job on the mix that is in the stores.

  • I do think that we have figured something out that we are going to test in 2015 that could really guide us -- really help generate incremental returns in the metro.

  • Dan Wewer - Analyst

  • When you say metro stores, I am assuming you are including suburban with urban.

  • I was curious, how would you characterize Dollar General's success in suburban markets which might have higher income levels than the Company has targeted historically?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, I -- go ahead, Todd (multiple speakers).

  • No you go ahead, Todd.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Yes, so when you look at it, our suburban stores -- we are happy with the performance of those stores.

  • But as Rick indicated, we are testing some things both in suburban and metro that we really feel can benefit us as we move through 2015 and beyond both from a labor perspective and a merchandising perspective with our technology that we have got moving in merch to ensure we have the right mix of products as well as the right gross margin that is generated from that.

  • So we feel pretty good about where we are, but there is always more learnings yet.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • I think it is fair to say that we are getting sophisticated enough now where we are able to alter the mix.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • That's right.

  • Dan Wewer - Analyst

  • Great, thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Scott Mushkin, Wolfe Research.

  • Scott Mushkin - Analyst

  • And, David, everyone saying congratulations.

  • I have got to say maybe I am just a little envious.

  • I have teenage kids at home, so I guess it would be nice to spend a lot more time with them.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you very much.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • I don't know, Scott, I raised two kids.

  • I don't know if being home when they are teenagers is a good thing or not (laughter).

  • Scott Mushkin - Analyst

  • Anyway, so I guess I wanted to get to labor, labor costs, what you are thinking as we look through the year.

  • Obviously a competitor raised their labor rates, but with labor markets getting pretty tight and how that affects your business -- what you are seeing in store manager turnover?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, I will take that one and then, Todd, if you want to lay any color on it that would be fine.

  • I know we are talking a lot about the minimum wage thing and what has happened with one of the larger big-box operators there.

  • A couple of things I would like to lay out, Scott.

  • Number one is we don't have a single full-time employee that is making minimum wage, not one.

  • About 12% of our employees, all part-time, are at the minimum wage rate.

  • But the fascinating thing is the way over structure is in a store, after about five months they are in a position to be promoted to what we call is a key carrier.

  • And our average key carrier makes $9.00 an hour, approximately $9.00 an hour.

  • So it is pretty safe to say that we our whole workforce is not making minimum wage, and there is some sort of grand or fearful expense that is going to be there.

  • And when I'm talking about minimum wage, I am obviously talking about the federal minimum wage.

  • What we are going to do, though, I think it is fair to say the labor market conceivably is tightening up.

  • We are going to keep our eyes, we're going to continue to monitor the landscape, and we will assess or make any adjustments that we need to make.

  • But right now, in terms of what we are paying our people, we feel pretty comfortable that we are there.

  • Our store manager turnover, quite frankly, is operating where it has been for a period of time.

  • We are looking at it in terms of -- we look at it, excuse me, in terms of voluntary turnover and involuntary turnover.

  • And obviously, there is a big difference between the two.

  • When you add those two up, our turnover is around approximately 30%, which is a little high, quite frankly, for retail.

  • I would like to see that number down in the mid to low 20%s.

  • But also, I would tell you that our turnover has been improving over the course of the last six, seven months, and it is continuing to move in a solid direction.

  • Scott Mushkin - Analyst

  • All right, that is perfect.

  • And if I could just follow up one, and maybe -- I know this transition going on with the leadership and everything, so maybe it is too strategic.

  • But obviously you went for Family Dollar; it didn't work out.

  • When you think about acquisitions or you think about capital deployment, is acquisitions part of what you consider or is it really not?

  • Is it kind of one unique situation and not something we'd look at.

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • You know, a very fair question.

  • And I will tell you, Scott, David and I have always looked at everything.

  • So the answer is nothing is ever off the table.

  • We want to look and we want to understand what we can do to maximize value for our shareholders.

  • And if that opportunity raises itself down the road, I am sure that the management team is going to want to look at it.

  • Scott Mushkin - Analyst

  • All right, perfect, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Matt Nemer, Wells Fargo Securities.

  • Matt Nemer - Analyst

  • David, I will add my congrats as well.

  • I have actually got one question on the quarter which is, I would love a little bit of color on the seasonal business.

  • It looks like sales per foot were down about 1%, the two-year stack was down about 6%.

  • Is some of that related to the port or are there some other issues there?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Todd, go ahead.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Yes, Matt, this is Todd.

  • So when you look at our seasonal business, first I want to say it is very healthy.

  • Now when you back down and take a look at the components, the majority of the components are doing very well.

  • The one structural piece that we as well as probably other retailers are fighting and battling every day is the toy business.

  • The toy business is embedded in our seasonal business and structurally, as we all know, that business has been very, very tough over the past few years with electronics and computers and video games and everything else being much more prominent to kids these days than the toys.

  • But we are very happy when you look at seasonal.

  • The team has done a tremendous amount of work on affordability within seasonal.

  • We had about 26% last year more $1.00 items then we had the year before.

  • I can tell you they were squarely focused on the buy this year which is now complete for holiday of 2015.

  • And that number has been stepped up even more.

  • But our sweet spot, as we said before, is really $1.00 to $5.00, but in seasonal $1.00 to $3.00 is really where we play and we do very well in.

  • Matt Nemer - Analyst

  • Great, that is helpful.

  • And then secondly, I was looking to see if we could get some more color on the labor model that Todd mentioned, the new labor model.

  • Is the primary goal to speed up checkout or is it more about maintaining the store?

  • I would love to get some more color on that and also whether that would be baked in the guidance if you decide to roll it out more broadly this year?

  • Thanks.

  • Todd Vasos - COO

  • Yes, Matt, thanks for letting me answer that one.

  • I could tell you that the labor model that we have currently existing in our stores, we look at it each and every day to make sure that in fact it is the right model.

  • Now what we have seen is that in certain geographic areas, we can spend a little bit more time inside of our stores stocking and ensuring the customer experience is at the highest level that it possibly can.

  • So what we have done is strategically have taken a group of stores on a test and tested that theory.

  • It tested out very well and we are in the process as we roll through 2015 to roll that test broadly out to a large group of our stores over 2015.

  • Once again, it is very targeted to certain stores, but it is a large group of our stores.

  • Matt Nemer - Analyst

  • Great, thanks and congrats.

  • Mary Winn Pilkington - VP of IR & PR

  • Thanks.

  • Operator, we will move on to the next question, please.

  • It looks like we've got time for -- it looks like we might have time for one more question.

  • Operator

  • Scot Ciccarelli, RBC Capital Markets.

  • Scot Ciccarelli - Analyst

  • Good morning, guys, thanks for the clean up here.

  • During the conference call I think it was you, Rick, that mentioned you do anticipate changes in the competitive landscape and obviously Todd just talked about some of the changes on the labor model.

  • Can you provide some color regarding what kind of changes you are expecting?

  • And is this just on the pending -- any pending changes with Family Dollar now that it is going to be in new hands or are there other elements that you were referencing?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, fair question, Scot.

  • I think that obviously the number one thing on our radar screen is the change that has taken place between Dollar Tree and Family Dollar.

  • Once again the big box guys are now announcing more initiatives and what we are trying to do is just stay focused on absolutely everything that is out there.

  • Now while we can only control what we can control, we have a -- the beauty of our model is it takes a little bit from a lot of different spots rather than having to grab everything from one spot.

  • So consequently we stay focused on what absolutely everybody is doing.

  • And, yes, if I -- I didn't mean to send any unjust or unneeded fear or anything.

  • But we are staying very focused on what everybody is doing.

  • There is a lot of moving parts out there right now.

  • Scot Ciccarelli - Analyst

  • So just the general expectation that it is going to be a dynamic competitive environment?

  • Rick Dreiling - CEO & Chairman

  • Yes, just the fact that there is a lot of new faces managing new assets, right.

  • Scot Ciccarelli - Analyst

  • Yes, okay, fair enough.

  • And then my follow up is, I guess, David, you talked a little bit about the EBIT margin opportunity down the road.

  • Can you provide a little bit more color why you are expecting EBIT margins then to be flat to down this year versus what frankly seems to be a bit of an easy comparison following four straight years of kind of 10% plus EBIT margins?

  • Is it some of it that is labor investment or is it just the continued mix shift on impact on the gross margin, etc.?

  • Thanks.

  • David Tehle - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, the biggest piece is clearly the labor investment that we are making in our SG&A line and that really is the bulk of the story there.

  • Again, we expect better performance than we saw in 2013 and 2014 on the gross margin given some of the product category headwinds we had from tobacco in those years cycling over that.

  • And then I mentioned we continue to like what we are seeing in shrink, getting some improvement there and then category management and foreign sourcing helping us.

  • But it is the investment in labor that we are making.

  • Scot Ciccarelli - Analyst

  • Okay, got it.

  • Thanks a lot, guys.

  • Mary Winn Pilkington - VP of IR & PR

  • All right.

  • I think that will conclude our call today.

  • We have a new member of our IR team in Matt Hancock, and I know some of you have had a chance to meet Matt.

  • If you haven't had a chance to meet him I look forward to introducing you to him.

  • And we will be around today for calls.

  • I know we've left some people in the queue, so please feel free to give me a call.

  • And thank you.

  • Operator, that will now conclude our call.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the conference call for today.

  • We thank you for your participation and ask that you would please disconnect all lines.